Xavier Protocols

[fishtaco]

I just bought X-treme X-men #3, and Sage talked with Storm a bit about the Xavier Protocols. I have heard about them before, and I know Xavier created them and they say how to kill every mutant that Xavier ever encountered in case if they need to be killed. Can someone give me more info on this? This has potential to be an excellent story, and I want to know more. Sage made a theory that Vargas is the Xavier Protocols in human form, and that Xavier sent him after the X-treme X-men. While I doubt that Xavier tried to kill his students, can Vargas be the Protocols? Can ya guys tell me everything you know about them? thanks.

[KHNH]

Sage made a theory that Vargas is the Xavier Protocols in human form, and that Xavier sent him after the X-treme X-men. While I doubt that Xavier tried to kill his students, can Vargas be the Protocols? Can ya guys tell me everything you know about them? thanks.

I wish I could help, because I likes what I hears.... :)

[DDM]

The Xavier Protocols is data for every X-Man to discover & exploit his or her weaknesses; in effect, the protocols are a means to destroy or kill every X-Man Xavier or any other X-Man has recruited.

[Lightbend]

And ironically, they all involve a pillowcase full of doorknobs.

[The Lucky One]

Didn't Banshee destroy them at one point, during the Phalanx Covenant? Or were they saved somehow?

-D

[riotgear]

No, Banshee destroyed Xavier's Cerebro files, which was just pure data on every mutant Cerebro ever detected. And, yes, that did happen during the Phalanx Covenant (Uncanny X-Men #316-7). The Xavier Protocols weren't exposed until the Onslaught debacle, and then Bastion attempted to steal them during Operation: Zero Tolerance. Apparently, he knew about them, but wasn't able to access them.

[Huzzah!]

actual that Vargas angle should be followed up.

Cuz look at the whole story, storm left the X-men because Xavier was going to go public (accoriding to the comic), so maybe Xavier isnt very nice, as ive always seen him

[riotgear]

No, Storm left due to the Destiny Diaries.

[foxfire]

Yeah that would be an interesting story. Similar to the Batman story from JLA a few years back. But didn't Vargas already lose to Rogue? So I don't think that he could "be" the protocols. And it's not like he really exploited all of Psylocke's weaknesses, right? Just kinda jabbed her with a sword, although its been a while since I've read the story.

[fishtaco]

Yeah that would be an interesting story. Similar to the Batman story from JLA a few years back. But didn't Vargas already lose to Rogue? So I don't think that he could "be" the protocols. And it's not like he really exploited all of Psylocke's weaknesses, right? Just kinda jabbed her with a sword, although its been a while since I've read the story.
What do you mean "defeated"? Did Rogue kill Vargas, no. But she did defeat him. My best explanation is that Vargas was taken by suprise when Rogue was using herself and Psylocke's psyche in defeating Vargas. Having being careless because he thinks that Psylocke is not a threat (because she was well, dead), then Rogue took him by suprise. Thats my best explanation. With Psylocke back, chances are we are going to see Vargas very soon.

[AdyCarter]

and if you read Heroes & Martyrs #1 the whole Vargas thing just gets stranger..

[satchmo the dragon]

Also Vargas is a good guy in the Xmen for some reason in Xmen: The End.

[SOJOURN]

DDM is correct the xavier's protocols are designed to take out each of the x-men very quickly. Personally i think vargas has nothing todo with them.

In my opinion sage clearly has a grudge with xavier during x-treme x-men era, so she used psylocke's death to foster distrust between the teams.

[fishtaco]

DDM is correct the xavier's protocols are designed to take out each of the x-men very quickly. Personally i think vargas has nothing todo with them.

In my opinion sage clearly has a grudge with xavier during x-treme x-men era, so she used psylocke's death to foster distrust between the teams.
Its not very Sage like to slander someone in order to cause tension. I dont think Sage held a grudge at Xavier, I think that she is just angry with him. But she wouldnt accuse him of sending someone to kill them just to cause tension.

[Blink85]

Its not very Sage like to slander someone in order to cause tension. I dont think Sage held a grudge at Xavier, I think that she is just angry with him. But she wouldnt accuse him of sending someone to kill them just to cause tension.

I don't think she was slandering Xavier as much as she is just being cautious.

[Kid Seven]

This might not be it, but I remember a one-shot that came out in eithet '93 or '94 that has 'files' on a lot of x-characters. It's actually the first appearance of Holocaust, before hi introduction in the AoA Universe.

[Expletive Deleted]

This might not be it, but I remember a one-shot that came out in eithet '93 or '94 that has 'files' on a lot of x-characters. It's actually the first appearance of Holocaust, before hi introduction in the AoA Universe.That was STRYFE'S STRIKE FILE, if I recall correctly. It was an X-Cutioner's Song tie-in.

[Brian Cronin]

That was STRYFE'S STRIKE FILE, if I recall correctly. It was an X-Cutioner's Song tie-in.

Yeah, and it had hints to characters who literally didn't show up for three years.

Which is eithrt way lame or way cool.

I lean towards the former.

-Brian

[LoneWolf21]

Yeah, and it had hints to characters who literally didn't show up for three years.

Which is eithrt way lame or way cool.

I lean towards the former.

-Brian

I don't know, how long was it until we found out D'Ken was watching the X-Men fight Erik the Red, Havok, and Polaris?

[Brian Cronin]

Haha...or Dragonfly's whereabouts after she escaped in the early 100s! :D

-Brian

[LoneWolf21]

Haha...or Dragonfly's whereabouts after she escaped in the early 100s! :D

-Brian

Heh. Good one.

[riotgear]

Haha...or Dragonfly's whereabouts after she escaped in the early 100s! :D

-Brian

Well, she was one of Superia's Femizons during the "Superia Stratagem" that ran through Captain America.

[Christopher O]

I just bought X-treme X-men #3, and Sage talked with Storm a bit about the Xavier Protocols. I have heard about them before, and I know Xavier created them and they say how to kill every mutant that Xavier ever encountered in case if they need to be killed. Can someone give me more info on this? This has potential to be an excellent story, and I want to know more. Sage made a theory that Vargas is the Xavier Protocols in human form, and that Xavier sent him after the X-treme X-men. While I doubt that Xavier tried to kill his students, can Vargas be the Protocols? Can ya guys tell me everything you know about them? thanks.
I think you may be taking Sage's statement a bit too literally. I interpreted her statement as, basically, hype for Vargas in the typical Claremont fashion. It was a comparison, meant to be taken metaphorically--not literally. That's how I interpreted it, anyway.

[Kid Seven]

That was STRYFE'S STRIKE FILE, if I recall correctly. It was an X-Cutioner's Song tie-in.

That's what it was! Thanks Expletive. I was racking my brain trying to remember that. I do like the way Holocaust looked here. Too bad they never did anything productive with him.

[fishtaco]

I think you may be taking Sage's statement a bit too literally. I interpreted her statement as, basically, hype for Vargas in the typical Claremont fashion. It was a comparison, meant to be taken metaphorically--not literally. That's how I interpreted it, anyway.
No, you are probably right. I wouldnt look at it as hype though, but more like an interesting theory to add to the tension. I mean, this guy killed Psylocke, ya know? You want to make him scary. If he is the Xavier Protocols made of flesh, he can kill the whole team. When Storm sent Beast back home, she told him they are being hunted. It adds a lot of tension. They couldnt sleep. One of them probably had to keep a watch. Bishop would most likely do that because of the part his characterization of protecting the X-men, his heros. Remember back in X-Cutioners song, when he got pissed off at himself for not beinbg able to protect Xavier from Stryfe? But yeah, I was taking it to literally.

[streator]

the protocols were "used" to defeat cerebro at the end of "hunt for xavier", right?

[fishtaco]

the protocols were "used" to defeat cerebro at the end of "hunt for xavier", right?
How? is Cerebro an X-man?

[streator]

How? is Cerebro an X-man?
cerebro became a sentient being after bastion raided the mansion and did somethingor another to it. originally cerebro acted as xavier and created its own set of composite xmen. later cerebro's goal was to catalogue and contain all mutants. when xavier got his telepathy back from nina (nannite) he used the protocols to make cerebro think it had defeated the xmen, or something. thats what i was asking about before, as i am a little hazy on what actually happened but im pretty sure the protocols were involved.