X3 merged, one-stop speculation and spoilers thread

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

thats IF the rumors are true about halle not returning


i think they should go for a young version of iman,or beverly johnson...................face it people iman IS storm,our reality's storm at that,the only thing different is the eye color,and white hair..

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

people has been saying this sense the first x-men movie,i think if they could find some one who looked like michael michelle but wit a darker skin tone that person would be perfect.

[Tazer]

Yo.

never considered Iman, but I thought Angela Basset was *perfect* for the role.

problem was they wanted young & Hollywood -esque, so we got Halle.




Tazer

[Siythe]

If she's not doing the part why bother putting Storm in at all?

[Deathstroke]

If they are going to keep her involvement in the story the same level as the first two films, perhaps they should consider dropping the character completely.

Otherwise, I thought I had been reading online that Angela Bassett was one of the leading names under consideration.

I bet Gabrielle Union would be great as Storm, but she's younger than Halle Berry, so I don't think that will happen.

[Phil Clark]

Iman. Hands down. So what if she is older than the rest of the cast. Let's face it, she IS storm.

[Captain Trips]

I agree that she doesn't even need to be in the film. Her absence could easily be explained. There are a lot of characters as it is, plus there will be one or two new mutants showing up, so why bother with a character who probably won't be central to the plot anyway.

[HomerJay]

I agree that she doesn't even need to be in the film. Her absence could easily be explained. There are a lot of characters as it is, plus there will be one or two new mutants showing up, so why bother with a character who probably won't be central to the plot anyway.

I agree.
I'm not sure too many people would really complain if Storm was absent. Fill her slot with Collossus or Beast (sorry, I'm not a Gambit fan).

If you really need to have her in there, I do agree that Iman is the best choice.

[Leslie Lee III]

Halle or no one.

[Grant]

Gina Torres from Firefly

[Phil Clark]

Gina Torres is an incredible woman, and a fine actress, but she is too buff to play Storm. Storm is meant to be frailer than Gina.

[Stagier]

so almost No ONE is coming back for x3? by no one i mean james and famke, who it was supposed to be about, this sucks.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

If they have any ounce of sense they will either wait, or just do a movie without the two of them, to return with the Phoenix if they make a fourth...

[artemisboy]

face it people iman IS storm,our reality's storm at that,the only thing different is the eye color,and white hair..

I've been saying this since the very beginning. I don't really know why people are so hesitant to not go with the obvious. I remember Bryan Singer initially being against Patrick Stewart as Prof X because he was too "obvious". Obvious? THAT is a reason to not go with a specific actor? I say, Iman all the way!!! :D

- Peter

[Leslie Lee III]

I don't know how obvious Iman is. She's 50 and hasn't acted in 8 years.

[Indy24LA]

I'll say Sanaa Lathan from Out of Time and AvP.

[kalorama]

I was just going to bring up the age issue regarding Iman. And the fact that she's not really an actress.

If Berry isn't coming back (and there's some speculation here (http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=4769) regarding the issue of who is and isn't returning) I think the only "obvious" choice is the woman to whom I thought the part should have gone from the very beginning: Thandie Newton.

[Davideaux]

Garcelle Beauvais

She's attractive and a decent actress. She can pull off the regal look too, I believe.

[Vegetarian Goat]

I'd seriously rather they just NOT make a movie if the whole cast isn't coming back.

Or at least wait. The way these two studios are fighting over the cast and crew...

it's very childish.

And a movie with a whole new cast would just be the epitome of making movies for money instead of entertainment.

[sir_snikt'alot]

whats the point of having the other x-men,its pretty much the wolverine show anyway,the last two movies showed that everyone else are just bit part fillers for when wolverine isnt around,storm was bland,cyclops was hardly ever shown even though hes team leader,cyc and jeans relationship was never pushed enough and they didnt have enough scenes together,rogue and iceman where just theyre for logan to protect,and xavier is always taken out of action.and as for nightcrawler he was only introduced to be a new 'cool character'.

[anthony!]

Just to add somethign slightly unrelated...

James Marsden looks not to return now to X3, do to his involvement in the Superman movie. Also, they are keeping Shawn Ashmore from playing Jimmy Olsen and holding him to his contractual obligation to appear in X3.

20th Century Fox is not taking well anyone who wants to do Superman...I think they are pissed. A Bryan Singer should know better than to cast X3 actors when he knows that Fox will be needing them... this is so retarded.

-A!

[Fede]

well, rebecca said she was coming back, so was ian mackellen and the ones that plays xavier,alan,anna, so was wolverine's...and the feedback characters

so far the one that said she wasnt coming back was halle berry, cause she wanted more screenplay....
she is not that important in the comics, so in my opinion, she can go home
i like her very much, but first and more important, are we, the fans, and making a good film that looks like the comics. singer did. i hope that the new director and writer thinks about it too

[Leslie Lee III]

I think all that cast leaving could be a good thing and force the writers to come up with something new for the next X movie, instead of rehashing the comic stories.

Similar to the new Superman movie. It seems to want to tell a completely new Superman story than one we've seen before, while still respecting the characters.

[Deathstroke]

I don't know how obvious Iman is. She's 50 and hasn't acted in 8 years.

And she's not that great an actress to begin with.

[roguestorm]

i don't know what comics your reading but storm is very important to the x-men. she's been the leader many times and was one of the original x-men. also halle berry said the role of storm hasn't been offered to her yet but she'd jump at the chance to play her "if shes more useful". i reallly hate it when people twist halles words to make her look like some money hungry diva.

[Deathstroke]

I'll say Sanaa Lathan from Out of Time and AvP.


She could be a good fit. Her best performance was in the film "Love and Basketball."

[Will.S]

Here's the link to some of the happenings with X3 http://movies.msn.com/movies/hitlist/2-3-05

The problem right now is Fox trying to fight WB and Singer for Marsden as Cyclops since both will supposedly shoot around the same time but they barely have a script or director so I don't know how the hell X3 is supposed to go down. Fox needs to just settle down and wait until Singer finishes Superman or until an actual director is found. There's no need to rush the X-Men movies since I think we can all agree that we'd rather have a quality movie than a rushed effort with a less consistent cast.

I liked Marsden as Cyclops but the scripts need to focus on his character for him to actually show range. He's had little development on both films and his only ties to it are to Jean. I'm hoping Simon Kinburg can rectify this but so far I hear he's not going to do the whole Phoenix development Singer had in mind which has me worried.

As far as the the returning actos go Ian McKellen should be back even though he seems to have a strong bond with Singer as a director, Patrick should be back, Hugh HAS to and will because he is doing/producing Wolverine the solo movie, Anna, Ashmore, Rebecca Romijin, Alan Cumming and Famke I believe are contracted to do another one also.

Supposedly FOX didn't want Ashmore to play Jimmy which is why he wasn't cast in it.

While I'm actually relieved he's not Jimmy since the dude is pretty much Brandon Routh's age and I like him better as Iceman, he should have had the options if he was able to contractually.

[StoneGold]

Only one person could logically play storm. George Takei.

[artemisboy]

And she's not that great an actress to begin with.

Good thing about casting Iman though, if her part is as big as Halle's then it really won't matter all that much. She'd just be wall-dressing. And Iman may be 50, but she doesn't look it. She's still quite beautiful.

- Peter

[pirulaso]

that girk from how stella got her groove back

[The Fury]

Screw them, re-cast.

Except Storm, no offense but the movie Storm is crap, she's moody and not like the normal Storm at all.

[Mia]

Grace Jones anyone? :evilsmile

Angela Bassette would be cool because she's regal and I agree with Gina Torres.

Please no one like Beyonce, Tyra Banks, Vanessa Williams etc, they all look way too much like Barbie. Storm should be more earthy..... and African. I like Halle but she just never seemed right in the part.

[kalorama]

I think all that cast leaving could be a good thing and force the writers to come up with something new for the next X movie, instead of rehashing the comic stories.

Similar to the new Superman movie. It seems to want to tell a completely new Superman story than one we've seen before, while still respecting the characters.


I doubt the casting will have naay bearing whatsoever on what the story is. That will be driven by who the director ends up being (and by what direction the producers decide to go in).

[cable guy]

The moment I heard Singer was leaving X-Men to do Superman, I knew this franchise was in trouble.

Half the cast not returning and a new director does not look good.

[dougputhoff]

How about Wanda Sykes?

Now that would be interesting.

[Basara]

she's been the leader many times and was one of the original x-men.

Minor nitpick, Storm wasn't one of the original X-Men. She and Cyclops both need bigger roles in the movies though. These are the freaking field leaders of the X-Men after all.

[Will.S]

Screw them, re-cast.

Except Storm, no offense but the movie Storm is crap, she's moody and not like the normal Storm at all.
I wouldn't be crying myself to sleep over a Cyclops re-cast but I'd like for them to remain consistent with actors. I guess it's always hard to maintain when they get offered bigger gigs and such. If they do recast Cyclops hopefully it will be an older looking dude that can look better next to Famke, she's like pushing her 40's.

Movie Storm wasn't.....impressive by any degree though I agree. My pick for a re-cast is still Nona Gaye (I can see Smarty Jones kicking my ass for this) as she seemed to look the part in the Matrix movies as well my faith in her being able to act better than Berry in that character.

[jeangreydp]

The moment I heard Singer was leaving X-Men to do Superman, I knew this franchise was in trouble.

Half the cast not returning and a new director does not look good.

No kidding. This is so depressing. I have to say Superman was my first comic book love, but I don't want anymore movies about him. I don't think anyone (even Singer) will do it right.

He should stick to X-men. If they re-cast I think it will be a big mistake. I don't think I'd see it.

[VCreed32]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Angela Basset.









However... she may too old now. :(

[marshal99]

It will probably end up being Beyonce in the role of Storm ...

[blackdragon6]

well there is another actress that camed close to storm looks is a verry verry obscure actress by the name of varshini soobiah she had a role in master-'ps movie da last don :p

[blackdragon6]

Good thing about casting Iman though, if her part is as big as Halle's then it really won't matter all that much. She'd just be wall-dressing. And Iman may be 50, but she doesn't look it. She's still quite beautiful.

- Peter
exactly.............

[Ontir]

I'd still love to see Iman in the part. She'd be fantastic. Other than her, there's always Beyonce, who I think could handle the part, but I'd just as soon go for some unknown. Someone who's actually African. I'd also give her long, thin (like 1/16"), white, braids to more closely resemble the illustrated character.

In the case of Cyclops, I think I'd go a bit older, to better compliment Famke Jansen. I think maybe Dermot Mulroney would be good.

[Steve]

After watching Undiscovered Country, Iman convinced me she was Storm.

[Deathstroke]

that girk from how stella got her groove back

Which one?

Angela Bassett was in it.

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

After watching Undiscovered Country, Iman convinced me she was Storm.
yep...............

[Jared]

To rehash something someone posted about this before the Boards were wiped out...

They could probably get Lisa Bonet for like 20 bucks.

[Athena Bast]

IMAN hands down.

[monkeysweat]

Sophie Okonedo... nuff said.

[blackdragon6]

IMAN hands down.
i was saying this back when i was in middlle school.............like 95 or 96-ish

[blackdragon6]

I thought the part should have gone from the very beginning: Thandie Newton.2 words
HELL-NAW!

[blackdragon6]

whats the point of having the other x-men,its pretty much the wolverine show anyway,the last two movies showed that everyone else are just bit part fillers for when wolverine isnt around,storm was bland,cyclops was hardly ever shown even though hes team leader,cyc and jeans relationship was never pushed enough and they didnt have enough scenes together,rogue and iceman where just theyre for logan to protect,and xavier is always taken out of action.and as for nightcrawler he was only introduced to be a new 'cool character'.thats one of my main nitpiks about the x movies

[Fede]

i don't know what comics your reading but storm is very important to the x-men. she's been the leader many times and was one of the original x-men. also halle berry said the role of storm hasn't been offered to her yet but she'd jump at the chance to play her "if shes more useful". i reallly hate it when people twist halles words to make her look like some money hungry diva.


i'm sorry if i bothered you with what i said

but, in my opinion, she's been given in the film the same role and importance as in the comics. she said many times (in words of singer) that she wanted more screenplay, thats the word, not "useful". its not that shes a "money hungry diva", is that she won an oscar and she might think that she's more important than the rest of the cast. simple

[The Fury]

I wouldn't be crying myself to sleep over a Cyclops re-cast but I'd like for them to remain consistent with actors. I guess it's always hard to maintain when they get offered bigger gigs and such. If they do recast Cyclops hopefully it will be an older looking dude that can look better next to Famke, she's like pushing her 40's.

Movie Storm wasn't.....impressive by any degree though I agree. My pick for a re-cast is still Nona Gaye (I can see Smarty Jones kicking my ass for this) as she seemed to look the part in the Matrix movies as well my faith in her being able to act better than Berry in that character.
Bigger gigs? Now going by the facts, where X-men made just under $300million at the world wide box office and numerous extra millions from DVD rental and sales, X-men 2, made ven more, at just over $400million world wide and even more in DVD rental and sales. Thats the 143rd and 66th top grosing films ever, repesctfully. What would truely be a bigger gig? These actors need to get over themselves. Hugh Jackman does look like he's coming back, and he's bigger than all of them, even staring in Helsing, he's still comming back.


And my problem with Storm ws not the acting (well it was partly, Berry did a crap job of it) but the character in general was changed, she not the powerful leader type like in the comics, she was week, moody and a racist.Having this character around doesn't do anyone any good.

[Crimson]

Bigger gigs? Now going by the facts, where X-men made just under $300million at the world wide box office and numerous extra millions from DVD rental and sales, X-men 2, made ven more, at just over $400million world wide and even more in DVD rental and sales. Thats the 143rd and 66th top grosing films ever, repesctfully. What would truely be a bigger gig? These actors need to get over themselves. Hugh Jackman does look like he's coming back, and he's bigger than all of them, even staring in Helsing, he's still comming back.


And my problem with Storm ws not the acting (well it was partly, Berry did a crap job of it) but the character in general was changed, she not the powerful leader type like in the comics, she was week, moody and a racist.Having this character around doesn't do anyone any good.

When was she racist? I don't remember her saying "Oi! White boy" or "Chinese person... whats with the eyes?"

[The Fury]

When was she racist? I don't remember her saying "Oi! White boy" or "Chinese person... whats with the eyes?"
Humans.

She really didn't like humans, well that was the thing I got from her she was talking to Nightcrawler.

[Fede]

she was afraid of them

[The Fury]

she was afraid of them
Your point being?

Isn't a part of racism is that most people who are racist fear that of which they hate. In the X-men, this characteristic has no place, she fears them yet she's trying to create world where mutants and humans live side by side? Doesn't work.

[MrBiggs7]

Your point being?

Isn't a part of racism is that most people who are racist fear that of which they hate. In the X-men, this characteristic has no place, she fears them yet she's trying to create world where mutants and humans live side by side? Doesn't work.

Sometimes I'm scared of white people. They always look at me funny at stores and stuff. But I'd still like to live in a world where I dont have to fear them.

[AlanOnymous]

"that's right Tom... and I just plain don't like black people" (Family Guy Newscasters)

[marvelboy2004]

They should bring Halle back just for her gurning expertise. Freeze on her face in the scene where the rockets are about to hit the blackbird or on the bit where jean is holding back the water. She seems to have forgotten that she is not in some kind of comedy mime, but an action movie. That is some quality face pulling...

[Morrolan]

From what i have read. . . Only James Marsden and Halle Berry arent returning. . . . .

[Fede]

Your point being?


i dont understand the meaning of that. "they scare me" is what she says in the movie to nightcrawler. i have no opinion of it

[The Fury]

i dont understand the meaning of that. "they scare me" is what she says in the movie to nightcrawler. i have no opinion of it
There is a fine line between fear and hate. Nightcrawler even states that she is a very angry person, if she was scared she wouldn't be that angry, just fearful. I took it as the fact she hated humans, for what ever reason, that's why she's angry.

but that is the way I viewed that scene, many people would have seen it ina different way, I saw it as she hated humans for hating her.

[crystalline green]

There is a fine line between fear and hate. Nightcrawler even states that she is a very angry person, if she was scared she wouldn't be that angry, just fearful. I took it as the fact she hated humans, for what ever reason, that's why she's angry.

but that is the way I viewed that scene, many people would have seen it ina different way, I saw it as she hated humans for hating her.


I think calling the movie version Storm "racist" because she is afraid of humans (or even angry at them) is going overboard. Mystique and Magneto showed the most enmity for humans. Storm's feelings seemed to have more to do with the fear of pursecution by them. There was no hint that she thought of them as lesser beings.

[Ontir]

I'd be happy with either Lisa Bonet, or Thandie Newton. I love Sophie Okonado, but I just can't see her as Storm. IIRC, Angela Bassett turned down the roll of Storm for the first film.

Any thoughts on Cyke?

[Leslie Lee III]

Cyclops SLAIN
Storm APPREHENDED
Iceman SLAIN

[Charagon]

How can James Marsden not come back. X3 could finally be the movie where he gets to do something!

[anthony!]

How can James Marsden not come back. X3 could finally be the movie where he gets to do something!

Exactly. Whats so tragic about this is that his part in Superman is pretty miniscule.

Fox are being real dicks about this.

The Wolverine/Cyclops dynamic was sure to play a big role in X3, and now Fox is $crewing it up.

-A!

[gambitsgurl]

I think calling the movie version Storm "racist" because she is afraid of humans (or even angry at them) is going overboard. Mystique and Magneto showed the most enmity for humans. Storm's feelings seemed to have more to do with the fear of pursecution by them. There was no hint that she thought of them as lesser beings.
Often times we are prejudice against the things we are afraid of. Now her degree of prejudice is pretty mild compared to that of Magneto and Mystique, but, that still does not mean she isn't prejudice against "non-mutants." If a person holds negative feelings to an entire group of people based on the actions or the impression they received of a few people who would be classified in that group;then they are prejudice. A person's actions do not make them prejudice, their feelings do.
Also, I could do with out Halle Berry as Storm. It is not that I dislike Halle Berry. I think she was inappropriate for the role.
Also they are in talks of adding Gambit and Beast. Does anybody know how that is coming along?
I also heard Kelly Hu has a contract for future X-Men movies.

[Ontir]

Who are Slain and Apprehended?

[pennywisdom]

Who are Slain and Apprehended?
I placed my Oscar bets on those two.

Seriously, they either need to work on character development or get rid of Storm entirely. I hate the fact that they threw a bunch of mutants in there, but they really aren't writing for them. I never liked Marsden as Cyclops... replace him just like the overrated Halle. Or else take them out.... they're just scenery, and I hate underwritten characters just standing around.

[roguestorm]

the problem with storm is not halle as the star. but more the poor characterisation that is movie storm. in the movies the only thing she is used for is to advance other characters ex=nightcrawler. i don't blame halle for wanting more screen time because her character is in desprete need of it. had she not demanded for that scene with nightcrawler we would have had typical wallpaper storm. atleast in x2 wallpaper storm has some colour added to her.

[Indigo Al]

They should keep Storm. She's an icon of the X-Men and one of precious few black superheroes.

Laila Ali?

[kalorama]

They should keep Storm. She's an icon of the X-Men and one of precious few black superheroes.

Laila Ali?


She can't act, but she should bring some much needed verisimilitude to Storm's boxing sequences.

[Ecoman]

Scrap Storm.
Then, insert Kate Beckinsale as Psylocke.
Need I say more?

[Predator]

I think that Berry and Marsden are replaceable. Who knows, maybe better actors will be found for the roles. They NEED Jannesen! If the movie will focus on Phoenix, they need her back.

[KenK]

Exactly. Whats so tragic about this is that his part in Superman is pretty miniscule.

Fox are being real dicks about this.

The Wolverine/Cyclops dynamic was sure to play a big role in X3, and now Fox is $crewing it up.

-A!

Why is it Fox's fault?!? How wrong is it for Singer to cast him, knowing Fox wants to film X3 at a certain time? And Marsden, rather than wait to see if Fox hires a new director he could actually see himself working with decides to jump ship, and there's all the likelihood that he'd be getting that extra screentime is rightfully deserves? If he can't be patient, fuck him! I sing the praises of Singer for what he did for building the franchise, but he's playing as much a role in possibly tearing it down as some of you claim Fox is. And all this talk about the movie definitely failing without Singer as the director is pissing me off!! You're honestly going to sit there and tell me no one else can carry on with what he did, or even do something better?

[Steve]

Maybe they should just bring in Grace Jones to play the Mohawk version of Storm. :)

http://www.baric.de/grace/images/gj13.jpg

[Grant]

You know I don't see why they don't just make a Wolverine movie. The character is strong enough to support a movie they have a script being written and Hugh Jackman is committed to the part.

Or better yet not include Storm, Cyclops and Jean in the next movie. It doesn't have to be Dark Phoenix. They can always try for that in X-Men 4 (if they get that far).

They could do something like the Sentinels with Wolverine, Kitty Pryde, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Colossus and Iceman along with some new characters like Beast. Heck maybe the story for X3 is Wolvie training these new X-Men in the field.

Or they could recast. Bond and Batman movies recast all the time. Harry Potter just replaced Dumbledore (fairly successfully if you ask me). Spider-man will probably recast after the third or fourth movie. I wasn't that attached to James Marsden or Halle Berry in their respective roles.

Whatever. Fox has a lot of options. I'm not going to declare the franchise dead yet. It might come out stronger because of this.

[KenK]

Get Alex Proyas to direct, and Nona Gaye to play Storm, and that'd be a huge step in the right direction!

[jeangreydp]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=8269

Looks like Famke is in for sure! :D

Meanwhile I HATE recasting.

[Grant]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=8269
Meanwhile I HATE recasting.

Sometimes I'm against it, sometime I'm not. But if they have to recast two characters I wasn't that emotionally invested in the first two movies I'm not going pitch fit either.

Personally I say lose Storm and recast Cyclops.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Get Alex Proyas to direct, and Nona Gaye to play Storm, and that'd be a huge step in the right direction!i second that

[Grant]

Film Force (http://filmforce.ign.com/x-men/articles/593/593641p1.html) says Fox is making a decision shortly on who's directing X3. Apparently Zach Snyder (the Dawn of the Dead remake) is on the shortlist of five or six names.

[Smarty Jones]

"Scrap Storm.
Then, insert Kate Beckinsale as Psylocke.
Need I say more?"

Making an X-Men movie without Storm would be like creating an Avengers product without Iron Man, or a JLA team without Wonder Woman -- it doesn't make sense.

In terms of appearances, Storm has been an X-Man longer than any other member -- and that includes Wolverine.

Storm is also one of the most powerful female heroes in the genre and she's also one of the most prominent black characters in the industry.

Halle Berry was not a good choice to play her from the beginning, but it's better to recast the role and get someone else. To replace her with another telepath -- one who is inferior to Jean Grey and Charles Xavier and does not have nearly as much going for her as Storm -- would be silly.

[Nate Grey]

Making an X-Men movie without Storm would be like creating an Avengers product without Iron Man, or a JLA team without Wonder Woman -- it doesn't make sense.

In terms of appearances, Storm has been an X-Man longer than any other member -- and that includes Wolverine.

Storm is also one of the most powerful female heroes in the genre and she's also one of the most prominent black characters in the industry.

Halle Berry was not a good choice to play her from the beginning, but it's better to recast the role and get someone else. To replace her with another telepath -- one who is inferior to Jean Grey and Charles Xavier and does not have nearly as much going for her as Storm -- would be silly.

I gotta agree with this. To have Psylocke in addition to Storm could work, I suppose, but not in place of. I'm pretty sure the producers and whichever director directs it will know this, too.

[Grant]

AICN (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=19635) says Matthew Vaughn director of the upcoming Brit crime movie Layer Cake is directing X-Men 3. Apparently an official annoucement will be made Tuesday. Whether you believe it or not. Hopefully a confirmation will come out this week.

[Sheldon]

Thats interesting....anyone know if layer cake is any good?

[Grant]

Thats interesting....anyone know if layer cake is any good?

It's received good reviews in England. I watched a trailer last nigt and it looked like good (though the use of Duran Duran's "Ordinary World" was kind of cheesy). It stars Daniel Craig who I think is pretty awesome.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

AICN (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=19635) says Matthew Vaughn director of the upcoming Brit crime movie Layer Cake is directing X-Men 3. Apparently an official annoucement will be made Tuesday. Whether you believe it or not. Hopefully a confirmation will come out this week.
the director sure gonna have a huge job ahead of him

[Alex]

Just to add somethign slightly unrelated...

James Marsden looks not to return now to X3, do to his involvement in the Superman movie. Also, they are keeping Shawn Ashmore from playing Jimmy Olsen and holding him to his contractual obligation to appear in X3.

20th Century Fox is not taking well anyone who wants to do Superman...I think they are pissed. A Bryan Singer should know better than to cast X3 actors when he knows that Fox will be needing them... this is so retarded.

-A!
Probably a smart move on ashmores part though.
He had a fairly big role in xmen 2, so he can do xmen 3, where he gets to be an action hero with a main character as a love interest.
Or he can do Superman and be jimmy olsen.

[discostu]

Am I the only one glad that there will be a new cyclops? Hopefully they'll get someone taller than wolverine this time around.

[Alex]

Am I the only one glad that there will be a new cyclops? Hopefully they'll get someone taller than wolverine this time around.
Marsden didn't blow my hair back, but he didn't have a lot of script to work with either.

[Grant]

Am I the only one glad that there will be a new cyclops? Hopefully they'll get someone taller than wolverine this time around.

Wouldn't say glad but I don't mind either. Hopefully Cyclops has a bigger role.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Hopefully Cyclops has a bigger role.this is what i really want for both cyclops and storm

[Grant]

AICN (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=19662) has a report on 3 new X-Men. Beast, Gambit and Angel.

And Angel is apparently going to be a she.

[Predator]

And Angel is apparently going to be a she.

Why?

Am I the only one that is getting a bad feeling about this movie?

[Grant]

Why?

Who knows? Personally don't see it as a big deal. Then again I always hated Angel...

...Archangel on the other hand was badass.

[KenK]

Why?

Am I the only one that is getting a bad feeling about this movie?

I've BEEN having a bad feeling since Singer left. The sad thing is that he clearly laid down some serious groundwork for X3, and then decides he wants to jump ship. There's already a lot of speculation about who's really coming back. Obviously Jackman, since he's got more of a stake in the franchise than any of the other actors. Alan Cummings says he's ready to come back, but now I'm hearing Anna Paquin might be gone! There's still no official word on whether Marsden's coming back or not, given his casting in Superman. Then there's the director. I haven't seen Layer Cake, but I've heard mostly good reviews of it. While I support lesser known filmmakers getting a shot at the big time, I think Fox could have stood to go for someone a little more high-profile and has proven themselves as good visual storytellers. Looking at Alex Proyas's films, I think he would have been perfect. You know he can make you care about the characters, while at the same time, making a film that's visually stunning. The kind of director he is, I feel he would have made X3 a comic book movie, not just a movie based on a comic.

Barring all of that, is the fact that I've yet to see a comic book movie franchise maintain its quality come the third film. Superman III- never had a problem with it as a kid, but I have to admit, the inclusion of Richard Pryor, and the "villain" if the film make it a bit hokey. Don't even get me started on Quest for Peace. Batman Forever. I really don't think I have to explain this one. Blade Trinity- You would think the writer of the first two films would do a better job, at least storywise, but damn if Goyer didn't screw this one up. So Angel being a girl in the new X-Men movie means little in how I feel it'll turn out. I hope it's good, but experience has taught me otherwise.

[Grant]

IGN Film Force (http://filmforce.ign.com/x-men/articles/596/596852p1.html) says AICN is wrong wrong wrong.

Wouldn't be the first time.

[monkeysweat]

Beast is in his transformed state? Another blue mutant?

[Grant]

Beast is in his transformed state? Another blue mutant?

Who knows?

They should make him grey.

[pirulaso]

i hope for normal human beast. wasnt nightcrawler supposed to be furry.
anyway, way back at that last post about storm. i meant stella from stella got her groove back. or hell find someone new and african. plz dont let it be beyonce. i never really care for singer. he focused on wolverine to a fault. the costumes were eh ok. (maybe if they were blue and yellow) i mean that black costume theme would be cool for nightcrawler when he had the priest thing goin on. i liked his priest costume best. anyway i dont think he grasped how huge a battle between mutants could get. i mean look at freedom force (the game). building are destroyed with good reason. lady deathstrike was a bit wierd to me. (i am used to her saying something like WOLVERINE MUST DIE or something to that bit). same with sabretooth. (i was hoping for dialogue with him.) i am kinda excited about new costumes. honestly, switching storm and cyclops isnt that bad because they were so in the background. if it was someone like wolverine or proffesor X than it might be wierd. is magneto eventually gonna turn young? cause i wanna see young magnus with silver hair. i think they dont need to hop on the dark phoenix right away. if they dont have jean then wait till later when she can play it for like movie 4 or something. wasnt pyro supposed to be australian? anyway it was a bit wierd that the brotherhood wasnt at full strength. i want blob and quicksilver and those others

[monkeysweat]

They should make him grey.
Shhh. Are you trying to start riots?

[Grant]

Superherohype (http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=2745) has a quote from Avi Arad about James Marsden's status on the series.

Seems like he's not officially in or out.

[Peter]

Iceman SLAIN

:eek:

:mad:

*pulls out Ultimate Nullifier*

:evilsmile

[blackdragon6]

i really want some solid info but everything seems up in the air.wich is weird sense filming is suppose to start in june or july

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

well rumor has it that juggernaut is gonna be int x3...............so i guess thats something.


BTW i thought filming began in august? either way they don't have much time to get their shit togeather.

[Grant]

well rumor has it that juggernaut is gonna be int x3...............so i guess thats something.


BTW i thought filming began in august? either way they don't have much time to get their shit togeather.

I don't think it's a rumour anymore. Vinnie Jones and Matthew Vaughn both confirmed it in interviews.

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

i'm pretty sure it was true..................i was just saying

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

i would check with IMDB.COM but nothing so far.nothing we don't already know anyway.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

wait heres a interview with mathew vaughn

Out promoting "Layer Cake" in the US, Director Matthew Vaughn spoke with About.Com about his next gig - the third "X-Men" which is currently slated for an August 1st start of shooting in Canada.

At present "We're trying to see if we can get it off the ground at the moment. There's just a hell of a lot. We're meant to be filming in August. We're working on it at the moment. As far as I know, Halle's doing the film. In the script, she's got a lot to do. I've got a lot of experience in dealing with a lot of character in a film, so multi-character movies don't intimidate me at all. I think I know how to get that balance" said Vaughn.

In terms of his plans for the film - "I have plans to put my stamp on it. I thought when I pitched them [Fox] the way I wanted to make the movie, they'd run a mile. But I think they understand. I think the X-Men are pretty much movies of the '90s and I think it's time for them to toughen up a bit. X-Men was pretty good because you saw the flaws and the conflict that they're going through, but I think that conflict needs to be expanded on. I wanted the villains to be less [cartoony]. At the moment, I think a lot of moustache twirling happened in the last films. I want to get rid of that and make the villains really scary and more realistic." He cites "Buffy" creator Joss Whedon's work as an inspiration.

Amongst his is plans to use as little CGI as possible - "I hate CGI. I'm trying to do everything in camera. Listen, there are times you have to use CGI, but I want to do as much in camera as possible". His only real concern is the time factor with the pressure to get it done by next May. He's also only signed on for this film, no further.

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

My concern at this point is time. There is such a short time to make this movie. Less than a year (i.e. they are talking about beginning filming in July/August). I think they talked about the first X-Men film being rushed and that film I think had a longer shooting time. Plus, with all the things they want to do in this movie, I just don't think they can pull it off in less than a year and maintain quality. I would be much happier if they just postponed the release day a few months to do a quality movie

[Grant]

My concern at this point is time. There is such a short time to make this movie. Less than a year (i.e. they are talking about beginning filming in July/August). I think they talked about the first X-Men film being rushed and that film I think had a longer shooting time. Plus, with all the things they want to do in this movie, I just don't think they can pull it off in less than a year and maintain quality. I would be much happier if they just postponed the release day a few months to do a quality movie

It's about the same schedule they had for the second one. They could always change the release date during shooting. Release dates aren't written in stone. I know they are casting the new characters right now (specifically Beast and Angel), rewriting the script and doing the storyboarding. So I imagine is everything is coming together pretty quickly.

-Grant

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

also look how fast they threw togeather war of the worlds.and i'm sure the budget for that movie is astronomicale.but i will say this i am somewhat worried,especially sense they removed colosus from the cast.that might change but............

[Grant]

also look how fast they threw togeather war of the worlds.and i'm sure the budget for that movie is astronomicale.but i will say this i am somewhat worried,especially sense they removed colosus from the cast.that might change but............

I haven't heard anything about Colossus being gone other then his name isn't on the IMDB listing. I know they are looking for a Kitty Pryde right now.

I don't think losing a character or two would be a bad thing when right now there's potential 12 characters on the X-Men team. We'll probably find out the casting situation in July. Like who's playing Beast, Angel and any other bad guys.

[blackdragon6]

i'm gonna take a wait and see aproach...........though vaughn kinda scare me.

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

i'm gonna take a wait and see aproach...........though vaughn kinda scare me.
what bothers me about mathew vaughn is that he doesn't like cgi (wich i uderstand) but if he think he can make a x-men movie with little to no cgi then he is deluding himself.

also no matter who is directing i always felt that the x-men movies was gonna paint themselves into a corner eventually.reason being is because if they keep going for major actors for x-men members that decision might come back and haunt them.mainly because the budget would keep getting astronomical along with the egos.especialy if the actors get popular and don't want to do the movies no more.and to be honest i really don't believe any of the actors think highly of the movie to begin with (i might be wrong).not to say i don't understand the buisness decision on the actors part.but i think the movie itself should come first everything else is secondary.



i do like the casting of kelsey gremmer though.

[Steve]

Vaughn is out (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/01/film.xmen.reut/index.html).

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

aah and the plot thins............

[Grant]

He opted to spend more time with Claudia Schiffer instead of shooting an X-Men movie? Where is that man's priorities?

[blackdragon6]

well this could be for the best.............or the worse

[Grant]

Hopefully they make an annoucement pretty soon. This is prett f***ed up. What I've heard about the story sounds pretty cool (it sounds like a loose adaptation of "Mutant Massacre") and the fact most of the cast is coming back is great.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

i think they should stick with the none american aproach when looking for directors.theres a shit load of famous forign directors who could do the movie justice.

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

Kurt Wimmer should direct he can develope charecters plot AND action.though i think singer did a pretty decent job.

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

Here is what the guys at Xmanfilms.net had to say about this shocking news

"No one expected it to happen, but then it did. At the dawn of June 1, 2005, the X-MEN fans learned that director Matthew Vaughn (who took over the duties from previous filmaker Bryan Singer) had left the project. Outrage and confusion ran across the internet of the news. Why did Vaughn leave the project, when there were only nine weeks until shooting was to begin? Did he leave because of time constraints pressures, or was it because of something else?

20th Century Fox is apparently very saden by the loss of Vaughn, but the indie director of LAYER CAKE opted to leave the film project due to family issues, overseas. Instead of flying back and forth from Los Angeles/ Vancouver to London, Vaughn decided that his family was top priority, above all things. X3 Executive producer, Avi Arad was quoted as saying that Vaughn was "heartbroken" to leave the project. The studio is still moving full-steam ahead for a Summer 2006 release, with filming to begin in a couple of months.

Crazy? Yes, we know. So...now what happens with X3? Once again, the film is left without a director. Will everything change now? Will the film still be made this year? Here are five things the fans need to know:
1). The story will not change: The studio has already marked off on the script idea that was written by Matthew Vaughn, Zak Penn, and Simon Kinberg. Though details of the story are fully unknown, it is said to be a very controversial storyline, that will take the franchise in bold new territory.

2). The cast/ characters will not change: Most of the major actors from the previous two films are signed for X3, so they are guaranteed to appear. The thing that made most of the cast re-sign, was the fact that the script was great. The only downfall, is that they also signed becaused they were highly interested in working with Vaughn.

Regarding the characters of Beast, Juggernaut, Angel and Shadowcat...the actors previously cast in these roles (Kelsey Grammer, Vinnie Jones, etc) will NOT be changed. Avi Arad said to expect an announcement regarding the actor for Angel soon.

3). Um...what about the director? 20th Century Fox is locking a new director in for the film. Instead of finding someone totally new all together, they will pick a director that they were already considering for X3, before Vaughn signed. The director might not get as much creative input as he would like. With a script, crew, and cast already in place, the director will have to follow under strict guidelines, if 20th Century Fox decides to continue shooting this August. If the film is pushed back a month or two (which we believe would be a good thing), then the director can have a good amount of input, and even possibly contribute to the script, and other casting of characters.

When will we know about the new director? The announcement is expected shortly.

4). Is Vaughn totally gone for X3? No. Vaughn has contributed a large amount of his ideas to the X3 script, which got everyone so excited. Even though he will no longer direct the film, it is possible he will still be able to give input, when needed. Don't be surprised if he signs on as a producer.

5). X3: May 2006? Is this for real? Yes, it is. Is it possible? Very much so. Is it the best thing for X3? In XMF's opinion.....NO! Push the release date back, and allow the new director to get strong input. Don't turn the new guy into a mindless zombie, who has to follow strict guidelines.

Vaughn will REALLY be missed by XMF, and we just hope whoever takes over will treat these characters with respect. ATTN: FOX....don't screw it up!"

[Grant]

Whoa talk about irony.

AICN says the new director is Brett Ratner (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20363)

Sounds plausible. Rush Hour 3 just fell through. He's kind of a hack if you ask me. So I'm hoping that new script is really fricking good.

Remember when Ratner was supposed to do Superman?

-Grant
What's with all the freaking typos Moriarity?

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

i'm interested in the script but not the director.

[blackdragon6]

oh gawd the plot really has thined............


i might be able to swallow brett directing but if he changes the tone of the movie i'm killing him.

[Grant]

i'm interested in the script but not the director.

Ditto. Actually the rumblings I've heard that the scrip Vaughn/Kinberg/Penn wrote is that it's really good and the actors are excited about working on it. It sounds like it's going be more like Mutant Massacre then Dark Phoenix.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

never realized how much I actually cared about the X-MEN films until I finished reading this news and felt a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach. Wow. This could either be some kind of insanely brilliant reinvention of a franchise or it's the untimely death of one that had serious potential.

[hugh45]

Can someone refresh my memory of the Mutant Massacre ?

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

somebodey said something real interesting on the x3 imdb message board

"I can't say I'm unhappy to see him leave - the more he talked about the film , the more it sounded like he wanted to make a "serious" x-men film - which to that small faction of crazed superhero fans that put all their identity into comics seemed like a great idea - "Finally the importance of x-men will be revealed to the world!" To me the guy sounded out to lunch, although I was hoping for the best. The casting choices seemed promising at least. I'm not sure if I like the idea of Whedon directing this thing - has anybody seen the trailer for "Serenity"? Its cool that he writes comic books and directed tween tv - but I'm not sure he's up for this. I wish Irvin Kershner was still in the biz."

i thought it was both funny and somewhat stereotypical..............just a lil :)

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Can someone refresh my memory of the Mutant Massacre ?
the morlocks gets slaughtered for some strange reason or the other.

[Peter]

Rush Hour 3 just fell through.

...

There... *was* a Rush Hour 3?

Heh.

I admit to being a little worried about X-3, but hell, I was worried about X1, and look how that one turned out. So I'll keep an open mind :).

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

if my mind become any more open i'll suffer from brain damage

[blackdragon6]

i'm all ready brain dead

[blackdragon6]

...

There... *was* a Rush Hour 3?


rush hour went into development hell because i believe jackie chan is injured or something or the other

[Nate Grey]

Actually, I heard on the radio Chris Tucker is no longer interested in doing a Rush Hour 3. Jackie Chan, far as I know, still is.

[blackdragon6]

Actually, I heard on the radio Chris Tucker is no longer interested in doing a Rush Hour 3. Jackie Chan, far as I know, still is.*shrugs* either way its deader than dead now.sense jackie said he won't be doing a american movie for quite awhile

[Sheldon]

Yeah Brett, & Jackie approved the script, but Chris Tucker didn't like it.

[Grant]

Yeah Brett, & Jackie approved the script, but Chris Tucker didn't like it.

Wow. THat's pretty ballsy considering he hasn't made a movie in four years (Rush Hour 2 to be exact).

[KenK]

Tucker seems very much committed to his religion right now, and if he feels he has to separate himself from the industry to do so, so be it. Then again, you don't see Tom Cruise turning down roles playing contract killers and motivational speakers who preach the virtues of "respecting the c*ck" and "taming the c*nt", because of Scientology.

[blackdragon6]

uh check this out

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20387


Shock! Gasp! Ratner is aboard to direct X-MEN 3! Aren't you just thrilled? Doesn't this fill you with glee & joy?
Hey folks, Harry here... Moriarty and I knew when we got multiple confirmations that Ratner was the lead candidate to replace Matthew Vaughn as the director of X-MEN 3 that you folks would be upset. Not only that, but when we began contacting everyone involved with no return calls... that it was definitely irreversible and true.
Now, I saw many of you suggesting Alex Proyas to direct X-MEN. Well, one of the reasons they couldn't get Alex Proyas is that after his experience working on I, ROBOT under Tom Rothman - the word I've heard is that Alex has been heard by some to say that he won't make another film for Fox until Rothman is no longer in charge. Personally, I know quite a few filmmakers that feel the same way... so, we're stuck with Brett Ratner directing X-MEN 3.
Now that we're stuck with this 'genius' is there a single solitary bright spot? Well - I haven't read the script - so I can't say anything good about it. The review Moriarty got is pretty fucking scary - and he'll have that for you as soon as his computer gets back online. The review read like a list of demands from talent and execs. Killing 2 of the top three actors in the series and another major character... Then - the regurgitate the angry father of a mutant plotline... whose answer is to make a demutant serum that he gets from... yet another mutant. Well, gosh - the plot worked last time right? Sigh.
9 Weeks till they begin shooting and what this script needs is the type of director that could tell Rothman to butt out of his film, and would work with his writers to weed out the idiotic ideas from the few good ones the script has. However, there is one real fun thing about bringing the Rat aboard... and that's Lalo Schifrin. He's coming aboard to score the film. Now - there's something else kinda funny going on here. You see, people seem to be acting like this was some miracle last minute something... but 3 weeks ago some visual effects folks that were in Canada were heard loose-lipping that they'd been called by Ratner to discuss X-MEN 3. 3 WEEKS AGO!
Moriarty should be back later this week with a full on expose on what sucks and doesn't regarding the script to X-MEN 3. Hey, remember - BATMAN BEGINS rules.

[Grant]

uh check this out

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20387

Looks like this will be AICN's movie to tear down before release for 2006.

I don't know. It can turn out to pretty good. But I'm not liking the idea of essentially repeating the plot of the last movie. But it sounds like a cross between Whedon's first arc and Mutant Massacre.

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

You can just imagine the behind the scenes fights. Reminds me of the fights over Alien 3. It will make an interesting documentary later on but for now the only entertaining part will come from seeing how they messed it up.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

this movie seemed so interesting at first............ugh but now i don't know what to think.everything is just fucked up.and the fact that they are killing off main characters because the actors won't re-sign contractually to do sequels just reeks of lazyness on the writers part.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

this movie seemed so interesting at first............ugh but now i don't know what to think.everything is just fucked up.and the fact that they are killing off main characters because the actors won't re-sign contractually to do sequels just reeks of lazyness on the writers part.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

this movie seemed so interesting at first............ugh but now i don't know what to think.everything is just fucked up.and the fact that they are killing off main characters because the actors won't re-sign contractually to do sequels just reeks of lazyness on the writers part.

[monkeywarplane]

this movie seemed so interesting at first............ugh but now i don't know what to think.everything is just fucked up.and the fact that they are killing off main characters because the actors won't re-sign contractually to do sequels just reeks of lazyness on the writers part.

We get it! ;)

I don't think they'll kill off any main characters... I just don't see that happening for a multitude of reasons. This whoe drama has tore me down from excited to extremely nervous.

Stuart

[Sheldon]

Personally I don't care if they kill people off, as long as its done well. I think we are foolish if we expect more than a trilogy with the same basic cast.

[Phil Clark]

I personally liked the two Rush Hour movies, so I really don't get the uproar about Ratner taking the reigns on X3. The script worries me more than Ratner's directing.

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

the fact that they are killing off main characters because the actors won't re-sign contractually to do sequels just reeks of lazyness on the writers part.

I think we are foolish if we expect more than a trilogy with the same basic cast.


hey i said this type of issue would aries..............




also no matter who is directing i always felt that the x-men movies was gonna paint themselves into a corner eventually.reason being is because if they keep going for major actors for x-men members that decision might come back and haunt them.mainly because the budget would keep getting astronomical along with the egos.especialy if the actors get popular and don't want to do the movies no more.and to be honest i really don't believe any of the actors think highly of the movie to begin with (i might be wrong).not to say i don't understand the buisness decision on the actors part.




told you..........

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

I personally liked the two Rush Hour movies, so I really don't get the uproar about Ratner taking the reigns on X3. The script worries me more than Ratner's directing.now i'm worried about all of the above

[blackdragon6]

hey i said this type of issue would aries..............



told you..........lol not to tute your own horn huh...........


i will say this though. i think if this movie does fail theres gonna be ALOT of people to blame for the failure wether it be directly or indirectly.

the donners

rattner

chris tucker (quiting rush hour,made rattner a choice for fox to direct,thats if rattner screws up though)otherwise he might not count

the writers

avi arad

marvel though to be fair i doubt they have much say so either way

the actors that are leaving ,but like cheyenne said the buissness decision is understandable from their point of view

fox

Tom Rothman

singer not neccessirly blamed but you know what i mean.

vaughn


thats if the movie fails that is :)

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

i think they picked rattner cause he shoots quickly (so i heard),and sense their on a tight deadline he was their ideal choice.

[Grant]

thats if the movie fails that is :)

The movie could turn out well. You never know. I haven't seen this script review AICN is supposebly going to post anyday now. And the movie has a lot working against it like the last minute director changes, last minute rewrites, and a tight budget and script. But also at the same time the cast is still on board and they have some interesting additions. It's kind of a wait and see. I wish Fox treated this franchise a little better and gave the creative people more time to get it right. Singer managed under these constrictions but he also left for Superman because of them as well.

But ultimately if it fails it will have more to do with Fox simply for trying to get this movie out in time for 2006. If it's succeeds it's in spite of this. I really wish they took a cue from Sony and how they treated the Spider-man movies. Raimi said he needed an extra year to get Spider-man 3 ready and they gave it to him.

On the other hand if it does fail they could always reboot the franchise 8 years from now ;)

[blackdragon6]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A short inteview with Kinberg where he talks about how Grammer got the role of Beast:

"Columnists Marilyn Beck and Stacey Jenel Smith talked to X-Men 3 screenwriter Simon Kinberg, who says former "Frasier" star Kelsey Grammer nailed the part of Beast:

"They looked at lots and lots of actors for the part, but the one who came in and gave an absolutely unbelievable performance was Kelsey Grammer," he says. The character is "a cerebral genius trapped in the body of a furry beast. People don't see him for who he is. I saw a tape of Kelsey's performance and the emotion in his eyes. He was just stunningly good."

Kinberg also worked on Fantastic Four and added that, "It's not as dramatic and dark as 'X-Men.' It skirts the line between moments that are quite serious and having a playful spark like 'The Incredibles.'"


Here's the link to a video interview with Mike Elizalde, a member of Spectral Motion, who is working on the effects and make up on X3, where he talks about several things, including Juggernaut and Beast:

http://www.iesb.net/upcomingfilm/movie060705.php


Here's an short interview Ratner did with AllHipHop.com:

"Director Brett Ratner has been hired to replace Matthew Vaughn as director of the anticipated third sequel in the "X-Men" film series.

Vaughn dropped the project less than a week ago for personal reason.

A comic book fan, Ratner appeared eager to take the helms of such a huge film. He was ironically among the viable candidates considered to direct the first "X-Men," which was ultimately given to Bryan Singer.

"Ever since I was a small kid I read comic books," Ratner told AllHipHop.com. "Directing 'X-Men 3' is a dream come true!"

According to Variety, the original "X-Men" stars have been signed on to shoot the third installment of the film, in addition to Kelsey Grammar, Vinnie Jones and Maggie Grace, who will play new mutant characters.

"Singer…set the standards very high," said Ratner. "It will be a huge challenge for me. But I am confident because of the excellent script I was given."

"X-Men 3" is scheduled to open in theaters during Memorial Day weekend 2006."

[KenK]

On the other hand if it does fail they could always reboot the franchise 8 years from now ;)

X-Men Begins in 2014!! :D

[Grant]

X-Men Begins in 2014!! :D

Hey by then maybe I can direct it. You guys want Sentinels right?

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Brett Ratner makes the most painfully ordinary movies I've ever seen.

I hope to be proven wrong, but this does not bode well for the next X-Men movie.

[Phil Clark]

I don't know. I would rather wait until we start getting set reports, and seeing photo's of the actors in costume before I panic.

[KenK]

I don't know. I would rather wait until we start getting set reports, and seeing photo's of the actors in costume before I panic.

You mean like "sane" people? UNACCEPTABLE!

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

You mean like "sane" people? UNACCEPTABLE!when they picked rattner my sanity was shattered.

[KenK]

when they picked rattner my sanity was shattered.

I could understand if it were Uwe Boll or something, but it's not like Brett Rattner's never directed a good film! Being someone who's see all his films, I didn't find any of them so terrible that I'd write off the possibility that he'd do a good X-Men film before I even see any production stills.

[Ontir]

I had the opportunity to speak to James Marsden last night. I didn't ask too many detailed questions, but I did ask if he was going to be back for X3? He said he's talking to Fox, and they want him back, but right now, there's an overlap of about a month with Superman Returns, so it' remains to be seen if that can be worked out. I told him that my one concern with the next film, was all the talk about Dark Phoenix, and that I felt they had to let her be Phoenix, before they took her to "DP." He replied that Fox, et al are intent on not screwing it up, which was a bit of a relief.

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

I could understand if it were Uwe Boll or something, but it's not like Brett Rattner's never directed a good film! Being someone who's see all his films, I didn't find any of them so terrible that I'd write off the possibility that he'd do a good X-Men film before I even see any production stills.
i never said rattner didn't have some skill.i don't think he's out right garbage.i just don't see him doing aything special unlike singer who was really good at balancing multiple characters,despite the script being the wolverine show.like i said in another topic rattner has no vision his movies are just there.but hey this could be his big break,to proove people wrong.oh BTW you remember when you was excited about goyer directing blade trinity?

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

I had the opportunity to speak to James Marsden last night. I didn't ask too many detailed questions, but I did ask if he was going to be back for X3? He said he's talking to Fox, and they want him back, but right now, there's an overlap of about a month with Superman Returns, so it' remains to be seen if that can be worked out. I told him that my one concern with the next film, was all the talk about Dark Phoenix, and that I felt they had to let her be Phoenix, before they took her to "DP." He replied that Fox, et al are intent on not screwing it up, which was a bit of a relief.
so what did marsden get in return for anwsering your questions you groupie. :)

[KenK]

i never said rattner didn't have some skill.i don't think he's out right garbage.i just don't see him doing aything special unlike singer who was really good at balancing multiple characters,despite the script being the wolverine show.like i said in another topic rattner has no vision his movies are just there.but hey this could be his big break,to proove people wrong.oh BTW you remember when you was excited about goyer directing blade trinity?

My excitement for Goyer directing Blade Trinity came from the fact that he had been with the franchise from day one, and I was interested in seeing what he could bring from directing one of his own scripts.

I'm willing to give Rattner a chance, because I've yet to be disappointed by one of his films. I never said, "WOOHOO! Rattner's always been my #1 choice to do an X-Men film!! I can't wait!!"

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

I never said, "WOOHOO! Rattner's always been my #1 choice to do an X-Men film!! I can't wait!!"if you did i would have shot you dead..................or have you commited lol.

[Rachel Grey]

so what did marsden get in return for anwsering your questions you groupie. :)

Makes a big show of saying nothing.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

X3 script review

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443

atleast i know what happened to the ID4 sequel and stephen norrington :(

[blackdragon6]

i'm glad storm is ALEDGEDLY stepping up but damn they could have done the same for cyclops,oh well.......

[Grant]

What no Nightcrawler? He was the best part of the last movie.

The review sounds like a mixed bag. The Rogue and Beast stuff sounds pretty interesting. The rest not so much.

We really should have Sentinels in this one.

[Nate Grey]

X3 script review

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443

atleast i know what happened to the ID4 sequel and stephen norrington :(

Sounds like X-Men 2.5. So Rothman is the man behind Singer not directing?

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

when they said it was gonna be contraversial i assumed it was something they was taking from the comics(yeah it was stupid to assume that).but apparently they're making it contraversial for the sake of being contraversial,and shocking the fans.boy are they gonna feel it if this backfires on them.

i might..MIGHT be able to accept the script if they trash the de-mutant serum storyline,or better yet turn it into the legacy virus.

[blackdragon6]

What no Nightcrawler? He was the best part of the last movie.

The review sounds like a mixed bag. The Rogue and Beast stuff sounds pretty interesting. The rest not so much.

We really should have Sentinels in this one.i noticed night crawler was'nt mentioned either,same for colosus.and as far as the sentinels go it seems to me like their keeping the budget under 90 million.even though batman was revived with 180 million.it seems like fox doesn't want to invest to much into the franchise atleast not finnancialy.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

i was under the impression that they was keeping it under 80 mill?

[blackdragon6]

eitherway fox seems like they don't wanna spend too much money on it.so i guess thats also the reason why the id4 sequel never camed.i'm suprised rolland emerich returned for the day after tommorrow.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

i think nightcrawler is back in,at first he was removed from the cast list.but apparently he's back.but keep in mind i got this info from imdb.com wich means take with a grain of salt

[blackdragon6]

i hope collosus is in it in some capacity

[KenK]

i think nightcrawler is back in,at first he was removed from the cast list.but apparently he's back.but keep in mind i got this info from imdb.com wich means take with a grain of salt

NOPE! Fox didn't pick up Cummings' option.

[Puffy Treat]

Not bringing back Alan Cummings makes my motivation to see the film take a bit of a dip.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

From IESB.net:

"Date: June 17, 2005



Source: IESB
The X-Men 3 script, was it really reviewed?
Author: Robert Sanchez
The X-Men 3 script, was it really reviewed? Yes and no, a script for X-Men 3 was reviewed but it was NOT the current script that is currently being prepped by Kinberg and Penn. The script that has made the internet rounds and into the hands of a few “spies” is at least 4 months old according to multiple sources.



I hardly ever post my own opinions or point of views on the site but after we posted our video interviews that we had with both Kinberg and Rothman some of our readers and viewers have been wanting to know if we could find out some accurate information regarding the validity of the content of the review that has been making some X-Men fans squirm.

Yes the old script had plenty of controversial scenes but it was a rough draft and since then there have been plenty of re-writes. So complaining about the old script should be a mute point by now, there is nothing to bitch about at this time.

A few of you might still believe that Fox should wait for Bryan Singer to finish Superman and let him do the third film. There is a problem with that reasoning, Bryan Singer will be working on Logan's Run next and would push X-Men 3 many more years down the road. Any businessman would tell you that it would be a big mistake to wait on the production of this third film.

Speaking of businessmen, Tom Rothman who is probably one of the best in Hollywood has been nothing but a friend to this genre. He has made sure to keep plenty of great films coming our way.

A few of you believe that he wanted to derail the first X-Men film. But I ask you, how? Didn't Fox hire Singer to direct X-Men? What blockbuster did Bryan have under his belt before X-Men? Didn't Rothman give Singer enough elbow room to make X-Men a great franchise?

Any person in Rothmans position will have plenty of pressure coming from many different areas. Stockholders, production heads and yes even fans. So even though it may be true that the studio at first was not quite sure about the franchise it still shelled out 100 million dollars for a genre that hadn't yet proven itself. Regardless what relationship Rothman and Singer have today, they both deserve credit in helping launch the wave of comic book movies that Hollywood is currently working on.

The claim that Fox was trying to derail the production by moving up the date from winter of 2000 to summer of 2000 is untrue. Tom DeSanto said that he was “walking on air” after the decision of moving up the release date and that they “were pushing for it all along.” Fox had to find a replacement movie for the summer because Minority Report was pushed back, so X-Men got a new release date, which in all reality pushed production forward by only two to three weeks. Trying to derail a project would be what Warner Bros. did to The Iron Giant not what Fox did to X-Men.

Brett Ratner is the man who will helm the next project and what a relief that it isn't Matthew Vaughn. Let me explain, journalists that covered the Layer Cake press events in New York and Los Angeles know that Mr. Vaughn was not very optimistic nor did he have respect for the great work that Bryan Singer had accomplished in the first two films.

He said that he was going to “toughen up the X-Men,” what the hell? I have an idea Matthew, how about first directing a commercially successful film before you take cheap shots at other directors with proven track records!

Brett Ratner on the other hand has been very respectful to Bryan and the franchise. He has also been able to helm commercially successful films such as the two Rush Hour films. But the most important thing to me is that he is a comic book fan, he loves the genre. I have confidence that he won't ruin this franchise; a new director will add his own distinctive flavor but still can remain faithful to the Mutants.

I know that plenty of fans will still continue to bitch and moan about the direction that X-Men 3 will be headed. Studios can never keep all of the fans happy, but if you really dislike the way films are being made I have a few suggestions to all you bitter fans. Get out of your mom's basement and go to film school, besides learning some filmmaking skills you will have a chance to socialize with a real person instead of a computer. You also just might learn some manners so that you can stop this childish behavior of “let's kick someone in the balls” or that “someone must die” and “I want to punch him in the face.” Those statements really show great intelligence and high level of maturity. Has that type of attitude ever get you anywhere in life?

Do you really want to know who the villain of X-Men 3 is? It's all the bitter little people who are trying to derail a project that still hasn't gone into production.

Ratner has a good track record and fans need to give him a chance just like the one Singer got. Good news is that according to a poll that SHH! has been running it appears that the silent majority is either okay or think it's great that Ratner is directing the third film.

Lets me make a few quick points, I have no beef with any other website or anything to gain from 20 th Century Fox. I don't have any ad contracts with Fox nor do I have any hopes of selling a script to the studio. I just felt that this outdated and outrageous script review was getting a little out of hand and is a great disservice to fans worldwide."

http://www.iesb.net/fox2005/061705.php

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

well i was right about vaughn,but i dissagree with Robert Sanchez about rothman,but hey maybe he knows something i dont.

[blackdragon6]

i'm just glad to hear thats a VERRY early draft............or they might just be covering their asses.eitherway i wish them all the luck in the world lol

[CHEYENNE-BLACKBIRD]

maggie grace might be out

Per superherohype.com, ratner has sent out a casting call for the role of kitty pride.

This is the article, in full, from Superherohype.com. View it yourself at http://superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=3219.


The Latest X-Men 3 Updates
Source: Superhero Hype! June 29, 2005

IGN Filmforce tells us they have confirmed that "Lost" and "The Fog" star Maggie Grace is no longer playing Kitty Pryde in X-Men 3. It was also recently announced that "X2" and "X3" screenwriter Zak Penn is developing a third "X-Men" spinoff movie that he may direct. The site says:

According to reliable sources, Penn's project centers around a group of mutant youngsters at Charles Xavier's school for gifted children. Expect some of those young protagonists to probably include characters already established in the X-Men movies.

They add that the roles of Angel and his nefarious father remain uncast, as does the part of Gambit, which will be a minor role. Daniel Cudmore may be back as Colossus in the third film. Speaking of Angel, IGN Filmforce says "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" star Mike Vogel was up for the role, but he has a conflicting schedule.

IGN FilmForce checked with its sources, however, who advised us that Vogel was a candidate for the part but isn't now that he took a role as Emmy Rossum's boyfriend in the remake of The Poseidon Adventure.

'Amy' also pointed us to XMenFilms.net which reminds us that a teaser for X-Men 3 is expected to hit theaters with Fantastic Four next week. Director Brett Ratner will start shooting "X3" this August in Vancouver for a May 26, 2006 release date.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

interesting,can't wait to see what the script is actually about,and who's gonna be angel.

[the_coldest_sun]

I've just about lost all interest after reading the review for that "early script". Singer shouldve just left some notes lying around before sailing for the Big Blue, cus it looks like they don't know what they're doing. Seems like they're trying to make a completely different movie without even looking at the first two and seeing where everything was leading. Eh, enough. Its not worth my time.

[Magneto_X]

Sanaa Lathan would be a great Storm. But my first choice would be Angela Bassett.
Vanessa Willims would work,too.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

people thought it was just geeks that was underwhelmed with the choice of bret rattner.but when critics got wind of it they didin't like the choice either.i would rather x-men have a good director.not someone who just goes through the motions.

[Donald Stone]

Some goos news, they may have found a good Kitty Pride.

From Superherohype (http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=3224)

Writer/director Joss Whedon (the upcoming Wonder Woman) has commented on rumors that his "Firefly" and "Serenity" star Summer Glau is up for the role of Kitty Pryde in X-Men 3, now that "Lost" star Maggie Grace is no longer on board. Whedon posted the following on the "Serenity" official site's message board:

Summer did read for Kitty in X3. I know because she called me and mentioned she was going to and did I know anything about the character (there were no 'sides' to study -- they had to get them when they came in). So the girl I turned into sort of a superhero in my movie was going to read for the character that most influenced ALL my girl-heroes, Kitty Pryde. Karmically funky. Anyhoo, she called me after and said it was very emotional and kind of like when she read for FIREFLY, she just got into a very intense groove. She started telling me about the scene she read and that's when I realized WHY it was kind of like she read for FIREFLY. 'Cause (as you may know) it was a scene I wrote for Astonishing X-Men issue #5. I assume they just didn't have sides ready and used that but this was like a karmic moebius strip, it was just too folded in on itself. In this time of odd, I turned to beer. (No I didn't. Stay in school.)

I don't know what the X-peeps are looking for -- or even if that other girl has really dropped out -- but for my money, Summer would make a wonderful Kitty. (And I don't say that lightly.) As long as it doesn't interfere with SERENITY II: RICARDO MONTALBAN'S STILL PISSED -- or, much more importantly, SERENITY III: SO VERY NUDE.

He's summer for those heathens who've never seen Firefly.

http://www.iesb.net/movies2/Summer%20Glau-IGC04.JPG

[blackdragon6]

i was never really worried about casting its the script that scares the shit out of me.

[Magneto_X]

Some goos news, they may have found a good Kitty Pride.

From Superherohype (http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=3224)



He's summer for those heathens who've never seen Firefly.

http://www.iesb.net/movies2/Summer%20Glau-IGC04.JPG

We've found our Kitty Pryde. She's perfect!

[Magneto_X]

lol not to tute your own horn huh...........


i will say this though. i think if this movie does fail theres gonna be ALOT of people to blame for the failure wether it be directly or indirectly.


Tom Rothman


thats if the movie fails that is :)

If X3 fails this guy deserves the blame. He's the one who alienated Singer in the first place! :(

[Vaders shoeshine boy]

thats IF the rumors are true about halle not returning


i think they should go for a young version of iman,or beverly johnson...................face it people iman IS storm,our reality's storm at that,the only thing different is the eye color,and white hair..


Iman's not an actress,but she should get Halles' Oscar for kissing Michael in that video...

[Magneto_X]

What parents name their daughter "Iman" in the first place????? Whenever I hear it I automatically think "I'm a man". lmao

[blackdragon6]

its african it means something or the other

[blackdragon6]

If X3 fails this guy deserves the blame. He's the one who alienated Singer in the first place! :(
tim rothman has his defenders so *shrugs* who knows...........i do belive now that he knows the x-men are commercially viable i doubt he'll intentionally screw it up.

[Magneto_X]

tim rothman has his defenders so *shrugs* who knows...........i do belive now that he knows the x-men are commercially viable i doubt he'll intentionally screw it up.

Have you read the AICN article about him? If anything the opposite is true.
Of course he has defenders, he's their *boss*.

[Michael P]

According to today's New York Post, Brett Ratner has written Stacy X (http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=37199) into X3.

Kill me now.

[Magneto_X]

Saw that at AICN. Just keeps getting worse, doesn't it? :(

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

actually i like stacy-x :p.........but like blackdragon said its the script that bothers me not the characters

[Bright-Raven]

Okay, has anyone explained why Katie Stuart isn't playing the role of Shadowcat anymore? She fit the role just fine. Right age, right height, looks were plain to slightly attractive, just as Kitty was in her mid teen years...

Summer Glau? Hello? Decent actress, sure, but only 5 inches too tall and about 5 years too old for the role!

[blackdragon6]

i'm suprised night crawler isn't coming back,but seeing as how theres 2 blue characters i guess its understandable.

[Grant]

Okay, has anyone explained why Katie Stuart isn't playing the role of Shadowcat anymore? She fit the role just fine. Right age, right height, looks were plain to slightly attractive, just as Kitty was in her mid teen years...

Considering her role consisted of falling through a floor and running through walls for a minute or two they probably wanted someone who fit the role they were writing for X3 better. She was basically an extra with special effects. Also consider this is a new production team for the most part making the movie. They probably want more of a say who's playing the part then just taking somebody from the last movie who didn't even have a speaking part. They probably haven't seen much of Katie Stuart to think "hey lets bring her back." I mean that's why they replaced Pyro in the second movie.

I don't think Summer Glau has been cast. She just auditioned.

[Peter]

Kill me now.

It's not lookin' that good, is it?

As long as the movie has Iceman in it, I can forgive them just about anything. But at the rate they're going...

[Bright-Raven]

Grant:

Considering her role consisted of falling through a floor and running through walls for a minute or two they probably wanted someone who fit the role they were writing for X3 better. She was basically an extra with special effects. Also consider this is a new production team for the most part making the movie. They probably want more of a say who's playing the part then just taking somebody from the last movie who didn't even have a speaking part. They probably haven't seen much of Katie Stuart to think "hey lets bring her back." I mean that's why they replaced Pyro in the second movie.

My point is, did they even offer Stuart the role or ask her to come in and read for it? If they can let Summer Glau read, whose only noteworthy part in her acting career to date is her mostly NON SPEAKING role of River Tam on Joss Whedon's FIREFLY... they most certainly can give the person they already had cast an equal chance, don't you think?

And maybe they did. That's all I'm asking - were they fair?

And the second point is, why are they letting someone who is 5 inches too tall and 5 years too old for the part read for the damn role in the first place? Because she's associated with Whedon, who's writing an X-Men book now? Doesn't the casting director have enough brains to check these things, or are they just saying piss on it because hey, Hugh Jackman's not 5'3" either so it doesn't matter what anyone else's height is?

Well, it DOES matter. We can suspend disbelief on Wolverine. Where the hell are you going to find a 5'3" actor with the physique, gravelly voice and acting chops? Nowhere. But to say they cannot find a brunette actress between 5'2" and 5'5" who can play the role? That's a load of crap.

And no, I would not have cast Anna Paquin as Rogue. Too young and too short. Famke Jansen? Too old for Jean Grey - works for being with Jackman, but around Marsden as Cyclops she looks like she's robbing the cradle. There's been all sorts of problems with the casting from the getgo as far as I'm concerned.

So to throw away one of the very few characters where they have actually cast a talent who's got the right look and age, irks the hell out of me. Especially if they're going to fill the role with someone clearly not right for the role. And yes, I know - Glau only read. She may not get the part.

And Joss Whedon, current writer of one of the X-Books and two of 20th Century Fox's biggest franchises, BUFFY and ANGEL, certainly isn't going to make a few phone calls to Fox (who is holding X-MEN) and help one of his people land a role. Riiiight. Hell, they even had her read a scene from one of his scripts from his comic, for God's sake!

I mean, hell, why don't they just call Sarah Michelle Gellar in for the role? After all, she freaking *IS* Pryde.

1) Both are 5'3"

2) Both are of Jewish heritage

3) Both are from broken homes with divorced parents and bad relationships with their fathers.

4) Kitty used to be into ice skating; SMG - competitive ice skater throughout her early teens.

5) Both wear reading glasses.

Seriously, Grant. Just dye SMG's hair back to her natural brunette, tell her to play Willow Rosenberg from Seasons 1-2 of BUFFY, with maybe a little bit of Buffy's attitude, and if they want to they can let her have her martial arts too. Of course, SHE is too old for the role as well, but if you're going to consider an actress five years too old, why not consider an actress who's eight years too old while you're at it? After all, she's still a "marquee name" that'll put more butts in the seats!

[Grant]

My point is, did they even offer Stuart the role or ask her to come in and read for it? If they can let Summer Glau read, whose only noteworthy part in her acting career to date is her mostly NON SPEAKING role of River Tam on Joss Whedon's FIREFLY... they most certainly can give the person they already had cast an equal chance, don't you think?

And maybe they did. That's all I'm asking - were they fair?

Probably not but then again we're talking a multi million dollar franchise here. Casting is anything but fair. Sure she played Kitty Pryde before but she didn't have any lines or had any sort role in the overall story. She was basically an Easter Egg for all us X-Men fans.

Summer Glau's performance on Firefly (whichshe did have more then a few moments where she did dialogue) showed a definate character arc over the course of 14 episodes. Katie Stuarts 2 or 3 minutes of screentime in X2 didn't. That's a huge difference. She's also getting some pretty rave notices from Serenity which I'm sure a few Fox executives probably checked out. I'm not saying she's the best person for the role but I can see why she would get considered over Stuart. If she even gets the part. There's probably a couple of people they are considering right now.

And who knows if Katie Stuart got a chance to audition or not? I'm sure her agent is trying to push for her. Looking at her current resume she had the lead in the TV miniseries A Wrinke in Time and a small role in The Sisterhood of Traveling Pants neither of which I never saw. I honestly don't think she got enough attention in either to make the X-Men producers say "Hey lets give her another shot."

As for Kitty's age. I think she's being portrayed as a peer to Rogue and Iceman so it makes sense they cast someone early twenties. As for her height I honestly don't think it's that big of an issue to me. I'm sure they are looking at 5'5 girls too.

[cactusmaac]

It's a movie.

Why does it have to conform to all the minor details presented in the comic book?

[Magneto_X]

It's a movie.

Why does it have to conform to all the minor details presented in the comic book?

There needs to be *some* connection to the comics or why bother doing it in the first place?

[cable guy]

There has to be more than just some connection to the comics, but little changes here and there are cool.

[Magneto_X]

There has to be more than just some connection to the comics, but little changes here and there are cool.

That's why the popular comic-based movies worked. They only altered things to make if it made sense, not just because they're cheap or have big egos.

[Peter]

There needs to be *some* connection to the comics or why bother doing it in the first place?

Yeah, I mean, did we learn nothing from the massive flop that was "Catwoman"?

Totally ripping the heck out of the source material is nonsensical. The reason the concept *has* a fanbase is because of the original material, and you know it's sure to work. Ignoring that not only alienates the fans, but means you're heading into uncharted territory, ignoring what made the concept so successful in the first place -- edit -- and risking dismal failure, like in the case of afore-mentioned "Catwoman".

[Bright-Raven]

Grant:

SISTERHOOD might not even be out yet - it's either in theatres now, or soon to be. And it's a bit part.

Still, there is Stuart's roles in Stargate SG-1, and her roles in CROW: Highway To Heaven, and... well, as I said, she's got a lot more experience than Glau. I know, I know, it's "What have you done for me lately?"

Daniel what's his name (Colossus) didn't get that much more of a role than Stuart and has even less acting experience than Glau, and he's back. I just want some consistency in the casting, eh?

[Bright-Raven]

Actually, Catwoman just wasn't the character we all know and wanted. If you take it as them taking the concept of "a" Catwoman, with the spirit of the Cat imbued into a woman, instead of what we expect from Selina Kyle, it's still not a great movie, and could have been written a lot better, but the overall concept works.

If the writers / producers could have made up their minds as to what they actually wanted (they kept flip flopping from cat spirit person to the cat burglar), it had some potential. And it still wasn't as bad as people like to complain.

[hugh45]

Okay, has anyone explained why Katie Stuart isn't playing the role of Shadowcat anymore? She fit the role just fine. Right age, right height, looks were plain to slightly attractive, just as Kitty was in her mid teen years...

Summer Glau? Hello? Decent actress, sure, but only 5 inches too tall and about 5 years too old for the role!

She's the one in X I/II?

[Grant]

Daniel what's his name (Colossus) didn't get that much more of a role than Stuart and has even less acting experience than Glau, and he's back. I just want some consistency in the casting, eh?

I don't know if anyone isure if he's coming back. But you like you said before it's hard to find actors who fit the physical requirements of certain chara