Favorite Avengers Villain

[Sir_Hawkeye]

Name your 5 favorite Avengers Villains:

1. Red Skull
2. Kang
3. Dr. Doom
4. Masters OF EVil
5. LEgion Of Unliving

[Neolucifer]

Dr doom
Red Skull
Loki
Kang
Wanda ( joke :D )
Masters of evil

[Super Villains INC>]

off the top of my head, i'd go with

Kang
Ultron
Masters of Evil
Wrecking Crew (ok, they are pretty lame guys, but I just like to see them wreck stuff)
Korvac

[DDM]

Kang, Immortus, Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurian
The Masters of Evil
Morgan Le Faye
Ultron
The Supreme Intelligence

Runners Up:

Count Nefaria
The Zodiac
The U-Foes
Korvac
The Grim Reaper

[Karl J. Barnes]

Korvac

Kang

Masters of Evil

Ultron

Graviton, the first Avengers comic that I read was his debut.

[1HELLBOY]

Ultron
Kang
Masters of Evil
Red Skull
Dr. Doom

[Hulkamaniac]

i'd have to say:

Kang
Dr.Doom
ultron
masters of evil
Red skull

and a special shout out to AIM, you my boys yo :D

[Gaz]

off the top of my head, i'd go with

Kang
Ultron
Masters of Evil
Wrecking Crew (ok, they are pretty lame guys, but I just like to see them wreck stuff)
Korvac
The Crew are only used to push a new team's strength now.

[Brian R]

I dont know if I would consider Doom an Avengers villain really, but I will include him on my list anyway. :)


Ultron
Kang the Conquerer
Dr. Doom
Red Skull
Count Nefaria

[Sean Whitmore]

Now you mention it, I don't really like many Avengers villains. Huh.

1. Nefaria
2. Graviton
3. Ultron
4. Baron Zemo
5. Kang

I also like seeing them fight the Squadron Supreme during their many, many mind-controlled periods. :)


SEAN

[comic_lover]

5 favorite Avengers Villains:

1. Masters of Evil
2. Kang
3. Ultron
4. The Grim Reaper
5. Korvac

BTW guys,The Red Skull is primarily a Captain America villian than an actual Avengers villain.

[Brian R]

BTW guys,The Red Skull is primarily a Captain America villian than an actual Avengers villain.

Yeah, but there is such a lack of quality Avengers villains. :(

[comic_lover]

Yeah, but there is such a lack of quality Avengers villains. :( Huh ? Is that a joke ? There are good villains that haven't even been mentioned....like : The Skrulls,The Space Phantom(s),Akron,Hydra,Thanos,Attuma,The Purple Man,Loki,The Collector,Terminus,The Enchantress,Mephisto,The Dire Wraiths,The Grandmaster,Terrax,The Super Skrull,Maelstorm,The Magus,The Absorbing Man,Egghead,Klaw,The Radioactive Man,The Taskmaster,Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle,Tiger Shark,Melter,Man-Killer,Whirlwind,Magneto,Speed Demon ( as Thw Whizzer ).......and many more I could name.

[Brian R]

Huh ? Is that a joke ? There are good villains that haven't even been mentioned....like : The Skrulls,The Space Phantom(s),Akron,Hydra,Thanos,Attuma,The Purple Man,Loki,The Collector,Terminus,The Enchantress,Mephisto,The Dire Wraiths,The Grandmaster,Terrax,The Super Skrull,Maelstorm,The Magus,The Absorbing Man,Egghead,Klaw,The Radioactive Man,The Taskmaster,Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle,Tiger Shark,Melter,Man-Killer,Whirlwind,Magneto,Speed Demon ( as Thw Whizzer ).......and many more I could name.

Im sorry, but there are many characters on that list that I would consider sub-par, and also quite a few that I wouldnt count as being Avengers villains any more than Red Skull.

[comic_lover]

Im sorry, but there are many characters on that list that I would consider sub-par, and also quite a few that I wouldnt count as being Avengers villains any more than Red Skull.Sub par ? Don't count as villains ? Apparently you don't have the books those villains appeared in...but I do.Don't force me to look up the appearances too ! ;)

[Red State Cap]

Korvac
Ultron
These guys pretty much shredded the Avengers in some of the best issues ever, #176-177 and #201-202.
There really aren't any others close in my opinion, though perhaps I might include Baron Zemo.

RSC

[Phrozen]

1. Baron Zemo II
2. Ultron
3. Kang
4. Morgan Le Fay

[Gaz]

Im sorry, but there are many characters on that list that I would consider sub-par, and also quite a few that I wouldnt count as being Avengers villains any more than Red Skull.
Agree, Purple Man might end up an NA villain but he's more a Spidey/DD or even Jessica Jones villain more than Avengers, for one.

[Brian R]

Sub par ? Don't count as villains ? Apparently you don't have the books those villains appeared in...but I do.Don't force me to look up the appearances too ! ;)

People I find sub-par:
The Space Phantom, Akron, Attuma, The Dire Wraiths, Egghead, Klaw,The Radioactive Man, Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle, Tiger Shark, Melter, Man-Killer, Whirlwind, Speed Demon.

People I dont consider AVENGERS villains:
Thanos, Magneto, Terrax, Taskmaster, Mephisto.

Those are MY opinions.

[Gaz]

People I find sub-par:
The Space Phantom, Akron, Attuma, The Dire Wraiths, Egghead, Klaw,The Radioactive Man, Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle, Tiger Shark, Melter, Man-Killer, Whirlwind, Speed Demon.

People I dont consider AVENGERS villains:
Thanos, Magneto, Terrax, Taskmaster, Mephisto.

Those are MY opinions.
Hell,two of those aren't villains now.

[Brian R]

Hell,two of those aren't villains now.

Mags will always be a villain to me. I dont care what the stupid x-writers are doing at the moment. He isnt an EVIL person, but he is a villain.

[comic_lover]

People I find sub-par:
The Space Phantom, Akron, Attuma, The Dire Wraiths, Egghead, Klaw,The Radioactive Man, Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle, Tiger Shark, Melter, Man-Killer, Whirlwind, Speed Demon.

People I dont consider AVENGERS villains:
Thanos, Magneto, Terrax, Taskmaster, Mephisto.

Those are MY opinions.Take some time and look it up.They ALL were villains that fought The Avengers at one time or another.The ones you find " sub par " were actually in groups like The Masters of Evil when they fought the Avengers.Hell,Attuma fought the Avengers in " Atlantis Attacks " as well as a host of other Marvel heroes...People you don't consider villains,like Magneto,have fought against them in the past....especially Thanos,who wiped out the whole damn universe.Read The Infinity Gauntlet series when you get the chance.Taskmaster fought and continues to fight the Avengers,he trains most of the thugs the major baddies hire.He fought Hawkeye and Ant-Man as well as trained U.S. Agent....do some research.Just because you don't think of them as qualifying as Avengers villians doesn't mean they weren't at one time or another.

[Brian R]

Take some time and look it up.They [ALL were villains that fought The Avengers at one time or another.The ones you find " sub par " were actually in groups like The Masters of Evil when they fought the Avengers.Hell,Attuma fought the Avengers in " Atlantis Attacks " as well as a host of other Marvel heroes...People you don't consider villains,like Magneto,have fought against them in the past....especially Thanos,who wiped out the whole damn universe.Read The Infinity Gauntlet series when you get the chance.Taskmaster fought and continues to fight the Avengers,he trains most of the thugs the major baddies hire.He fought Hawkeye and Ant-Man as well as trained U.S. Agent....do some research.Just because you don't think of them as qualifying as Avengers villians doesn't mean they weren't at one time or another.

I have read IG, its just that to me, thats not an Avengers story so much as a Marvel story, you know? To me, fighting the Avengers once or twice doesnt make you an Avengers villain, even though technically you would be. Do you get what I am saying?

Same for Magneto, sure he has fought them, but how many people would actually list him as an Avengers villain?

[Gaz]

Mags will always be a villain to me. I dont care what the stupid x-writers are doing at the moment. He isnt an EVIL person, but he is a villain.
I meant Speed Demon and the Radioactive Man.

[Brian R]

I meant Speed Demon and the Radioactive Man.

LOL :D Sorry about that, I assumed you meant Thanos and Magneto.

[Gaz]

LOL :D Sorry about that, I assumed you meant Thanos and Magneto.
They're anti heroes. Wheras the two I mentioned are T-Bolts.

[Moses]

1. Baron Zemo
2. Kang
3. Ultron
4. Super-Skrull
5. Loki

[Ned Leeds]

Kang
Ultron
Baron Zemo
Immortus
Skrulls

[kingpin51]

kang
masters of evil
zemo
count nefaria
bendis

[SybaritaCybernetico]

Am I the only one who doesn't really consider Morgan LE Fay an Avengers villain?
In spite of tha fact that both Perez and Austen made her face off with them?
I have always seen her as a Spider-Woman villain, but that's just me.
My faves are:

Ultron
Kang
Nefaria
Immortus
Zemo

[Mister Mets]

1. Ultron
2. Masters of Evil
3. Korvac
4. Kang
5. Taskmaster (first appeared in an Avengers story)

[AlanScott606]

1. Ultron
2. Kang
3. Masters of Evil
4. Korvac
5 Baron Zemo

[Jessica Drew]

Okay. The real deal...Who's your favorite? Realize, now, that I only had ten options, so I apologize if I left off your favorite.

[cosmicspidey]

Ultron's really the only big Avengers villain who stays Avengers-centric. Kang goes to FF, Zemo goes to T-Bolts, Loki goes to Thor...that's why Ultron gets my vote.

[Red State Cap]

Sorry Jessica, but where the hell is Korvac? This is kind of like leaving the Red Skull off a poll of Captain America's greatest enemies.
I voted for "other" as you might guess.

RSC

[The Shadow]

I went with Nefaria

He's always a badass (even though he gets his ass handed to him) and I always enjoy his appearances. And I'm sick of Kang and Ultron.

[Jessica Drew]

Sorry Jessica, but where the hell is Korvac? This is kind of like leaving the Red Skull off a poll of Captain America's greatest enemies.
I voted for "other" as you might guess.

RSC

Well, I thought about putting Korvac on the list, but decided not to because--although his arc was great--his appearances are--if I'm correct--in that one arc only. If I had more than ten slots, he--as well as the Zodiac, Thanos, Graviton, and others--would have been in the poll.

[Tragix]

1) Kang
2) Ultron
3) Thanos
4) Grim Reaper
5) Loki

[Dark Soul # 7]

I voted for The Masters of Evil because I always love when supervillains team up against superhero teams, it makes for great free for all battles.
And come on their name is the MASTERS OF EVIL! :D

Second is Ultron and third is Nefaria.

[BobC]

I like the Masters of Evil but I'd like to see The Lion God come back. He promised he'd return waaaaay back in 1973, but so far that lying hagfish hasn't shown his maned face. Maybe we can lure him from that other dimension with some Little Friskies...

[jcp011c]

Could it be anyone besides Ultron or Kang? And that was a tough choice. As villains they've been long standing, had personal reasons for making the Avengers their enemies, and have come closer to defeating the Avengers more so than most.
So really I'll say it's a tie. With Grim Reaper or Nefaria sharing the bronze.
....

Why wasn't Brian Michael Bendis on the list? :confused:

[tricksterpup]

There is only one Villain worthy..
Dr. Doom.

[Neolucifer]

Doom Shall Reign Suprem !!!

[Economist]

My rankings

1)Doom -Why should he be mainly FF villian. Also works well as a foil for Iron Man, Thor, and Cap.
2)Hulk -Who doesn't love Hulk vs Thor/Iron Man fights?
3)Kang - Cool villian, but time travel stories suck unless you have a good writer.
4)Ultron

[Nightcrawler]

Ultron, man.

[Babylon23]

There's nothing I love more than villains teaming up to beat on the heroes. The Masters of Evil get my vote.

I second BobC's Lion God vote. Where has he been hiding all this time?

Another favourite is the Zodiac. Whatever happened to those guys?

[jcp011c]

Another favourite is the Zodiac. Whatever happened to those guys?


The Zodiac was very cool. Particularly in the last storyline they were in with the Scorpio playing it alone against the Avengers. Seemed like the writer had intended them to be recurring villains, but alas....doubtful that would EVER happen now.

[Red State Cap]

Well, I thought about putting Korvac on the list, but decided not to because--although his arc was great--his appearances are--if I'm correct--in that one arc only. If I had more than ten slots, he--as well as the Zodiac, Thanos, Graviton, and others--would have been in the poll.
Admittedly it was only the one arc, but many Avengers fans consider it to be the single greatest arc, and greatest villain in Avengers history.
The Grim Reaper? The Thunderbolts? GYRICH? Over Korvac? Come on!

RSC

[ghostrider666]

I just really dig when the Avengers go up against Ultron.

[Mister Mets]

Zemo, and the MAsters of Evil. They're also the Thunderbolts, and a logical enemy for a heroic superteam.

Kang, and Ultron should be members of the Masters of Evil.

[Shellhead]

I haven't voted yet. I think that these are good selections, but I am starting to realize that I am currently bored with the villains that the Avengers have fought on so many occasions.

Kang was cool, but after the Celestial Madonna storyline, that crosstime council of Kangs, Avengers Forever, and then the recent war with Kang, I am sick of him.

Ultron was great, despite a couple of weak stories in West Coast Avengers, but that Ultron Unleashed epic from Busiek/Perez was so excellent that nobody will be able to tell a better Ultron story for years.

Zemo got overexposed, and should stay put with Thunderbolts for a while. Without Zemo, the Masters of Evil are disorganized super-goons... give them a new leader and they could be interesting.

Nefaria still has some potential, but needs more personality.

Graviton is powerful but has a cardboard personality. Someday a decent writer might tell us an interesting story with him in it.

Grim Reaper is too weak to fight the Avengers without a gimmick.

Thanos is too powerful and disinterested to really qualify as an Avengers villain. In fact, Thanos hasn't really been a villain for about 15 years now.

While I would like to see Loki battle the Avengers, he has been blatantly overused in Thor's title for decades.

Korvac appeared in just three stories... the big Korvac story in Avengers, preceded by his first appearance in Giant-Size Defenders #3 (he fought a tech vs magic duel with Dr. Strange) and Thor Annual #6, against Thor and the Guardians of the Galaxy. Good stories, but he's gone for good.

I guess my choice is Zodiac. It's true that they were a silver age theme team that didn't make sense as opponents for the Avengers. Most of them were just human criminals wearing odd costumes, but they could take hits from heroes like Iron Man, Thor and Vision and then bounce back up in a few panels, without any explanation or reference to that amazing durability. A new Zodiac with superhuman powers would be great, ideally more durable than the android/LMD Zodiac that was destroyed in the pages of Weapon-X.

With a nod to Babylon23 in this thread, maybe we could see the Lion God come back and grant supernatural power to van Lunt's Zodiac, or else work in something with this new Scorpio and that mystic Key.

[mandog]

Of all the mighty Avengers villains who is your favorite?

[Exodus]

Kang.

He always seemed like the most powerfull pure Avengers Villain in their roster.

Thou Ultron was kinda cool in some of his incarnations as well.

-Exodus

[Dark Soul # 7]

Ultron as he was in Ultron Unlimited and the Masters of Evil.

[Evil-Spidey]

1-ultron
2-grim reaper
3-count nefaria
4-kang
5-zemo's masters of evil

[nanteen]

1. Ultron
2. Kang
3. Masters of Evil (lead by Baron Zemo)
4. Hulk
5. Bendis

[Linguini]

The Sentry

[NathanielEssex]

Ultron!
Kang, Grim Reaper, and the Masters are all very cool, but Ultron is my favorite of them all. Kang seems too close to Dr. Doom in terms of villain niche for him to be my absolute favorite. Still love Kang, though!

[Doom Hammer]

1. Ultron
2. Kang
3. Masters of Evil (lead by Baron Zemo)
4. Hulk
5. Bendis

Bendis is number one, AND you know it.

[Tragix]

Kang The Conqueror

Count Nefaria

Ultron

The Collectors

[Babylon23]

The Masters of Evil. I love big hero team vs. big villain team battles.

[Will.S]

Definitely Ultron. Kang would be 2nd place after him.

[Tony Starkz]

Masters of Evil 3 or 4(the one led by Zemo in the siege)
Kang

[da_real_yellowjacket]

1 :: ultron
2 :: kang
3 :: squadron supreme/sinister

[Doom Hammer]

Savage Land Mutates.

...what?

[Young Avenger]

Ultron is my favorite Avengers villain. With Kang being second.

[annihilator]

Masters of Evil with Zemo

[LordEd1976]

The Avengers have so many great villains I can't pick just one.

Masters of Evil (1st group and the huge armada created by Helmut Zemo)

Grim Reaper

Ultron (especially in Ultron Unlimited)

Kang (especially in Celestial Madonna)

Supreme Intelligence

The Legion of the Unliving

Korvac

I could do a Bendis joke here but there's two things stopping me. One; he'd be on my list of LEAST favorite villains. And two; it would too easy to put him in a villains list. I like to challenge myself and putting him in a list of great Avengers villains would too obivious. I'd feel guilty afterwards for taking such an easy shot.

[meethraa]

Favorite villains: Ultron; Jocasta and Taskmaster for their ambiguity.
Least favorite villains: Some "fans"; closet completists.

[DDM]

Kang
Immortus
Ultron
Morgan Le Faye
Grandmaster
Count Nefaria
Michael Korvac
Loki
Masters of Evil

[GreenHornet]

My vote is for Taskmaster

not all powerful but still fun when he is around
also I like the Hydra-clones

[Manchine]

1) Kang, easily one of the favorites.

2) Grandmaster, one of the few characters that have affected so much of the Avengers history.

3) Masters of Evil, Baron Zemo is the man.

4) Ultron, a robot bent on destroying all biological life. What is there not to like.

[CyberCoyote]

BMB! He's done more damage to 'em than any other :)

Kang is a classic, he's gone up against everyone (who hasn't), but his is the kind of villainy that really makes the Avengers do and be what they are supposed to be, Earth's Mightiest banding together to stop threats no other single champion can overcome.

Then again there are Ninjas (okay, I'll stop..)

[Ravenheart]

Ultron is my favorite Avengers villain.Probably because he was the villain in the first issue of Avengers I ever got :D

[Phrozen]

The Collector
Ultron
Kang
The Masters of Evil

[Ivan Isaacs]

Michael Korvac.

One of the few Avengers villains I can stand (I hate Ultron and especially Kang. Those are villains that should NEVER be used again. NEVER!).

[Dark Soul # 7]

One of the few Avengers villains I can stand (I hate Ultron and especially Kang. Those are villains that should NEVER be used again. NEVER!).Really, why? I´m actually curious. Why do you hate them?

[Will.S]

Really, why? I´m actually curious. Why do you hate them?
Cuz Ivan is quirky like that.

[DOOM2099]

Kang.

He always seemed like the most powerfull pure Avengers Villain in their roster.


-Exodus

Kang totally pwns. The whole premise is just perfect. He can pull anything out and just say ''Oh, they sell these at every corner 7-11 in the 30th century... Right by the slurpee machine'', and it makes sense. I mean, what the hell do you know about 30th century convenience stores?

[Syzygy]

Kang seems too close to Dr. Doom in terms of villain niche for him to be my absolute favorite. Still love Kang, though!

I always thought this myself until the Avengers Forever graphic novel, which really fleshed the character out. This is how I see them as different:

Doom is much more cultured, intellectual, and aristocratic than Kang. Doom would rather catch heroes like flies in a web. He views himself as a master plotter, and would rather win a victory of mind than brawn. He is a scientist, an inventor, a scholar, and an occultist. Doom lives primarily in his head.

Kang strikes me as much more of a barbarian. He reminds me of Ares and Apocalypse, somewhat, in that a great part of him is this overwhelming physical lust for battle. Yes, her puts on refined airs, and yes, he uses high tech, but that's not really him. He's the guy that wants to rip off your head and spit down your neck. Kang lives primarily in his body.

Doom is driven to conquer the world because his ego is so huge, he simply can't tolerate the thought of anybody being above him.

Kang is driven to conquer worlds because he likes the feeling he gets when his boot is stomping on someone's face.

Here's my list:

1. Kang
2. Taskmaster
3. Scarlet Witch
4. Immortus
5. Loki

Peace,
Syzygy

[Herald of Asgard]

The Wrecking Crew
Masters of Evil (Zemo)
Ultron
Grim Reaper
Kang

[NathanielEssex]

I always thought this myself until the Avengers Forever graphic novel, which really fleshed the character out. This is how I see them as different:

Doom is much more cultured, intellectual, and aristocratic than Kang. Doom would rather catch heroes like flies in a web. He views himself as a master plotter, and would rather win a victory of mind than brawn. He is a scientist, an inventor, a scholar, and an occultist. Doom lives primarily in his head.

Kang strikes me as much more of a barbarian. He reminds me of Ares and Apocalypse, somewhat, in that a great part of him is this overwhelming physical lust for battle. Yes, her puts on refined airs, and yes, he uses high tech, but that's not really him. He's the guy that wants to rip off your head and spit down your neck. Kang lives primarily in his body.

Doom is driven to conquer the world because his ego is so huge, he simply can't tolerate the thought of anybody being above him.

Kang is driven to conquer worlds because he likes the feeling he gets when his boot is stomping on someone's face.

Here's my list:

1. Kang
2. Taskmaster
3. Scarlet Witch
4. Immortus
5. Loki

Peace,
Syzygy


Well, you've got me convinced. I still like Ultron more, because he's so different than any character not named Brainiac (and he's way cooler than Brainiac), but Kang is more of a warrior than Doom. Doom still has his warrior aspects, but it's is more pronounced with Kang. Kang is Genghis Khan, Doom is more like Hitler or Stalin. And Avengers Forever made me a fan, too!

[hoffmandu]

1. Loki - gotta give him props, he's the reason why they exist (uhm, fictionally)

2. Zemo (either one)- he rules and is underused.

3. Wrecking Crew- for how powerful these guys are they sure don't get much airplay.

As far as the New Avengers are concerned, I dig 'em. Give me a break, Jack of hearts was a member? I don't mind hawkeye getting whacked, he was cool, but whattaya gonna do. Vison? Expendable martian manhunter clone. She-hulk? Awesome to see her Hulk out.
I like the new group. Spidey? Come on, everyone likes Spidey. Cage? Awesome addition and written well. Sentry? Meh, not sure what to think just yet. Spider Woman? Cool to see her again and also written well. Ronin? Very lame that it's Sonar or whatever the f^%$ her name is, should have been DD, Iron Fist or Shang.
Personally, I think the biggest problem with the new series is the villians thus far. Give me Doom. Give me Loki. Give me.....uhm Arcade or somebody other than this Onslaught wannabe.

[Haunt]

1. Loki

2. Zemo

3. Kang

[Dustin]

1. Red Skull
2. Prince Namor a.k.a Sub-Mariner
3. Kang
4. Bendis
5. Masters of Evil

[Kirk G]

1. Red Skull
2. Prince Namor a.k.a Sub-Mariner
3. Kang
4. Bendis OUCH! THAT'S MEAN....:(
5. Masters of Evil
.................

[Haunt]

Director Hizzle
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[Smarty Jones]

I don't know if it's unreasonable to consider Thanos an Avengers villain. Even before The Infinity Gauntlet, he had two classic battles with The Avengers (which also included the likes of Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock, The Thing and Spider-Man helping them) that included the fate of the Marvel Universe.

Also, given the nature of members like Captain America, Iron Man and Thor, their enemies tend to flow over into The Avengers' affairs. The Avengers were founded fighting Loki, a character whom the team rarely faced in battle in subsequent years -- is he an Avengers villain or not? The Red Skull and Baron Zemo also have crossed swords with The Avengers, as well as The Mandarin. Count Nefaria spent most of his years as an Iron Man foe, and most people consider Nefaria an Avengers foe.

[Haunt]

I don't know if it's unreasonable to consider Thanos an Avengers villain. Even before The Infinity Gauntlet, he had two classic battles with The Avengers (which also included the likes of Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock, The Thing and Spider-Man helping them) that included the fate of the Marvel Universe.

Also, given the nature of members like Captain America, Iron Man and Thor, their enemies tend to flow over into The Avengers' affairs. The Avengers were founded fighting Loki, a character with whom the team rarely faced in battle in subsequent years -- is he an Avengers villain or not? The Red Skull and Baron Zemo also have crossed swords with The Avengers, as well as The Mandarin. Count Nefaria spent most of his years as an Iron Man foe.

you put Ultron at the top?! he recently got taken out by the Runaways. and, before that, an army of him attacked the Avengers on their home turf and were dispatched in about 2 pages. the Falcon beat one.

[Smarty Jones]

"you put Ultron at the top?! he recently got taken out by the Runaways. and, before that, an army of him attacked the Avengers on their home turf and were dispatched in about 2 pages. the Falcon beat one."

A lot of villains were inexplicably beaten as ridiculous plot devices to make a creator's heroes look stronger. Squirrel Girl has beaten both Doctor Doom and Thanos. Kang the Conqueror was beaten by Young Avengers.

I have no idea what Avengers fight you're referencing here. When Ultron is done correctly, he's one of the deadliest villains in the Marvel Universe.

[Alan2099]

I'd put Ultron and kang as the top 2.

[Haunt]

A lot of villains were inexplicably beaten as ridiculous plot devices to make a creator's heroes look stronger. Squirrel Girl has beaten both Doctor Doom and Thanos. Kang the Conqueror was beaten by Young Avengers.

I have no idea what Avengers fight you're referencing here. When Ultron is done correctly, he's one of the deadliest villains in the Marvel Universe.

Avengers Disassembled; Chaos storyline.

[Dustin]

.................
What is that supposed to mean?

[Babylon23]

1) The Masters of Evil - In all their incarnations. I just love big supervillain teams.

2) Ultron - Made even more poignant by his connection to Hank Pym and the Vision.

3) Kang/Immortus - Since he's technically one person, I've listed these 2 together. I love time travel stories, and I've always been fascinated by this character and his alternates.

4) The Grim Reaper - A great villain with a rather sick but cool motivation.

5) The Zodiac - Another cool villain group. I wish Johns had hung around to complete his Zodiac story.

[brundlefly]

1. The Baron Zemo-led Masters of Evil, circa Under Siege.
2. Kang
3. Ultron
4. Thanos
5. Nefaria

[Jeff-E]

I don't know if my first actually qualifies as an Avengers villian but here goes

1) Thanos... (Real surprise there huh?)
2) Kang the friggin' Conquerer (damm hard to spell words)
3) Masters of Evil any incarnation is great
4) Wrecking Crew (see note on MoE)
5) Ultron
sorry but I have to throw in one more
6) Loki, I always loved it when he was shown as powerfull and manipulative enough to take on the team all on his own or using pawns, where he was the mastermind, and not just Thor's punching bag.

[twilight]

Dead tie for me between Ultron and Kang.

[The Hope and the Slaughter]

Clearly the most prominent foes for the Avengers are Ultron and Kang. I never liked Kang much until Avengers Forever, and Ultron gets the nod from me.

As far as single appearances, Korvac has them all beat.

Love the Masters of Evil. Avengers are overdue to go up against the Masters. Of the last three incarnations, Doc Ock's fought the Guardians of the Galaxy, Zemo's became the Thunderbolts, and Crimson Cowl's fought the Thunderbolts. Its way overdue for the Masters to fight the Avengers

[Will.S]

As far as single appearances, Korvac has them all beat.
Is the Korvac saga ever going to be reprinted anytime soon?

Because I think that has to happen.

[Rev. Calibos]

1) Kang
2) Ultron
3) Thanos
4) Baron Zemo
5) Count Nefaria

[Frank]

The Legion of the Living Dead with Frankenstein, Human Torch and Wonderman!

[Frank]

Michael Korvac.

One of the few Avengers villains I can stand (I hate Ultron and especially Kang. Those are villains that should NEVER be used again. NEVER!).

I never liked The old Avengers villains that's why I like Korvac. When I was a kid he was truly great new modern threat.

Taskmaster is another one like. The quintessential marksman!

[Frank]

People I find sub-par:
The Space Phantom, Akron, Attuma, The Dire Wraiths, Egghead, Klaw,The Radioactive Man, Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle, Tiger Shark, Melter, Man-Killer, Whirlwind, Speed Demon.

People I dont consider AVENGERS villains:
Thanos, Magneto, Terrax, Taskmaster, Mephisto.

Those are MY opinions.

Taskmaster is one of the best Avengers villain of all time. He became well known because of the Avengers. It's all in the books.

[Frank]

Another one I liked was Tyrak(?). An atlantean with these big steel claws and shades. He handed the whole roster their asses.

[Stantheman23]

I have always liked Grim Reaper, Ultron and Kang

[Sabrinaset]

The Super-Adaptoid!

There ... I said it!

[The Hope and the Slaughter]

Is the Korvac saga ever going to be reprinted anytime soon?

Because I think that has to happen.

It's been in TPB form twice that I know of. I kinda liked the little epilogue in the first one.

[bubbalee33]

1. Ultron
2. Korvac
3. The Masters OF Evil
4. Kang
5. Loki

[bubbalee33]

1. Ultron
2. Korvac
3. The Masters OF Evil
4. Kang
5. Loki

[Lou25]

Wow, I'm kind of amazed that Kang is winning. His last real appearance, the whole Kang War thing, was probably my favorite Avengers story ever. It just kicked off when I started buying them monthly and managed to stay great, even though it took what, two years or so to play out? I guess I just got the impression that most people didn't care for the story overall, although I had that impression about Age of Apocalypse for the longest time and had that proved wrong as well.

Go Kang!!

[Corey W]

The Kang war is easily Kang's best story though. For most of his history he was an incomprehensible, and pretty lame, villian. He loses points for that in my book.

For consistency, I will take Ultron (although I haven't read his recent Mighty Avengers appearance). Ultron Unlimited is one of the most badass Avengers storylines, and Ultron has always put the fear into me.

I also love that the world's greatest robot wasn't created by Stark, Doom or Richards, it was created by biochemist. Then it turned against biological life. Having Hank create the robot was an outside the box link that worked very well.

[Rev. Calibos]

Wow, I'm kind of amazed that Kang is winning. His last real appearance, the whole Kang War thing, was probably my favorite Avengers story ever. It just kicked off when I started buying them monthly and managed to stay great, even though it took what, two years or so to play out? I guess I just got the impression that most people didn't care for the story overall, although I had that impression about Age of Apocalypse for the longest time and had that proved wrong as well.

Go Kang!!



Kang's had a messy, messy history which one would expect given that he's a time traveler.

I'm basing my vote for Kang as top foe because of a number of reasons.

Longevity firstly as he's been a foe since nearly the very start.

Consistency as you seldom see Kang/Immortus outside of the Avengers titles.

Lastly, considering Kang Wars and Avengers Forever.

Avengers Forever was a masterful 'cleaning up' of sorts by Busiek that neatly and creatively found a way to tie up all of the nagging little loose ends in Avengers history.

It was as much a Kang story as it was an Avengers story and it truly defined Kang as the definitive Avengers foe. The one foe who, more than anyone else, has the largest impact on the team throughout it's storied history.

[Lou25]

I've honestly yet to read Avengers Forever, although it is on the list. Never did really get into the whole Kang/Scarlet Centurion/Immortus/Rama Tut thing, I've seen it semi-explained in a few other books and have a basic understanding of how all that works as as far as who he was/when he was. I think most of it was introduced in a section of the series I have yet to read.

As I'm still enjoying SI for the most part, this isn't a full-blooded slam against it, but: Since the Kang war was supposed to have him taking over the whole world for X amount of time, would it have made a good-excellent summer event, or at least a better one than we've seen in the last few years?

[Rev. Calibos]

I've honestly yet to read Avengers Forever, although it is on the list. Never did really get into the whole Kang/Scarlet Centurion/Immortus/Rama Tut thing, I've seen it semi-explained in a few other books and have a basic understanding of how all that works as as far as who he was/when he was. I think most of it was introduced in a section of the series I have yet to read.


Honestly, if I had to pick ONE story that could give somebody an overview of the Avengers as a team it would be Avengers Forever.

For an older fan like myself it cleared up a lot of the nagging little things that were left around the edges (Hank's breakdown, Vision/Human Torch origins, Kangs eventual destiny as Immortus, etc.) and for newer readers it's a brilliant way to start as a jumping on point.


As I'm still enjoying SI for the most part, this isn't a full-blooded slam against it, but: Since the Kang war was supposed to have him taking over the whole world for X amount of time, would it have made a good-excellent summer event, or at least a better one than we've seen in the last few years?

I concur, if they had done a 'Kang Invasion' and set it up with Kang invading Earth with his legions I think it would have been a bit more interesting than the Skrulls.

I've yet to get past issue #3 of SI and to me it's been sort of 'meh'. I just can't see the Skrulls as any kind of threat.

[Corey W]

I've honestly yet to read Avengers Forever, although it is on the list. Never did really get into the whole Kang/Scarlet Centurion/Immortus/Rama Tut thing, I've seen it semi-explained in a few other books and have a basic understanding of how all that works as as far as who he was/when he was. I think most of it was introduced in a section of the series I have yet to read.

As I'm still enjoying SI for the most part, this isn't a full-blooded slam against it, but: Since the Kang war was supposed to have him taking over the whole world for X amount of time, would it have made a good-excellent summer event, or at least a better one than we've seen in the last few years?

It would have, but aside from a few on panel scenes with other heroes fighting Kang, I am not sure that it ever did show up in other books.

In fact, I think the fact that D.C. was obliterated was basically ignored afterwards.

[brundlefly]

Kang
Baron Zemo/Masters Of Evil
Ultron
Korvac
Count Nefaria

[Evil-Spidey]

1- Kang as he was in Avengers Forever
2- Ultron as he was in Ultron Unlimited
3- Count Nefaria
4- Helmut Zemo and his masters of evil
5- Graviton

[marvell2100]

Ultron
Count Nefaria
Korvac/Michael
Masters of Evil
Kang
Grim Reaper
Kree
Skrulls
Thanos
Lord Templar

Very good list of villains for the Avengers.

[The Hope and the Slaughter]

Does anyone else find it interesting and ironic that in Secret Wars, in a plot twist that was weird but also made sense, Ultron killed Kang! And to make it even weirder, The Crossing kind of implicated Kang's influence in Hank creating Ultron!

[GHalecki]

I thought it was Doom tha killed Kang in SW. I will have to check.....


I think Graviton and Neferia both need to get at least two more classic stories under their belts before they can compete with Ultron or Kang. The potential is there, but there just isn't enough of it to justify them being on the level of the big two.
Same thing with Loki really. Off the top of my head I can think of three good stories with him involved vs the avengers (first issue, Avengers/Defenders War, Acts of Vengence) plus one crappy anniversary/recap issue (i think it was 400).

If Korvak got one more great story like his first one, then he would be a decent favorite to beat out any of the others. I might still go Ultron then, but not by much.

Doom isn't an Avengers villian, nor is Magneto, nor Red Skull. Or Terrax.

[The Hope and the Slaughter]

[QUOTE=GHalecki;7965400]I thought it was Doom tha killed Kang in SW. I will have to check.....


QUOTE]


Doom had Ultron reprogrammed to serve him and said "Ultron, kill Kang." Kang tried to reason with Doom, but Ultron killed him. I've read it hundreds of times including recently, as it is one of the few TPBs that are here with me and not in storage. Certainly check if you like, but Ultron killed Kang.

[GHalecki]

Ah yes. You properly refreshed my memory. They kind of both did it, as you say. Doom pulled the trigger but it was Ultron that WAS the gun.

[hawkeye comeback]

1) Ultron : Ultron Unlimited nuff said
2) Masters of Evil: Under Siege woops ass
3) Count Neferia: Busiek and Perez end to their run was brilliant

[gunnerfan69]

The first ever Avengers comic I read was when they were fighting Count Nefaria after he gained those powers from sucking Power Man, Whirlwinds, and the Melter (I think he was one of them) powers -- I just remember the scene after he's defeated the main group and is in super villain gloat mode and that last panel with Thor showing up and his hammer about to smash into Nefaria. Absolute epic.

[The Hope and the Slaughter]

The first ever Avengers comic I read was when they were fighting Count Nefaria after he gained those powers from sucking Power Man, Whirlwinds, and the Melter (I think he was one of them) powers -- I just remember the scene after he's defeated the main group and is in super villain gloat mode and that last panel with Thor showing up and his hammer about to smash into Nefaria. Absolute epic.


Wouldn't have been as effective had he forgotten his hammer, especially considering the 60 second enchantment at the time. :-)

[gunnerfan69]

Wouldn't have been as effective had he forgotten his hammer, especially considering the 60 second enchantment at the time. :-)

True having Don Blake throwing a stick at him would have been a bit silly. :biggrin:

[GHalecki]

However having Byrne in his prime actually DRAW it would have been a hoot!

[The Hope and the Slaughter]

However having Byrne in his prime actually DRAW it would have been a hoot!

LOL, yeah, have to agree with you there!

[Asian_Invasion]

I was going to go with Zemo and the Masters of Evil, but I have a special place in my heart for Kang.

[The Hope and the Slaughter]

I was going to go with Zemo and the Masters of Evil, but I have a special place in my heart for Kang.

I'm sure Kang will lead an incarnation of the Masters of Evil someday....