View Full Version : Who is the Scarlet Witch's true love?
Norrin Radd
03-06-2005, 10:43 PM
What's with this girl? Can't she just pick someone and be done with it?
Paradox
03-07-2005, 12:27 AM
The Vision, of course.
The whole Wonder Man thing seemed to be more about HIM loving HER than the other way around.
Cut her some slack...she was lonely.
Gladiator X
03-07-2005, 04:41 AM
Hawkeye
I always thought Clint and Wanda shoulda hooked up.
Rich L
03-07-2005, 04:44 AM
The Vision, of course.
The whole Wonder Man thing seemed to be more about HIM loving HER than the other way around.
Yeah but the Vision she fell in love with had Wondy's brain patterns; he basically was Simon Williams so the true love has to be Simon.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr
03-07-2005, 06:54 AM
Yeah but the Vision she fell in love with had Wondy's brain patterns; he basically was Simon Williams so the true love has to be Simon.
You know, I never understood what this had to do with anything. "Brain patterns," whatever that means, obviously don't duplicate personality, memories, emotions, etc. The Vision has never behaved even remotely similarly to Simon, even though they do share the same taste in females. As Vizh said way back in Avengers 160 (I think): "I am unique. I am the Vision. And thus, I am content."
Kid Seven
03-07-2005, 08:24 AM
Yeah, cut the robot some slack everybody. It's like saying you can love one twin if you love the other because they look the same.
And who's been voting for Quicksilver?
Venomous
03-07-2005, 08:54 AM
Cap would propably be a better fit for Wanda
Yeah, cut the robot some slack everybody. It's like saying you can love one twin if you love the other because they look the same.
And who's been voting for Quicksilver?
Ultimates readers?
comic_lover
03-07-2005, 08:59 AM
What's with this girl? Can't she just pick someone and be done with it? Wonder Man because the Vision is just an android based on Simon's brain patterns.That pretty much says it all.
Kid Seven
03-07-2005, 09:39 AM
Ultimates readers?
Gah! Ack! No, I actually like Ultimates. But still...come on, that's just wrong. Wrong in a way that's interesting, but not wrong in a way that you vote for. Come on people!
Titan Slade
03-07-2005, 09:40 AM
I voted Quicksilver, because of the Ultimate versions of Wanda and Pietro. It is the most interesting relationship Wanda has ever had as of yet.
StoneGold
03-07-2005, 09:53 AM
No love for Toad?
Dermie
03-07-2005, 10:02 AM
You know, I never understood what this had to do with anything. "Brain patterns," whatever that means, obviously don't duplicate personality, memories, emotions, etc. The Vision has never behaved even remotely similarly to Simon, even though they do share the same taste in females. As Vizh said way back in Avengers 160 (I think): "I am unique. I am the Vision. And thus, I am content."
I agree that Vision and Simon are unique individuals, but the shared brain patterns HAVE given them more than just the same taste in women. They have also expressed having some of the same interests; Vision has shared Simon's affection for his mother, etc. There ARE elements of Simon which transfered over to Vision (which impacted Vision's sense of self-identity for a long time).
However, as was made clear a while ago, although they started out with the same raw material, they developed in different directions and are now different and unique individuals. Yes, they still have stuff in common--but that is true for just about any pair of siblings.
aelio
03-07-2005, 10:10 AM
I voted for Pietro. You know how freaky those Maximoffs can be. Besides, looking at both of their histories, their relationship is the only one that even comes close to being remotely normal. That's right; incest is normal compared to the love lives of Pietro and Wanda.
Shellhead
03-07-2005, 11:14 AM
It was smart for Wanda to marry Vision in a double ceremony with Mantis and "Swordsman." If Pietro complained too much about her marrying an android, she could retort, "Well, at least I didn't marry a glowing green corpse reanimated by a sentient alien plant."
EDIT: Judging by her involvement with Simon, apparently Wanda has since become curious about dead guys.
Norrin Radd
03-07-2005, 11:14 AM
Seven votes for Pietro.
Now this is just getting freaky.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr
03-07-2005, 12:10 PM
I agree that Vision and Simon are unique individuals, but the shared brain patterns HAVE given them more than just the same taste in women. They have also expressed having some of the same interests; Vision has shared Simon's affection for his mother, etc. There ARE elements of Simon which transfered over to Vision (which impacted Vision's sense of self-identity for a long time).
However, as was made clear a while ago, although they started out with the same raw material, they developed in different directions and are now different and unique individuals. Yes, they still have stuff in common--but that is true for just about any pair of siblings.
I agree. Obviously, they share more than the same taste in women (like an interest in jazz, for example). (I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well on the message board) My point was as you state above: while they may share a certain "starting point," they have never been portrayed as having similar personalities and therefore the hypothesis that Vizh is just a poor man's Simon is flawed from the start. There's really nothing about the two individuals that would lead one to conclude that a woman interested in one of them would automatically be interested in the other.
Shellhead
03-07-2005, 12:37 PM
I hope the chaos-tainted Scarlet Witch doesn't hook up with Simon's brother, the Grim Reaper. Ugh.
Dr. Hfuhruhurr
03-07-2005, 12:48 PM
I hope the chaos-tainted Scarlet Witch doesn't hook up with Simon's brother, the Grim Reaper. Ugh.
Well, that would meet your criteria for Wanda's fascination with dead guys. Or at least "guys that aren't alive." :D
Kirk G
03-07-2005, 01:14 PM
No love for Toad?
Ewwww.... that's worse than Pietro!!!!
(Personally, though, I got to wonder if her interest in the android is silimar to Tasha Yar's interest in full-functioning Data in Star Trek...
Like maybe that Supersolder has something else to offer that we haven't heard about yet...
Why else do you think that they called him "Wonder Man..." :rolleyes:
Red State Cap
03-07-2005, 11:02 PM
Whatever else this poll accomplishes, at least it demonstrates that there is little fan support (here at least) for continuing the whatever-it-was with Cap.
Unfortunately it looks like she is being "passed around" the Avengers. Take a number, and Wanda will get to you eventually. That doesn't speak well of Wanda's character, nor of whomever is "next in line," so to speak.
RSC
Quicksilver used to be an Avenger, too. :eek:
Paradox
03-07-2005, 11:26 PM
Red State Cap points in the wrong direction:
Whatever else this poll accomplishes, at least it demonstrates that there is little fan support (here at least) for continuing the whatever-it-was with Cap.
Unfortunately it looks like she is being "passed around" the Avengers.
Nah, that's Tigra's job. :evilsmile
Dermie
03-07-2005, 11:34 PM
Whatever else this poll accomplishes, at least it demonstrates that there is little fan support (here at least) for continuing the whatever-it-was with Cap.
I dunno if I agree with that--I'd say it is more a matter of how the question was worded "Who is her true love". The Wanda/Cap relationship really didn't have time to develop into anything, so it would be hard for people to say he is her "true love", when compared to her husband, or the man who was brought back from the dead by her love.
Personally, I would be interested to see more of the Cap/Wanda thing (if Wanda were ever to become sane again), but I can't honestly say he is her "true love" at this point in time.
Unfortunately it looks like she is being "passed around" the Avengers. Take a number, and Wanda will get to you eventually. That doesn't speak well of Wanda's character, nor of whomever is "next in line," so to speak.
Well, these revolving relationships happen for several of the Avengers, not just Wanda.
HAWKEYE has been with Mockingbird, Black Widow and the Wasp...and has made passes at Wanda and Spider-Woman
HANK PYM has dated Wasp, Tigra and Firebird
TIGRA has been with Wonder Man, Hank Pym, Moon Knight, Starfox and Tony Stark
VISION was with Wanda and Mantis, and went on a date with Warbird.
WASP has been with Hank Pym, Tony Stark and Hawkeye.
The list goes on.
Quicksilver used to be an Avenger, too. :eek:
For the sake of our sanity, let's not go there!! ;)
Red State Cap
03-07-2005, 11:44 PM
Point take about others dating within the Avengers, HOWEVER...
In Wanda's case, there is now the factor of mental illness to consider. With this in mind, her dating several members looks less like "a bit of healthy fun on the side" and more like an unsettling symptom of mental instability. Do you see what I mean?
RSC
mattbib
03-07-2005, 11:47 PM
Definitely Vision, but I wouldn't mind a Wanda/Cap relationship to redevelop someday.
Brian R
03-07-2005, 11:52 PM
HAWKEYE has been with Mockingbird, Black Widow and the Wasp...and has made passes at Wanda and Spider-Woman
Well, Clint is a manwhore, I dont think he should be the benchmark for what is too much dating.
Tenebrae
03-08-2005, 12:06 AM
Wanda's relationships seem to have generally been motivated by love rather than sex, which would seperate her somewhat from the other serial dating Avengers. She's no Tigra or Hawkeye.
She loved the Vision, and then she fell in love with the intrinsically linked Wonder Man. Wherever a relationship with Captain America would have developed we may not ever find out now, but they were a nice pairing. Vision remains king of her heart, though, I reckon.
Dermie
03-08-2005, 08:29 AM
Well, Clint is a manwhore, I dont think he should be the benchmark for what is too much dating.
Wanda's relationships seem to have generally been motivated by love rather than sex, which would seperate her somewhat from the other serial dating Avengers. She's no Tigra or Hawkeye.
Actually, I'd say that description better fits someone like Tony Stark or Starfox. Clint tends to be the type to fall in love very deeply, very quickly and once he is in a relationship he is very committed. So although he has been with several women, they have pretty much all been very serious relationships rather than sexual flings.
Kirk G
03-08-2005, 11:40 AM
Point take about others dating within the Avengers, HOWEVER...
In Wanda's case, there is now the factor of mental illness to consider. With this in mind, her dating several members looks less like "a bit of healthy fun on the side" and more like an unsettling symptom of mental instability. Do you see what I mean?
RSC
Now that's really interesting...
Who would have considered that "loving" an android would be a symptom of mental illness?
Or calling a loved one back from the dead?
I always though both Wanda and Pietro were a little on the obsessive side, but this puts her love-obsession with the two kids in a bit more interesting light.
PS: At the end of the most recent What If Jessica Drew had joined the avengers, who was the woman in the bride's gown marrying Cap? Was that Wanda or Jessica? Which was the point being made? Jessica tipped off the Avengers to Wanda's illness when she overheard her talking to "herself" in her room, but then who is in the payoff shot??? I was not clear on this.
Somebody clarify please! :confused:
Now that's really interesting...
Who would have considered that "loving" an android would be a symptom of mental illness?
Or calling a loved one back from the dead?
I always though both Wanda and Pietro were a little on the obsessive side, but this puts her love-obsession with the two kids in a bit more interesting light.
PS: At the end of the most recent What If Jessica Drew had joined the avengers, who was the woman in the bride's gown marrying Cap? Was that Wanda or Jessica? Which was the point being made? Jessica tipped off the Avengers to Wanda's illness when she overheard her talking to "herself" in her room, but then who is in the payoff shot??? I was not clear on this.
Somebody clarify please! :confused:
It was What If Jessica Jones Had Joined The Avengers? BTW. Drew has been a member before, and is one now.
Dermie
03-08-2005, 12:27 PM
It was What If Jessica Jones Had Joined The Avengers? BTW. Drew has been a member before, and is one now.
Jessica Drew has NOT been a member before...but you're right, she is one now.
Who would have considered that "loving" an android would be a symptom of mental illness?
Or calling a loved one back from the dead?
Actually, MANY people over the years have said that Wanda must have mental or emotional problems to marry an android...but ironically enough, that relationship is NOT an indication of mental problems--because her breakdown didn't reall start until after her marriage to Vision failed. She was actually healthy when she was with him.
PS: At the end of the most recent What If Jessica Drew had joined the avengers, who was the woman in the bride's gown marrying Cap? Was that Wanda or Jessica? Which was the point being made? Jessica tipped off the Avengers to Wanda's illness when she overheard her talking to "herself" in her room, but then who is in the payoff shot??? I was not clear on this.
The woman marrying Cap was Jessica--you see them getting married on the very next page after seeing them make out.
Red State Cap
03-09-2005, 12:22 AM
What I am saying is that people will "re-interpret" her past relationships in light of the fact that she now suffers from severe mental problems. One can reasonably ask, were the seeds of illness always there? Were they affecting her life even going back 30 (real-time) years?
During her relationships with the Vision and Simon there was no overt evidence of mental instability, but people will reexamine those relationships. For example, the issue of marrying something that is not human and arguably not alive. Whatever has been said in Avengers by various characters, I consider Vision to be a toaster. A very sophisticated, walking, talking toaster, but a toaster nonetheless.
Then, picking up a relationship with the Vision's "brother" after the first relationship ended. That is a bit morbid, at least.
And, regarding whatever the heck was going on with Cap, she most certainly WAS off her rocker at that stage.
RSC
P.S. It seems that Quicksilver is running a surprisingly strong second place...
Brian R
03-09-2005, 12:54 AM
Quicksilver is now second behind Vision... I love you twisted f@#%ers!
Neolucifer
03-09-2005, 10:35 AM
at the risk of being beaten to death , screw Vision !!!And resume the storyline about her and cap !!
Dr. Hfuhruhurr
03-09-2005, 02:02 PM
at the risk of being beaten to death , screw Vision !!!And resume the storyline about her and cap !!
OK, come here, Neo:
*beats Neolucifer about the head and shoulders*
Now, then, that wasn't so bad, was it? At least you didn't vote for Quicksilver...
Giganto
03-09-2005, 02:06 PM
You people are sick!!! Quicksilver?!?!?
The Vision all the way!!!
Jessica Drew has NOT been a member before...but you're right, she is one now.
The woman marrying Cap was Jessica--you see them getting married on the very next page after seeing them make out.
Oops. :o Must have been thinking of Spider Woman II. But I was sure Jess had been in the West Coast team... :confused:
Dermie
03-09-2005, 09:53 PM
Oops. :o Must have been thinking of Spider Woman II. But I was sure Jess had been in the West Coast team... :confused:
Nope, Julia had been in the West Coast team. Jessica never even appeared in the West Coast book (aside from a brief cameo in the original miniseries).
She did make a few guest appearances with the east coast team, and had been offered membership once, but turned it down.
Nope, Julia had been in the West Coast team. Jessica never even appeared in the West Coast book (aside from a brief cameo in the original miniseries).
She did make a few guest appearances with the east coast team, and had been offered membership once, but turned it down.
It's a little weird that Bendis wrote her as a bit resentful of them but has her jumping on board immediately. Of course, she is a mole...
streator
03-10-2005, 09:02 PM
wanda is truly in love with wolverine.
Dark Soul # 7
03-10-2005, 10:42 PM
Who the *bleep* has been voting for Quicksilver!?
If this is the reaction from the Ultimates then something is VERY wrong!
Risque
03-10-2005, 10:51 PM
Wasn't there some comment in a Wonder Man issue where Wondy is having a crisis, not knowing whether he is human or simply ions thinking they are human and he asks Wanda because she has the habit of falling in love with fake men. Or am I imagining this?
Personally I think Wanda needs to resolve her daddy issues before she can have a good relationship with any man.
Red State Cap
03-11-2005, 12:11 AM
An interesting line to explore. I know I'll tick off some people and ignore the "opinions" of characters that know Wanda and Vision, but the Vision isn't alive. It's an anatomically-correct computer. Yes, Wanda might have "married" it, but to me that makes her more than a little suspect, mentally. And yes, I did think that "back when," not just now. Simon, at least, was once human whatever he is now.
The interesting "relationship" with Steve I thought was a mentally desperate woman grasping at straws, and using her powers to make it possible. I believe that Steve would never have initiated this relationship. Not that he would be naturally averse to it, but they've been teammates for so long, most of it while Wanda was "married" to the Vision, that I don't think it would have entered his mind. Still, once it was in progress, he seemed to be EXTREMELY serious about it. One can ask, was his own mind entirely responsible for this? Or did Wanda, whose "crush" on Steve goes back 40 (realtime) years, use her considerable powers to influence his emotions?
Another topic to consider is that of children. The event that sent her over the edge is the "evaporation" of her childen (from the Vision). Simon, I think all can agree, probably could not father children with a human female -- unless a writer chose to ignore biology and make it so. One can therefore ask, is the "relationship" with Steve the result of Wanda's desire to be with someone who a) she did have a serious attraction for going way back, but more importantly, b) with whom she could clearly have natural children to replace those lost?
Regards,
RSC
An interesting line to explore. I know I'll tick off some people and ignore the "opinions" of characters that know Wanda and Vision, but the Vision isn't alive. It's an anatomically-correct computer. Yes, Wanda might have "married" it, but to me that makes her more than a little suspect, mentally. And yes, I did think that "back when," not just now. Simon, at least, was once human whatever he is now.
The interesting "relationship" with Steve I thought was a mentally desperate woman grasping at straws, and using her powers to make it possible. I believe that Steve would never have initiated this relationship. Not that he would be naturally averse to it, but they've been teammates for so long, most of it while Wanda was "married" to the Vision, that I don't think it would have entered his mind. Still, once it was in progress, he seemed to be EXTREMELY serious about it. One can ask, was his own mind entirely responsible for this? Or did Wanda, whose "crush" on Steve goes back 40 (realtime) years, use her considerable powers to influence his emotions?
Another topic to consider is that of children. The event that sent her over the edge is the "evaporation" of her childen (from the Vision). Simon, I think all can agree, probably could not father children with a human female -- unless a writer chose to ignore biology and make it so. One can therefore ask, is the "relationship" with Steve the result of Wanda's desire to be with someone who a) she did have a serious attraction for going way back, but more importantly, b) with whom she could clearly have natural children to replace those lost?
Regards,
RSC
Vision's status depends on how you define "alive". Being sentient tends to support the idea that he is, but of course he isn't in the strict sense.
kcekada
03-11-2005, 10:05 AM
As a kid, I never gave the Vision/Scarlet Witch thing much thought. When Wonder Man came back, I did think that Simon and Wanda had much more chemistry then she had with Vision.
As an adult, I look at Vision as nothing more than a sophisticated vibrator. He's a freaking machine, people! It's very possible that we'll see androids in our lifetimes. Can you imagine how sad people would have to be to actually marry one?
Quicksilver may be prejudiced, but if I had a sister that married an intelligent vacuum cleaner, I'd disassociate myself from her.
Typo Lad
03-11-2005, 10:40 AM
(Personally, though, I got to wonder if her interest in the android is silimar to Tasha Yar's interest in full-functioning Data in Star Trek...
See, I bet Vision didn't even come with the nessecary attatchments. I bet she had to ahve them added on.
"So, Henry...I was thinking...can we use Thor as a model?"
Typo Lad
03-11-2005, 10:43 AM
And, regarding whatever the heck was going on with Cap, she most certainly WAS off her rocker at that stage.
Actually, the Cap thing dates way, way back. When the Avengers was just her, Cap, Hawkeye and Quicksilver, she was occasionally seen mooning over Cap. They just decided to run with it now.
Kirk G
03-11-2005, 11:50 AM
Wasn't there some comment in a Wonder Man issue where Wondy is having a crisis, not knowing whether he is human or simply ions thinking they are human and he asks Wanda because she has the habit of falling in love with fake men. Or am I imagining this?
Personally I think Wanda needs to resolve her daddy issues before she can have a good relationship with any man.
Sounds like a "house of M" plot if I ever heard one...
Little girl gets in trouble, calls daddy to come rescue her...
he carries her away to a fairy castle where he cares for her
until she's all better....
(anybody read Edipus complex, or is this the Electra complex?)
Red State Cap
03-11-2005, 01:17 PM
Mort, yes I know that Wanda's crush on Steve goes way, way, way back. My point was, by the time she acted on it she was clearly insane or going insane.
RSC
Dermie
03-11-2005, 01:37 PM
See, I bet Vision didn't even come with the nessecary attatchments. I bet she had to ahve them added on.
"So, Henry...I was thinking...can we use Thor as a model?"
The Vision was anatomically correct (at least until Byrne got his hands on him). Vision was constructed from the original Human Torch, who was designed to replicate a human male in every way.
Byrne destroyed Vision's genetalia...but he eventually got them back, and went on to have more sexual relationships.
Kirk G
03-11-2005, 02:21 PM
Mort, yes I know that Wanda's crush on Steve goes way, way, way back. My point was, by the time she acted on it she was clearly insane or going insane.
RSC
I don't know about that.
When we first meet her in the Avengers, she's impressed by him, but held back by her brother... (another vote for Pietro, I suppose!) :eek:
Neolucifer
03-11-2005, 02:52 PM
Mort, yes I know that Wanda's crush on Steve goes way, way, way back. My point was, by the time she acted on it she was clearly insane or going insane.
Come on guys !! let something good result from the insanity !! Let her give Steve some love !! Or do we want the robot diamondback again ? :D
Red State Cap
03-11-2005, 10:41 PM
Jeeze, the "Diamondback LMD" was a freaking travesty. They spend years together and never hook up, and then that fool Kirkman writes Cap into the sack with her LMD. ARGHHH!
I'm surprised Nick Fury, and everyone else in the know, isn't giving Cap more than a little grief over this. "So, Cap, that unit wasn't "fully tested" yet. Can you give us some feedback on..."
RSC
Typo Lad
03-12-2005, 04:29 PM
The Vision was anatomically correct (at least until Byrne got his hands on him). Vision was constructed from the original Human Torch, who was designed to replicate a human male in every way.
Byrne destroyed Vision's genetalia...but he eventually got them back, and went on to have more sexual relationships.
Um, no he wasn't. He was constructed from spare parts. Jim Hammond is up and about.
Dermie
03-12-2005, 05:07 PM
Um, no he wasn't. He was constructed from spare parts. Jim Hammond is up and about.
*sigh* Vision was constructed from the body of the original Human Torch. The reason that Hammond and Vision both exist is because there was a temporal duplicate of the original Torch's body. One body was taken by Ultron and turned into the Vision; the other body stayed as it was, and has since been reactivated as Jim Hammond.
For further details, see the Avengers Forever miniseries.
ghostrider666
03-12-2005, 05:25 PM
With the option to vote for Quicksilver, I couldnt resist. Besides, mutants hold themselves to a different standard than mere humans.
Blink85
03-12-2005, 08:12 PM
I went with Wonderman, I just love that cover when they were in Kang's custody.
Typo Lad
03-12-2005, 11:30 PM
*sigh* Vision was constructed from the body of the original Human Torch. The reason that Hammond and Vision both exist is because there was a temporal duplicate of the original Torch's body. One body was taken by Ultron and turned into the Vision; the other body stayed as it was, and has since been reactivated as Jim Hammond.
For further details, see the Avengers Forever miniseries.
Oh, did they retcon that?
GOODIE!
Byrne's AWC run had some of the wrost, sloppiest retcons I've ever seen.
Karl J. Barnes
03-12-2005, 11:51 PM
I picked... ME! MEmememememeee!
Why yes....I haven't been getting enough sleep. Why do you ask?
Dermie
03-13-2005, 08:31 PM
Oh, did they retcon that?
GOODIE!
Byrne's AWC run had some of the wrost, sloppiest retcons I've ever seen.
Agreed. There was some stuff I really enjoyed in Byrne's run...but there were some big screw ups too. The upside of this retcon is that not only is the Vision's proper origin restored--but we also still get to keep Hammond! Best of both worlds! :)
Kirk G
03-18-2005, 01:10 PM
Bendis....it's Bendis, man!
Shellhead
03-18-2005, 01:30 PM
Byrne destroyed Vision's genetalia...but he eventually got them back, and went on to have more sexual relationships.
To quote King Missile, "Even though sometimes it's a pain in the ass, I like having a detachable penis."
Kirk G
03-18-2005, 01:34 PM
To quote King Missile, "Even though sometimes it's a pain in the ass, I like having a detachable penis."
Data...it's Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation back again!
jade_nova
03-21-2005, 08:54 AM
He is six feet tall, shiny, made out of metal, and requires D cell batteries.
Kirk G
03-21-2005, 07:15 PM
:( I went with Wonderman, I just love that cover when they were in Kang's custody.
Which one? When was that? Which issue # and volume, please? :(
tk421atpost
03-21-2005, 11:36 PM
Hawkeye
I always thought Clint and Wanda shoulda hooked up.
I agree, even though I loved Hawk & Mock.
Red State Cap
03-22-2005, 12:03 AM
Clint and Wanda? You're kidding?! I can't honestly think of another Avenger that I could see Wanda with, other than Vision/Simon and perhaps Cap -- but I'm not really a fan of that one.
RSC
Dermie
03-22-2005, 07:52 AM
Clint and Wanda? You're kidding?! I can't honestly think of another Avenger that I could see Wanda with, other than Vision/Simon and perhaps Cap -- but I'm not really a fan of that one.
RSC
Clint and Wanda is one of the closest and longest male/female friendships in comics that never turned sexual...and Clint was in love with Wanda for a long time. That is why a lot of people think they'd be good together.
Personally, I kinda like the fact that they just stayed friends...although I;d rather have had Clint and Wanda than that stupid Clint/Wasp affair. :rolleyes:
Sandy Hausler
03-22-2005, 12:28 PM
Hasn't found him yet. Maybe it's me. :D
Sandy Hausler
My own vote? Vision is Wanda's true love.
I really wish Bryne hadn't mucked with that. :(
Iceman4v
03-22-2005, 09:40 PM
She has a kid with Nightcrawler. . .
Kirk G
03-23-2005, 01:05 PM
OK, will someone please interpret the ending of the recent "What If" Jessica joined the Avengers story? Who was it that Cap was marrying... was it Wanda? Was it Jessica? Was it jan? Just what was the point, after Jessica tipped them off that Wanda was slipping...
Typo Lad
03-23-2005, 01:05 PM
Jessica. It was Jessica.
Kirk G
03-23-2005, 07:11 PM
I could have sworn that it was Wanda he was marrying... that Jessica saved the day and allowed the hint in Cap's book and Cap & the Falcon to materialize as reality. Cap and Wanda together in peace and matromony. Or didn't I get it right?
Typo Lad
03-24-2005, 04:57 AM
I could have sworn that it was Wanda he was marrying... that Jessica saved the day and allowed the hint in Cap's book and Cap & the Falcon to materialize as reality. Cap and Wanda together in peace and matromony. Or didn't I get it right?
Nope.
Re-read it, Hoss.
Avi Green
03-24-2005, 05:16 AM
I'd say Captain America, due to the fact that I would've been quite intrigued if they had explored the idea, but they didn't, which rendered that cover for Captain America and the Falcon one of many pointless coverscans produced. :mad: It could have something to do with the fear TPTB may have of taking chances, and they certainly didn't give the idea of pairing Cap and Scarlet together even that much.
The romance that developed between Wanda and Vision in the early 70s when Roy Thomas was the writer was interesting, but I think that Wanda and Wonder Man may have worked better together. And one sure thing, the idea that Wanda could succeed in reviving Simon with her loving feelings was even more clever and charming than I thought. :)
BuccaneerBruce
03-24-2005, 06:21 AM
[QUOTE= Judging by her involvement with Simon, apparently Wanda has since become curious about dead guys.[/QUOTE]
There's hope for Hawkeye yet!
Kirk G
03-24-2005, 12:18 PM
There's hope for Hawkeye yet!
hahahah, Yeah, and if you read the original Avengers #16-21 or so, you'll see that she might have been attracted to him... if not for his brash attitude.... and distracting Captain America with his perfect body and squeeky clean attitudes.... :rolleyes:
...and a clingy, possessive brother always running interference and "protecting" her.... :D
Ken Ashcroft
03-24-2005, 04:38 PM
Didn't she have a thing for Hercules when he first joined the team? ..... Or maybe it was the other way round? :)
Kirk G
03-24-2005, 06:19 PM
Didn't she have a thing for Hercules when he first joined the team? ..... Or maybe it was the other way round? :)
I'll check my Marvel Masterworks Avengers 31-40 volume when I get home tonight. He arrived in #38 with a red cover, as I recall... or was that #39?
Anyway, he sure looked like Steve Reeves on the cover. I suspect it was that Wanda thought he was "godly"...but dumb.... and he was probably just attracted to the beautiful mortal, if only to goad her protective brother...
but I'll check tonight when I get home from work.
PPS: I still have one extra still sealed copy of this Marvel masterworks Variant dust cover available for anyone desperate enough to make me an offer.... hint, hint....
Kirk G
03-25-2005, 07:03 PM
Alright. I've just finished skimming Avengers #38-39-40 from Volume One, and although Wanda makes a few comments about feeling sorry for Hercules...a godly individual banished to earth.... she gives no voice to feeling attracted to him. In fact, she collapses at the start of #40, so given their leave of absence, Wanda and Pietro only are on the team with Herc for about two issues, and one of them is as villian. Only in issue #39 do they fight along side, and had Herc not returned from a night out singing in a coffee bar, to rescue the captured Avengers from the Mad Thinkers' trio of clowns.... er, make that henchmen.... the Avengers would have been history and ended.
So, I guess the answer is NO, she never professed a "thing" for Hercules, at least, not during these issues...and after his year on Earth (pronounced in Issue #38) he departs after climbing back to Olympus and taking on Tyrant (or somebody named similar) in about issue #49-51. I thought he was gone as of #50 Until almost issue 1oo rolls around, and an out of costume Hawkeye, walking back to NYC comes across Herc in a sideshow circus....
At least, that's how I read it.
Corrections anyone???
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