The following people versus THIS magic sword

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

The sword Farslayer(From Fred Saberhagen's Book of Swords) was made by Vulcan and is used like this: You say ' For thy heart, For thy heart, Who has wronged me', then say the name of the person who has wronged you and throw the sword. The sword followes the target until it hits it or something else negates it(such as another strong magic force) and can go anywhere where its target is. Can the following people stop/survive/it?

Jean Grey(Phoenix)
Superman
Thanos(able to die version)
Silver Surfer
Juggernaught(current version)
Tenchi Masaki(LHW up)
Dr.Doom
Magneto
Night Crawler(can he trap it in the dimension he goes through while teleporting)
Flash
Green Lantern(sheild up)
Raven(sheild up)

So,who survives?

[JerrBear81]

The sword Farslayer(From Fred Saberhagen's Book of Swords) was made by Vulcan and is used like this: You say ' For thy heart, For thy heart, Who has wronged me', then say the name of the person who has wronged you and throw the sword. The sword followes the target until it hits it or something else negates it(such as another strong magic force) and can go anywhere where its target is. Can the following people stop/survive/it?

Jean Grey(Phoenix)
Superman
Thanos(able to die version)
Silver Surfer
Juggernaught(current version)
Tenchi Masaki(LHW up)
Dr.Doom
Magneto
Night Crawler(can he trap it in the dimension he goes through while teleporting)
Flash
Green Lantern(sheild up)
Raven(sheild up)

So,who survives?

Possibly Jean Grey and Raven, maybe Magneto. I think Silver Surfer can stop it.

Everyone else dies.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Possibly Jean Grey and Raven, maybe Magneto. I think Silver Surfer can stop it.

Everyone else dies.

Really? How about everyone gets 10 seconds of prep time before it hits them,does anyone else survive?

[Chou Blaster]

Dude, Thanos can survive that sword. He cna control his freakken molecules to ponit that yeah he is that tough to survive. Plus SIvler Surfer sbiggest blasts do nothing to Thanos.

Super Man's weakness is magic (Besides kryponite), so when he gets cuts, gets cut BAD.

Tenchi's Light Hawk wings blow up the sword.

Silver Surfer can turn it into something harmless. Jean would elekinteci hold it in place.

Flash just vibrates, so sword goes thorugh him with no damage.

If Juggernaut is in suckage phase, he dies.

Dr.Doom in armor ahs ntohing to fear, Mytholgoy GOd lgihting does nothing to the suit, so a magic sword does nothing.

If sword is made up metla Magnetism can effect, he beeds til it breaks, or molds it until it is a blunt object. Or slippy stops it from approaching him.

Unless Sword can well phase out of DImesional TIme Space, if sword followed Ngiht Crawler in bamf phase, it is stuck.

And the Green lantern shield survives, based on who is the ring bearer.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Dude, Thanos can survive that sword. He cna control his freakken molecules to ponit that yeah he is that tough to survive. Plus SIvler Surfer sbiggest blasts do nothing to Thanos.

Super Man's weakness is magic (Besides kryponite), so when he gets cuts, gets cut BAD.

Tenchi's Light Hawk wings blow up the sword.

Silver Surfer can turn it into something harmless. Jean would elekinteci hold it in place.

Flash just vibrates, so sword goes thorugh him with no damage.

If Juggernaut is in suckage phase, he dies.

Dr.Doom in armor ahs ntohing to fear, Mytholgoy GOd lgihting does nothing to the suit, so a magic sword does nothing.

If sword is made up metla Magnetism can effect, he beeds til it breaks, or molds it until it is a blunt object. Or slippy stops it from approaching him.

Unless Sword can well phase out of DImesional TIme Space, if sword followed Ngiht Crawler in bamf phase, it is stuck.

And the Green lantern shield survives, based on who is the ring bearer.

The sword can only be stopped via stronger magic or a VERY VERY strong sheild(force sheild). I can only remember two people who survived FarSlayer,and they only survived because they each had a sword of power.

As for the Flash,vibrating through it might not work because unless he stays that way forevev,it will keep trying to get him.(I was thinking he might be able to Speed Force dump it) As for the Green Lanterns,all of them. Can any of their sheilds stand up to it?

P.S. Have you read the series? I thought it was an awesome series,how about you?

[Chou Blaster]

The sword can only be stopped via stronger magic or a VERY VERY strong sheild(force sheild). I can only remember two people who survived FarSlayer,and they only survived because they each had a sword of power.

As for the Flash,vibrating through it might not work because unless he stays that way forevev,it will keep trying to get him.(I was thinking he might be able to Speed Force dump it) As for the Green Lanterns,all of them. Can any of their sheilds stand up to it?

P.S. Have you read the series? I thought it was an awesome series,how about you?


Well Green lantern RIngs of Power are basicly Cosmic pwoered magic rings, so I do not see why not they could not survive.


But no I ahve not read the series.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Well Green lantern RIngs of Power are basicly Cosmic pwoered magic rings, so I do not see why not they could not survive.


But no I ahve not read the series.

You should,great series. So, Alan Scott,Hal Jordon,Guy Gardner,John Stewart,and Kyle Raynor all survive?

[saintjon]

I saw that series at chapter's, I think I'll get it next time I'm there. Looked good.

[Chou Blaster]

You should,great series. So, Alan Scott,Hal Jordon,Guy Gardner,John Stewart,and Kyle Raynor all survive?


Well until power rusn out of ring, ro time limit effect, or if the energy of Energy could really over power the Swords energy niput. (Kyle's can.)

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

I saw that series at chapter's, I think I'll get it next time I'm there. Looked good.

It is,as is it's sequel the 'Book of Lost Swords' series. One of the first fantasy series' I ever read and still one of the best IMO.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

What about Capain America? Could the sword get him? And what about Flash? Could a speed force dump work? And remember,the sword is relentless.

Here is a thought,the sword doesn't stop unless overpowered somehow or its victim is dead. So what happens when it is used against Wolverine,Hulk,Thor,or Scarlet Witch?

[saintjon]

I'm pretty sure Mjolnir is strong enough mojo to outdo it.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

I'm pretty sure Mjolnir is strong enough mojo to outdo it.

What about the others?

[saintjon]

Well adamantium isn't really magical so I think it'd just wear Cap down and kill him eventually.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Well adamantium isn't really magical so I think it'd just wear Cap down and kill him eventually.

Yeah,I would have to agree. Not sure what would happen to Hulk or Wolverine but I think the chaos magic that surrounds Wanda will protect her.

[saintjon]

I think wolvie's dead or at least neutralized too. Even if you can regenerate to functionality with a sword through the heart it makes life awkard.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

I think wolvie's dead or at least neutralized too. Even if you can regenerate to functionality with a sword through the heart it makes life awkard.

True,though from what I've heard,he has survivrd being impaled by a sword.
But,I don't think it can get through his adamantium.I say it has a 50/50
chance of killing/neutralizing him.

[Deviant Juvenile]

Farslayer isn't just a sword that can fly across the world. It will kill any one being in the world, with some exceptions. Woundhealer being thrust into the person at roughly the same time, and Shieldbreaker being /weilded/ will stop Farslayer(the second way destroys Farslayer). Doomgiver /may/ cause Farslayer to turn around and go back at whoever threw it at you. Coinspinner may not affect it, I'm not sure.

Part of Farslayers magic is that it will kill anything it's used on. Dragons, demons, undead, whatever. The downside to Farslayer is that it doesn't come back. If the target had any friends nearby, they can take the sword and send it back at you. Then you die.

These swords are plot device incarnate. They slew the gods that made them.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Farslayer isn't just a sword that can fly across the world. It will kill any one being in the world, with some exceptions. Woundhealer being thrust into the person at roughly the same time, and Shieldbreaker being /weilded/ will stop Farslayer(the second way destroys Farslayer). Doomgiver /may/ cause Farslayer to turn around and go back at whoever threw it at you. Coinspinner may not affect it, I'm not sure.

Part of Farslayers magic is that it will kill anything it's used on. Dragons, demons, undead, whatever. The downside to Farslayer is that it doesn't come back. If the target had any friends nearby, they can take the sword and send it back at you. Then you die.

These swords are plot device incarnate. They slew the gods that made them.

Hmm,seems you've read the books too. And yeah,they were plot device's come to think of it. They were still cool though. So,who on the list I gave can survive Farslayer?

[Deviant Juvenile]

Hmm,seems you've read the books too. And yeah,they were plot device's come to think of it. They were still cool though. So,who on the list I gave can survive Farslayer?

Nobody.

*character limit dance*

[JerrBear81]

Farslayer isn't just a sword that can fly across the world. It will kill any one being in the world, with some exceptions. Woundhealer being thrust into the person at roughly the same time, and Shieldbreaker being /weilded/ will stop Farslayer(the second way destroys Farslayer). Doomgiver /may/ cause Farslayer to turn around and go back at whoever threw it at you. Coinspinner may not affect it, I'm not sure.

Part of Farslayers magic is that it will kill anything it's used on. Dragons, demons, undead, whatever. The downside to Farslayer is that it doesn't come back. If the target had any friends nearby, they can take the sword and send it back at you. Then you die.

These swords are plot device incarnate. They slew the gods that made them.

Of course there's a downside to the Sword. Anyone who has used it seems to die.

[JerrBear81]

Really? How about everyone gets 10 seconds of prep time before it hits them,does anyone else survive?

Probably not. Farslayer is one of the more powerful Swords. Personally I liked Coinspinner.

Woundhealer is cool in that if two people are using it at once they fall in love :D

[Metal_Solid]

Dude, Thanos can survive that sword. He cna control his freakken molecules to ponit that yeah he is that tough to survive. Plus SIvler Surfer sbiggest blasts do nothing to Thanos.

Super Man's weakness is magic (Besides kryponite), so when he gets cuts, gets cut BAD.

Tenchi's Light Hawk wings blow up the sword.

Silver Surfer can turn it into something harmless. Jean would elekinteci hold it in place.

Flash just vibrates, so sword goes thorugh him with no damage.

If Juggernaut is in suckage phase, he dies.

Dr.Doom in armor ahs ntohing to fear, Mytholgoy GOd lgihting does nothing to the suit, so a magic sword does nothing.

If sword is made up metla Magnetism can effect, he beeds til it breaks, or molds it until it is a blunt object. Or slippy stops it from approaching him.

Unless Sword can well phase out of DImesional TIme Space, if sword followed Ngiht Crawler in bamf phase, it is stuck.

And the Green lantern shield survives, based on who is the ring bearer.

Superman could outrace it intil he could find something to stop the sword also would heal anyway if he get's cut. With plenty of sunlight of course.

[Deviant Juvenile]

Probably not. Farslayer is one of the more powerful Swords. Personally I liked Coinspinner.

Woundhealer is cool in that if two people are using it at once they fall in love :D

Heh, that'd be fun.

Walk up to some hot chick.

Impale your hand on the sword then stick her with it before she runs away.

Instant action.

[Deviant Juvenile]

Superman could outrace it intil he could find something to stop the sword also would heal anyway if he get's cut. With plenty of sunlight of course.

No, you don't understand. There is no outrunning it, there is no healing it, and there is no stopping it. Farslayer was the third strongest sword, after Shieldbreaker and Woundhealer, and only those two will prevent Farslayer from killing you.

If it helps, think of Farslayer as the Ultimate Nullifier aimed at one person.

[JerrBear81]

Heh, that'd be fun.

Walk up to some hot chick.

Impale your hand on the sword then stick her with it before she runs away.

Instant action.

Lol! Well if I remember correctly from the book (The Complete Book of Swords, a volumized version or Books 1 2 and 3), Mark and his girlfriend fell in love by the sword.

Mark was dying so Aphrodite plunged the Sword through the girl's back and Mark's back as they were spooning each other. After Mark was healed, he realized he was in love with the girl and vice-versa.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

No, you don't understand. There is no outrunning it, there is no healing it, and there is no stopping it. Farslayer was the third strongest sword, after Shieldbreaker and Woundhealer, and only those two will prevent Farslayer from killing you.

If it helps, think of Farslayer as the Ultimate Nullifier aimed at one person.

I could have sworn that someone with strong enough magic(Raven) could repel/nulify it. By the way,which sword was your favorite?

I'm leaning towards Sightblinder. Imagine what you could do with that baby! :D

[Michael P]

Superman could outrace it intil he could find something to stop the sword also would heal anyway if he get's cut. With plenty of sunlight of course.
Magic sword, dude.

[The Watcher]

Farslayer isn't just a sword that can fly across the world. It will kill any one being in the world, with some exceptions. Woundhealer being thrust into the person at roughly the same time, and Shieldbreaker being /weilded/ will stop Farslayer(the second way destroys Farslayer). Doomgiver /may/ cause Farslayer to turn around and go back at whoever threw it at you. Coinspinner may not affect it, I'm not sure.

Part of Farslayers magic is that it will kill anything it's used on. Dragons, demons, undead, whatever. The downside to Farslayer is that it doesn't come back. If the target had any friends nearby, they can take the sword and send it back at you. Then you die.

These swords are plot device incarnate. They slew the gods that made them.Since it's a magical effect which allows Farslayer to slay anything, one would surmise that someone would enough mystical resistance to magical effects would be able to not be slain by the sword's magic.

Now obviously the gods of Farslayer's world did not have the mystical resilience to resist dying. But I wouldn't rule out the possibility that some uber powerful beings from other settings would have enough resistance to qualify as survivors.

I'd say Thanos could likely qualify.

From what I heard, Tenchi with the Lighthawk Wings up could as well.

Juggernaut might be able to at his highest power level. It all depends on how powerful Cytorak's enchantment is compared to the power of the Sword, which basically boils the question down to whether Cytorrak is more powerful than the gods of Farslayer's world.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Lol! Well if I remember correctly from the book (The Complete Book of Swords, a volumized version or Books 1 2 and 3), Mark and his girlfriend fell in love by the sword.

Mark was dying so Aphrodite plunged the Sword through the girl's back and Mark's back as they were spooning each other. After Mark was healed, he realized he was in love with the girl and vice-versa.

Man,it has been way to long since I read that series. Looks like I'll have to pick it up again,and soon.

[JerrBear81]

I could have sworn that someone with strong enough magic(Raven) could repel/nulify it. By the way,which sword was your favorite?

I'm leaning towards Sightblinder. Imagine what you could do with that baby! :D

I figured since it's made of metal, Magneto might have a slight chance. Slight.

All he'd need to do is clone a mentally challenged version of himself and place that clone in the Sword's path.

[JerrBear81]

Man,it has been way to long since I read that series. Looks like I'll have to pick it up again,and soon.

Me too. I lost my old volume (Which is weird cause I wasn't gonna have it anyway since I was going to give it as a Christmas Gift to someone)

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Since it's a magical effect which allows Farslayer to slay anything, one would surmise that someone would enough mystical resistance to magical effects would be able to not be slain by the sword's magic.

Now obviously the gods of Farslayer's world did not have the mystical resilience to resist dying. But I wouldn't rule out the possibility that some uber powerful beings from other settings would have enough resistance to qualify as survivors.

I'd say Thanos could likely qualify.

From what I heard, Tenchi with the Lighthawk Wings up could as well.

Juggernaut might be able to at his highest power level. It all depends on how powerful Cytorak's enchantment is compared to the power of the Sword, which basically boils the question down to whether Cytorrak is more powerful than the gods of Farslayer's world.

I'm honored that you responded to my post.(bows deeply). You also bring up a good point. I always thought that if you could overpower it somehow(magic or something),then you would survive. I also have a hard time seeing it take down the Hulk.

[JerrBear81]

Since it's a magical effect which allows Farslayer to slay anything, one would surmise that someone would enough mystical resistance to magical effects would be able to not be slain by the sword's magic.

Now obviously the gods of Farslayer's world did not have the mystical resilience to resist dying. But I wouldn't rule out the possibility that some uber powerful beings from other settings would have enough resistance to qualify as survivors.

I'd say Thanos could likely qualify.

From what I heard, Tenchi with the Lighthawk Wings up could as well.

Juggernaut might be able to at his highest power level. It all depends on how powerful Cytorak's enchantment is compared to the power of the Sword, which basically boils the question down to whether Cytorrak is more powerful than the gods of Farslayer's world.

Well, originally the Gods of that world only existed because Humans believed in them. However, when they forged the Swords it was around a time when belief in the Gods lessened, making them lose their strength.

So my guess is if they're believers hadn't lessened, the Gods would have survived.

[Metal_Solid]

Magic sword, dude.

So what it going to Nullifier superman powers because it magic. (His other powers) ;) But now knowing that Farslayer was powerful sword,in it self would cause him trouble. But it a matter of opinion anyway right.

Thanks for the explantion Deviant Juvenile. I get the point.

[Michael P]

Just for fun, I think I'll give a rundown of all the Swords. There are 12.

Discussed in detail already were Woundhealer, Shieldbreaker, Doomgiver, and Farslayer. The other 8 are:

Coinspinner. The Sword of Chance. Gives you incredibly good luck, and visits equally and luck on anyone trying to harm you. Tends, however, to vanish at unexpected and inopportune moments.

Wayfinder. The Sword of Wisdom. The ultimate treasure map, it will point you to your heart's desire, whatever that may be. The road can sometimes be twisted and long, however.

Townsaver. The Sword of Fury. Great to have when defending your home or anyone else's. Doesn't protect from injury, though.

Dragonslicer. The Sword of Heroes. Slides through dragon scales and down to the heart.

The Mindsword. The Sword of Glory. Makes you a God in the eyes of men; the most loyal and devoted servants and lovers will leave their benefactors without a second thought. Can be blocked by some of the other swords, however.

Sightblinder: The Sword of Stealth. Much more useful than invisiblity, this sword causes others to see you as something/one they fear or love. As a side effect, enables the bearer to see through deception.

Stonecutter: The Sword of Siege. Does exactly what its name says: cuts through any kind of rock with no resistance at all.

Soulcutter: The Sword of Despair. Creates an area-effect of hopeless, crippling despair when drawn. The weilder is not immune to this effect.

[Michael P]

So what it going to Nullifier superman powers because it magic.
Yes. It's one of his weaknesses.

[Metal_Solid]

Yes. It's one of his weaknesses.

Yes. But that for his Invulnerability probuly more or so could hurt him, but not Nullifier the rest of his powers. It hard to know what magic would affect and what magic won't affect him. Seeing that he stood up to some magic before in the comics. Also depends on what writer writting and their opinion on the magic weakness.

[Deviant Juvenile]

Since it's a magical effect which allows Farslayer to slay anything, one would surmise that someone would enough mystical resistance to magical effects would be able to not be slain by the sword's magic.

Now obviously the gods of Farslayer's world did not have the mystical resilience to resist dying. But I wouldn't rule out the possibility that some uber powerful beings from other settings would have enough resistance to qualify as survivors.

I'd say Thanos could likely qualify.

From what I heard, Tenchi with the Lighthawk Wings up could as well.

Juggernaut might be able to at his highest power level. It all depends on how powerful Cytorak's enchantment is compared to the power of the Sword, which basically boils the question down to whether Cytorrak is more powerful than the gods of Farslayer's world.

As I said, the Twelve Swords are plot devices. Cool ones, but still plot devices. They each serve a single purpose, and my understanding is that nothing will prevent them from fulfilling that purpose.

From what I remember, and have been researching, Farslayer would do anything it needed to do to kill it's target. For demons, whose soul was actually kept elsewhere in phylacteries, Farslayer would go after the phylactery, not the demon's body. It cannot be outrun, it cannot be dodged, and it can't be shielded against, as it will phase through matter and only become solid when it's job is done, I.E. it is embedded in the victim.

Like I said before, the only thing in the world that will actually stop Farslayer is Shieldbreaker. I was incorrect in saying Woundhealer would stop Farslayer. Woundhealer when imbedded in the heart of the victim before Farslayer arrives will allow the victim to survive, if Farslayer is removed before Woundhealer.

As for magic resistance affecting Farslayer or any of the other Swords, it was never stated or even implied that the Swords could be affected by anything but another Sword.

Likely, innate mystical strength was stated at one point to cause Shieldbreaker to consider demons armed at all times. A strong magic component to your being may hinder you instead of help you.

[The Watcher]

As I said, the Twelve Swords are plot devices. Cool ones, but still plot devices. They each serve a single purpose, and my understanding is that nothing will prevent them from fulfilling that purpose.Yes, but even though they're plot devices on their own world does not mean they have an infinite limit. There are beings and things from other settings whose power and/or resiliency would dwarf anything from their world. People and things which they would not be able to affect.

To use an extreme example, I doubt Farslayer would be capable of slaying The Presence or The Living Tribunal. Those beings have such potency that Farslayer's power would be nothing to them.

Now the crux of the matter is to figure out what Farslayer's upper limit might be, by looking at its past record and comparing characters to the most powerful beings it has slain.


From what I remember, and have been researching, Farslayer would do anything it needed to do to kill it's target. For demons, whose soul was actually kept elsewhere in phylacteries, Farslayer would go after the phylactery, not the demon's body. It cannot be outrun, it cannot be dodged, and it can't be shielded against, as it will phase through matter and only become solid when it's job is done, I.E. it is embedded in the victim.But in other settings there may be ways to counter this effect. For example, shields specifically created to prevent phasing.


Like I said before, the only thing in the world that will actually stop Farslayer is Shieldbreaker. I was incorrect in saying Woundhealer would stop Farslayer. Woundhealer when imbedded in the heart of the victim before Farslayer arrives will allow the victim to survive, if Farslayer is removed before Woundhealer.Thing is though, we're not limiting this to Farslayer's world. I'd say there are a lot more things around the Omniverse which could render Farslayer inert. The Ultimate Nullifier. The Infinity Gauntlet. The Edge of Light And Darkness.

Hmmm, it's possible even a time machine could confound Farslayer. If one temporally relocated it to the far future after its intended target is already dead then it probably wouldn't be able to go back in time to get him. Unless of course it has exhibited time travel capability (haven't read the books so all I know is second hand knowledge) then this may be a viable strategy against it.


As for magic resistance affecting Farslayer or any of the other Swords, it was never stated or even implied that the Swords could be affected by anything but another Sword.

Likely, innate mystical strength was stated at one point to cause Shieldbreaker to consider demons armed at all times. A strong magic component to your being may hinder you instead of help you.Well, Slays Anything capability is a magical effect so it was logical to assume that something capable of resisting magic as powerful as that effect would be able to resist it and not be slain (assuming that they could also shrug off the fact the physical fact that a blade has stabbed them as well).

[Deviant Juvenile]

Yes, but even though they're plot devices on their own world does not mean they have an infinite limit. There are beings and things from other settings whose power and/or resiliency would dwarf anything from their world. People and things which they would not be able to affect.

To use an extreme example, I doubt Farslayer would be capable of slaying The Presence or The Living Tribunal. Those beings have such potency that Farslayer's power would be nothing to them.

Now the crux of the matter is to figure out what Farslayer's upper limit might be, by looking at its past record and comparing characters to the most powerful beings it has slain.

I agree that Farslayer could not slay The Presence or The Living Tribunal. I also do doubt that Farslayer could affect anything who does not have a physical form. It also will not affect anything that is not considered to be living(there were no undead in Saberhagen's story).

At one point, Farslayer was used to kill a god. I cannot remember which one. So, this says to me that Farslayer could kill Thor, or anyone below his power level. It might harm beings above his level, as well.


But in other settings there may be ways to counter this effect. For example, shields specifically created to prevent phasing.

In the stories, Farslayer didn't neccesarily travel in a straight line. If you moved, it followed. Since there wasn't a magic, device, or material that could stop Farslayer in the story, I would assume that Farslayer would simply go around the unphasable obstruction.


Thing is though, we're not limiting this to Farslayer's world. I'd say there are a lot more things around the Omniverse which could render Farslayer inert. The Ultimate Nullifier. The Infinity Gauntlet. The Edge of Light And Darkness.

I'm sure they could. Farslayer's world isn't as power rich as the MU or DCU.


Hmmm, it's possible even a time machine could confound Farslayer. If one temporally relocated it to the far future after its intended target is already dead then it probably wouldn't be able to go back in time to get him. Unless of course it has exhibited time travel capability (haven't read the books so all I know is second hand knowledge) then this may be a viable strategy against it.

Once again, I'm not sure Farslayer could be targeted once it had been cast. It could be, that if the time travel works, Farslayer will appear in the future... then race after whomever is of closest kin to it's original target.


Well, Slays Anything capability is a magical effect so it was logical to assume that something capable of resisting magic as powerful as that effect would be able to resist it and not be slain (assuming that they could also shrug off the fact the physical fact that a blade has stabbed them as well).

True, although you make a good point about the physical aspect. Some beings that might be able to resist the killing effect of the magic might not survive the sword through the heart part of it.

But, I stand by my comment that nobody in that list could survive Farslayer coming for them. I'll try to break it down as to why for each...

Jean Grey - She couldn't stop Farslayer. She might be able to telekinetically hold it still as Phoenix, but she'd eventually tire, then Farslayer would kill her. Jean Grey, before Phoenix, wouldn't stand a chance. She might pull a Phoenix and rise from the ashes though. :)

Superman - As pointed out before, he has a weakness to magic.

Thanos(able to die version) - To be honest, I'm not familiar with Thanos. Watcher pointed out that Thanos is a strongly magical being. Could he survive a sword through the heart?

Silver Surfer - The Surfer might lead Farslayer on a merry chase around the cosmos, but it'd catch him eventually.

Juggernaught(current version) - The current version is far weaker than the first version. He dies.

Tenchi Masaki(LHW up) - My understanding of the Light Hawk Wings is that they reduce any attack they intercept to zero damage. I think Farslayer would be able to either phase through them, or go around them.

Dr.Doom - His armor is normal matter. It's been said that normal matter won't stop Farslayer.

Magneto - Same as Jean. He might be able to hold it, but he'll tire eventually. Farslayer won't.

Night Crawler - Whereas Nightcrawler could keep bamfing around ro delay Farslayer, he couldn't take it with him into his dimension. Mortal magic cannot affect the swords, and mutant powers are mortal magic.

Flash - He's faster than Farslayer, but he'll tire out eventually. Farslayer is patient and determined once unleashed.

Green Lantern(sheild up) - Green Latern rings run out of power eventually. Farslayer doesn't.

Raven(sheild up) - Not familiar with Raven.

[Michael P]

Yes. But that for his Invulnerability probuly more or so could hurt him, but not Nullifier the rest of his powers.
Well, of his powers, his invulnerability is the only one that might be capable of protecting him. Heat vision won't work, because the Swords are by nature indestructible (except by Shieldbreaker, or in Shieldbreaker's case, Woundhealer). Holding it back with his strength would be futile, because the Sword is unrelenting. If he tries to fly away, the Sword will follow. If necessary, it will teleport to reach him. His invulnerability is his only hope, and since the Sword is magically designed to get through any personal defense the victim might have, it's really no hope at all.

[JerrBear81]

Vulcan used Farslayer to kill Wars (Ares) the God of War.

[Metal_Solid]

Well, of his powers, his invulnerability is the only one that might be capable of protecting him. Heat vision won't work, because the Swords are by nature indestructible (except by Shieldbreaker, or in Shieldbreaker's case, Woundhealer). Holding it back with his strength would be futile, because the Sword is unrelenting. If he tries to fly away, the Sword will follow. If necessary, it will teleport to reach him. His invulnerability is his only hope, and since the Sword is magically designed to get through any personal defense the victim might have, it's really no hope at all.


To you it might not be chance. But to me there is a chance. ;)

Does anybody got a web site link that got infomation on the swords?

[Michael P]

There are several; I needed a refresher on them to make my post last night, and found plenty by googlin "Saberhagen swords."

[MKTerra]

Like I said before, the only thing in the world that will actually stop Farslayer is Shieldbreaker. I was incorrect in saying Woundhealer would stop Farslayer. Woundhealer when imbedded in the heart of the victim before Farslayer arrives will allow the victim to survive, if Farslayer is removed before Woundhealer.Not quite right, IIRC. I happened to have read the last(?) book in the series a long time ago, and the lady saved her husband by driving Woundhealer into his heart right after Farslayer hit him.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Not quite right, IIRC. I happened to have read the last(?) book in the series a long time ago, and the lady saved her husband by driving Woundhealer into his heart right after Farslayer hit him.


Yep. Your right.

Anyone else?

[Ghost]

So, what does Shieldbreaker and Doomgiver do?

Just a thought: could Wishbringer (http://www.furinkan.com/characters/items/wishbringer.html) resist/repell/destroy Farslayer if it's wielder wished for it in time?

[JerrBear81]

So, what does Shieldbreaker and Doomgiver do?

Just a thought: could Wishbringer (http://www.furinkan.com/characters/items/wishbringer.html) resist/repell/destroy Farslayer if it's wielder wished for it in time?

Shieldbreaker breaks any weapon used against the weilder of Shieldbreaker, as long as that weapon is meant to harm.

Doomgiver is the Sword of Justice, I think. It turns the tables on people.

[Farealmer]

*MASSIVE THREAD NECROMANCY*



Thanos(able to die version) - To be honest, I'm not familiar with Thanos. Watcher pointed out that Thanos is a strongly magical being. Could he survive a sword through the heart?

Silver Surfer - The Surfer might lead Farslayer on a merry chase around the cosmos, but it'd catch him eventually.

Tenchi Masaki(LHW up) - My understanding of the Light Hawk Wings is that they reduce any attack they intercept to zero damage. I think Farslayer would be able to either phase through them, or go around them.

Dr.Doom - His armor is normal matter. It's been said that normal matter won't stop Farslayer.

Green Lantern(sheild up) - Green Latern rings run out of power eventually. Farslayer doesn't.
I want feats for these gods it killed to put them on the level of anyone you've mentioned here. Especially on the Level of GODTenchi. Otherwise this is some uberwank.

[Fallman]

How exactly does Farslayer kill people? To be exact, does it (A) kill people by being thrust into their heart, or does it (B) kill people by magic death stuff, with stabbing the heart being an incidental effect.

If (A), then anyone that can survive being stabbed in the heart can just pull it out and keep going. Incidently, Superman has survived having his heart removed by Empereor Joker and Supergirl survived being impaled on a huge spike of artifical kryptonite, though they were in somewhat more favorable than usual circumstances. For healing, I mean.

If (B), then the list of survivors goes to people with more power than anyone in Farslayer's setting displayed. By the way, Tenchi's LHWs would destroy Farslayer if someone tried to use it on him.

[T51R]

Kenshiro. Nil-space Grasp sends Farslayer back to its sender. :D