JLI gets cancelled

[ArnoldoAAD]

this was already talk in other threads but i think it does deserve its own thread

From DC Source


JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL #12

Written by DAN JURGENS

Art by AARON LOPRESTI and MATT RYAN

Cover by DAVID FINCH and RICHARD FRIEND

On sale AUGUST 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE

• It’s the funeral for ROCKET RED.

• Several members resign from the team – who will be left?

This SUCKS

Justice League: Generation Lost was so many different kinds of Awesome so when the ongoing was announced who the hell wouldn't be exited
and then we get this title

Its probably the biggest disappointment of the new 52

[Rakzo]

Yeah, although I was enjoying the title I have to admit that it was nothing excellent and I was really disappointed that Winick was'nt the one who relaunched the series.

Let's hope that it gets replaced with another JL title and all these characters that I love go to other books.

[Nayrman]

So that's two books O.M.A.C. has been in to get cancelled. Hm... (joking joking)



Well, it has been a massive disappointment, that's for sure. I can see why it did get cancelled, but at the same time I think there are plenty of other things that should have gone before it. Hopefully some characters at least get salvaged and put into other things.

[RolandJP]

Saddened news. I liked this book more than MAINLINE JLA.

And I also enjoyed OMAC.

[DaronK]

I'm just surprised that this is the only title listed as cancelled, especially since it obviously wasn't selling as poorly as so many others (not that I'm going to miss this title).

A lot of the other titles sound like they could be ending, though, based on the what the solicits actually say.

[AdamYJ]

We are gathered here today to mourn the most average of the books in DC's New 52 line. Though it was neither excellent nor terrible but just kind of mediocre, we shall miss it. Why? Because, like all average books, it had potential that will never be reached. Also, it's where OMAC went after his series was cancelled. :frown:

[Hulk_Is]

I'm thankful to DC for making the necessary adjustments. Dan Jurgens writing was solid on the book, but it wasn't too exciting. I was going to drop JLI eventually because of this and now it seems that even DC saw the writing on the wall.

Changing to a different creative team carries it's own trepidation as well because you can't guarantee that it will automatically be better (or guarantee greater sales).

I am just gald to see DC sticking to their guns about quality and as a JLI reader I support their decision to cancel the book.

[shingi70]

Most likely DC doesn't want more than 3 League books. I'm calling it here.

Justice League International #12 - team disbands
Justice League #12- Aquaman leaves the team.
Justice League Annual #1- learn more about omac and find out whatever brother eye was trying to prevent in omac is coming. Book ends with Steve Trevor and Argus talking about being prepared and JLI was a decent test run in creating their own league.

September
Justice League Elite #0- explaining why the new tea. Was picked and more about Argus. Written by Dido and art by lopeestti with the cast being

Aquaman
Mera
Element woman
Green Arrow
omac

With the rest of members being introduced in this and other books before Trinity war.

In September the danomites event starts and is like night of owls in crossover type.

[Ed Sizzers]

I can't be sorry it's cancelled, as I wasn't reading it in the first place. I was sorry 9 months ago, when it started, and it was like someone had taken an issue of Generation Lost and decided to to remove the personalities of every character in it.

[ascended]

Only thing that makes me sad about this is that Booster Gold will be homeless, unless he finds his way into a different title.

The book was not terrible, just extremely average. Im surprised this was the only one listed as being canned though. Especially since other titles are selling less and some of those are of only slightly higher quality.

Oh well. I have hopes that Booster will return as the Time Master we all came to love after the 52 series.

[FHIZ]

With the annual and whats teased in the solicits, and the fact that it's the only cancelation, it is really quite obvious that this isn't as much a cancellation as a retooling. They're probably going to run with the concept as something new, with a new team, in September/October.

[Hulk_Is]

With the annual and whats teased in the solicits, and the fact that it's the only cancelation, it is really quite obvious that this isn't as much a cancellation as a retooling. They're probably going to run with the concept as something new, with a new team, in September/October.

I wonder who the new creative team will be if DC decides to continue along a new path?

[SpideyCzar]

Maybe Lopresti can get on a better title worthy of his talent.

[Biolizard]

Since its sales are decent and it's the only book to be listed as ending, it looks like there's some reorganisation afoot rather than a canning of the concept entirely.

I notice that Martian Manhunter is leaving Stormwatch; I'd be surprised if he weren't going to some new team as well.

Fear not folks; hopefully this is the start of something good.

[ArnoldoAAD]

Yeah, although I was enjoying the title I have to admit that it was nothing excellent and I was really disappointed that Winick was'nt the one who relaunched the series.

Let's hope that it gets replaced with another JL title and all these characters that I love go to other books.

When i think about it, it all comes down to issue 6, it just proved that DC has NO IDEA what they were doing or going to do with the title so the cancellation wasnt anything surprising


So that's two books O.M.A.C. has been in to get cancelled. Hm... (joking joking)

thats kind of sad cause is true



Well, it has been a massive disappointment, that's for sure. I can see why it did get cancelled, but at the same time I think there are plenty of other things that should have gone before it. Hopefully some characters at least get salvaged and put into other things.

i think is good that the book was put out of its misery

[DragonPiece]

Definitely looks like they are just doing a new Justice League title starting next month with issue 0...

[FHIZ]

I wonder who the new creative team will be if DC decides to continue along a new path?

Dunno. Maybe Didio? Just basing that off the Annual, complete guess. I hope Lopresti gets the art job or at least something else, I always liked his art.

[CagedLeo730]

Is it a coincidence that JLI is getting cancelled, Martian Manhunter is leaving Stormwatch and Vibe will make an appearance in the future. Can you say "Justice League Detroit"

[IronMagnus]

Is Lopresti exclusive to DC?

[petesake]

I'm going to have to disagree with those saying it wasn't terrible

[shingi70]

Is Lopresti exclusive to DC?

I hope so loved his art here and in Gen lost.

[Rakzo]

Dunno. Maybe Didio? Just basing that off the Annual, complete guess. I hope Lopresti gets the art job or at least something else, I always liked his art.

I hope that is not only Didio since he's fairly unremarkable by himself, it would'nt be an improvement over Jurgens.

Lopresti however, really needs to draw the next JL book or at least another one, he's fantastic.

[Desaad]

Nothing was destroyed here. They're relaunch another JL book, seeing how successful this one was, they're just responding to a lack of direction and a lack of quality/good reviews. It was bland, they recognized that, and they realized it could be doing better if it had some greater purpose or style.

That does not mean we'll like what we ultimately get instead, mind you, but it really couldn't be any worse than this. I'd take a Liefeld book over this, because at least that is distinctive.

[Genki Sudo]

I am not saddened by this, the terrible writing from Jurgens was why I dropped this with the 4th issue, this book needed to be put down or get a new writer and they went with the mercy killing.


I would like to hope Vixen, August, Fire & Ice will show up somewhere else but I doubt it

[SJNeal]

Hopefully they don't get the wrong idea and decide not to go with the classic JLI'ers. I still want Fire, Ice, Booster, and Guy together on a team...

[Desaad]

My hope would be for a Global Guardians/Justice League World/Justice League Unlimited launch, or something very similar, with Mike Costa riffing on Ellis' Stormwatch run. Reading his Blackhawks you saw a real facility with organizational structures and international team members. This would seem to be backed up by his GI Joe work. His Hawksmoore mini showed a near poetry and an ability for very high concept stuff. He's also very interested in writing Booster Gold, or was a few years back at least.

But I'd also take a Brian Clevinger-style revamp to make the book fun, funny, bombastic.

Just make it good, guys.

[petesake]

not soon enough genki, since I see jurgens killed rocket red >:|

seriously, don't let him write DC. don't let him draw either but especially don't let him write

[slvn]

I notice that Martian Manhunter is leaving Stormwatch; I'd be surprised if he weren't going to some new team as well.


I bet he is, but I wonder if it will be as himself or in deep cover, like when he was Bloodwynd. Could he be posing as Vibe or Atom or someone?


Most likely DC doesn't want more than 3 League books. I'm calling it here...
September
Justice League Elite #0- explaining why the new tea. Was picked and more about Argus. Written by Dido and art by lopeestti with the cast being...

I think you might be right, but not sure if it'll be JL Elite. Maybe Justice League: Team Eight (successor to the Team 7 on which Trevor served) or Justice League Outsiders.

[shingi70]

I bet he is, but I wonder if it will be as himself or in deep cover, like when he was Bloodwynd. Could be be Vibe or Atom or someone?

Not atom as ray Palmer left shade.

But please darer God left Vibe be MM.

[SteveGus]

Disappointed by this; it was straightforward superheroics, which is too rare in nuDC, and enjoyed Lopresti's art if nothing else.

[Jody Garland]

I don't think it was cancelled. The solicits don't have the FINAL ISSUE blurb with it anymore. I guess it was a mistake?

[Zup]

I'm smelling a creation of a Justice League of America book to go alongside Justice League. An actual American Justice League, headed by the US government and more open to expansion.

[Desaad]

I don't think it was cancelled. The solicits don't have the FINAL ISSUE blurb with it anymore. I guess it was a mistake?

Nice catch. He's right!

Must be that they're changing the name of the title, or it's just a massive new direction, which would actually work out better if they decided to go in the more 'cutting edge political' Ellis Stormwatch we've been talking about. No need to change the name.

I think that no matter what we'll be seeing a drastically different title coming out of this than going in, so even if the title itself isn't ending, people who have been enjoying the current direction (or not enjoying it) should brace themselves for a change.

[Schnitzy Pretzelpants]

Dunno. Maybe Didio? Just basing that off the Annual, complete guess. I hope Lopresti gets the art job or at least something else, I always liked his art.

Why Didio? Is Rob Liefield busy?

[Desaad]

Certainly hope it is not 'just didio'.

Didio+ Giffen is fine, though not ideal. But just Didio means no buy for me.

[Schnitzy Pretzelpants]

Certainly hope it is not 'just didio'.

Didio+ Giffen is fine, though not ideal. But just Didio means no buy for me.

Apparently it isn't cancelled though. It was a typo that has since been corrected in the solicits.

[AdamYJ]

Disappointed by this; it was straightforward superheroics, which is too rare in nuDC, and enjoyed Lopresti's art if nothing else.

Really? Because I think there are a lot of straightforward superhero books in this line. Standard superhero fare and dark superhero fare seem to be the norm. What's really lacking is lighter toned material.

[ArnoldoAAD]

I don't think it was cancelled. The solicits don't have the FINAL ISSUE blurb with it anymore. I guess it was a mistake?

also no other titles got that tag of "final issue" probably they wanted to keep it secret but i do think it is over now

[Desaad]

Apparently it isn't cancelled though. It was a typo that has since been corrected in the solicits.

Right, but I think it's safe to say that no matter what we aren't going to be getting Jurgens and Lopresti on the series at the end of this. Whether the series itself is canceled or it's being retooled, I think we'll be getting a creative shake up; darker, lighter, whatever, but it won't be the same.

[scott lantern]

Apparently it isn't cancelled though. It was a typo that has since been corrected in the solicits.

I think it wasn't a typo, probably just information that shouldn't have been released yet. A lot of titles sound like they could be the last. ie. Voodoo, Ressurection Man etc.
Why would something like that be typed if they weren't intending to cancel it? I think an announcement of cancelled books will be coming soon.

[Rakzo]

So, it's not cancelled then?.

Awesome!. I hope they give it a great new creative team.

[Noj]

I have a feeling like alot of people here that it will be relaunched as something different and not necessarilly canceled. At least I hope so. It seems like a real tease to have Blue Beetle team up with them in the annual only to cancel it.

But IF it is canceled I at least hope that Booster gets his own title again. The greatest thing that could possibly happen would be if Booster suddenly regained his pre Flashpoint memories due to him being the only other main DCU character that made it into the Flashpoint event other than the Flash and he starts investigating the timestream again to see where everything went wrong and what he can do to fix it.

[ArnoldoAAD]

I think it wasn't a typo, probably just information that shouldn't have been released yet. A lot of titles sound like they could be the last. ie. Voodoo, Ressurection Man etc.
Why would something like that be typed if they weren't intending to cancel it? I think an announcement of cancelled books will be coming soon.

I think the same

[slvn]

Sorry to disappoint, but it still says "FINAL ISSUE" on this page: http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2012/05/14/justice-league-group-solicits

JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL #12

Written by DAN JURGENS

Art by AARON LOPRESTI and MATT RYAN

Cover by DAVID FINCH and RICHARD FRIEND

On sale AUGUST 1 • 32 pg, FC, $2.99 US • RATED T • FINAL ISSUE

• It’s the funeral for ROCKET RED.

• Several members resign from the team – who will be left?

[scott lantern]

I think the same

I like the way you think!!

I'm sure DC want to make a big announcement about cancallations/new books and not just slip it in solicits - which I think is clear based on how they have done things the last year or so...

[CBikle]

JLI isn't getting cancelled, it's simply getting relaunched as a book with a new title, numbering, creative team, characters and genre.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

I hope it is cancelled. I dislike this book like others disliked Static and Mr. Terrific.

From the concept to the writing (the art wasn't that bad), this book was a waste.

Frankly, if they wanted an Ice, Fire, Booster, Guy, etc. team, just give them the Infinity Inc. or All-Star Squadron title. Or some other lesser known name. I wanted Justice League international to feel like an actual global team dealing with global issues. Private firms, Checkmate, DEO, terrorism, crisis' that can't be punched out. Not a riff off of Giffen's League or Lost Generation. The stuff teams like Thunder Agents were handling, but on a larger scale.


Less Giffen, more Ellis.

Less Winnick or Jurgens, more Trautmann or even Spencer on his A game.

[Reginleif]

CBR has confirmed with DC that "Justice League International" #12 is indeed the final issue of the series, but the publisher did not comment on the circumstances of the ending.

it is being cancelled

[TJKernan]

This book was a mediocre bore, and if getting rid of it gets us a new title with Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Vibe, etc, etc...then I am all for it!!!

[Rakzo]

Less Giffen, more Ellis.

No, please. More Giffen, less Ellis.

Giffen is smart without being pretentious.

[doordoor123]

The first arc ruined the book. And he took some great characters out of the book. I'm actually pissed that Red Rocket was killed as if he were fickle, but it seems that the book was finally picking up with the addition of Batwing and OMAC.
IF OMAC ISNT ANYWHERE AFTER THIS, I WILL GO ON A RAMPAGE!

[protege]

This book was a mediocre bore, and if getting rid of it gets us a new title with Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Vibe, etc, etc...then I am all for it!!!

Wait- are you saying we're getting the Detroit league again?

[maximiliani]

It's really a shame they couldn't have just done a classic semi-fun book with Ice, Fire, Booster, Red Rocket and Guy and maybe Blue Beetle. That's a "it's not broke" sort of situation. How they butchered that AND took out Vixen with it is OUTRAGEOUS.

[Fate's Faith]

Is it a coincidence that JLI is getting cancelled, Martian Manhunter is leaving Stormwatch and Vibe will make an appearance in the future. Can you say "Justice League Detroit"

I think this is clearly a new Justice League title being lauched and frankly, I wouldn't be surprised the retooled title isn't named Justice League International but I'd think it funny as hell if it was based in Detroit :cool:

[beezer210]

and that's the whole thing about the reboot that still ticks me off. There were some concepts that WORKED and they still got thrown out. Generation Lost was a great series that had great potential. They could keep around much of the Green Lantern mythos- could they have not picked up with where we left off with the JLI? Granted, they would have had to make some changes, but they pretty much completely rebooted it and it felt very, very awkward.

Booster's title was going great, and had a great concept. Gone.

I know that sales picked up, but good lord, some of these concepts should have survived into the new 52.

[JaggedFel]

and that's the whole thing about the reboot that still ticks me off. There were some concepts that WORKED and they still got thrown out. Generation Lost was a great series that had great potential. They could keep around much of the Green Lantern mythos- could they have not picked up with where we left off with the JLI? Granted, they would have had to make some changes, but they pretty much completely rebooted it and it felt very, very awkward.

Booster's title was going great, and had a great concept. Gone.

I know that sales picked up, but good lord, some of these concepts should have survived into the new 52.

I understand your argument but you cannot compare the success of GL to JLI and BG. Still yeah too many unnecessary changes which work well for the Dark Line but the Justice League Line is a mixed bag and Young Justice and Edge are pretty awful.

[Rakzo]

Hell, I would'nt be surprised if DC named the next book "Justice League Edge" so they can put it on that family.

[JaggedFel]

Hell, I would'nt be surprised if DC named the next book "Justice League Edge" so they can put it on that family.

IMO, sounds kinda lame name wise. I would just go with Justice League Elite. Still it would make sense for the Main Line, Dark, Edge, and Young Justice Line to all have a clear flagship book with Justice League in the title.

[beezer210]

I get that GL and Booster's title weren't the juggernaut that the Green Lantern franchise has become. There was actual care in those stories, though, which is, IMO, what it shared with the GL initiative from a few years ago. I think if you foster that kind of thing, rather than the pain-by-numbers approach taken by the current JLI title, you'll have a better chance of success.

[Rakzo]

IMO, sounds kinda lame name wise. I would just go with Justice League Elite. Still it would make sense for the Main Line, Dark, Edge, and Young Justice Line to all have a clear flagship book with Justice League in the title.

I know and I would prefer if the name was Justice League Elite, but they already have a Justice League Dark and I'm quite sure that they're already working on a New 52 Young Justice.

[JaggedFel]

I get that GL and Booster's title weren't the juggernaut that the Green Lantern franchise has become. There was actual care in those stories, though, which is, IMO, what it shared with the GL initiative from a few years ago. I think if you foster that kind of thing, rather than the pain-by-numbers approach taken by the current JLI title, you'll have a better chance of success.

IMO, you make a good argument. I think part of the problem with this relaunch is not enough planning in most areas. They did not write out a clear timeline in advance and that hurt execution which gave the advantage to the iconic characters (Big 6) that they cared about and the guys like animal man who were on the fringe while screwing all the teens and adult characters in the middle. Still that is part of the problem when you have such a big universe with so many characters. Lot easier to reboot something with a shorter list of characters. Although I think it would be easier to do marvel since its easier to make a list of teams and who gets solos based on past records of success.

True on the naming. I suppose the name on the cover is not that important.

[theflyingfrogunderdog]

this was already talk in other threads but i think it does deserve its own thread

From DC Source


This SUCKS

Justice League: Generation Lost was so many different kinds of Awesome so when the ongoing was announced who the hell wouldn't be exited
and then we get this title

Its probably the biggest disappointment of the new 52

Unbelievable...i just get interested in the title because of OMAC appearing, and it's getting cancelled. It seems like every title i get interested in gets cancelled. People say buy what you like...what can i do?? :confused: I wonder how long Frankenstein Agent of S.H.A.D.E. will last? :frown:

[DrSimonHurt]

It was a really bad idea for this book to reboot instead of continue plot threads from Brightest Day...I lost interest when I realized Jurgens rebooted the team.

[theflyingfrogunderdog]

So that's two books O.M.A.C. has been in to get cancelled. Hm... (joking joking)

It seems, i have to hunt any books OMAC is in, down. DC cancels titles before they can gain a following. I guess they figure if they don't sell enough copies after half a dozen issues, that's it.

[ArnoldoAAD]

http://i1189.photobucket.com/albums/z433/Ravager11/JL-GenerationLost024042.jpg

ok
NOW is over

did you get that

[beezer210]

It's nice to see Booster again with the unnecessary design around the goggles.

[AstroShark]

thu is or WAS my favvorite book i was reading out of everything i was reading...I just dont get why this book was canned?? I dont think sales were low and compared to some of the other DC titles that had 10 times worse the sales?!

[The Cool Thatguy]

I'm amazed it lasted this long. The reboot utterly destroyed the lead-in series (Did they even mention Max Lord once?), and man was it crushingly depressing the first few arcs.

[ArnoldoAAD]

thu is or WAS my favvorite book i was reading out of everything i was reading...I just dont get why this book was canned?? I dont think sales were low and compared to some of the other DC titles that had 10 times worse the sales?!

is ok if you liked it but the fact is, the book did not work out
issue 6 is just evidence that they had no idea where they were going with this team

the idea in essence was good but the execution lacking
from the team, the characterization the overall direction

it just Failed

[AstroShark]

From what im reading for the sloicts i have a feeling we will be seeing a new JL book coming out of what goes down in the JLI Annual...I just hope some of the JLI guys stick around (especially Booster)

[JaggedFel]

From what im reading for the sloicts i have a feeling we will be seeing a new JL book coming out of what goes down in the JLI Annual...I just hope some of the JLI guys stick around (especially Booster)

IMO, you don't have to worry about Booster. Honestly, I like everyone except Godiva. I hope she gets canned but for some reason I doubt that shall occur.

[Fate's Faith]

It's nice to see Booster again with the unnecessary design around the goggles.

I know not the place but I have to say, I have never ever liked the goggles. I'm not sure why but they just bug me. I wish he'd lose them.

[ArnoldoAAD]

I'm amazed it lasted this long. The reboot utterly destroyed the lead-in series (Did they even mention Max Lord once?), and man was it crushingly depressing the first few arcs.

Max was in Omac, which is probably why Omac end up on the team and why Didio and Johns are actually doing the Annual

but is not really as good as the Max of JL:GL

If anything I think there is an actual story reason why the book was canceled and is probably cause Johns has some plan for it

but is obvious that they didnt had a plan at all when this book was created, is a really freaking trainwreck of execution

Its funny cause on of the main reasons why JLA failed so badly on the last volume was because of the constant editoral mandates and now JL is finally in a please where they can actually do stuff without a big concern on it but is JLI who is getting all the problems now

[KingOfCups]

It's a damn shame that JLI is ending before it could become great as I was hoping it would. I felt that there was definitely some potential, but C'est La Vie.

Really liking the cover for issue 12.

[FIFTY-TWO (52)]

See, now I'm gonna start praying with my eyes open.
I prayed for a new creative team with my eyes shut tight, and somebody went and overcompensated.

[FIFTY-TWO (52)]

is ok if you liked it but the fact is, the book did not work out
issue 6 is just evidence that they had no idea where they were going with this team

the idea in essence was good but the execution lacking
from the team, the characterization the overall direction

it just Failed

True. Thanks, Dan Jurgens.:mad:

[Mr. Holmes]

I was worried that with the tease of the new JL team Trevor is forming, there would be too many Justice Leagues, especially if two are government sponsored. I'm really glad that DC decided to revamp a bland book even if it's sales weren't dismal.

[AstroShark]

Im sorry im just really pissed about JLI ending...i really hope DC have a new JL book there working on ..i actually liked having more then just one Justice League team with a ongoing series and i am (or was) enjoying all 3 JL books (JL,JLI and JL Dark). Sure JLI needed some tweaking but i still dont feel this book deserved cancelation.

[JaggedFel]

I was worried that with the tease of the new JL team Trevor is forming, there would be too many Justice Leagues, especially if two are government sponsored. I'm really glad that DC decided to revamp a bland book even if it's sales weren't dismal.

IMO, it would have been fine if they did the concept right. JLI would be the UN Team. JL is the Private Team. JLD is the Private Team that deals with Magic. Trevor's team as the US Government's Special Team. Problem is they blew up the JLI concept by having the UN Oppose it. Honestly, that was the easiest part to get right and yet they screwed it up. All downhill from there.

As for total number of teams. 4-5 would be fine. Standard, Magic, Special Forces, International, and a School. Still in some ways its nice to know that sales is not the only motivating factor at DC and there is some quality control.

[Desaad]

[QUOTE=Kid Kamikaze10;15173484

Less Giffen, more Ellis.

[/QUOTE]

While I myself have touted guys like Trautmann, Costa, and Ellis as a good fit for one 'tone' of a good JLI book, you're wrong to dismiss Giffen.

Giffen has VERY much in common with Ellis, Hickman, Trautmann, Costa, etc. His work on Legion, and LEGION, and Doom Patrol, etc had a lot of intricate politics.

[shingi70]

Eh for all the so called blandness I really liked the book. I have only read the first issue and issues #8 and #9 because of my boy omac.

I liked the book had a retro avengers feel though I hate the fact that they blew up the hall of justice. While I usually disklike the hall of justice and avengers mansion in favor of watchtower and avengers tower. But when the concepts is done right its good. This could have been a very retro written book with stories like the 80s avengers and League books.

And I liked the final lineup and the team had a different feel than the big seven.

[shingi70]

I hope it is cancelled. I dislike this book like others disliked Static and Mr. Terrific.

From the concept to the writing (the art wasn't that bad), this book was a waste.

Frankly, if they wanted an Ice, Fire, Booster, Guy, etc. team, just give them the Infinity Inc. or All-Star Squadron title. Or some other lesser known name. I wanted Justice League international to feel like an actual global team dealing with global issues. Private firms, Checkmate, DEO, terrorism, crisis' that can't be punched out. Not a riff off of Giffen's League or Lost Generation. The stuff teams like Thunder Agents were handling, but on a larger scale.


Less Giffen, more Ellis.

Less Winnick or Jurgens, more Trautmann or even Spencer on his A game.

WANTS JUSTICE LEAGUE INYERNATIONAL

DOESNT WANT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL

cmon man

[JaggedFel]

WANTS JUSTICE LEAGUE INYERNATIONAL

DOESNT WANT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF JUSTICE LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL

cmon man

IMO, his position is the past purpose of the team does not match up with the name. I some what agree when I hear international I expect to see a diverse group dealing with international problems and interacting with governments and agencies. Not a team that is almost all white americans with an alien.

[shingi70]

IMO, his position is the past purpose of the team does not match up with the name. I some what agree when I hear international I expect to see a diverse group dealing with international problems and interacting with governments and agencies. Not a team that is almost all white americans with an alien.

Honestly haven't read Justice League Inter national but that was part of the joke and that it was just a lot of white people who were born in other countries. I mean technically fire is Brazilian even though she's white right.

Not that uncommon. Does suck that Batwing now isn't on a team.


Also kind of funny how omac has only been in 8 issues of each of his starring roles.

[JaggedFel]

Honestly haven't read Justice League Inter national but that was part of the joke and that it was just a lot of white people who were born in other countries. I mean technically fire is Brazilian even though she's white right.

Not that uncommon. Does suck that Batwing now isn't on a team.


Also kind of funny how omac has only been in 8 issues of each of his starring roles.

Yeah but Brazil is not that different from the US in terms of demographics so her being Brazilian tells you little racially.

IMO, yeah no Batwing would suck.

Interesting to see what they replace this with though.

Yeah that is interesting. Bad Luck. Still I think he is okay, he seems liked by the powers that the be.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

While I myself have touted guys like Trautmann, Costa, and Ellis as a good fit for one 'tone' of a good JLI book, you're wrong to dismiss Giffen.

Giffen has VERY much in common with Ellis, Hickman, Trautmann, Costa, etc. His work on Legion, and LEGION, and Doom Patrol, etc had a lot of intricate politics.

Yeah, in retrospect, I should have brought up the Justice League era he was a part of, instead of the writer himself. That's what I originally meant.

[paulski]

the idea in essence was good but the execution lacking
from the team, the characterization the overall direction

it just Failed


True. Thanks, Dan Jurgens.:mad:

Pretty much.

I was looking forward to it, but only lasted one issue after being blown away by how utterly bland the book was.

[SteveGus]

Standard superhero fare and dark superhero fare seem to be the norm. What's really lacking is lighter toned material.

I am heartily sick and tired of having standard superhero books and originally light or whimsical concepts turning into dark books in nuDC. Dial H is inappropriately dark. Wonder Woman is inappropriately dark. Most incredibly of all, Captain Marvel is inappropriately dark.

Reversing this direction in a number of particulars is probably going to determine whether I continue to read DC at all.

[MetalWoman]

I am heartily sick and tired of having standard superhero books and originally light or whimsical concepts turning into dark books in nuDC. Dial H is inappropriately dark. Wonder Woman is inappropriately dark. Most incredibly of all, Captain Marvel is inappropriately dark.

Reversing this direction in a number of particulars is probably going to determine whether I continue to read DC at all.

OMAC was a light hearted comic book. It got canceled despite being very good. Despite what some people say, there really is not a demand for light hearted comic books.

Metal Woman

[Silverfortress]

I'm sorry if this has been fleshed out already - but can anyone comprehend why this book was cancelled. Sure, it wasn't exactly getting good reviews but its sales were well above many of DC's other 52 books - it some cases double. Is it going to be relaunched into another series? Maybe no one knows outside of DC's inner sanctum, but it just seems strange to me particularly as it seemed to be getting a new lease of life with the inclusion of new characters such as Batwing and appearances from OMAC...

Hopefully all will be revealed soon...:confused:

[Vic Vega]

For all this titles' flaws, it still was a better book than the Johns/Lee Justice League book.

Oh well, looks like the only DC team book, I'll be reading is Legion from now.

[Rakzo]

I'm sorry if this has been fleshed out already - but can anyone comprehend why this book was cancelled. Sure, it wasn't exactly getting good reviews but its sales were well above many of DC's other 52 books - it some cases double. Is it going to be relaunched into another series? Maybe no one knows outside of DC's inner sanctum, but it just seems strange to me particularly as it seemed to be getting a new lease of life with the inclusion of new characters such as Batwing and appearances from OMAC...

Hopefully all will be revealed soon...:confused:

The title was actually getting solid reviews (Not great, nor terrible) that were saying the title was nice straight up superhero team book. The problem is that it did'nt fit with DC's new direction for the JL titles, I suppose it will get relaunched with a new cast and named Justice League Elite, Justice League Edge or something like that.


For all this titles' flaws, it still was a better book than the Johns/Lee Justice League book.

Oh well, looks like the only DC team book, I'll be reading is Legion from now.

Hey, I like JLI but let's be serious. The main JL book is better in writing, excitement and worldbuilding, is the title that is guiding the whole DCU.

[ArnoldoAAD]

For all this titles' flaws, it still was a better book than the Johns/Lee Justice League book.

no, its not

the best issue of JLI couldnt even compare with the worst of JL

Now compared with JL:GL thats another story but this JLI has nothing on that

[speedline]

I read JLI mainly for some Booster Gold story. I'm a bit bummed about this cancellation and do not feel the title was needing a cancellation, maybe just a creative team shakeup. The good news is I don't think DC will leave Booster out of the lineup for very long and we may end up getting a solo book out of it. The bad news is that I've already trimmed my pull list to 6 DC titles, and now this makes 5. Get on it DC.

[Kage Kisaragi]

What all did Vixen do in this series?

[ArnoldoAAD]

What all did Vixen do in this series?

she got hit and enter into a coma
thats pretty much all she did

[AstroShark]

Hoping Booster Gold shows up in a new JL series

[Space_Butler]

For all this titles' flaws, it still was a better book than the Johns/Lee Justice League book.
I know taste is subjective but YEESH.

Glad they're cancelling the book, because this is one of those titles I know I would have kept buying no matter how bad it got. Now there's at least a chance that whatever they replace it with will get a good clean start so I can buy the book because I enjoy it, not because I simply want to see what OMAC and Booster are up to.

[GoldStarz]

she got hit and enter into a coma
thats pretty much all she did

Now that's not fair, she also had a very generic line that anyone could have said in the issue where she gets blown up.

[Badger1701]

Now that's not fair, she also had a very generic line that anyone could have said in the issue where she gets blown up.

Well, I think this has answered the burning question. DC are clearly cancelling the title to replace it with a VIxen solo book by the same creative team. :biggrin:

[AdamYJ]

OMAC was a light hearted comic book. It got canceled despite being very good. Despite what some people say, there really is not a demand for light hearted comic books.

Metal Woman

True. Which is a damn shame.

I still miss OMAC.

[Frequency]

This is disappointing news but kind of saw it coming after the bombing of the Hall of Justice.

[SJNeal]

What all did Vixen do in this series?

Same thing Ice & Fire did.


she got hit and enter into a coma
thats pretty much all she did

Like I said, same thing Ice & Fire did... :frown:

[custodes]

I like this book. How about keep this book and if you want to cancil anything...cancil Rob Liefeld at DC.

[Fate's Faith]

Like I said, same thing Ice & Fire did... :frown:

You know what I hated about that... absolutely on the team for no reason if you can just hospitalize them for so long. That to me is not an example of someone wanting to write about Vixen, Fire and Ice.