New female leaguer? [Archive] - Comic Book Resources Forums

Brian R

02-22-2005, 01:45 AM

I always felt like the league needed more women. It seems like the only one who can stay on is Diana, none of the others are ever part of the team for very long, so who would you like to join the team that has never been a member? It has to be a woman, dont forget.

The ones that come to mind immediately are:

Raven
Nice power level, experienced, very distinct power set.

Starfire
Strength, flight, energy blasts, plus she is HOT.

Stargirl
I know she is in JSA, but there is such a large cast there that we hardly get to see her.

Rich L

02-22-2005, 02:36 AM

Raven
Nice power level, experienced, very distinct power set.

Too young in her current incarnation, and too immature.

Starfire
Strength, flight, energy blasts, plus she is HOT.

Never liked her. A bit of a non-character to me.

Stargirl
I know she is in JSA, but there is such a large cast there that we hardly get to see her.

Great character but she belongs in JSA - and she gets plenty of exposure there, more than most.

What about....

Power Girl - almost iconic, experienced, good power level.

Black Canary - founding member, very experienced, great combat skill set and lots of connections.

Fire - she likes to shake that Brazilian booty, and she's hot. Literally.

Huntress - okay, so it didn't work before but every team should have an archer of some kind, and crossbows kinda count.

Crimson Fox - death is never forever in comics and she has zee sexy French...ah, who am I kidding?

Hawkgirl - sure, she's JSA material but you know she and Carter would make great additions to the JLA too.

Phantom Lady - because the outfit rules and a new younger version is knocking around the DCU somewhere.

Jade - because John Stewart bores me. And the Outsiders is starting too.

guedo79

02-22-2005, 06:41 AM

Power Girl - almost iconic, experienced, good power level.

Power Girl still has the 'Superman' problem. Her powers are too similar to Superman's. So when the writers are forced to choose between the two Superman will always win out.

Black Canary - founding member, very experienced, great combat skill set and lots of connections.

I can't think of a reason she couldn't come back to the JLA

Huntress - okay, so it didn't work before but every team should have an archer of some kind, and crossbows kinda count.

Didn't she already turn them down. Something to do with Batman.

Rich L

02-22-2005, 07:16 AM

Power Girl still has the 'Superman' problem. Her powers are too similar to Superman's. So when the writers are forced to choose between the two Superman will always win out.

This is true. But then it could be argued that power-wise there is very little to differentiate a lot of characters - it's all about how the character is handled.

Didn't she already turn them down. Something to do with Batman.

She got fired from the League by Batman because she was about to kill Prometheus, but I seem to recall her being a member of the post-Giffen League at some point, possibly the JLE? Not sure if she was one of the replacements approached in Obsidian Age, can't remember.

Typo Lad

02-22-2005, 08:49 AM

Huntress's membership in the Maxwell Lord JLA has most likely been retconned away.

Which is a shame.

Expletive Deleted

02-22-2005, 09:57 AM

I don't believe it's been actively retconned, although it's certainly never referenced.

Ray192

02-22-2005, 02:27 PM

um... Zatana?

BWilly

02-22-2005, 02:48 PM

I agree that the League could use more than one female member. The problem is finding characters that fit in well with the Big 7. A lot of female characters that are fun to read on their own or on other teams just wouldn't fit in with the current JLA.

I don't think these would fit:

Huntress, mentioned above, I don't think would be a good pick. She is too much like Batman, minus the great qualities. She is Batman with lessor fighting skills, minus the detective skills, and minus the morals. I liked how she was kicked out of the League for attempting to kill. That isn't what the League stands for.

Raven is much too young and inexperienced.

Stargirl is also too young for the League.

Good choices, IMO:
Black Canary, mentioned earlier, would be a great choice. She has experience, history with the League, and adds to the League power-wise now that she has her sonic scream again.

Zatanna, also mentioned earlier, seems an obvious choice. The League could use a magic user. She is very powerful and a writer could do a lot with her powers. Also, I am a sucker for the satellite era League.

And what about Moon Maiden from the JLA 80 Pg. Giant #3? I don't remember if she exists after the end of that book, but she was a character with a solid backstory and interesting powers.

Doug Strange

02-22-2005, 03:21 PM

And what about Moon Maiden from the JLA 80 Pg. Giant #3? I don't remember if she exists after the end of that book, but she was a character with a solid backstory and interesting powers.You're my new favorite poster. I'd put her in the League in a heartbeat. And if I ever write the Justice League, I will.

I'd want Tomorrow Woman back in, too. She's too awesome to stay dead.

BWilly

02-22-2005, 04:50 PM

I'd want Tomorrow Woman back in, too. She's too awesome to stay dead.

Tomorrow Woman is a great character. What I liked about her is that her power was one that you don't see a lot of DCU characters having.

My (selfish) reason for not listing her in my earlier post is that I am a huge Red Tornado fan. I figure there isn't room for two androids on a team, and I would much rather see Reddy than TW.

Brian R

02-22-2005, 10:34 PM

I was trying to look at women who havent been in the league. Thats why I didnt mention Zatanna or Black Canary, both of whom i love. I believe i specified that in my original post.

titanfan

02-23-2005, 11:18 AM

If I had to put an established female superhero whose never been in the League before, Starfire would be my #1 choice. She's fairly popular, is powerful enough to hang with the bug guns, and her personality is a good contrast to the others in the Big 7.

In terms of existing female leaguers, Zatanna makes the most sense. I'm sick of them making up silly excuses to constantly explain why Zatanna hasn't joined up yet. Black Canary and Fire both could fit there too, imho. I guess I can say Canary prefers to be in BOP and Fire isn't popular enough. But Fire would actually probably want to be there. Her league tenure was actually pretty long compared to most others.

I loved Moon Maiden and would love to see her back too.

BWilly

02-23-2005, 11:53 AM

I was trying to look at women who havent been in the league. Thats why I didnt mention Zatanna or Black Canary, both of whom i love. I believe i specified that in my original post.

Gotcha.

My point is that I don't see any female characters in the DCU that have never been members that would make good members. That is why I posted why I thought some of the suggestions in this thread weren't good fits and then posted why the former members would be good fits again.

Glaucon

02-23-2005, 12:01 PM

Zatanna would get my vote, but that wouldn't exactly be a 'new' leaguer and doesn't seem that likely.
At least I will have my Seven Soldiers!

Flying Fruitbat

02-25-2005, 02:57 PM

How about Saturn Girl or another member of the Legion? It would be interesting to see how a young mature heroine from the future would be treated in another time.

Toreador

02-25-2005, 03:49 PM

Powerwise Firehawk would be a good choice. Her powers aren't already duplicated by the others. Although MM would be a little wary of her.

marshal99

02-25-2005, 05:47 PM

Sweet Sixteen should join so that all the guys in the JLA can go ga ga over her. ;) Of course, she would get lynched by Wonder woman , Lois Lane & Linda Park after that. :D

tangentman

02-26-2005, 10:11 PM

Nightshade might be a good choice, if they corrected the events of L.A.W.
Skyrocket seems like JLA material.
Tsunami would probably shake things up, and she's a veteran of WWII.

handOFfate

02-26-2005, 10:36 PM

Anybody but Huntress. Why have a lesser Green Arrow on the team?

Sandy Hausler

02-27-2005, 11:52 AM

um... Zatana?

Amen.

Sandy Hausler

Sandy Hausler

02-27-2005, 11:53 AM

Powerwise Firehawk would be a good choice. Her powers aren't already duplicated by the others. Although MM would be a little wary of her.

Didn't she give up the hero thing in Identity Crisis? Not that that means anything in the long run, but we're still in the short run.

Sandy Hausler

Toreador

02-27-2005, 12:45 PM

All that's needed is a writer willing to use Firehawk and come up with decent storylines.

BWilly

02-27-2005, 03:16 PM

All that's needed is a writer willing to use Firehawk and come up with decent storylines.

That and they have to wait until they are done using her in Firestorm. Not sure how long they are using her. She has shown up there lately and I think she would be a good addition to the supporting cast.

Forefinger

03-29-2005, 03:02 AM

I'd be all for Jade, Powergirl, or Starfire joining. More eye candy!! I'd mainly vote for Jade and Starfire since I'm not collecting Outsiders and Teen Titans. They could always bring back Big Barda to the team, she's pretty hot for being so...big eh? That could lead to funny moments like Plastic Man being her dress again. Also, since the Super buddies storyline in JLA Classified is taking place in another time, they could bring Mary Marvel or Fire over. I liked Morrison's idea of expanding the JLA roster to include the big 7, but adding some others to the mix as well. Keep the big seven, add more hot comic babes eh?

Tobias March

04-02-2005, 07:53 AM

I started reading this thread from the start, so I was surprised it took so long for anyone to mention Mary Marvel. Mayhaps some would argue she's not a good fit for the same reason as Power Girl - but her personality would shake things up quite a bit more.

Lets reform a villainess and put her in. Any suggestions? Bueller?

Gingold

04-02-2005, 08:14 AM

Thoughts on more female JLAers:

I always thought that Starfire (along with Cyborg and Nightwing) should've made the jump to JLA status a while ago.

I'm always in favor of Black Canary, Zatanna, Vixen and Barda coming back.

I love Fire, Ice and Crimson Fox but they're not quite JLA material in the way that the League is currently configured. (and two of them are dead :( )

Power Girl, Huntress, and Hawkgirl are faves but I want them all in JSA.

Tomorrow Woman was such a great one-off character that it would cheapen the impact of JLA #5 to bring her back.

I'd like to see Nightshade and Phantom Lady on the team.

Reforming a villainess might be cool- Silver Swan, Gudra, Catwoman, Killer Frost, Queen Bee?

tangentman

04-02-2005, 08:14 AM

Reformed villainess...well, there's always Magenta. No magnetic Leaguers in the team.

Tobias March

04-02-2005, 08:19 AM

Reformed villainess...well, there's always Magenta. No magnetic Leaguers in the team.

You know that might work. Just to stick it to Austen's 'Magneta', in X-Men. Ugh.

hotrodimus

04-02-2005, 02:13 PM

what about hawkwoman from thanagar?

Suzanne

04-03-2005, 09:38 PM

That'll work for me, Rod :cool:

Brian R

04-03-2005, 09:48 PM

what about hawkwoman from thanagar?

Where the heck is she anyway? I hadnt heard one peep about her until Countdown.

Can anyone tell me what she has been up to? Also, why is there a Hawkwoman AND a Hawkgirl, shouldnt they be the same person or something, going by all that Hawkman reincarnation stuff.

Toreador

04-03-2005, 10:13 PM

Last I saw of Shayera she was taking Bythe back to Thanagar and she planned on staying a while before heading back to Earth.

There's a Hawkman and HawkGIRL because because the two souls keep being reincarnated after they die.

protege

04-03-2005, 10:28 PM

You know that might work. Just to stick it to Austen's 'Magneta', in X-Men. Ugh.
I wouldn't mind it, if she got a better looking outfit...

Brian R

04-03-2005, 10:29 PM

Forefinger

04-03-2005, 10:34 PM

Lets reform a villainess and put her in. Any suggestions? Bueller?
I'm sticking with eye candy...Poison Ivy. In some of her appearances, she is very powerful in her own right, and sometimes seems to have complete control over all plants. I doubt that she could be convince to play along with the JLA unless they convinced her that she would be protecting the planet and all plant life on the planet by joining the JLA. Could be interesting.

Suzanne

04-05-2005, 10:29 PM

So, Hawkwoman is just a woman from Thanagar, and is not part of that convoluted Hawkman stuff?Well, I'll put it this way. Yes, she's from Thanagar. She's not involved in the reincarnation angle, BUT her backstory is just as convoluted as Hawkman's. She and partner Katar Hol were first introduced during the silver age; back then, she went by "Hawkgirl." I think it was changed to "Hawkwoman" during the late '70s or early '80s. Anyway, when Hawkworld was released in the late '80s, it was intended to be a "Year One" type story, set before the Thanagarian Hawks came to Earth. However, it was changed to take place in the present. Their silver age adventures were retconned out as a result. DC's now saying Carter & Shiera Hall, the golden age Hawkman & Hawkgirl, lived those out. Hope that clears things up :D

PS - I like your avatar :) Who is it of?

Brian R

04-05-2005, 10:35 PM

PS - I like your avatar :) Who is it of?

Thanks! Its a picture of "Iron Lad" from the Young Avengers. I know his name is kinda lame, but he is a cool character, he is actually Kang . :D

PanzerMega

04-06-2005, 08:48 PM

Zatanna is great, but magic users in the league never interested me much.

I'd go with Black Canary or Fire.

bannermanonemillion

04-07-2005, 05:33 PM

Zatanna is great, but magic users in the league never interested me much.

I'd go with Black Canary or Fire.

I say get Zatanna back now.

Do you want the next writer to make up another mage for the League? Do we need another Manitou Raven?

Suzanne

04-07-2005, 10:06 PM

Thanks! Its a picture of "Iron Lad" from the Young Avengers. I know his name is kinda lame, but he is a cool character, he is actually Kang . :D
I had a feeling it was someone related to Iron Man. He reminds me of a Transformer. Thanks :)

Sandy Hausler

04-08-2005, 05:35 AM

I say get Zatanna back now.

Do you want the next writer to make up another mage for the League? Do we need another Manitou Raven?

Actually, what happened to him? Did he just fade away because of lack of interest?<g>

Sandy Hausler

Typo Lad

04-08-2005, 05:49 AM

Actually, what happened to him? Did he just fade away because of lack of interest?<g>

Sandy Hausler

he died. YAY!

SuperJ

04-08-2005, 06:34 AM

I'm gonna have to go with Powergirl and Black Canary as my choices. Both are interesting characters, have a large amount of sex appeal, and have lots of experience. I'd like to see Crimson Fox brought back but I doubt that's going to happen. Still...Sue Dibney is alive and dead at the same time so who really knows?

I have zero interest in Hawkgirl on just about any level so she'd bring nothing to the book for me, I hate to say.

BWilly

04-08-2005, 11:05 AM

Still...Sue Dibney is alive and dead at the same time so who really knows?

Well actually, continuity wise she isn't. The JLA: Classified stories can take place at any time in DC continuity. The current story takes place before Identity Crises.

Kid Seven

04-08-2005, 11:40 AM

People have mentioned Hawkwoman, and that seems like a good idea to me. I dunno why, I guess I just like the idea of the Hawk mantle being carried in both JL books. Gives more credence to the idea of a legacy for me I guess

Anti-Lad

04-08-2005, 01:04 PM

Liberty Belle, or Miss America. Both are still pretty spry and youngish. It would be a lot more interesting than the dopey stuff they have right now in the League. The female robot from the Metal Men would also be a welcome change. If a reformed villain is your choice, have Lady Flash come on for a while. Black Orchid first appeared in the Super Friends comic in the mid-1970's, maybe she could come to be part of the JLA? Emperess is out of sorts since Young Justice broke up, busy raising her parents de-evolved to infants, maybe she could pitch in.

o1pickleboy

04-12-2005, 01:39 PM

With the Titans not being the Titans and her reserection. She could use a home. In JLA it would be a perfect place to fix her orgin and clear up her and Wonder Woman's issues. Plus who says sisters can be on the same team.

Sandy Hausler

04-13-2005, 05:31 AM

Kid Seven

04-13-2005, 11:58 AM

Forefinger

04-19-2005, 02:54 AM

I like that. Donna Troy, Justice League member. She just seems beyond the Titans at this point; after all, it's where she started. but she's done so much else in her career. She was a Darkstar for Christ's sake! Outsiders? Eh, no.
You think they would do that with her sister, Wonder Woman, being part of the team as well? I'd like to see her in JSA maybe.

spEEdy

04-19-2005, 10:34 AM

Who is MOON MAIDEN and whats her powers?
Any pics?

Cloak

04-24-2005, 11:52 PM

Who is MOON MAIDEN and whats her powers?
Any pics?

Ditto, I hear about her every now and again, but I've yet to find concrete info on her.

Expletive Deleted

04-25-2005, 06:09 AM

Ditto, I hear about her every now and again, but I've yet to find concrete info on her.Her one and only appearance was JLA 80-PAGE GIANT #3.

http://vu.morrissey-solo.com/moz/perez/jla-a/moonmaidz.jpg

Cayman

04-25-2005, 08:43 AM

I'd love to see Shayera Thal on the team. With so many Green Lanterns zipping around, I don't see how it makes things especially confusing to have a third Hawk character on active duty. She is distinct enough from Hawkman and Hawkgirl to stand on her own.

Tomorrow Woman would be cool too. I loved it when she came back in Hourman.

Cay

LukeRed5

04-25-2005, 09:15 AM

Well, if Batman gets kicked off the League because of the incidents in OMAC, I'd like to see Nightwing come in with Starfire and she can be the new female leaguer.

Kid Kyoto

04-25-2005, 05:16 PM

Power Girl still has the 'Superman' problem. Her powers are too similar to Superman's. So when the writers are forced to choose between the two Superman will always win out.

Why not Supergirl then?

Bear with me. The current SG is young, inexperiences and suspect. Superman is determined to mold her and raise her. If he were to shoehorn her into the league it would not only add another powerful woman but also, more importantly create interesing characterizations. Some would resent that she got onto the A list through nepotism, others would welcome her assuming she's the same as SUperman, she might feel inadequite and unready or even unwilling but pushed into the family business by her 'dad'.

Failing that... I vote for Firehawk. Interesting look, potentially useful powers, character is a bit of a blank slate.

knight16

04-26-2005, 01:45 PM

The JLA need more women. The Outsiders and Teen Titans are their opposites. They have too many.

The problem I guess is that most of the senior heroes are guys while the younger ones along with the sidekicks are females ie Batgirl,Red Arrow,Aquagirl,etc. Why no Wonder Boy?

But seriously the older man/younger girl tensions work well in Hawkman so why not?

My vote goes to Jade. Resurect Jessie Quick. And bring back Faith

Also maybe they should consider that female Manhunter.

Cayman

04-26-2005, 02:04 PM

Shellhead

04-27-2005, 08:18 AM

I don't think Manhunter would work in JLA. She's a murderer.

Cay

Besides, it would get confusing with the Martian Manhunter on the same team. Maybe they would have to call her the Human Manhunter, or the Manhuntress, or maybe come up with one of those golden age sidekick type names, like Sandy or Speedy or Robin.

Dr. Hfuhruhurr

04-27-2005, 09:34 AM

Besides, it would get confusing with the Martian Manhunter on the same team. Maybe they would have to call her the Human Manhunter, or the Manhuntress, or maybe come up with one of those golden age sidekick type names, like Sandy or Speedy or Robin.

Or "Killer?"

I wouldn't mind seeing a brand new heroine in the JLA either. It's not like DC has an excess of great female heroes. I admit some of the new heroines introduced in the JLA in the past have been real clunkers (I'm thinking of, say, the Crimson Foxes, Maya, Mystek, and even Faith, who hasn't been so great IMO). Some of the heroines who have been with the JLA in the past, like Canary and Zatanna, seemed to have moved on to bigger and better things (really, when was Canary ever a factor in JLA? Much more enjoyable in BoP and I'm intrigued by Zee in Morrison's Seven Soldiers), while Hawkwoman, it seems to me, would be too confusing given the state of Hawkman continuity (as much as I like the character). And I'd rather see someone new than the female counterparts to some of the male JLAers (i.e. Supergirl, Batgirl, etc.).

Cayman

04-27-2005, 10:42 AM

Oh, Squire from JLA Classified 1-3 was great. Bring her onboard too.

Cay

Staredcraft

04-27-2005, 01:33 PM

What about bring back Kimiyo Hoshi, the female Dr.Light? (But back in her old balck and white costume of course, not that horrid yellow and white one) I mean she WAS the leader of JLE after Hal went nuts...granted that only lasted like 6 issues but still WAS one of the founding members of the JLA when it reformed originally.

Smarty Jones

04-29-2005, 06:32 AM

I can see several women joining The JLA's roster and there would not be a dropoff.

I've always liked Starfire as a potential member. She has an established history with Flash during their Teen Titan days, plus her background could lead to The JLA having more dealings with interstellar travels. Also, it would be interesting to see her interacting with Batman and seeing how The Dark Knight compares and contrasts with Nightwing, plus a connection with Wonder Woman via Donna Troy. Another thing Kory adds is someone with long-distance striking power.

Zatanna would be a logical one to rejoin the team. She's certainly powerful enough and she's a former JLAer. Also, it would be interesting to see the tension between her and Batman in light of the events in "Identity Crisis." From what I have read of Grant Morrison's "Seven Soldiers of Victory," it doesn't seem to be continuity-tied, so I don't anything in there affecting her.

If you want to go slightly off the beaten path, how about Mary Marvel? She's powerful and young, but yet she's not a total Superman clone like Supergirl is. Wonder Woman could become her mentor. Mary Marvel is also more of a blank slate, since the Marvel family is not seen that often (especially since Captain Marvel is no longer in The JSA).

JelloBiafra

04-29-2005, 04:10 PM

My "top five female heroes in the DCU who have never been members of the JLA but should be" (whew that was long!):

Starfire
Hawkwoman
Madame Xanadu
Skyrocket
Katana

Kid Kyoto

04-29-2005, 05:25 PM

How about...

Goldstar?

(Give yourself a gold star if you know who she is)

In questions like this I like the question from Unca Cheeks' old site, what does he/she bring to party storywise? At the end of the day writing a book is not about the most powerful characters or best looking but interesting stories.

So... Goldstar. Back in his own book Booster Gold's agent had STAR labs come up with a supersuit for Booster's female partner. First his secretary wore it, then his sister, and then it was destroyed. But I think a female Booster Gold type hero would really add something to the JLA mix.

Imagine Britney Spears or Anna Kornakova with superpowers. A shameless self-promoter using JLA membership to sell calanders or records. Any soap opera knoews the story-telling value of a good 'rhymes with witch' and the JLA could certainly use some more internal conflict.

knight16

05-02-2005, 08:55 AM

DC has always been short of female heroes other than teenage sidekicks.

Allow me to reco a new set, all who are all woman and over 21 yrs of age..

Wrh not ISIS who had her own DC comic book (in the 70's or 80's?)

Or how about MISS LIBERTY who could be retconned

Why not a recruit from the other side of the fence, STAR SAPPHIRE

Better still a long neglected and forgotten classic, PHANTOM LADY