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Knightosis
03-18-2005, 03:18 PM
I know Hentai is from Japan, but I'm just curious, how DID this thing
ever get started?

I mean, who in Japan actually made the first Hentai? Since, it is
somewhat popular I just always wondered who was the guy who
actually thought, "Hey I know, I'll make an animated pornography!"

Jack
03-18-2005, 03:23 PM
Slayven was born, and the sheer impact on the fabric of reality altered history in his image retroactively.

raoulduke
03-18-2005, 03:31 PM
I know Hentai is from Japan, but I'm just curious, how DID this thing
ever get started?

I mean, who in Japan actually made the first Hentai? Since, it is
somewhat popular I just always wondered who was the guy who
actually thought, "Hey I know, I'll make an animated pornography!"

Well if you mean erotic drawings...it's been around for a long time.

Sex has always been a major issue in human history, so basically it just stems from people so interested in it they wanted to draw it.

Tages
03-18-2005, 03:35 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Japan have a tradition of erotic art embeded into its cultural history?

raoulduke
03-18-2005, 03:37 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Japan have a tradition of erotic art embeded into its cultural history?

It does from what I've seen.

Tages
03-18-2005, 03:48 PM
Slayven was born, and the sheer impact on the fabric of reality altered history in his image retroactively.
...or that.

hitokiri_
03-18-2005, 03:56 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Japan have a tradition of erotic art embeded into its cultural history?


word.

char limit

G. Wayne
03-18-2005, 03:58 PM
I know Hentai is from Japan, but I'm just curious, how DID this thing
ever get started?

I mean, who in Japan actually made the first Hentai? Since, it is
somewhat popular I just always wondered who was the guy who
actually thought, "Hey I know, I'll make an animated pornography!"

iirc, a big thing that helped the tentacle bit evolve are japan's goofy decency laws.

something along the lines that a, um, biologically correct male organ can't be shown. there's nothing against, (and i have no idea who started it either) having an exxagerated, "tentacle" type organ though.

there's something about hair in certain places too, which is why the women are usually, um, "shaved".

and i think there's something about bodily fluids too, even, which is why they tend to be radioactive looking.

hey, i got a little curious after seeing a blurred out scene in one of the overfiend movies. "everything they show, and the STILL CENSOR something?!? wtf?"

Cain of Dreaming
03-18-2005, 04:06 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Japan have a tradition of erotic art embeded into its cultural history?

Yup, pillowbooks. Though I think they were originally more of a sex ed for the young brides and grooms rather than the equivalent of modern erotic art.

Jack
03-18-2005, 04:23 PM
iirc, a big thing that helped the tentacle bit evolve are japan's goofy decency laws.

something along the lines that a, um, biologically correct male organ can't be shown. there's nothing against, (and i have no idea who started it either) having an exxagerated, "tentacle" type organ though.

there's something about hair in certain places too, which is why the women are usually, um, "shaved".

and i think there's something about bodily fluids too, even, which is why they tend to be radioactive looking.

hey, i got a little curious after seeing a blurred out scene in one of the overfiend movies. "everything they show, and the STILL CENSOR something?!? wtf?"
Yeah, those crazy Japanese and their totally insane censorship laws.... which were introduced by the US during the occupation..

Tages
03-18-2005, 04:29 PM
Yeah, those crazy Japanese and their totally insane censorship laws.... which were introduced by the US during the occupation..
As were laws against drug usage, particularly methamphetamines, and various other...

Must...resist...urge...to discuss...politics..............

Jack
03-18-2005, 04:32 PM
Blah blah dark side blah blah give in.

Yogi
03-18-2005, 04:33 PM
I don't know if this is considered an adult link (http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~bhaug/netsuke/amasan.htm) or not.

Slayven
03-18-2005, 04:36 PM
Slayven was born, and the sheer impact on the fabric of reality altered history in his image retroactively.
guilty as charged

Slayven
03-18-2005, 04:37 PM
I don't know if this is considered an adult link (http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~bhaug/netsuke/amasan.htm) or not.
and that is why i love you

Jack
03-18-2005, 04:40 PM
and that is why i love you
And that is why Aub will hunt you down and kill you. :)

Jack
03-18-2005, 04:41 PM
guilty as charged
I call em like I see em.

Tages
03-18-2005, 04:42 PM
Blah blah dark side blah blah give in.
Darth Blah, we meet again.

Slayven
03-18-2005, 04:43 PM
I call em like I see em.
My theory is sometime int eh future i will be sent back to teh time of the big bang and the formation of the universe and slayvenocity will produce a unique time fo radiation that will promote perversity through adversity(I needed to rhyme). did we create fire to warm orselves or make ti so warm chicks had to take their clothes off...think about it

Slayven
03-18-2005, 04:44 PM
And that is why Aub will hunt you down and kill you. :)
i will not interupt the Yogi/Aub war...it is too full of passion and youth

Knightosis
03-18-2005, 05:30 PM
I'm aware that erotic art is old as hell, I meant, specifically how did Hentai
get made?

I doubt Osamu Tezuka made it.

I mean WHO did start it?

Yogi
03-18-2005, 05:57 PM
I'm aware that erotic art is old as hell, I meant, specifically how did Hentai
get made?

I doubt Osamu Tezuka made it.

I mean WHO did start it?How does one draw the line between Hentai and aincient erotic art?

Knightosis
03-18-2005, 05:59 PM
Anime is more mainstream animation.

I'm asking who made the first animated Hentai. Who started the "craze"
so to speak.

BrendanK
03-18-2005, 06:20 PM
Anime is more mainstream animation.

I'm asking who made the first animated Hentai. Who started the "craze"
so to speak.
Well, the first one brought up is generally Cream Lemon (Don't recall who made it, except they later made Project A-Ko. Well, they initially intended to do A-Ko as a Cream Lemon title, but they changed their minds). It probably wasn't the first, but I'm prety sure it was the first one to do well enough to gain real recognition.

Sanagi
03-18-2005, 06:22 PM
I think it was probably an obvious idea to everyone in the porn business once animation became popular.

SAMAS
03-19-2005, 08:44 AM
I'm aware that erotic art is old as hell, I meant, specifically how did Hentai
get made?

I doubt Osamu Tezuka made it.

I mean WHO did start it?

Alao, Katsushika Hokusai, a man known as the actual inventor of Manga(He also did that one picture of the really huge wave), made a woodcut called The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife) You can guess what that's getting at.

Before(and during, and after) that, the Japanese had always had shunga, which were erotic pictures made as woodblock pictures or in painted scrolls.

But yes, Urotsukidoji was actually the first anime with tentacles.

OverMaster
03-19-2005, 10:58 AM
I doubt Osamu Tezuka made it.


Actually, ISTR Tezuka did at least one hentai manga (the man was an all-terrain), but I'm not too sure about it.

OverMaster
03-19-2005, 10:59 AM
Alao, Katsushika Hokusai, a man known as the actual inventor of Manga(He also did that one picture of the really huge wave), made a woodcut called The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife) You can guess what that's getting at.



That thing is creepy.

BrendanK
03-19-2005, 11:39 AM
Alao, Katsushika Hokusai, a man known as the actual inventor of Manga(He also did that one picture of the really huge wave), made a woodcut called The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife) You can guess what that's getting at.

Before(and during, and after) that, the Japanese had always had shunga, which were erotic pictures made as woodblock pictures or in painted scrolls.

But yes, Urotsukidoji was actually the first anime with tentacles.
No, actually Cream Lemon came out with Tentacles before that, it's just Urotsukidoji took the concept to such an extreme, it became the model.

Aubergine~!
03-26-2005, 07:24 PM
Slayven was born, and the sheer impact on the fabric of reality altered history in his image retroactively.

First thing I thought when I read the title, and i's the first reply. Well done, my Jaw brethren.

And that is why Aub will hunt you down and kill you.

No, I'm going to hunt him down for this:

i will not interupt the Yogi/Aub war...it is too full of passion and youth

*Starts writing Slayven/God's Greatest Joke lemon*

Jack
03-26-2005, 08:06 PM
ARGHH! Aub, my fragile mental state cannot take such pain!

Aubergine~!
03-27-2005, 04:49 AM
ARGHH! Aub, my fragile mental state cannot take such pain!

Just imagine Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka...