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Sir_Hawkeye
03-20-2005, 12:32 PM
Name your 5 favorite Avengers Villains:
1. Red Skull
2. Kang
3. Dr. Doom
4. Masters OF EVil
5. LEgion Of Unliving
Neolucifer
03-20-2005, 12:35 PM
Dr doom
Red Skull
Loki
Kang
Wanda ( joke :D )
Masters of evil
Super Villains INC>
03-20-2005, 01:11 PM
off the top of my head, i'd go with
Kang
Ultron
Masters of Evil
Wrecking Crew (ok, they are pretty lame guys, but I just like to see them wreck stuff)
Korvac
Kang, Immortus, Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurian
The Masters of Evil
Morgan Le Faye
Ultron
The Supreme Intelligence
Runners Up:
Count Nefaria
The Zodiac
The U-Foes
Korvac
The Grim Reaper
Karl J. Barnes
03-20-2005, 01:22 PM
Korvac
Kang
Masters of Evil
Ultron
Graviton, the first Avengers comic that I read was his debut.
1HELLBOY
03-20-2005, 02:01 PM
Ultron
Kang
Masters of Evil
Red Skull
Dr. Doom
Hulkamaniac
03-20-2005, 02:34 PM
i'd have to say:
Kang
Dr.Doom
ultron
masters of evil
Red skull
and a special shout out to AIM, you my boys yo :D
off the top of my head, i'd go with
Kang
Ultron
Masters of Evil
Wrecking Crew (ok, they are pretty lame guys, but I just like to see them wreck stuff)
Korvac
The Crew are only used to push a new team's strength now.
Brian R
03-20-2005, 09:30 PM
I dont know if I would consider Doom an Avengers villain really, but I will include him on my list anyway. :)
Ultron
Kang the Conquerer
Dr. Doom
Red Skull
Count Nefaria
Sean Whitmore
03-20-2005, 10:54 PM
Now you mention it, I don't really like many Avengers villains. Huh.
1. Nefaria
2. Graviton
3. Ultron
4. Baron Zemo
5. Kang
I also like seeing them fight the Squadron Supreme during their many, many mind-controlled periods. :)
SEAN
comic_lover
03-21-2005, 12:26 AM
5 favorite Avengers Villains:
1. Masters of Evil
2. Kang
3. Ultron
4. The Grim Reaper
5. Korvac
BTW guys,The Red Skull is primarily a Captain America villian than an actual Avengers villain.
Brian R
03-21-2005, 12:28 AM
BTW guys,The Red Skull is primarily a Captain America villian than an actual Avengers villain.
Yeah, but there is such a lack of quality Avengers villains. :(
comic_lover
03-21-2005, 12:58 AM
Yeah, but there is such a lack of quality Avengers villains. :( Huh ? Is that a joke ? There are good villains that haven't even been mentioned....like : The Skrulls,The Space Phantom(s),Akron,Hydra,Thanos,Attuma,The Purple Man,Loki,The Collector,Terminus,The Enchantress,Mephisto,The Dire Wraiths,The Grandmaster,Terrax,The Super Skrull,Maelstorm,The Magus,The Absorbing Man,Egghead,Klaw,The Radioactive Man,The Taskmaster,Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle,Tiger Shark,Melter,Man-Killer,Whirlwind,Magneto,Speed Demon ( as Thw Whizzer ).......and many more I could name.
Brian R
03-21-2005, 01:03 AM
Huh ? Is that a joke ? There are good villains that haven't even been mentioned....like : The Skrulls,The Space Phantom(s),Akron,Hydra,Thanos,Attuma,The Purple Man,Loki,The Collector,Terminus,The Enchantress,Mephisto,The Dire Wraiths,The Grandmaster,Terrax,The Super Skrull,Maelstorm,The Magus,The Absorbing Man,Egghead,Klaw,The Radioactive Man,The Taskmaster,Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle,Tiger Shark,Melter,Man-Killer,Whirlwind,Magneto,Speed Demon ( as Thw Whizzer ).......and many more I could name.
Im sorry, but there are many characters on that list that I would consider sub-par, and also quite a few that I wouldnt count as being Avengers villains any more than Red Skull.
comic_lover
03-21-2005, 01:16 AM
Im sorry, but there are many characters on that list that I would consider sub-par, and also quite a few that I wouldnt count as being Avengers villains any more than Red Skull.Sub par ? Don't count as villains ? Apparently you don't have the books those villains appeared in...but I do.Don't force me to look up the appearances too ! ;)
Red State Cap
03-21-2005, 01:17 AM
Korvac
Ultron
These guys pretty much shredded the Avengers in some of the best issues ever, #176-177 and #201-202.
There really aren't any others close in my opinion, though perhaps I might include Baron Zemo.
RSC
Phrozen
03-21-2005, 01:50 AM
1. Baron Zemo II
2. Ultron
3. Kang
4. Morgan Le Fay
Im sorry, but there are many characters on that list that I would consider sub-par, and also quite a few that I wouldnt count as being Avengers villains any more than Red Skull.
Agree, Purple Man might end up an NA villain but he's more a Spidey/DD or even Jessica Jones villain more than Avengers, for one.
Brian R
03-21-2005, 02:06 AM
Sub par ? Don't count as villains ? Apparently you don't have the books those villains appeared in...but I do.Don't force me to look up the appearances too ! ;)
People I find sub-par:
The Space Phantom, Akron, Attuma, The Dire Wraiths, Egghead, Klaw,The Radioactive Man, Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle, Tiger Shark, Melter, Man-Killer, Whirlwind, Speed Demon.
People I dont consider AVENGERS villains:
Thanos, Magneto, Terrax, Taskmaster, Mephisto.
Those are MY opinions.
People I find sub-par:
The Space Phantom, Akron, Attuma, The Dire Wraiths, Egghead, Klaw,The Radioactive Man, Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle, Tiger Shark, Melter, Man-Killer, Whirlwind, Speed Demon.
People I dont consider AVENGERS villains:
Thanos, Magneto, Terrax, Taskmaster, Mephisto.
Those are MY opinions.
Hell,two of those aren't villains now.
Brian R
03-21-2005, 02:14 AM
Hell,two of those aren't villains now.
Mags will always be a villain to me. I dont care what the stupid x-writers are doing at the moment. He isnt an EVIL person, but he is a villain.
comic_lover
03-21-2005, 02:29 AM
People I find sub-par:
The Space Phantom, Akron, Attuma, The Dire Wraiths, Egghead, Klaw,The Radioactive Man, Mr.Hyde,The Grey Gargoyle, Tiger Shark, Melter, Man-Killer, Whirlwind, Speed Demon.
People I dont consider AVENGERS villains:
Thanos, Magneto, Terrax, Taskmaster, Mephisto.
Those are MY opinions.Take some time and look it up.They ALL were villains that fought The Avengers at one time or another.The ones you find " sub par " were actually in groups like The Masters of Evil when they fought the Avengers.Hell,Attuma fought the Avengers in " Atlantis Attacks " as well as a host of other Marvel heroes...People you don't consider villains,like Magneto,have fought against them in the past....especially Thanos,who wiped out the whole damn universe.Read The Infinity Gauntlet series when you get the chance.Taskmaster fought and continues to fight the Avengers,he trains most of the thugs the major baddies hire.He fought Hawkeye and Ant-Man as well as trained U.S. Agent....do some research.Just because you don't think of them as qualifying as Avengers villians doesn't mean they weren't at one time or another.
Brian R
03-21-2005, 02:31 AM
Take some time and look it up.They [ALL were villains that fought The Avengers at one time or another.The ones you find " sub par " were actually in groups like The Masters of Evil when they fought the Avengers.Hell,Attuma fought the Avengers in " Atlantis Attacks " as well as a host of other Marvel heroes...People you don't consider villains,like Magneto,have fought against them in the past....especially Thanos,who wiped out the whole damn universe.Read The Infinity Gauntlet series when you get the chance.Taskmaster fought and continues to fight the Avengers,he trains most of the thugs the major baddies hire.He fought Hawkeye and Ant-Man as well as trained U.S. Agent....do some research.Just because you don't think of them as qualifying as Avengers villians doesn't mean they weren't at one time or another.
I have read IG, its just that to me, thats not an Avengers story so much as a Marvel story, you know? To me, fighting the Avengers once or twice doesnt make you an Avengers villain, even though technically you would be. Do you get what I am saying?
Same for Magneto, sure he has fought them, but how many people would actually list him as an Avengers villain?
Mags will always be a villain to me. I dont care what the stupid x-writers are doing at the moment. He isnt an EVIL person, but he is a villain.
I meant Speed Demon and the Radioactive Man.
Brian R
03-21-2005, 03:03 AM
I meant Speed Demon and the Radioactive Man.
LOL :D Sorry about that, I assumed you meant Thanos and Magneto.
LOL :D Sorry about that, I assumed you meant Thanos and Magneto.
They're anti heroes. Wheras the two I mentioned are T-Bolts.
Moses
03-21-2005, 06:09 AM
1. Baron Zemo
2. Kang
3. Ultron
4. Super-Skrull
5. Loki
Ned Leeds
03-21-2005, 08:56 AM
Kang
Ultron
Baron Zemo
Immortus
Skrulls
kingpin51
03-21-2005, 02:57 PM
kang
masters of evil
zemo
count nefaria
bendis
SybaritaCybernetico
03-23-2005, 08:41 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't really consider Morgan LE Fay an Avengers villain?
In spite of tha fact that both Perez and Austen made her face off with them?
I have always seen her as a Spider-Woman villain, but that's just me.
My faves are:
Ultron
Kang
Nefaria
Immortus
Zemo
Mister Mets
03-23-2005, 09:03 PM
1. Ultron
2. Masters of Evil
3. Korvac
4. Kang
5. Taskmaster (first appeared in an Avengers story)
AlanScott606
03-23-2005, 09:20 PM
1. Ultron
2. Kang
3. Masters of Evil
4. Korvac
5 Baron Zemo
Jessica Drew
06-20-2005, 10:49 PM
Okay. The real deal...Who's your favorite? Realize, now, that I only had ten options, so I apologize if I left off your favorite.
cosmicspidey
06-20-2005, 11:11 PM
Ultron's really the only big Avengers villain who stays Avengers-centric. Kang goes to FF, Zemo goes to T-Bolts, Loki goes to Thor...that's why Ultron gets my vote.
Red State Cap
06-20-2005, 11:31 PM
Sorry Jessica, but where the hell is Korvac? This is kind of like leaving the Red Skull off a poll of Captain America's greatest enemies.
I voted for "other" as you might guess.
RSC
The Shadow
06-20-2005, 11:42 PM
I went with Nefaria
He's always a badass (even though he gets his ass handed to him) and I always enjoy his appearances. And I'm sick of Kang and Ultron.
Jessica Drew
06-20-2005, 11:44 PM
Sorry Jessica, but where the hell is Korvac? This is kind of like leaving the Red Skull off a poll of Captain America's greatest enemies.
I voted for "other" as you might guess.
RSC
Well, I thought about putting Korvac on the list, but decided not to because--although his arc was great--his appearances are--if I'm correct--in that one arc only. If I had more than ten slots, he--as well as the Zodiac, Thanos, Graviton, and others--would have been in the poll.
Tragix
06-21-2005, 01:14 AM
1) Kang
2) Ultron
3) Thanos
4) Grim Reaper
5) Loki
Dark Soul # 7
06-21-2005, 01:46 AM
I voted for The Masters of Evil because I always love when supervillains team up against superhero teams, it makes for great free for all battles.
And come on their name is the MASTERS OF EVIL! :D
Second is Ultron and third is Nefaria.
I like the Masters of Evil but I'd like to see The Lion God come back. He promised he'd return waaaaay back in 1973, but so far that lying hagfish hasn't shown his maned face. Maybe we can lure him from that other dimension with some Little Friskies...
jcp011c
06-21-2005, 06:32 PM
Could it be anyone besides Ultron or Kang? And that was a tough choice. As villains they've been long standing, had personal reasons for making the Avengers their enemies, and have come closer to defeating the Avengers more so than most.
So really I'll say it's a tie. With Grim Reaper or Nefaria sharing the bronze.
....
Why wasn't Brian Michael Bendis on the list? :confused:
tricksterpup
06-21-2005, 09:09 PM
There is only one Villain worthy..
Dr. Doom.
Neolucifer
06-21-2005, 09:21 PM
Doom Shall Reign Suprem !!!
Economist
06-22-2005, 06:33 PM
My rankings
1)Doom -Why should he be mainly FF villian. Also works well as a foil for Iron Man, Thor, and Cap.
2)Hulk -Who doesn't love Hulk vs Thor/Iron Man fights?
3)Kang - Cool villian, but time travel stories suck unless you have a good writer.
4)Ultron
Nightcrawler
06-22-2005, 06:49 PM
Ultron, man.
Babylon23
06-22-2005, 07:10 PM
There's nothing I love more than villains teaming up to beat on the heroes. The Masters of Evil get my vote.
I second BobC's Lion God vote. Where has he been hiding all this time?
Another favourite is the Zodiac. Whatever happened to those guys?
jcp011c
06-22-2005, 07:41 PM
Another favourite is the Zodiac. Whatever happened to those guys?
The Zodiac was very cool. Particularly in the last storyline they were in with the Scorpio playing it alone against the Avengers. Seemed like the writer had intended them to be recurring villains, but alas....doubtful that would EVER happen now.
Red State Cap
06-23-2005, 12:32 AM
Well, I thought about putting Korvac on the list, but decided not to because--although his arc was great--his appearances are--if I'm correct--in that one arc only. If I had more than ten slots, he--as well as the Zodiac, Thanos, Graviton, and others--would have been in the poll.
Admittedly it was only the one arc, but many Avengers fans consider it to be the single greatest arc, and greatest villain in Avengers history.
The Grim Reaper? The Thunderbolts? GYRICH? Over Korvac? Come on!
RSC
ghostrider666
06-23-2005, 04:54 AM
I just really dig when the Avengers go up against Ultron.
Mister Mets
06-23-2005, 07:49 AM
Zemo, and the MAsters of Evil. They're also the Thunderbolts, and a logical enemy for a heroic superteam.
Kang, and Ultron should be members of the Masters of Evil.
Shellhead
06-23-2005, 08:45 AM
I haven't voted yet. I think that these are good selections, but I am starting to realize that I am currently bored with the villains that the Avengers have fought on so many occasions.
Kang was cool, but after the Celestial Madonna storyline, that crosstime council of Kangs, Avengers Forever, and then the recent war with Kang, I am sick of him.
Ultron was great, despite a couple of weak stories in West Coast Avengers, but that Ultron Unleashed epic from Busiek/Perez was so excellent that nobody will be able to tell a better Ultron story for years.
Zemo got overexposed, and should stay put with Thunderbolts for a while. Without Zemo, the Masters of Evil are disorganized super-goons... give them a new leader and they could be interesting.
Nefaria still has some potential, but needs more personality.
Graviton is powerful but has a cardboard personality. Someday a decent writer might tell us an interesting story with him in it.
Grim Reaper is too weak to fight the Avengers without a gimmick.
Thanos is too powerful and disinterested to really qualify as an Avengers villain. In fact, Thanos hasn't really been a villain for about 15 years now.
While I would like to see Loki battle the Avengers, he has been blatantly overused in Thor's title for decades.
Korvac appeared in just three stories... the big Korvac story in Avengers, preceded by his first appearance in Giant-Size Defenders #3 (he fought a tech vs magic duel with Dr. Strange) and Thor Annual #6, against Thor and the Guardians of the Galaxy. Good stories, but he's gone for good.
I guess my choice is Zodiac. It's true that they were a silver age theme team that didn't make sense as opponents for the Avengers. Most of them were just human criminals wearing odd costumes, but they could take hits from heroes like Iron Man, Thor and Vision and then bounce back up in a few panels, without any explanation or reference to that amazing durability. A new Zodiac with superhuman powers would be great, ideally more durable than the android/LMD Zodiac that was destroyed in the pages of Weapon-X.
With a nod to Babylon23 in this thread, maybe we could see the Lion God come back and grant supernatural power to van Lunt's Zodiac, or else work in something with this new Scorpio and that mystic Key.
mandog
04-18-2006, 10:05 PM
Of all the mighty Avengers villains who is your favorite?
Exodus
04-19-2006, 02:39 AM
Kang.
He always seemed like the most powerfull pure Avengers Villain in their roster.
Thou Ultron was kinda cool in some of his incarnations as well.
-Exodus
Dark Soul # 7
04-19-2006, 05:20 AM
Ultron as he was in Ultron Unlimited and the Masters of Evil.
Evil-Spidey
04-19-2006, 05:51 AM
1-ultron
2-grim reaper
3-count nefaria
4-kang
5-zemo's masters of evil
nanteen
04-19-2006, 06:31 AM
1. Ultron
2. Kang
3. Masters of Evil (lead by Baron Zemo)
4. Hulk
5. Bendis
Linguini
04-19-2006, 06:52 AM
The Sentry
NathanielEssex
04-19-2006, 09:52 AM
Ultron!
Kang, Grim Reaper, and the Masters are all very cool, but Ultron is my favorite of them all. Kang seems too close to Dr. Doom in terms of villain niche for him to be my absolute favorite. Still love Kang, though!
Doom Hammer
04-19-2006, 10:44 AM
1. Ultron
2. Kang
3. Masters of Evil (lead by Baron Zemo)
4. Hulk
5. Bendis
Bendis is number one, AND you know it.
Tragix
04-20-2006, 05:26 AM
Kang The Conqueror
Count Nefaria
Ultron
The Collectors
Babylon23
04-20-2006, 09:38 PM
The Masters of Evil. I love big hero team vs. big villain team battles.
Will.S
04-20-2006, 09:47 PM
Definitely Ultron. Kang would be 2nd place after him.
Tony Starkz
04-21-2006, 07:31 AM
Masters of Evil 3 or 4(the one led by Zemo in the siege)
Kang
da_real_yellowjacket
04-21-2006, 05:19 PM
1 :: ultron
2 :: kang
3 :: squadron supreme/sinister
Doom Hammer
04-21-2006, 05:41 PM
Savage Land Mutates.
...what?
Young Avenger
04-21-2006, 06:02 PM
Ultron is my favorite Avengers villain. With Kang being second.
annihilator
04-21-2006, 08:04 PM
Masters of Evil with Zemo
LordEd1976
04-21-2006, 08:48 PM
The Avengers have so many great villains I can't pick just one.
Masters of Evil (1st group and the huge armada created by Helmut Zemo)
Grim Reaper
Ultron (especially in Ultron Unlimited)
Kang (especially in Celestial Madonna)
Supreme Intelligence
The Legion of the Unliving
Korvac
I could do a Bendis joke here but there's two things stopping me. One; he'd be on my list of LEAST favorite villains. And two; it would too easy to put him in a villains list. I like to challenge myself and putting him in a list of great Avengers villains would too obivious. I'd feel guilty afterwards for taking such an easy shot.
meethraa
04-22-2006, 12:09 AM
Favorite villains: Ultron; Jocasta and Taskmaster for their ambiguity.
Least favorite villains: Some "fans"; closet completists.
Kang
Immortus
Ultron
Morgan Le Faye
Grandmaster
Count Nefaria
Michael Korvac
Loki
Masters of Evil
GreenHornet
04-22-2006, 08:14 AM
My vote is for Taskmaster
not all powerful but still fun when he is around
also I like the Hydra-clones
Manchine
04-22-2006, 08:49 AM
1) Kang, easily one of the favorites.
2) Grandmaster, one of the few characters that have affected so much of the Avengers history.
3) Masters of Evil, Baron Zemo is the man.
4) Ultron, a robot bent on destroying all biological life. What is there not to like.
CyberCoyote
04-23-2006, 10:54 AM
BMB! He's done more damage to 'em than any other :)
Kang is a classic, he's gone up against everyone (who hasn't), but his is the kind of villainy that really makes the Avengers do and be what they are supposed to be, Earth's Mightiest banding together to stop threats no other single champion can overcome.
Then again there are Ninjas (okay, I'll stop..)
Ravenheart
04-23-2006, 11:04 AM
Ultron is my favorite Avengers villain.Probably because he was the villain in the first issue of Avengers I ever got :D
Phrozen
04-23-2006, 11:22 AM
The Collector
Ultron
Kang
The Masters of Evil
Ivan Isaacs
04-23-2006, 11:35 AM
Michael Korvac.
One of the few Avengers villains I can stand (I hate Ultron and especially Kang. Those are villains that should NEVER be used again. NEVER!).
Dark Soul # 7
04-23-2006, 12:17 PM
One of the few Avengers villains I can stand (I hate Ultron and especially Kang. Those are villains that should NEVER be used again. NEVER!).Really, why? I´m actually curious. Why do you hate them?
Will.S
04-23-2006, 01:04 PM
Really, why? I´m actually curious. Why do you hate them?
Cuz Ivan is quirky like that.
DOOM2099
04-23-2006, 03:01 PM
Kang.
He always seemed like the most powerfull pure Avengers Villain in their roster.
-Exodus
Kang totally pwns. The whole premise is just perfect. He can pull anything out and just say ''Oh, they sell these at every corner 7-11 in the 30th century... Right by the slurpee machine'', and it makes sense. I mean, what the hell do you know about 30th century convenience stores?
Syzygy
05-02-2006, 12:13 AM
Kang seems too close to Dr. Doom in terms of villain niche for him to be my absolute favorite. Still love Kang, though!
I always thought this myself until the Avengers Forever graphic novel, which really fleshed the character out. This is how I see them as different:
Doom is much more cultured, intellectual, and aristocratic than Kang. Doom would rather catch heroes like flies in a web. He views himself as a master plotter, and would rather win a victory of mind than brawn. He is a scientist, an inventor, a scholar, and an occultist. Doom lives primarily in his head.
Kang strikes me as much more of a barbarian. He reminds me of Ares and Apocalypse, somewhat, in that a great part of him is this overwhelming physical lust for battle. Yes, her puts on refined airs, and yes, he uses high tech, but that's not really him. He's the guy that wants to rip off your head and spit down your neck. Kang lives primarily in his body.
Doom is driven to conquer the world because his ego is so huge, he simply can't tolerate the thought of anybody being above him.
Kang is driven to conquer worlds because he likes the feeling he gets when his boot is stomping on someone's face.
Here's my list:
1. Kang
2. Taskmaster
3. Scarlet Witch
4. Immortus
5. Loki
Peace,
Syzygy
Herald of Asgard
05-02-2006, 03:40 AM
The Wrecking Crew
Masters of Evil (Zemo)
Ultron
Grim Reaper
Kang
NathanielEssex
05-02-2006, 08:52 AM
I always thought this myself until the Avengers Forever graphic novel, which really fleshed the character out. This is how I see them as different:
Doom is much more cultured, intellectual, and aristocratic than Kang. Doom would rather catch heroes like flies in a web. He views himself as a master plotter, and would rather win a victory of mind than brawn. He is a scientist, an inventor, a scholar, and an occultist. Doom lives primarily in his head.
Kang strikes me as much more of a barbarian. He reminds me of Ares and Apocalypse, somewhat, in that a great part of him is this overwhelming physical lust for battle. Yes, her puts on refined airs, and yes, he uses high tech, but that's not really him. He's the guy that wants to rip off your head and spit down your neck. Kang lives primarily in his body.
Doom is driven to conquer the world because his ego is so huge, he simply can't tolerate the thought of anybody being above him.
Kang is driven to conquer worlds because he likes the feeling he gets when his boot is stomping on someone's face.
Here's my list:
1. Kang
2. Taskmaster
3. Scarlet Witch
4. Immortus
5. Loki
Peace,
Syzygy
Well, you've got me convinced. I still like Ultron more, because he's so different than any character not named Brainiac (and he's way cooler than Brainiac), but Kang is more of a warrior than Doom. Doom still has his warrior aspects, but it's is more pronounced with Kang. Kang is Genghis Khan, Doom is more like Hitler or Stalin. And Avengers Forever made me a fan, too!
hoffmandu
05-03-2006, 10:38 AM
1. Loki - gotta give him props, he's the reason why they exist (uhm, fictionally)
2. Zemo (either one)- he rules and is underused.
3. Wrecking Crew- for how powerful these guys are they sure don't get much airplay.
As far as the New Avengers are concerned, I dig 'em. Give me a break, Jack of hearts was a member? I don't mind hawkeye getting whacked, he was cool, but whattaya gonna do. Vison? Expendable martian manhunter clone. She-hulk? Awesome to see her Hulk out.
I like the new group. Spidey? Come on, everyone likes Spidey. Cage? Awesome addition and written well. Sentry? Meh, not sure what to think just yet. Spider Woman? Cool to see her again and also written well. Ronin? Very lame that it's Sonar or whatever the f^%$ her name is, should have been DD, Iron Fist or Shang.
Personally, I think the biggest problem with the new series is the villians thus far. Give me Doom. Give me Loki. Give me.....uhm Arcade or somebody other than this Onslaught wannabe.
Haunt
05-03-2006, 02:52 PM
1. Loki
2. Zemo
3. Kang
Dustin
08-11-2006, 03:03 PM
1. Red Skull
2. Prince Namor a.k.a Sub-Mariner
3. Kang
4. Bendis
5. Masters of Evil
Kirk G
08-11-2006, 05:07 PM
1. Red Skull
2. Prince Namor a.k.a Sub-Mariner
3. Kang
4. Bendis OUCH! THAT'S MEAN....:(
5. Masters of Evil
.................
Haunt
08-11-2006, 06:09 PM
Director Hizzle
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Mariahill.PNG
Smarty Jones
08-11-2006, 06:27 PM
I don't know if it's unreasonable to consider Thanos an Avengers villain. Even before The Infinity Gauntlet, he had two classic battles with The Avengers (which also included the likes of Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock, The Thing and Spider-Man helping them) that included the fate of the Marvel Universe.
Also, given the nature of members like Captain America, Iron Man and Thor, their enemies tend to flow over into The Avengers' affairs. The Avengers were founded fighting Loki, a character whom the team rarely faced in battle in subsequent years -- is he an Avengers villain or not? The Red Skull and Baron Zemo also have crossed swords with The Avengers, as well as The Mandarin. Count Nefaria spent most of his years as an Iron Man foe, and most people consider Nefaria an Avengers foe.
Haunt
08-11-2006, 06:31 PM
I don't know if it's unreasonable to consider Thanos an Avengers villain. Even before The Infinity Gauntlet, he had two classic battles with The Avengers (which also included the likes of Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock, The Thing and Spider-Man helping them) that included the fate of the Marvel Universe.
Also, given the nature of members like Captain America, Iron Man and Thor, their enemies tend to flow over into The Avengers' affairs. The Avengers were founded fighting Loki, a character with whom the team rarely faced in battle in subsequent years -- is he an Avengers villain or not? The Red Skull and Baron Zemo also have crossed swords with The Avengers, as well as The Mandarin. Count Nefaria spent most of his years as an Iron Man foe.
you put Ultron at the top?! he recently got taken out by the Runaways. and, before that, an army of him attacked the Avengers on their home turf and were dispatched in about 2 pages. the Falcon beat one.
Smarty Jones
08-11-2006, 06:55 PM
"you put Ultron at the top?! he recently got taken out by the Runaways. and, before that, an army of him attacked the Avengers on their home turf and were dispatched in about 2 pages. the Falcon beat one."
A lot of villains were inexplicably beaten as ridiculous plot devices to make a creator's heroes look stronger. Squirrel Girl has beaten both Doctor Doom and Thanos. Kang the Conqueror was beaten by Young Avengers.
I have no idea what Avengers fight you're referencing here. When Ultron is done correctly, he's one of the deadliest villains in the Marvel Universe.
Alan2099
08-11-2006, 07:17 PM
I'd put Ultron and kang as the top 2.
Haunt
08-11-2006, 07:20 PM
A lot of villains were inexplicably beaten as ridiculous plot devices to make a creator's heroes look stronger. Squirrel Girl has beaten both Doctor Doom and Thanos. Kang the Conqueror was beaten by Young Avengers.
I have no idea what Avengers fight you're referencing here. When Ultron is done correctly, he's one of the deadliest villains in the Marvel Universe.
Avengers Disassembled; Chaos storyline.
Dustin
08-12-2006, 02:02 AM
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What is that supposed to mean?
Babylon23
08-13-2006, 05:15 PM
1) The Masters of Evil - In all their incarnations. I just love big supervillain teams.
2) Ultron - Made even more poignant by his connection to Hank Pym and the Vision.
3) Kang/Immortus - Since he's technically one person, I've listed these 2 together. I love time travel stories, and I've always been fascinated by this character and his alternates.
4) The Grim Reaper - A great villain with a rather sick but cool motivation.
5) The Zodiac - Another cool villain group. I wish Johns had hung around to complete his Zodiac story.
brundlefly
08-14-2006, 08:58 PM
1. The Baron Zemo-led Masters of Evil, circa Under Siege.
2. Kang
3. Ultron
4. Thanos
5. Nefaria
Jeff-E
08-14-2006, 09:37 PM
I don't know if my first actually qualifies as an Avengers villian but here goes
1) Thanos... (Real surprise there huh?)
2) Kang the friggin' Conquerer (damm hard to spell words)
3) Masters of Evil any incarnation is great
4) Wrecking Crew (see note on MoE)
5) Ultron
sorry but I have to throw in one more
6) Loki, I always loved it when he was shown as powerfull and manipulative enough to take on the team all on his own or using pawns, where he was the mastermind, and not just Thor's punching bag.
twilight
08-14-2006, 10:48 PM
Dead tie for me between Ultron and Kang.
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