Green Arrow: Long Bow Hunter...Anygood? [Archive]

AlanScott606

03-02-2005, 04:31 PM

I just picked up GA Long Bow Hunter off of ebay and was wondering how everyone who has read it would rate it. I'm not wanting spoilers, I'm just wanting to hear everyone's opinion of the book. Thanks

john72tex

03-02-2005, 04:39 PM

The Long Bow Hunters was a great series by Mike Grell. I highly recommend it. If I remember correctly it was one of the first prestige series after Dark Knight.

Dave Cote

03-02-2005, 04:45 PM

IMO the beat Green Arrow story ever! :)

clt123456789

03-02-2005, 04:52 PM

i hope you've never read it is y you're asking this question...your question is almost like asking if the bible mentions god ...lol...get it now...in either trade or single issue..it is the best, most unique, deathless, no messing around with the core essence of the character evolution of a hero story every written in comics most likely..surely for dc...laters! :) :p

Zero Hunter

03-02-2005, 05:03 PM

After you read it there is a good chance you will end up picking up some of the Grell issues of the last Green Arrow series. It is that good, and the series is almost as good at least for the first few years.

clt123456789

03-02-2005, 05:48 PM

ya'll grell ga heads surely remember her...i'd left for greener lantern pastures or something when they settled up shado..did she die or is she just been shuffled off to great/interesting character limbo? ya'll are making me want to go home asap so i can be reunited with my longbow hunter tpb! was grell's original sable stuff as good as longbow hunters? didn't grell do something about a native american character called Butcher too while he was on GA...for some reason i recall the concept/character of Butcher and not much else right now..is he a grell too? and what is grell doing currently if anything ini comics/books?..laters...

Dave Cote

03-02-2005, 05:59 PM

I think Butcher was a Mike Baron creation that crossed over with Grell's GA. :p

clt123456789

03-02-2005, 06:02 PM

I think Butcher was a Mike Baron creation that crossed over with Grell's GA. :p

but you may be right...does anyone remember what became of shado from longbow hunters...she should have spun off into her own freaky kewl ninja/hot archer chick with sexy tats series....is she still alive if so toss her to blalent or turner and watch the t &a and arrows fly...lol..laters !

Captain Jim

03-02-2005, 08:06 PM

was grell's original sable stuff as good as longbow hunters?

Even better. Yes, really. :)

clt123456789

03-02-2005, 08:39 PM

so anyone know the fate of shado the asian longbow hunter from this excellent series...i seem to recollect her appearing again in a regular series grell story line..but i dont' recall if she is alive and inactive/ in limbo or dead dead dead jim...any assist? laters

The Shadow

03-02-2005, 08:42 PM

IMO the beat Green Arrow story ever! :)
Totally. Ollie down and dirty like he should be.

No Kevin Smith wordy crap... just great action and killer Mike Grell art.

AlanScott606

03-03-2005, 01:05 AM

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I was wondering about the quality of the writing and artwork because of how cheap I actually won the set for.

clt123456789

03-03-2005, 02:41 PM

then send me some dough cause whatever you paid for it you got a bargain man...its the bees knees..laters!

niall mc cann

03-05-2005, 05:10 AM

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I was wondering about the quality of the writing and artwork because of how cheap I actually won the set for.

You would have to have paid a majorly exhorbitant price to have gotten ripped off on this one, man.

It's a great book.

steeler80

03-05-2005, 08:51 PM

I read it for the first time not long ago. Really great book with some terrific art.

And I think Shado ended up with Ollie's baby, didn't she? Maybe I'm off on that.

Ontir

03-05-2005, 10:51 PM

I haven't read it in nearly 20 years, but I enjoyed it at the time.

Siythe

03-06-2005, 04:24 AM

niall mc cann

03-06-2005, 04:50 AM

I loved it but some of the fans of the original GA stories hated the much darker tone.

http://moviepoopshoot.com/comics101/93.html

If it wasnt for Grell though I'd never have bothered with Smiths reboot.

if it wasn't for Smith's reboot, i'd never have bothered looking out Grell's.

Kind of ironic, since the formers just not that good, imo.

Master Darque

03-08-2005, 01:53 PM

Late getting here but I wanted to add my 2 cents . Grell's Green Arrow is what ultimately made me a fan of the character . He aged him . He put fear of growing old , of being alone into the character ..something I'd never really seen done up to that point . Making Ollie see he was a grandfather of sorts to Roy's kid .....
I also liked how he made Ollie more an urban hunter .
Plus Grell's lush paints were breathtaking back then , before the Alex Ross' began churning out . But hell ... Grell's work still dazzles me .
Hope you liked the series .

AlanScott606

03-08-2005, 02:01 PM

I haven't gotten it yet. I expect to have it anyday now. As soon as I get it I will let everyone know just what I think of it.

And again thanks everyone for your opinions.

Master Darque

03-08-2005, 02:03 PM

Crap . Hope I didn't spoil anything for you ....

AlanScott606

03-08-2005, 02:09 PM

Crap . Hope I didn't spoil anything for you ....

No, not at all.

I know a little about what happens but I have just recently began to get an interest in Green Arrow and decided this might be a good place for me to start.

Slam_Bradley

03-08-2005, 03:25 PM

Even better. Yes, really. :)

Absolutely agree. Jon Sable, Freelance is an outstanding book. I liked Longbow Hunters quite a bit and the first two or three years of the ongoing. While you're in Grell mode you need to hit Warlord.

AlanScott606

03-08-2005, 04:53 PM

What kind of price is on the Warlord series? is it terribly expensive?

Captain Jim

03-08-2005, 08:23 PM

I imagine it's probably dirt cheap.

Captain Jim

03-08-2005, 08:25 PM

The Shadow

03-08-2005, 10:08 PM

What kind of price is on the Warlord series? is it terribly expensive?
Warlord is quarter bin stuff but a fun read.

You get LBH yet???

clt123456789

03-10-2005, 01:43 PM

remember her from Longbow hunters? then she goes to a story line in the Grell GA series. somewhere ihave the first two parts of her own prestige format(does anyone call them things that anymore?) series by it seems grell? does she live or die? should i seek out shado 3 and 4 or is tha series a two parter only? did she ever show up to met/bother the son of ollie..uh what the hell is his name again? not that memorable a character really is he? laters! :confused:

Thanos

12-09-2005, 07:46 PM

In my honest opinion, it's the best Green Arrow story to date. It also has some excellent Mike Grell art in it.

- Thanos

SUPERECWFAN1

12-09-2005, 07:57 PM

I think Mike Grell really knew the charactor so well. He knew where to take Oliver Queen and its sadly since he left the book , the direction has taken bad turns. Kevin Smith did a good arc or 2. But Winick seemingly has looked at Smith's run and checkmarked facin Demons and Monsters twice and super villains.

Love to see a more urban Green Arrow again. Dido rehire Mike Grell damn it.

Agentum

12-10-2005, 11:15 AM

For it's time it is one of the best comicstories.
And the following GA series is good too at least half of it.
I like that he began using real sharp arrows and could kill someone sometimes.

And like others have said, i like that he was not 29 something, but in the late 40s.
Grell even tried ditch GA's mask, but people forced him to take it back.
I think that was good too, not following the satndard rules of superheros, mask, secret identity, no killing etc.
That made my like starman from the late 90s too.

So give GA's Longbow Hunters a chance, in 87 it was not much that was this good.

Agentum

12-10-2005, 11:20 AM

I read it for the first time not long ago. Really great book with some terrific art.

And I think Shado ended up with Ollie's baby, didn't she? Maybe I'm off on that.
She did, and Ollie found out later.
Last time we saw Shado was when she got the message that Ollie had died.
And so died Grells Green Arrow...........
But Grell had left the book 20 issues earlier and the book bacame more and more standard superhero comic 1A.

Babylon23

12-11-2005, 05:09 PM

Just wanted to add to the praise everyone's been giving to Green Arrow: TLH. This is easily one of the best comics of the 80's.

The ongoing series was also very good during the Grell years.

As for Jon Sable, Freelance, it's an excellent book as well, as good if not better than Green Arrow. IDW is currently reprinting the series in TB's, so if you can't find the issues, I'd recommend checking out the trades. Grell is also 5 issues into a new 6-issue Jon Sable miniseries, which is also a great read.

Thanos

12-12-2005, 07:15 PM

As for Jon Sable, Freelance, it's an excellent book as well, as good if not better than Green Arrow. IDW is currently reprinting the series in TB's, so if you can't find the issues, I'd recommend checking out the trades. Grell is also 5 issues into a new 6-issue Jon Sable miniseries, which is also a great read.

Agreed. As much as I liked Mr. Grell's Green Arrow run, I enjoyed his Jon Sable run that much more. I'm currently enjoying his Jon Sable mini-series as well.

- Thanos

Agentum

12-13-2005, 12:17 AM

Was his run on Warlord good?

The Shadow

12-13-2005, 12:23 AM

Was his run on Warlord good?
It's a Classic.

It's like asking if Gretzky's run with the Oilers was good, or Jordan's run with the Bulls or Montana's with the 49ers.

Kevin Street

12-13-2005, 12:35 AM

Ah, Mike Grell's Warlord... Good times. :) Fighting dinosaurs one day, and magicians the next. Shakira and her fur bikini...

Good times.

The Shadow

12-13-2005, 12:39 AM

Ah, Mike Grell's Warlord... Good times. :) Fighting dinosaurs one day, and magicians the next.
That was good...

Shakira and her fur bikini
This was better!!! :cool: :D :D

Babylon23

12-13-2005, 04:41 PM

Oh yeah, Warlord is a classic. DC really needs to trade these issues, especially with the release of the new series.

Wouldn't it be nice to see Grell writing/drawing for DC again.

Thanos

12-13-2005, 08:09 PM

His run on Warlord was epic. If I'm not mistaken, both Warlord and Jon Sable were amongst the top sellers the first couple of years they were out.

Just some info on Warlord, Mr. Grell has stated in the past that his wife did some Ghost writing on the Warlord series late in his run. He hasn't stated which issues she did but that's interesting to know.

- Thanos

Babylon23

12-13-2005, 08:14 PM

Both Warlord and Sable sold well. Warlord was one of the few titles to survive the DC implosion, so sales must have been strong.

Blueferret

12-13-2005, 08:20 PM

There was an interview with either Grell or Wolfman recently where they stated that if it wasn't for Warlord and New Teen Titans, DC would have been in serious trouble financially in the late 70's/early 80's. Warlord sold great originally because fantasy sold real well with series like Warlord,Conan, Red Sonja, and others during that time period.