Back In Black or Appetite For Destruction

[Dennis K]

Which is the better album?

[zombie]

I'll say Appetite, as there are more songs on it that I like.

[howyadoin]

Appetite all the way.

[Punchy]

Appetite hands down

[Alex]

Appetite, without even thinking about it.

[Core]

Appetite




.

[Jonathan Bogart]

Fine, I'll be the contrarian. Back in Black.

[Alex]

Fine, I'll be the contrarian. Back in Black.
Do you actually beleive that, or are you just saying it because no one else is?

[rac]

It's a good question though.

Back in Black is important, because it showed the band could exist after Bon Scott, and indeed, not only exist, but improve.

Having said that, Appetite rocks like nothing on earth.

[StoneGold]

Here is a longer thought on the matter. Just in terms of one song, I might take Back in Black over Appetite, just because Back in Black rocks me like no other. That said, the album has a few flaws. First of all, they put Back in Black on as track 6. I assume that means it was on the second side when in album form. How do you not lead off with a song called Back in Black? That would be like if Appetite had Welcome to the Jungle on third.

But there are also a couple of tunes on there that are forgetable, in that random AC/DC song kind of way. Shake a Leg, Let Me Put My Love Into You, Have a Drink On Me, none of them are bad, but they aren't going on the Greatest Hits collection either. Whereas if GNR really, really put out a greatest hits (not the one they did put out) it would be like 90% Appetite.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Great as BACK IN BLACK is, it's nowhere as great as APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION. And I say that even though I am more an AC/DC fan than GnR fan.

A4D wins on overall quality of songs, range and musicianship. It wins handily in all of these categories.

[JeffreyWKramer]

they put Back in Black on as track 6. I assume that means it was on the second side when in album form. How do you not lead off with a song called Back in Black? That would be like if Appetite had Welcome to the Jungle on third.

Yep, it was the opener to side 2. I don't think that's a big problem, really. They spread good material all through the album and put the really solid title track in the middle, to maintain momentum.

[SuperGodGinrai]

I'm a huge G'n'R fan, so i'll say Appetite but even people who arent big fans love the album.

Back in Black is a great album but Appetite gives me chills when I hear the first notes from Welcome to the Jungle.

[WSLer]

Appetite consistently makes the Top 20 on the various Greatest Albums of All time lists and is usually the first album from the 1980's to do so.

Back in Black always comes in much, much farther down the list.

And a better way of asking the question is this: How much cash tax free money would it take you to never listen to Appetite/Back In Black again?

In this case, never means that you wouldn't buy a copy of it or make the conscious effort to listen to one of the songs from the album. If you were in your car and a cut from the album came on, you'd have to change the station. However, there is some logic and sanity involved as well. If you were at a bar/restaurant and the song came up on the jukebox you wouldn't have to run screaming from the place.

[Phrozen]

I don't own Appetite and don't care to. Sure, Welcome to the Jungle is a good song but really GNR does nothing for me. OTOH, Back in Black in constantly on my CD rotation.

[SuperGodGinrai]

And a better way of asking the question is this: How much cash tax free money would it take you to never listen to Appetite/Back In Black again?

In this case, never means that you wouldn't buy a copy of it or make the conscious effort to listen to one of the songs from the album. If you were in your car and a cut from the album came on, you'd have to change the station. However, there is some logic and sanity involved as well. If you were at a bar/restaurant and the song came up on the jukebox you wouldn't have to run screaming from the place.
Appetite, never gonna happen. It's one of the only album i couldn't live without.
I listen to it at least twice a week.

Back in Black, i'd say 50 000. it's alot of money.

[Core]

And a better way of asking the question is this: How much cash tax free money would it take you to never listen to Appetite/Back In Black again?


Considering my current grad school poverty, not too damn much. Appetite is a great album, but I've heard that disc enough over the years to comfortably put a price on its absence. The whole album is burned into my memory anyway. Three months' rent and utilities would be a nice ballpark sum.

God, if making spare cash were that easy, I'd sell a bunch of albums off.

[Cash Lone]

Back in Black - AC/DC rules. It's the best bangin' music. Always hated Sweet Child 0' mine and paradise Chitty.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Looks at everyone. Do you even need to ask ? G'n'R kick tons of ass and pretty much brought back the wild dirty side of Hard Rock. Thier debut album remains one of the greatest ever for a reason.

Now I love AC/DC but Back In Black Is pretty much an album I love to listen to at times. I usually play thier AC/DC Live package more though. Hearing the fans erupt at times for those packages make the album great.

[Jonathan Bogart]

Do you actually beleive that, or are you just saying it because no one else is?
No, I'm as serious as I can be when making these kinds of comparisons. (Which is not very.)

Frankly, I'm not a big Guns 'N' Roses fan. Blame it on my coming of musical age post-Nirvana. (Actually, come to think of it, I like Nevermind about as much as Appetite ... that is, I enjoy, as much as I can, the omnipresent radio fodder and couldn't care less about the rest.) I'm not much of an AC/DC fan, either, but I like "Back in Black," "You Shook Me All Night Long," and "Hell's Bells" better than "Welcome to the Jungle," "Paradise City," and "Sweet Child of Mine." Whatsisname has a better rock 'n' roll voice than Axl.

And to answer Phrozen's question, I'll take ten bucks for both albums (neither of which I own anymore). I could use some gas.

[ghostrider666]

Come on, this aint close, Appetite.

[zebop]

Why couldn't you make it easy like choosing between Physical Graffiti or Metallica's "Black Album"?

I'm going with Back In Black. A lesser band would have called it a day after Bon Scott kicked. Though the "A" side of the album (yes, I have it in vinyl, you whippersnappers!) is only "okay", the "B" side kicks beaucoup ass and takes no prisoners.

I love "Appetite for Destruction." It's about as perfect as debut albums get. But if I were loading up my CD player, it would be a close second to "Back In Black."

But don't touch my copy of London Calling or somebody's gonna get hurt! :D

[Spike-X]

Appetite for me.

[Alex]

I'd stop listening to back in black for a pack of smokes personaly, I can't listen to a whole ACDC album without stabbing myself in the ears, it starts to grate on me.

[Dreadstar]

While I have to admit that Appetite for Destruction is probably the better album, it's collecting dust on my CD rack. Whereas Back in Black gets consideration every time I'm looking to play some real rock n roll.

[Arrjay]

Neither of these records excites me to any large degree but if forced to endure only one of them for eternity I'd have to go with Appetite For Destruction simply because I'd much rather listen to GN'R than AD/DC.

Ciao.

[Catman3]

It's a close call for me but I'm going with Back In Black.
I played that sucker over & over when it first came out and I did the same with Appetite or Destruction but I'm tired of Sweet Child Of Mine and Paradise City.

[Hiromi]

I'm going with Back in Black, Appetite was longer but also had more songs that I didn't care for, Whereas BiB I can listen to from the beginning to end with no trouble. Hell's Bells still has one of my favorite opening riffs of any song ever.

[discostu]

The musical ignorance on this site just sickens me! I should really stay out of the music forums, apparently the inmates are running the asylum around here. IDIOTS! Appetite For Destruction doesn't even come close to Back In Black. Are you people tone deaf? Guns and Roses was over rated and over produced.

[howyadoin]

The musical ignorance on this site just sickens me!And the musical arrogance in that post just sickens me.

[Alex]

And the musical arrogance in that post just sickens me.
He's going to post a thread about how god isn't real because he read it in a book now.
You mean bastard.

[Spike-X]

I should really stay out of the music forums

No argument here.

[SuperGodGinrai]

The musical ignorance on this site just sickens me! I should really stay out of the music forums, apparently the inmates are running the asylum around here.

Good idea, stay out of here or next time will throw you in the hole... with the other screws

[ZombieHavoc]

it might have been more of a contest had the thread been appetite vs. highway to hell, or appetite vs. let there be rock.

against back in black, though, it's a no brainer. appetite hands down.

back in black is good, but it is by no means ac/dc's best album. there will never be a front man like scott. he was rock n roll.

[Ned Leeds]

Appetite For Destruction. I don't think there is a bad song on the whole album

[Dennis K]

The musical ignorance on this site just sickens me! I should really stay out of the music forums, apparently the inmates are running the asylum around here. IDIOTS! Appetite For Destruction doesn't even come close to Back In Black. Are you people tone deaf? Guns and Roses was over rated and over produced.


psssssssst..... Back In Black was produced by Mutt Lange. Do you really want to talk about "over produced"?

[Adam Crocker]

The musical ignorance on this site just sickens me! I should really stay out of the music forums, apparently the inmates are running the asylum around here. IDIOTS! Appetite For Destruction doesn't even come close to Back In Black. Are you people tone deaf? Guns and Roses was over rated and over produced.

Tell me, what do you possibly hope to accomplish by insulting people based on their musical tastes?

[Dreadstar]

Tell me, what do you possibly hope to accomplish by insulting people based on their musical tastes?

Become a writer for The Rolling Stone?

[Adam Crocker]

Become a writer for The Rolling Stone?

Really? You mean he's just like me, except I'm angling for Pitchfork? :eek:

[Dennis K]

Really? You mean he's just like me, except I'm angling for Pitchfork? :eek:


I thought you were Q bound!

[Ottmeister X]

Back In Black.

Personally, this topic will be somewhat one-sided due to what I have noticed as there being a lot of GNR fans at CBR. My guess is a lot of it is youth-driven, that many of the GNR fans were just getting into hard rock when Appetite came out. I realize that's not going to be the case with everyone, but just my guess.

For me, I first started liking hard rock around the time Back In Black came out and still loved hard rock when Appetite came out. To me, Back In Black is better considering the death of Bon Scott. For AC/DC to overcome that and release one of the greatest hard rock albums is a monumental achievement. You're talking about a band of guys who are absolutely devastated by their band leader and one of their best friends dying. Dead as in dead. A band that hires a singer who seems to fit the bill, but was a unknown factor; who I believe had some major difficulty with writer's block on BIB because of the nervousness of being Bon's replacement. A band who was building chemistry and confidence to only have it shattered. I'm not a big AC/DC fan (god, I hate that Thunderstruck song), but Back In Black is just an incredible album.

GNR didn't have to fight these battles with Appetite. Nothing against them because there's no doubt that Appetite is one of the greatest debuts ever. Not one of my favs, but I can recognize it for what it's worth. However, Back In Black to me has three songs that have stood the test of time with the music masses: Back In Black, Shook Me All Night Long, and Hells Bells. Appetite For Destruction has one song: Welcome To The Jungle.

I'm sure that last sentence will garner some ill responses, but y'know what, it's true. Before anyone starts rattling off song names, there really are only two other songs that can be mentioned: Paradise City and Sweet Child O' Mine. Personally, Paradise City is probably my favorite GNR song, but it doesn't hold enough weight to rank with the three aforementioned AC/DC songs, nor is it a song that the music masses remember well. A case could be made for Sweet Child. But, damn, that song is just plain ol' annoying. For its annoyance and being overplayed to death on MTV, the song just isn't going to hold up to the test of time. A GNR fan may request to hear it, but that's about it.

Back In Black, easily.

[Adam Crocker]

I thought you were Q bound!

Damn, you're right Bad Santa. I need to work more on my complex metaphors and trying to sound clever. Quick to the thesaurus!

[Alex]

Tell me, what do you possibly hope to accomplish by insulting people based on their musical tastes?
The same thing we hope to accomplish?
But it's hilarious when we do it, he didn't even mention the music.

[kmeyers]

Apetit.

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[Alex]

Apetit.

.
APETIT RULES!
WOOO!

[leonaozaki]

Damn, you're right Bad Santa. I need to work more on my complex metaphors and trying to sound clever. Quick to the thesaurus!

Man, don't bag on Q. Q used to be good. Now of course they are dead to me. You don't want to go there.

When Q was good nobody could rip on a one-star album like Q. Mojo sometimes rises to their level of informed snark but it's just not the same.

rob

[leonaozaki]

Back In Black.

GNR didn't have to fight these battles with Appetite. Nothing against them because there's no doubt that Appetite is one of the greatest debuts ever. Not one of my favs, but I can recognize it for what it's worth. However, Back In Black to me has three songs that have stood the test of time with the music masses: Back In Black, Shook Me All Night Long, and Hells Bells. Appetite For Destruction has one song: Welcome To The Jungle.



I thought the thread was about what we liked better, not what the 'masses' liked. And if you think the 'masses' will request "Jungle" more often than "Sweet Child"...um. Well, personally I think you're wrong. When APPETITE first hit it big on MTV the "Sweet Child" video ATE the network alive...and we all know who watches MTV.

Anyway, song for song APPETITE is probably the stronger album, although BACK IN BLACK does have some amazing -songs- on it. I'm going with APPETITE if only for that opening riff to "Mr Brownstone."

rob

[WSLer]

Are you people tone deaf? Guns and Roses was over rated and over produced.

The majority of the songs on Appetite are from the first take of the song. IIRC, the producer said that the most takes they had of any song was 6.

Hardly what I'd call overproduced.

[Deathstroke]

Appetite For Destruction is probably the better album, but I think Back in Black is more important.

Not just for the band, but for the metal genre in general. At least for the time period it was released in.

[Reptisaurus!]

Apetit.

.

Well, that settles it.

Having thought long and hard about this, carefully wearing the merits of two albums I consider very, very good and just about equal in their goodness, and coming to no definite answer....

Heee. You said "tit."

G'Nf'nR win.

[cactusmaac]

Appetite's just stronger all round.

AC\DC are pretty good but 90% of their songs are about fucking and that starts getting monotonous after a while.

[Spike-X]

Only 90%? What are the other 10% about then?

[Jonathan Bogart]

Only 90%? What are the other 10% about then?
Rawk 'n' Roll.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Appetite For Destruction is probably the better album, but I think Back in Black is more important.

Not just for the band, but for the metal genre in general. At least for the time period it was released in.



I'm gonna debate that. To metal fans AC/DC's Back In Black maybe more Important. But Guns n Roses kicked the doors down and brought Hard Rock back to Its dirty side after years of being away!

Hell the entire albums nearly made Into everyones heads at this point. Guns n Roses just did an album that sadly they'll never top no matter how awesome and how great the rest of thier library of work Is.


And I think the Use Your Illusion albums was pretty much the best damn work that I've seen Guns n Roses do. Thats my belief.

[Ottmeister X]

I'm gonna debate that. To metal fans AC/DC's Back In Black maybe more Important. But Guns n Roses kicked the doors down and brought Hard Rock back to Its dirty side after years of being away!

Actually, hard rock was already around and kicking just fine. GNR was at the end of the run for hard rock until grunge came along. Well I guess not the "end" of hard rock, but it definitely took a hiatus for awhile during the flannel shirt period of music.

[Ronald Bryan]

Appetite. It is the better album by a more versatile band. Much as I love AC/DC, they do have the same sound for every song on the album.

[mgs]

GnR, but this may have to do more with the variety than the quality, there are simply more songs on Destruction, personally, lately, I've been liking GnR Lies more than AfD, while I rate BiB as one of the most listened to AC/DC albums...anyways, I like them both a lot. :)


Back In Black
1. Hells Bells
2. Shoot to Thrill
3. What Do You Do for Money Honey
4. Given the Dog a Bone
5. Let Me Put My Love into You
6. Back in Black
7. You Shook Me All Night Long
8. Have a Drink on Me
9. Shake a Leg
10. Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution

Appetite For Destruction
1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr. Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12. Rocket Queen

[SUPERECWFAN1]

GnR, but this may have to do more with the variety than the quality, there are simply more songs on Destruction, personally, lately, I've been liking GnR Lies more than AfD, while I rate BiB as one of the most listened to AC/DC albums...anyways, I like them both a lot. :)


Back In Black
1. Hells Bells
2. Shoot to Thrill
3. What Do You Do for Money Honey
4. Given the Dog a Bone
5. Let Me Put My Love into You
6. Back in Black
7. You Shook Me All Night Long
8. Have a Drink on Me
9. Shake a Leg
10. Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution

Appetite For Destruction
1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr. Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12. Rocket Queen



Ok thats both albums. The ones In bold are the singles and some of the most played songs you'll hear on Radio at times.

Back In Black
1. Hells Bells
2. Shoot to Thrill
3. What Do You Do for Money Honey
4. Given the Dog a Bone
5. Let Me Put My Love into You
6. Back in Black
7. You Shook Me All Night Long
8. Have a Drink on Me
9. Shake a Leg
10. Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution


Thats 5 at the most that are eithor singles or are played a lot on the Radio at times.

Appetite For Destruction
1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr. Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12. Rocket Queen


Theres 5 to 6 on here that eithor became singles or are played no stop on the radio. Even though Anything Goes and Your Crazy are played a lot too. But I never counted them.

[Ottmeister X]

Ok thats both albums. The ones In bold are the singles and some of the most played songs you'll hear on Radio at times.

Back In Black
1. Hells Bells
2. Shoot to Thrill
3. What Do You Do for Money Honey
4. Given the Dog a Bone
5. Let Me Put My Love into You
6. Back in Black
7. You Shook Me All Night Long
8. Have a Drink on Me
9. Shake a Leg
10. Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution


Thats 5 at the most that are eithor singles or are played a lot on the Radio at times.

Appetite For Destruction
1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr. Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12. Rocket Queen


Theres 5 to 6 on here that eithor became singles or are played no stop on the radio. Even though Anything Goes and Your Crazy are played a lot too. But I never counted them.

My Michelle on the radio? I guess it depends on where you live. Whereever you are, sure wish I got the same radio feed because stations in my area suck. I would imagine in most areas Have A Drink On Me gets played more than My Michelle.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

My Michelle on the radio? I guess it depends on where you live. Whereever you are, sure wish I got the same radio feed because stations in my area suck. I would imagine in most areas Have A Drink On Me gets played more than My Michelle.


Same with some playing Given The Dog A Bone and Anything Goes. In Charlotte I heard My Michelle so many times I lost count. Where I live they'll play Welcome To The Jungle or Paradise City.

[Dennis K]

Ok thats both albums. The ones In bold are the singles and some of the most played songs you'll hear on Radio at times.

Back In Black
1. Hells Bells
2. Shoot to Thrill
3. What Do You Do for Money Honey
4. Given the Dog a Bone
5. Let Me Put My Love into You
6. Back in Black
7. You Shook Me All Night Long
8. Have a Drink on Me
9. Shake a Leg
10. Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution


Thats 5 at the most that are eithor singles or are played a lot on the Radio at times.

Appetite For Destruction
1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr. Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12. Rocket Queen


Theres 5 to 6 on here that eithor became singles or are played no stop on the radio. Even though Anything Goes and Your Crazy are played a lot too. But I never counted them.

I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that some of those GnR songs are being played on the radio, the way Axl tosses around the F word in them. If they are being played, it's an edited version, so it doesn't really count (to me).

[Hiromi]

Ok thats both albums. The ones In bold are the singles and some of the most played songs you'll hear on Radio at times.

Back In Black
1. Hells Bells
2. Shoot to Thrill
3. What Do You Do for Money Honey
4. Given the Dog a Bone
5. Let Me Put My Love into You
6. Back in Black
7. You Shook Me All Night Long
8. Have a Drink on Me
9. Shake a Leg
10. Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution


Thats 5 at the most that are eithor singles or are played a lot on the Radio at times.

Appetite For Destruction
1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr. Brownstone
6. Paradise City
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11. Anything Goes
12. Rocket Queen



That's the way it Looks in Atlanta, and songs getting overplayed on the Radio isn't neccasarily a good thing.

[iwarrior]

AFD is a good album but is overrated. BIB is superior and more influential.

[HomerJay]

BACK IN BLACK is one of the best hard rock/metal albums ever, and APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION is arguably the best debut album for a group ever.
AC/DC is my favorite band of all-time, but I have to give the nod to APPETITE because of the climate in which it was released. It came out in the heyday of hairbands and reminded the world what REAL rock 'n roll should sound like. Some say SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT killed the hairband era, but APPETITE kicked the door open so bands like Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Nirvana, and Pearl Jam could walk through.

In my opinion, no other band comes close to AC/DC's longevity and consistent quality (other than U2, the Stones or maybe Aerosmith), but if Axl wasn't such a headcase, today we'd be mentioning G'nR in the same breath as The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, and The Who.