View Full Version : The Ten Most Physically Dangerous Spiderman Villains(NO CROSSOVERS)
Artemis1
03-03-2005, 12:53 PM
Here are mine(not in order):
Morlun: He has the strength of the Hulk and the speed of Thor.
Carnage: This thing's hands are the key.
Venom: He has Spiderman's powers and more.
Rhino: His strength even rivals the Hulk's.
Green Goblin 1: Not only is he Peter's ultimate prep villain, but the madder he gets the stronger he gets. Also, his skill gives him an edge as well.
Ultimate Green Goblin: HE PUT A WHOOPING ON CAPTAIN AMERICA WITH EASE.
Doctor Octopus: 3 tons for each tentacle. WOW.
Hobgoblin: His strength is that to Spiderman's along with weapons over Norman's.
Electro: Now this guy has power.
Sandman: He IS sand.
Honorable mentions(not in order):
Scorpian
Kraven
Lizard
Hydro-Man
Vulture
Artemis1
03-03-2005, 01:04 PM
No opinions?
Nightcrawler
03-03-2005, 01:09 PM
I think that Hydro-Man had a lot of potential. Same with Sandman. They are their elements, and pretty much invincible.
Artemis1
03-03-2005, 01:12 PM
I think that Hydro-Man had a lot of potential. Same with Sandman. They are their elements, and pretty much invincible.
Please post the ten most physically dangerous Spiderman villains.
Gauss
03-03-2005, 01:29 PM
So only opinions that include a list? ;)
1. Juggernaut - Sure he's not usually regarded as a Spidey villain, but damned if he wasn't extremely dangerous the first time they fought.
2. Morlun - About the same as Juggernaut, but a lot more personal and intelligent. On the other hand, he actually has a weakness Spidey can exploit.
3. Carnage - Fast, strong and utterly vicious. The only thing keeping him down is his insanity.
4. Venom - He may have depowered a bit these days, but the classic Venom beat Spidey hands down in a straight-up fight.
5. Scorpion - He's an idiot, but in every other respect he's got Spider-man outclassed.
6. Kaine - An uber-Spidey who's quite capable of killing the original, if he wanted to.
7. Sandman - Also a blockhead, and he has a decent streak that keeps him back. But when written to potential he can be extremely dangerous.
8. Doctor Octopus - The arms make him damn dangerous, but otherwise he's not in the weight classes listed above.
9. Rhino - Too stupid and too slow to hit the top, but he does have a buttload of physical strength on his side.
10. Molten Man - IT BUUURNS!!
Artemis1
03-03-2005, 01:35 PM
So only opinions that include a list? ;)
1. Juggernaut - Sure he's not usually regarded as a Spidey villain, but damned if he wasn't extremely dangerous the first time they fought.
2. Morlun - About the same as Juggernaut, but a lot more personal and intelligent. On the other hand, he actually has a weakness Spidey can exploit.
3. Carnage - Fast, strong and utterly vicious. The only thing keeping him down is his insanity.
4. Venom - He may have depowered a bit these days, but the classic Venom beat Spidey hands down in a straight-up fight.
5. Scorpion - He's an idiot, but in every other respect he's got Spider-man outclassed.
6. Kaine - An uber-Spidey who's quite capable of killing the original, if he wanted to.
7. Sandman - Also a blockhead, and he has a decent streak that keeps him back. But when written to potential he can be extremely dangerous.
8. Doctor Octopus - The arms make him damn dangerous, but otherwise he's not in the weight classes listed above.
9. Rhino - Too stupid and too slow to hit the top, but he does have a buttload of physical strength on his side.
10. Molten Man - IT BUUURNS!!
Juggernaut it a cross over Spiderman villain, thus cannot be used. Also, Molten Man is fairly weak. He was beaten down with one swipe of GG2.
Nightcrawler
03-03-2005, 02:03 PM
1. Carnage
2. Morlun
3. Venom
4. Doc Ock
5. GG
6. Elctro
7. Snadman
8. Hydro-Man
9. Rhino
10. MM
handOFfate
03-03-2005, 02:24 PM
If Scorpion had the intelligence of Doc Ock or Green Goblin, he would be Spidey's most dangerous villain.
Rhyno
Scorpion
Morlun
Hobgoblin
Green Goblin
Sandman
Venom
Carnage
Doc Ock (the arms only)
1HELLBOY
03-03-2005, 06:16 PM
Rhino: His strength even rivals the Hulk's.
what??? heh i don't know where you got THAT from, but i think you might wanna change it...sure he's strong, but he's not THAT strong
Artemis1
03-03-2005, 06:29 PM
what??? heh i don't know where you got THAT from, but i think you might wanna change it...sure he's strong, but he's not THAT strong
When in a fight with the Hulk, he smashed the green meanie into the wall with ease. Also, Spidey said his hand never hurt from punching someone like the Rhino and Hulk.
DMike
03-03-2005, 07:19 PM
I'm surprised noone mentioned the Lizard yet considering how often Spidey's had to pull a miracle to win against him.
ManuelCamara
03-04-2005, 02:43 AM
Carnage
Sandman
Venom
Rhino
Scorpion
Lizard
Molten Man (yes, he is that strong. He wasn't trying vs GG2)
Kaine
Dr. Octopus (especially with the adamantium arms)
Spider Doppelganger
Gauss
03-04-2005, 05:37 AM
Juggernaut it a cross over Spiderman villain, thus cannot be used. Also, Molten Man is fairly weak. He was beaten down with one swipe of GG2.
I'd actually forgotten about the suped-up Harry Osborn, but he's definitely making the list. :D Probably the only Goblin to manage outclassing Spidey in pure strength.
1. Juggernaut - I know he's an X-villain, but I'm leaving him in here. He's faced Spidey at least twice, which is more than most JMS villains can say.
2. Morlun - About the same as Juggernaut, but a lot more personal and intelligent. On the other hand, he actually has a weakness Spidey can exploit.
3. Carnage - Fast, strong and utterly vicious. The only thing keeping him down is his insanity.
4. Venom - He may have depowered a bit these days, but the classic Venom beat Spidey hands down in a straight-up fight.
5. Scorpion - He's an idiot, but in every other respect he's got Spider-man outclassed.
6. Green Goblin (Harry Osborn) - Completely insane, and the only Goblin who outclasses Spidey in pure strength. (We'll leave the last days of Jason Macendale out of this.)
7. Kaine - An uber-Spidey who's quite capable of killing the original, if he wanted to.
8. Sandman - Also a blockhead, and he has a decent streak that keeps him back. But when written to potential he can be extremely dangerous.
9. Doctor Octopus - The arms make him damn dangerous, but otherwise he's not in the weight classes listed above.
10. Rhino - Too stupid and too slow to hit the top, but he does have a buttload of physical strength on his side.
Artemis1
03-04-2005, 04:28 PM
I'd actually forgotten about the suped-up Harry Osborn, but he's definitely making the list. :D Probably the only Goblin to manage outclassing Spidey in pure strength.
1. Juggernaut - I know he's an X-villain, but I'm leaving him in here. He's faced Spidey at least twice, which is more than most JMS villains can say.
2. Morlun - About the same as Juggernaut, but a lot more personal and intelligent. On the other hand, he actually has a weakness Spidey can exploit.
3. Carnage - Fast, strong and utterly vicious. The only thing keeping him down is his insanity.
4. Venom - He may have depowered a bit these days, but the classic Venom beat Spidey hands down in a straight-up fight.
5. Scorpion - He's an idiot, but in every other respect he's got Spider-man outclassed.
6. Green Goblin (Harry Osborn) - Completely insane, and the only Goblin who outclasses Spidey in pure strength. (We'll leave the last days of Jason Macendale out of this.)
7. Kaine - An uber-Spidey who's quite capable of killing the original, if he wanted to.
8. Sandman - Also a blockhead, and he has a decent streak that keeps him back. But when written to potential he can be extremely dangerous.
9. Doctor Octopus - The arms make him damn dangerous, but otherwise he's not in the weight classes listed above.
10. Rhino - Too stupid and too slow to hit the top, but he does have a buttload of physical strength on his side.
Actually, Norman is stronger than Harry. Harry never beat Spiderman while a pissed GG1 literally wiped the floor with Peter, using no weapons but his own two hands and feet.
Mister Mets
03-04-2005, 07:16 PM
10. Digger- Not the greatest Spider-Man villain, but he was very strong.
9. Doctor Octopus- The tentacles are powerful, but there's more intimidating foes. His brilliance makes his more dangerous than this list would have one believe.
8. Rhino- A strong Spider-Man villain, but there's more where that came from.
7. Sandman- Very strong, and creative in the use of his powers.
6. Venom 1- Spider-Man's powers, but he's stronger.
5. Electro- He's not very strong physically, but his power is intimidating.
4. Morlun- Beat the holy hell out of Spider-Man repeatedly in Volume 2 #32-34
3. Carnage- Venom's powers, and a more sadistic owner.
2. Fusion- He's not physically powerful, but his enemies think he is. This may make him the most physicallty intimidating villain of all.
1. New Venom- He has the symbiote, Scorpion's enhanced strength, and the improvements Norman gave Gargan.
Keep in mind I would find almost any Spider-Man villain intimidating if I met them on the street. :)
Gauss
03-04-2005, 08:17 PM
Actually, Norman is stronger than Harry. Harry never beat Spiderman while a pissed GG1 literally wiped the floor with Peter, using no weapons but his own two hands and feet.
I refer only to Harry after he'd used Norman's new-and-improved Goblin formula. At that point I believe he was considerably stronger than both Spider-man and Norman, although the death effects were an obvious downside.
On the other hand, the only basis I have for that belief is Peter's own thoughts on the matter... but Peter later put the Hobgoblin above Norman after Hobbie drank some of Kraven's jungle juice, so what does he know? :p
Artemis1
03-04-2005, 09:28 PM
I refer only to Harry after he'd used Norman's new-and-improved Goblin formula. At that point I believe he was considerably stronger than both Spider-man and Norman, although the death effects were an obvious downside.
On the other hand, the only basis I have for that belief is Peter's own thoughts on the matter... but Peter later put the Hobgoblin above Norman after Hobbie drank some of Kraven's jungle juice, so what does he know? :p
I have most of the Hob 1 series and the Harry/GG2 saga. When Hobby first came out, he noticed the fact Kingsley's strength started out higher than Norman's, making Peter worried about this Goblin being more powerful. When Norman came back, though, he became the strongest of the Goblins, becoming more enhanced the angrier he got like Spidey or Hulk.
comic_lover
03-04-2005, 11:10 PM
Scorpion
Carnage
Venom
Rhino
Green Goblin - Harry and Norman Osborn
Electro
Doctor Octopus
Hobgoblin-Roderick Kingsley
Vulture
Sandman
Artemis1
03-05-2005, 03:57 AM
Will you people stop with Harry? He almost died with one punch of Spidey. I do understand that he uses his weaponry well, though.
cable guy
03-05-2005, 07:21 AM
Venom
Rhino
Sandman
Carnage
Doc Ock
Green Goblin
Lizard
Scorpion
Electro
Hobgoblin
Darkoth
03-05-2005, 08:06 AM
1.Scorpion-The ORIGINAL psychotic evil Spider-man clone,designed specifically to be Spidey's physical superior.
2.Rhino-Not too many Spider-foes can moonlight in the Hulk's rogue's gallery.
3.Sandman-He has given the Fantastic Four and the Hulk a hard time.
4.Carrion-His very touch is death.
5.Stegron-He's like a stronger Lizard with a nastier tail.
6.Electro-He was once billed as Marvel's most powerfull villian.
7.Kingpin-"It's not fat...it's muscle!"
8.Kraven-He buried Spidey alive.
9.Green Goblin-We all know what he did,I think he's the first villian to ever kill a major character.
10.Doc Ock-He doesn't translate as fearsome in the comics,but the film got him right.
Archyduke
03-06-2005, 04:23 PM
9.Green Goblin-We all know what he did,I think he's the first villian to ever kill a major character.
I'm not sure if you'd consider him a major character, but Doc Ock had killed Gwen's father, Captain Stacy, awhile before that.
Artemis1
03-06-2005, 04:30 PM
I'm not sure if you'd consider him a major character, but Doc Ock had killed Gwen's father, Captain Stacy, awhile before that.
GG killed Scarlet Spider, Gwen Stacy, supposidly baby MJ, and Harry Osborn. He might of killed more people, though.
comic_lover
03-07-2005, 08:44 AM
Will you people stop with Harry? He almost died with one punch of Spidey. I do understand that he uses his weaponry well, though.You miss the whole point.Harry was Peter's best friend,and as such it made him very apprehensive.How can you take down your best friend who wants to kill you when you know he's not mentally competent ? A major headache,to be sure,as well as a serious moral dilemma.Harry dementia made for a seriously riveting read.Check out Spectacular Spider-Man # 200 some time.One of the greatest stories I've read about Spidey since the death of Gwen Stacy.
Dark Soul # 7
03-07-2005, 08:49 AM
1. Black Tarantula: He whooped Spideys ass twice and both times Peter survived because BT let him go.
2. Morlun: At least above Thing level strength and durability also tons of experience. But he has a weakness that can be exploited, unlike BT.
3. Carnage: Strong enough to rip just about anybody to shreds and a ferocity to match. But he´s not on the same strengthlevels as the ones above and he does have that pesky weakness.
4. Sandman and Hydroman: Both have Thing level strength and they´re elements but they´re really stupid and lacks Carnage´s bloodlust.
5. Venom III(Gargan): Stronger and faster than Spidey plus a symbiote that increases these abilities and negates the spider-sense. The downside is the same weakness as Carnage.
6. Rhino: Slightly weaker than Thing but he lacks the skill and experiance.
7. Dr.Octopus(adamantium arms): He took out both Spider-man and the Hulk and he held of more then eight heros at once until sandman took him down.
8. Dr.Octopus II: She was everything that Otto is and more with all her extra wepons and that armour of hers.
9. Kaine: He´s like a super spider-man without the webbing and with no problems of killing.
10. Puma and Lizard: Both can match Spider-man in speed and agility and they´re stronger than the web-slinger but not by much.
I exclueded Electro since I consider him to be more energy controlling then physical strength.
Troy Wall
03-07-2005, 09:15 AM
10. Mysterio: Remember how he destroyed DD's life? This guy was capable of so much, but the writers never exploited it.
9. Electro: Extremely dangerous, as several fleeting moments in Spidey history have shown (most recently MK Spidey series.)
8. Carnage: Although I'm not a big fan, the fact that his power is close to Venom's can't be denied.
7. Venom I Eddie Brock: Remember the time he showed up on May Parker's doorstep?
6. Kraven the Hunter: As someone else said, he buried Spidey alive. Kraven's determination is what made him so dangerous.
5. Hobgoblin (Roderick Kingsley): My personal favorite Spidey rogue. He was hell on wheels once he got the strength formula from Osborn.
4. The Jackel: Stark raving looney toon that cloned (!) Spidey and sicked the clone on him!
3. Green Goblin II (Harry): Someone mentioned how easily he went down once, but all the hell he caused cannot be ignored. He knew everything about Peter and posed a danger to his family. Remember the time he made Spider-Man sit down at the dinner table with him and Liz and Normy and eat dinner (in costume)? The guy was a time bomb that could have destroyed Peter's life at any time.
2. Doctor Octopus: Smarter than Spidey, viciously insane and equipped with gigantic flailing (at one time adamantium!) arms.
1. Green Goblin: Though I think his reputation has been tarnished since he was brought back in the 90's as a last ditch effort to end the clone saga, he is the greatest Spidey villian of all time.
Troy Wall
03-07-2005, 09:16 AM
Oops! I just noticed this thread was for villians based on brute strength. Doh!
Cody H
03-07-2005, 07:27 PM
Keep in mind that I'm taking this a purely physical threats to Spidey, I'm thinking arena style stuff, which is why I'm excluding guys like Ock and the Goblins, they're far more dangerous for other reasons (intelligence, weaponry, etc.). Here they are in no particular order:
Rhino - Way about Spider-Man in strength and endurance, ph
Venom - Stronger than Spidey, just about as fast, viscious, psychotic, do I need much more explanation?
Carnage - Stronger than Venom, probably faster, more viscious, wayyy more psychotic, you get the picture.
Scorpion - Matches Spider-Man physically and surpasses him in many ways.
Puma - Also matches Spidey physically. Plus, he's a highly skill fighter coupled with strong resolve and tracking ability to rival Wolverine.
Lizard - Strong, viscious, and completely animalistic in nature. He's also incredibly difficult to hurt.
Sandman - Strong, tough, versatile, dangerous.
Kaine - Spider-Man to the extreme, in almost every way possible. He's also got a killer instinct to rival any of the above mentioned villains.
Morlun - Moped the floor with Spider-Man in every encounter. Without smarts, Spidey doesn't stand a chance.
Jackal (Clone Storyline Version) - Able to hold his own against both Spider-Man and the Scarlet Spider, that says alot.
Artemis1
03-21-2005, 01:52 PM
I refer only to Harry after he'd used Norman's new-and-improved Goblin formula. At that point I believe he was considerably stronger than both Spider-man and Norman
He was never stronger than Norman. I have the GG2 saga, and he NEVER beat Spiderman. Not once.
Artemis1
03-21-2005, 01:57 PM
Keep in mind that I'm taking this a purely physical threats to Spidey, I'm thinking arena style stuff, which is why I'm excluding guys like Ock and the Goblins, they're far more dangerous for other reasons (intelligence, weaponry, etc.). Here they are in no particular [/list]
Dude, read what I said. Norman kicked the crap out of Spiderman without any weapons. Peter was literally down.
Sir_Hawkeye
03-21-2005, 02:04 PM
-NOT IN ORDER MIND YOU-
1. Shocker: He can really kill when he gets P.O.'d
2. Doctor Octopus: Well he is to obviouse to explain
3. Venom: Because he is a Spidey on steroids and he knows all Pete's secrets
4. Carnage: He has no mercy for anyone
5. Electro: If he got enough power he could kill millions I bet
6. Scorpion: His tail is like a lightpost with a laser on it
7. Sandman: The fact that you can't really beat him to a bloody pulp
8. Morlun: Man he's one pissed off uber-villian
9. Lizard: The idea of him ripping you apart and then being a nice guy
10. Rhino: I hate Ultimate characters and the goblins so he's the best I got ok
Cody H
03-21-2005, 04:51 PM
Dude, read what I said. Norman kicked the crap out of Spiderman without any weapons. Peter was literally down.Which issues? I definetly wanna check that out. :)
Either way I see what your saying, but I would argue that every villain I'd listed has a physical edge over Norman in strength at least.
Artemis1
03-21-2005, 05:09 PM
Either way I see what your saying, but I would argue that every villain I'd listed has a physical edge over Norman in strength at least.
The madder Norm gets, the more powerful he gets.
LiquidSnakeX
03-21-2005, 08:12 PM
top ten that need to be used properly
1)Electro-elemental guy, cmon need i say more
2)Sandman-elemental guy, cmon need i say more
3)Hydroman-elemental guy, cmon need i say more
4)Chameleon (he was useless after he went nuts, they barely tapped his full potential
5)Harry (they just basically made him too cliche and then he died, he needed more goblin time)
6)Shriek (she had a lot of potential and they just made her crazy too)
7)Rhino (cmon he is strong and yet they make him stupid as hell)
8)Mysterio-became too cliche as well and too much of a joke
9)scorpian-another cliche joke
10)Symthe-(he was uber smart and they just made him as cliche as harry 'you killed my dad waaaahh)
Artemis1
03-22-2005, 03:26 AM
top ten that need to be used properly
1)Electro-elemental guy, cmon need i say more
2)Sandman-elemental guy, cmon need i say more
3)Hydroman-elemental guy, cmon need i say more
4)Chameleon (he was useless after he went nuts, they barely tapped his full potential
5)Harry (they just basically made him too cliche and then he died, he needed more goblin time)
6)Shriek (she had a lot of potential and they just made her crazy too)
7)Rhino (cmon he is strong and yet they make him stupid as hell)
8)Mysterio-became too cliche as well and too much of a joke
9)scorpian-another cliche joke
10)Symthe-(he was uber smart and they just made him as cliche as harry 'you killed my dad waaaahh)
10 PHYSICALLY DANGEROUS Spiderman villains.
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