View Full Version : Hands OFF! Characters you would like to survive House of M
Tobias March
03-18-2005, 01:31 PM
It's seems a given that there's going to be some dying this summer, so I thought a pre-emptive notice should be given. Because someone's favourite character is going to die, so let your voices be heard before the axe falls.
Personally I'm afraid Moon Knight will kick it. I've always had a soft spot for the character and was saddened to seem him commonly referred to as a Batman knock-off, with little further development.
Cloak is another second or third division I would hope would survive. Despite the frankly bizaare origins I always thought his powers were strangely interesting and his character needed exposure on a bigger stage. His cameo with Dagger in 'Runaways', was quite fun. (I haven't even seen him in the promo art, but Dagger's there, so it's a safe bet).
Forge, the idea of super-intelligent mutants seems to be limiting for some writers, but Fabian's description of Forge looking at a piece of Nimrod tech and then suddenly intuiting its design in X-Force was nicely done. More of that would be appreciated.
Kirk G
03-18-2005, 02:06 PM
Bendis! It's Bendis!
tricksterpup
03-18-2005, 02:13 PM
Bendis! It's Bendis!
I would have to disagree with Kirk on this, I would like to see Bendis as the first Fatality from House of M.
I hope all the characters survive. If the only point of this event is to kill off characters than it is a waste of paper. I don't want to see any character be killed off for no reason... well, except the Punisher.
I don't know what is up with Bendis. He seems to really like killing off characters which, to me, is the mark of a poor writer. I remember Quesada saying that whenever Bendis asked to kill off a character, Q would threaten him with having another writer kill off Jessica Jones. But, maybe Bendis wore him down.
I hope all the characters survive. If the only point of this event is to kill off characters than it is a waste of paper. I don't want to see any character be killed off for no reason... well, except the Punisher.
I don't know what is up with Bendis. He seems to really like killing off characters which, to me, is the mark of a poor writer. I remember Quesada saying that whenever Bendis asked to kill off a character, Q would threaten him with having another writer kill off Jessica Jones. But, maybe Bendis wore him down.
The problem is that a LOT of people like Jessica, she's not called the "best new character in 10 years" for nothing.
And Moon Knight's safe, Bendis likes noir, and MK IS noir in the MU. Dazzler and Longshot OTOH, I would gladly see gotten rid of.
The Fury
03-18-2005, 02:37 PM
No one should die, everyone should live. End of story.
Ryan K
03-18-2005, 02:51 PM
I think Moon Knight is safe. After that article in Wizard a couple months back with all those creators talking about how much they like the character, I imagine Marvel wouldn't off him. I'm actually surprised he hasn't gotten some sort of announcement of a new series since then.
No killing Jubilee though Mr. Bendis.
Kirk G
03-18-2005, 02:54 PM
I would have to disagree with Kirk on this, I would like to see Bendis as the first Fatality from House of M.
That's no disagreement, Trickster! We're on the same page!!
hahahahah!
jade_nova
03-18-2005, 03:24 PM
You really shouldn't worry about who is going to die or whether there will be massive killings. They promised the same thing for Disassembled and only three people died in that.
Ivan Isaacs
03-18-2005, 03:42 PM
Hands away from Cloak, Dagger, Century, DarkHawk, Shadowcat, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Wolfsbane, Mirage, Blink, Sleepwalker, Spider-Woman II, Asgardian and Diamondback! The rest? Well...
Characters I wouldn't mind being killed: Wolverine, X-23, Wolverine, Sage, Wolverine, Emma Frost, Wolverine, Jubilee, Captain America, Wolverine, Agent 13 aaaaannnd - Wolverine!
But on the other hand nobody should die just for the sake of being killed.
thik_3rd
03-18-2005, 03:51 PM
No one should die, everyone should live. End of story.
Xthik_3rd
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Jake V
03-18-2005, 03:54 PM
I'd like to see Spidey, Cap, Wolverine, Iron Man, Daredevil, annnnnnd.... uh, Spider-Woman survive.
The rest can die for all I care. I dont read any of the other solo books.
Satana Hellstrom
03-18-2005, 04:37 PM
Characters that are guaranteed to live:
Spider-Woman I , Peter,Wolverine, Luke Cage, Cap, Iron man, Daredevil, Jessica Jones and Sentry.
(U think Bendis would kill any of them? Please...)
Characters I doubt Marvel would allow to be killed :
Moon Knight, Storm, Xavier, Rogue, Gambit, Emma Frost...
Characters that I really fear for:
Dazzler...it was nice meeting ya, but I have a hunch...
Kirk G
03-18-2005, 07:12 PM
Xthik_3rd
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I think I'd like to see X-23 bite it! (There, that'll fix them...) :rolleyes:
UniqueFrequency
03-18-2005, 08:31 PM
i wanna see:
iron man
the original x-men
cap
falcon
quicksilver
to be left alone
i would like to see:
wolverine (fat home)
storm
x-23
juggernaut
rogue
gambit
emma frost
havok
die.
Z-man
03-18-2005, 09:04 PM
I have a feeling Hawkeye will die in it. I mean, sure, he's already dead, but tell that to Jack of Hearts.
LoneWolf21
03-18-2005, 09:37 PM
If that was Cannonball in the big picture (and I'm certain it is) I hope he survives, dang it.
Titan Slade
03-18-2005, 09:37 PM
For those wanting Wolverine to die, you should be reading Millar's Wolverine. He gets killed a bunch in it, but he keeps getting brought back to life :D .
Red State Cap
03-19-2005, 01:08 AM
I'd dearly love to see Wolverine pushing up daisies, and X-23 alongside him. Too bad it won't happen, but we can always hope that these angst-ridden meatballs will take the dirt nap at last.
RSC
_Jaye_
03-19-2005, 04:57 AM
I could imagine Iron Fist being killed , if only to piss off Luke Cage even more.
And maybe Jessica might lose the baby? Considering Wanda feels she has lost her own children, might create a little symmetry in that crazy mind of hers.
I could imagine Iron Fist being killed , if only to piss off Luke Cage even more.
And maybe Jessica might lose the baby? Considering Wanda feels she has lost her own children, might create a little symmetry in that crazy mind of hers.
I'll kill Bendis if he does that, Jessica is as close as comics get to a normal pregnancy. At least give her a damn normal family, Brian!
satchmo the dragon
03-19-2005, 12:50 PM
No one should die, everyone should live. End of story.
wrong, I know comics are intended for kids but let's face it just adults read them nowadays, so make them more mature.
Neolucifer
03-19-2005, 01:31 PM
yeah right because kids only like stupid animated sponges and stories without deaths :rolleyes:
I mean what the hell does the fact of being a kid or an adult , got to do with comics characters dying :D ?
Dark Phoenix
03-19-2005, 02:06 PM
Whatever happens, hands off Warbird/Ms. Marvel (or whetever she's calling herself these days). Carol has been screwed for too many years. If anything, bendis should power her back up to her Binary level powers and let her kick some major bootay!!
thik_3rd
03-19-2005, 04:11 PM
wrong, I know comics are intended for kids but let's face it just adults read them nowadays, so make them more mature.
yes, and having people dying left and right automatically makes something mature.
Sir_Hawkeye
03-19-2005, 06:03 PM
Well I think they better not kill off:
Captain America
Iron Man
Quicksilver
Wonder-man
Warbird
X-23
Psylcoke
Gambit
Beast
Spider-Man
Characters that can die:
Sage
Storm
Bishop
Emma Frost
Cyclops
Cloak
Agent X
Mystique
Well I think they better not kill off:
Captain America
Iron Man
Quicksilver
Wonder-man
Warbird
X-23
Psylcoke
Gambit
Beast
Characters that can die:
Sage
Storm
Bishop
Emma Frost
Cyclops
Cloak
Agent X
Spider-Man
Mystique
WTF!!!!!!! Yes, because killing off your flagship character is a great idea. Now, ifonly DC could kill Superman... :rolleyes:
Sir_Hawkeye
03-19-2005, 06:15 PM
WTF!!!!!!! Yes, because killing off your flagship character is a great idea. Now, ifonly DC could kill Superman... :rolleyes:
Owe my bad spidey was supposed to go into the dont kill list my bad thanks for pointing that mistake out :D
tangentman
03-19-2005, 06:22 PM
Hands Off
Spider-Woman I
Warbird
Iron Fist
Moonstar
Emma Frost
Kitty Pryde
Beast
Songbird
By All Means, Please Kill
Cable
Gambit
Punisher
Sunspot
Domino
Sir_Hawkeye
03-19-2005, 06:25 PM
Hands Off
Spider-Woman I
Warbird
Iron Fist
Moonstar
Emma Frost
Kitty Pryde
Beast
Songbird
By All Means, Please Kill
Cable
Gambit
Punisher
Sunspot
Domino
GAMBIT!!!!!!!!! are you crazy he's one of the coolest characters in Marvel. I know tons of people who read comics just cause they like him!
Neolucifer
03-19-2005, 06:53 PM
Dont kill gambit !! just break up the rogue/gambit couple please!!
And cable ?? are you crazy !!!?? The guy is only becoming lovable since his duo with deadpool !! :D
Punisher can live , he no longuer crosses over other titles as often as he used to and is pretty much self contained .
Sunspot ? no !!! he is finally getting something to do , with his new gig as black king . Now if he could indeed do something as the black king and kill viper :D .
Domino... mmm yeah i guess you can kill her . But let her bring shattestar and rictor along
Agent x ?? mm yes since deadpool is there (hands off definitely!!) , but at the condition of the Agency X's cast surviving !! (especially ...well tasky and sandi)
thik_3rd
03-19-2005, 08:00 PM
nooooooooo dont kil dom!
Psyco panda
03-19-2005, 08:30 PM
The Runaways. Everyone else can die quickly. Because frankly, they're going to return just as quickly.
Captain Shady
03-19-2005, 10:45 PM
They can kill Black Knight.
They can kill anyone. I wouldn't mind if Spiderman was whacked. Be nice if he went out as the most heroic figure and saved the entire MU. He'd be back anyway.
Neolucifer
03-20-2005, 06:22 AM
They can kill vision for good :D .
Definitely kill Marrow , but it might happen anyway in frank tieri's upcoming sequel to weapon x .
Typo Lad
03-21-2005, 07:37 AM
Feh.
Everyone is someone's favorite, so I'm not much for rooting for ANYONE to die.
That said, Quesada has been quoted as saying that they're looking for "the right pitch" for Moon Knight, so he's pretty much a sacred cow.
What would be suprising is if Marvel decided to kill someone "major" and let someone else take up the mantel. Yes, DC did much the same with The Flash, so i don't expect it, but I would prefer a legacy over the eventual ressurection.
Vegetarian Goat
03-21-2005, 02:33 PM
I say kill off anyone who suggests that death automatically equals a good storyline.
tricksterpup
03-21-2005, 03:03 PM
Hehehe.. Lets just see Bendis try and kill Dead Pool... hehe, The man who will not die.
http://www.thepunishercomics.com/fun_stuff/clip_art/120500_deadpool.gif
Feh.
Everyone is someone's favorite, so I'm not much for rooting for ANYONE to die.
That said, Quesada has been quoted as saying that they're looking for "the right pitch" for Moon Knight, so he's pretty much a sacred cow.
What would be suprising is if Marvel decided to kill someone "major" and let someone else take up the mantel. Yes, DC did much the same with The Flash, so i don't expect it, but I would prefer a legacy over the eventual ressurection.
Hmm, who would be able to though? I could see Ricochet as the new DD maybe?
Kirk G
03-21-2005, 07:09 PM
Hehehe.. Lets just see Bendis try and kill Dead Pool... hehe, The man who will not die.
http://www.thepunishercomics.com/fun_stuff/clip_art/120500_deadpool.gif
Uh, I think you've got him confused with Mr. Immortal.... over in Great Lakes Avengers... right???!!! :rolleyes:
Neolucifer
03-21-2005, 07:14 PM
Well not really given the Deadpool/Death annual '98 ( Died and ressurrected twice) and "funeral for a freak" :D
1HELLBOY
03-21-2005, 09:25 PM
hands off: The New Avengers
The Sentry
The X-Men
Punisher
Deadpool(for gods sake, stay away!!!)
Moon Knight
Agent X
Black Panther
definately kill(or that i don't care about):
Emma Frost(kill this bitch bendis please!!!)
X-23(hate her, my favorite marvel character ripoff)
Psyloch(don't give a damn)
Mystique(don't care)
cosmicspidey
03-21-2005, 09:41 PM
I don't want them to kill anyone, unless it's for a really damn good reason. Is this what this mini-series is about? Mor pointless Avengers: Dissasebled-esque crap? I kind of had a feeling it would be Marvel's attempt to No-Prize itslef by explaining all the contradictary crap that's taken place in the last 2 or 3 years. You don't need to kill anyone to do that (well, maybe Magneto). They should definitely not kill of ahyone that is appearing regularly in a monthly title, because it just wouldn't be fair to the other writers.
Kojiro
03-22-2005, 10:10 PM
Wolverine doesn't need to die, he just really really needs to be scaled back these days. I really like Wolverine and all, but too much of a good thing can leave an upset tummy. He should be only in his own title and one team book. That's it. I also think he should go to the Bahamas and have a vacation for being so busy over the last several years.
As for Gambit, why would any of you want to see Gambit die? Gambit has got to be one of the most underused characters ever. For the longest time until he got his own title, he was almost the Metamorpho of Marvel comics... you rarely, if ever, saw the guy. Not to mention that he's just downright cool when he finally does see action.
I don't think anyone should die this summer, hell... they just killed a bunch of guys last summer and got mixed reviews to boot. Unless they want summer to be considered the "death season" and make everyone cynical towards it, Marvel should think twice about killing anyone in House of M.
Erik Lehnsherr
03-23-2005, 12:34 AM
Gambit and Wolverine can go. Enough with the overprotection of Wolverine. Have Magneto or Scarlet Witch rip his HEAD off. Clean.
Brian R
03-23-2005, 12:35 AM
Gambit and Wolverine can go. Enough with the overprotection of Wolverine. Have Magneto or Scarlet Witch rip his HEAD off. Clean.
Hmm, I wonder how you would feel about Magneto getting killed by his own daughter...
The Fury
03-23-2005, 02:43 AM
wrong, I know comics are intended for kids but let's face it just adults read them nowadays, so make them more mature.
Modern comics art not for kids, we all know this. But killing a character(s) for the sake of killing them is stupid and should not be done, we have evidence in Dissasembled of this, those death meant nothing. So much more could have been done and Bendis did not have to kill anyone, (OK Vision I would have allowed, he can be rebuilt).
So many deths have been stupid over the years, and if this is going to just be an excuse for Bendis to kill a loads of characters he does not like, that's not a good thing. None of these characters (that are involved in it) are nobodies. They are all known, nearly all of them have had their own series. I can't see any real good reason why any of these characters should die and I really don't think anyone else does.
Why he can't kill any one of the numerous stupid single appearence characters or the crappy character that have not appeared for 25 years, I don't know. I could look down the masterlist at www.marvunapp.com and pick a few hundred characters that I don't think anyone would mind dieing (mainly becuase no-one knows them). If any of these characters die, someone will not like it no matter how noble or worthy a death either.
Yes I suppose you could argue that given time they will appear again, (or maybe appear in Exiles for the time being), but it seems to me that Bendis may kill people just to sell the book. Bendis can write well, we've seen it (read it) in many different styles of books. Then Why does he have kill anyone to sell this or make it good? He doesn't.
I am hoping that I am correct and that with Disassembled out of the way and everyone suppecting Bendis will kill a load of characters, he'll go the other way, resurrect a few or something and not kill anyone. I mean we are talking about a Reality changing mutant here. This can be changed.
SalazarSleaze2
03-23-2005, 08:02 AM
Hmm, I wonder how you would feel about Magneto getting killed by his own daughter...
Can you imagine that?
I think Marvel would not have that happen, but it would be an interesting thing if after all is said and done, Wanda simply made Magneto cease to exist...
cosmicspidey
03-23-2005, 09:08 PM
Hmm, I wonder how you would feel about Magneto getting killed by his own daughter...
I highly doubt Marvel would go to the trouble of ret-conning his amazingly-done death in New X-Men to kill him off a year and a half later.
Herald of Galactus Number 420
03-23-2005, 11:43 PM
Cannonball can't die he is an external.
Brian R
03-23-2005, 11:48 PM
I highly doubt Marvel would go to the trouble of ret-conning his amazingly-done death in New X-Men to kill him off a year and a half later.
No, I understand. I was just trying to illustrate my point. EL is clearly a Magneto fanatic, so he could care less if Wolvie or Gambit go, but how would he feel if his favorite character was killed off? Exactly, he would be majorly pissed, thats why you should never kill off a comic book character without having a damn good reason, because he is bound to be somebody's favorite.* :D
*This is a semi-quote, but I cant remember the originator, my apologies.
Forefinger
03-24-2005, 12:21 AM
I hope all the characters survive. If the only point of this event is to kill off characters than it is a waste of paper. I don't want to see any character be killed off for no reason... well, except the Punisher.
I wish that everyone would stop bitching about Frank. He's been moved to MAX territory and will probably stay there as long as Ennis or another quality writer is around to keep him there. MAX means no contact with the rest of the MU, or at least is has so far.
Tobias March
03-24-2005, 12:48 AM
Why he can't kill any one of the numerous stupid single appearence characters or the crappy character that have not appeared for 25 years, I don't know. I could look down the masterlist at www.marvunapp.com and pick a few hundred characters that I don't think anyone would mind dieing (mainly becuase no-one knows them). If any of these characters die, someone will not like it no matter how noble or worthy a death either.
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One thing I think Bendis can do well is use little known characters and reinvent them. Generally they will tend to be characters that have been under utilized or simply badly written, though for some reason he finds them interesting (I think it may be just a generally nostalgia for the seventies on his behalf). If anything I think it less likely that he would kill off these potentially more interesting properties, because he can retool them to his own designs. More popular characters who have not ever been fully realized and retconned to a ridiculous degree by a series of overly egotistic writers (say hello John Byrne....) - they're dead meat!
Tobias March
03-24-2005, 02:47 AM
Cannonball can't die he is an external.
Actually that got retconned by Jeph Loeb. Apparently Cable was lying (and after all that speculation that Sunspot was the External). This is according to Selene.
Rich L
03-24-2005, 03:57 AM
The one death I'm really expecting is Wanda's. And I'm expecting that Magneto will be the man to do it in the end.
Huzzah!
03-27-2005, 04:30 AM
Actually i expect Wanda lives and Magneto dies.
Which would sort of piss me off as i like Magneto and hate all of his children save Anya. Luckily that seems to be the only one he really likes too.
From that big shot of superheroes who do i want dead and who alive?
Lets see
of those i can pick out (btw someone have a link of someone naming them all? Im a bit spotty on some of those avengers)
I would mind seeing the following dead
Yellowjacket. Although to be honest i just want the persona of yellowjacket killed. Giant Man can stay around
The guy over his left shoulder. I dont know who he is so why not kill him
Sentry i sorta like in new avengers but i hated his mini so maybe maim him. He's too powerful anyway
Dr Strange. If only to stop the Dr. Strange pops up because its important stuff. He needs a sucessor.
Gambit. This guy sucks
I like Wolverine but if marvel has the grapes to kill him they should think about it.
So for the first page the only ones i dont want to see touched are; dazzler havok cloak storm she-hulk and falcon.
Sentry needs to get smacked around just for how he is standing in that page. At ease soldier.
Second page
Wouldnt mind
Emma Frost, who really needs a codename. Sure she sort of had the white queen but that was more title than anything. And i dont want another 90s jean grey situation.
Cyclops. Not so much that i hate his character, but i wouldnt mind he getting offed. Same with emma. Seriously though look at him and sentry. Sentry is at attention, cyclops is at ease. Funny stuff.
Wonderman. Wonderboy is so much cooler.
Captain america. I actually want him to die and be replaced with a new captain america.
Xavier. Ive been wanting him dead for a loooooong time.
The lady behind Cannonball who i have no idea who is.
Those that shall live; Black Cat, Nightcrawler, Wasp(?), Luke Cage, Kitty, Cannonball and oddly spiderwoman whom i was sure i was going to hate.
Where is dagger by the way? And why is black cat there?
third page
Those that can die
Moon Knight, never liked the character. Plus his costume splattered with blood would be intersting visually
Bishop, who i like but if his death was good i wouldnt mind it
Iron fist, if only to help sell Cage
Rogue. Shes really starting to annoy me.
Colossus. Shouldnt have been brought back, and if only to aviod kitty and colossus pairing
Iron Man. Never liked the character. And plus you give that suit to someone else you could have a better character. Iron Man is like hand grenade man or ak 47 man.
Dont touch; Forge, Mystique, Beast, Ms Marvel, Spidey (although please touch his wife with as much evil and sadistic things you can think of bendis, hell even put her in a refridgerator, ill let it slide)
But quite frankly you can kill them all if you leave Magneto alone. Save probably kitty spidey and beast. i would have to think about that.
SabrinaMorrell
03-27-2005, 06:02 AM
They can kill Black Knight.
I wouldn't mind that either...
DDutchman
03-27-2005, 06:32 AM
Hawkeye, by all means.
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