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Sheldon
06-30-2005, 05:50 AM
I just read the RAW to 266.

I knew Chiyo was controlling Sakura's movements with chakra strings!

Sasori is hot! and a lot younger looking than I expected. Hopefully that will be explained int he translation...His new puppet seems pretty impressive...it looks like one of the old Kazekages....

Hiromi
06-30-2005, 11:45 AM
Sasori is teh Sexah

G_Man
06-30-2005, 12:55 PM
The moment it was revealed that Sasori wasn't some puppet cyborg, but someone inside a puppet, I knew he'd be revealed as a kid (Chiyo-baa? Sounds like a term of affection a kid would use, not an old guy like his puppet armor's appearance implied he was). A surprisingly bishonen kid, though. It seems his youthfullness is a surprise to Chiyo too for some reason.

As for Chiyo helping Sakura dodge those needles, I'm actually relieved. Sasori would have to be the weakest member of all Akatsuki for Sakura, a Chuunin (albeit a gifted one), to dodge his every attack with minor effort, especially after they made a big deal of him deflecting Naruto's shuriken without looking. Damn, but that is an impressive nod to Chiyo's skills as a puppeteer. The old lady kicks ass.

Hiromi
06-30-2005, 01:28 PM
Iwonder which is the more impressive puppet, Sasori's new doll or Sakura, hehe

Sheldon
06-30-2005, 03:53 PM
The moment it was revealed that Sasori wasn't some puppet cyborg, but someone inside a puppet, I knew he'd be revealed as a kid (Chiyo-baa? Sounds like a term of affection a kid would use, not an old guy like his puppet armor's appearance implied he was). A surprisingly bishonen kid, though. It seems his youthfullness is a surprise to Chiyo too for some reason.



In one of translations I've read its revealed that Sasori hasn't aged since Chiyo last saw him....some weird jutsu must be in effect...

G_Man
06-30-2005, 05:44 PM
Well, read a translation myself now. It seems that Sheldon is indeed correct. Sasori hasn't aged since Ciyo last saw him, presumably many years ago.

As for Hiromi's comment. Well, it turns out that whole scene with Kankuro and the Sand Council was actually a set-up for the intro of Sasori's new doll, namely, the puppetized (is that a word?) corpse of the Sandaime of Hidden Sand, strongest Kazekage in the village's history (not sure if they include Gaara in that list). And to think Sasori killed the guy himself years ago, back when he was weaker. Methinks Chiyo and Sakura are in trouble.

Chiyo - Oh, snap!

Sakura - Chiyo-san?

Chiyo - Sakura, remember how well we were doing a second ago?

Sakura - Uh, yeah?

Chiyo - Well forget that, we're about to get pwnzed harder than a bowl of ramen vs. your blonde jinchuuriki friend...

G_Man
07-01-2005, 01:49 PM
DAMN! Fangirls don't waste any time! I made my daily visit to Fanfiction.net and found a yaoi fic with Naruto and the newly-revealed-as-a-bishonen Sasori. This again begs the question, just what the hell is with these people? And I thought pairings with Kyuubi were weird...

Sheldon
07-01-2005, 06:36 PM
Chiyo is pretty much going to have to do a sucidal move to stop Sasori....its predictable...but thats what the two scrolls she brought are for...

Melchior
07-01-2005, 07:24 PM
Did anyone else get that weird feeling that the scroll Chiyo-baa-sama picked up was either:

1. Something else to seal into Gaara.

2. Voltron. Or a puppet so close it doesn't matter.

*Goes to download the chapter and find out how bishi the new Sasori is.*

Oh, and does anyone else suspect that Sasori's "real" body is another fake?

Deskad
07-01-2005, 10:52 PM
I have a crazy theory that sasori is now some undead puppet of himself kept alive by a jutsu. An d that that's the reason he didn't age.

Mark my words.

Sheldon
07-02-2005, 08:31 AM
The simpliest explanation for Sasori's Youth is that he is using a jutsu like Tsunade to look young...

The Real Nemo
07-02-2005, 08:15 PM
The simpliest explanation for Sasori's Youth is that he is using a jutsu like Tsunade to look young...
I got the impression that that was something only a medical ninja of Tsunade's caliber was capable of though, Sasori isn't a medical ninja at all that we know of...

G_Man
07-03-2005, 05:34 PM
To be fair, he must have some medical expertise to prepare the corpses of his victims to be turned into puppets. If his latest puppet is indeed the corpse of the 3rd kazekage, then he must be quite skilled at preserving bodies... which might open up another possible explanation for his youthfullness (namely Deskad's "he's some sort of undead/living corpse" theory).

Deskad
07-05-2005, 01:17 PM
To be fair, he must have some medical expertise to prepare the corpses of his victims to be turned into puppets. If his latest puppet is indeed the corpse of the 3rd kazekage, then he must be quite skilled at preserving bodies... which might open up another possible explanation for his youthfullness (namely Deskad's "he's some sort of undead/living corpse" theory).

It would just make sense that his age abnormality would go in line with his main abilities I think, I thank you for agreeing with me.

Besides, wouldn't it be cool if he was like that?

Kyuubi
07-06-2005, 12:14 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Naniki/badsauske.jpg

Sasuke's been a baaad boy.

Hiromi
07-06-2005, 08:45 AM
My God, funniest thing I've seen in weeks easily.

Sheldon
07-06-2005, 11:33 AM
That pic is pretty funny.....cosplay gone wild....

Hiromi
07-06-2005, 02:33 PM
That deserves captions

Naruto always warned Sasuke that his Jerkface actions would lead to trouble.

Hiromi
07-07-2005, 11:05 AM
New chapter out

The 3rd Kazekage makes every other puppet we've seen so for look weak and tame, including the one he was wearing before hand. Also we find out what were in Chiyo's scrolls, Sasori's first two puppets, his mother and father. This is one f**ked up kid.

Hiromi
07-07-2005, 11:22 AM
Narutofan.com forums. The forums are always the ones to get it first, followed by the sites.

Leafninja.com is also good for telling when they're out.

Sheldon
07-07-2005, 12:53 PM
Sakura stinking rules! Show'd a lot of moxy and guts! Chiyo & Sasori have one messed up family....

Hiromi
07-07-2005, 02:13 PM
On the anime front

New filler arc started, first half of the episode was more or lessconsistant with the manga, Sakura training, Lee training with Tenten watching, nice to see Hinata again, and Lee looks downright sexy with his new muscular animated look, nice to see Mizuki again, and it looks like the filler is giving him a lot more character and a link to Orochimaru, the anime team's taking some ballsy liberties for this one. Still, I think my biggest complaint on this one and in filler in general is how wussy Jounen look in them, Asuma and Kurenai shouldn't have had any trouble in getting out of that prison even with all the prisoners out, and the Fuujin and Raijin brothers shouldn't have been much of a challenge either for two armed Chuunin.

MKTerra
07-08-2005, 05:59 PM
Hah, check out this wallpaper :D

Enter the Drunken (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/8826333/)

Infinity Chameleon
07-08-2005, 07:38 PM
That is glorious.

Deskad
07-08-2005, 08:09 PM
Last episode made no frickin sense whatsoever!!!

What the hell do the guards at that prison do anyways, and if it's so easy to beat them, why were jounin not put there instead. Why are there ninja prisoners anyway? I thought renegade ninja were killed by hunter nins as established by kishimoto masashi, such a big deal was made about the hunter nins at first, only to retcon them out of existance for the rest of the show.


GRRR, it's this kinda idiotic filler that makes me mad.

Hiromi
07-09-2005, 10:46 AM
There's no point in getting worked up over filler, that does seem to be the main complaint with the episode though.

Deskad
07-09-2005, 12:55 PM
There's no point in getting worked up over filler, that does seem to be the main complaint with the episode though.

I tend to ignore filler as elseworlds in general, but there is only so much bs I am willing to be silent about.

Deskad
07-09-2005, 12:56 PM
ALSO, what the hell kind of prison is it where the guards can't even contain two prisoners, the cages don't work and guards have to bribe the prisoners to keep them in line? Last time I checked that is the opposite of how prisons work.

Sheldon
07-11-2005, 07:36 AM
Yes the Anime is very messed up right now....but I hear they are doing a Chouji 2 parter...that will be fun...

Hiromi
07-11-2005, 01:25 PM
From Leafninja.com, couple more American VAs

Steven Blum as Kakashi Hatake(already knew that one)
Stephanie Sheh as Hinata Hyuuga
Colleen O'Shaughnessey as Ino Yamanaka, Konohamaru
Steve Kramer as Sandaime Hokage

list of what they've done here http://s4.invisionfree.com/LeafNinjaForums/index.php?showtopic=654&st=0&#entry9988683

G_Man
07-13-2005, 09:25 AM
If I may, another educational observation.

Signs That Shinobi in Naruto Are Stupid #343:

Chiyo stated that "Mother" and "Father" were Sasori's two first puppets. Did anyone in Sand village consider that maybe a kid making dolls out of the corpses of his parents was perhaps a sign of mental instability? No, apparently not. Apparently, even Chiyo didn't have anything to say about that, cuz' it must have been around when he was still a member of Sunagakure.

Apparently, Sasori's a victim of what I call "the Eccentric Prodigy Blindspot", or "The Itachi Effect" if you will, in which a shinobi village doesn't care that they are essentially raising children to be emotionless killing machines as long as said killing machines are prodigies who are good at their jobs. :rolleyes:

Sheldon
07-13-2005, 09:27 AM
Or maybe building dolls out of his parents is why he left Hidden Sand.

G_Man
07-13-2005, 09:32 AM
Or maybe building dolls out of his parents is why he left Hidden Sand.

Then what was he doing before? Chiyo stated they were his very first puppets, but he must have been trained to be a puppet user in Hidden Sand. Hell, it was stated he invented Kankuro's puppets, so obviously he stayed in Hidden Sand for a while after making "Mother" and "Father".

Hiromi
07-13-2005, 12:41 PM
He kept it secret from the others?

MKTerra
07-13-2005, 05:20 PM
What I'm wondering is why he'd bother procuring the Third Kazekage, unless one's strength in life somehow carries over in the puppification process. Maybe it's just for revenge or bragging rights.

Hiromi
07-13-2005, 06:19 PM
He toyed with him in real life, he toys with him after death is the explination I've been hearing.

G_Man
07-14-2005, 10:04 AM
What I'm wondering is why he'd bother procuring the Third Kazekage, unless one's strength in life somehow carries over in the puppification process. Maybe it's just for revenge or bragging rights.

Now see, the "Strength in life carrying over" thing is what I initially thought, which is why I was sure that Sakura and Chiyo were dead meat without some back-up. But if that's the case, he hasn't demonstrated it yet. He even said killing the 3rd kazekage had been very challenging back then. Maybe he makes his victims into puppets as a form of trophy-hunting? :confused:

Hiromi
07-14-2005, 01:50 PM
Its not like he made a weak puppet either given the amount of extra arms the thing has.

G_Man
07-15-2005, 10:00 AM
Just saw the RAW of the latest chapter. It seems there may actually be something to that whole "strength in life arrying over" theory. And if I read things right, mother and father may not have actually been made from the corpses of his parents. Chiyo's flashbacks show a young Sasori using the puppets as a substitute for his presumably dead mother and father (making them hug him, things like that). Almost makes him seem sympathetic.

Sheldon
07-15-2005, 10:20 AM
I think it makes him really messed up :)

Anyways I don't expect Chiyo to survive the next few chapters....but I expect she'll go down in a blaze of glory...

I just hope Sakura is of some use in it all...

Hiromi
07-15-2005, 11:30 AM
Yep, Sakura and Chiyo appear hossed Not only do human puppets cary over jutsus with them after they die, but they even retain chakra, iron sand is a friggin nightmare

G_Man
07-15-2005, 03:21 PM
I think it makes him really messed up :)


See. The Itachi Effect/Psycho Prodigy Blindspot. They had to have known about Mother and Father since Chiyo has flashbacks of him practicing with them and even making them imitate real parents whenever he got lonely (which makes you wonder where the hell Chiyo was if the kid was so damn lonely he had to make imitation parents just to feel loved). It seems Hidden Leaf isn't the only village that's blind to obvious signs of the early onset of psychosis.

G_Man
07-15-2005, 08:15 PM
Finally read a translation of 268. So the 3rd Kazekage had magnetic powers. Strange, I would have expected a blood limit or special skill like that from someone from Hidden Cloud, not Sand. Makes you wonder what the remaining three Akatsuki members we haven't seen are like.

Let's see, so far we've got:

Itachi from Hidden Leaf, currently the ultimate Sharingan-user and damn good at genjutsu as well as ninjutsu.

Kisame from Hidden Mist, apparently some blood limit or muation that makes him part shark, he's also got massive amounts of chakra considering how powerful his water jutsus were at just 30% of his power. He honestly looked more impressive than Itachi did during the latest arc.

Zetsu, village unknown as we haven't seen his hitai-ate though most have naturally theorized it's Hidden Grass, apparently it's some blood limit or mutation (possibly like the Aburame clan but with plants instead of bugs) that makes him part plant

Deidara, from Hidden Stone, a blood limit or mutation (most fanfics seem to theorize it's a self-inflicted mutation) that gives him/her the ability to naturally produce a C4-like explosive clay. Funny, before he/she showed, most fanfics theorized the hidden Stone rep in the Akatsuki would be some big hulking guy, and it turns out to be either a female, or an even girlier looking guy than Itachi. Did we ever get any clarification on the whole husband/wife thing that Hidden Sand spy mentioned? It's obviously not between Sasori and Deidara.

Sasori, from Hidden Sand, an extremely skilled puppet-user, who's mastered a special ritual for turning his victims' (presumably still fresh) corpses into puppets that retain some of their chakra, and can still use the skills they possessed in life. Apperntly has used some sort of skill to retain his youth. Originally, his comments to Kankuro and earlier appearances led most fanfic writers to believe he was an old man who had turned himself into some sort of clockwork cyborg, but that's obviously not the case.

The Mysterious Leader, jack and all is known about him but there are already plenty of theories. All we know for sure is that Itachi will follow an order from him unquestiongly without any back talk, which says something about his strength.

So, now that we've reviewed, any other theories as to the remaining three members, or possibly some new or revised theories on the leader?

NeoSapien
07-15-2005, 09:19 PM
Deidara, from Hidden Stone, a blood limit or mutation (most fanfics seem to theorize it's a self-inflicted mutation) that gives him/her the ability to naturally produce a C4-like explosive clay. Funny, before he/she showed, most fanfics theorized the hidden Stone rep in the Akatsuki would be some big hulking guy, and it turns out to be either a female, or an even girlier looking guy than Itachi. Did we ever get any clarification on the whole husband/wife thing that Hidden Sand spy mentioned? It's obviously not between Sasori and Deidara.
It was Deidara who said, "Sasori no danna," which was mistranslated as "Sasori my husband" but is more properly "Master Sasori". Still don't know Deidara's real sex for sure, but I'm leaning towards male after hearing his voice in the anime.

The Mysterious Leader, jack and all is known about him but there are already plenty of theories. All we know for sure is that Itachi will follow an order from him unquestiongly without any back talk, which says something about his strength.
If he's a new character, then he's from the same clan as Kurenai (hence the eyes) and probably not that important to the plot. I would bet on either Orochimaru or Itachi killing him to establish how powerful they are again.

If he's a presumed dead character, I would say Hatake Sakumo, Konoha's White Fang, is the best candidate. Reasons: they were introduced at roughly the same time, have the same hair, we didn't get to see Sakumo's face (and eyes) when there wasn't a reason to hide it, and Sakumo's death is the easiest to explain away. Or at least, easier to explain away than the deaths of the Yondaime Hokage, Obito, Shisui, Rin, and all of the other ridiculous candidates. But a new character is the most likely.

The Real Nemo
07-15-2005, 11:05 PM
Finally read a translation of 268. So the 3rd Kazekage had magnetic powers. Strange, I would have expected a blood limit or special skill like that from someone from Hidden Cloud, not Sand. Makes you wonder what the remaining three Akatsuki members we haven't seen are like.

Let's see, so far we've got:

Itachi from Hidden Leaf, currently the ultimate Sharingan-user and damn good at genjutsu as well as ninjutsu.

Kisame from Hidden Mist, apparently some blood limit or muation that makes him part shark, he's also got massive amounts of chakra considering how powerful his water jutsus were at just 30% of his power. He honestly looked more impressive than Itachi did during the latest arc.

Zetsu, village unknown as we haven't seen his hitai-ate though most have naturally theorized it's Hidden Grass, apparently it's some blood limit or mutation (possibly like the Aburame clan but with plants instead of bugs) that makes him part plant

Deidara, from Hidden Stone, a blood limit or mutation (most fanfics seem to theorize it's a self-inflicted mutation) that gives him/her the ability to naturally produce a C4-like explosive clay. Funny, before he/she showed, most fanfics theorized the hidden Stone rep in the Akatsuki would be some big hulking guy, and it turns out to be either a female, or an even girlier looking guy than Itachi. Did we ever get any clarification on the whole husband/wife thing that Hidden Sand spy mentioned? It's obviously not between Sasori and Deidara.

Sasori, from Hidden Sand, an extremely skilled puppet-user, who's mastered a special ritual for turning his victims' (presumably still fresh) corpses into puppets that retain some of their chakra, and can still use the skills they possessed in life. Apperntly has used some sort of skill to retain his youth. Originally, his comments to Kankuro and earlier appearances led most fanfic writers to believe he was an old man who had turned himself into some sort of clockwork cyborg, but that's obviously not the case.

The Mysterious Leader, jack and all is known about him but there are already plenty of theories. All we know for sure is that Itachi will follow an order from him unquestiongly without any back talk, which says something about his strength.

So, now that we've reviewed, any other theories as to the remaining three members, or possibly some new or revised theories on the leader?
Do we know for sure if Orochimaru was ever replaced?

NeoSapien
07-15-2005, 11:29 PM
Do we know for sure if Orochimaru was ever replaced?
He definitely wasn't. There were originally ten Akatsuki, each corresponding to one of the fingers on the giant Akatsuki statue. Each Akatsuki member wears his ring on the same finger that he stands on. Orochimaru's ring was worn on the left pinky, which was empty on the statue when the Akatsuki assembled.

Interesting fact: the symbols on the Akatsuki rings are taken from one set of the nine Onmyou-dou symbols from Japanese mysticism. The leader's symbol, however, is not one of the traditional Onmyou-dou; he has "rei", which translates as either "spirit" or "zero".

MKTerra
07-17-2005, 06:27 PM
Sasori, from Hidden Sand, an extremely skilled puppet-user, who's mastered a special ritual for turning his victims' (presumably still fresh) corpses into puppets that retain some of their chakra, and can still use the skills they possessed in life.In the translation I read, the chakra-retaining puppets are made by puppetizing the victims while they're still alive :eek: At first I thought that must be really painful, but then I figured he probably keeps them unconscious during the process.

Sheldon
07-18-2005, 04:09 PM
Interesting... Leaf Ninja (http://www.leafninja.com/) is reporting that Wendee Lee (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1184) will be doing Naruto's voice.....Kakashi w/ Spike's voice & Naruto w/ Faye's voice! Funny stuff

Hiromi
07-22-2005, 11:46 AM
269 is out

Same thing as the last two chapters, more of the Chiyo/Sakura vs Sasori fight, no comment on the other 5 fights that are going on at the same time. Two notible things.

-Chiyo has replaced parts of her body with puppets, I predicted Sasori has as well earlier on and this doesn't surprise me

-Sakura allows Chiyo to use her as a puppet again as both mother and father puppets are down and out, Sakura reveals she knows how to fight with poison like Shizune.

Ths fight is nice but I hope it concludes in the next chapter, I'd like to see what else is going on as well.


And as for the anime, lets just say I forsee a rash of Mizuki/Iruka pairings, ugh.

Deskad
07-24-2005, 05:50 PM
I have a crazy theory that sasori is now some undead puppet of himself kept alive by a jutsu. An d that that's the reason he didn't age.

Mark my words.

Seems I was right in the ragards that he has used some puppet jutsu to keep himself young.

Hiromi
07-24-2005, 09:46 PM
That hasn't been revealed yet =p

Oh and for the record you're probably right anyway.

G_Man
07-25-2005, 06:08 PM
Yeah, when he saw that Chiyo has puppetized parts of herself, he said something to the effect of "Great minds think alike." That sort of implies he's done the same thing to himself to an unknown extent.

G_Man
07-28-2005, 11:40 AM
Woot! Read the RAW of 270! Sakura kicks ass! She seems to have saved the day, even with Chiyo being unable to help her fight anymore. Maybe now we can finally get to the other fights.

One last note though. Has Jiraiya taught Naruto anything other than jutsus? Like maybe strategy or at least how to keep a cool head? For goodness sake, we see him letting himself and Kakashi get lured away from the Chiyo/Sakura/Sasori fight by Deidara. At least Kakashi seemed to show some concern for how the girls were faring, Naruto looks like he's too mad to think straight. :mad:

Sheldon
07-28-2005, 11:46 AM
Yes she kicks some serious butt. I like how she is gaining confidence and holding her own.

I can't wait to see what Kakashi has in store!

G_Man
07-28-2005, 04:12 PM
Even better than her confidence, she was thinking practically three steps ahead of a member of the Akatsuki:

Relying on Chiyo to help her dodge so she wouldn't have to rely on her medical skills too soon.

Figuring out Sasori's attack patterns by memorizing how the puppet moves in conjunction with how his fingers moved was a trick worthy of Shikamaru (like when he figured out Tayuya's attack pattern by how her fingers were placed on her flute).

Lastly, waiting until Sasori had finally dropped his guard before revealing her trump card, a cure-all antidote that grants the user 3 minutes of immunity to any poison, it was all beautiful.

The new Sakura is the shiznit... damn shame Naruto is acting like the same hotheaded moron he was 2 1/2 years earlier, though. Oh, well, at least we finally get an excuse to see Kakashi's new jutsu.

Hiromi
07-28-2005, 08:36 PM
I enjoyed this chapter, and I <3 Kankuro's new look.

And G Man summed up what made Sakura so awesome in this chapter quite well.

MKTerra
08-01-2005, 05:20 PM
Hmm, scanslation's lagging this time :(

Anyway, thought I'd drop off this animated gif (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=narutosasukepunchanim5jm.gif) I came across of Sasuke eating knuckle sandwich :p

MKTerra
08-01-2005, 11:05 PM
Neat, thanks! :)

Jack
08-02-2005, 04:35 AM
Tip, when you can't find the current scanlation on the regular sites, check Narutofan's forums instead, they have both translations and low quality scanlations available. Not the pay for variety either.
Yup, just come along every week to the Konoha Library, conveniently modded by none other than me.

Doom
08-02-2005, 06:15 PM
The Manga has been rocking lately in this Sakura battle. It'll be great when they animate it.

Speaking of animation, I really like this current filler arc. It's far more interesting then the last one with the fake Orichimaru.I hope they do more filler arcs focusing on Konhana village/ the other teams so they buy themselves enough time /space for the time slip arc.

G_Man
08-05-2005, 07:01 AM
Just read the RAW of 271 and it's confirmed, Sasori did indeed puppetize most of his entire body. Among other tricks, he's got an artificial intestine that can be used as a whip with a spike at the tip (and I thought Kimimaro's spine whip was gross), and flame throwers built into his hands.

Still wish we could see more of Team Gai's fights. It'd be interesting to see how they could beat their doppelgangers. I can see Lee and Gai busting out the Gates (doubt the copies can mimic that), and I can see Neji coming up with a new application for one of his old tricks to beat his copy, but how the hell is Ten Ten supposed to win? Stall until the others help her gangstomp her copy?

Deskad
08-05-2005, 08:20 AM
Just read the RAW of 271 and it's confirmed, Sasori did indeed puppetize most of his entire body. Among other tricks, he's got an artificial intestine that can be used as a whip with a spike at the tip (and I thought Kimimaro's spine whip was gross), and flame throwers built into his hands.

Still wish we could see more of Team Gai's fights. It'd be interesting to see how they could beat their doppelgangers. I can see Lee and Gai busting out the Gates (doubt the copies can mimic that), and I can see Neji coming up with a new application for one of his old tricks to beat his copy, but how the hell is Ten Ten supposed to win? Stall until the others help her gangstomp her copy?

-gives himself a gold medal-

I was right!

Sheldon
08-05-2005, 08:58 AM
I am diggin the fight in 271. It looks like Chiyo didn't take her antidote. So she'll probably give it to sakura.

Hiromi
08-05-2005, 10:10 AM
Sasori's true body looks real nifty, and that intestine whip is brutal. Hopefully this fight will wrap in the next chapter, and also it looks like Kakashi is read to make his move on Deidara.

Lord Darkwolf
08-05-2005, 12:41 PM
COME HERE !!!!! GET OVER HERE !!!




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What ? :p

G_Man
08-05-2005, 08:19 PM
COME HERE !!!!! GET OVER HERE !!!




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What ? :p

Nothing. It's not like you were the only one thinking it afterall. :D

Doom
08-09-2005, 10:05 AM
Sasori's true body looks real nifty, and that intestine whip is brutal. Hopefully this fight will wrap in the next chapter, and also it looks like Kakashi is read to make his move on Deidara.


Kakashi talking about how he's as smart as Shikamaru....

Arrogence much?

Melchior
08-09-2005, 10:15 AM
Kakashi talking about how he's as smart as Shikamaru....

Arrogence much?

Not really. Kakashi graduated from the chuunin exam at, what, age five? That gives him much more practical experience then Shikamaru, some of which was gained in a full-fledged ninja war. He obviously has the skills, and at least more original initiative than Shikamaru.

Not saying that Shikamaru won't catch up, but at this time in this type of battle Kakashi would probably be more useful.

Doom
08-09-2005, 11:31 AM
Not really. Kakashi graduated from the chuunin exam at, what, age five? That gives him much more practical experience then Shikamaru, some of which was gained in a full-fledged ninja war. He obviously has the skills, and at least more original initiative than Shikamaru.

Not saying that Shikamaru won't catch up, but at this time in this type of battle Kakashi would probably be more useful.


I put Kakashi/Itachi graduating their Chuunin exams at such young ages not because they were ungodly good ninjas (they were) but because there were major wars on and they needed more meat for the grinder.

Yes Kakashi has more battle field xp then Shikamaru, but the way he was talking he was basically saying "the only way you could come up with a stratagy to defeat this guy is if you were as smart as Shikimaru. Now I don't like to brag, but I consider myself smarter then him."

Hiromi
08-09-2005, 01:33 PM
I put Kakashi/Itachi graduating their Chuunin exams at such young ages not because they were ungodly good ninjas (they were) but because there were major wars on and they needed more meat for the grinder.

Yes Kakashi has more battle field xp then Shikamaru, but the way he was talking he was basically saying "the only way you could come up with a stratagy to defeat this guy is if you were as smart as Shikimaru. Now I don't like to brag, but I consider myself smarter then him."

According to the Official Manga Guide Book they both have a 5 rating for intelligence so basically he was stating a fact *shrugs*

HynerianChef
08-18-2005, 02:55 PM
New Naruto filler ep... and I actually liked it. Only skimmed it so far, but it seemed to have a bunch of nice character moments, like Sakura training, the Kiba-Shino-Hinata team visiting Kurenai at the hospital and tons of Hyuuga stuff. Speaking of that, the next arc (that started in this double-bill) has Shino leading Kiba, Hinata and Naruto on a mission to find a rare bug that has special tracking properties. The plan being to then use it to find Sasuke.

It's pretty clear this arc is going to pander to Hinata fans a whole lot*, and those who like the Naruto-Hinata pairing will likely drool at the scene where Naruto unknowingly gets a peep at a naked Hinata (doesn't recognize her though). More interesting than this, though, is the fact that Hinata is apparently raising in power considerably. She's close to mastering her family's secret defense technique, and it's been hinted she's developing a new technique herself. Neji, at least, didn't seem to recognize it.

I wonder if Hinata's father knows about this, though. At one point of the episode, he told Neji that he was going to ask him to watch over Hinata, as it would aid his training. This could mean that he either knows that Hinata is developing a new move and wants Neji to learn it, or that he thinks that protecting/teaching Hinata will provide Neji with more insight on his own powers. Or something else entirely, I guess, since on a later part of the episode he acted like a jerk and told Hinata not to get in anyone's way in her mission. I kinda suspect that the 'different training' he mentioned Neji was going to do is going to involve secretly following Shino's team and helping out when in trouble.

Edit: * - Not that there's anything wrong with that, since I'm one of them.

MKTerra
08-18-2005, 03:47 PM
Sasuke gif (http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=narutosasukeboobsuanim8tl.gif)... heh heh.

Hiromi
08-18-2005, 04:37 PM
I'm torn, I want them to show Gaiden, but I also want to see Shino and Hinata get airtime :/

G_Man
08-18-2005, 06:48 PM
Re: Chap 272 -

Sasori (paraphrased) - "It is said you once defeated an entire fortress with your 10 Chakamatsu puppets, Chiya-baa... unfortunately for you, this jutsu of mine once defeated an entire country! Performance of 100 Puppets!"

:eek: Ohhhhhhh, crap! Chiyo and Sakura be screwed! I take back what I said about Sasori being one of the weakest Akatsuki. An entire army of poison filled, weapon loaded puppets is nothing to sneeze at...

Hiromi
08-18-2005, 06:57 PM
Yeah, Sasori is one bad mutha. Though frankly I'm about ready for this fight to just end.

G_Man
08-18-2005, 08:22 PM
Yeah, Sasori is one bad mutha. Though frankly I'm about ready for this fight to just end.

It wouldn't be so bad if we could just see the other fights as well... Heck, at least let us see what the Akatsuki thinks about it (show us them watching the fight), maybe introduce the last three we haven't seen?

MKTerra
08-25-2005, 12:06 AM
Hmm, interesting... check this out:

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5363/narutocbmoviecompare9zk.th.jpg (http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=narutocbmoviecompare9zk.jpg)

Hiromi
08-25-2005, 07:14 AM
Perhaps the basis of Jyuuken for the Naruto animators is Jeet Kune Do

Also there's a new list for the Naruto Dubbers
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1825

Kate Higgins as Sakura
Maile Flanagan as Naruto
Yuri Lowenthal as Sasuke
Dave Wittenberg as Kakashi
Stephanie Sheh as Hinata Hyuuga
Cindy Robinson as Tsunami
Colleen O’Shaughnessey as Ino Yamanaka, Konohamaru
Doug Ehrholtz as Asuma
Fred Tatasciore as Gato
Kirk Thornton as Tazuna
Quinton Flynn as Iruka
Robbie Rist as Choji
Steve Kramer as Hokage
Steven Blum as Zabuza
Tom Gibbas as Shikamaru

Surprised and a bit disapointed that Blum isn't doing Kakashi, though he does fit Zabuza pretty well.

Hiromi
08-26-2005, 12:28 PM
Well THAT was an interesting chapter...

Chiyo's puppets rock.

Captain Sarcasm
08-26-2005, 12:58 PM
Handy Voice Credits:

Kate Higgins as Sakura

Um... stuff? She was Kololu in Zatch Bell.

Maile Flanagan as Naruto

Practically unkown.

Yuri Lowenthal as Sasuke

Haru Glory from Rave Master, and the Prince from Prince of Persia: Sands of Time.

Dave Wittenberg as Kakashi

Allen Ridgely in Xenosaga, Sora in the .HACK franchise, Kikaider from the Anime, Speed Racer in the new series and Ponygon/Schneider in Zatch Bell.

Stephanie Sheh as Hinata Hyuuga

Not much.

Cindy Robinson as Tsunami

Ditto.

Colleen O’Shaughnessey as Ino Yamanaka, Konohamaru

Sora from Digimon, Suzy from Zatch Bell

Doug Ehrholtz as Asuma
Fred Tatasciore as Gato

Both unkowns.

Kirk Thornton as Tazuna

Matthews in Xenosaga, Orca in .HACK, Jin in Samurai Champloo, Seta in Love Hina, Saito in Rurnouni Kenshin.

Quinton Flynn as Iruka

Raiden in Metal Gear Soild 2

Robbie Rist as Choji

Nothin' major.

Steve Kramer as Hokage

Lots of bit roles and such.

Steven Blum as Zabuza

If you don't know who he is, what exactly are you doing here?

Tom Gibbas as Shikamaru

Another unknown.

Surprised and a bit disapointed that Blum isn't doing Kakashi, though he does fit Zabuza pretty well.

I think it's better... Blum is better at more... more bitter and sarcastic roles. I always saw Kakashi as a calmer, more wise person.

I also like that they're mostly using unknowns and bit actors as the main characters. It could be good for the industry to get some fresh blood in, and good for the characters since they won't be overpowered by overly familiar voices.

Melchior
08-26-2005, 10:10 PM
Dave Wittenberg as Kakashi -

Also did Virgil from Xenosaga II and Cliff Fittir from Star Ocean 3 in addition to the ones listed by Captain Sarcasm, so he's got some range.

Hiromi
09-01-2005, 09:09 PM
Manga's taking a while this week, so I'll talk about the anime. Despite being underwhelmed by the last filler arc i'm really liking this one so far, competent villians not in any way related to Orochimaru(so far), Genins not overwhelming more experienced Shinobi, Hinata, Shino, and Kiba getting more screen time, new techs for Shino and Hinata, like it alot.

Sheldon
09-02-2005, 07:14 AM
Yes the fights finally over!!!!!

Hiromi
09-02-2005, 09:58 AM
Just wow, even if I did want this fight to end the way it did end just tugged on the heart strings.

G_Man
09-02-2005, 11:36 AM
Just wow, even if I did want this fight to end the way it did end just tugged on the heart strings.

Only read the RAW but yeah, it looked like Chiyo and Sasori had as close as they were gonna get to a reconciliation as they are both dying together.

G_Man
09-02-2005, 04:07 PM
And just read the chapter translated. Ouch. That was just about a Twilight Zone level twist at the end there (and I mean a good episode of the Twilight Zone).

MKTerra
09-03-2005, 01:17 AM
Dang, Naruto's good that way :( Nice touch using Mother and Father to pin him.

Hiromi
09-06-2005, 04:25 PM
So how's the dub? I'm unable to watch it due to work difficulties.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Mikael_Belfrage/Hentai/Naruto_Kunai.jpg

The Real Nemo
09-06-2005, 04:37 PM
So how's the dub? I'm unable to watch it due to work difficulties.
We won't know until Saturday...

Hiromi
09-06-2005, 04:39 PM
I thought it was last Saturday, heh. What about the trailors floating around?

MKTerra
09-06-2005, 05:46 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Mikael_Belfrage/Hentai/Naruto_Kunai.jpgHeh heh... :D

The Real Nemo
09-06-2005, 08:59 PM
I thought it was last Saturday, heh. What about the trailors floating around?
Didn't hear much of the characters voices on the one I saw...

MKTerra
09-07-2005, 01:08 AM
Preview clip linky (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/video/toonami/index.html)

G_Man
09-07-2005, 07:17 AM
So how's the dub? I'm unable to watch it due to work difficulties.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/Mikael_Belfrage/Hentai/Naruto_Kunai.jpg

This made my day! :D

jboncha
09-07-2005, 06:33 PM
I recently decided to grab the first volume of this book and give it a day in court.
The storyline seems like it might be pretty good but it has that classic DBZ look (which I dont neccesarily like) and has even been compared to DBZ in many reviews.
I find that I like artwork that isnt so stereotypically manga and I also like the stories that are maybe a bit more sci-fi and/or crime based.
Here are sum of the books I'm really liking now - BLAME!, Biomega, Jiraishin, MPD Psycho, Gantz, & Zetman.
Do you think i'd like Naruto?
I have d/l-ed One Piece & Kingdom Hearts which also have that streotypical manga artwork but could be great stories but havent read much of them yet because I have other books to read.
I guess if I'm gonna get into sum good stories I may have to put aside my tastes and give these books a chance.






J B

Captain Sarcasm
09-07-2005, 07:56 PM
Preview clip linky (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/tv_shows/video/toonami/index.html)

Sounds pretty good to me.

jboncha
09-09-2005, 12:10 AM
I read the first few chapters of the book and watched the first epeisode of the anime of Naruto today.
They both have that standard manga style but they seemed to have a pretty good storyline.
I might actually buy the book and the anime sum time down the line.
I'm reading Bleach right now and that seems to be pretty good too.





J B

G_Man
09-09-2005, 07:52 AM
I read the first few chapters of the book and watched the first epeisode of the anime of Naruto today.
They both have that standard manga style but they seemed to have a pretty good storyline.
I might actually buy the book and the anime sum time down the line.
I'm reading Bleach right now and that seems to be pretty good too.





J B

Problem with the American translations is, they're kinda... bad. Seriously, it's got to be the most poorly translated of the American Shonen Jump mangas. I can't fathom why that is the case, but there you have it...

Jared_Humpherys
09-09-2005, 08:52 AM
HUGE SPOILERS!















Don't look unless you really mean it!











Okay, you asked for it:
http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/3417/sharingannew6qm.jpg :eek: :eek: :eek:

G_Man
09-09-2005, 10:09 AM
I know, I just saw the RAW! Holy crap, Kakashi has the Mangekyou, or at least an approximation of it!!!

Hiromi
09-09-2005, 11:58 AM
Deidara is one dead gender confusing person...

Sheldon
09-09-2005, 01:07 PM
I'm hoping Kakashi's new eye jutsu has nothing to do with the Mangekyou...

NeoSapien
09-09-2005, 01:27 PM
I'm hoping Kakashi's new eye jutsu has nothing to do with the Mangekyou...
It must have something to do with the Mangekyou. Take away the remnants of the inner ring on Kakashi's new eye, and you have Itachi's Mangekyou.

Hiromi
09-09-2005, 02:45 PM
Shikamaru of Leaf Ninja made a thumbnail of it http://s4.invisionfree.com/LeafNinjaForums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=10263884

Sheldon
09-12-2005, 06:39 PM
It looks like shuriken.....one of the those cool belt buckle/shurikens....

G_Man
09-14-2005, 07:41 PM
Incidentally, it's now clear that Gaara will survive, albeit without Shukaku's influence anymore (poor guy will finally get a decent night's sleep).

Chiyo has a ressurection tech and still has enough life left to use it to restore Gaara.

Hiromi
09-14-2005, 07:49 PM
Which is almost undoubtedly the final task she mentioned

Hiromi
09-15-2005, 04:17 PM
http://gendou.com/crap/mrtvs/naruto/

eh, it was ok but I've seen better Mr T fights

Cowlander
09-15-2005, 04:23 PM
Oh man Kishi is god, the hate over the latest chapters is strong. I love this series :D

G_Man
09-16-2005, 07:30 AM
Just read 276! HOLY CRAP!! The sheer twinkiness of the Sharingan knows no bounds!! Kakashi, with only one Mangekyou, was able to use a jutsu that bends space ala a miniture black hole to blow away Deidara's arm from a distance!

Sheldon
09-16-2005, 10:39 AM
Yeah 276 was awesome, I loved how Deidara underestimated NAruto and then gets decked!

Hiromi
09-16-2005, 11:36 AM
heh, by blow away G Man is being quite literal, the arms is GONE. Deidara is now helpless, one limp arm, one, well thats her one arm altogether. Can't form seals, can't use clay, and Naruto. is. pissed. That person with he confusing gender is so dead...

theredrodian
09-18-2005, 11:09 AM
anyone got any idea how kakashi got the mangekyou? maybe something to do with obito?

Jared_Humpherys
09-18-2005, 11:19 AM
anyone got any idea how kakashi got the mangekyou? maybe something to do with obito?

It's possible, although thsi certanly isn't your typical mangekyou. My hypothesis is that this sharingan was developed out of grief. The real question is: since the mangekyou of Itachi can supposedly affect anyone not of Uchiha blood, can Kakashi's new sharingan resist it?

Cowlander
09-18-2005, 11:27 AM
He got it from Itachi, when they first fought. Considering the state people are in afterwards, it usually leads to death. So its easy to see how it might not have been known if it was copiable. But since Kak actually survived that encounter he should have gotten it.

Hopefully the different version he uses has to do with Obito, but it could just be something he developed.

Jared_Humpherys
09-18-2005, 11:30 AM
He got it from Itachi, when they first fought. Considering the state people are in afterwards, it usually leads to death. So its easy to see how it might not have been known if it was copiable. But since Kak actually survived that encounter he should have gotten it.

Hopefully the different version he uses has to do with Obito, but it could just be something he developed.


But the mangekyou is a bloodline power, and Kakashi cannot duplicate bloodline abilities.

Now, it is possible that, after surviving it, he found a way to reverse-engineer it...

Hiromi
09-18-2005, 11:53 AM
The only evidence for it being the mangekyou we have is a fan translated word in the last chapter, both the look of the Sharingan and the jutsu its used in are unlike anything Itachi used, so until Kakashi actually explains what it is I think we should hold off on the ZOMG Kakashi has mangekyou! talk.

G_Man
09-18-2005, 09:17 PM
The only evidence for it being the mangekyou we have is a fan translated word in the last chapter, both the look of the Sharingan and the jutsu its used in are unlike anything Itachi used, so until Kakashi actually explains what it is I think we should hold off on the ZOMG Kakashi has mangekyou! talk.

Maybe it's the translation I read, but in the chapter, Deidara comments that he' surprised Kakashi can use the same doujutsu attack as Itachi, implying Itachi knows the space-bending jutsu Kakashi used as well (or at least something similar)!

Cowlander
09-18-2005, 09:42 PM
But the mangekyou is a bloodline power, and Kakashi cannot duplicate bloodline abilities.

Now, it is possible that, after surviving it, he found a way to reverse-engineer it...
Technically the eye itself is the bloodline. The mango is simply a jutsu. It has conditions, which honesty seem just to state you get it with a certain mindset.

But its still simply a jutsu. A jutsu based on having a certain bloodlimit. Which thanks to Obito Kak has. Outside of Kishi saying Kak cant have mango, " cuz ah say so". Theres no real reason for him not to be able to.

Hiromi
09-22-2005, 12:22 AM
Maybe it's the translation I read, but in the chapter, Deidara comments that he' surprised Kakashi can use the same doujutsu attack as Itachi, implying Itachi knows the space-bending jutsu Kakashi used as well (or at least something similar)!

in my translation she/he said "To think there'd be someone who uses Doujutsu on the same level as Itachi," which doesn't seem to imply that it's the same jutsus Itachi uses, instead an attack on par with the ones he does.

Hiromi
09-22-2005, 02:00 AM
On an anime note, it looks like we're going to have two good filler arcs in a row, opening episode for the Team Gai arc was a good one.

Hiromi
09-22-2005, 05:01 PM
Just read the 277 raw, all I've got to say is Holy sh*t!

Let;s just say that Deidara's assumption that Naruto wasn't a problem, just Kakashi, was a really, really half ass assumption.





Spoilers below












http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/jmjon9/Comic%20Images/JOJO_008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/jmjon9/Comic%20Images/Ch277Teaser.gif

G_Man
09-22-2005, 07:33 PM
As utterly cool as Naruto's eyes look in that pic (now that's a gaze that would have me wetting myself), I gotta say I'm disappointed that that crappy-looking fox-shaped aura has made a reappearance. Those ears just look ridiculous, and the tails aren't much better.

Melchior
09-22-2005, 10:16 PM
Has there been any indication what Deidara's left eye does? The one shot that I can remember has that covered area looking VERY different from the rest of the face.

Naruto also needs to drop the bubbly aura thing, looks silly.

G_Man
09-23-2005, 05:30 AM
Has there been any indication what Deidara's left eye does? The one shot that I can remember has that covered area looking VERY different from the rest of the face.

Naruto also needs to drop the bubbly aura thing, looks silly.

His left eye appears to be some sort of mini-periscope/goggles looking device. Looks almost like a scouter from Dragonball Z, but I have no clue what it does.

Hiromi
09-23-2005, 10:51 AM
Something interesting that i noticed(after reading the translation) is that we can be sure Kawarimi no Jutsu doesn't require hand seals, as Deidara was able to utilize it.

G_Man
09-23-2005, 09:55 PM
Something interesting that i noticed(after reading the translation) is that we can be sure Kawarimi no Jutsu doesn't require hand seals, as Deidara was able to utilize it.

To be fair, Haku was capable of one-handed seals, though, in the case of Deidara, this is just a theory of mine, but we've seen shinobi pull out bunshins of all types and switch with them so fast that we apparently couldn't see the hand seals.

Personally, I've always theorized that if you truly mastered a jutsu, then you could perform it without hand seals, as the hand seals only real purpose is to help you mold the chakra for the jutsu. It would explain alot of scenes like that. Afterall, there is at least one high-level jutsu we know of that doesn't require hand seals, the Rasengan, and it's just a matter of molding the chakra with a high degree of skill.

Hiromi
09-23-2005, 10:51 PM
It could have been one handed, however I was under the impression that his/her other arm was still crushed from her fight with Gaara(during his or her short fight with Team Gai she was holding a Kunai in her mouth much like Zabuza was in his last charge). Jiraiya also made a big deal about the no hand seals being required of Ransengan which leads me to infer its not very common, Naruto's now been using Kage Bunshin for several years, to the point that it really is the central core to his fighting style, and still he uses the hand seal for it. I mostly thought of this due to its rumbles application, as IIRC some yahoo was making a big deal about it in the Kenshin vs Kakashi thread.

Jared_Humpherys
09-24-2005, 08:38 AM
Interesting chapter.

So Naruto now has to use a seal to prevent too much Kyuubi chakra getting through. Interesting. I wonder how many tails he has produced during his 3 year training? Could this be related to the jitsu the pervent senin was asking Naruto to avoid? And it looks like Deidara decided to opt for a suicide strike. Who will end up shielding them from the blast? My guess is Gaara, perhaps subconsciously

G_Man
09-24-2005, 07:36 PM
Interesting chapter.

So Naruto now has to use a seal to prevent too much Kyuubi chakra getting through. Interesting. I wonder how many tails he has produced during his 3 year training? Could this be related to the jitsu the pervent senin was asking Naruto to avoid? And it looks like Deidara decided to opt for a suicide strike. Who will end up shielding them from the blast? My guess is Gaara, perhaps subconsciously

How? Without Shukaku within him he shouldn't be able to.

Jared_Humpherys
09-24-2005, 08:01 PM
How? Without Shukaku within him he shouldn't be able to.

Not if he uses the sand in his gourd that's fused with his own chakra.

G_Man
09-25-2005, 06:39 AM
Not if he uses the sand in his gourd that's fused with his own chakra.

He's not carrying his gourd. When they came in, he was lying on his back on the ground with Deidara using him as a makeshift chair.

Jared_Humpherys
09-25-2005, 07:57 AM
He's not carrying his gourd. When they came in, he was lying on his back on the ground with Deidara using him as a makeshift chair.

Ahh, good point. So the question remains: how ARE they going to get out of this?

Hiromi
09-25-2005, 09:03 AM
I'm sure Kishimoto could write a way for that to happen, Shukaku leaving an imprint of itself within Gaara or something, as no Jinchuuriki has ever survived being parted with their Bijuu he isn't limited by precedent or something. Not saying that will happen or its likely just that it could.

Hiromi
09-29-2005, 11:50 AM
annnnd 278s out

Kakashi's new jutsu has three shots it seems, though it drains him of chakra to the point he has trouble standing up, smart work on his part to contain the explosion. Naruto chewing out Chiyo was pretty good(though frankly Lee's been way too quiet), next chapter, Gaara's coming back baby!

Deskad
09-30-2005, 08:09 PM
Today, for the first time, I have seen dubbed Naruto, and my reaction was...


WHAT THE HELL?? From what people were saying, I thought it would be decent, but NO, NO IT WAS NOT! Bored, emotionless, out of tone, overdone voices, god, I wanted to hit something, it was awful.

Rot in hell dubbing companies, rot in hell!!!

Captain Sarcasm
09-30-2005, 08:16 PM
Today, for the first time, I have seen dubbed Naruto, and my reaction was...


WHAT THE HELL?? From what people were saying, I thought it would be decent, but NO, NO IT WAS NOT! Bored, emotionless, out of tone, overdone voices, god, I wanted to hit something, it was awful.

Rot in hell dubbing companies, rot in hell!!!

Yeah... y'know that the guys that actually made the show prefer the English voices to the Japanese voices?

Deskad
10-01-2005, 01:09 AM
Yeah... y'know that the guys that actually made the show prefer the English voices to the Japanese voices?
Uh huh? That still doesen't change my opinion.

Captain Sarcasm
10-01-2005, 01:46 AM
Uh huh? That still doesen't change my opinion.

Didn't expect it to, really. Just thought this was an appropriate place to put that.

MKTerra
10-01-2005, 05:58 PM
I think the voice acting isn't so bad... Sasuke doesn't sound quite natural (yet), and Naruto says "believe it!" way too much (intentionally?), but... :)

LoneWolf21
10-02-2005, 12:01 AM
Yeah... y'know that the guys that actually made the show prefer the English voices to the Japanese voices?


Really? The people who made the show over in Japan said that? Huh. Pretty interesting. Where did you hear that?

Deskad
10-02-2005, 12:52 PM
Really? The people who made the show over in Japan said that? Huh. Pretty interesting. Where did you hear that?

Also, that could have something to do with engrish being trendy in Japan.

Captain Sarcasm
10-02-2005, 04:17 PM
Also, that could have something to do with engrish being trendy in Japan.

And something similar to how someone can prefer something in a language that they don't speak. All they hear are the sounds, but they only have an approximation of what the people are actually saying. This phenomena is entirely responsible for the musical career of David Hasslehoff.

Captain Sarcasm
10-02-2005, 04:19 PM
I think the voice acting isn't so bad... Sasuke doesn't sound quite natural (yet), and Naruto says "believe it!" way too much (intentionally?), but... :)

Yeah, that's intentional.

Captain Sarcasm
10-02-2005, 04:21 PM
Today, for the first time, I have seen dubbed Naruto, and my reaction was...


WHAT THE HELL?? From what people were saying, I thought it would be decent, but NO, NO IT WAS NOT! Bored, emotionless, out of tone, overdone voices, god, I wanted to hit something, it was awful.

Rot in hell dubbing companies, rot in hell!!!

Also, after rewatching the latest episode, I still think that the characters show appropriate levels of emotion, and the only ones that sound bored (Sasuke and Kakashi half the time) do so because they're supposed to. I also wonder how a voice can be bored and emotionless yet still be overdone, as the two are mutually exclusive.

You want to hear a bored and emotionless voice, listen to Dubbed Sanji. And if you want to hear an overdone voice, listen to every other dubbed OP voice, save Zoro.

Naruto, oh the other hand, is a damn good dub. The characters sound like they're supposed to, when they're supposed to, and any alterations are the minimal needed to get it on a show and make it comprehensible to an american audience.

Deskad
10-02-2005, 05:12 PM
Also, after rewatching the latest episode, I still think that the characters show appropriate levels of emotion, and the only ones that sound bored (Sasuke and Kakashi half the time) do so because they're supposed to. I also wonder how a voice can be bored and emotionless yet still be overdone, as the two are mutually exclusive.

You want to hear a bored and emotionless voice, listen to Dubbed Sanji. And if you want to hear an overdone voice, listen to every other dubbed OP voice, save Zoro.

Naruto, oh the other hand, is a damn good dub. The characters sound like they're supposed to, when they're supposed to, and any alterations are the minimal needed to get it on a show and make it comprehensible to an american audience.


I found Iruka's voice emotionless, and Sakura squeaky beyond my tolerance point.

Hiromi
10-02-2005, 05:22 PM
Good thing Iruka only appears in a handful of episodes a season, and no one cares about pre time skip Sakura anyway.

Captain Sarcasm
10-02-2005, 06:13 PM
I found Iruka's voice emotionless, and Sakura squeaky beyond my tolerance point.

Well yeah, I agree with you about Iruka, but after listening to Kaouru, Cherise and Sasami, Sakura sounds like those soothing "Sounds of nature" albums.

Deskad
10-02-2005, 06:24 PM
Well yeah, I agree with you about Iruka, but after listening to Kaouru, Cherise and Sasami, Sakura sounds like those soothing "Sounds of nature" albums.
I can't argue, I haven't heard those other people's dubs, and from the sounds of it, thank god.

I said it before, I'll say it again, Fansubs forever.

However, when it comes to bad, and I mean really bad dubbing, Russia is a worse offender. Russian dubs are shit!

Cowlander
10-03-2005, 12:00 AM
The voices arent a problem. I think Nar is right, his voice sounds youthful and has the rasp that the Jap voice has.

Except its gonna take some time to get used to Kak's voice. I keep waiting for him to say "Yuuuugiiii BooYYYYYYYYY" and pull out a blue eyes card. Its just wrong he has the laid back but none of the badass in it that the Jap voice has. None of the "still waters run deep" I quess.

The Real Nemo
10-03-2005, 12:47 AM
Today, for the first time, I have seen dubbed Naruto, and my reaction was...


WHAT THE HELL?? From what people were saying, I thought it would be decent, but NO, NO IT WAS NOT! Bored, emotionless, out of tone, overdone voices, god, I wanted to hit something, it was awful.

Rot in hell dubbing companies, rot in hell!!!
It seems to me if you felt that way about it either your expectations were way too high or you'll just never be satisfied with any English dub ever...

Deskad
10-03-2005, 08:46 PM
It seems to me if you felt that way about it either your expectations were way too high or you'll just never be satisfied with any English dub ever...

I preferred Onegai Teacher's dub over the Japanese it was that good.

Naruto was.... I still can't get over it.

Hiromi
10-06-2005, 03:32 PM
279's out

Lots of talking, which is bad when you only have the raw, however three huge things:

GAARA"S BAAAAAAAAAACK!

Kakashi obviously copied the ressurection jutsu going by page 4, which is interesting

We get our best look at the Sand Shinobi EVER

The Real Nemo
10-08-2005, 01:21 AM
I preferred Onegai Teacher's dub over the Japanese it was that good.

Naruto was.... I still can't get over it.
*shrugs* Well, all I can say is that I didn't really have any problem with the voices. I thought they suited the characters very well...

G_Man
10-08-2005, 06:56 AM
279's out

We get our best look at the Sand Shinobi EVER

Agreed. Considering how the council was already discussing replacing Gaara not more than a few days after his kidnapping, the scene at the end there was really touching. Those guys really are loyal.

MKTerra
10-08-2005, 11:41 PM
They got the Sand and Stone village symbols mixed up in the latest dubbed ep... whoops.

Hiromi
10-13-2005, 09:21 PM
Whoo! 280s out

Any talk about replacing Gaara seems to be moot, Temari made it quite clear he was still the Kazekage

Deidara live! ZOMG!

New character, looks to be an underling to Zetsu much like Yura was to Sasori, Akatsuki appears a good deal larger than originally thought. His name's Tobi, so naturally Narutofan was erupting with ZOMG ITS OBITO! stupitidy, if it is Obito I'm going to be pissed.

Ebizou's expresion and comments about Chiyo being dead brought a tear to my eye

And most importantly, above all else, Gaara has his own club of fangirls

Sheldon
10-14-2005, 12:48 PM
I'm curious about the extent of Gaara's abilities post shukakku.

G_Man
10-14-2005, 04:45 PM
Whoo! 280s out

Any talk about replacing Gaara seems to be moot, Temari made it quite clear he was still the Kazekage

Deidara live! ZOMG!

New character, looks to be an underling to Zetsu much like Yura was to Sasori, Akatsuki appears a good deal larger than originally thought. His name's Tobi, so naturally Narutofan was erupting with ZOMG ITS OBITO! stupitidy, if it is Obito I'm going to be pissed.

Ebizou's expresion and comments about Chiyo being dead brought a tear to my eye

And most importantly, above all else, Gaara has his own club of fangirls

Tis' jaw. :D
*dance, character limit, DANCE!!*

Hiromi
10-14-2005, 10:26 PM
Tis' jaw. :D
*dance, character limit, DANCE!!*
I wish Damien still posted here, he probably got a kick out of this chapter

Hiromi
10-16-2005, 12:00 PM
If Naruto were made live...

http://narutofever.com/multimedia/naruto-fanart-images/renjiro-sharingan.jpg

Deskad
10-16-2005, 12:44 PM
I'm curious about the extent of Gaara's abilities post shukakku.


He can't do the demoning out thing anymore, but otherwise he just might be more powerful. Naruto is actually hindered by Kiyubi, maybe it was the same for Gaara and Shukaku.

Hiromi
10-16-2005, 12:58 PM
How has Naruto been hindered by Kyuubi other than the social stigma?

Jared_Humpherys
10-16-2005, 12:58 PM
He can't do the demoning out thing anymore, but otherwise he just might be more powerful. Naruto is actually hindered by Kiyubi, maybe it was the same for Gaara and Shukaku.

You mean "Was hindered" by Kyuubi. Overnight healing and an uber-red chakra when pissed don't sound like hindrances to me. Yes, it interfered with his early attempts at chakra control, but he's surpassed that point by far now.

Hiromi
10-16-2005, 12:59 PM
The only point in time it hindered his chakra control was between the time that Orochimaru sealed him in the Evil Forrest till until Jiraiya unsealed it, like 2 fights.

Jared_Humpherys
10-16-2005, 01:01 PM
How has Naruto been hindered by Kyuubi other than the social stigma?

When Naruto was training with the pervert sannin in prep for the Chunin exam, he mentioned that the sealed Kyuubi was interfering with his chakra flow(the extra seal by Orochimaru just made it worse). This is why he was so inept at jutsus at the start of the series.

Hiromi
10-16-2005, 01:02 PM
When Naruto was training with the pervert sannin in prep for the Chunin exam, he mentioned that the sealed Kyuubi was interfering with his chakra flow. This is why he was so inept at jutsus at the start of the series.

It wasn't the Kyuubi, it was the 5 point seal orochimaru had hit him with during stage two of the Chuunin exam, which conflicted with the six point seal that kept the Kyuubi in him.

Jared_Humpherys
10-16-2005, 01:44 PM
It wasn't the Kyuubi, it was the 5 point seal orochimaru had hit him with during stage two of the Chuunin exam, which conflicted with the six point seal that kept the Kyuubi in him.

I need to reread that chapter and post some pics: I could've sworn that Jiraya mentioned the Kyuubi interfering with Naruto's early development.

Edit: Can't check the manga since I'm at work, but there is the following from wikipedia:

There are downsides to the huge chakra load that is Kyūbi; like most of the biggest weapons, it can't be lifted, let alone wielded, with ease. Naruto is a relatively small container that cannot quite handle the whole of Kyūbi's chakra, which might account for Naruto's inability to control and focus chakra consistently for jutsu during his days at the academy. Even later, when Naruto learns to better control his chakra, any technique relying on Kyūbi's chakra to work properly runs a chance of failing, as it takes great conviction or control on Naruto's part to draw Kyūbi's chakra effectively. However, Naruto's Chakra and Kyūbi's chakra are slowly fusing and are expected to eventually become one, which is bound to drastically change this status-quo.

Hiromi
10-16-2005, 04:09 PM
Sounds wrong to me, but then thats the problem with Wikipedia. Dug up the scans concerning it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/jmjon9/Comic%20Images/chapter091_12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/jmjon9/Comic%20Images/chapter091_13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/jmjon9/Comic%20Images/chapter091_14.jpg

Hiromi
10-20-2005, 12:44 PM
281's out. New character, lots of comedy. Kakashi is never going to live this down.

Deskad
10-20-2005, 01:29 PM
That new character, looks sorta like....

NeoSapien
10-20-2005, 10:18 PM
That new character, looks sorta like....
...Sasuke?

...Seta Soujirou?

...a girl? (But only sorta, we've had enough hard lessons by now. Damn you and your androgynous ways, Kishimoto!)

Cowlander
10-20-2005, 10:34 PM
Gai for the win....


Please, please let that be a girl. I cant take another Haku, Deidara type char. But atleast Dei talked/acted masculines

Hiromi
10-20-2005, 11:15 PM
Deidara trying to throttle Tobi was one of the chapter's highlights, seems having his arm blown off didn't phase him much.

Chocolove
10-21-2005, 02:54 PM
Hm, would have preferred seeing Team 8 like the fake spoilers indicated. I also would have liked to see Gaara dead, so I guess this isn't my month.

G_Man
10-21-2005, 06:03 PM
...Sasuke?

...Seta Soujirou?

...a girl? (But only sorta, we've had enough hard lessons by now. Damn you and your androgynous ways, Kishimoto!)

Him and a whole load of other anime/manga creators. :evilangry

Deidara trying to throttle Tobi was one of the chapter's highlights, seems having his arm blown off didn't phase him much.

Hah! I loved that scene. Deidara's expressions made it even better. It's nice to see that the Akatsuki have personalities beyond being "evil badasses". Strangely enough, that scene reminded me of the many parody fanfics that portray them in a comedic light.

Hm, would have preferred seeing Team 8 like the fake spoilers indicated. I also would have liked to see Gaara dead, so I guess this isn't my month.

I would have preferred seeing post-time skip Hinata as well (I doubt Kiba and Shino would change enough for it to be notable, aside from Akamaru probably being alot bigger) instead of them introducing this new character. Though the thought of Naruto being on a team with two kunoichis presenst amusing possibilities. The fact that the old guy makes a point of emphazising her being the same age as Naruto leads me to suspect that this girl (God I hope it's really female) may already know about the Kyuubi.

Chocolove
10-21-2005, 09:33 PM
I would have preferred seeing post-time skip Hinata as well (I doubt Kiba and Shino would change enough for it to be notable, aside from Akamaru probably being alot bigger) instead of them introducing this new character. Though the thought of Naruto being on a team with two kunoichis presenst amusing possibilities. The fact that the old guy makes a point of emphazising her being the same age as Naruto leads me to suspect that this girl (God I hope it's really female) may already know about the Kyuubi.

I would prefer for her to be a girl given the new dynamic of a two girl, one guy team. Some think she's the third sharingan user and others think she's a jinchuriki, and others a spy. At any rate, there is definitely a storyline purpose for her existence, so that's something to look forward to.

And out of all of the genin, Shino has really been the most neglected in terms of action. He has to have changed by now.

G_Man
10-22-2005, 07:07 AM
I would prefer for her to be a girl given the new dynamic of a two girl, one guy team. Some think she's the third sharingan user and others think she's a jinchuriki, and others a spy. At any rate, there is definitely a storyline purpose for her existence, so that's something to look forward to.

And out of all of the genin, Shino has really been the most neglected in terms of action. He has to have changed by now.

He might have more personality and some new moves (it even hinted at some new moves before the time skip when he mentioned to Kiba that he was searching for some new bugs), but I doubt his look will have changed much.

Hiromi
10-22-2005, 11:45 PM
I would prefer for her to be a girl given the new dynamic of a two girl, one guy team. Some think she's the third sharingan user and others think she's a jinchuriki, and others a spy. At any rate, there is definitely a storyline purpose for her existence, so that's something to look forward to.


Kishimoto could introduce a Turnip into the story and people, many of whom post a lot on Naruto fan, would instantly proclaim it to be Yondaime/Obito/Shisui/ThirdMangeuser/etc

Jared_Humpherys
10-23-2005, 11:43 AM
Kishimoto could introduce a Turnip into the story and people, many of whom post a lot on Naruto fan, would instantly proclaim it to be Yondaime/Obito/Shisui/ThirdMangeuser/etc

Actually, I was kind've wondering how many folks think that Tobi might be Obito. For starters, it's one o shy if an anagram. Secondly, Tobi's mask or whatever only has one eyehole. Third, a lack of depth perception(especially if he had the mangekyou and was losing eyesight) would make it easy for him to drop that thing of Sasori's he flipped. That could also therefore make him the third mangekyou user.

It sounds silly, but who knows?

NeoSapien
10-23-2005, 11:55 AM
Actually, I was kind've wondering how many folks think that Tobi might be Obito. For starters, it's one o shy if an anagram. Secondly, Tobi's mask or whatever only has one eyehole. Third, a lack of depth perception(especially if he had the mangekyou and was losing eyesight) would make it easy for him to drop that thing of Sasori's he flipped. That could also therefore make him the third mangekyou user.

It sounds silly, but who knows?
I don't want Tobi to be Obito, but the similarities are depressing. There's the name, the mask-with-appropriate-single-eyehole, the less-than-elite-behavior, the association with Zetsu who does strange things to dead bodies and is probably from the Grass Country (which, coincidentally, is both the place Obito died and the place the next mission will take place in)... If Tobi isn't Obito in some form, Kishimoto at least wants us to make the connection.

G_Man
10-23-2005, 11:28 PM
I don't want Tobi to be Obito, but the similarities are depressing. There's the name, the mask-with-appropriate-single-eyehole, the less-than-elite-behavior, the association with Zetsu who does strange things to dead bodies and is probably from the Grass Country (which, coincidentally, is both the place Obito died and the place the next mission will take place in)... If Tobi isn't Obito in some form, Kishimoto at least wants us to make the connection.


Obito died in Grass? Could have sworn they were on a mission in Stone Country, hence all the Iwa-nins. Afterall, it was Stone they were at war with and you'd think the Grass would have something to say about Stone running operations in their territory.

What strange things does Zetsu do to dead bodies? I don't recall him mentioning anything. I know Orochimaru can do ressurection and Sasori can make corpses into puppets, but what exactly is Zetsu's scthik (the Akatsuki are becoming regular ghouls, eh?)?

Big E
10-24-2005, 12:56 AM
Why is this show so slow? I appreciate the long explanations but GD it drags.

NeoSapien
10-24-2005, 01:54 AM
Why is this show so slow? I appreciate the long explanations but GD it drags.
If you're referring to the show currently airing on Cartoon Network, a primary reason for its current slowness is its habit of recapping the last few minutes of every episode in the beginning of the following one. Fortunately, this practice should end in a few episodes.
Obito died in Grass? Could have sworn they were on a mission in Stone Country, hence all the Iwa-nins. Afterall, it was Stone they were at war with and you'd think the Grass would have something to say about Stone running operations in their territory.
The battle took place in the Grass country. Presumably the Grass country is like Belgium; they try to stay neutral but always end up a battleground between Germany and France.

What strange things does Zetsu do to dead bodies? I don't recall him mentioning anything. I know Orochimaru can do ressurection and Sasori can make corpses into puppets, but what exactly is Zetsu's scthik (the Akatsuki are becoming regular ghouls, eh?)?
Zetsu eats dead bodies. He and his second personality thought that Kisame's fake dead body looked very appetizing. So if he eats them, anything else he does to them (like reviving bits of them) is actually a step away from creepiness. Well, almost anything else he might do to them.

MKTerra
10-27-2005, 11:37 PM
Actually, I was kind've wondering how many folks think that Tobi might be Obito. For starters, it's one o shy if an anagram. Secondly, Tobi's mask or whatever only has one eyehole. Third, a lack of depth perception(especially if he had the mangekyou and was losing eyesight) would make it easy for him to drop that thing of Sasori's he flipped. That could also therefore make him the third mangekyou user.

It sounds silly, but who knows?Sounds like the possible Rin/Karen connection in Fate Stay Night...

http://www.chiyochan.net/fate/src/1129908725006.jpg

Rin in the lower left. Karen in the upper left. Similar hair. Tohsaka Rin. -ka Rin. Karen.

MKTerra
10-30-2005, 08:43 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention... in the anime airing on CN, when Sasuke catches Naruto's shuriken and unfolds it ("Demon Wind Shuriken!"), Sakura's excited "Oh!" sounds like she had a spontaneous orgasm :rolleyes:

Chocolove
10-30-2005, 09:30 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention... in the anime airing on CN, when Sasuke catches Naruto's shuriken and unfolds it ("Demon Wind Shuriken!"), Sakura's excited "Oh!" sounds like she had a spontaneous orgasm :rolleyes:

Y'know, I really don't get the Sakuragasm people keep talking about her VA having within the contexts of the supposed scenes. You can only make so many noises with your mouth, so it is bound to be repetitive somewhere.

In addition, last night's episode reminded me that Zabuza's a punk.

MKTerra
10-31-2005, 12:23 AM
Y'know, I really don't get the Sakuragasm people keep talking about her VA having within the contexts of the supposed scenes. You can only make so many noises with your mouth, so it is bound to be repetitive somewhere.Oh, it's just that she sounded so disproportionately excited at that moment :p

Chocolove
10-31-2005, 07:03 PM
Oh, it's just that she sounded so disproportionately excited at that moment :p

Well, I'm certainly not trying to be argumentative. But, hey, if the VA gets /that/ excited by Sakura the character can use the energy.

Chocolove
11-02-2005, 12:22 PM
Looks like Team 8 finally appears...

http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2820nj.jpg

MKTerra
11-02-2005, 06:46 PM
Hmm, Hinata looks as meek as ever...

Hiromi
11-02-2005, 08:58 PM
Woohoo! Akamaru's huge, Hinata's sexy, and Shino looks even more mysterious.

LoneWolf21
11-02-2005, 10:41 PM
So I guess soon will be the inevitable return of the Pepsi Ninja...

NeoSapien
11-03-2005, 01:46 AM
Poor Hinata. Chapter 282:
Her new look is... less than stunning, and according to the most accurate spoiler, in the picture she's hiding from Naruto out of extreme shyness. When he finds her, she faints. Not the best entrance after two and a half years.

Hiromi
11-03-2005, 12:04 PM
Heh, loved this chapter, Shino getting pissed that Naruto didn't reconize him, and Naruto saying "How can i reconize your face if you show so little of it idiot?!", Kiba not realizing how big Akamaru had really gotten since Naruto left(he used to sit on your head!) and Shino's "You realize this at once with Kiba" and "You realize this at once with Hinata too." Also interesting to note that Hinata's almost as tall as Naruto now.

NeoSapien
11-03-2005, 03:08 PM
Heh, loved this chapter, Shino getting pissed that Naruto didn't reconize him, and Naruto saying "How can i reconize your face if you show so little of it idiot?!", Kiba not realizing how big Akamaru had really gotten since Naruto left(he used to sit on your head!) and Shino's "You realize this at once with Kiba" and "You realize this at once with Hinata too." Also interesting to note that Hinata's almost as tall as Naruto now.
Hinata, along with the entire cast except Gaara, was actually taller than Naruto before the time skip. He was pretty short.

Sheldon
11-03-2005, 03:18 PM
Hinata is so cute!

GreyLancaster
11-04-2005, 03:01 AM
I've heard that there are some similiarities between Naruto and Dragon Ball Z

Can someone point out those similiarities for this ignorant poster?

Hiromi
11-04-2005, 10:19 AM
some of the fanbase is really annoying, other than that I've never seen much personally.

G_Man
11-04-2005, 12:51 PM
I've heard that there are some similiarities between Naruto and Dragon Ball Z

Can someone point out those similiarities for this ignorant poster?

Some of the more annoying female fans have a tendency to pair together the respective series' two main rivals in their fanfics(Goku/Vegeta and Sasuke/Naruto).

Other than that, the similarities are only those that can be found in virtually any shonen (for boys) action manga (characters getting more powerful through training, time skips for said training, rivalries among the heroes, annoying tendency of the fanbase to pair up characters regardless of age or sexual orientation, etc.). :p

GreyLancaster
11-04-2005, 07:25 PM
Some of the more annoying female fans have a tendency to pair together the respective series' two main rivals in their fanfics(Goku/Vegeta and Sasuke/Naruto).

Other than that, the similarities are only those that can be found in virtually any shonen (for boys) action manga (characters getting more powerful through training, time skips for said training, rivalries among the heroes, annoying tendency of the fanbase to pair up characters regardless of age or sexual orientation, etc.). :p

I guess you're right.

Paploo the Ewok
11-04-2005, 08:03 PM
Just thought I'd let people know VIZ is starting to advertise for the Naruto manga on YTV's various anime series. It's NIFTY :)

G_Man
11-11-2005, 07:36 AM
283 out. And damn you to Hell Kishimoto!!! :mad: As it turns out, yes, Sai is a guy (and a surprisingly vulgar guy at that, calling Naruto "dickless"). His attack seems pretty cool at least, plus we got to see Shikamaru perform a new attack, and we got to see the updated Chouji, he was pretty badass.

Hiromi
11-11-2005, 12:19 PM
I honestly never got a girl vibe from Sai like I did Haku so I'm not too disapointed. Calling someone dickless in Japanese culture as I understand it would be the same as us accusing someone of not having balls. Pretty striking for someone supposedly without emotion. Chouji(who seems to have overcome his shortfalls from the first half and deserves his Chunnin rank) and Shikamaru(new shadow jutsu!) both rock. Sai's jutsus were interesting.

MKTerra
11-11-2005, 03:30 PM
Go Chouji! :D

Hiromi
11-18-2005, 10:19 AM
284s out

Ino is hot. Sai instead of being a Rei clone is more of an Asuka style obnoxious jerk @_@. New character, Anbu captain named Yamato. And honestly, I can't tell if Narutofan is paradying itself now, before the full RAW was even out there was a thread claiming Yamato was Obito, good God.

G_Man
11-18-2005, 09:30 PM
"Obnoxious jerk" doesn't quite cover Sai. The guy is a bigger ass than Jerkface was before he went all curse-seal-evil on us... and, yes, post time-skip Ino is sizzling! :D

Got to say though, I am damn disappointed that no familar faces were added to Naruto's team. I like the thought of new characters, and the "subversive political movement against Tsunade" angle is intriguing, but it would have been nice if their temporary captain was a jounin we're familar with, or maybe even that ANBU babe we saw praying at Hayate's grave waaay back during the Cuunin Exam.

MKTerra
11-18-2005, 09:56 PM
Ino looks like Deidara cosplaying as Advent Children Tifa... ^_^'

Hiromi
11-18-2005, 10:30 PM
Fortunatly we don't need long drawn out debates on Ino's gender!

NeoSapien
11-18-2005, 11:58 PM
"Obnoxious jerk" doesn't quite cover Sai. The guy is a bigger ass than Jerkface was before he went all curse-seal-evil on us... and, yes, post time-skip Ino is sizzling! :D

Got to say though, I am damn disappointed that no familar faces were added to Naruto's team. I like the thought of new characters, and the "subversive political movement against Tsunade" angle is intriguing, but it would have been nice if their temporary captain was a jounin we're familar with, or maybe even that ANBU babe we saw praying at Hayate's grave waaay back during the Cuunin Exam.
I have a feeling that the temporary captain is going to be very temporary indeed. His genericness does not bode well for his long-term (or even short-term) survival.

sehthan
11-19-2005, 12:37 AM
I have a feeling that the temporary captain is going to be very temporary indeed. His genericness does not bode well for his long-term (or even short-term) survival.

Did we see that guy during the Chuunin exm arc? Was he one of the unnamed Leaf guys monitoring the examinees? He looks familiar...

NeoSapien
11-19-2005, 01:08 AM
Did we see that guy during the Chuunin exm arc? Was he one of the unnamed Leaf guys monitoring the examinees? He looks familiar...
The two or three Chuunin who served as examiners and had the most lines have names, though I don't remember them offhand. Yamato is a new character. He might have appeared as a nameless ANBU behind a mask before.

sehthan
11-19-2005, 01:20 AM
The two or three Chuunin who served as examiners and had the most lines have names, though I don't remember them offhand. Yamato is a new character. He might have appeared as a nameless ANBU behind a mask before.


Maybe I was thinking of this guy (http://www.naruto-world.com/episode24/naruto24-83.jpg).

Chocolove
11-19-2005, 08:30 AM
Fortunatly we don't need long drawn out debates on Ino's gender!

OMG!! Dieddera killerd Ino and is maswquearading as her!!OMFG, u fink a guys hot, roflmao!!

Beyond that I'm ready for this arc to really get moving.

Hiromi
11-19-2005, 11:05 AM
The two or three Chuunin who served as examiners and had the most lines have names, though I don't remember them offhand. Yamato is a new character. He might have appeared as a nameless ANBU behind a mask before.

Well, he's a captain, maybe he was the one who lead the sqaud that watched Sarutobi's battle with Orochimaru. Course that is pure and 100% speculation but...

G_Man
11-19-2005, 02:35 PM
I have a feeling that the temporary captain is going to be very temporary indeed. His genericness does not bode well for his long-term (or even short-term) survival.

Yeah, he'd better bust out a seriously unique and kickass technique soon or he's going the way of the dodo. For all their hype, most ANBU we see are either mulling around after the battle doing nothing but clean-up or are on the recieving end of some pretty one-sided, off-screen beatdowns.

Corey Dreher
11-20-2005, 06:05 PM
OMG!! Dieddera killerd Ino and is maswquearading as her!!OMFG, u fink a guys hot, roflmao!!

Beyond that I'm ready for this arc to really get moving.


I hope you are joking. Next time put a spoiler tag on before you reveal something else that big.

MKTerra
11-20-2005, 06:24 PM
I hope you are joking. Next time put a spoiler tag on before you reveal something else that big.Yeah, it's a joke... like I mentioned, Ino's new hairdo and wardrobe makes her look like Deidara cosplaying AC Tifa ^_^'

...Bah, don't have a picture on hand...

Hiromi
11-24-2005, 09:12 PM
New chapter's out, honesty nothing much to comment on, Sai has connections to ROOT, Yamamoto was Sandaime's top ANBU guy(which further leads me to believe he was the ANBU captain who watched from outside the barrier in the Orochimaru 3rd fight), we learn Sai's boss was a competetior with Sarutobi for the Third title, thats about it.

MKTerra
11-26-2005, 02:23 AM
Shika really knows how to fetch the ladies :cool:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5803/narutoshikapimpcomic5zw.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=narutoshikapimpcomic5zw.jpg)

(Apologies if this is old hat by now)

Hiromi
11-26-2005, 09:22 AM
Where do these little shorts I see poted on 4chan come from?

MKTerra
11-26-2005, 05:32 PM
This one had a URL at the bottom... http://www2.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~keroyon/

Deskad
12-01-2005, 05:50 AM
That new character, looks sorta like....


So my suspicions were right, again. Sai is related to Sasuke. Figures, their faces are near identical from side view.

G_Man
12-01-2005, 07:50 AM
So my suspicions were right, again. Sai is related to Sasuke. Figures, their faces are near identical from side view.

Doesn't exactly state that they are related, but it's certainly looking like a big possibility. Sai might very well be the third potential Mangekyou-user that Itachi mentioned (Kakashi doesn't count since we're not even sure if it's the true Mangekyou he has and Itachi never expected him to develop it).

Still miffed that he wasn't a girl. Sticking Naruto on a team with a female Sasuke who has an even more abrasive attitude (not to mention's Sai's acting all innocent with Yamato even though he insulted the others right in front of the guy) than the original would have been comedy gold! :evilsmile

Hiromi
12-01-2005, 01:41 PM
Points to Sai for pointing out what Jerkface really is, points to Sakura for decking him anyways. ZOMG! Fanservice!

G_Man
12-01-2005, 04:45 PM
Points to Sai for pointing out what Jerkface really is, points to Sakura for decking him anyways. ZOMG! Fanservice!

I take it you're referring to chapter 286? Darn, haven't seen that one yet. Still, it's nice to know that this time around the team jackass isn't gonna get away with being a dick without taking a few lumps for it. :D

sehthan
12-01-2005, 05:39 PM
Points to Sai for pointing out what Jerkface really is, points to Sakura for decking him anyways. ZOMG! Fanservice!

Yeah, 286 stuff. So, uh, spoiler warning I guess.

Bonus points to Sakura for holding back Naruto. With his temper and straightforwardness, he'd have started a full-out brawl. Sakura had enough restraint to make her point and let Sai off with a warning. They way things are bulding, we'll probably get the brawl when Sai betrays them later anyways (that's just speculation, not a spoiler), but at least this way they can say they tried.

Scary badass Sakura has become one of my favorites, and I hope she gets to stay badass.

Yamato's warning to Naruto was amusing. Anyone still think there's nothing going on with him?

G_Man
12-01-2005, 06:41 PM
Bonus points to Sakura for holding back Naruto. With his temper and straightforwardness, he'd have started a full-out brawl. Sakura had enough restraint to make her point and let Sai off with a warning. They way things are bulding, we'll probably get the brawl when Sai betrays them later anyways (that's just speculation, not a spoiler), but at least this way they can say they tried.


Anybody else notice? Zabuza, Orochimaru, Itachi, Sasuke, and now Sai; Team 7 really seems to have a problem with traitorous, @$$hole brunettes, eh? :p

G_Man
12-02-2005, 05:50 AM
Yamato's warning to Naruto was amusing. Anyone still think there's nothing going on with him?

Considering that mask we saw Yamato staring at was the one worn by the guy Sai called sempai last chapter, no... and yes, that scary face he makes is downright terrifying.

Incidentally, didn't they mention during Sarutobi's fight with Orochimaru that in all of Konoha's history only the Shodaime was capable of using Wood Element jutsus of the magnitude Yamato just demonstrated casually? :eek:

SAMAS
12-02-2005, 07:51 AM
Shika really knows how to fetch the ladies :cool:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5803/narutoshikapimpcomic5zw.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=narutoshikapimpcomic5zw.jpg)

(Apologies if this is old hat by now)

Wow. He even gets the dead ones. :D

Zun Liako
12-02-2005, 09:33 AM
Sai's comments on Sasuke make me love him

G_Man
12-06-2005, 04:40 PM
Sai's comments on Sasuke make me love him

True, though they are a little hypocritical since things seem to be hinting at him betraying Naruto and Sakura as well, though at least he has the justification that his superior officer probably told him it was for the benefit of the village (nevermind that said superior officer is doing crap behind the Hokage's back).

Hiromi
12-08-2005, 01:28 PM
287's out, Yammato uses his wood jutsu again, in a most awesome fashion. I so want him to come along the next time I go camping.

Sheldon
12-08-2005, 06:22 PM
Sai is really creeping me out.

sehthan
12-08-2005, 07:28 PM
Sai is really creeping me out.


Don't worry. It's only a matter of time until Naruto teaches him to feel.

G_Man
12-08-2005, 10:00 PM
Don't worry. It's only a matter of time until Naruto teaches him to feel.

Thanks alot, Sethan! You probably just gave about a hundred yaoi fangirls "ideas"! :eek:

Melchior
12-08-2005, 10:22 PM
Thanks alot, Sethan! You probably just gave about a hundred yaoi fangirls "ideas"! :eek:

You underestimate the power of yaoi fangirls.

On the other hand, 265 & 266 probably had them trying for a brain-breaking menage de trois.

Azangel
12-12-2005, 10:46 PM
Ok, so how many episodes are there, so far, total?

I know I'm going to regret asking. :D

The Real Nemo
12-13-2005, 12:47 AM
Ok, so how many episodes are there, so far, total?

I know I'm going to regret asking. :D
Don't worry it's not as much as One Piece, only 164 eps as of today... ^_^;

Hiromi
12-13-2005, 01:07 AM
Also helps that the last 19 episodes have been filler(and we'll continue to have only filler till sometime in Spring next year, sigh), as far as Manga based goes its only really at 135.

Hiromi
12-17-2005, 12:03 PM
New chapters out, pretty meh over all, and Sai needs to get a real god dammed shirt.

Jared_Humpherys
12-24-2005, 03:43 PM
Having recently re-read a lot of Naruto, a couple of things have stood out in regards to Sasuke's sharingan and curse seal of heaven that leads me to ask: are they designed to go together? There are several reasons for this:

1. Similar ties to the heavens. The curse seal is the heaven one, and causes wings to sprout(whereas the gaia seal gives a tail), while the Mangekyou abilities Amaterasu(shining heaven) and Tsukiyomi(Moon Reader) are both references to sky gods from Japanese mythology.

2. Similarity in appearance. Both the seal and the sharingan itself are 3-comma'd(and also of note how all curse seals shown have three prongs, as does the mangekyou).

3. Similarities in power/comparisons made by characters. Sasuke rema