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Middenway
04-27-2012, 09:30 PM
I was reading The Abyssal Plain last night when I saw this:
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Which looks quite a bit like the mummy of "He Who Unleashes the Fire of Heaven," Rascar Capac.
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I always appreciate a good Tintin reference.

UnravThreads
04-28-2012, 01:12 AM
You've got some sharp eyes there!

thwhtGuardian
04-28-2012, 06:05 PM
Ha, that's pretty awesome! Tin Tin is one of those comics I always mean to get into but never manage to pick up. I liked the cartoon as a kid and I loved the movie so I hope I'll get around to actually reading it one of these days.

Jr. Wormwood
04-28-2012, 08:16 PM
Wow. Good eye, Middenway!


Ha, that's pretty awesome! Tin Tin is one of those comics I always mean to get into but never manage to pick up. I liked the cartoon as a kid and I loved the movie so I hope I'll get around to actually reading it one of these days.

I've never read or seen any of the TinTin stuff, but I've got a good friend who's super into it. Been meaning to remedy my lack of knowledge on the character/subject. Think I'll do that tonight!

thwhtGuardian
04-28-2012, 10:05 PM
Wow. Good eye, Middenway!



I've never read or seen any of the TinTin stuff, but I've got a good friend who's super into it. Been meaning to remedy my lack of knowledge on the character/subject. Think I'll do that tonight!

As I said, I've never read any of the books but I can't recommend the movie enough. It has that almost magical 80's Spielberg feel to it that just makes you smile to see it.

Middenway
04-29-2012, 09:08 PM
I forgot how unfamiliar Tintin is to Americans! The mummy of Rascar Capac is from the two-part story The Seven Crystal Balls and Prisoners of the Sun. And its damn good.

thwhtGuardian
04-29-2012, 10:34 PM
Yeah, he's a rarity here. Other than an obscure cartoon that aired on HBO in the early 90's and the recent film I don't think he's had much exposure over here at all.

Middenway
04-29-2012, 10:35 PM
It's hard to imagine. Tintin and Asterix are practically required reading in primary school. Most Australians are far more likely to have read them than any Marvel or DC characters (Yes, even Batman).

the goddamn batman
04-30-2012, 06:08 PM
I disagree. we used to read Tin Tin in elementary school all the time.
I am 32, so maybe that isn't the case anymore, but it was then.

Middenway
04-30-2012, 06:17 PM
I disagree. we used to read Tin Tin in elementary school all the time.
I am 32, so maybe that isn't the case anymore, but it was then.
You're lucky then. Most Americans I've spoken to seem to confuse Tintin with Rin Tin Tin (or if they do recognise the comic, they think Snowy is Tintin). I've never understood why most Americans write "Tin Tin" or "TinTin" instead of "Tintin" either. It's written like any other name, as one word with a single capital at the beginning. (Keep in mind, this is coming from a huge Tintin fan though)

I can't recommend Tintin enough, though it's probably better if you grew up with it. And Asterix is pretty damn awesome too, especially the first 24 when René Goscinny was writing them.

Angilas-Man
04-30-2012, 06:20 PM
I've read a couple of Tintin albums and, although I liked them, they didn't... grab me, you know? Should give them another short.

Love Asterix, though.

Middenway
04-30-2012, 06:53 PM
I just started collecting the Asterix omnibuses with the restored artwork. They're really brilliant, though unfortunately the hardcovers are already out of print. It's madness. Omnibuses belong in hardcover, not paperback.

Angilas-Man
05-01-2012, 07:13 AM
I'm buying 'em now, too! I had to get 1 and 2 in softcover because the hardbacks where already OOP, but I've been quick to buy the subsequent ones close to the release dates for the hardcovers.

Jr. Wormwood
05-01-2012, 10:03 AM
Ah, appreciate the correction on the spelling of Tintin :) That fore-mentioned friend of mine is letting my borrow his collection. Looking forward to getting into these!

And I will have to look into Asterix as well.

Middenway
05-01-2012, 05:38 PM
I'm buying 'em now, too! I had to get 1 and 2 in softcover because the hardbacks where already OOP, but I've been quick to buy the subsequent ones close to the release dates for the hardcovers.
I'm rather stubbornly trying to find volumes 1, 2 and 11 despite being out-of-print, but it looks like 11 (which was oddly the first one printed back in 2007) is unobtainable. It's a minimum of $999 just to get a used copy. O__O Still, the paperbacks aren't going anywhere, so I'll hold out a while longer. But omnibuses are not meant to be paperbacks. I don't know what Orion was thinking. Beautiful editions like these should be in hardcover.

Ah, appreciate the correction on the spelling of Tintin :)I'm glad. I felt like a bit of an ass mentioning it though. I'll be interested to hear what you think of both Tintin and Asterix.

Middenway
05-03-2012, 06:43 AM
I'm buying 'em now, too! I had to get 1 and 2 in softcover because the hardbacks where already OOP, but I've been quick to buy the subsequent ones close to the release dates for the hardcovers.
I finally tracked down volume 2 in hardcover and bought it for a very good price. But the really tough one is going to be volume 1.

UPDATE: Or not! Just got an email from a second hand bookstore that's tracked it down in new condition, and they're selling for less than the recommended retail price! :biggrin: Now I just gotta get volume 11...

Angilas-Man
05-03-2012, 10:29 AM
^The image of Asterix and Obelix when you line up all the spines will match up perfectly!

:wink:

Middenway
05-03-2012, 04:40 PM
Damn. I jinxed it. Got a whole lot of emails with various reasons as to why each place thought they had these books, but do not. :frown:

thwhtGuardian
05-03-2012, 06:08 PM
That's always sad, I found some decently priced copies of the Tintin stories you recommended and am now awaiting their arrival. I love tax return time, it gives me much more spending money.

Kees_L
05-04-2012, 04:20 AM
According to a study as published in The Lancet in 1999, (Thierry Appelboom & Julien Struyven: "Medical imaging of the Peruvian mummy Rascar Capac") Hergé drew his mummy faithfully after an actual mummy as excavated from the America's (Peru apparently) and displayed at a Brussels museum in his time. With Brussels being Hergé's hometown of course.

More than once I've come across South American type of mummy references without Hergé getting referred to, references to mummies as not through embalming or wrapping but as by roping such remains tightly together into a sitting upright albeit slouched position, with hands placed in order to be supporting or solidifying the neck and head, giving such remains a more rather busy or either frantic appearance instead of restful.

So besides it being a comic book reference, I'd say the mummy depiction or either any of the artifacts or historical references found in either Hellboy or the B.P.R.D., may refer to famous historic museal or scientific actual finds dating from Victorian times or either whenever.

The slab the military dude is holding seems familiar, as does the Phoenixy Phoenician-y sfinxy winged action figure, or either the especially dogeared Moai statue for example.

Mignola's Hellboy-related works will likely be notorious for being so richly and profoundly referencing historical lore throughout, I'd be to think. In a sense of which readers may or may not be aware, which I think is very cool.

Needless to say won't only 'science fiction' or either but boring educational books be laden with the power of potentially seeming factually realistical or 'correct' - since literally any book or piece of fiction will have that. Even the most unscrutinous fairy-tales or ghost stories, Santa Claus or be it The Little Engine That Could, any such is produced or offered as being truely realistical in its own way.
Itsy Bitsy Spider didn't have it easy for a matter of fact, but did such manage to be keeping Itsy down? Getting wet doesn't kill and neither do waterspouts, ordinarily, anybody knowing such may be capable of accomplishing everything.
Although pulling off being nifty or cool about anything at all will be a feat of but the buffest proportions I'd feel :cool:.

Middenway
05-04-2012, 05:56 AM
The slab the military dude is holding seems familiarI thought so too. I know I've seen the other things in various places, but I couldn't figure out where I saw that slab. Is it something we've seen in Hellboy before?

Kees_L
05-04-2012, 07:24 AM
I thought so too. I know I've seen the other things in various places, but I couldn't figure out where I saw that slab. Is it something we've seen in Hellboy before?

Well, I seem to remember that Abe Sapien has been gotten called or referenced towards as "son of Dagon".
And the fishy dude on the slab resembles how at one time this character 'Dagon' or 'Dagan' got depicted as on some relic, being an Assyric / Phoenician / Sumer / Canaanite (old) God (like Zeus or Hades or Neptune) as head of the Middle-Eastern pantheon team (although as seeming even more old-school than any Zeus or Hades, this Dagon seems more potentially forbidden or pissy somehow. Seeming no surprise with them kinda pants).

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So apparently also way back, before any bibles or either Sci-Fi let alone Lovecraft, folks could be digging fishy steampunky stuff as much as the next guy already you could think. I bet they would have liked metal too quite a bit :cool:. Not Lovecraft 'though, I bet he would complain frantically over any loud music or hairyness. High-strung both as pitched. I don't know why.

And for earlier Dagon references Hellboy-wise I'd think it likely it would be something-a-do with Abe?

Middenway
05-09-2012, 10:13 PM
Hopefully my luck is changing. The second Asterix Omnibus arrived today and the first is on its way!