Thor vs Wonder Woman HTH

[Dark Soul # 7]

In pure one on one fight with no wepons, lightning bolts, superspeed or anything besides their strength, invulnerability and skill who wins between Thor and Wonder Woman.
This is classic Thor of course.

[CDTM]

In pure one on one fight with no wepons, lightning bolts, superspeed or anything besides their strength, invulnerability and skill who wins between Thor and Wonder Woman.
This is classic Thor of course.

Wonder Woman's lifted a battleship. Thor's lifted the Midgard Serpent.

I'd guess WW's warrior skills keep her in the game, but she'll go down.

[Knightosis]

Thor's older. Older = More experienced. Diana goes down.

But it will be a damn good match.

[Andross]

Come on now people in a regular match I would give this to Thor, but let's give Diana some credit here. Also battleships are not the largest thing she has lifted by far, but let's just look at her skills first.

Diana is an above Olympic-level athlete and acrobat who has been trained since infancy in the art of war. The “daughter” of more than 4000 warriors, favored of Athena and granddaughter of Ares, the god of war/conflict, Diana is a master of over 3000 years of armed and unarmed combat. She is a brilliant military strategist and her colleagues in the Justice League often look to her for advice on tactical strategy.

An unparalleled swordswoman and archer, she is nearly peerless with the battleaxe, lasso, quarterstaff, bo staff, dagger, spear, nunchuku, throwing star, sai, tonfa, kama, escrima stick, baton, boomerang and shield and she has mastered Iaido. Diana is an expert hand-to-hand combatant, having perfected innumerable forms unarmed combat including Shaolin, Wing Chun, Pa Kua, Hsing-i, and Tai Chi Kung Fu styles, Aikido, Judo, Jujitsu, Ninpo, Ninjutsu, Taekwondo, Hapkido, Karate, Capoeira, Boxing, Wrestling, Kickboxing, and countless forms of combat lost to the modern world, but still practiced by the various tribes of Amazons. Through her interactions with her teammates and allies, Diana is also proficient in Apokiliptan, Asgardian, Atlantean, Daxamite, Kryptonian, Martian, Okaaran and Titanese forms of combat (ACTION COMICS #761; MISTER MIRACLE #6, WONDER WOMAN #0, 1, 4-6, 9-13, 24-26, 28-35, 54-63, 66-71, 90-100, 139-169, 171-187, 189-195, 200, Special #1).

She also fought in a 1,000 year war with Superman so that should add to her experience. It wouldn't be as much as what Thor has under his belt, but compare how often Thor uses his skills, compared to how often Diana uses hers. I think Diana has a chance.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I think Diana has a chance.


Not really, she´s going down and going down quite hard, I´m affraid.

WW´s invulnerabilty is so legendary that she has to resort to her bracelets to deflect bullets.

[CDTM]

Not really, she´s going down and going down quite hard, I´m affraid.

WW´s invulnerabilty is so legendary that she has to resort to her bracelets to deflect bullets.

There's a difference between durability to piercing and durablity to blunt trauma. Thor still outdoes Wonder Woman where it counts, but we're not exactly talking Spiderman vs Thor here. He'll have a fight on his hands...

[Dark Soul # 7]

Not really, she´s going down and going down quite hard, I´m affraid.

WW´s invulnerabilty is so legendary that she has to resort to her bracelets to deflect bullets.

She has also taken a beating from a Doomsday clone that was stronger then Superman without going down and Thor has been knocked out by a sniper shot.
Just saying.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

She has also taken a beating from a Doomsday clone that was stronger then Superman without going down and Thor has been knocked out by a sniper shot.
Just saying.

Classic Thor took a bullet to the head and fainted, yes, but classic Thor also walked in the sun, something I don´t see WW doing.

Look, you´d be hard pressed to find anyone in these boards who dislikes the guy more than I, but let´s give him props where props are due.

In a slugfest, Thor is up there with Superman in terms of strenght and endurance and Diana herself confessed that Superman could break her spine like a twig without effort.
Same scenario applies.

[Andross]

Not really, she´s going down and going down quite hard, I´m affraid.

WW´s invulnerabilty is so legendary that she has to resort to her bracelets to deflect bullets.

She isn't very good at taking piercing objects, but she has handled pure blunt force quite well. She has taken hits from a Doomsday clone, Ares, Chronus, Darkseid, Superman, Captain Marvel, Heracles (DC Herclues is what I am talking about), Bizarro, Devastation, Scylla, Deimos, Phobos, Eris, Barda, and others. All of these above are at least close, equal, or above Thor in strength, so taking his hits in a pure HTH combat shouldn't be a problem for her. I would also rank Diana as easily being one of the best martial artist in the DCU, making her easily within the top ten of the group. I don't think that Thor is in the top ten amongst his universe.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Classic Thor took a bullet to the head and fainted, yes, but classic Thor also walked in the sun, something I don´t see WW doing.

Look, you´d be hard pressed to find anyone in these boards who dislikes the guy more than I, but let´s give him props where props are due.

In a slugfest, Thor is up there with Superman in terms of strenght and endurance and Diana herself confessed that Superman could break her spine like a twig without effort.
Same scenario applies.

I know, just trying to spice things up.

[Kain's_Legacy]

Good fight, but Thor has it comfortably. He'll get a hell of a fight each time, but in the end he's winning.

[XPac]

It's a good fight that could theoretically go either way (and it's a much funner fight that Superman vs Thor for a lot of reasons). I'm leaning solidly towards Thor, but this isn't a cumberstomp by any stretch of the imagination. It's a good fight.

[Andross]

In a slugfest, Thor is up there with Superman in terms of strenght and endurance and Diana herself confessed that Superman could break her spine like a twig without effort.
Same scenario applies.

Yeah Diana has stated such, but she has also taken on a bloodlusted Superman and ended up stopping him. When Circe turned all of the DC superhero men into monsters, it was up to Diana and her superheroine females to put an end to it. Circe made Superman feel guilt for all of the lives lost in Our Worlds At War, and told him to take out all of his agression on that target, and the target was Wonder Woman. Circe then stated let's see how the World's Greatest Superhero destroys the World's Greatest Superheroine, or something like that.

Diana was on the defensive throughout the entire battle, and Superman was able to break her arm, dislocate her shoulder, hit her with heat vision, and then she blocked two earth shattering punches saying that the next couple would kill her. So Superman most certainly was not holding back, but Diana was only defending herself, and while she did get messed up pretty bad you gotta hand it to her that she didn't give up. She used her Lariat of Truth (Lasso) to reveal to Superman the truth in who she was, after realizing this he stopped his attack. Wonder Woman then went on to later defeat Circe were Superman failed, thus ending the story.

I mean with her determination I could see her giving Thor a pretty good fight, and it I am not denying that he wouldn't get the most wins, but he is going to be hard pressed in every fight because she is one skilled warrior.

Superman/Batman 15 is utter crap. Superman destoryed Diana easily and even broke her indestructible bracelets. I call that bad writing. The bracelets she has is capable of deflecting the entire energies of Olympian Pantheon, so that is like saying that Superman is more powerful than the entire Olympain Pantheon. It would rank him above Skyfather level even, which is stupid. And if anyone has seen "War of the Gods 1-4" knows that the superheroes are no match for the gods.

[Venomous]

I'm thinking Diana 6/10

[Lochdale]

I'm thinking Diana 6/10


Well Diana is the scion of gods whereas Thor is a god. He's been fighting for more than 10,000 years and has fought everything to flaming demons, to elves to giants, trolls and goblins. It would be a tough fight but Thor would win the majority of them.

[Trystenn]

Well Diana is the scion of gods whereas Thor is a god. He's been fighting for more than 10,000 years and has fought everything to flaming demons, to elves to giants, trolls and goblins. It would be a tough fight but Thor would win the majority of them.
Hell even Sif might outdo her when it comes to H2H skills.

[ouiyahtsiouiyah]

Diana takes the majority, she's too skilled for a brawler like Thor

[visemoon]

Good match :D This would be an awesome fight...With these condition I would give it to Thor 6..maybe a HARD 7/10. Awesome Battle ;)

[LordAllMighty]

Thor has never really impressed me as a hand-to-hand fighter, he seems to be more of a brawler then a tactical fighter. Now before somebody jumps down my throat, I'm not saying Thor not a class A fighter, just that I never consider him one. Every time I’ve seen him fight it's with the hammer and it's more overpowering his opponent, then outfighting them with skill.

I think this is a much closer fighter then most are willing to admit.

[Sir Christopher]

If this is an in-character fight, then Diana could use Thor's arrogance against him. He's gotten better since the early days, but we're still talking about someone who's basic strategy amounts to "hit it real hard," pretty much because he enjoys beating on bad guys instead of teleporting them into space. Just look at his first battle with the Hulk, where he refused to use Mjolnir to end the fight because of sheer warrior's pride. Here, he won't even have that option.

[Slayven]

Thor, thor when he was a kid was taking out a pack of wolves bare handed. Asgardian wolves

[Andross]

Well let's just compare Thor's fighting skills to some DC competitors for a moment. Now I really hate using a DC status sheet scale, but just for now let's take a look at it.

Superman and his martial arts ranks him a 5 in this scale. Does most people think that Thor is a better hand to hand fighter than Superman is?

Well you guys can put down your answers but for me I say yes Thor is.

Captain Marvel and Martian Manhunter's martial arts rank them a 6. Does most people think that Thor is a better hand to hand fighter than these two?

Well you guys can put down your input, but I would say at times yes he is.

Hawkman and Aquaman's martial arts rank them an 8. Does most people think that Thor is a better hand to hand fighter than these two?

Well I say he could be, but you guys can put your input down as well.

Deathstroke ranks in the martial arts ranking at a 9. Does most people think that Thor is a better hand to hand combatant than Deathstroke?

I don't think he is, but you guys can put your input on the situation.

Bronze Tiger, Lady Shiva, Batman, and Richard Dragon all rank in the martial arts status around 10. Does anyone think that Thor is on par in hand to hand skills like the guys above are?

I don't think he is but you guys can put in your input on what you think.

Now for Wonder Woman whose martial arts skill ranking comes in at 12. Does anyone think that Thor is a better hand to hand fighter than Diana is?

Well since I didn't think he was for the last two rounds I wouldn't turn around and say that he is now.

To surpass Wonder Woman in hand to hand skills he would need to be on a level with Orion who ranks a 13 and the Karate Kid of Legion ranks a 14.

Either one of these are extremely good at martial arts, as the Kartae Kid has been able to defeat Daxamites with his skills and Orion has sparred with one of the greatest martial artisits in the entire DC universe.

At the top of the list is Ares who is a villain of Wonder Woman and he ranks 16. There isn't no way that Thor's skills can rank with DC Ares.

[Sir Christopher]

It may be observed that Diana, while barely out of her teens and aged in real time, defeated every other warrior on Paradise Island in contests of skill and strength for the right to become their ambassador and champion. You know, all the other warriors who were thousands of years old and battle-tested in mythological Greece. And she's only gained more skill and experience from there.

[Lochdale]

Thos is god however whereas Wonder Woman is basically a rung below the gods. He's been fighting for 10,000 years with a style that was quite appropriate for conquering most of Europe. He's not a brawler but a wrestler and a very good one at that. He is her equal if not her superiorin hth combat and would beat her.

WW, however, would level Sif who is the whiniest of the whiney.

[Sir Christopher]

A little-known fact about post-Crisis Wonder Woman is that she's, while not a technical genius like Reed Richards or Mr. Terrific, generally very gifted intellectually and a very quick study. One of the main reasons she could beat everyone else in the contest was because she picked up everything they taught her, and effectively retained it. Diana had a functional understanding of the millenia-long evolution of Amazonian combat within about a decade, just by being raised around and in that lifestyle, to the point that she could beat all the actual practitioners of said warrior lifestyle in direct competition. Once again, the ones who actually had thousands of years of experience over her. She also learned English to complete native mastery (technically speaking, social relevance obviously took longer) within a week or two of coming to America. That's a learning curve of approximately one year of study per day, simply by exposure to some native speakers and books. The only people who can rival that and don't have specific superpowers to that end usually involve massive telepathy or cybernetic enhancement. She can simply because her mind, like her body, is gifted with the power of gods.

The point I'm trying to get at here is that Diana doesn't just bring her own skills and experience to the table. Her mind can rapidly absorb information and convert it to practically applicable skills with an almost unbelievably low quantity of exposure to new stimuli, hundreds to thousands of times as quickly as most people could, and more efficiently than most speedsters. Put simply, the longer a fight lasts, the more information she has to work with, and the more familiar she becomes with whom she is fighting.

[heretic]

Thor is no skill-less mook, but like it or not he has always had the advantage of freakish (by Asgardian standards) strength to back him up in a fight. Diana OTOH received far more intense instruction and won at least one Thymescria-wide tournament with the bulk of her strength removed.

Make no mistake, this will probably be a case of "I won, now I think I'll lie down." whoever takes it, but Diana edges out goldilocks here.

HTG

[SiliconDream]

Huh...I'm torn. I do think Wonder Woman has greater overall skill, and would generally adjust faster to a temporary power-down. (Just look at how she dealt with being blinded.) But removing her super-speed is going to really hurt her. Just because she doesn't regularly speedblitz or sprint around the world doesn't mean she doesn't use it...I see it aiding her every punch, dodge and block.

I think I go with Thor 6/10. Diana'll make him work for it, but once he gets his hands on her she's done for. His edge in strength and durability is too much for her, IMO.

That's very tentative, though. Probably a good time to review both characters' feats when unarmed or powered-down in various ways.

[Eyeswithoutaface]

Thos is god however whereas Wonder Woman is basically a rung below the gods.

This means absolutely squat in a fight. Wonder Woman has decapitated a god.

[CDTM]

O_o Wow, WW's getting more support then I expected....

Her performance against Supes has me thinking Thor should pretty much own this though. Even if she's beaten many experienced warriors, Thor's pretty much in his own class, just like Supes is pretty much in his despite all the brick clones...

Remember, Thor did match Captain America without his powers.

[CDTM]

I am rooting for WW though, cause I see her as the underdog here. ^_^;

About the only time I don't is when Lobo's involved or something.. root for the underdog, that is. Unless Lobo's the underdog...

[Dark Soul # 7]

Hm, didn´t think WW would get so many supporters. But that´s good makes it a good debate.
This is a frggin hard fight. Thor has the strength advantaged but based on Diana winning that tournament she seems to have more skill. But what is enough to win. They´re both determined warriors who never gives up a fight until they fall. Honestly it could go either way.

[Donald Stone]

Let's see, Thor is stronger, Diana's faster. Thor's tougher, but I think Diana is a better fighter. I'd say a 5/10 tie.

And IMO, if you give them both their gear back Diana's odds go up somewhat.

[Lochdale]

Let's see, Thor is stronger, Diana's faster. Thor's tougher, but I think Diana is a better fighter. I'd say a 5/10 tie.

And IMO, if you give them both their gear back Diana's odds go up somewhat.

I don't think Wonder Woman is faster and I certainly don't think she is a better fighter. Thor has been fighting for 10,000 as is an expert in most weapons (daggers, pole-arms, hammers etc.).

[CDTM]

I don't think Wonder Woman is faster and I certainly don't think she is a better fighter. Thor has been fighting for 10,000 as is an expert in most weapons (daggers, pole-arms, hammers etc.).

From Thors missle catching feats and some other stuff, I'd pretty much agree on the basis that both their effective combat speeds look to be speed of sound or so, as portrayed... Diana does usually display more acrobatic agility though, like when she took it to Captain Marvel a little, or that little sparring session with Superman... Sort of like comparing Gamora to Drax, after a fashion, except the skill to power gulf isn't as great.

[kane]

I think Thor wins.

He is thousands of years old and a fighter since his childhood. As a child he fought against the dark gods and other enemies. He is a warrior god among a warrior god race.
The asgardians love to fight, the do not fear death and he is their prince. He is the protector of the whole realm, he is always in a fight, without a break. For the asgardians its a honor to die in a fight.

He has thousands of years fighting skills and experience. And he never gives up, never.
And don´t forget his warrior rage.

[CDTM]

I think Thor wins.

He is thousands of years old and a fighter since his childhood. As a child he fought against the dark gods and other enemies. He is a warrior god among a warrior god race.
The asgardians love to fight, the do not fear death and he is their prince. He is the protector of the whole realm, he is always in a fight, without a break. For the asgardians its a honor to die in a fight.

He has thousands of years fighting skills and experience. And he never gives up, never.
And don´t forget his warrior rage.

My main problem with these "experienced" warriors in just about any medium, is that it seems only a niche group of people ever actually prove that experience matters. That's usually inevitably the master of the main character, e.g. Hiko to Kenshin or Yoda to Luke...

But then you've got a whole slew of experienced warriors who only seem available to "job" to the main character, and the final boss is usually some majorly experienced and powerful mystical fighter who was emperor of the universe or something, and the main inexperienced character uses his prodigy like skills and beats the tar out of him in the end...

Say, Guts the Black Knight, Ryu, Recca Donno, Captain Marvel (Ok, he did get his ass kicked by Black Adam once), Beta Ray Bill (He can match 10,000 years of experience Thor? O_o), Batgirl (Beat Shiva once), Superman (He beat DRAGGA! The guys supposed to be a warrior of the highest calibur!), Hal Jordan (Rookie Hal beat Sinestro so badly in their first fight it wasn't funny)...

Yeah, experience jobs v_v;

Don't even get me started on Champion...

[Alan2099]

I'd give Wonder Woman a slight edge in agility, but Thor has the edge in strenght and durability.

As for fighting experience, WW is from a Race of Warriors.
Thor is from a race of Warrior Gods that routinely go out and beat the crap out of wolfs and ginast 40 times their size.

I'm going with Thor here.

[Ekko]

"Gods" in comics routinely get beaten by mortals in comics, so I don't think Thor being a God will help. I go with Thor 6/10 because I think he is slightly more durable.

[Stanlos]

Wonder Woman for the win!

[Pike]

Wow, a thread zombie.

Thor is stronger, more durable and as least as good of a fighter.

[Jammin]

Thor has been knocked out by a sniper shot.



Lets not play the low feats game because it can go both ways. :rolleyes:

[Captain Smith]

She drops her top. Then kicks Googly Eyed Thor in the nuts. Then goes for a choke hold. He's done.

BTW, taking away her superspeed (granted it is a giant debate if Thor has any) isn't really fair for a HTH fight. It is an integral part of her abilities, IMHO.

[Pendaran]

Wonder Woman for the win!

This thread was worth ignoring a topic kick over for you?

[Captain Morgan]

She drops her top. Then kicks Googly Eyed Thor in the nuts. Then goes for a choke hold. He's done.

BTW, taking away her superspeed (granted it is a giant debate if Thor has any) isn't really fair for a HTH fight. It is an integral part of her abilities, IMHO.

This was brought up before. I'll say it again: Thor reads Home Gardening. Guy isn't going to care.

[Jammin]

You know, I just noticed the dates...

Wow, lol.

[Pike]

She drops her top. Then kicks Googly Eyed Thor in the nuts. Then goes for a choke hold. He's done.

BTW, taking away her superspeed (granted it is a giant debate if Thor has any) isn't really fair for a HTH fight. It is an integral part of her abilities, IMHO.

She has minimal speed feats. Thor has at least as many.

Also the bullet to the head thing was just stupid but it wasn't just an ordinary bullet. It was shot out of a special rifle that was made to pierce vibranium. Of course, it was stupid but it's not like it was just an ordinary gun.

[Pendaran]

This was brought up before. I'll say it again: Thor reads Home Gardening. Guy isn't going to care.

Nevermind the sheer amount of product, hair knowledge and care it has to take to maintain that 'do.

I can't see Thor finding anyone prettier and more distracting to look at than Thor, as far as such things...

[SiliconDream]

I can't see Thor finding anyone prettier and more distracting to look at than Thor, as far as such things...

And Thor has said that the modern American nudity taboo is bizarre. The entire population of Asgard bathed communally every morning; Diana flashing him wouldn't blow his mind.

[Black Atom]

You know, I just noticed the dates...

Wow, lol.

Same here. I did a double-take when someone early in the thread compared WW's strength to Spider-Man's.

[Sharpandpointies]

Same here. I did a double-take when someone early in the thread compared WW's strength to Spider-Man's.

It could be worse. They might be saying that Spiderman is worth three of her....

[Will.S]

Just throwing this out there but wouldn't this be not too far off from the usual Hercules vs Thor fights?

I'm not saying Herc and Wonder Woman share the same skills but Thor usually doesn't fare too bad agains Herc who uses his grappling style and brute strength.

[BYC]

Wait, no one has said this ends in sex? Cause it really MIGHT end in sex. If this fight was in a crossover, I can totally see them ending on Top Gun "I think you're hot" "I know I'm hot" "Let's take play beach volleyball" type ending.

[Will.S]

Wait, no one has said this ends in sex? Cause it really MIGHT end in sex. If this fight was in a crossover, I can totally see them ending on Top Gun "I think you're hot" "I know I'm hot" "Let's take play beach volleyball" type ending.
Also possible.

[Tom B]

Is it the bearded Thor or the clean shaven Thor?

[Captain Smith]

If it is the bearded, but turned to jelly in a suit of armor Thor, then sex probably won't be the answer.