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ratzo
03-17-2005, 08:47 PM
I was reading the new JLA, and in it, a bunch of them were in outer space. Superman, being Superman, didn't need any special breathing apparatus. Wonder Woman had some kind of oxygen mask over her mouth, Green Lantern had his force field, and Captain Marvel, since his powers come from magic, didn't need anything. Power Girl was there too and she didn't need an oxygen mask either. Does that mean she's stronger than Wonder Woman? I don't know anything about PG; I always thought Wondy was the strongest female hero.

Paradox
03-18-2005, 01:15 AM
Why do you think there's any connection at all between being able to go without oxygen for limited times and strength? I assume they're mutually exclusive powers. One has nothing to do with the other.

Brian R
03-18-2005, 01:43 AM
Besides, I have seen Superman, both in comics and in animated form, require an oxygen mask when venturing into outerspace. Presumably he could hold his breath for long time, but I never understood why he would be able to breath in space myself.

Gaz
03-18-2005, 02:21 AM
Besides, I have seen Superman, both in comics and in animated form, require an oxygen mask when venturing into outerspace. Presumably he could hold his breath for long time, but I never understood why he would be able to breath in space myself.
Maybe solar energy can sustain him?

davids
03-18-2005, 08:12 AM
unfilted. It also makes him stronger and faster. power girls origin is up in the air again, no longer ancient atlanteian, and is vunerable to green K. With lois talking about wanting a baby, could power girl be? Naw!

Eliseu Gouveia
03-18-2005, 09:23 AM
When Power Girl was critically injured and had to undergo surgery, Doctors found in her bodies organs they didnīt even knew what were for.
Itīs very likely that her physiology(sp) doesnīt obey the same rules as other humans and known humanoids, hence, she may not need to breathe oxygen.

Bordnlazy
03-18-2005, 07:43 PM
I was reading the new JLA, and in it, a bunch of them were in outer space. Superman, being Superman, didn't need any special breathing apparatus. Wonder Woman had some kind of oxygen mask over her mouth, Green Lantern had his force field, and Captain Marvel, since his powers come from magic, didn't need anything. Power Girl was there too and she didn't need an oxygen mask either. Does that mean she's stronger than Wonder Woman? I don't know anything about PG; I always thought Wondy was the strongest female hero.


I always thought powergirl was known as having the biggest br........err bicepts :D

Eliseu Gouveia
03-18-2005, 07:46 PM
I always thought powergirl was known as having the biggest br........err bicepts :D

I believe the word youīre looking for would be Lungs.

Power Girlīs exceptional....... torax capacity allows her to hold her breath far longer than most metahumans.

Forefinger
03-28-2005, 02:33 AM
Very...nice...big....lungs.

http://powergirl.metrocity.com/pgadorjany.jpg

Forefinger
03-28-2005, 02:45 AM
Anyone else feel like eating Turkey breast? http://www.geocities.com/powergirlsparadise/pixs/39.jpg

Kintales
03-28-2005, 03:42 AM
LOL! Those big lungs are the very assets that made her more lasting and popular than Supergirl although both suffer the same fate of inconsistent origins :D

Matt
03-28-2005, 03:51 AM
Superman used to require a breathing mask for space but he did some training with Mongul Jnr and since that time that requirement vanished.
No, didn't make any sense to me either but it's a comic book.

Tazer
03-28-2005, 05:06 AM
Yo.

IIRC, that training he did w/Mongul Jr. left him able to survive for far longer periods on a single intake of air; in that issue he comments that he was able to make it out to Jupiter w/a single breath whereas he wasnt able to do so before.

this was when they 1st encountered an Imperiex -probe, altho they didnt know it was only a probe then.




Tazer

Forefinger
03-29-2005, 01:38 AM
LOL! Those big lungs are the very assets that made her more lasting and popular than Supergirl although both suffer the same fate of inconsistent origins :D
I think that they could make PG's orgin that she's the Supergirl from the Antimatter universe that the Crime Syndicate comes from. She, at some point over there, got huge implants because she was a superpowered stripper or something prior to an acident that sent her over to the DCU and erased her memory.

Gaz
03-29-2005, 01:52 AM
I think that they could make PG's orgin that she's the Supergirl from the Antimatter universe that the Crime Syndicate comes from. She, at some point over there, got huge implants because she was a superpowered stripper or something prior to an acident that sent her over to the DCU and erased her memory.
I'm cracking ,because that sounds like a decent idea.

Paradox
03-29-2005, 01:57 AM
Better than 99% of the rest of them I've heard, at least.

Not that that's really saying much...

Forefinger
03-29-2005, 02:29 AM
That is saying much. Who doesn't like superpowered strippers with huge implants with no memory?

Paradox
03-29-2005, 02:52 AM
Forefinger gives me ideas:

That is saying much. Who doesn't like superpowered strippers with huge implants with no memory?

"Karen! Darling! Don't you recognize me? I'm your husband!"

Or is that too overboard? :p

Forefinger
03-29-2005, 03:12 AM
I'm just pissed that I didn't think of it first...

How's this? "Karen, you didn't wear a costume at all before, you were Naked Power Girl"

http://www.geocities.com/powergirlsparadise/pics/07.jpg

Captain Jim
03-29-2005, 05:51 AM
That picture's totally unrealistic. Power Girl has never had hair that long.

Forefinger
03-29-2005, 08:18 AM
That picture's totally unrealistic. Power Girl has never had hair that long.
I am deeply shamed by my lack of attention to PG's hair. I don't know what could have been keeping my attention from that...

DDM
03-29-2005, 08:34 AM
I'm just pissed that I didn't think of it first...

How's this? "Karen, you didn't wear a costume at all before, you were Naked Power Girl"

http://www.geocities.com/powergirlsparadise/pics/07.jpg

Although Kara has big breasts, she would never wear a costume that emphasized her breasts either. Power Girl's breasts would be mostly covered save for a small hole to show her cleavage. The hole this stripper model is wearing in huge. It needs to be much smaller.

Power Girl has beat up many men who heckled her breasts. That's why Kara would never wear this particular costume. Kara's hair is shorter too. And she doesn't wear much make-up either.

Forefinger
03-29-2005, 08:38 AM
Jeez, I was just using an excuse to show a hot babe wearing a PG costume. Although, I do think that she does show off her breasts intentionally. Otherwise there would be no cleavage hole. The only costume that I've seen here wear that didn't have that hole or was low cut was the yellow and white one with no cape. (I'm glad that one went away)

Typo Lad
03-29-2005, 08:49 AM
Although Kara has big breasts, she would never wear a costume that emphasized her breasts either. Power Girl's breasts would be mostly covered save for a small hole to show her cleavage. The hole this stripper model is wearing in huge. It needs to be much smaller.

Power Girl has beat up many men who heckled her breasts. That's why Kara would never wear this particular costume. Kara's hair is shorter too. And she doesn't wear much make-up either.

You, sir, are a True Fan.

Which explains why you frighten me at times.

Seriously though, that was one of the things that bugged me about her (horrible) red white and blue post JLE outfit (JLI v2 - Reading it can give you brain-bleeds)...it covered her almost completely except for a peek-abo by her cleavage.

It just felt out of character.

DDM
03-29-2005, 11:59 AM
You, sir, are a True Fan.

Which explains why you frighten me at times.

Seriously though, that was one of the things that bugged me about her (horrible) red white and blue post JLE outfit (JLI v2 - Reading it can give you brain-bleeds)...it covered her almost completely except for a peek-abo by her cleavage.

It just felt out of character.

If you have any of the Wally Wood All Star Comics #58 onward, Wood purposely designed Kara to be large breasted, but she was never written as a bimbo either. At the time, Power Girl was the Earth-2 equivilant of Earth-1's Supergirl. I suppose Power Girl's bustier attributes were to differentiate from her Earth-1 counterpart. Kara's original costume is just keeping the only thing constant since her origin had to be changed as a result of Crisis On Infinite Earths when none of the multiverse existed, but all of the multiple Earths had been merged into an amalgam single universe. Kara is currently wearing an updated version of her original costume in JSA, with a small hole showing her cleavage.

Her second costume covered all of her breats after her operation removed a few of her powers. I'm thinking the gold & white one.

I didn't like the red, white & blue outfit either. I'm glad Kara is back in her original costume.

Typo Lad
03-29-2005, 12:06 PM
I didn't like the red, white & blue outfit either. I'm glad Kara is back in her original costume.

I'm going to snip all the stuff I already knew just to say that I agree.

I don't object to the lowcut white outfit. Lowcut is one thing. Cutting a hole in the middle of a fulkl body costume was another. Just fekking pointless.

Paradox
03-29-2005, 08:18 PM
Um, you guys are aware that something like a turtleneck that's tight but completely covers actually emphasizes someone's breasts MORE than something low-cut, aren't you? :)

Speaking "fashion-wise" that is...

Titan Slade
03-29-2005, 08:22 PM
Very...nice...big....lungs.

http://powergirl.metrocity.com/pgadorjany.jpg

Are PG's knockers real or implants?

Captain Jim
03-29-2005, 08:25 PM
If you have any of the Wally Wood All Star Comics #58 onward, Wood purposely designed Kara to be large breasted, but she was never written as a bimbo either. At the time, Power Girl was the Earth-2 equivilant of Earth-1's Supergirl. I suppose Power Girl's bustier attributes were to differentiate from her Earth-1 counterpart.

Well, yeah, that and the fact that Wally liked to draw sexy women. :D I seem to remember he did some adult stuff once upon a time.

Paul Newell
03-29-2005, 08:37 PM
I didn't like the red, white & blue outfit either. I'm glad Kara is back in her original costume.

I vaguely remenber, during the period she wore this costume, someone mentioning her "assets" and the way she chose to "enhance" them. she came back with a great viewpoint for why she had costumes with the hole design....Can anyone remember what it was she said?

Forefinger
03-30-2005, 12:21 AM
PG had a great line in JL Elite recently. The JSA was tipped off to the drug activities of the undercover Elite and were fighting with them. There was a great shot of PG flying towards Coldcast with the POV right over his shoulder. It was a great shot of her and her assests. She tells him something like "Go ahead and stare, it makes it easier for me to hit you". She is probably very proud of her body and wants to show it off. As well as distracting bad guys with her "cleavage hole".
Erik Larsen's character Dart made statements about her costume that it being tight was an advantage for her that it distracted villians. I'm sure that PGs costume was designed with some of that in mind. As well as having fanboys raving about her breasts.

Add: I think that DC would sell out of a Power Girl series illustrated by Jim Balent.

barbgrayson
03-30-2005, 12:41 AM
maybe she is more powerful than wonder woman

Forefinger
03-30-2005, 03:44 AM
It seems to me that no one really pegs down WW in terms of her power. In the Morrison era JLA, she seemed to be just a shade less powerful than Superman. But at some point Deathstroke, who is a meta-human but whose strength is just above a normal human, went toe to toe with Wonder Woman. WW won the fight, but not by a lot. I doubt that anyone would have Powergirl nearly defeated by Deathstroke on the terms of physical fighting.

sikkbones
03-30-2005, 03:50 AM
kryptonian boob job....
and yes she's still from krypton.. but a 1000 years ago... a diffrent krypton than it is now...
kal-el is actually one of her desendants...

Forefinger
03-30-2005, 07:36 AM
kryptonian boob job....
and yes she's still from krypton.. but a 1000 years ago... a diffrent krypton than it is now...
kal-el is actually one of her desendants...
At this point, my stripper Supergirl from Earth 2 with no memory origin is just as valid.

Stanlos
03-30-2005, 11:13 AM
It seems to me that no one really pegs down WW in terms of her power. In the Morrison era JLA, she seemed to be just a shade less powerful than Superman. But at some point Deathstroke, who is a meta-human but whose strength is just above a normal human, went toe to toe with Wonder Woman. WW won the fight, but not by a lot. I doubt that anyone would have Powergirl nearly defeated by Deathstroke on the terms of physical fighting.

But with Deathstroke Loeb's dialogue made it clear that she didn't want to hurt Deathstroke and this was what she was trying not to do, in addition to reasoning with him. When it was obvious that wasn't going to happen and time was being lost she angrily ends the fight.

Also Jill's art makes it clear she was not wearing her bracelets.

Eliseu Gouveia
03-30-2005, 04:45 PM
At this point, my stripper Supergirl from Earth 2 with no memory origin is just as valid.


You know, I find it offensive that you guys would insinuate that if a beautiful woman has a voluptuous body and massive breasts, then she MUST be the result of a boob job.

There ARE women like that in real life you know?
In Karaīs case, it could just very well be in her genes.


................. Which brings us to MY theory of a genetically engineered kryptonian stripper :rolleyes:

sikkbones
03-30-2005, 07:28 PM
You know, I find it offensive that you guys would insinuate that if a beautiful woman has a voluptuous body and massive breasts, then she MUST be the result of a boob job.

There ARE women like that in real life you know?
In Karaīs case, it could just very well be in her genes.


................. Which brings us to MY theory of a genetically engineered kryptonian stripper :rolleyes:


big breasts are just one of power girls latent superpowers...
super puberty....

Forefinger
03-31-2005, 05:26 AM
But with Deathstroke Loeb's dialogue made it clear that she didn't want to hurt Deathstroke and this was what she was trying not to do, in addition to reasoning with him. When it was obvious that wasn't going to happen and time was being lost she angrily ends the fight.

Also Jill's art makes it clear she was not wearing her bracelets.
It's been years since I've seen that comic, I don't remember what issue it actually is, sorry. But I believe that I am correct that Wonder Woman has been written at several different power levels, just according to who the writer is.

Forefinger
03-31-2005, 05:37 AM
You know, I find it offensive that you guys would insinuate that if a beautiful woman has a voluptuous body and massive breasts, then she MUST be the result of a boob job.

There ARE women like that in real life you know?
In Karaīs case, it could just very well be in her genes.


................. Which brings us to MY theory of a genetically engineered kryptonian stripper :rolleyes:
Sorry to be offensive.
I was just thinking of a way that Powergirl could actually be Supergirl, but explain the two obvious differences in their physical make up. Now, why would she get a boob job that huge? She could be out of character from the Earth 2 that the evil JLA counterparts, the CSA are from. So, maybe a sripper.
I am aware that there are real women with large breasts, that aren't fat. I love women like that! They are the model for the current rage of women with huge fake breasts.

sikkbones
03-31-2005, 10:35 AM
she will eventually have her boobs explode when they cant figure out her origin and it will be the crisis on infinite boob jobs.

davids
03-31-2005, 03:18 PM
has most of her fathers powers, weakness kryptonite and her mom's amazon boobs, and temper. now what i don't know if she is jonathan's baby sister from the kingdom. the daughter of ww and supes from a diffrent reality. Or the love child of those two!!!!! guess in some reality those two got over the rift they are about to have. Then again she could be the child of Ka-L and Lois when they worked at the daily Star!

Tom
03-31-2005, 04:17 PM
Actually, the best theory I heard was that she was Kon and Cassie's child from the Titans Tomorrow future.

Typo Lad
04-01-2005, 05:42 AM
Actually, the best theory I heard was that she was Kon and Cassie's child from the Titans Tomorrow future.

Eh. I liked the "She's Iron Monroe and Pahntom Lady's missing kid" idea better.

Forefinger
04-01-2005, 06:20 AM
I think my idea is the best, but I would, being insane and all...

davids
04-01-2005, 06:29 AM
That and the fact she is no longer ancient atlantein. Maybe she is just plain supergirl from another hypertime reality! The superboy wonder girl time lost child is interesting. Could she be the baby Lois is starting to talk about wanting to have? I don't think Wonder Woman and supes from kingdom come would stop at one kid, so she could be jonathan's little sister and if he could cross hypertime perhaps she could as well. Then again, wonder woman aka queen Diana was pregnant again in DK2. So Diana might have two daughters. Perhaps she is a cross bred between some ancient Daximite and kryptonian, would explain the green K vunerability.

Forefinger
04-01-2005, 04:46 PM
I've read that her origin is supposed to be told at some point, any idea when it will be and in what book?

Forsaken_One
04-01-2005, 04:56 PM
I've read that her origin is supposed to be told at some point, any idea when it will be and in what book?
The rumor I heard is that it'll be told in one of the first few arcs of the upcoming JSA: Classified. But it was just a rumor as far as I'm concerned.

Expletive Deleted
04-01-2005, 04:58 PM
I've read that her origin is supposed to be told at some point, any idea when it will be and in what book?It was originally supposed to be told in JSA, but now it looks like it'll be in the first arc of JSA: CLASSIFIED.

Here's the preview image from WizardWorld LA:

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/dccomics/wizworldla05/jsajla01.jpg

sikkbones
04-01-2005, 05:10 PM
her breasts look small in that pic

EDIT: sikkbones, watch the language, please.

Forefinger
04-01-2005, 05:38 PM
I guess it will be nice to finally know something eh? I'll say that she is my favorite female character in DC.

Whats the second arc of JSA:Classified going to be, I can't believe it's not the JSA with Iron Monroe and some other second stringers?

Darkwing42
04-02-2005, 06:03 PM
Maybe Powergirl was originaly intended to have large breasts as a extra characteristic to make her feel out of place. She has little knowledge of her past and the creator may have felt adding something else to make her deal with people treating her different, could give a greater sense of isolation for her. I thought of the idea for this from the scene in Hawkman recently, where she feels upset when her palm is read and then some guys shouted to "show us your b**bs" and she beats the tar out of them. As far as a boob job goes, would anyone trust a silicone implant to withstand the riggors of battle?

sikkbones
04-02-2005, 06:09 PM
i know: huge boobs is secretly a latent mutant power of power girls.

Darkwing42
04-02-2005, 06:18 PM
Along with the power of antigravity too, I suppose.

sikkbones
04-14-2005, 09:33 PM
what does everyone think about the recent 1985 revelation?

Forefinger
04-14-2005, 11:45 PM
what does everyone think about the recent 1985 revelation?
What's the 1985 revelation?

sikkbones
04-14-2005, 11:46 PM
What's the 1985 revelation?



Ok, so it may not be THAT big of a day, but in the pages of the latest issue of JSA, closing out an arc in which members of that team have journeyed to the past to help the "old" JSA fight Per Degaton (a JSA enemy who has mastered time travel), Degaton actually references the JSA's "precious Huntress" being retconned out of reality. Pretty cool, huh? AND, when the team travels back to current time, they hit the year 1985 and there is a knot in the time stream. Rip Hunter (who is transporting the JSA in one of his time spheres), says to hang on and then they hit some sort of turbulence. Powergirl seems to be the one most affected. She emerges from the turbulence crying and holding her head. Something BIG is definitely brewing. Oh, and for those of you who don't know, 1985 is when DC unveiled it's Crisis on Infinite Earths maxi-series.

Does anybody else get that gnawing feeling that Power Girl realized what her post-Crisis origins were, and that she knows that maybe (and this is in no way my opinion. She's one of my top ten favorite dc characters) she shouldn't have survived Crisis? Which means that PG could die in this new one?

my thought has always been that PG should have been the one in superman's arms in COIE... and somehow maybe she's realized that one of her alternate selves did die in 1985.. that being supergirl (who is one of PG's alternate selfs if you think about it)


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Forefinger
04-14-2005, 11:54 PM
Maybe she's upset because she definately knows that she isn't Supergirl, kind of like in the Identity Crisis tie-in moment that she had with Superman, where she is tore up after the appearance of Kara, the new Supergirl. Either way, I hope that she survives the new crisis. I'll be upset with DC if they kill her off. She's my favorite DC female character.

sikkbones
04-14-2005, 11:58 PM
i say just ship her back to earth 2 with helena wayne...
and earth 2 better not be this CSA crap...

Forefinger
04-15-2005, 12:09 AM
No way, we need eye candy in JSA!

Forefinger
04-17-2005, 05:02 AM
BTW, I think that a series drawn by Frank Cho (Liberty Medows) would sell out. Check it out http://powergirl.metrocity.com/pgcho.jpg

sikkbones
04-17-2005, 05:13 AM
BTW, I think that a series drawn by Frank Cho (Liberty Medows) would sell out. Check it out http://powergirl.metrocity.com/pgcho.jpg
holy crap... there proportional...

davids
04-17-2005, 07:54 AM
Wonder woman and Superman from the movie project A-ko would look as an adult and in my fan-fics of that very funny anime movie! But in the real world[ the DC universe] that would be a great look for power girl.

DDM
04-17-2005, 08:31 AM
I'd rather see Kevin Maquire, Adam Hughes, Phil Jiminez (sp?), or Walt Simonson pencil a Power Girl series. Frank Cho is obsessed with female breasts.

Typo Lad
04-17-2005, 08:46 AM
BTW, I think that a series drawn by Frank Cho (Liberty Medows) would sell out. Check it out http://powergirl.metrocity.com/pgcho.jpg

Oh look, it's Brandy in a Powergirl outfit.

Oh wait, the hair's blond. Must be Jen.

The man's a good artist. Wish he'd try to draw more than one female-type face.

Forefinger
04-17-2005, 10:41 AM
I'd rather see Kevin Maquire, Adam Hughes, Phil Jiminez (sp?), or Walt Simonson pencil a Power Girl series. Frank Cho is obsessed with female breasts.
You say that like it's a bad thing...

DDM
04-17-2005, 11:14 AM
You say that like it's a bad thing...

Cho should just write a porn book about a woman's mutant breasts. Get it all out in one series so he can concetrate on his art rather than women's boobs.

Forefinger
04-17-2005, 11:20 AM
I'm looking forward to this..

http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/3881_400x600.jpgJSA CLASSIFIED #1




Written by Geoff Johns; Art by Amanda Conner and Jimmy Palmiotti; Covers by Conner and Palmiotti and Adam Hughes

Spinning from the events of July's JSA #75, a highly anticipated new JSA series debuts with a story written by Geoff Johns (JSA, TEEN TITANS) with art by Amanda Conner & Jimmy Palmiotti (TWO-STEP) that spotlights everyone's favorite female juggernaut: Power Girl!

Readers have long wondered about Power Girl's origins. Is she a wizard's lost granddaughter? A refugee from the future? An orphan of Krypton? Now learn the unexpected answers in an adventure that acts as a prelude to this fall's massive crossover event that will affect the JSA for years to come! This issue will ship with two exciting covers by Amanda Conner and Jimmy Palmiotti and Adam Hughes, respectively.