OT : How did Hentai come to be?

[Knightosis]

I know Hentai is from Japan, but I'm just curious, how DID this thing
ever get started?

I mean, who in Japan actually made the first Hentai? Since, it is
somewhat popular I just always wondered who was the guy who
actually thought, "Hey I know, I'll make an animated pornography!"

[Jack]

Slayven was born, and the sheer impact on the fabric of reality altered history in his image retroactively.

[raoulduke]

I know Hentai is from Japan, but I'm just curious, how DID this thing
ever get started?

I mean, who in Japan actually made the first Hentai? Since, it is
somewhat popular I just always wondered who was the guy who
actually thought, "Hey I know, I'll make an animated pornography!"

Well if you mean erotic drawings...it's been around for a long time.

Sex has always been a major issue in human history, so basically it just stems from people so interested in it they wanted to draw it.

[Tages]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Japan have a tradition of erotic art embeded into its cultural history?

[raoulduke]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Japan have a tradition of erotic art embeded into its cultural history?

It does from what I've seen.

[Tages]

Slayven was born, and the sheer impact on the fabric of reality altered history in his image retroactively.
...or that.

[hitokiri_]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Japan have a tradition of erotic art embeded into its cultural history?


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[G. Wayne]

I know Hentai is from Japan, but I'm just curious, how DID this thing
ever get started?

I mean, who in Japan actually made the first Hentai? Since, it is
somewhat popular I just always wondered who was the guy who
actually thought, "Hey I know, I'll make an animated pornography!"

iirc, a big thing that helped the tentacle bit evolve are japan's goofy decency laws.

something along the lines that a, um, biologically correct male organ can't be shown. there's nothing against, (and i have no idea who started it either) having an exxagerated, "tentacle" type organ though.

there's something about hair in certain places too, which is why the women are usually, um, "shaved".

and i think there's something about bodily fluids too, even, which is why they tend to be radioactive looking.

hey, i got a little curious after seeing a blurred out scene in one of the overfiend movies. "everything they show, and the STILL CENSOR something?!? wtf?"

[Cain of Dreaming]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Japan have a tradition of erotic art embeded into its cultural history?

Yup, pillowbooks. Though I think they were originally more of a sex ed for the young brides and grooms rather than the equivalent of modern erotic art.

[Jack]

iirc, a big thing that helped the tentacle bit evolve are japan's goofy decency laws.

something along the lines that a, um, biologically correct male organ can't be shown. there's nothing against, (and i have no idea who started it either) having an exxagerated, "tentacle" type organ though.

there's something about hair in certain places too, which is why the women are usually, um, "shaved".

and i think there's something about bodily fluids too, even, which is why they tend to be radioactive looking.

hey, i got a little curious after seeing a blurred out scene in one of the overfiend movies. "everything they show, and the STILL CENSOR something?!? wtf?"
Yeah, those crazy Japanese and their totally insane censorship laws.... which were introduced by the US during the occupation..

[Tages]

Yeah, those crazy Japanese and their totally insane censorship laws.... which were introduced by the US during the occupation..
As were laws against drug usage, particularly methamphetamines, and various other...

Must...resist...urge...to discuss...politics..............

[Jack]

Blah blah dark side blah blah give in.

[Yogi]

I don't know if this is considered an adult link (http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~bhaug/netsuke/amasan.htm) or not.

[Slayven]

Slayven was born, and the sheer impact on the fabric of reality altered history in his image retroactively.
guilty as charged

[Slayven]

I don't know if this is considered an adult link (http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~bhaug/netsuke/amasan.htm) or not.
and that is why i love you

[Jack]

and that is why i love you
And that is why Aub will hunt you down and kill you. :)

[Jack]

guilty as charged
I call em like I see em.

[Tages]

Blah blah dark side blah blah give in.
Darth Blah, we meet again.

[Slayven]

I call em like I see em.
My theory is sometime int eh future i will be sent back to teh time of the big bang and the formation of the universe and slayvenocity will produce a unique time fo radiation that will promote perversity through adversity(I needed to rhyme). did we create fire to warm orselves or make ti so warm chicks had to take their clothes off...think about it

[Slayven]

And that is why Aub will hunt you down and kill you. :)
i will not interupt the Yogi/Aub war...it is too full of passion and youth

[Knightosis]

I'm aware that erotic art is old as hell, I meant, specifically how did Hentai
get made?

I doubt Osamu Tezuka made it.

I mean WHO did start it?

[Yogi]

I'm aware that erotic art is old as hell, I meant, specifically how did Hentai
get made?

I doubt Osamu Tezuka made it.

I mean WHO did start it?How does one draw the line between Hentai and aincient erotic art?

[Knightosis]

Anime is more mainstream animation.

I'm asking who made the first animated Hentai. Who started the "craze"
so to speak.

[BrendanK]

Anime is more mainstream animation.

I'm asking who made the first animated Hentai. Who started the "craze"
so to speak.
Well, the first one brought up is generally Cream Lemon (Don't recall who made it, except they later made Project A-Ko. Well, they initially intended to do A-Ko as a Cream Lemon title, but they changed their minds). It probably wasn't the first, but I'm prety sure it was the first one to do well enough to gain real recognition.

[Sanagi]

I think it was probably an obvious idea to everyone in the porn business once animation became popular.

[SAMAS]

I'm aware that erotic art is old as hell, I meant, specifically how did Hentai
get made?

I doubt Osamu Tezuka made it.

I mean WHO did start it?

Alao, Katsushika Hokusai, a man known as the actual inventor of Manga(He also did that one picture of the really huge wave), made a woodcut called The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife) You can guess what that's getting at.

Before(and during, and after) that, the Japanese had always had shunga, which were erotic pictures made as woodblock pictures or in painted scrolls.

But yes, Urotsukidoji was actually the first anime with tentacles.

[OverMaster]

I doubt Osamu Tezuka made it.


Actually, ISTR Tezuka did at least one hentai manga (the man was an all-terrain), but I'm not too sure about it.

[OverMaster]

Alao, Katsushika Hokusai, a man known as the actual inventor of Manga(He also did that one picture of the really huge wave), made a woodcut called The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife) You can guess what that's getting at.



That thing is creepy.

[BrendanK]

Alao, Katsushika Hokusai, a man known as the actual inventor of Manga(He also did that one picture of the really huge wave), made a woodcut called The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman%27s_Wife) You can guess what that's getting at.

Before(and during, and after) that, the Japanese had always had shunga, which were erotic pictures made as woodblock pictures or in painted scrolls.

But yes, Urotsukidoji was actually the first anime with tentacles.
No, actually Cream Lemon came out with Tentacles before that, it's just Urotsukidoji took the concept to such an extreme, it became the model.

[Aubergine~!]

Slayven was born, and the sheer impact on the fabric of reality altered history in his image retroactively.

First thing I thought when I read the title, and i's the first reply. Well done, my Jaw brethren.

And that is why Aub will hunt you down and kill you.

No, I'm going to hunt him down for this:

i will not interupt the Yogi/Aub war...it is too full of passion and youth

*Starts writing Slayven/God's Greatest Joke lemon*

[Jack]

ARGHH! Aub, my fragile mental state cannot take such pain!

[Aubergine~!]

ARGHH! Aub, my fragile mental state cannot take such pain!

Just imagine Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka...

[RegalSin]

I just answering this question in a more direct approach.

There was never any original Hentai animation. Basically it started during the 1970's with

sexploitation films
Super Violence series
even Blacksploitation films

Then the 1980's rolled on in with

B-movies
Horror films.

many artists inflitrated works of there own lives. Later it was movies. However in television they could never ever show such stuff on television and thus the OVA was born.

Everybody remembers the sex scene in Terminator, Blade Runner, and even Dune ( if there was one ). Well that is how the idea of Hentai was born.

Also the situation of such series is born out of the "Golden Porn Age" ( not the 1980's ) but the 1950's and etc.. Where there situations, and stories was more realistic. To weirdo situations like from the XXX films "Deep Throat" and "Candy".
Keep in mind there was sex, pornography, nudity in films even before the United States was a country. Also some of these films from the Golden Age had people that was under age.

SInce you could put whatever you want on Video ( and now Video on DVD ) , they had the freedom to do as they please. The comic book artist true dream.
So the first logical, Hentai is Macross. Since this was the first OVA.

About Cream Lemon series. It was one of many series to include sex scenes, and or such situations. However to keep the series running, they wented into Hentai, since AV models, and So on was becoming extremly popular at the time.

About Japanese Hentai in the past. Many series born in the 1970's was from the 1960's occupication. In fact the occupication of Japan was there best years in terms of monies. We should have never left:eek:

Before, the Japanese had the Geshia's but exchanged that for modernization. It still exsists but is rare and more expensive then any OVA. There was also paintings that is no differnt then the ones from the Renasiances era. However, remember there diets was differnt from the westerns, and there usage of the brush is slightly differnt.

Also Japan was cut off from the world. This is why they stay the way they are. Nationalists. This is why there is items there that is in still usage from even the days of King Author. This is also why they are popular. They have managed to preseve there culture unlike the west including China. The only other country to even attempt to preseve there culture is Australlia, Russia, NKorea, Brasil and so on.

[DeadXMan]

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/Ozpunker/Motivation-11.jpg
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii373/SummerDesiree/Motivational%20Posters/55b9005f074210_full.jpg

Just chalk it up as byproduct of nuclear fallout. it makes life less complicated.

[OverMaster]

I choose the Tsuruya stall, any day of the week.

[MKTerra]

Hentai is just a logical extension of comics and animation as general-purpose media in Japan. Just as they have serious animated movies alongside live-action movies, they have animated porn alongside live-action porn.
http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii373/SummerDesiree/Motivational%20Posters/55b9005f074210_full.jpgThat one might actually be a Photoshop. (Then again, it could be real.)

[DeadXMan]

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh56/NevadaWildcard/Motivational%20Posters/De_motivational_Poster_by_yuki_snow.jpg

seriously, It has to be the radiation.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I just wonder where would hentai be today, if the US hadn´t introduced some censorship laws after WW2.

[DeadXMan]

I don't know and I don't want to know.

God help us when Sony's true 3D tv become mainsteam.:eek:

[cosmic eagle]

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii373/SummerDesiree/Motivational%20Posters/55b9005f074210_full.jpg



I want that toilet too....

[Aubergine~!]

I miss the Jaw Squad.

I don't even remember what we were talking about.