Mighty Thor/Journey into Mystery

[Phelpzy]

I have read factions run of Thor until the title split into two books. Lil LOki I think is a good concePt, are the two titles worth reading though? Thors my favorite of the Big 3 and I don't gt any of the 3s titles anymore thought I'd change that, mighty Thor and Journey worth it?

[Lady_Alternate]

To me, Journey Into Mystery is presently the single best Marvel title going - and I'm not the only one to hold that opinion.

[Movieartman]

its a little mixed the first arc of the mighty thor THE GALACTUS SEED was fun as hell had great art work by the returning Oliver Coipel.
the next arc with tanarus witch was a direct fallow up to fear itself was goodish but i only suggest buying it if you really like thor or if your want to know exactly how he returned after fear itself. the arc that just started last week with amora coming back and thease nightmare creatures looks to pretty cool. but coming soon starting in july thor and JITM will cross over for an arc called Evreything Burns, it will contain the return of Surtur and loki might go bad again

[CTpitch]

To me, Journey Into Mystery is presently the single best Marvel title going - and I'm not the only one to hold that opinion.

Journey into mystery is the best title marvel is making right now
every poster that will like/recommend JiM will say its the best title marvel is doing

[dbcb314]

I would get both.

I dont' think JIM is the best thing going to marvel but it is really good if you like that sort of thing. It is definitely a different book.

I personally really like Might Thor.

[Hulk_Is]

Well, as regards to Mighty Thor, Oliver Coipel's artwork saved the first arc (6 issues, "The Galactus Seed"), but the Tanarus arc was tightly written although Matt Fraction seemed kind of pressed for time (?). Some preview pages from the upcoming arc looks to have the 'unreadable' sort of Matt Fraction dialogue, but I won't knock it until I've read it. Personally, I'm not planning on dropping the book because I like Thor and the book does deal with Asgardians in a way that I like.

I find JIM to be unreadable - although that's mainly due to the lead children content.

[CTpitch]

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I think JIM is the best thing going to marvel it is really good if you like that sort of thing. It is definitely a different book.


couldn't have said anything better myself

[Lady_Alternate]

I find JIM to be unreadable - although that's mainly due to the lead children content.

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/lstn_natalie/JourneyIntoMystery625_1322829845475.jpg

[One More Day]

Mighty Thor has been terrible under Fraction, but a Journey Into Mystery title without THOR? That's just appalling. :mad:

[Awesome!]

I would probably buy JiM at 3.99. I wouldn't buy mighty thor at 2.99.

[Lady_Alternate]

Mighty Thor has been terrible under Fraction, but a Journey Into Mystery title without THOR? That's just appalling. :mad:

You don't read it, so you don't know the wonder. It's the better Asgardian book.

[Hulk_Is]

http://i455.photobucket.com/albums/qq277/lstn_natalie/JourneyIntoMystery625_1322829845475.jpg

Case in point. -_-

[The Bug Eyed Voice]

Mighty Thor has been terrible under Fraction, but a Journey Into Mystery title without THOR? That's just appalling. :mad:

But it's not the first time. Thor wasn't in the first 82 issues of Journey Into Mystery either...

[The_Ronin]

Case in point. -_-

You find that unreadable?

different strokes I guess.

[Lady_Alternate]

Case in point. -_-

Gran'pa don't like it when us "darn kids" get all up in his "funnybooks". :wink:

[LeonardEugenius]

Journey Into Mystery is a luxury vehicle whereas The Mighty Thor is a station wagon

[Post Monster]

Journey Into Mystery is a luxury vehicle whereas The Mighty Thor is a station wagon

A luxury vehicle with fuzzy dice and stash of candy in the glove compartment. There might even be a companion cube in the back seat.

[plushbug]

I would probably buy JiM at 3.99. I wouldn't buy mighty thor at 2.99.LOL! Can't beat that for succinct.

JIM has been really, really good, all the way up to brilliant a lot of the time for readers with a taste for the kind of verbal richness Gillen dishes out, and the unlikely ensemble cast...his Loki's a terrifically likeable kid, but we've also had Leah, Mephisto, Hela, several Disir, Garm, the Hel-Wolf and now Hel-puppy Thorri, and hey, Thor was around through the Fear Itself issues, and he's shown up in Loki's nightmares a couple of times since (I still want a Cadaver Thor cuddle doll!) BUT as discussed in one of the several recent threads about it here, it's more like a Vertigo title, than a mainstream Marvel superhero book. So love it as I do, recommend it as I will, it's not going to be every reader's cuppa.

TMT, on the other hand...Galactus Seed had Coipel's gorgeous artwork to slide on, after its first 2 or 3 issues started decompressing down to the ridiculous mess that caused me literally to frame #6 as one of the most awesomely promising and ultimately deceptive covers I've ever seen, and then drop the book flat.

That said, I'm not unhopeful about the upcoming "Everything Burns" crossover, because I'm thinking that if there's any way to marry up Fraction's ideas with Gillen's craftsmanship, that could rock.

[CTpitch]

I would give Journey into mystery my firstborn

[Post Monster]

We've all raved about Gillen, but to be honest, I think Loki is as much a reason for me to love JiM. Everything is better with some Loki, and Loki is a stronger character than Thor. Trickster Loki with a healthy dash of child-like glee is just irresistible.

[custodes]

To me, Journey Into Mystery is presently the single best Marvel title going - and I'm not the only one to hold that opinion.

The writing is amazing. The characters seem real. Stories make you feel something. Great book!


Mighty Thor has been terrible under Fraction, but a Journey Into Mystery title without THOR? That's just appalling. :mad:

What is appalling is dissing a book you never read. How do I know you never read it. Because, it is brilliant!


Gran'pa don't like it when us "darn kids" get all up in his "funnybooks". :wink:

Easy there youngster. If you behave we'll let you stay up 'til 10:00pm Friday night. It's not a school day.:eek:


Gillen is the man!

[Frodo-X]

Love Journey Into Mystery. It's my favorite ongoing book right now.

Don't read The Mighty Thor. Read two arcs of Thor by Fraction and they just did not work for me, so I dropped it.

I'll be picking it up for the Everything Burns event, which I'm hoping is more like JiM than TMT, and then dropping it again.

[Sabertooth88]

where is a good jumping on point for both these books?

[Lady_Alternate]

where is a good jumping on point for both these books?

622 is the ideal jump on point for Journey Into Mystery. If going back so far is a little daunting, then 632 forms a more recent jump-on point, being an interlude issue with a brief recap of the last year at the front.

[custodes]

where is a good jumping on point for both these books?

Worth getting the whole series (so far.) Think they just ended a story though so, next month new(sort of) but, full of continuity. This little 16 year old is manipulating the entire Marvel Universe with his schemes. Plans within plans. Plots galore. He loves puppies. And he is lovable too. Gillen is the key.

I just picked it up midstory one day and have not regretted it.

[plushbug]

where is a good jumping on point for both these books?We got into this recently for JIM over here (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?409852-Good-jumping-on-point-for-Journey-into-Mystery)

Really looking forward to start of new arc next issue.

[Phelpzy]

Now I want to get JiM but sadly it starts at 632 on Comixology. Plan on purchasing Factions Thor and Moghty Thor then purchase JiM when Comix gets off there ass and puts back issues up, my one down fall of being digital :(,

[themortalfist]

I would give Journey into mystery my firstborn

Yes. I love this title so much I'm even going to have to pick up New Mutants, and I dislike mutants ;)

Also, sorry about Bride maybe being burned to a toasty crisp in Defenders. Crossing my finger it ain't so.

[CTpitch]

Also, sorry about Bride maybe being burned to a toasty crisp in Defenders. Crossing my finger it ain't so.

omg it better not happen :frown: she is the future of the Marvel franchise

[superchick]

The World Eaters is OK. The human characters provide most of the entertainment in it.

The Galactus Seed is just a big Asgardian punch up, boring.

Tanarus was irrelevant in the long run. Biding time until Thor could come back to life. Thor stood around for most of the issues contemplating his existence.

[Hockstatter]

Im not big into the Asgard side of Marvel but love JIM because of Gillen. He's one witty limey. JIM feels like Sandman for kids which is a delight. I'd prefer his arcs never crossover with Thor and remain mostly standalone like the Hellstrom arc but alas.

[Kieran_Frost]

I have read factions run of Thor until the title split into two books. Lil LOki I think is a good concePt, are the two titles worth reading though? Thors my favorite of the Big 3 and I don't gt any of the 3s titles anymore thought I'd change that, mighty Thor and Journey worth it?
Journey into Mystery is a rare gem, and definitely one of Marvel's best titles right now. It's clever, epic, funny, moving. Uncanny X-force, Thunderbolts and Journey into Mystery are the comics I would 100% recommend everyone should try. :smile:

[Post Monster]

Now I want to get JiM but sadly it starts at 632 on Comixology. Plan on purchasing Factions Thor and Moghty Thor then purchase JiM when Comix gets off there ass and puts back issues up, my one down fall of being digital :(,
Uggh, I know. They keep taking the old arcs down, which IMO is a mistake. I'm still waiting on them to finished adding the massive gap in FF so I can finish buying it.

[plushbug]

Now I want to get JiM but sadly it starts at 632 on Comixology. Plan on purchasing Factions Thor and Moghty Thor then purchase JiM when Comix gets off there ass and puts back issues up, my one down fall of being digital :(,632 is still a good place to start. :biggrin: It has Hel-puppies.

[Phelpzy]

632 is still a good place to start. :biggrin: It has Hel-puppies.

Speaking of JiM comixology is adding 622-626 this week! Hoping on on payday, along with Mighty Thor and finally finishing Uncanny XForce since there also adding the issues they don't have :) very good week

[Hypestyle]

Why does Thor support Loki, knowing what he will grow up to be (again)?

[spursevere]

Why does Thor support Loki, knowing what he will grow up to be (again)?

Because Thor always believes that his brother will redeem himself

(plus Fraction never explained Thor's reasoning behind bringing Loki back, other than he "misses" him. The end.
Gillen, on the other hand, explained that the Old Loki was tired of his endless cycle of evil and was hoping the Child Loki would not trod down the same path).

The difference in quality of writing could not be any clearer. Fraction made me do the unthinkable, i.e. drop Thor.

Thank Odin for Gillen.

[plushbug]

Why does Thor support Loki, knowing what he will grow up to be (again)?I wouldn't say that Thor knows Loki will grow up to be the same again.

The reasoning given for his bringing Loki back in the first place--in-story, it's that post-Siege, he's finding things really bleak, misses his brother, and feels that "All this loss wouldn't be so bad to bear were I granted someone to bear it with. Someone of my blood, of my flesh." Which is straight out of World Eaters and makes me want to get up and go bang my head on the wall, because it'd be less painful. The imagery makes it clear Thor is fixing his attention back on that golden time in boyhood when "He made me laugh like no one else alive," was charming and clever and he was never happier than when they were out hunting together, yadda, yadda...which I could buy, and love the idea of getting back to a more balanced view of Loki as a trickster god, except for the setup being demented. As in, we have Thor fixating on the boy he remembers with such affection (OK, fine) and deciding to bring him back (OK, could be understandable--even more understandable, if we were, say, ever given any clue that at the point in Siege when Loki face turns and supports Asgard's defenders, anything of his apparent shock and contrition had made it back to Thor--I mean, the elder Loki's a world-class telepath, all the way back to the '60s) BUT we also have him doing this

(a) at a point when his people haven't as much as been able to hold the funerals for the dead from Siege,
(b) the people whose views on the matter he should be showing the most consideration for, he 100% disregards, and
(c) given his apparent surprise at getting Loki back as a boy, it seems he may be expecting to get him back as the adult who died, in other words, just like all the other Asgardians he's brought back during JMS' run, essentially the same person he was, before death, ie., destructive and crazy, urgh, it's demented.

Totally inconsistent with JMS' Thor, who's smart enough to be worried about bringing Loki back, and initially determined not to do it. Staggeringly stupid and selfish in terms of any previous Thor, and the whole "of my blood, of my flesh" bit is horrendous, given he's saying this to Balder, :eek: who actually is his blood half-brother!? So it ends up being what I would now call the classic Fraction ram-through of the Big Idea, no matter how it violates any previous rendering of character or anything resembling continuity. And the pity is, if there could have been as much as one panel to suggest this weren't happening immediately after Siege, like say, after Thor had had a month or two immersed in the daily grimness of digging out Asgard's ruins, in which to stew over the possibility of Loki having died contrite over his actions, and the general nastiness of having anyone he's ever loved atomized in front of him (think PTSD, here!) it could have been...much more sellable. Which it's ended up being, because kid!Loki has in fact been such a genuinely great Big Idea, that at least the body of JIM readers are cheerfully willing to buy him :smile: including me, I still think he's the best thing anybody's ever done with the Trickster, but :frown: sadly, it remains what it is. In story terms, a duct-tape bridge over a chasm of total incredibility.

So at the low end of the continuum of possible answers, one could say

"Thor supports Loki because he's a real dumb bunny..."

and at the high end one might say

"Thor supports Loki because he's a stuffy and often over-serious god of order who's grown wise enough through experience to understand (whether or not he can express the thought) that he needs his wild-card little god of chaos brother in the world to lighten things up and keep everybody from dying of boredom."

I do like Gillen's ideas, laid down in JIM #622, about the elder Loki having engineered the whole thing because what he'd become was intolerable...and persist in hoping that given our current Loki knows about that, he'll be able to escape that fate this time.

All to be determined...

[Phelpzy]

I'm Absouletly loving what I've read of JiM so far, my new question is does it tie heavly into Mighty Thor? Cause Im not reading Thor, I'm on 626 of JiM and wanna keep reading unless I need to read Mighty Thor beside it

[Nissus]

I'm Absouletly loving what I've read of JiM so far, my new question is does it tie heavly into Mighty Thor?

Not really. Only in the future crossover, starting in #642.

[Phelpzy]

Not really. Only in the future crossover, starting in #642.

Thanks, guess I'll just get Mighty Thor during the crossover, I can't stand Factions Thor, his take on Thor is hard to put up with

[plushbug]

I'm Absouletly loving what I've read of JiM so far, my new question is does it tie heavly into Mighty Thor? Cause Im not reading Thor, I'm on 626 of JiM and wanna keep reading unless I need to read Mighty Thor beside itNo need, they're separate threads. No overlap that matters to the JIM story.