Naruto Manga/Anime Discussion Fun Thread!

[Narutokun]

Actually he did, or he would have been able to beat naruto without it...so he did need that to "catch up". I really dont' see the point in wondering the whole series has told us this. They both are awesome. naruto is better at some things, and Sasuke is better at others. But it is very intersting to find out he did unlock them back then!

Ok now on a side note. I think Sasuke felt inferior just because he saw Naruto's growth, even though they were pretty well matched if Naruto did not use the demon fox. So sasuke with regular sharigan and naruto (back in the day) was pretty much even (with the cursed seal not released). So with the demon, Sasuke with the Cursed seal unlocked...both bad boys!

Like I said I like both characters I just don't like people trying to put one particular character up high and downing another one. So please don't try to put other characters down to try to make yours look better. Sasuke is bad...Itachi is AWESOME LOL just because he faught Sasuke at such a low level in his life...now sasuke might and very well could be that good at Itachis age if he lives that long!

I am not putting Sasuke down by the way, I am just telling how awesome Itachi being on his death bed and giving up power before hand! That is all

[lokisedge]

Where do you get these images so early? Now I do have to ask, did Kish just tell us Sasuke unlocked his eyes at 8? But even if he did, it did him no good caue he never was ablet to use it...so I am not sure what you are trying to say that he wasn't inferior? Be nice and explain, cause to me it seems even if he unlocked them, it was pointless cause he never usedThe spoilers says or shows us, instead of having awakened the sharigan at 12 years old, he unlocked the Sharigan at eight, and it's possibly due to all the mental stress he suffered durring the years after Itachi killed his clan. Kishi is saying Sasuke unlocked the Sharigan the same day Itachi killed his clan and also Itachi unlocked the Sharigan. If Sasuke wasn't so depressed, he'd notice he unlocked Sharigan at that age and train with that till he reached 12 and unlocked the three tomoe sharigan.

Actually he did, or he would have been able to beat naruto without it...so he did need that to "catch up". I really dont' see the point in wondering the whole series has told us this. They both are awesome. naruto is better at some things, and Sasuke is better at others. But it is very intersting to find out he did unlock them back then! Actaully it's been revealed Sasuke nevered needed the CS, he unlocked the sharigan at 8 years old and could have trained his eyes from that time period which would make him strong enough to surpress the Kyuubi or genjutsu Naruto at the Vote Fight, Kishi nerfed Sasuke so Naruto would look like he was slightly powerful than Sasuke. Take a look a Itachi, he unlocked the sharigan the same age Sasuke unlocked his and became anbu captain at age 12. Sasuke would have become as strong as Kakashi at that age if he trained his sharigan.

Ok now on a side note. I think Sasuke felt inferior just because he saw Naruto's growth, even though they were pretty well matched if Naruto did not use the demon fox. So sasuke with regular sharigan and naruto (back in the day) was pretty much even (with the cursed seal not released). So with the demon, Sasuke with the Cursed seal unlocked...both bad boys!Actually it's not that hard to beat Naruto with the Kyuubi out, Part 2 shows that Sasuke had a power greater than Naruto's. And that power can control the Kyuubi.

Like I said I like both characters I just don't like people trying to put one particular character up high and downing another one. So please don't try to put other characters down to try to make yours look better. Sasuke is bad...Itachi is AWESOME LOL just because he faught Sasuke at such a low level in his life...now sasuke might and very well could be that good at Itachis age if he lives that long!No I believe Sasuke would be equal with Itachi if he started his sharigan training at an early age. Sasuke unlocked the sharigan at 8 years of age but just seemed to forgot since then because of a tragic event.

[Narutokun]

The spoilers says or shows us, instead of having awakened the sharigan at 12 years old, he unlocked the Sharigan at eight, and it's possibly due to all the mental stress he suffered durring the years after Itachi killed his clan. Kishi is saying Sasuke unlocked the Sharigan the same day Itachi killed his clan and also Itachi unlocked the Sharigan. If Sasuke wasn't so depressed, he'd notice he unlocked Sharigan at that age and train with that till he reached 12 and unlocked the three tomoe sharigan.

Actaully it's been revealed Sasuke nevered needed the CS, he unlocked the sharigan at 8 years old and could have trained his eyes from that time period which would make him strong enough to surpress the Kyuubi or genjutsu Naruto at the Vote Fight, Kishi nerfed Sasuke so Naruto would look like he was slightly powerful than Sasuke. Take a look a Itachi, he unlocked the sharigan the same age Sasuke unlocked his and became anbu captain at age 12. Sasuke would have become as strong as Kakashi at that age if he trained his sharigan.

Actually it's not that hard to beat Naruto with the Kyuubi out, Part 2 shows that Sasuke had a power greater than Naruto's. And that power can control the Kyuubi.

No I believe Sasuke would be equal with Itachi if he started his sharigan training at an early age. Sasuke unlocked the sharigan at 8 years of age but just seemed to forgot since then because of a tragic event.

1) Ok I understand what you are saying then...

2) But he didn't train and that is all we can go off of, because he didn't train he needed the CS.

3) I am talking about part one not two. But in part two naruto was as weak as he would ever have been so that is no companrison. He had used the four tails aready, and was falling over almost past out. No comparison, that is like saying if neji had his eyes poked out and saying neji is not that strong cause naruto could beat him easily...yeah look at what state he was in. I am not saying Sasuke would not have been able to beat Naruto because Sasuke has one HUGE advantage that naruto at this point cannot overcome...gengentzu, however it is spelled.

4) Yes I agree he would be wow, but still I can't be sure becasue of the latest news...Itachi was just more powerful then anyone figured...so I do agree he would have been far superior with almost anyone, but not sure about being equal with Itachi

[Spidey-kid1]

Lee will only show up if Team Gai shows up. And I'm glad for Sasuke that he unlocked his sharigan at the age Itachi had it(Itachi unlocked his at eight as well. Shows he's not the inferior brother when it comes to learning potential and growth. If Sasuke wasn't truamatized when he unlocked the sharigan and learned it at that age, he would been on even grounds with Itachi along time ago. So it's proven, Sasuke was nerfed all this time and he had the sharigan all along, not that he needed Naruto to unlock it. He never needed the CS to catch up.

I can't believe Kishi retcon the idea of Sasuke not unlocking the sharigan when he was tweleve but eight but suddenly forgot.

"If sasuke wasn't Truamatized..."

If anything, the slaughter just made him train harder than he would have. He is much stronger now than he would have beem. He and Itachi would not have been on even grounds. Not even close.

[Narutokun]

"If sasuke wasn't Truamatized..."

If anything, the slaughter just made him train harder than he would have. He is much stronger now than he would have beem. He and Itachi would not have been on even grounds. Not even close.

You know that is very true...yep I have to restate what I had previoulsy say, because if he wasn't tramatized his eyes would not have been unlocked...and because he was tramatized is "why" his eyes were unlocked..true enough maybe he just wasn't smart enough (being a genius just wasn;t enough lol) to figure his eyes were unlocked lol. So we don't know how far he would have ever gotten if he had figured it out...heck what if Naruto wasn't messed up from having no family...his dad would have trained him and he would have been the best even faster :)

[lokisedge]

"If sasuke wasn't Truamatized..."

If anything, the slaughter just made him train harder than he would have. He is much stronger now than he would have beem. He and Itachi would not have been on even grounds. Not even close.He trained without knowing he had the sharigan, if he did. He'd be on Itachi's level. The gap would be close. Sasuke and Itachi both unlocked the sharigan at 8 and honed them to make them super geniusus.

[Spidey-kid1]

He trained without knowing he had the sharigan, if he did. He'd be on Itachi's level.

And he's probably less than half Itachis age. Going by your logic, he would be half Itachis power.

And how do you know Itachi used his Sharingan to train? Sasuke didn't even use his Sharingan to train. Even when he did know he had the sharingan.

He would not be on Itachi's level.

[Narutokun]

And he's probably less than half Itachis age. Going by your logic, he would be half Itachis power.

And how do you know Itachi used his Sharingan to train? Sasuke didn't even use his Sharingan to train. Even when he did know he had the sharingan.

He would not be on Itachi's level.

Again your on a roll....nice thought process...I agree

[Spidey-kid1]

Again your on a roll....nice thought process...I agreeThanks. I was just thinking up stuff as I went along. I never think of that kind of stuff off the top of my head. :tongue:

[lokisedge]

And he's probably less than half Itachis age. Going by your logic, he would be half Itachis power.

And how do you know Itachi used his Sharingan to train? Sasuke didn't even use his Sharingan to train. Even when he did know he had the sharingan.

He would not be on Itachi's level.Character hype, Madara and Oro said Sasuke would surpass Itachi's eyes.

Well duh, he used the sharigan to train, all Sharigan users do. It's part of being a Uchiha.

If Sasuke had applied his sharigan when he was, he wouldn't have needed the CS or the leaf, he'd be the strongest genin in the village. And jounin level.

Sasuke=Itachi, but Kishi made him nerfed so he could fool use into thinking Naruto and his PIS ways could give Sasuke true strength in being strong, Sasuke was strong anyway.

[Spidey-kid1]

Character hype, Madara and Oro said Sasuke would surpass Itachi's eyes.

Well duh, he used the sharigan to train, all Sharigan users do. It's part of being a Uchiha.

If Sasuke had applied his sharigan when he was, he wouldn't have needed the CS or the leaf, he'd be the strongest genin in the village. And jounin level.

Sasuke=Itachi, but Kishi made him nerfed so he could fool use into thinking Naruto and his PIS ways could give Sasuke true strength in being strong, Sasuke was strong anyway.And when Tsunde said Sasuke did drugs, you didn't believe that. Why should Madara and Oro be any different?

And by that, you mean every sharingan user besides Sasuke? There is no proof Itachi did.

Itach>Sasuke. By many times.

[Guy1]

And yet, even with all of those boosts, the pampering training from Kakashi, the curse seal boosts, the help from Orochimaru, the ability to make up powers on the fly, when all was said and done......a sick and dying Itachi who was half blind and holding back had Sasuke backed into a corner ready to piss himself.
If Sasuke couldn't beat the guy with ALL of that backing him up, he would've been crushed without them.

[lokisedge]

And when Tsunde said Sasuke did drugs, you didn't believe that. Why should Madara and Oro be any different?

And by that, you mean every sharingan user besides Sasuke? There is no proof Itachi did.

Itach>Sasuke. By many times.Tsunade guess, not said. She said she either did forbidden jutsu as well. Madara and Oro are geniuses, that realize Sasuke as a genius beyond their own.

Itachi unlocked the Sharigan at eight, by that age Itachi should have learned jutsu at a fast rate that made him into a anbu elite. Besides by then, he experienced war. His growth into a shinobi was forced which made him into a faster warrior compared to Sasuke. Sasuke and Itachi had different timelines and contrast scenarios were their potential was gauged in the manga.

Sasuke > Itachi, because of the plot.

And yet, even with all of those boosts, the pampering training from Kakashi, the curse seal boosts, the help from Orochimaru, the ability to make up powers on the fly, when all was said and done......a sick and dying Itachi who was half blind and holding back had Sasuke backed into a corner ready to piss himself.
If Sasuke couldn't beat the guy with ALL of that backing him up, he would've been crushed without them.PIS and constant nerf. Nuff said, Kishi made Sasuke get alot of nerfing to make his growth as a main character believeable.

Itachi had the sharigan when he did his dads fire jutsu. Sasuke did not, and who knows what kind of level of talent Sasuke would have had if he used the sharigan at eight instead of forgetting.

There's a lot more I want to say, but I doubt I'll be able to put my words together well enough. Itachi had advantages in his early growth that Sasuke simply wasn't presented with. Itachi was more powerful/talented than Sasuke, it doesn't necessarily mean that his capacity for learning was greater than Sasuke's from the start.

Sasuke has shown MUCH MORE prowess with the basic sharingan and non-sharingan jutsus than Itachi. Imagine if he used the sharigan at an early age, he'd be as strong as Itachi in no time.

[Spidey-kid1]

And yet, even with all of those boosts, the pampering training from Kakashi, the curse seal boosts, the help from Orochimaru, the ability to make up powers on the fly, when all was said and done......a sick and dying Itachi who was half blind and holding back had Sasuke backed into a corner ready to piss himself.
If Sasuke couldn't beat the guy with ALL of that backing him up, he would've been crushed without them.Yep.

Tsunade guess, not said. She said she either did forbidden jutsu as well. Madara and Oro are geniuses, that realize Sasuke as a genius beyond their own.

Itachi unlocked the Sharigan at eight, by that age Itachi should have learned jutsu at a fast rate that made him into a anbu elite. Besides by then, he experienced war. His growth into a shinobi was forced which made him into a faster warrior compared to Sasuke. Sasuke and Itachi had different timelines and contrast scenarios were their potential was gauged in the manga.

Sasuke > Itachi, because of the plot.So basically, Tsunde made an assumption. Just like Mandara and Oro.

So he used it in a few fights. So did Sasuke. Still nothing about using it in training.

And there is no plot, because Sasuke never even got to half of Itachis power. There is no way he would have reached Itachis power and time soon. Even if he did use the Sharingan in training.

Alright. Now, without anything about what madara and oro said, why exactly do you think Sasuke would have surpassed Itachi?

[tipo4thesoul]

If your spoilers are true, I don't know why anyone would train with J-man or Oro. Apparently Itachi can just hand jutsus out.

[lokisedge]

Yep.

So basically, Tsunde made an assumption. Just like Mandara and Oro.

So he used it in a few fights. So did Sasuke. Still nothing about using it in training.

And there is no plot, because Sasuke never even got to half of Itachis power. There is no way he would have reached Itachis power and time soon. Even if he did use the Sharingan in training.

Alright. Now, without anything about what madara and oro said, why exactly do you think Sasuke would have surpassed Itachi?Um, you do know Sasuke is a main character like Naruto and is tied to the plot. Anything of fortitude that hypes Sasuke will come true. Tsunade is canon fodder, and she isn't tied to any plot except maybe Sakura's.

Itachi is canon fodder sad to say, and as fodder, Sasuke is destined to surpass him in power and abilty. This new revevlation cements this. Showing Sasuke had equal potential of that of his brothers. And why not? Naruto reached Sasuke's power in Part 1.

Itachi had more and more opportunity due to him being in war, he trained and honed his powers at 8 in a much early age because of the war and was hailed as a genius because he made an impression first due to that War. Sasuke was raised free of forced opression and grew up without having to train like hell and show his abilty to the village at 8. He unlocked the sharigan but forgot how after he saw his clan killed. If Sasuke trained with having the sharigan, he would been much more powerful than he already is.

[Spidey-kid1]

Um, you do know Sasuke is a main character like Naruto and is tied to the plot. Anything of fortitude that hypes Sasuke will come true. Tsunade is canon fodder, and she isn't tied to any plot except maybe Sakura's.So basically, your just making claims based on someones words, CIS, and without proof. If you don't have any solid reasons as to why Sasuke would be stronger than itachi if he lost all the lame power ups and just trained for a while with eyes, this debate is over.

[Guy1]

And now for someone totally unrelated......
Gaara...of the Funk!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1It3pztds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX4deFsRtiE

[lokisedge]

So basically, your just making claims based on someones words, CIS, and without proof. If you don't have any solid reasons as to why Sasuke would be stronger than itachi if he lost all the lame power ups and just trained for a while with eyes, this debate is over.Lets see, like his brother, he was always the top of the class and good at everything, he learned a A Rank jutsu in a day, and like Itachi is good at breaking down the basics and ustilizing them with complexity. If he had the sharigan while training at 8, he'd be anbu captain himself. But Itachi ruined that, by killing his clan and mental blocking him.

And the pic speaks volumes.

[master of read]

And now for someone totally unrelated......
Gaara...of the Funk!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1It3pztds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX4deFsRtiE

no one can beat gaara of the funk in ddr. well no one but............................






RAIN!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoOvvBKshQU

[Spidey-kid1]

Lets see, like his brother, he was always the top of the class and good at everything, he learned a A Rank jutsu in a day, and like Itachi is good at breaking down the basics and ustilizing them with complexity. If he had the sharigan while training at 8, he'd be anbu captain himself. But Itachi ruined that, by killing his clan and mental blocking him.

And the pic speaks volumes.

And once again, by this logic, he would be half of Itachis power.

[master of read]

And once again, by this logic, he would be half of Itachis power.

makes sense.

[Guy1]

And once again, by this logic, he would be half of Itachis power.

Sounds about right.

[lokisedge]

And once again, by this logic, he would be half of Itachis power.But Sasuke could catch up, added his own sharigan training from age eight reaching 3 tomoe at 12, to having Kakashi's training learning Raiton jutsu's and evenually creating his own versions of chidori. I don't even think the fourth could stop him, since by the age of 15 he would have learned Hirashin or possibly unlocked the MS.

[Narutokun]

Yep sounds right guys!

Now for a come back :). Since he is going into if "sasuke" wasnt' damaged...I will go with...If naruto wasn't mentally damaged he would have been better off too...not saying that is true by any means cause we truthfully do not know the outcome! So if naruto had his dad and mom, they taught him, trained him, and everything wow he would have been a monster MUHAHAHA

[master of read]

But Sasuke could catch up, added his own sharigan training from age eight reaching 3 tomoe at 12, to having Kakashi's training learning Raiton jutsu's and evenually creating his own versions of chidori. I don't even think the fourth could stop him, since by the age of 15 he would have learned Hirashin or possibly unlocked the MS.

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now you are just being crazy.

[master of read]

Yep sounds right guys!

Now for a come back :). Since he is going into if "sasuke" wasnt' damaged...I will go with...If naruto wasn't mentally damaged he would have been better off too...not saying that is true by any means cause we truthfully do not know the outcome! So if naruto had his dad and mom, they taught him, trained him, and everything wow he would have been a monster MUHAHAHA

true. not on the level of his old man but still a monster.

[Spidey-kid1]

But Sasuke could catch up, added his own sharigan training from age eight reaching 3 tomoe at 12, to having Kakashi's training learning Raiton jutsu's and evenually creating his own versions of chidori. I don't even think the fourth could stop him, since by the age of 15 he would have learned Hirashin or possibly unlocked the MS....

If you seriously think all that, there is no point in debating anymore, because its impossible to convince you otherwise.

[Guy1]

Yep sounds right guys!

Now for a come back :). Since he is going into if "sasuke" wasnt' damaged...I will go with...If naruto wasn't mentally damaged he would have been better off too...not saying that is true by any means cause we truthfully do not know the outcome! So if naruto had his dad and mom, they taught him, trained him, and everything wow he would have been a monster MUHAHAHA

Or if Jiraya wasn't a lazy a$$ and actually bothered really training Naruto.
As this nice thread showed.
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=223803

[tipo4thesoul]

But Sasuke could catch up, added his own sharigan training from age eight reaching 3 tomoe at 12, to having Kakashi's training learning Raiton jutsu's and evenually creating his own versions of chidori. I don't even think the fourth could stop him, since by the age of 15 he would have learned Hirashin or possibly unlocked the MS.

No more if, cause IF Narutuo could unlock the full Nine Tails power without destroying himself and everyone around him he would be unstoppable.

Also, there is no way that Itachi or even Sasuke would beat the fourth. Keep in mind he had a "flee on sight" order on him for the entire Ninja community.

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

No more if, cause IF Narutuo could unlock the full Nine Tails power without destroying himself and everyone around him he would be unstoppable.

Also, there is no way that Itachi or even Sasuke would beat the fourth. Keep in mind he had a "flee on sight" order on him for the entire Ninja community.

Iwa had a 'Flee on sight' order about him, because he'd killed fifty of their ninja at once. Everyone else was just cautious around him, they didn't spazz out.


We have no idea how strong the Fourth really was, so saying there's no way Itachi could keep up is a stretch. Considering he basically fought a Kage-level battle while dying, going blind, and still holding back even then, Itachi at 100%, and fully motivated must have been in the running for top three strongest ninja ever.

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

Incidentally, how is that tally of his a big deal?



Sasori apparently used his puppet army to pwn a country, Sasuke went through a thousand ninja like they were wet toilet paper...

...and couldn't someone with a Boss Summon wait until they got onto the war field, then summon their giant accomplice to squish countless ninja at will?


Seriously, how many average jounin are going to survive Gamabunta dropping on their heads?

[Guy1]

Iwa had a 'Flee on sight' order about him, because he'd killed fifty of their ninja at once. Everyone else was just cautious around him, they didn't spazz out.


We have no idea how strong the Fourth really was, so saying there's no way Itachi could keep up is a stretch. Considering he basically fought a Kage-level battle while dying, going blind, and still holding back even then, Itachi at 100%, and fully motivated must have been in the running for top three strongest ninja ever.

What we know is that the Fourth took on the Kyuubi and was the one that sealed it, dying in the process.

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

What we know is that the Fourth took on the Kyuubi and was the one that sealed it, dying in the process.

The Fourth rode in on Gamabunta, who likely held off the thing, while the Fourth used the one technique that apparently no one can block. Had the Saindaime not been, by his admission, 'too damn old', that same technique would have finished and taken out Orochimaru just as easily, instead of merely sealing his arms.



Nothing seems to suggest The Fourth had some big drawn out fight with it. He used the cosmic cheat code that also kills you.

[Guy1]

The Fourth rode in on Gamabunta, who likely held off the thing, while the Fourth used the one technique that apparently no one can block. Had the Saindaime not been, by his admission, 'too damn old', that same technique would have finished and taken out Orochimaru just as easily, instead of merely sealing his arms.



Nothing seems to suggest The Fourth had some big drawn out fight with it. He used the cosmic cheat code that also kills you.

You make a good point. Still, we never saw the battle unfortunately.
Damn, it's too bad really, the Fourth was apparently uber, but we never really see any of it.

[Daemon]

Iwa had a 'Flee on sight' order about him, because he'd killed fifty of their ninja at once. Everyone else was just cautious around him, they didn't spazz out.


We have no idea how strong the Fourth really was, so saying there's no way Itachi could keep up is a stretch. Considering he basically fought a Kage-level battle while dying, going blind, and still holding back even then, Itachi at 100%, and fully motivated must have been in the running for top three strongest ninja ever.

The only way that given how these other uber ninja are acting like a hot lasknife through butter is that the Yondaime had to take down something like 50 Sanin or at the very least Kakashi Level Iwa Ninjas.

[master of read]

and the 3rd did say that if minato was still alive, orochimaru wouldnt have been a threat.

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

and the 3rd did say that if minato was still alive, orochimaru wouldnt have been a threat.

With the Uchiha running around, he wasn't really a threat anyway.:biggrin:


Last time he appeared he lasted about a page and a half before Itachi insta-pwned him hardcore, and then muttered 'Next'. He didn't even get to do a monologue.

Itachi: Deus Ex Machina, hoooooooo!

*Schwing*

Orochimaru: Shit.

Itachi: *Yawns* I'm probably going to drop dead any moment now, y'know, body breaking apart and all that, so let's hurry this up.

Sasuke: Check please.

[Narutokun]

true. not on the level of his old man but still a monster.

Very true...we will never know what "ifs" so we should just leave them out, all we know are the "here and now". That was my point and I am soooo glad everyone got it :)...but yes Naruto's old man was the man. I would LOVE to see him in a fight, def against the nine tails...might be the big frog helping the whole time, or he just rode in on him and did jutzu on his back...we don't know but it would be awesome to see

[Ragnorok64]

Well another slow chapter, but a couple of flash-back reveals.

[Dark Soul # 7]

And now Itachi cried... It's understandable but I still don't like it.

I hope that Naruto doesn't get the sharingan. If he does this may very well turn into DBZ where you're useless in a fight unless you're a saiyan or villain of the week.. Just replace with saiyan with sharingan.

I was however intrigued by the united front thing mentioned at the end as a teaser for next week's chapter. Who's united front?

And when will Naruto and Tsunade find out about Jiraiya's death? I want to see their reactions.

[lurkerinthedark]

Do we actually know was the fourth stronger than the third? I think various people in the series have mentioned it both ways. Given the fourth died in his prime, while the third was well past it I'm personally inclined to think people would imagine the fourth as more powerful than he was and the third as less.

For comparison think of their titles, "God of all Shinobi" vs "Yellow Flash", I know which of those immediately makes me sit up and take notice.

[lokisedge]

LOL I've got proof to back up my point that Sasuke would have been equal to Itachi.' Kishimoto just confirmed Sasuke's will power early on through these flashbacks. After being cut with a shuriken in the left arm, punched in the gut and mind-raped by Tsukuyomi, Sasuke still managed to toss some shurikens before passing out. This explains how he willed himself out of Oro's domain and Itachi's Tsukuyomi later on in life. That's some slick shit, Kishi. And he scratched Itachi's headband protector. It's actually like he did better the 1st time than in that 2nd attempt years later. This with the one tomoe sharigan.

[Guy1]

And now Itachi cried... It's understandable but I still don't like it.

I hope that Naruto doesn't get the sharingan. If he does this may very well turn into DBZ where you're useless in a fight unless you're a saiyan or villain of the week.. Just replace with saiyan with sharingan.


It's been like that since the start.
damn gary stu's

[Ragnorok64]

LOL I've got proof to back up my point that Sasuke would have been equal to Itachi.' Kishimoto just confirmed Sasuke's will power early on through these flashbacks. After being cut with a shuriken in the left arm, punched in the gut and mind-raped by Tsukuyomi, Sasuke still managed to toss some shurikens before passing out. This explains how he willed himself out of Oro's domain and Itachi's Tsukuyomi later on in life. That's some slick shit, Kishi. And he scratched Itachi's headband protector. It's actually like he did better the 1st time than in that 2nd attempt years later. This with the one tomoe sharigan.That is not proof. Also, Sasuke did not scratch Itachi's headband.

[Dark Soul # 7]

It's been like that since the start.
damn gary stu'sNot really.

Lee and Gaara both whupped Sasuke's ass in the past and Naruto fought evenly with him on the rooftop.

And Kakashi gets just as beat up as he pwns.

[Guy1]

Not really.

Lee and Gaara both whupped Sasuke's ass in the past and Naruto fought evenly with him on the rooftop.

And Kakashi gets just as beat up as he pwns.

I meant since the timeskip started.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I meant since the timeskip started.Oh...

Yeah, then you're pretty much spot on.

Still, Kakashi does take a lot of abuse.

[Ragnorok64]

It's been like that since the start.
damn gary stu's

Then what was Sakura and Chio vs Sasori, Naruto vs Orochimaru, or Team Asuma and Team Kakashi vs Hidan and Kakuzu?

I realize people are getting frustrated but don't have such a short memory now.

[Guy1]

Then what was Sakura and Chio vs Sasori, Naruto vs Orochimaru, or Team Asuma and Team Kakashi vs Hidan and Kakuzu?

I realize people are getting frustrated but don't have such a short memory now.

Yeah, they had good fights, but ever since Wankface showed up again it's been nothing but CONSTANT Uchiha Wank.
Let's see.........
Sasuke is now able to overpower Orochimaru's possession technique.
In the fight with Deidara, he was constantly pulling out BS left and right: "Hey, convenintly, now I've got X-Ray and Micro vision! Hey, conveniently, even though I'm out of chakra and hurt already, I am still able to pull out a Boss Summon, hypnotize him, jump into him and then warp away by pulling out a space/time jutsu out of my ass."
Afterwards, he magically gets a healing factor.'
Then there's the fact that instead of seeing the fight between Suigetsu and Kisame, which had been built up, there fight was utterly skipped to showcase more uchiha.
I'm not even going into the bull that was being pulled in the fight against Itachi, or Orochimaru being turned into a damn joke.
Then, after that fight Sasuke gets a freebie powerup again, then sits down and talks with Madara, and gets another.
Naruto, the f-ing main character of the series, has to be force fed Uchiha power to be useful in the manga now, and Itachi is now a prep god who is right about everything and can do no wrong whatsoever.

SO yeah, that's the message of Timeskip Naruto, if your not an Uchiha, your nothing.

[Miburohunter929]

Yeah, they had good fights, but ever since Wankface showed up again it's been nothing but CONSTANT Uchiha Wank.
Let's see.........
Sasuke is now able to overpower Orochimaru's possession technique.
In the fight with Deidara, he was constantly pulling out BS left and right: "Hey, convenintly, now I've got X-Ray and Micro vision! Hey, conveniently, even though I'm out of chakra and hurt already, I am still able to pull out a Boss Summon, hypnotize him, jump into him and then warp away by pulling out a space/time jutsu out of my ass."Afterwards, he magically gets a healing factor.'
Then there's the fact that instead of seeing the fight between Suigetsu and Kisame, which had been built up, there fight was utterly skipped to showcase more uchiha.
I'm not even going into the bull that was being pulled in the fight against Itachi, or Orochimaru being turned into a damn joke.
Then, after that fight Sasuke gets a freebie powerup again, then sits down and talks with Madara, and gets another.
Naruto, the f-ing main character of the series, has to be force fed Uchiha power to be useful in the manga now, and Itachi is now a prep god who is right about everything and can do no wrong whatsoever.

SO yeah, that's the message of Timeskip Naruto, if your not an Uchiha, your nothing.

To be fair, he didnt use a new Jutsu, so much as he just made Manda get Unsummoned or something.

He summoned Manda, got inside, and made him go to summon land, and then Juggo or Suigetsu summmoned him back.

I assume Manda was too close to being dead to be forced to reappear, or Sasuke just didnt know how, which begs the question of how he made Manda dissapear in the first place....

Or it's possible, he got inside manda, manda tanked the *whole* attack, and then Juggo just happened to summon him.

The Time/Space had more to do with Manda/summoning, then Sasuke being awesome.

....Unless they retcon that as well, at which point, I'm fucked.

[Narutokun]

LOL I've got proof to back up my point that Sasuke would have been equal to Itachi.' Kishimoto just confirmed Sasuke's will power early on through these flashbacks. After being cut with a shuriken in the left arm, punched in the gut and mind-raped by Tsukuyomi, Sasuke still managed to toss some shurikens before passing out. This explains how he willed himself out of Oro's domain and Itachi's Tsukuyomi later on in life. That's some slick shit, Kishi. And he scratched Itachi's headband protector. It's actually like he did better the 1st time than in that 2nd attempt years later. This with the one tomoe sharigan.

YOU have to be joking that does NOT prove anything, all it proves is Sasuke was ticked off and went after his brother, anybody would have done the same if there family was viscioulsy slaughtered! Yes he has will power, big deal so does Naruto and 90 % of everybody! He is not THE BOMB like you imagine, that is fine if you want to think so, but get over it he was a lot less then half itachi's power and we will never know the "what if" so just change subjects!

[lokisedge]

This also proves 8 year old Sasuke > Kakashi, he took tsukuyomi head on and still managed to fight back eith shuriken. Kakashi fainted after he got tsukuyomied.

That is not proof. Also, Sasuke did not scratch Itachi's headband.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/13/

Knocked his headband off.

[Kevin M.]

This also proves 8 year old Sasuke > Kakashi, he took tsukuyomi head on and still managed to fight back eith shuriken. Kakashi fainted after he got tsukuyomied.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/13/

Knocked his headband off.



You fail beyond words.

[MartinRedmond]

Please people, the only way to solve this argument is with fists. I say we all meet outside at 3PM.

[Kevin M.]

Please people, the only way to solve this argument is with fists. I say we all meet outside at 3PM.


How about we use chains?

[archash]

This also proves 8 year old Sasuke > Kakashi, he took tsukuyomi head on and still managed to fight back eith shuriken. Kakashi fainted after he got tsukuyomied

i'm not sure you can compare them like that. first off, kakashi doesn't have an ounce of uchiha blood in him, i'm just theorizing here and I do not have anything to back this up, but I think Sasuke had a better chance at Tsukuyomi because: A) he had Uchiha blood and B) he also had those crazy, uber powerful Sharingan eyes.

Like I said...nothing to back it up and just theorizing :)

On another note, I do hope we get Naruto's reaction to the news of Jiraiya's "apparent" death. I know Kishi mentioned that we won't get any Naruto stories this year, but just a simple training arc...even if it might be just a subplot...will make me happy. AND i know this is just wishful thinking but i hope he learns how to move like his old man (the flash step that made yondaime famous...forgot the name of the jutsu). THAT will make the future battle with Sasuke really interesting IMO

[Narutokun]

i'm not sure you can compare them like that. first off, kakashi doesn't have an ounce of uchiha blood in him, i'm just theorizing here and I do not have anything to back this up, but I think Sasuke had a better chance at Tsukuyomi because: A) he had Uchiha blood and B) he also had those crazy, uber powerful Sharingan eyes.

Like I said...nothing to back it up and just theorizing :)

On another note, I do hope we get Naruto's reaction to the news of Jiraiya's "apparent" death. I know Kishi mentioned that we won't get any Naruto stories this year, but just a simple training arc...even if it might be just a subplot...will make me happy. AND i know this is just wishful thinking but i hope he learns how to move like his old man (the flash step that made yondaime famous...forgot the name of the jutsu). THAT will make the future battle with Sasuke really interesting IMO


Still better theorizing then our "preskip Sakura" lover (towards Sasuke) on this thing. I am not saying anything else cause nobody agree's with him and he won't quit talking about it. So he can live in his fantasy world all he wants. He is ignored because his love for Sasuke is annoying me big time...and I like sasuke, but I am not head over heals in love with him like whats his name on here. Hey didn't we have a guy on here just like him acouple months back....

Ok one more thing sorry guys...Kakashi took Swords for three days length of time (within a sec or two) with itachi's eye tech, all little sasuke took was to see what his brother did to his parents NO torture shown...this probably what depressed him so much that he forgot all about his sharigan spawning! So there is NO comparison here, none whatsoever. Kakashi took damage...literal damage to his brain from the attack...sasuke was messed up by seeing this...only shows one time (that I recall) and does not mention that Itachi made him see this over and over for three days...might have but still no damage done!

[Oblivion87]

Maybe I'm analyzing this the wrong way but its almost as if Kishimoto is trying to make Naruto wank the Sharingan now. I really hope Itachi didn't give Naruto the Sharingan.

[Dark Soul # 7]

When Itachi used tsukiyomi on 8 year old Sasuke he only tortured him with images of him killing the Uchiha clan so that Sasuke would get pissed off at him. It was a mental and emotional torture.

When Itachi used the tsukiyomi on Kakashi he made it so that Kakashi's body felt like it was experiencing physical torture for 72 extended hours all in a second or two. It was a physical torture.

There you go.

[Guy1]

Still better theorizing then our "preskip Sakura" lover (towards Sasuke) on this thing. I am not saying anything else cause nobody agree's with him and he won't quit talking about it. So he can live in his fantasy world all he wants. He is ignored because his love for Sasuke is annoying me big time...and I like sasuke, but I am not head over heals in love with him like whats his name on here. Hey didn't we have a guy on here just like him acouple months back....

Ok one more thing sorry guys...Kakashi took Swords for three days length of time (within a sec or two) with itachi's eye tech, all little sasuke took was to see what his brother did to his parents NO torture shown...this probably what depressed him so much that he forgot all about his sharigan spawning! So there is NO comparison here, none whatsoever. Kakashi took damage...literal damage to his brain from the attack...sasuke was messed up by seeing this...only shows one time (that I recall) and does not mention that Itachi made him see this over and over for three days...might have but still no damage done!

Yeah, Fuzzes.
Then before that, it was Maikofan.

[lurkerinthedark]

The weird thing about all this is that on fanfic.net the exact opposite seems to happen, where tons of fanfics are written with a ridiculous Naruto bias .

[lonewolf23k]

The weird thing about all this is that on fanfic.net the exact opposite seems to happen, where tons of fanfics are written with a ridiculous Naruto bias .

Well, people tend to like the underdog..

[archash]

Still better theorizing then our "preskip Sakura" lover (towards Sasuke) on this thing. I am not saying anything else cause nobody agree's with him and he won't quit talking about it. So he can live in his fantasy world all he wants. He is ignored because his love for Sasuke is annoying me big time...and I like sasuke, but I am not head over heals in love with him like whats his name on here. Hey didn't we have a guy on here just like him acouple months back....

which is why I am trying really hard to keep my love for Yondaime in check so that I won't sound like a complete Yondaime freak everytime I post something as to avoid sounding like a Yondaime fanboy with a Yondaime shrine built somewhere...(oh crap, I think I do sound like i'm inlove with Minato now...) :eek:

Now, regarding the power that Itachi gave Naruto, I think it won't be a power-up per se, I think it will be somewhere in the lines of a "counter-sharingan"...much like the way Sasuke instantly unleashed Amaterasu on Madara when he tried to show his sharingan eyes to him. It's pretty far-fetched (especially the way Itachi said "...I hope the day never comes that you might have to use it.") but it may be referencing to the day that Naruto and Sasuke will have to fight it out again.

[sehthan]

Sharingan can control the Kyubi, right? What if Itachi gave Nartuo better control, or somehow "locked out" the other Sharingan users?

[lurkerinthedark]

Well, people tend to like the underdog..

I understand that, but if your giving him "teh UBER BLOODLINE of DOOOOOM!", or making him Anbu at Itachi's age, or having him trained by your awesome new OC(or crossover char)... etc isn't he by definition not the underdog?

I just don't understand the drama a a story about how awesome Naruto is and how he can effortlessly pwn all the other rookie 9, team guy and sand sib's while enjoying the fresh taste of nice hot ramen.

[Wally_West]

I didn't like the way Itachi made Naruto swallow his bird...thats just a lame way to give power to someone. This issue, like the recent turn of events is just retarded...Sasuke is more of a douchebag now than ever. What a little cry-baby. "OMG! Life is SO unfair!! Someone call me a whammmbulance! Boo-Boo-Bi-Boo!!"

[lokisedge]

I didn't like the way Itachi made Naruto swallow his bird...thats just a lame way to give power to someone. This issue, like the recent turn of events is just retarded...Sasuke is more of a douchebag now than ever. What a little cry-baby. "OMG! Life is SO unfair!! Someone call me a whammmbulance! Boo-Boo-Bi-Boo!!"Um? Did I miss a panel where he was being a jerk to someone? Because in the chapter I read, he was actually calm and peaceful for once and revealing his character emotionally for the first time. And we have a flashback of him trying to stop Itachi but failed and Sasuke feelign betrayed by his brother who ironically did this for his benefit.

[Guy1]

Um? Did I miss a panel where he was being a jerk to someone? Because in the chapter I read, he was actually calm and peaceful for once and revealing his character emotionally for the first time. And we have a flashback of him trying to stop Itachi but failed and Sasuke feelign betrayed by his brother who ironically did this for his benefit.

And I still don't get Itachi at all, but that's me.

[tipo4thesoul]

I didn't like the way Itachi made Naruto swallow his bird...thats just a lame way to give power to someone. This issue, like the recent turn of events is just retarded...Sasuke is more of a douchebag now than ever. What a little cry-baby. "OMG! Life is SO unfair!! Someone call me a whammmbulance! Boo-Boo-Bi-Boo!!"

The bird part made perfect sense. Think about it, Itachi is essentially controlling the person's mind when they are in his illusion anyway. So, why shouldn't he be able to force techniques into their head that they hadn't known. It doesn't mean they will be physically capable of accomplishing the technique, but he knows how to do it.

[Robotech Master]

Itachi still comes across to me as the "Bad guy with good intentions." He had all the good intentions, but his methods make him an antagonist to Naruto's ideals. In this chapter we found out that Itachi believes--despite his love for his brother--that if Sasuke is "corrupted" into attacking Konoha, Naruto has to weigh Sasuke's life against Konoha's and choose to kill Sasuke. When Naruto says he'll accomplish both saving Sasuke and Konoha without having to kill Sasuke, Itachi called him naive and that his ideals were pipe-dreams.

I think the line "Lets hope you never have to use it" means: "I hope Sasuke never tries to attack Konoha and you don't have to kill him." Its still been left entirely up to Naruto to prove that he can turn this into a happy ending.

[lokisedge]

Itachi apparently called Sasuke "pure". Meaning he's not a lost cause yet.

[Guy1]

Itachi apparently called Sasuke "pure". Meaning he's not a lost cause yet.

Let's hope not.

[Robotech Master]

You're taking the word a little too literally, since I think something was lost in translation. Itachi here means "pure" as in like a child: naive, innocent, easily convinced or emotionally swayed. This is why the line is followed by "He could easily be colored by anything."

Naruto was asking why Sasuke would ever try to attack Konoha. Itachi was indirectly explaining that Sasuke could easily be corrupted into doing just that because of Madara's words.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I understand that, but if your giving him "teh UBER BLOODLINE of DOOOOOM!", or making him Anbu at Itachi's age, or having him trained by your awesome new OC(or crossover char)... etc isn't he by definition not the underdog?

I just don't understand the drama a a story about how awesome Naruto is and how he can effortlessly pwn all the other rookie 9, team guy and sand sib's while enjoying the fresh taste of nice hot ramen.I'm in the same camp.

I honestly hate the so called "Super-Naruto" stories on FF.net.

[Alex L]

Itachi apparently called Sasuke "pure". Meaning he's not a lost cause yet.

Like Robotech Master, I see this comment as meaning something more like a blank white canvas, that an artist has yet to paint on.

Sasuke, at the time Itachi said it, could have gone any which way depending on who influenced him.

[lokisedge]

Oh and I still stick to saying Sasuke could equal his brother in genius. So Sasuke was age 7 when he used the sharingan.
Itachi was age 8 when he used the sharingan.

Manga proof (Sasuke's words the day of the genocide as you can read in the chapter):
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/145/09/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/11/


I just wanted to clear up a few misunderstandings, Reread the translations:
-Itachi was able to use the sharingan at age 8.
-It isn't said anywhere in the manga how long it took him to master it.
-Sasuke's memories of him using sharingan were blacked out until this chapter.

That's all. I don't work with assumptions, I work with what is actually said in the manga.

[master of read]

Oh and I still stick to saying Sasuke could equal his brother in genius. So Sasuke was age 7 when he used the sharingan.
Itachi was age 8 when he used the sharingan.

Manga proof (Sasuke's words the day of the genocide as you can read in the chapter):
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/145/09/
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaRet...&PhotoID=32950

I just wanted to clear up a few misunderstandings, Reread the translations:
-Itachi was able to use the sharingan at age 8.
-It isn't said anywhere in the manga how long it took him to master it.
-Sasuke's memories of him using sharingan were blacked out until this chapter.

That's all. I don't work with assumptions, I work with what is actually said in the manga.



epic fail!

[Wally_West]

epic fail!

How so? That guy just took us all to school. :wink:

[master of read]

How so? That guy just took us all to school. :wink:

must be a speical school:biggrin:

[Kevin M.]

Oh and I still stick to saying Sasuke could equal his brother in genius. So Sasuke was age 7 when he used the sharingan.
Itachi was age 8 when he used the sharingan.

Manga proof (Sasuke's words the day of the genocide as you can read in the chapter):
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/145/09/
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaRet...&PhotoID=32950

I just wanted to clear up a few misunderstandings, Reread the translations:
-Itachi was able to use the sharingan at age 8.
-It isn't said anywhere in the manga how long it took him to master it.
-Sasuke's memories of him using sharingan were blacked out until this chapter.

That's all. I don't work with assumptions, I work with what is actually said in the manga.





http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/Guyver4/vader-fail.jpg

[master of read]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/Guyver4/vader-fail.jpg

vade speaks the truth.

[Wally_West]

vade speaks the truth.

GUYS! Stop being so mean. haha. :biggrin:

[Kevin M.]

GUYS! Stop being so mean. haha. :biggrin:


We don't mean to, but the guy is not helping it by his actions.

[master of read]

We don't mean to, but the guy is not helping it by his actions.

yeah. i mean his post in question is a contridiction in and of itself. it was asking for it.

[Wally_West]

yeah. i mean his post in question is a contridiction in and of itself. it was asking for it.

Dont worry. I would have done the same thing, but since you guys beat me to the punch, I felt compelled to defend him. lol :smile:

[Kevin M.]

yeah. i mean his post in question is a contridiction in and of itself. it was asking for it.


What's next, saying that Sauske can take PC Superman?

[tipo4thesoul]

What's next, saying that Sauske can take PC Superman?

Duh. He would just copy his powers, plus the powers of Onslaught, Green Latern's ring, Batman's Intelligence, Brainiacs Intelligence and Casper the friendly ghost's power of intangiblity.

[lokisedge]

So you guys are saying I fail without the abscene of evidence huh? Care to refute my claims?

[Kevin M.]

So you guys are saying I fail without the abscene of evidence huh? Care to refute my claims?

Let's see:

Pretty much making up stuff about Sauske.

Wanking him beyoung Kishimoto levels

Making a thread for the sole purpose of just wanking Sauske.

Using information which is not considered admisable on this board.

Using said fake information to support lies about Sauske.

[Guy1]

Who's hottest: Hinata, Ino, Sakura or Temari?

[Kevin M.]

Who's hottest: Hinata, Ino, Sakura or Temari?


I said Ino. Then again, I like Blondes.

[Guy1]

Duh. He would just copy his powers, plus the powers of Onslaught, Green Latern's ring, Batman's Intelligence, Brainiacs Intelligence and Casper the friendly ghost's power of intangiblity.

And at the end of it all, Sasuke will have been married to a guerrilla. But not just any Guerrilla. Oh no, that would be too simple for Superdick. Instead, he used super intelligence to make a super brain transplant and put Itachi's brain in the Guerrilla's body. So Superdick married Sasuke off Itachi, who is now a Guerrilla.
The Dick.
:tongue:

[lokisedge]

Let's see:

Pretty much making up stuff about Sauske.

Wanking him beyoung Kishimoto levels

Making a thread for the sole purpose of just wanking Sauske.

Using information which is not considered admisable on this board.

Using said fake information to support lies about Sauske.So Manga is wrong?

Manga says Sasuke was 7 years old when he awakened the Sharigan.

Sasuke had remembered when he awoken Sharigan at 7 years of age.

I'm not wanking anything, feats wise, Sasuke learned a C rank jutsu at age 7. He made top grades and excelled at all jutsu types.

Your being redundant and very ignorant.

Again refute.

[master of read]

So Manga is wrong?

Manga says Sasuke was 7 years old when he awakened the Sharigan.

Sasuke had remembered when he awoken Sharigan at 7 years of age.

I'm not wanking anything, feats wise, Sasuke learned a C rank jutsu at age 7. He made top grades and excelled at all jutsu types.

Your being redundant and very ignorant.

Again refute.

we arent saying the manga is wrong. oh no.

we are saying you are wrong.

[Kevin M.]

So Manga is wrong?

Manga says Sasuke was 7 years old when he awakened the Sharigan.

Sasuke had remembered when he awoken Sharigan at 7 years of age.

I'm not wanking anything, feats wise, Sasuke learned a C rank jutsu at age 7. He made top grades and excelled at all jutsu types.

Your being redundant and very ignorant.

Again refute.


Nope.

More like everything you say is complete bullshit. Oh, I was not talking about Sauske getting the Sharigan at age seven. Just every lie you ever spoke about Sauske, and his feats.

[lokisedge]

we arent saying the manga is wrong. oh no.

we are saying you are wrong.How am I wrong, it's easily implied Sasuke's sharigan and talent is far greater than Itachi's. And the Icing on the cake is that Sasuke awakened his Sharigan far earlier than Itachi did, only he had a mental block for 5 years and used it again when he was fighting Haku.

Imagine, Sasuke having the sharigan training all day at 7, he'd unlocked the MS at 12 and be a captain of anbu.

Nope.

More like everything you say is complete bullshit.You know I can report you right?

[Kevin M.]

How am I wrong, it's easily implied Sasuke's sharigan and talent is far greater than Itachi's. And the Icing on the cake is that Sasuke awakened his Sharigan far earlier than Itachi did, only he had a mental block for 5 years and used it again when he was fighting Haku.

Imagine, Sasuke having the sharigan training all day at 7, he'd unlocked the MS at 12 and be a captain of anbu.

You know I can report you right?


Do what you want man.

[master of read]

Do what you want man.

is he serious?

[Kevin M.]

is he serious?


If he want's to report me, then let him. Know what MOR, lets drop this. He is going Wank Sauske until he get's board, or booted off this site. I feel like a dope for even arguing with him.

[Lord Darkwolf]

So Manga is wrong?

Manga says Sasuke was 7 years old when he awakened the Sharigan.

Sasuke had remembered when he awoken Sharigan at 7 years of age.

I'm not wanking anything, feats wise, Sasuke learned a C rank jutsu at age 7. He made top grades and excelled at all jutsu types.

Your being redundant and very ignorant.

Again refute.




Okay..... Sasuke didn't awake Sharigan until he was 12, and only after joining team 7 and training with Kakashi and even then only when Haku smacked him enough to awaken it in desperation ...

Also he didn't excell in all jutsu types as again he didn't get any real training ( beyond his family's main katon jutsu ) till Kakashi ( tree climbing )

thus all your "facts" are false .



What do I win ?

[Guy1]

Okay..... Sasuke didn't awake Sharigan until he was 12, and only after joining team 7 and training with Kakashi and even then only when Haku smaked him enough to awaken it in desperation ...

Also he didn't excell in all jutsu types as again he didn't get any real training ( beyond his family's main katon jutsu ) till Kakashi ( tree climbing )

thus all your "facts" are false .



What do I win ?

http://images1.comstock.com/Imagewarehouse/CR/SITECS/NLWMCompingVersions/15512/15512-37dg.jpg
Your choice of a stuffed animal.

[Lord Darkwolf]

http://images1.comstock.com/Imagewarehouse/CR/SITECS/NLWMCompingVersions/15512/15512-37dg.jpg
Your choice of a stuffed animal.

ohh can I have a doggie ? I like doggies !:biggrin:

[master of read]

If he want's to report me, then let him. Know what MOR, lets drop this. He is going Wank Sauske until he get's board, or booted off this site. I feel like a dope for even arguing with him.

your right kev. after what he said about luffy, there really is no point in responding to him anymore. its like trying to push a marshmellow thru a rock.

[lokisedge]

Are you guys serious?

Your saying you don't believe me when I post feats about Sasuke?


Heres Sasuke at 7 getting good grades at the academy
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume25big.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=28690

Heres Sasuke mastering Grand Fire Ball at 7 in a day
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume25big.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=28733

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume25big.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=28734

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume25big.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=28735

Okay..... Sasuke didn't awake Sharigan until he was 12, and only after joining team 7 and training with Kakashi and even then only when Haku smaked him enough to awaken it in desperation ...

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/11/

Sasuke had a mental block due to the trama in the massacre of his clan and unlocked his sharigan again in the Haku fight. Proof is Sasuke remembering himself unlocking one tomoe in the flashback.


Also he didn't excell in all jutsu types as again he didn't get any real training ( beyond his family's main katon jutsu ) till Kakashi ( tree climbing ) He excelled in all the fields, Genjutsu, Taijutsu, Ninjutsu in the academy and made perfect scores. Seriously read the manga.

thus all your "facts" are false .Yeah make jokes.



What do I win ?http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/royal-fail.jpg

[Guy1]

ohh can I have a doggie ? I like doggies !:biggrin:

*Hands him a doggie.*
Enjoy there kid.:biggrin:

[master of read]

Who's hottest: Hinata, Ino, Sakura or Temari?

pre timeskip: temari, hands down.

post timeskip: sakura. mmmmmmmmmmm hook boots.

[lokisedge]

Please read back to my evidence guys.

[Guy1]

pre timeskip: temari, hands down.

post timeskip: sakura. mmmmmmmmmmm hook boots.

I agree on Temari for pre-timeskip.
Post though....Hinata has gotten hot.

[Kevin M.]

Please read back to my evidence guys.

Ha, evidence, good one.



Ino has the hips.

[master of read]

but the boots guys! THE BOOTS!!!

[Kevin M.]

but the boots guys! THE BOOTS!!!



Screw the boots. THE HIPS!!!!

[lokisedge]

Ha, evidence, good one.



Ino has the hips.You haven't disproved them yet.

Temari > Nub flat chested pink haired bitch.

Heres Sasuke at 7 getting good grades at the academy
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaRet...&PhotoID=28690

Heres Sasuke mastering Grand Fire Ball at 7 in a day
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaRet...&PhotoID=28733

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaRet...&PhotoID=28734

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaRet...&PhotoID=28735

[Kevin M.]

You haven't disproved them yet.

Temari > Nub flat chested pink haired bitch.


How can you disprove claims that where never true in the first place.

[lokisedge]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/403/11/

Sasuke had a mental block due to the trama in the massacre of his clan and unlocked his sharigan again in the Haku fight. Proof is Sasuke remembering himself unlocking one tomoe in the flashback.

As for the rest, read the top of your post.

[master of read]

Screw the boots. THE HIPS!!!!

the hips dont lie.


BUT THE BOOTS ARE TEH SEXY!!!

[master of read]

How can you disprove claims that where never true in the first place.

exactly. that's like me saying luffy could pwn gold roger.

[Ragnorok64]

Putting the lokisedge madness for a moment, what is up with Sasuke's eyes on this page?

http://img36.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000050231/11.jpg

[lokisedge]

exactly. that's like me saying luffy could pwn gold roger.I posted evidence, and your guys are bashing me without provocation or refutable evidence.

Putting the lokisedge madness for a moment, what is up with Sasuke's eyes on this page?I TOLD YOU HE ACTIVATED THE SHARIGAN!!!!!!!

[Narutokun]

Sorry guys Hinata I like the innocent look, but the boots...and the hips...tough one...

[Daemon]

I have to pick none of the above and go with Kurenai, Anko or Tsunade.

those three are just yummy.

[Guy1]

but the boots guys! THE BOOTS!!!

Screw the boots, Hinata has filled out!
http://narutohinata.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/naruto-hinata-wallpaper-3-320.jpg

[lokisedge]

Naruto females are useless, and I'm begining to think this board is anti Sasuke itself.

[master of read]

I posted evidence, and your guys are bashing me without provocation or refutable evidence.

I TOLD YOU HE ACTIVATED THE SHARIGAN!!!!!!!

says the man who thinks sasuke is a demon ninja, can pwn konoha and the 4th hokage, and thinks fan art is reliable evidence.

[master of read]

Screw the boots, Hinata has filled out!
http://narutohinata.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/naruto-hinata-wallpaper-3-320.jpg

yeah but does she use it?

sakura on the other hand, knows she's sexy. did you see her walk in the first ep of shippuuden. give it some time and naruto will be drooling over her even more than he is now.

[lokisedge]

says the man who thinks sasuke is a demon ninja, can pwn konoha and the 4th hokage, and thinks fan art is reliable evidence.You know, I posted a pic of Sasuke activating the sharigan at 7, and your still saying I'm lying about him having the potenial to surpass his brother and be his equal. I'm just going to put you on ignore.

Kyuubi said Sasuke's chakra is sinister, which means demonic in a sense.

Sasuke's old mentor Madara is the strongest shinobiin the world currently and has to surpass him, and he has a jutsu grater than Minato's Hirashin,

Sasusaku fan art is sexy.

yeah but does she use it?

sakura on the other hand, knows she's sexy. did you see her walk in the first ep of shippuuden. give it some time and naruto will be drooling over her even more than he is now.Sakura is not sexy, not even close. She looks like a man, and the boots is just a cover up to hide her unattrativeness.

Besides, naruto is already taken.

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume11.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=6217

[Kevin M.]

I posted evidence, and your guys are bashing me without provocation or refutable evidence.

I TOLD YOU HE ACTIVATED THE SHARIGAN!!!!!!!


Were not talking about the Sharigan.


Were talking about your actions over your post history revolving around Sauske.

[Narutokun]

I posted evidence, and your guys are bashing me without provocation or refutable evidence.

I TOLD YOU HE ACTIVATED THE SHARIGAN!!!!!!!

So which girl in manga would you say is the hottest?

[Guy1]

yeah but does she use it?

sakura on the other hand, knows she's sexy. did you see her walk in the first ep of shippuuden. give it some time and naruto will be drooling over her even more than he is now.

Not just her though.
NaruHarem FTW!

[lokisedge]

Were not talking about the Sharigan.


Were talking about your actions over your post history revolving around Sauske.Which are all backed up with evidence.

So care to refute my evidence?

Sasuke was a genius or a close to one at 7, but due to his tragic mental block he couldn't utilize his true potenial until he hit 12.

[master of read]

You know, I posted a pic of Sasuke activating the sharigan at 7, and your still saying I'm lying about him having the potenial to surpass his brother and be his equal. I'm just going to put you on ignore.

Kyuubi said Sasuke's chakra is sinister, which means demonic in a sense.

Sasuke's old mentor Madara is the strongest shinobiin the world currently and has to surpass him, and he has a jutsu grater than Minato's Hirashin,

Sasusaku fan art is sexy.

yeah but does she use it?

Sakura is not sexy, not even close. She looks like a man, and the boots is just a cover up to hide her unattrativeness.

Besides, naruto is already taken.

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume11.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=6217

.......................................and there goes the last bit of believablity you had.

[lokisedge]

http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume11.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=6217

Naruto's only hope, since Sakura will never return the favor.

[master of read]

Not just her though.
NaruHarem FTW!

yes. it must happen. naruto's gene's are too full of awesome not to have a harem.

he's the 4th's son. gotta keep the line strong:biggrin:

[Kevin M.]

Which are all backed up with evidence.

So care to refute my evidence?

Sasuke was a genius or a close to one at 7, but due to his tragic mental block he couldn't utilize his true potenial until he hit 12.


If he was a genius at age seven, why was he busting his ass when he started at the academy. Should he have breezed through it with little effort. And with Sharigan at age seven, that could just have been a tramatic response to seeing his clan killed right before him.

Also, if he hit his true potential at twelve, why was he still getting his ass whopped by Itachi, and others. You claim he was so powerful, he should have easily stopped them with little effort.

[Daemon]

yes. it must happen. naruto's gene's are too full of awesome not to have a harem.

he's the 4th's son. gotta keep the line strong:biggrin:

just as long as Naruto's Harem+Temari doesn't interfere with Gaara-sama's Sand Kunochi Harem I Fully support it.

[Guy1]

yes. it must happen. naruto's gene's are too full of awesome not to have a harem.

he's the 4th's son. gotta keep the line strong:biggrin:

Damn right he does.:biggrin:

[lokisedge]

If he was a genius at age seven, why was he busting his ass when he started at the academy.What are you talking about? Sasuke was at the top of his class and always getting good results in his grades. Thats impressive for Sasuke's age. He busted his ass because he wanted to reach Itachi's level, but to other genin he was a freaking genius compared to them. Should he have breezed through it with little effort.But he did. And with Sharigan at age seven, that could just have been a tramatic response to seeing his clan killed right before him. Not really, Sasuke in the current chapter admits he wanted to block out the events that happened to him after he unlocked the sharigan, he put a mental block on himself for 5 years so his pain wouldn't arose itself. It was then Sasuke at 12 who made himself unlock the sharigan because Naruto and the others were in danger.

Also, if he hit his true potential at twelve, why was he still getting his ass whopped by Itachi, and others. You claim he was so powerful, he should have easily stopped them with little effort.Because he didn't get the proper training by the clan like Itachi did, and had to scrap his own skills from scratch which could not be measured compared to his brother at that time. But It's nice to know Sasuke could have been as great as Itachi if he trained the sharigan when he unlocked it and didn't force himself to not remember how he unlocked after 5 years after the slaughter.

[master of read]

just as long as Naruto's Harem+Temari doesn't interfere with Gaara-sama's Sand Kunochi Harem I Fully support it.

THUS IT IS SO!!!

UPON MY DECREE, THE ONE KNOWN AS NARUTO, THE SON OF THE GREAT ONE, THE 4TH, SHALL HAVE UPON HIM, ALL THE WOMEN IN KONOHA BUT NONE OF THE SAND FOR THAT BELONGS TO HE OF THE FUNK!

ALL WOMEN WITHIN THE VILLAGE THERE IN SHALL LAY WITH NARUTO UNTIL HIS MANLY SEED IS SOWN DEEP IN THEIR WOMBS AND THEY ARE WITH CHILD BY HIM!

AND I SHALL WATCH YON COUPLINGS, FOR IT IS MY WANT!

AND BLUE BEETLE AND BOOSTER GOLD SHALL BEHOLDEN TO AND THEY SHALL RECORD THIS MOMENT FOR HISTORY! and ten bucks a pop.


SO DECREES THE GOD OF HENTAI!

[lokisedge]

Isn't Naruto gay? I doubt he cares about a harem more than Sasuke. Newest chapter states this.

[Kevin M.]

What are you talking about? Sasuke was at the top of his class and always getting good results in his grades. Thats impressive for Sasuke's age.

If he was a genius, why did he have to work hard to master the flame jutsu when he was at that age. Also, why could he not replicate that shurike jutsu that his brother did right infront of him. It was also implied that he worked hard to get the grades he did in the acadamy.

But he did. Not really, Sasuke in the current chapter admits he wanted to block out the events that happened to him after he unlocked the sharigan, he put a mental block on himself for 5 years so his pain wouldn't arose itself. It was then Sasuke at 12 who made himself unlock the sharigan because Naruto and the others were in danger.

After looking at how it went down, he looked like he did it on instinct. Still not seeing that he did it willingly.



Because he didn't get the proper training by the clan like Itachi did, and had to scrap his own skills from scratch which could not be measured compared to his brother at that time. But It's nice to know Sasuke could have been as great as Itachi if he trained the sharigan when he unlocked it and didn't force himself to not remember how he unlocked after 5 years after the slaughter.


But didn't you just say that he unlocked his full potential at age twelve. Yet you claim he did not beat up on guys because he did not receive proper training by his clan. Don't know what you are getting at with this one.

[Guy1]

THUS IT IS SO!!!

UPON MY DECREE, THE ONE KNOWN AS NARUTO, THE SON OF THE GREAT ONE, THE 4TH, SHALL HAVE UPON HIM, ALL THE WOMEN IN KONOHA BUT NONE OF THE SAND FOR THAT BELONGS TO HE OF THE FUNK!

ALL WOMEN WITHIN THE VILLAGE THERE IN SHALL LAY WITH NARUTO UNTIL HIS MANLY SEED IS SOWN DEEP IN THEIR WOMBS AND THEY ARE WITH CHILD BY HIM!

AND I SHALL WATCH YON COUPLINGS, FOR IT IS MY WANT!

AND BLUE BEETLE AND BOOSTER GOLD SHALL BEHOLDEN TO AND THEY SHALL RECORD THIS MOMENT FOR HISTORY! and ten bucks a pop.


SO DECREES THE GOD OF HENTAI!

Thus the first of the ten commandments of Naruto has been cast in stone.

[Ghost]

Who's hottest: Hinata, Ino, Sakura or Temari?

For me, it's kinda a toss-up between the last three. (I never did find Hinata very interesting.)

And at the end of it all, Sasuke will have been married to a guerrilla.

...

I think you meant to write gorilla. ^^;

[master of read]

If he was a genius, why did he have to work hard to master the flame jutsu when he was at that age. Also, why could he not replicate that shurike jutsu that his brother did right infront of him. It was also implied that he worked hard to get the grades he did in the acadamy.



After looking at how it went down, he looked like he did it on instinct. Still not seeing that he did it willingly.






But didn't you just say that he unlocked his full potential at age twelve. Yet you claim he did not beat up on guys because he did not receive proper training by his clan. Don't know what you are getting at with this one.


hurts doesnt it? its like he's constinly changing his answers to make himself and/or sasuke look good.

[Guy1]

For me, it's kinda a toss-up between the last three. (I never did find Hinata very interesting.)



...

I think you meant to write gorilla. ^^;

........
Screw grammar, I have money!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GC_ylRHtZs&feature=related
:tongue:

[lokisedge]

If he was a genius, why did he have to work hard to master the flame jutsu when he was at that age. Also, why could he not replicate that shurike jutsu that his brother did right infront of him. It was also implied that he worked hard to get the grades he did in the acadamy. Um because he had no sharigan at that time, meanwhile it's been implied Itachi learned the technique by watching his father, and Itachi unlocked the sharigan before Sasuke at 8 and mastered it. So he may have used the sharigan to copy the jutsu his father did, while Sasuke at his age learned a C rank jutsu at 7 with hard work in a day. To me, between the two genius brothers, Sasuke is the hard working genius of the two.



After looking at how it went down, he looked like he did it on instinct. Still not seeing that he did it willingly. Manga canon, he looked like he knew what happened to himself and what to do about saving Naruto when he unlocked the Sharigan. The smirk gave it away.






But didn't you just say that he unlocked his full potential at age twelve. Yet you claim he did not beat up on guys because he did not receive proper training by his clan. Don't know what you are getting at with this one.Yes I did, he activated the two tomoe sharigan against Haku hence forth his potential, but we find out his potenial could have started earlier at 7. It's mostly him training basic standard jutsu at 7 to 12 after the massacre and not Uchiha/Sharigan training. The sharigan also specializes in genjutsu and copying, Sasuke never learned this things in his young lifetime until the chunnin exams.

[GrampaGen]

Isn't Naruto gay? I doubt he cares about a harem more than Sasuke. Newest chapter states this.

Newest chapter also states that he is 'easily colored' by outside influences. Like Naruto. :tongue:

[Ghost]

........
Screw grammar, I have money!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GC_ylRHtZs&feature=related
:tongue:

It's, um, not a grammatical error. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerilla) ^^;

Unless you meant he should end up marrying an entire small army of elite kunoichi mercenaries. Which would actually be kinda awesome.

[Guy1]

It's, um, not a grammatical error. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerilla) ^^;

Unless you meant he should end up marrying an entire small army of elite kunoichi mercenaries. Which would actually be kinda awesome.

I meant it as in the ape.

[lokisedge]

Naruto is not a pimp, he's not cool, he is not a fucking badass. I mean, out of the 3 top shonen heroes, Naruto is the lamest and the most easily emo of them all. He prefers buttsecks with Sasuke than to care or take on Sakura finally, who still is in love with Sasuke and Hinata she might as well give up because she should se how far up Sasuke cock is in Naruto.

Can we drop it and discuss something else?

Like this paticular thing.

So in chapter 402 we have seen the little dinosaur

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5613/94140973fs3.jpg

... and now in 403 we see some kind of huge bones , i can only think of dinosaurs ...

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7434/85501513wl4.png

So i'm guessing that he will have a new pet , since Manda is dead ... what else can be better than his dream-pet , a Dino :ohpek

What do you think :huh

You think Sasuke standing on a pile a bones is a part of his plan to destroy konoha?

[master of read]

Naruto is not a pimp, he's not cool, he is not a fucking badass. I mean, out of the 3 top shonen heroes, Naruto is the lamest and the most easily emo of them all. He prefers buttsecks with Sasuke than to care or take on Sakura finally, who still is in love with Sasuke and Hinata she might as well give up because she should se how far up Sasuke cock is in Naruto.

Can we drop it and discuss something else?

Like this paticular thing.

So in chapter 402 we have seen the little dinosaur

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5613/94140973fs3.jpg

... and now in 403 we see some kind of huge bones , i can only think of dinosaurs ...

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7434/85501513wl4.png

So i'm guessing that he will have a new pet , since Manda is dead ... what else can be better than his dream-pet , a Dino :ohpek

What do you think :huh

You think Sasuke standing on a pile a bones is a part of his plan to destroy konoha?


well we really cant discuss anything with you. since nothing you say makes any sense. based on how you've been posting and behaving, we really dont have to talk anything you say seriously.

[lokisedge]

^I've discussed and debated fluently, it's you who won't accept the facts I give you.

[Guy1]

Naruto is a hell of a lot cooler then Sasuke could ever be, given that Naruto actually CARES about his friends, is willing to go out of his way to save them, and isn't some dick who will sell out his entire village for a cheap path to power.

[lokisedge]

Naruto is a hell of a lot cooler then Sasuke could ever be, given that Naruto actually CARES about his friends, is willing to go out of his way to save them, and isn't some dick who will sell out his entire village for a cheap path to power.Yeah and unlike Naruto(who isn't cooler or better than Sasuke) He's a realistic ninja. He's more entitled to do immoral things because Ninja's are immoral warriors in the first place and Naruto mocks that concept by being the opposite of one. Sasuke is actually a cooler and better character as a villain than Naruto is better and cooler as a hero. Which is why he's more popular than he is.

And going to Oro takes balls, because Oro just doesn't train ordinary people with lackluster skills, he trains and molds genius prodigies.

[Guy1]

well we really cant discuss anything with you. since nothing you say makes any sense. based on how you've been posting and behaving, we really dont have to talk anything you say seriously.

Just put him on ignore so we can get back on topic.

[lokisedge]

Just put him on ignore so we can get back on topic.I just posted fair discussion topics just a minute ago, you guys are talking like Narutards.

[Kevin M.]

Um because he had no sharigan at that time, meanwhile it's been implied Itachi learned the technique by watching his father, and Itachi unlocked the sharigan before Sasuke at 8 and mastered it. So he may have used the sharigan to copy the jutsu his father did, while Sasuke at his age learned a C rank jutsu at 7 with hard work in a day. To me, between the two genius brothers, Sasuke is the hard working genius of the two.


But yet you have claimed that Sauske was supperior to his brother at that age, Now your turn around, and say that he was the hard worker...intresting.

Manga canon, he looked like he knew what happened to himself and what to do about saving Naruto when he unlocked the Sharigan. The smirk gave it away.


Thats good, now show me where it states that hey unlocked the Sharigan at his own will at that moment where he saw his family killed.




Yes I did, he activated the two tomoe sharigan against Haku hence forth his potential, but we find out his potenial could have started earlier at 7. It's mostly him training basic standard jutsu at 7 to 12 after the massacre and not Uchiha/Sharigan training. The sharigan also specializes in genjutsu and copying, Sasuke never learned this things in his young lifetime until the chunnin exams.


A part for the chidori which he learned from training with, what did he show he could do with the Sharigan besdies reading movement?

[Kevin M.]

Just put him on ignore so we can get back on topic.



Know what, that is a good idea Guy.

[master of read]

Know what, that is a good idea Guy.

i;ve been ignoring him for the last few pages. he really isnt worth talking to about this subject.

[Daemon]

well we really cant discuss anything with you. since nothing you say makes any sense. based on how you've been posting and behaving, we really dont have to talk anything you say seriously.

you know i personally just prefer to skip over his posts and watch him go a little more nutso as we're all ignoring him

[master of read]

you know i personally just prefer to skip over his posts and watch him go a little more nutso as we're all ignoring him

that works too.

[lokisedge]

But yet you have claimed that Sauske was supperior to his brother at that age, Now your turn around, and say that he was the hard worker...intresting. No I haven't, I said Sasuke could be as great as his brother if he trained the sharigan at an earlier age.




Thats good, now show me where it states that hey unlocked the Sharigan at his own will at that moment where he saw his family killed. Show you?, the flashback of the current manga points Sasuke to forgetting he unlocked the sharigan on purpose along with the events of his clans murder.






A part for the chidori which he learned from training with, what did he show he could do with the Sharigan besdies reading movement?Chidori was Kakashi self ivented jutsu and original raiton technique. Sasuke had to learn it because only sharigan users could preform it. And three tomoe Sasuke has more than reading movements, he can surpass chakra, genjutsu and see through objects. Something Itachi had when he unlocked three tomoe probably.

[Kevin M.]

i;ve been ignoring him for the last few pages. he really isnt worth talking to about this subject.


Can't believe I was arguing with him over this stuff. Oh well, back on topic.

[master of read]

Can't believe I was arguing with him over this stuff. Oh well, back on topic.

it happens.


so do you think naruto heard about the j-man? would explain his mood in the last chapter.

[lokisedge]

Can't believe I was arguing with him over this stuff. Oh well, back on topic.So you guys concede and give the discussion to me? Well thanks. Nice to know, because I can fully say Sasuke can be a greater genius than Itachi in future chapters and Naruto needs a Uchiha powerup to catch up.

[Kevin M.]

it happens.


so do you think naruto heard about the j-man? would explain his mood in the last chapter.



I think he would go bonkers if he heard about big J, to say the least.

[lokisedge]

Naruto wouldn't care, because he's far to focused on Sasuke.

[Guy1]

I think he would go bonkers if he heard about big J, to say the least.

Hell yeah, you know, if Pein really wants to be a dick, he could rub in Naruto's face the fact that Jiraya trained him better.

[GrampaGen]

Hell yeah, you know, if Pein really wants to be a dick, he could rub in Naruto's face the fact that Jiraya trained him better.

Yeah, but Jiraiya taught Naruto "That Jutsu"

...

actually wait, has "That Jutsu" been used yet? Just wanna be sure.

[lokisedge]

I want to see how Naruto finds out Sasuke's attacking the village.

[Guy1]

Yeah, but Jiraiya taught Naruto "That Jutsu"

...

actually wait, has "That Jutsu" been used yet? Just wanna be sure.

I don't believe it has.

[lokisedge]

So everyone has me on their ignore?

I guess this means you guys won't need me giving out spoilers then.

[master of read]

So everyone has me on their ignore?

I guess this means you guys won't need me giving out spoilers then.

we've been getting spoilers long before you came. so no skin off our noses.

[master of read]

I don't believe it has.

unless that jutsu is him going 4 tails, then no. he hasnt.

[GrampaGen]

Maybe it'll be the ace in the hole, the one thing Jiraiya never taught his former disciples, Rinnengan or no.

...or on the other hand it'll be something KIshimoto forgets about in the stead of captivating tidbits that get overly speculated on.

Like Anko's past, say. But I digress.

I know it's been referred to often enough that use if "That Jutsu" is almost a comical cliche, but now that I think about it, did the circumstances under which TJ has been mentioned have anything in common each time? Besides great peril, of course.

[lokisedge]

Maybe it'll be the ace in the hole, the one thing Jiraiya never taught his former disciples, Rinnengan or no.

...or on the other hand it'll be something KIshimoto forgets about in the stead of captivating tidbits that get overly speculated on.

Like Anko's past, say. But I digress.

I know it's been referred to often enough that use if "That Jutsu" is almost a comical cliche, but now that I think about it, did the circumstances under which TJ has been mentioned have anything in common each time? Besides great peril, of course.What? I'm more focused on the Attack on Konoha.

[master of read]

Maybe it'll be the ace in the hole, the one thing Jiraiya never taught his former disciples, Rinnengan or no.

...or on the other hand it'll be something KIshimoto forgets about in the stead of captivating tidbits that get overly speculated on.

Like Anko's past, say. But I digress.

I know it's been referred to often enough that use if "That Jutsu" is almost a comical cliche, but now that I think about it, did the circumstances under which TJ has been mentioned have anything in common each time? Besides great peril, of course.

i just had a thought.

what if that jutsu is his dad's lighting god jutsu?

[GrampaGen]

i just had a thought.

what if that jutsu is his dad's lighting god jutsu?

Hmm...that could work. Although IIRC it required a number of prewritten seals sent in via kunai to funtion.

Then again, if there's anyone that could throw a hundred or so kunai at once, it's Naruto and his clones.

Maybe that clone rush strategy will actually work to his benefit, provided he isn't among the swarm and each clone has a seal upon it. Then once the enemey does the typical 'kill every clone in a blink' routine, a field of space-warp seals is what they have waiting for them.

[Guy1]

Hmm...that could work. Although IIRC it required a number of prewritten seals sent in via kunai to funtion.

Then again, if there's anyone that could throw a hundred or so kunai at once, it's Naruto and his clones.

Maybe that clone rush strategy will actually work to his benefit, provided he isn't among the swarm and each clone has a seal upon it. Then once the enemey does the typical 'kill every clone in a blink' routine, a field of space-warp seals is what they have waiting for them.

Well, that would certainly make the Pein fight interesting.

[lokisedge]

You know Naruto doesn't have the chakra for that jutsu.

[GrampaGen]

Well, that would certainly make the Pein fight interesting.

If nothing else, it would allow Pein to see himself get kancho'd from six different angles :biggrin:

[master of read]

Well, that would certainly make the Pein fight interesting.

we;ve been working under the assumption that naruto doesnt know who his parents are. jiraiya could;ve told him about them and maybe taught him the jutsu. when naruto came back to konoha, he did eye minato's face on mt. hokage. and naruto isnt really the type to brag about something like that.

[KamenRaida]

You know Naruto doesn't have the chakra for that jutsu.

Right, because the Kyuubi which has been described as possessing unlimited chakra, which might I add resides in Naruto doesn't laugh at a concept like 'doesn't have the chakra'.

But I guess, you do have a point.

After all, Sasuke pawns whenever he 'runs out of chakra'.

That the Kyuubi, and by proxy Naruto have an unlimited number of chakra means they can never run out of it, thereby meaning they can never truly pawn.

Boy oh boy, what was I thinking. :rolleyes:

[asloveislost]

Right, because the Kyuubi which has been described as possessing unlimited chakra, which might I add resides in Naruto doesn't laugh at a concept like 'doesn't have the chakra'.

But I guess, you do have a point.

After all, Sasuke pawns whenever he 'runs out of chakra'.

That the Kyuubi, and by proxy Naruto have an unlimited number of chakra means they can never run out of it, thereby meaning they can never truly pawn.

Boy oh boy, what was I thinking. :rolleyes:


Sasuke can instantly disable the Kyuubi, meaning Naruto has to use his own chakra...

[GrampaGen]

Sasuke can instantly disable the Kyuubi, meaning Naruto has to use his own chakra...

Of which there still is a lot of.

Regardless, it's not a question of Naruto vs Sasuke I was asking, more wondering what "That Jutsu" is.

[lokisedge]

Right, because the Kyuubi which has been described as possessing unlimited chakra, which might I add resides in Naruto doesn't laugh at a concept like 'doesn't have the chakra'.

But I guess, you do have a point.

After all, Sasuke pawns whenever he 'runs out of chakra'.

That the Kyuubi, and by proxy Naruto have an unlimited number of chakra means they can never run out of it, thereby meaning they can never truly pawn.

Boy oh boy, what was I thinking. :rolleyes:Not to be a ass, but could you seriously be that naive. It's shown, Naruto doesn't have the chakra control to control a insta pwn jutsu like Hirashin as shown with his FRS.

[master of read]

Not to be a ass, but could you seriously be that naive. It's shown, Naruto doesn't have the chakra control to control a insta pwn jutsu like Hirashin as shown with his FRS.

no. too late for you not to be a ass.

[Dark Soul # 7]

we;ve been working under the assumption that naruto doesnt know who his parents are. jiraiya could;ve told him about them and maybe taught him the jutsu. when naruto came back to konoha, he did eye minato's face on mt. hokage. and naruto isnt really the type to brag about something like that.He isn't?

Oh and as for the question about hottest girl I'm going with Ino, she may not be useful in a fight but damn is she hot, for a 15 year old manga character.

But Anko takes it all.

Now for a different question.

Which is your favorite crack-couple in Naruto, that doesn't involve Naruto.

[Ghost]

The thing about "that jutsu" is that it was kinda implied to have something to do with the seal keeping the Kyuubi locked up, and I'm pretty sure Jiraiya said Minato hadn't finished it and that Naruto was the only one who actually could finish it.

This in turn might hint at Minato's reasons for locking the darn thing inside his son to begin with. Naturally, I'm kinda curious about it.

At any rate, it can't be his old man's trademark move. It has to be something more then that.

[lokisedge]

The way I see it Sasuke has developed greater jutsus than Itachi. Itachi hasn't shown a jutsu he created that is on par with any of Sasuke's Raiton. Itachi wasn't exactly given any motive to become more powerful after 13. Proportionally by age, Itachi is more talented most steps of the way.

It'd also be silly to suggest that Itachi's prime was at 13.

[asloveislost]

Of which there still is a lot of.

Regardless, it's not a question of Naruto vs Sasuke I was asking, more wondering what "That Jutsu" is.

Yeah he definitely has a lot, but i was making a point of if he wants to be able to use any really powerful jutsu he has to rely on his own chakr