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The Fury
03-04-2005, 08:24 AM
What is your view of the Hardest Boss or sub-boss from any game?


My vote goes to Ruby Weapon of Final Fantasy VII, first time I went up against it, I lost in about 5 seconds. And not until last year (with help from an GAme Guide) I beat it, and it still wasn't easy.

Voncaster
03-04-2005, 10:59 AM
I'm going to go with Mike Tyson from the NES Classic Punch Out. One connected punch would put you down.

DrDoomX
03-04-2005, 05:04 PM
Chaos...the original final fantasy

Endless
03-04-2005, 07:25 PM
The hardest final boss was Zeromus in Final Fantasy IV. I didn't feel like leveling up anymore, and fought him with his full power (without that attack weakened).

The hardest hidden boss is Prinny Baal from Disgaea with all his equipment on. Go ahead, and try it; he'll make your entire powerful group look like nothing

DrewTheXenocide
03-04-2005, 09:55 PM
This is pretty sad admitting this but, since sixth grade, I could never beat the Twin Cells in MegaMan X6.

Sanagi
03-04-2005, 10:05 PM
Judge Doom in the NES version of Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

This is pretty sad admitting this but, since sixth grade, I could never beat the Twin Cells in MegaMan X6.
I find it sad that you played MegaMan X6, does that count?

Valmore
03-04-2005, 10:15 PM
Whichever team you face in the Super Bowl in Tecmo Super Bowl. Since the game decides to make their offense unstoppable and your offense completely stoppable.

Flawless P
03-05-2005, 01:03 PM
It's not so bad that you didnt beat X6 i still cant beat X3 or even X I try but I fail and I sorta gave up. The saddest part of X3 is that I have the Gold armor and everything.

DrewTheXenocide
03-05-2005, 06:33 PM
I find it sad that you played MegaMan X6, does that count?

I think I suffer from Charles Bronsonism, considering I played until the sorta-kinda end of X7.

It's not so bad that you didnt beat X6 i still cant beat X3 or even X I try but I fail and I sorta gave up. The saddest part of X3 is that I have the Gold armor and everything.

It took me quite a while to do those two. I had to use save states on a certain-kind-of-program that we're not really supposed to mention 'round here. *wink**wink*, *nudge**nudge*, *sneeze**sneeze*, *achooachoo*.

Flawless P
03-06-2005, 03:48 PM
I think I suffer from Charles Bronsonism, considering I played until the sorta-kinda end of X7.



It took me quite a while to do those two. I had to use save states on a certain-kind-of-program that we're not really supposed to mention 'round here. *wink**wink*, *nudge**nudge*, *sneeze**sneeze*, *achooachoo*.
Me too what a conincidence.....

Saitou Hajime
03-09-2005, 06:38 PM
Hiruko in Shinobi's Super mode, particularly if you're playing as Joe Musashi.

sir_snikt'alot
03-11-2005, 10:27 AM
zero and igniz from king of fighters 2001,they are so cheap!!

ultimecia from final fantasy 8,having to fight her,then griever,then ultimecia/griever,then ultimecia who constantly uses magic that puts your hit points at 1,i never beat her.

also ruby weapon and genova at the end of final fantasy 7,couldnt beat either of them as they killed me within a second.

Sanagi
03-11-2005, 01:27 PM
ultimecia from final fantasy 8,having to fight her,then griever,then ultimecia/griever,then ultimecia who constantly uses magic that puts your hit points at 1,i never beat her
The key is to abuse your limit breaks as much as possible. Get into aura and make sure to cure "curse" status. It's a great time to use Rinoa's Angel Wing with all her offensive spells removed except Meteor(so she'll cast Meteor every turn). Holy Wars are great if you have them(refine from the Gilgamesh card).

Ray192
03-11-2005, 02:15 PM
Just try beating Demogorgon and Melissan in BG2:Throne of Bhaal, with the developer difficulty mod (forgot the name) installed.

Wesley Dodds
03-11-2005, 02:58 PM
Ultimecia? Ultimecia's easy -- just a question of junctioning well.

blackdragon6
03-11-2005, 03:34 PM
kintaro mk2

motaro mk3 cheap bastard

igor KI

ganon from ocarina of time.but gets easier after awhile

mystique from xmen legends,yet magneto is relatively easier then her!

xodus from mutant apocalypse

gyrorg from majoras mask

mazaar from jet force gemini

the last boss on mace the dark ages

the last boss on perfect dark

el gigante from re4

iron maiden from RE4


and this is just the tip of the ice burg

Wesley Dodds
03-11-2005, 06:40 PM
mystique from xmen legends,yet magneto is relatively easier then her!

...

You're not serious.

Wesley Dodds
03-11-2005, 06:40 PM
Kingdom Hearts, Ansem. I didn't level my characters up enough -- it took me hours to defeat his second form.

SuperSaiyaMan12
03-11-2005, 06:45 PM
Gyorg from Majora's Mask.

sir_snikt'alot
03-11-2005, 07:53 PM
Ultimecia? Ultimecia's easy -- just a question of junctioning well.

i got to the last part easy enough,but when she slowed my party down (consisting of squal,zell and irvine) and started using apocolypse,i was down to just squal,and aura wouldnt work so ishe killed me,my stas were like 99999 hit points but still she beat me!

Wesley Dodds
03-11-2005, 08:00 PM
i got to the last part easy enough,but when she slowed my party down (consisting of squal,zell and irvine) and started using apocolypse,i was down to just squal,and aura wouldnt work so ishe killed me,my stas were like 99999 hit points but still she beat me!

Well, try junctioning a powerful spell like aura to your speed. Use a rocket engine to give one of your GFs auto-haste. Junction curaga to your health. After that, you shouldn't have any problems. You should be able to keep at least two party members alive in the final part of the battle. Here's another trick -- junction 100 Ultima to your elemental defend and see what happens.

Oh, and -- when Ultimecia starts to talk, don't bother with renzokuken. It means she has a fixed number of hits before she dies. Damage doesn't come into it. Just hit her with your normal attack.

...I don't get it. How can you get to the final boss of a game and not fight until you win?

Anyway, enjoy the ending.

Endless
03-11-2005, 08:13 PM
i got to the last part easy enough,but when she slowed my party down (consisting of squal,zell and irvine) and started using apocolypse,i was down to just squal,and aura wouldnt work so ishe killed me,my stas were like 99999 hit points but still she beat me!

I don't think I've ever lost to final Ultimecia, and granted my stats were awesome as well (oh, and I beat Omega Weapon). Not that I really remember the game well, but couldn't you just use haste when she slowed you down? Megaelixirs also help when you're down to 1 hp.

DrewTheXenocide
03-11-2005, 08:44 PM
Kingdom Hearts, Ansem. I didn't level my characters up enough -- it took me hours to defeat his second form.

I actually found the giant-vagina sized Billy Zane to be a bit too easy. He was a pushover compared to the other mandatory bosses such as

Ansem infused Rikku

sir_snikt'alot
03-11-2005, 08:50 PM
I don't think I've ever lost to final Ultimecia, and granted my stats were awesome as well (oh, and I beat Omega Weapon). Not that I really remember the game well, but couldn't you just use haste when she slowed you down? Megaelixirs also help when you're down to 1 hp.

the funny thing is i beat omega weapon in about 20 seconds,only to restart the game because i didnt steal eden off of him.

Endless
03-11-2005, 09:02 PM
the funny thing is i beat omega weapon in about 20 seconds,only to restart the game because i didnt steal eden off of him.

Actually, the one who had Eden was Ultima Weapon. Omega weapon was the ultra-tough boss that you have the option to fight in the final dungeon area. I think what you had to do was ring the bell, then make it to the chapel area in like 20 seconds or something to fight him.

SuperSaiyaMan12
03-11-2005, 09:08 PM
Has anyone fought Gyorg? He is the hardest boss in Majora's Mask!

Wesley Dodds
03-11-2005, 09:16 PM
He was a pushover compared to the other mandatory bosses such as

Yes, that boss is hard -- my first playthrough I found him very tough. On my second playthrough I beat him first try, though (a very close victory).

Chou Blaster
03-12-2005, 10:16 AM
el gigante from re4

iron maiden from RE4


and this is just the tip of the ice burg


Um dude your not serious are you?

El Gigante is EASY. When parasite is exposed. Shoot at it, magnum or rifle.

Goes down EASY.

The Iron Maidens: Besides infra red scope. Shoot down leg and while on it's back, just nail it with hig hpowered weapon/epxloding greande or soemthing.

Besides thatt: Some of those bastards are dodgable.

Shem the Penman
03-12-2005, 10:32 AM
I didn't have much trouble with Ultimecia. But the final boss fight at the end of Wild Arms 3 was annoying enough to make me just quit the game: it's really ten fights, one after another, with no breaks to heal up in between. Cheap and irritating.

blackdragon6
03-12-2005, 12:13 PM
Has anyone fought Gyorg? He is the hardest boss in Majora's Mask!
yeah i put him in my list ,i was stuck on him fo about a week

blackdragon6
03-12-2005, 12:18 PM
Um dude your not serious are you?

El Gigante is EASY. When parasite is exposed. Shoot at it, magnum or rifle.

Goes down EASY.

The Iron Maidens: Besides infra red scope. Shoot down leg and while on it's back, just nail it with hig hpowered weapon/epxloding greande or soemthing.

Besides thatt: Some of those bastards are dodgable.the first encountrer for me was hard,but i beat bitorez mendez rather easily wich shocked me,same with salazaar.el gigante is just anoying and not really fun to fight.same with the iron maidens.it doesen't mean i didn't find them easier to beat down the line.

sir_snikt'alot
03-12-2005, 04:05 PM
Actually, the one who had Eden was Ultima Weapon. Omega weapon was the ultra-tough boss that you have the option to fight in the final dungeon area. I think what you had to do was ring the bell, then make it to the chapel area in like 20 seconds or something to fight him.

yeah that was the guy i beat really easy,i just get theyre names mixed up because they are so similar looking.

i remember having to run to the location,it was frustating.

The Fury
03-12-2005, 04:26 PM
i remember having to run to the location,it was frustating.
There is any easier way. Use the 2 team thing to locate one team (the team you'll fight the battle with) on the green glowy thing outside the chapel, ahev your other team pull the rope use the green thing to swap teams.

I never did beat him, never liked the game enough to do it.

I Must Break U
03-14-2005, 04:54 PM
Every boss from devil may cry!

Hacker
03-14-2005, 08:05 PM
Rallos Zek the Warlord with a 3 group raid, talk about a pain in the ass.

saintjon
03-16-2005, 09:46 AM
My little bro wanted me to mention Flammie from Secret of Mana, me and my other brother beat him on 2 player but solo flammie would be pretty damn tough.

My pick is Quickman from Mega Man 2 WITHOUT THE FLASH STOPPER! I've heard of guys who could take him with the mega buster but all I ahve to say is good luck.

Hiromi
03-16-2005, 09:56 AM
Final boss(hell the last couple final bosses) for Shinobi(PS2) on the harder modes. Of course once you get above normal you become shocked at how friggin quickly Akujiki goes through your life bar.

Sam
03-16-2005, 10:05 AM
I'll second Mike Tyson. (Or alternately, Mr. Dream, after Mike Tyson went to jail for rape and they replaced his sprite with a photogenic white dude.)

I got insanely good at that game last year, played it all the time. I got to the point where I could get up to Super Macho Man before I even took a hit, and even he went down easily. I eventually even reached the point where I could survive three rounds against Tyson.

But I never beat the bastard.

Anthony
03-17-2005, 09:06 AM
I'll second Mike Tyson. (Or alternately, Mr. Dream, after Mike Tyson went to jail for rape and they replaced his sprite with a photogenic white dude.)

I got insanely good at that game last year, played it all the time. I got to the point where I could get up to Super Macho Man before I even took a hit, and even he went down easily. I eventually even reached the point where I could survive three rounds against Tyson.

But I never beat the bastard.

From what I remember, and it's very patchy so bear with me. Mike was just a pattern, once learned he was exceptionally easy. IIRC, block until you couldn't block anymore. Then dodge his uppercuts. After that, I think he gives you an opening to lay into him and knock him down at the end of the combo. Rinse and Repeat. Of course, I could be thinking of one of the other boxers. It's been a long time since I played.

Sam
03-17-2005, 10:25 AM
From what I remember, and it's very patchy so bear with me. Mike was just a pattern, once learned he was exceptionally easy. IIRC, block until you couldn't block anymore. Then dodge his uppercuts. After that, I think he gives you an opening to lay into him and knock him down at the end of the combo. Rinse and Repeat. Of course, I could be thinking of one of the other boxers. It's been a long time since I played.

You're definitely thinking of one of the other boxers. By memory, I'd say probably Mr. Sandman. (Who's also a bitch to beat, but nowhere near as bad as Tyson.) Blocking is useless against Tyson for the first minute of the fight -- if he hits you, you're down, blocking or not. You have to dodge every punch he throws for the first minute. You basically have to dodge everything after that, too... blocking is theoretically possible after the first minute, but he hits so hard you're stunned *fast*.

Like every character in the game, Tyson fights on a pattern, but it's a fast, complex pattern and you're basically dead if you screw up once. And even knowing his pattern and being able to dance around his hits doesn't garauntee a win, because he's so tough that actually knocking him down three times in a round is hard, and he always wins by decision.

Anthony
03-17-2005, 01:19 PM
You're definitely thinking of one of the other boxers. By memory, I'd say probably Mr. Sandman. (Who's also a bitch to beat, but nowhere near as bad as Tyson.) Blocking is useless against Tyson for the first minute of the fight -- if he hits you, you're down, blocking or not. You have to dodge every punch he throws for the first minute. You basically have to dodge everything after that, too... blocking is theoretically possible after the first minute, but he hits so hard you're stunned *fast*.

Like every character in the game, Tyson fights on a pattern, but it's a fast, complex pattern and you're basically dead if you screw up once. And even knowing his pattern and being able to dance around his hits doesn't garauntee a win, because he's so tough that actually knocking him down three times in a round is hard, and he always wins by decision.

You're right, that was Mr. Sandman I was thinking of.

On Tyson, I don't think you could knock him down until round two. Round one was strictly dodge street, IIRC. Tyson wasn't my forte, it was my friend's brother's though. He could beat Tyson like he was fighting Flamingo or Glass Joe. I wish I played it more, once he taught me the pattern it was easy. But as I said before, I don't remember the game well enough to relay what that pattern was. Maybe I'll talk to him and see if he even remembers it.

Wesley Dodds
03-17-2005, 03:20 PM
After 2 and a half hours of a single battle -- not repeated attempts, but one battle -- I'm going to have to say "The End" from MGS3. I did it on hard and I held him up for his camo and stamina killed him for his rifle!

pirulaso
03-17-2005, 03:39 PM
majoras mask, which boss was gyorg?

the expansion game to castlevania64, (the one were u played as a werewolf). the very last boss, this huge demon monster. he was insanely hard.

genra from doa3 was annoying.

end boss of reutrn to wolfenstien

SuperSaiyaMan12
03-17-2005, 04:14 PM
majoras mask, which boss was gyorg?

the expansion game to castlevania64, (the one were u played as a werewolf). the very last boss, this huge demon monster. he was insanely hard.

genra from doa3 was annoying.

end boss of reutrn to wolfenstien
Gyorg is the third boss in Majora's Mask. He is the horned fish.

Smokey
03-17-2005, 04:30 PM
i had trouble when i first faced lavos in chrono trigger..lol

pirulaso
03-17-2005, 05:39 PM
lol gyorg was the one i had the easiest time with. i rocked as a zoran. which one gave me the hardest time................?
i would have to say ghoat. or that mini boss, the guy with the bats all over him.

Zun Liako
03-17-2005, 05:51 PM
Rallos Zek the Warlord with a 3 group raid, talk about a pain in the ass.

That's impressive, what level of equipment. Time? Qvic? OoW tiers?

saintjon
03-18-2005, 07:24 AM
Hard mostly because of when you could fight it, that hidden beasty from FF6 that you can only fight in the light world and is supposedly one of the 8 dragons or whatever.