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Swiz
03-06-2005, 07:21 AM
spider-man 2 was just released on DVD. I was reading this Wizard magazine and it said for the villian it could be hobgoblin/greengoblin or sandman now i wasnt very happy because this might be the last movie that sam does. For everyones favor they should do venom and carnage although it will take alot of money for special effects. Who do you think should the next villian be for spider-man 3?

jcp011c
03-06-2005, 07:43 AM
I think that in SM 2 they introduced Dr. Conners as a human, so I think they are trying to set up getting the Lizard in the 3rd movie as well, which I'm all for that. There's so many villians needed to be done: Mysterio, Kraven, Lizard, Rhino, Hobgoblin or Carnage; but the one that I do think absolutely must be done is Venom. Maybe they will have Lizard and Hobgoblin in this one, and then choose to do a 4th movie with Venon in it after all....we can only hope.

Swiz
03-06-2005, 11:10 AM
that is true about lizard and dr. conners another awsome idea they could do but i dont think it would happen is if they had the sinester six with like electro sandman etc. that would be awsome there better be more spiderman movies

mgs
03-06-2005, 11:13 AM
don't you people read the CBR main page, I think they announced that it would be venom. I think that may stand up. *sad it is not sandman*

austin316gb
03-06-2005, 02:26 PM
Here is my pitch:

Spider-Man 3

Spider-Man battles Lizard and Green-goblin (Harry with cameo thoughout film of Norman) .

Sub plot 1: John jameson (remember he has been introduced in spider-man 2) going into space and finding a strange black substance (a la Spider-Man:TAS). Spider-Man is getting snotted tying to juggle work/study/marriage/green goblin and lizard all at once. Jameson's re-entry goes wrong and Spidey saves the day but is consumed by strange black ooze.

Costume change to black, increase in powers -Spider-man beats crap out of villians and all is well.

Sub Plot 2: A bugle reporter/photographer is (remember JJJ mentions to peter about a photographer has gone awol which is why peter is asked to cover the engagement party - brock not mentioned by name but the intimation is their)

Film end (with spider-man in black costume facilitating much new merchandice!!)

Spider-Man 4 (NB Superherohype has confirmed Sam is up for doing a fourth)

Film starts with a reporter/photographer called Eddie Brock trying to prove to JJJ that Peter is Spider-Man and ends up being sacked when peter stages some sort of scene that he is not spider-man (not sure how they'd do that but hey i'm not writing the film! - perhaps in desperation the costume acts on its own without peter so it just looks like spider-man is doing something however peter is stood watching thinking "hey thats my suit - and it's alive!!) Suit then takes over brock and hay presto Spider-Man Vs Venom, Spider-Man back in red and blue costume (again facilitaing much new merchandise)


This isn't something I've come up with on the spare of the moment
, if you search back thorugh my posts you'll see a similar thread to this when i posted almost exactly the same thing - so if the 3rd and 4th film actually turn out like this I'd better see my name in the credits!!

For me the key to this is to end the 3rd film with spider-man in the black costume. Not only will it set the financial aspect of the film with much more possible revenue from new mechandise (as their really are a limit to the number of essentailly the same Spider-Man figure you can buy, however change the costume and you open up the market again anew) but also, God forbid, if they did decide not to make a fourth (and the only reason for that I can see is if the principles decide they don't want to do it again) it gives some kind of conclusion to a trilogy of films. These films have always been about spider-man growing up and it could be seen that his final step into fully fledged superhero is the change of costome symbolising his change from teenager/boy into a man. Now although that won't apease anybody with even the faintest knowledge of Spidey cannon for the average person it is a good enough conclusion to the story.

For me i'd like to see the third film tie in to the fourth as tightly as the second plays into the third. I'd have heavy referances to eddie brock, and i'd have the black costume change spider-man into a much more vicious fighter and i'd like to see him loose control with Mary Jane possibly leaving him as the new spider-man is scaring her. But i'd end the film with spider-man swinging towards the screen, he's moving quickly as he gets closer to the camera, the camera pans up the spider symbol on his chest, pans further up to the mask. Then the mask transforms into the face of a monster, it's the face of Venom!! with a horredous scream the mouth opens revealing a long red tong that lashes around the camera, which seems to travel into the blackness that is it's throat and the words "The End".

Bishop_Proudstar
03-06-2005, 05:59 PM
don't you people read the CBR main page, I think they announced that it would be venom. I think that may stand up. *sad it is not sandman*


Yep.

I think the producer aan maybe Marvel chose Venom because The Lizard's origin would be too similar to The Hulk (in the movies)...

The Lizard breaks free...

He probably won't speak much...

He'll destroy property, police cars, and armored personel carriers..

Too similar to The Hulk..

static
03-12-2005, 08:14 AM
i wanna see The Rock as Eddie Brock and venom. in the comics eddie was a bodybuilder, and arrogant- I just saw Be Cool and he was awesome in it!

1HELLBOY
03-12-2005, 03:24 PM
I'm completely ecstatic that there is a 99% chance that the villain is gonna be Venom

I also read the interview in the new Wizard magazine on Sam Raimi, they asked him about the new villain, he said that Marvel is keeping it under tight wraps...but Sam kept saying that the villain and Marvel will make a "BIG SPLASH"....does that sound a little familiar..."BIG SPLASH"

Nightcrawler
03-12-2005, 03:33 PM
I think it's going to be either Venom or Electro. Or both. How cool would that be?

StrawNilla
03-13-2005, 05:13 PM
i wanna see The Rock as Eddie Brock and venom. in the comics eddie was a bodybuilder, and arrogant- I just saw Be Cool and he was awesome in it!
Yeah, I can imagine the Rock strutting into JJJ's office after he has already gained control of the symbiote. JJJ barks some order at him and orders him to leave instantly afterward, the Rock raises the People's Eyebrow in response and becomes Venom....with JJJ whimpering in a corner as a result.

The Joker
03-15-2005, 06:48 AM
Nice.

I would like to see VENOM. But Raimi admittedly isnt a big fan of of Spidey villians outside of the silver age era. Wonder if this is going to affect the idea of Venom actually being in a Raimi helmed Spider-Man flick.

We'll see I guess.

Ned Leeds
03-15-2005, 09:52 AM
If the villian is Venom, I imagine they willl use John Jameson. He has a reason to hate Peter and they could say that he picked up the alien while on the moon.

ace hole
03-15-2005, 10:18 AM
i still think it'll be the lizard. im a big fan of the cronenberg version of the fly, and i hope it looks like that.

Grant
03-15-2005, 11:03 AM
I'm hoping for Mysterio. Lizard would be cool but after following two mad scientist/father figures for Peter it might be too much.

Electro would be pretty cool too.

Flawless P
03-15-2005, 01:16 PM
I will say it as I have a hundread times.... Venom... the only worthy Spiderman villian besides Morlun and GG.

Titanium
03-15-2005, 02:26 PM
The Lizard as the main villain, while Harry Osborn is going insane during the movie and is actually tormenting Parker throughout the movie.

Conners slowly turns into the Lizard during the movie. First he's happy and trying to do good when he successfully regrows his arm, then finds out he's becoming more and more reptilian and he tries to cure himself, until his mind changes and he decides everyone has to be like him and starts preparing to turn everyone into a lizardman. With his lab assistant Peter Parker trying to stop him as Spider-Man.

Harry doesn't just automatically become the GG2. He'd be afraid to use the formula and grows a split personality. The second persona being what he thought his father wanted him to be and that eventually takes the formula and goes out to kill Spider-Man with his bare hands instead of just tormenting him, keeping him from forgetting the danger he's created, like Good Harry wants to. Evil harry bursts in on Spider-Man just as he's fighting the Lizard.


The final fight would be Spider-Man vs Green Goblin 2 vs the Lizard. Conner's mind completely gone, making him a brutal monster attacking both Spidey and Goby Jr.

Mister Mets
03-15-2005, 03:06 PM
I'd shoot Spider-Man 3 & 4 back to back as a finale to the Spider-Man Movies.

Spider-Man 3
Alien Costume
Hobgoblin (Harry Osborn tells his psychiatrist Bart Hamilton about his father being the Green Goblin, and Bart sells the technology to corrupt industrialist Roderick Kingsley)
Harry Osborn would become the second Green Goblin in the last few minutes.

Spider-Man 4
Venom (He buries Spider-Man in a Kraven's Last Hunt type story.)
The Lizard (He takes over Vermin's role in Kraven's Last Hunt.)
Green Goblin 2 (MJ seeks Harry's help in finding a missing Peter.)

As a huge fan of the Lizard, I wouldn't mind him being the Spider-Man 2 villain because that would make him a lot more recognizable, and I wouldn't mind seeing a lot of Lizard stories released simoltaneously.

Grant
03-15-2005, 08:25 PM
BTW why is everyone is convinced Venom is going to be in it? I haven't heard strong evidence pointing to any villan other then Green Goblin II.

The Joker
03-15-2005, 09:28 PM
I think generally everyone is praying it'll be VENOM. Myself included. Although I'm really not convinced that it's gonna happen. Atleast not in Spider-Man 3.

Lizard & GG2 would be more logical. But stranger things have happened. :)

Cody H
03-15-2005, 09:42 PM
I'm putting all my money on Venom for Spider-Man 3. By the way, I love Cyberman's idea of pulling a Kraven's Last Hunt type storyline with Venom playing the part of Kraven.

Swiz
03-16-2005, 04:28 AM
I also saw that Swarm, that bee guy, was a topic of the Spider-man. It was in Wizards Movie issue. Also Sam already picked the villian but they arn't saying who. Just to let you all know

Sir_Hawkeye
03-16-2005, 03:36 PM
I left the theatre thinking in my mind wow they will have the sinister six for sure next movie no doubt. I thought about the whole movie and if you notice there is a slight cameo of Eddie Brock in one scene. Then they had a Goblin at the end set up for sure thats no doubt there. Also during the movie they had Maxwell Dillion mentioned in one scene. And then Curt Connors. And of course Doc Ock was not really scene killed and that could certainlly drive him crazy again so he could be a villian. ALso if you beat Spider-Man 2 for GBA they have an unlockable pic of him getting up and hinting at his sanity. Also a character that was sorta there which I think has no six potential was WereWOlf (Jameson). And Sandman could be easily set up.

Taltos
03-16-2005, 03:48 PM
Here is my pitch:

Spider-Man 3

Spider-Man battles Lizard and Green-goblin (Harry with cameo thoughout film of Norman) .

Sub plot 1: John jameson (remember he has been introduced in spider-man 2) going into space and finding a strange black substance (a la Spider-Man:TAS). Spider-Man is getting snotted tying to juggle work/study/marriage/green goblin and lizard all at once. Jameson's re-entry goes wrong and Spidey saves the day but is consumed by strange black ooze.

Costume change to black, increase in powers -Spider-man beats crap out of villians and all is well.

Sub Plot 2: A bugle reporter/photographer is (remember JJJ mentions to peter about a photographer has gone awol which is why peter is asked to cover the engagement party - brock not mentioned by name but the intimation is their)

Film end (with spider-man in black costume facilitating much new merchandice!!)

Spider-Man 4 (NB Superherohype has confirmed Sam is up for doing a fourth)

Film starts with a reporter/photographer called Eddie Brock trying to prove to JJJ that Peter is Spider-Man and ends up being sacked when peter stages some sort of scene that he is not spider-man (not sure how they'd do that but hey i'm not writing the film! - perhaps in desperation the costume acts on its own without peter so it just looks like spider-man is doing something however peter is stood watching thinking "hey thats my suit - and it's alive!!) Suit then takes over brock and hay presto Spider-Man Vs Venom, Spider-Man back in red and blue costume (again facilitaing much new merchandise)


This isn't something I've come up with on the spare of the moment
, if you search back thorugh my posts you'll see a similar thread to this when i posted almost exactly the same thing - so if the 3rd and 4th film actually turn out like this I'd better see my name in the credits!!

For me the key to this is to end the 3rd film with spider-man in the black costume. Not only will it set the financial aspect of the film with much more possible revenue from new mechandise (as their really are a limit to the number of essentailly the same Spider-Man figure you can buy, however change the costume and you open up the market again anew) but also, God forbid, if they did decide not to make a fourth (and the only reason for that I can see is if the principles decide they don't want to do it again) it gives some kind of conclusion to a trilogy of films. These films have always been about spider-man growing up and it could be seen that his final step into fully fledged superhero is the change of costome symbolising his change from teenager/boy into a man. Now although that won't apease anybody with even the faintest knowledge of Spidey cannon for the average person it is a good enough conclusion to the story.

For me i'd like to see the third film tie in to the fourth as tightly as the second plays into the third. I'd have heavy referances to eddie brock, and i'd have the black costume change spider-man into a much more vicious fighter and i'd like to see him loose control with Mary Jane possibly leaving him as the new spider-man is scaring her. But i'd end the film with spider-man swinging towards the screen, he's moving quickly as he gets closer to the camera, the camera pans up the spider symbol on his chest, pans further up to the mask. Then the mask transforms into the face of a monster, it's the face of Venom!! with a horredous scream the mouth opens revealing a long red tong that lashes around the camera, which seems to travel into the blackness that is it's throat and the words "The End".

I like and if venom is played by the rock I will like it alot more. But I wouldnt put the hobgoblin in it, I really wish Harry had just died in the second movie.

Swiz
03-16-2005, 04:42 PM
I thought about the whole movie and if you notice there is a slight cameo of Eddie Brock in one scene.

Where was the cameo appearence was there really a part?

Sir_Hawkeye
03-17-2005, 10:41 AM
Where was the cameo appearence was there really a part?



I am not sure where it was but I think it was when Peter was in the office.

Reptisaurus!
03-17-2005, 12:21 PM
spider-man 2 was just released on DVD. I was reading this Wizard magazine and it said for the villian it could be hobgoblin/greengoblin or sandman now i wasnt very happy because this might be the last movie that sam does. For everyones favor they should do venom and carnage...

*Snip*

Except for those of us who think that Carnage is the stupidest idea for a character ever in the history of fiction....

<----- (Is obviously rootin' for Stegron. But, failing that, let's see his l'il cousin the Lizard.)

Artemis1
03-17-2005, 12:26 PM
Venom: The biggest thought right now, but I know Sam hates the Spidey duplicate. So there is a good chance by the description, but not perfect.
Chance: 7/10

Green Goblin 2: Judging by the ending of "Spider-Man 2", Harry is another big thought of being the villain. But the producers want something new for the third movie. Good chance, though.
Chance: 6/10

Lizard: Basically the fan beg of the possible "Spider-Man 3" villains, the Lizard would look cool, is new, and has amazing character plots. Sadly, "The Hulk" pretty much took that spot.
Chance: 4/10

Manwolf: Now here's where the movie could be interesting. JJJ already has the anger thing down, and he is planning another expedition to the moon, so there is some good thought to that. The downside of being too unreconized is a major block in his way to being the movie's villain.
Chance: 5/10

Hobgoblin: The ultimate extended plot on the villain thought, Roderick would be interesting. Sadly, he has the same problems as GG2 has to get to the big screen times 2.
Chance: 3/10

Black Cat: There have been reports of people auditioning for a female villain. This gives Felicia's role in the movie a close hit. The problem is that the Black Cat just starred in the Spider-Man 2 video game.
Chance: 5/10

Carnage: Sam and the producers wouldn't waste their time.
Chance: 1/10

Grant
03-17-2005, 11:32 PM
Venom: The biggest thought right now, but I know Sam hates the Spidey duplicate. So there is a good chance by the description, but not perfect.
Chance: 7/10

I see no chance to be honest. The studio seems to want him but the studio seems to want to keep Raimi happy too.

Green Goblin 2: Judging by the ending of "Spider-Man 2", Harry is another big thought of being the villain. But the producers want something new for the third movie. Good chance, though.
Chance: 6/10

I think it's almost certain. However wishful thinking would have Harry not don the costume but at the end of the movie have Doc Ocks body in a lab somewhere.

Lizard: Basically the fan beg of the possible "Spider-Man 3" villains, the Lizard would look cool, is new, and has amazing character plots. Sadly, "The Hulk" pretty much took that spot.
Chance: 4/10

I think it's the fact Spidey already fought two mad scientist/father figures in the last two movies. I'm hoping if Raimi does Spider-man 4 he does the Lizard with Dylan Baker.

Black Cat: There have been reports of people auditioning for a female villain. This gives Felicia's role in the movie a close hit. The problem is that the Black Cat just starred in the Spider-Man 2 video game.
Chance: 5/10

Why is that a problem? Black Cat was almost in the 2nd movie.

I say Black Cat to make things difficult for Peter and MJ's love life and Green Goblin II.

And once again no love for Stegron.

Artemis1
03-18-2005, 12:18 PM
Stegron: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chance: 1/10

SPIMAN
11-26-2005, 05:21 PM
best idea of them all for spider man 3Here is my pitch:

Spider-Man 3

Spider-Man battles Lizard and Green-goblin (Harry with cameo thoughout film of Norman) .

Sub plot 1: John jameson (remember he has been introduced in spider-man 2) going into space and finding a strange black substance (a la Spider-Man:TAS). Spider-Man is getting snotted tying to juggle work/study/marriage/green goblin and lizard all at once. Jameson's re-entry goes wrong and Spidey saves the day but is consumed by strange black ooze.

Costume change to black, increase in powers -Spider-man beats crap out of villians and all is well.

Sub Plot 2: A bugle reporter/photographer is (remember JJJ mentions to peter about a photographer has gone awol which is why peter is asked to cover the engagement party - brock not mentioned by name but the intimation is their)

Film end (with spider-man in black costume facilitating much new merchandice!!)

Spider-Man 4 (NB Superherohype has confirmed Sam is up for doing a fourth)

Film starts with a reporter/photographer called Eddie Brock trying to prove to JJJ that Peter is Spider-Man and ends up being sacked when peter stages some sort of scene that he is not spider-man (not sure how they'd do that but hey i'm not writing the film! - perhaps in desperation the costume acts on its own without peter so it just looks like spider-man is doing something however peter is stood watching thinking "hey thats my suit - and it's alive!!) Suit then takes over brock and hay presto Spider-Man Vs Venom, Spider-Man back in red and blue costume (again facilitaing much new merchandise)


This isn't something I've come up with on the spare of the moment
, if you search back thorugh my posts you'll see a similar thread to this when i posted almost exactly the same thing - so if the 3rd and 4th film actually turn out like this I'd better see my name in the credits!!

For me the key to this is to end the 3rd film with spider-man in the black costume. Not only will it set the financial aspect of the film with much more possible revenue from new mechandise (as their really are a limit to the number of essentailly the same Spider-Man figure you can buy, however change the costume and you open up the market again anew) but also, God forbid, if they did decide not to make a fourth (and the only reason for that I can see is if the principles decide they don't want to do it again) it gives some kind of conclusion to a trilogy of films. These films have always been about spider-man growing up and it could be seen that his final step into fully fledged superhero is the change of costome symbolising his change from teenager/boy into a man. Now although that won't apease anybody with even the faintest knowledge of Spidey cannon for the average person it is a good enough conclusion to the story.

For me i'd like to see the third film tie in to the fourth as tightly as the second plays into the third. I'd have heavy referances to eddie brock, and i'd have the black costume change spider-man into a much more vicious fighter and i'd like to see him loose control with Mary Jane possibly leaving him as the new spider-man is scaring her. But i'd end the film with spider-man swinging towards the screen, he's moving quickly as he gets closer to the camera, the camera pans up the spider symbol on his chest, pans further up to the mask. Then the mask transforms into the face of a monster, it's the face of Venom!! with a horredous scream the mouth opens revealing a long red tong that lashes around the camera, which seems to travel into the blackness that is it's throat and the words "The End".

Dark Soul # 7
11-27-2005, 04:15 AM
We´ve all seen Thomas Haden Church in his Sandman costume and I think that Thoper Grace will either be Venom or Electro.

Nightwing88
11-28-2005, 05:26 AM
I would absolutely love to se Eddie Brock/Venom, I think that would be a kick ass Spider-Man film!

Venom
11-28-2005, 06:36 AM
The wait is nearly over people. I've got a feeling that they'll announce the second Spider-Man villian very, very soon. Deep down tough I already know who it is. (My name hint, hint.)

Chinchalinchin
11-28-2005, 09:48 AM
Am I the only who thinks Venom is going to suck? He's never been that great of a villian, in my honest opinion.

I personally think they should devote most of 3 to establishing Brock as a character and only give him the symbiote towards the end, so we've been set up for another sequel and Brock is actually a developed character by that time. I'm fine with the one villian per movie as long as they do it right. I'm not so hot on Flint Marko/Sandman, since he doesn't have the same level of badassery as the Green Goblin or Doctor Octopus, but it can work if done right.

SpartanX
11-28-2005, 10:24 AM
I hope the two villains are Electro and Sandman. But i want a new actor surprisingly introduced that can act as Brock and i also want the Lizard introduced and maybe JJJr. goin to space, therefore bringing the symbiote.

WildChild
11-29-2005, 03:34 PM
Topher will be Venom.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/