Spoiler-iffic Question About the Latest New X-Men Issue

[The_15th_Sven]

Ok, at the end of New X-Men: Academy X, we see Josh lying under a sheet in a Hospital bed and David saying he has cured Cancer and Aids but has killed Josh in the process. My question to you is: Did he really die?

I say no. It maybe a dream but I do not feel that the creators would kill the person that the book focuses on the most, but there are some other things too.

Jay's wings seem to dissapear on the second to last page, botom pannel.
David says he extracted something from Josh's body to produce the cure. What could he take out that would alow him to make a cure? Blood maybe?
Nori looked alittle too happy after her reaction to him leving a few pages earlier.
I may verywell just be going into denial. :D


Tell me what you think.

[Brian Cronin]

A mistake that he almost instantly PMed me to correct...so no hard feelings! :)

-Brian

[jam37wcc]

I loved this issue and I hope Josh is dead because it just adds so much to the story that he is actually dead. I thought that we might see David turn up in like ten(maybe 20) issues as a bad guy, not have the whole thing in one issue. Of course he isn't the traditional bad guy because he is trying to help people.

Although thinking about it Emma or Dani could be showing David what could possibly happen if he didn't have the mental blocks. I think that this could be the case because it did go pretty fast from the mental blocks being taken out to the cure for cancer and aids.

And while you are in denial about Josh being dead I am hoping that David isn't "evil."

[HellFrost]

I loved this issue and I hope Josh is dead because it just adds so much to the story that he is actually dead. I thought that we might see David turn up in like ten(maybe 20) issues as a bad guy, not have the whole thing in one issue. Of course he isn't the traditional bad guy because he is trying to help people.

Although thinking about it Emma or Dani could be showing David what could possibly happen if he didn't have the mental blocks. I think that this could be the case because it did go pretty fast from the mental blocks being taken out to the cure for cancer and aids.

And while you are in denial about Josh being dead I am hoping that David isn't "evil."
I MUST SAY SIR THAT I THINK YOU ARE A GENIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is a very good hypothesis.

[mattbib]

Wow...even having been spoiled I didn't see that ending coming! Good plot.

On the other hand, I really was disappointed with most of the interior art this issue. The ultra-cartoon style just didn't work for me, nor was it even consistent. Despite my dislike for Medina's style, though, it was at least good storytelling.

[Beast]

I agree. I have a feeling that this is a 'mental woogie' caused by Dani and Emma working together. Showing David the dangers of not leaving his mental circuit breakers in place. And not earning the knowledge that he's gaining. It's a great idea and story so far, but is fairly obvious in my honest opinion. :)

[MrBiggs7]

Its a dream or something. I mean even in the comic preview it says, "What if Prodigy didn't forget all he learned ...blah blah blah..."

[The_15th_Sven]

I thought of something else: didn't the issue just seem a little too sureal? Especally durring the Field day pages. It probably is a dream.

[hoopoe]

I thought of something else: didn't the issue just seem a little too sureal? Especally durring the Field day pages. It probably is a dream.


It did seem surreal. The odd part for me to grasp was the passage of time - I believe 5 months passed from the beginning of the issue thru the end. I feel like they're may have been some interesting stories that may have happened at the school during that time, but apparently not.

Does that mean they've mourned they're professor that was killed by Wolverine already? How did they deal with the events that happened in the Danger Room in Astonishing?

This issue is an example of how I wish if they're going to have so many X-Books, they'd be a bit more cohesive.

The art was a little too Loony Toons for me, too.

And no, Josh isn't dead.

[MrBiggs7]

but if they were all cohesive, wolverine wouldn't be able to be featured in every book!

[Titan Slade]

Wow...even having been spoiled I didn't see that ending coming! Good plot.

On the other hand, I really was disappointed with most of the interior art this issue. The ultra-cartoon style just didn't work for me, nor was it even consistent. Despite my dislike for Medina's style, though, it was at least good storytelling.

Wholy sh!+, PACO MEDINA is the best artist to ever draw this book. He is the closest thing that Marvel has to Joe Madureria at the moment, and should have a regular gig on a Marvel title. How about a new X-Force series by Millar and Medina :D .

[The_15th_Sven]

It did seem surreal. The odd part for me to grasp was the passage of time - I believe 5 months passed from the beginning of the issue thru the end. I feel like they're may have been some interesting stories that may have happened at the school during that time, but apparently not.

Does that mean they've mourned they're professor that was killed by Wolverine already? How did they deal with the events that happened in the Danger Room in Astonishing?

This issue is an example of how I wish if they're going to have so many X-Books, they'd be a bit more cohesive.

The art was a little too Loony Toons for me, too.

And no, Josh isn't dead.
Speaking of the danger room in astonishing, Jay is in that scean but is the only one i can find from the new mutants

[The Fury]

Good issue, witha very strong ending, the whole book seemed weird while I was reading it. And the end came out of nowhere.

But to say whether Josh is dead or not, I don't know. I did kind of come out of now where, the issue moved so quickly, last time we knew, the New Mutants were 1-0 to everyone, next thing we know the contest is over.

[Ryan K]

So are we just gonna use this as the discussion thread? Works for me.

Decent issue. I thought about half way through that it was pretty obvious that this was some kind of what if tale. Whether a dream or a simulation run by something I don't know.

The art was OK except for the truly distracting bulbous noses that every character got. And Wolverine's gigantic feet.

More than anything this books needs a consistent artistic presence to define the book. How many has the book gone through now? It's really hard for the book to establish an identity when it doesn't have a definitive artist (or even a definitive artistic style. VERY frustrating.

[The Fury]

Decent issue. I thought about half way through that it was pretty obvious that this was some kind of what if tale. Whether a dream or a simulation run by something I don't know.

More than anything this books needs a consistent artistic presence to define the book. How many has the book gone through now? It's really hard for the book to establish an identity when it doesn't have a definitive artist (or even a definitive artistic style. VERY frustrating.
That first point...hmm. makes so much sense even though it never occured to me that that is what could happen, I like your thinking. I think I've worked it out already.


And yes without a doubt this book needs a regular artist, no 2 issues by one artist and then 2 by another. Uncanny is like that at the moment, but I like all the art in that, Ryan's art was top notch and if he could keep the issues comming and be regular and on time, it would help the book along.

[Ryan K]

And yes without a doubt this book needs a regular artist, no 2 issues by one artist and then 2 by another. Uncanny is like that at the moment, but I like all the art in that, Ryan's art was top notch and if he could keep the issues comming and be regular and on time, it would help the book along.

The thing with Uncanny too, is that we know those characters. I think it hurts the book less because we know what Storm, Wolverine, Bishop, Nightcrawler, etc. look like. It's been hard to establish what Prodigy and Hellion and Icarus look like for me, because there have been so many different artists.

[The Fury]

The thing with Uncanny too, is that we know those characters. I think it hurts the book less because we know what Storm, Wolverine, Bishop, Nightcrawler, etc. look like. It's been hard to establish what Prodigy and Hellion and Icarus look like for me, because there have been so many different artists.
Indeed, I did find it weird that not were we 3 issues into the series and the artist changed (can't remember who drew issue 3 and 4 but I did not liek the art). Many books are able to keep the same artists for a long time, except many of the Xmen books, this one being one of the worst, we've had now 5 artists in 10 issues.

[Fede]

josh might not be dead.
if issue #12 stars laurie and her pheromones, its because of something, and those are josh and rahne

[fishtaco]

Josh aint dead, and I agree with Beast on this. The bulk of this issue probably takes place in a few seconds. Dani is probably showing him what would happen if he had the mental block removed. What she is doing is kind of a de ja vu or however it is spelled. Dani showed Kevin his worst fear: killing Laurie. Dani is now showing David his worst fear: killing Josh. Well, not exactly killing him directly. The whole David being a villain is terrible. That would be truly terrible.

[MrBiggs7]

If he was a villain he wouldnt be so easily killed in The End. Speaking of which, I am dead set on thinking that its all a dream or something to that extent, but Josh Foley hasn't shown up at all in the end books. *cue dramatic music* duh duh duhhhhhhhhh

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Great Issue. I kinda thought It was a mental dream of some kind as well. Because It all flashed by so quickly. I could see David as this villain who believes that he's doing right but Is sadly gone.


If they keep this as a fear of David's It may make me like the charactor more. Something also to talk about...Kevin wierdly Is In this too. So eithor Its a mental dream and David see's him as well and It ties Into Josh dying or.....could It be real ? Hmmm.....