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03-22-2012, 08:20 PM
I was last here 2yrs ago. For those of you who remembered me saying I never return to the website after sharing my Screenplay Synopses, but I’m making an exception for CBR because someone urged me to. She didn’t say why, but here I am.
I’ll stick around for less than a week........
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HOW TO CREATE THE ULTIMATE WONDER WOMAN MOVIE
by Brett Jett
[Superman stands in the rain as Wonder Woman walks away from him.]
Superman: "When will you be back?"
[She stops, and says over her shoulder...]
Wonder Woman: "I don't know."
[Then with a crackle of thunder, flies off, disappearing into the rainy sky.]
---Scene from episode, "Paradise Lost", of the animated Justice League show...January 21, 2002.
The scene above symbolizes what's happened to Wonder Woman in Mainstream all these years. She shall return, not so much with her movie, but with her Renaissance which I predict will come right before her movie finally debuts.
In a way, I'm very very glad that Wonder Woman's movie has not come out yet, after all these long awaiting years. Why? Because of the present state of Mainstream's understanding of Wonder Woman is very very faulty, and hence, a WW movie now would turn out to be crappy. With the upcoming GREEN LANTERN movie, I hope it doesn't give the green light for other DC movies to just come flowing in so soon!...especially not Wonder Woman! She, above all other characters, requires more deft, time to prepare, & thought put into it. Therefore, her movie needs to be the very LAST individual superhero film that DC/Warner showcases in, what I heard was, their all-star line up of upcoming movies. I would even suggest that they do the JLA movie before doing WW. This not only sets up Mainstream audiences to accept WW by burning them out on violence glorification, but would give writers/producers enough time to plan & do the WW right this time around...and learn from their mistakes with the Bruce Timm Animated WW movie (BTAWM).
Since its her very first movie, it just HAS to be done right. But how does one judge what is right? What is the objective of such a movie? That's why I've written this quick guide for you fans to follow along, to judge if Hollywood is doing the right thing or not in regards to her first movie. And to help all you young writers out there who may end up being the one who writes the official movie script. Just save this article in your flashdrive or something. Use it.
And to keep you from getting initially bored, I'll start the guide out with my solution of how to best create the ultimate Wonder Woman script (III)...and then the other parts of the guide come next. Here are the contents:
I.)-----PURPOSE of a good, genuine WW movie.
II.)----PROBLEMS......why its been difficult.
III.)---How To Create The Ultimate WW Screenplay.
IV.)---Other Solutions......what else has to happen.
V.)----REVIEWS......of past WW productions.
03-22-2012, 08:21 PM
III.} How To Create The Ultimate WW Screenplay (that serves its intended purpose) ---
The script is the most crucial part if Wonder-Euphoria is to outshine Bat-Mania. Well, to create the ULTIMATE Wonder Woman movie, you'd simply use my screenplay. But...I'd never allow that unless I was given full creative control, a million dollars upfront, and all of it in writing...my script is too precious to me. So since I'm not likely to surrender my script, the next best thing for Hollywood to do is gather a team of writers to come up with an appropriate script that is true to the mythos & would serve the movie's purpose. Why a team instead of just one or two writers? Becuz as you know, WW, above all other DC characters, is the most complicated and requires extra careful handling...otherwise you end up a piece of crap like BTAWM. Even if Hollywood hired me to do the script, I would still require another person to help co-write, if for nothing else than to shave my long screenplay down to 2-3 hours.
Here is the formula for the plan-of-action to create the ultimate WW screenplay:
1* Put together a team of writers
There shouldn't be too many writers, becuz they'd get in the way of each other's creative progress, but definitely more than 2 writers. A good number is 5 writers.
They way it'd work is one person is the main writer who pens the bulk of it. The other writers would help construct the overall story, while the main writer puts it all in the best words, making the final decisions of what goes in the screenplay. The team of writers would have to have at least someone who is: a martial artist or someone knowledgeable in warfare...a PUA...an expert in symbols & allegories...and just one woman.
All of this is to give the required perspectives needed to construct the ultimate WW script. It doesn't matter who has what talent, as long as those minimum talents are there on the team. But each writer must be totally interested in the original concept, to seeing the real WW unfold on the silver screen. And the main writer must at least be someone on the team with the most talent for crafting the script. You may want to include someone who is polyglot, just to help inject into the movie some other languages that WW speaks. You don't necessarily need an expert in Greek mythology, becuz WW's has a specific context of Greek myth that only requires a writer to be able to work well with allegories...creating'em, recognizing'em, etc. Besides, WW isn't even about Classical Greek mythology. Also, one of the writers must monitor & edit from the sidelines, keeping track to make sure whatever the group comes up with makes sense & that they're not missing anything. Everyday, each writer must have WW on the brain 24/7.
I would also advise to have Pete Marston be the team's consultant...this is also a way for Pete to make amends for his father's racist tones, even tho Dr. Marston wasn't really a racist himself.
According to some samples of writers whose works I've reviewed in the last 2 years, I would say J.Michael Straczynski is a good mainstream candidate for being the main writer for the team of WW script writers. Not David Goyer, not Gail Simone, and certainly not Jelenic.
Even before the team starts penning the script, they should all have a short period of familiarization of the original WW concepts. Since WW's mythos was esoteric to only WMM, it behooves them to study up on it & make it their own, if they expect to create the ultimate WW script! They can do this a number of ways, or in combo. First, I highly advise that they save time and just read all my articles, which would them up to speed. They could also read thru all the Marston chronicles, but...with an informed eye, taking notes, getting the feel of the mythos, imagining how they could properly adapt the spirit of the original into the modern world & adapt WMM's mythology into a mythical film genre. This is why a PUA on the team would help, since he'd best recognize the sexual allegories. I would recommend they read my articles first, then do the chronicle read-thru. The preceding advice is based on the wise maxim, "You can't know where you're going until you know where you've been".
They should not make George Perez's mistake by consulting with feminists or any ol' woman...rather, they should talk to Pete Marston.
3* Promotion & proper Set-up.
Well, promotion is meant to give the movie an extra "Pow!" by hyping people up to accept it & go see it several times, not only for the purpose of revenue, but to serve its main purpose of knocking people out of their conventional train of thought & away from violence glorification. And the best way to do that is probably naturally being done right now...holding off on making a WW movie for a while in order to psychologically, properly set it up for acceptance. Maybe even showcase her in a JLA movie first. You see, our culture is now in a state of frenzied hunger for violent entertainment. So how is a WW movie going to succeed in capturing such an audience's interest? Thru psychological nudging. Hollywood should load up on the gore, violence, & anti-heroes in the media to its highest peak, playing itself out....to the point where audiences will be so burnt out on that stuff. So that by the time a WW movie does come out, people will be stoked about WW as a much-welcomed change...the light at the end of the tunnel!! Which would also be spiritually appropriate, as that is the effect WW was meant to have in a world torn by the hatreds & wars of men.
And once the movie is made, further promotions need to continue riding this newfound need for a change. Chief among the ways is the TV airing of the first true WW documentary that analyzes the character like never before...a deep tribute to WW. It should be aired weeks before the movie comes out. One segment in the documentary should involve Hippolyta playing out the scene of molding baby Diana & it coming to life. Since its a bad idea for Lynda Carter to play Hippolyta in the movie (she's too distracting & old), then as a tribute to fans' longing, she should play Hippolyta in the documentary scene...if not, as a skit at the movie awards or something...but such a short scene should be aired on TV. Fans everywhere, old & new, would be delighted with tears, guaranteed!
03-22-2012, 08:21 PM
4* Guideline for the actual script story.
Well, I say that my storyline is the best way to go...where Mars/Ares is responsible for the creation of the various subsequent villains that WW has to deal with (ie. Cheetah), and reform, in order to suppress the worldwide abnormal emotions levels from going past a certain point, after which Ares would rise again...and to once again pointedly show that happy endings are products of superhuman efforts to help others. But if Hollywood is to go by its own original storylines, then in order to keep it the ultimate WW script, there are certain guidelines they should be followed in order to accomplish the movie's purpose.
--First, as I've said, it should include the origin story, starting with the rival gods, becuz it ties into why she exists & the overall understanding of the character. Hence, it should be about Ares in some way. Remember, the movie's objective is to finally introduce the real WW to the world, and set things straight.
--DO NOT go the way of the THOR movie. WW & Thor are two distinctly different worlds. His gods are actually metahumans, while WW's gods were meant to be spirits of nature. The powers in Thor's world are based on advanced science, while the ones in hers is based on the mythical power of emotions...Love, hate, rage, etc.
--The Gods....their handling makes a huge difference in the mythos. Don't mess with them like Perez did. Becuz they represent what themes are in WW...Love vs Malevolence. There's a good reason why Aphrodite should remain the main patron goddess. Remember, these are Marstonial gods, not Classical. Oh, and Ares should not be shown as a suave Englishman...he should be a thug with a Brooklyn accent.
--Her baseline POWERS must come from Venusian Brain Energy, not gods...Otherwise you risk her being more like a female Captain Marvel.
--Incarnation....In spite of all the variety of starkly different WW versions, the way to do it is to do what I did...go back to the original, but update it.
--Going by the original concept would include having the sexual themes. As to how one can adapt it to a general audience without being risque...GET OVER IT! Its as simple as that. Wertham died in 1981. So let's go back to basics, shall we? Besides, even classical Geek mythology has always had themes of rape, murder, incest, and plenty of sex!
--No tie-ins to JLA......Movies like Green Lantern or THE FLASH will be viewed mostly by fan...but WW is an icon that will be viewed by many different peeps, and they need to be told the basics, and not get caught up in the continuity of the JLA which is fanboy stuff. We can have two different Wonder Women for each movie.
--Genre/Mood......I'd advise going my route, which is to make it a mythically mystical epic, which would have an air of real world truth. And to stay away from the Greek mythology archaic mood. This isn't "300", its Wonder Woman. Such scenes of Ancient times should be short flashbacks.
--Element of ancient wonder......In my script, I have exciting things like secret societies, prophecies, supernatural, etc, all in their proper, meaningful place...most of the things that has been associated with Batman since Chris Nolan's 1st movie came out, but is more fitting in WW's world.
--The WB logo.....just as the MATRIX film had the WB logo all green, for WW's movie it should sparkle with bright white & silvery stars on a deep blue background.
--Modernization.....costume designers & all creative crew should be skilled not only in ancient Greek styles, but also good at modernizing. The colors should reflect WMM's theories too.
--Length.....My script is over 4 hours, but Hollywood shouldn't mind if WW's first movie reaches the 3 hour mark...its an origin story too.
--Flashbacks.....They should be well-placed & orderly, unlike the mess that was BATMAN BEGINS. And distinguish the types... ie. Ancient Greece flashbacks should be blurred & in slo-mo, while others can be done in real time speed but ethereal.
--WW actress should work with a kinesiologist....that way she'll portray her movements with more control & vigor.
--Tie the various themes with each other... ie. Steve's child abuse, rage, Ares, love, hope, taking profits from defeat, etc.
--Mind the chest emblem.....this symbol alone will determine the thematic impression that the movie has.
--Emphasize the finesse aspect of WW's powers....just has Superman mostly displays strength-force as an alpha male, it would do WW good to portray her mostly using finesseful powers, like agility, superb coordination, and SPEED (which most people underestimate).
--Focus more in on WW's quirky personality...which is something the 70's show neglected.
** As far as Lynda Carter's wish for WW to have matrimonial bliss.....sorry, no-can-do. She has a mission right now. And as Aphrodite's Law has certain stipulations you cannot circumvent. That, however, does not mean she cannot date. In my script, she & Steve secretly start dating by the beginning of my sequel. Hollywood should follow this concept. Though they cannot have sex, they do play binding games!
5* Big NO NO's.
Whatever the writers come up with, they should beware of these no-no's, if they want an ultimate WW movie:
--Don't use the =W= symbol.
--Don't use anything from the Perez Reboot, or the BTAWM...those are abominations best left forgotten.
--DO NOT CAST Lynda Carter......As much as we love her, having Lynda in the movie would distract away from its more important purpose. Lynda would be better cast in a TV show or documentary.
--Never again portray WW uttering, "Great Hera!"......It was never Marston's original exclamation, the Amazons don't worship Hera, they worship Aphrodite, and Hera just stinks of female corruption.
--Don't let Gloria Steinem near the movie screenplay rights.....self-explanatory.
--Don't hire Laeta Kalogridis as a writer......I saw her work in Bionic Woman 2, and its crap...Laeta' style is best used for someone like Samurai Girl. Her WW screenplay's concept also falls short, I'm glad it never got to production. She just really doesn't get it. WW's world is more about symbols & meanings & emotions than GREEK mythology--which would be meaningless in WW's world without the sexual-psychological concepts behind it. She assigns notions to WW that were never originally there. Not once did she consider WW's foundations.
--Don't hire Joss Whedon as a writer......My problem with Joss’ proposed story concept isn't that Steve teaches WW, but that it eliminates the focus on appetitive ego being the root of evil, and of why WW exists in the first place, and that our salvation is loving submission...and that he had it so WW is unfamiliar with such evil. Which doesn't makes sense, as she trains as a warrior & has been taught why she trains. Like Phil Jimenez, he mainly drew from the Perez Reboot. He also felt there was no iconic canon story that must be told...he was wrong...my own script's storyline proves it.
The definitive formula for a first-story WW movie is as follows: Origin story, turmoil in Man's World building up, WW's presence is a break from the usual bloodthirsty anti-hero negativity in society, WW tackling some sort of world-reaching conflict by an oppressor (Mars), freeing the people by defeating him, then telling Steve that there's still a long fight ahead to reverse the damage caused by the oppressor, and introducing/explaining significant myth elements along the way, such as Aphrodite's Law......all to help setup for the sequel, which involves her dealing with individuals from the civilian population that became villains (ie. Cheetah) as a result of the messed up world that Mars created, WW fighting them & reforming them, and continuing to propagate humanity by being a rallying point (ie. serving as a celebrity at charity functions), all in an effort to make sure Ares never rises to power again so that Aphrodite is better able to make the world submit to her.
03-22-2012, 08:22 PM
I.} PURPOSE of a good, genuine WW movie ---
In order for the very first WW to be successful by making an impact, its must have a purpose that it serves (besides gaining revenue). Why does a WW movie even exist for? Its purpose will determine how it should be written & promoted. And the purpose is:
To change minds, or at least provoke discussion...to get people buzzing about issues such as our society's lack of humanity, the fallacies of feminism, etc. All in the same tradition that WMM started with his comics...he wasn’t just advocating more love, but pointing out specifically the core of what was wrong with the world. But to make WW unique, it has to make a greater impact in our minds than other superhero movies have.
It doesn't matter if the movie disappoints some people (hopefully including femi-Nazis), as long as it makes that deep impact. And maybe femi-Nazis will finally see that WW is not who they think she is, and to go find another icon to represent them...like Catwoman.
And by portraying all of this on the silver screen, its a great way to finally honor the legacy of WMM & keep the spirit of WW alive among the general public, as they get [re-]acquainted with his philosophical & psychological contributions. In fact, he should have a cameo in the movie, as he does in my screenplay. In turn, such a movie can solve some problems that the WW character has had.
And the proper way to serve the above purpose is to follow these strategic objectives:
1* Introduce to the general public both the basics & the true details of who & what WW is really all about
In the many street surveys I've conducted, I've found that most people know next to nothing about WW. A debut movie is THE opportunity for everyone to learn things about her they've never known before...certain things never revealed by the 70’s show...basic things, like Aphrodite's Law. Once they learn the true mythos, WW's popularity will rise due to how interesting she really is.
This means having an abundance of psychological themes...it means sticking with the basics.
2* Stick to basics
By changing the mythos, you're basically insulting WMM's work toward a better world. Regardless of whatever changes they’re doing to her in the comics, the very first WW movie MUST showcase her as she was originally intended to be...that is, starting with WMM's concepts as a foundation, then modernizing it by expanding on them to show how relevant they are even today. It is not a time to explore the various alternative forms & presentations WW can have with her many facets...that's what TV shows, comics & videogames are for. The point is to introduce the basics that have been lost to time. Nothing fancy...focus on her origins, essence, her original intent & purpose. That way, everyone will finally have the basics of WW burned into their psyches, like they have with Batman, and WW will no longer have the problems of obscurity. This also means that any subsequent sequels or a JLA movie can explore any alternate version of WW, but the debut movie must stick with the original concept. Unlike movies about Green Lantern or Flash, WW is an icon that will be viewed by many different peeps, not just fans, and they need to be told the basics, and not get caught up in the continuity of the JLA.
3* Make an impact
In order for there to be multiple sequels, the first movie must make an impact on everyone. It must stir debates on real world issues, introduce things about WW that most people never knew, which in turn creates more interest in her. When ya get people talking, ya get people returning for more...not only for the film, but other WW product. Afterall, you don't want THOR to steal all the thunder, do ya?
4* Provide new dimensions
Its also an opportunity for people to really experience WW in ways that the comics & 70's show have been unable to all these years. Its far more vivid to see WW's 3-dimensional personality in a live-action film.
5* Do it right the first time.
It cheapens the impact of WW when you have to have multiple movie reboots, like Batman, just to correct the previous screenwriter's mistakes. Hence the very first movie must be done right the first time, even if her varied forms can be explored in all sequels & remakes.
6* Never take any cues from fans....about anything
I'll probably get a lot of boo's for this, but trust me, its true...its a big mistake to cater to WW fans, who are in fact the worse people to get advice from as they'll lead you down the wrong path...Their job is to enjoy, not create. The goal of the WW screenwriter or producer should never be about giving fans what they want or expect. Becuz WW fans are like women...they don't really know what they want, but they'll definitely recognize it once they get it. Instead, you the screenwriter need to MAKE the fans like it, by disregard them & focusing on staying true to the character & original concept, and then trust that all the fans will come to like it. And it may be something they never thought of or realized they'd like. That is the proper course of action.
If ya wanna consult with anybody, consult with Pete Marston and/or a WW expert (such as myself).
03-22-2012, 08:23 PM
ALSO AS A RESULT OF ACHIEVING THE ABOVE OBJECTIVES...
-WW will have more wide exposure in a truer light than the 70's show
-Sheíll be taken more seriously and less of a joke.
-Her mythos will become common knowledge
-All previous false ideas about her (ie. BTAWM) will be squashed.
-It will garner more interest & higher comics sales
The #1 purpose of WW movie:
But of all the purposes that a debut WW movie serves, the most important is one that she was originally created for...as a counterpoint to the current bloodlust so popular in society & its aggressive glorification of violence. The same attitudes that are prevalent in society today are the very attitudes rampant in WMM's day, which worshipped dominance & aggression while regarding Aphroditic values such as love, humanity, altruism, tenderness, etc, as sissy. Most people today even say that WW is an outdated sissy icon. But truth is WW was specifically designed to solve that problem, using WMM's formula: Strength-warriorhood adapted to Love-humanity. Its the timeless formula that makes Aphrodite's side cool & hip to everyone, while satisfying the need for excitement & feelings of empowerment without going over the edge toward mindless cruelty. She, above all other superheroes, is the one to re-popularize altruism. If done right, a WW movie can affect a major psychological change in pop culture...making all the violence glorification seem not so glorious after all...that there is another, better way of thinking. And when you change minds, you change the world.
03-22-2012, 08:24 PM
II.} PROBLEMS......why its been difficult ---
FIRST, I wanna briefly state that I believe there's been an underground government conspiracy to destroy the original Wonder Woman concept and sabotage attempts to get a movie out by disrupting production or making sure a crappy movie is produced, becuz such a concept is subversive to an establishment that is not conducive to such ideals of love & humanity...but rather, is the opposite which William Marston stated as being appetitively driven & ego-assertive. WW is like Neo of the Matrix. Just think of how revolutionary it'd be if everyone espoused the tenets of WW. So of course the government would try to destroy this symbol & discredit William Marston. They've tried to destroy her by causing her to be written poorly over the years, to destroy remnants of William Marston's message, and to plant sleeper agents in DC who are charged with destroying her image from the inside...even changing it all together. Well, mission accomplished, boys! SIGH.
That being said...lets get on with the other problems of why WW has had so much difficulty....
Difficulty getting a movie off the ground (ie. flying), can't decide on a script, etc. In order to come to a solution, you must know & understand what the problem is. The following is from the perspective of an indie. Iím not directly involved with the comicbook world or Mainstream, however from my own experience with Wonder Woman in earlier years as well as what I learn in my yearly internet sit-downs, the various street surveys Iíve conducted & my reviews of the various animated depictions, combined with my expert knowledge of WW, my assessment of the problem is:
I don't believe it has anything to do with misogyny. Some peeps even say Wonder Woman lacks exposure, resulting in her being lesser known & people not being able to see her full 3-dimensional extent. But then, so has Green Lantern, but now I hear he's getting his own movie. The problem also isnít so much the character herself, as some say...its how she's been portrayed. The real problem is that no writer can be found that knows WW enough to write a good enough screenplay. Plain & simple. Furthermore, there isn't enough interest in WW from the general public, due in no small part to a general lack of familiarity with her, from fans & casuals alike. And fans who deny this fact are LYING...they feel ashamed that they don't know WW as well as Batman fans know him. My message to WW fans: Its OK...its not your fault that certain aspects of WW are confusing. This lack of knowledge also in-turn affects how many writers are able to step up to the plate with their movie proposals. Also not helping things are the bad press WW has received in the last 20 years....neck snapping, man-hating, violent outbursts, etc. Its really no wonder that she hasn't had a movie this whole time.
But there are good reasons behind these compounded problems, which when explained, can then be remedied...
1.} Complex...Lack of understanding...Misrep
2.} Inching closer to Ares
3.} De-Humanizing her
4.} Modern feminists
5.} Perez Reboot
6.} Greek Mythology misguided
7.} The 70's Show
8.} MEGAN FOX: Brutality.
1* Complex esoteric mythos = Lack of understanding = Misrepresentations & false notions
Above all other factors, the lack of understanding of Wonder Woman is the main root cause of her falls from grace ever since WMM died. And an understanding is what's required if one is to do WW right, for there are only so many ways to interpret WW without violating the basic idea of the character, becuz she was more specifically created than Batman. The depth of this character requires multi-faceted understanding...and most people don't have the inclination to understand her complexity.
Wonder Woman is a special character, not becuz she's the most powerful, not becuz she's the first female superhero (which she's not), not becuz she's rooted in Greek myth, but becuz of the way she was created and why she was created. Most all superheroes were created based on simple well-known concepts in existing literature and the rest of their mythoses were imagined from scratch; and their creators just wanted to entertain & get paid. But Wonder Woman was the product of a psychologist who saw the comics medium as a way to showcase his theories. Therefore he created his mythos entirely from his psych theories & philosophies of life by allegorizing them with matching Greek Mythology archetypes--which he physio-psychologically interpreted--to dramatize them into stories specifically geared toward not only entertaining, but infecting minds on a subconscious level. As a result, his comics were full of symbols & latent meanings, giving the WW mythos detailed depth under the Greek Mythology drapings; while Superman & Batman have no such hidden depths, what you see is what you get. These esoteric concepts were not so straightforward & just too complex for other, non-psychologist writers to understand. How complex is WW?...enough to warrant an entire seminar taught by me that teaches the mythos, analyzes it, breaks it down into its many parts, and presents it to the people for deeper understanding, as if it were a classical literary piece!
So when William Marston died, WW was no longer the only shining star in the star-speckled night. DC was left bewildered with a big puzzle on their hands but without the code key, becuz William Marston never got a chance to lay out a full expose that explains his entire mythos & the process of its genesis, and he was the only one who truly understood her...it was solely his character, really. Conversely, Batman could find spiritual ownership from Bill Finger, Denny O'Neil, Bob Kane, Jerry Robinson, and many other writers, all of whom built or contributed to the Batman mythos after being fully brought onboard. Him & other superheroes still had their creators around for years to answer any questions, and many books have been written that analyzes them wide open. Of course, none of them were created from esoteric concepts, thus were more easily understood by the laymen reader. But WW comics were meant to infect your mind, whether you understood them or not. It would've been neat to have seen what the WW mythos would look like had William Marston re-written it in a more literal narrative. But without Marston's leadership, DC degraded her into a creative mess with multiple incarnations that have little in common with each other; some valid, some invalid. And when you have a character whose core isn't readily apparent, writers change her around to fit their ideologies that are far from the original concept. More illogical is why DC never hired another psychologist to come crack the code for them.
And worst of all, fans are left to conceive their own notions about the WW mythos that go thru the filter of their own limited understanding...some come close to the truth, others are way off. People basically impose their mindsets & values onto her, since it was not fully understood who she really was. This explains the many brutal Xena-like YouTube depictions, as well as her reputation for basically being a joke. Just as Bat fans have projected their hateful nature onto Batman to make him out to be a vengeful guy, which he isn't. This is bullshlt!...Ya don't take a man's life-long work on a beautiful character and change it to fit your ideology, and then call it by the same name!
Most of us know her "bottom line", but the question is how did we "arrive there"? Some attribute it to feminism. Others guess its spiritualism. Yet no one bothered to research the original concepts for answers!
Which is the other root problem perpetuating the misunderstandings of WW...fans refusing to admit that they don't really understand WW 100%. I spent my entire college years analyzing her just to finally figure out the entire mythos....what makes fans think they can just know her at the snap of a finger simply by reading the comics that DC feeds them?!? Duh!
Not knowing how "we arrived there", people are bound to misconstrue more & more of her mythos. And with the conflicting ways society views gender, its no wonder that there'd be so much misunderstanding of WW, a character who was built on gender concepts.
03-22-2012, 08:25 PM
2* Inching closer to Ares
With all this lack of understanding, naturally that would lead to some of the crazy things I've heard happening with WW in Mainstream...the neck snapping, the de-virginizing, the Xena overlays, etc. Jeez, its like her bracelets have come off! Becuz writers are frustrated with trying to understand WW enough to make her more accessible & interesting to everyone. People talk about revamping and all kinds of funky things to WW, yet they don't even fully understand the character! So to amp her up, Mainstream decided to overcompensate for the immaculate Lynda Carter image and go brutal warrior...displacing Marstonial myth for Classical...making the Amazons into man-haters...Mark Waid even wrote them as "isolated zealots"!...oh nevermind that WW was designed to be on Aphrodite's side! This brutal change makes it hard to get advertisers to support her image, as they say she's too violent. Oh gee, thanks a lot, Mainstream.
And in the end, WW is still always left as a background/supporting character among her superhero peers with her full abilities downplayed to where Batman is always the star who saves the day with his intellect, which according to William Marston isn't as great as WW's. Yet writers dumb her down. She's a specifically created character, yet she's treated like a generic shell.
Of the DC Trinity, only Superman & Batman can truly be tagged as star pillars of DC, becuz their titles had continued publication on their own, while WW's continued publication only came as a result of a legal contract. I believe that once WW is fully understood by the general public, she'll finally enjoy true star pillar status, what with the special gifts she has to offer minds, that have not been fully explored yet.
3* De-Humanizing her
The inverse of her brutish-ness problem is immaculate expectation. This is mostly due to the influence of the 70's show and the Perez Reboot. The mistake is thinking of WW as a goddess, which she is not. She is, including by definition of her Wonder Woman name, merely a human, but with magical abilities. Her clay birth doesn't make her a golem, it actually makes her like us, as we’re also from the dirt of the earth. And yet fans expect WW to be all these perfect things that were never originally a part of her conception. And that literally & symbolically has an adverse effect on the character. Making her too perfect to fans' expectations takes her away from William Marston's intention, which was to showcase human quirks, and makes her boring. Boring equals low popularity & sales. In-story-wise, that pressure wears on her spirit & doesn't allow her to connect. She wants to be regarded as human.
4* Modern feminists
With a lack of full understanding that is understandable, many different types of people have tried to explain her in their own misguided way. Greek Mythology buffs overplay her mythological aspects out of context, while disregarding her inherent sexual psychology. Mysticism fans remake her for their own weird cultish clubs, totally missing the point of Wonder Woman. While psychology students certainly recognize the sex inherent in her mythos, the general public blows the sexual elements out of proportion, totally distorting the reason for the erotic elements.
But it has been modern feminists that have caused the most confusion about the character. Talk about political co-opting...It was the perfect storm, as society from the 20th Century onward experienced the most gender conflict. I'm not saying that the various equal rights movements weren't warranted, or that these feminists were wrong to idolize WW, but they've stepped over the line when they tried to remake WW without acknowledging it was a remake. Like any other fan, feminists attach meanings to WW that were never originally there. They got everyone to think that WW was about their ideologies, when in fact, William Marston’s brand of gender relations was from an entirely different & more scientific doctrine that in itself needed updating...but updates using gender psychology, not feminist doctrines. Feminism is biased from the POV of women. And anytime you have a movement that is exclusive to the unscientific POV of one gender, you are doomed to folly. Many of the gender-related problems faced in the real world as a result of these Women's Movements (ie. men no longer being men) are reflected in how WW is portrayed...which is to say shallow, foolishly, wrongfully...especially the Perez Reboot incarnation.
5* Perez Reboot
The Perez Reboot was when I stopped reading comics, thankfully. Perez Reboot was the worse WW incarnation ever! As I understand, its the one that led to the infamous neck snapping. George basically destroyed the entire original WW mythos by changing her entire world!
Chief among the changes was messing with the gods' hierarchy. The problem with substituting Aphrodite with Gaea as the primary patron is that it takes away the real point of WW, which is LOVE...not feminism! Then he put more emphasis on Athena (warrior). Becuz he didn't believe Aphrodite (love) would be the main patron. Spoken like a true jaded New Yorker. Ares would be so proud. Then George sterilized the mythos by eliminating the sexual psychology and, like the 70's show, made WW too immaculate & naive as Starfire...while contradictingly made her a killer warrior! At the same time, he said that he couldn't resolve the contradiction of her being a peacemaker & a warrior. WTF!? What drugs is he on? How hard is it to conceive of the concept: Warrior-strength adapted to Love-humanity?!
He had it so WW got her powers from gods instead of training, thus placing her above the other Amazons which took away the real reason why the original WW was so special & elite...her personality & her inner strength.
Worse of all, he gave it a modern feminist tone that was a step backward from WMM's feminism. Rather than consulting with a modernized version of the more scientifically truthful gender/social psychology that is WW's roots, George interviewed a buncha women to get in touch with his feminine side! Making WW the soul of the unborn baby of a slain woman just smacks of bias, AS IF the world's aggression was all men's fault. WMM was simply saying that appetitive aggression is a masculine notion, but either men or women possess it. Its as if George took WMM's concept & just put it all out of context. No wonder WW was so boring to fans all these years! His incarnation just made no sense! The problem is, George just didn't understand the whole intent of WMM's mission...which was to make the world submit to Aphrodite's ways. Despite adoring WW, George basically wussed out and made an embarrassing contradiction of himself. He should have stuck with what he does best...the art work. And yet ironically, as he eliminated the sexual psychology & wussed up the mythos, he loaded up on the Greek Mythology but took it out of its original context by switching it from Marstonial to Classical, the more brutal version!
03-22-2012, 08:25 PM
6* Greek Mythology misguided
I was alone in my college dorm watching TV when the XENA show debuted. Immediately I worried that people would associate her with Wonder Woman. Why? Becuz I've known comics geeks who thought WW was boring, yet wanted to worship her & her comics, but needed some sort of gimmick to attach her to. And sure enough, I was right! Every girl, comics geek, Greek mythology buff, & WW fan began reimagining WW in Xena's brutal & treacherous image...Ironic, since I always saw Xena as WW's opposite! So now they had their gimmick thanks to a little company called Renaissance Pictures that started an upsurge of Greek Mythology (& Polynesian actors employed) in Mainstream culture, like there was back in the 50's-60's. Hercules & Xena were just the beginning. Even as I began failing to convince those around me that WW is nothing like Xena, I worried that this new Greek mythology trend would get out of control with comics geeks likely associating WW (out of context) with these Greek mythology shows & movies that were to come...GLADIATOR, TROY, ALEXANDER, 300, etc. One after the other, my predictions came true. THIS was NOT WONDER WOMAN, dammit!! I had even offered free WW seminars where I taught the correct context that Greek Mythology had with WW. But it wasn't enough. Most WW fans & casuals now had an increased "interest" in WW thru the exciting (but brutal), drab-colored, archaic, classical Greek Mythology, but their "interest" is a big LIE. Its like a defense mechanism they have...What's actually happening is that they felt WW was so boring by herself that they want so desperately to put her in this niche that they'd otherwise fail to attach to her, becuz they don't really know WW that well & don't want to admit it...all to try compensating for her bore-factor. They think: Superman is science fiction, Batman is urban noir, so gee, WW must simply be all Greek mythology & fantasy magic...which isn't quite the case, becuz the magic in her world is all related to real world concepts of emotions & gender as an allegory. And somehow it didn't occur to them that WW represents the modern sensibility, a new age that evolved beyond the barbaric ways of archaic times. Furthermore, her mythos' Greek mythology is NOT the Classical version, its Marstonial...its also not just arbitrary...its only an adjunct, an allegory to the REAL roots of WW, which is sexual psychology!...Its all connected to human emotions...Everything has a symbolic meaning. Understand?
DC has always misinterpreted & mistreated Wonder Woman's Greek Mythology layer, but never before as much as the Perez Reboot. At least earlier incarnations focused on her modern sensibilities rather than taking her back to archaic times. The problem stems from the fact that ever since WMM died, Wonder Woman's title has decreased in sales, prompting writers to try many angles, culminating in the Perez Reboot capitalizing on the Greek Mythology layer, but out of context & overdone. Since then, things have gone downhill. More people had this archaic vision of WW, inspired by Xena lore, associating her with Classical Amazons. Hence she became this killer warrior of ancient who still used a sword for everything rather than Amazonian technology, and the Amazons became man-haters. Totally disregarding Marston's ideal of modern sensible evolution, people were basically saying WW is no different than ancient bloody heroes like Achilles (a kill ease), Hercules (her kill ease), or Perseus. If she really was, why was she designed with modern bold colors, a modern sensibility, and the modern core concept?: Force-warrior adapted to Love-humanity. Taking WW out of her modern sensible roots leads to crap like the formation of all-women clubs, "sisters of the bow", who regard WW as one of their tribal idols.
If people need to obtain deep meaning from WW mythos, they should get it from her roots in gender/emotional psychology...its far more true to life. Not Classical Greek Mythology...she doesn't even exist there.
7* The 70's Show
This show is one of the problems that holds Wonder Woman back from progress, as its most people's first exposure to the character, and the standard from which they judge all incarnations...while I've been one of the few WW aficionados who weren't glued to Lynda Carter, becuz my first exposure to WW was the Marston incarnation. The problem is that people don't realize the 70's show is an incarnation that's been put thru the filter of Doug Cramer & the political bias of the flawed 70's Women's Movement. Despite being one of the few valid incarnations, its is not the definitive. Furthermore, it was meant to only be a 2-dimensional, campy take on WW that was incomplete & didn't do the mythos enough justice, considering that WW actually has far more original dimensions than was shown by the 70ís show, and have not been fully explored in any mainstream medium yet. This means there are far more deep & exciting portrayals that come closer to the original concept yet to come! Fans should be looking forward to them, rather than holding onto Lynda Carter as the prototype, which she's not. If you want a standard to judge any WW incarnation by, go back to the original. But I do give props to the 70's show for its correction of Marston's mistakes, such as his racist tones. I don't know what else the Marston family has done to make amends for the racism since then. What WW needs is her own renaissance that takes her away from the shadow of the 70's show, just as Denny's renaissance took Batman away from the campy Adam West incarnation. People need to see the inner essence of WW like they've never seen of her before to a degree where they are so enthralled that they forget about Lynda Carter, or to at least see her incarnation as campy.
8* MEGAN FOX: The Brutality...of the people.
The greatest danger to Wonder Woman isn't that she'd be killed or broken...there's no tragedy in an honorable death, plus the gods could always bring her back to life...but that she'd fall from grace, lose her identity & all that she espoused, and submit to the darkside.
Obviously, WW has been made more brutal in the last several years as if her bracelets have bursted open, correlating with Xena & the Classical Amazons, such as Bruce Timm's movie...inching more toward the side of Ares than Aphrodite...just to fit with society's hostile culture by amping her up with "attitude steroids", becuz they thought she was so sissified in the 70's show. Gee, while they're at it, why don't they just put bulletproof rings on her middle fingers so she can deflect bullets with them while simultaneously flipping people off!
But its not just the writers/editors who are guilty, but the attitudes of fans, casuals, & society in general! Most women I've surveyed said that they prefer characters like Catwoman or Xena...why?...becuz they're tougher & nastier. OMG. A glaring example of how fans' attitudes affect how WW is portrayed is the infamous Megan Fox comments. In 2009 while surfing the net, I found dozes of sites where people just verbally thrashed on Megan Fox for her opinion of WW! All you fans claim to worship WW & her ways...but do you really think WW would approve of your aggression in WW's name? Its trivial, childish! WW doesn't need your "protection", which is actually your egos protecting themselves! If you fans had just stopped to think WHY Megan Fox feels the way she does, you'd realize that it only reflects the general public's sentiments...that for years, WW hasn't really been understood that well by anyone, including fans! Hypocrisy much!? At least Megan admits that she doesn't get WW. Which is why my WW articles were written for people like Megan to finally "get it". And to think that just months earlier, most fans wanted Megan to play WW! With fans like these, WW might as well fight for Ares!
03-22-2012, 08:26 PM
Which brings me to the bane of WW's reputation in the real world...Marsian sentiments. Increasingly, since William Marston's day, society has worshipped the ways of Mars/Ares in what I call the New York mentality...becuz its a place that breeds irrational aggression. Jaded generation X fans like Rosario Dawson popularly talk about being ghetto tough & badass, then attach this attitude as WW's tenets, which in reality is really their lack of wisdom & inability to control their appetitive impulses, but labeling it as a strength rather than the dysfunction that it is. And that is precisely the type of evil that WMM associates with Ares!...not Wonder Woman! Any thug can be "tough".
People worship dominance & aggression becuz they don't want to be regarded as weak or sissy, so they overcompensate. And how dare they associate that with WW! But its mostly female fans who espouse these Marsian ways for WW!...while most men naturally desire for the opposite of their inherent rough nature. To me, this is the ABC’s of gender dynamics, law of opposites. It seems fans saw the gentle Lynda Carter version as sissified, so they felt the needed to toughen her up by making her a lethal bittch. She might as well have been born during the Dark Ages.
Currently, the anti-hero reigns as king of popularity, and people want to make one out of WW. Coincidentally, the WW character was actually specifically designed to counter such sentiments, getting people to see Venusian qualities like love, humanity & tenderness as NOT so sissy, by combining Marsian ways with Venusian ways in a particular configuration related to Loving Submission: Force-warriorhood adapted to Love-humanity. Showing that great power must include an appreciation for Venusian qualities. Otherwise you end up with an audience who still thinks such qualities are sissy, and don't want to exhibit compassion. Becuz the world only has two basic iconic archetypes to choose to worship. On Ares' side you have the thrilling anti-heroes. On Aphrodite's side you have your so-called sissy, weak & boring "Rainbow Brites". WW is the one Aphroditic icon who can best turn the tide toward Aphrodite, basically making it cool & exciting to be humane, tender, loving...that you can be strong without being thoughtless. Once you take that away from WW, then she's no longer uniquely Wonder Woman, and just blends in as another boring superhero who desperately tried being an anti-hero.
Society seriously needs to wear Venus Girdles.
Gee, if the government really wanted to inspire patriotism & freedom & fighting the badguy, then now that Osama Bin Laden is dead why don't they lift the friggin Patriot Act so we can have our original liberties & privacies back again!?!! Gee, could it be that the Establishment had a dubious agenda in mind?!
03-22-2012, 08:27 PM
IV.} OTHER SOLUTIONS....what else has to happen ---
Besides creating a successful debut movie, there are other things can help solve WW's problems & elevate her up from the ditch she's been in.
Especially since its her 70th Anniversary, the primary & first thing I declare that WW needs right now is a long overdue renaissance. It was the same thing that took Batman out of the campiness & into the success he has today, thanks to Denny O'Neil. Denny basically brought him back to his roots. Superman needed one too, since he's been derailed by the Christopher Reeve movies making him boring. And that's what he received with the Smallville show, which brought him back to his roots as a heroic third-party. Now most people no longer see him as the naive goody-two shoes that Chris Reeves' incarnation was.
But WW's problem has been multiple various incarnations, misinterpretations, taking her farther away from what made the original character so great, away from her original intent, violating her every rule, and leaving her in a big creative pile of crap, with no one knowing where to go with her. Most have tried to bring her back to what they think is her roots, by sticking her in a classical Greek mythology niche, totally disregarding Marstonial mythology, thus degrading her to the level of classical, brutal Amazons. And inspiring fans to lower her to Xena's brutal & treacherous level, thinking that makes WW more of a warrior, which it doesn't. Xena is also a harlot. But this is all due to subsequent writers not understanding her esoteric concepts, and to people's defense mechanism of trying to make her more interesting to them despite the big bore that subsequent writers have made of her.
So the solution is to throw away that entire pile of junk and go back to the original, devoid of all fan & feminist embellishments, to find out what her creator really intended...and then to modernize her by building her up where it counts, without violating the essence of the character...ie. Eliminating WMM's racist tones, basing her on more modern psychological concepts, etc. Writers must re-discover her REAL Venusian roots. Read the Marston chronicles (1941-1948), while thinking deeply about how you can expand on the concepts & ideas presented, see how they haven't been explored any further, then make plans to expand them.
When we speak of returning Batman to his roots, we're talking about the grim, dark, urban noir tragedy, the mystery. So when we speak of WW's true roots, we're not talking about Greek Mythology, we're talking about Sexual PSYCHOLOGY!...the thrills of the mind!...in a way that resonates as mythically universal. And how it all ties into the root of evil, how the universe works, and what our salvation is--which is the Venusian way of life. Its about emotions, its about proper relationships of dominance-submission, its about love in a love-devoid world we live in. Its supposed to reflect our real world, more so than any other superhero mythos. The Greek mythology was only an allegory. It was sexual psychology that informed every aspect of her mythos, even the protofeminism. And if you looked deeply, you'd find that WW actually has more of an Eastern Philosophy basis than an occidental Greek one, albeit with a physio-psych bent.
Once writers bring her back to her original concept (albeit updated), WW will be less of a brutal man-hater, she'll finally be serving her original purpose again, and everything in her mythos will fall into its proper place. You'll see that you don't have to revamp Steve Trevor with made-up attributes that he never had before, becuz the original was already well-built. You'll see that there's no need to concoct a new thing to make WW relevant to the modern world, becuz what she's really made of is already relevant: Force adapted to Love! And her purpose will be clearer...becuz Agent Smith (MATRIX) was right...Its purpose that connects us, guides us, defines us...without which, WW would not exist.
With her renaissance will also come a newfound interest in sexual psychology (AKA the PUA sciences), which peeps will have anyway, becuz the sexual revolution had already begun to pick up momentum even as I write this.
But before people do a proper renaissance for WW, they must first understand the true nature of WW's mythos & original concepts...only then can people properly expand her mythos & synthesize valid modern incarnations...
2* Finally understanding WW:
An effort must be made by everyone to study WW's original concepts in order to finally fully understand her. But even before that, writers & the fans need to ADMIT that they don't fully understand WW. There's no shame in that, its not your fault. Becuz like Diana, WMM was in his own world when creating her. He didn't think of how easily understood this would/wouldn't be to readers, he just focused on the effect it would have.
When trying to figure out WW, unlike other superheroes, you can't expect to cheat & find the answers in any single source, becuz none have been written yet due to no one knowing. Instead, you must be able to put 3 and 4 together...you must have been simultaneously studying psychology & the PUA arts...you must have had WW on your mind 24/7...like me...the perfect storm. I have already done all the work so no one else has to, and have laid most of it out in my articles for your FREE reference in understanding WMM's work, thus saving you a lot of research time. Once you're armed with the proper mental framework that my articles provide, you'll be able to read thru the Marston chronicles with an informed eye. What you'll find out about WW is that she has many different facets, most of which have not been fully explored yet.
3* Hiring the right writers:
This is something that is required when dealing with WW, above all other characters, due to her complexity. If you want a superb WW, then you cannot settle for less. You have to make special provisions for WW. Since we know that sexual psych is her roots, the problem is that not every comics writer is a psych major, and even then, its not enough to comprehend WW. Well, thank Aphrodite for the gift of PUA! Someone with some sort of PUA education could easily recognize many of WMM's gender concepts as well as apply proper gender dynamics into the stories. Just as you would look for someone with knowledge of maritime life to write for Aquaman, or someone who's familiar with detective stuff to write for Batman, the minimum requisites that editors should look for on the resumes of potential WW writers should be:
--some sort of PUA background (not necessarily a psych major)
--a talent for working with allegories, symbols, & metaphors...a lot of right-brain stuff.
--a sense of multiculturalism
--must have many good ideas for WW stories already mapped out, written, & ready for editing, before hire.
Notice that I don't say that the writer has to be a Greek mythology expert, becuz that stuff can easily be looked up. But it takes talent to work with allegories; that's more important, considering how the WW mythos is structured. Having a PUA-trained writer also solves the problem of male writers not portraying women characters true to form, becuz PUAs know women better than other men, and without having to be women. Also, writers who already spit out story proposals before interviewing for the job tend to be those who have more time to produce quality WW stories & meet deadlines. I used to come up with WW stories all the time after college that I had no time to write them all!
4* Context is everything:
The problem of fans complaining that WW is too violent & out of control, even when its justified, can be solved by writers minding the context...meaning they must build up to why WW is doing all these aggressive things (but never crossing the line), in a way the engages the readers/viewers to back her, feel things with her. Problem solved.
5* Mind the gods!
They play a vital role in the mythos, as they represent the inherent themes and set the tone of what its all about. Changing the gods & their hierarchies would significantly change WW. George Perez made this huge mistake by making Athena the head patron becuz he refused to believe Aphrodite's significance, and WW hasn't been the same since. The truth is, WW's world is about Love vs Malevolence. That is why Ares & Aphrodite are rivals, and why Aphro is the primary patron of the Amazons. There's nothing glorious about Gaea. Hera is not that great. And Athena has some mínerve displacing Aphrodite's status as head patron! The WW saga is specifically about Aphrodite, Athena, Artemis, Ares...the triple ĎAí versus the ĎAí-hole. All evil in WW's world traces back to Ares. Period.
So...mind the gods & their proper roles & hierarchies. That means WW should stop saying "Great Hera", becuz she does not worship Hera. Rather, she should be saying "Great Aphrodite", or any other mythological exclamations that don't misrepresent her loyalties...such as "By the hole of Uranus!".
03-22-2012, 08:27 PM
6* Bring her back to her full potential & proper place:
DC has always portrayed Batman as the one who saves the day by getting the JLA out of jams, like when they're all held in cells that are individually fashioned to neutralize their abilities...just by using his smart brain. Well gee, if that's his greatest superpower, then why hasn't some villain put him in a holding cell that scrambles his brain so he can't think of a plan?!? DUH!
But such brain scrambler wouldn't work on WW, becuz her brain works on 4 cylinders, doing the thinking of 4 people simultaneously. The fact is, with the way WW was designed, she's actually supposed to be smarter than Batman. Her brain can out think anyone and in a blink of an eye. How can some bat-eared wearing mortal outdo that??
Its time to give WW her proper respects that would put her back in the spotlight. After researching her & bringing her back to her roots, writers need to utilize her full potential. That by itself will do her justice. In fact, if DC were fair, they'd write it so that Batman perfected his binding techniques from WW! After all, she is the submission wrestler & binding expert.
Furthermore, its inaccurate to play Superman & WW as the Zeus & Hera of the group...they are more like Apollo & Diana, brother & sister!
7* Solutions to some fans' dilemmas:
In past years during my internet sit-downs, I've found certain dilemmas that fans have brought up regarding solving WW's problem of low sales & interest.
The problem is that fans want to put her in a niche of being the "regular" type of superhero who has the so-called standard features...an HQ, a sidekick, a homebase city to defend, a regular arch-enemy, etc, etc.. But WW is not such! She's different & must be handled differently! But, if you insist upon the standard issue features, then here are the best ones to give her:
--Base city?......She's gypsy. She flits to wherever she's needed. During World War 2, that was Wash-DC & NYC, in my script its Boston. But NYC is not a place WW would like to live in, with all its brutality, unjustified aggression & hopeless appetite. How about San Francisco?...its the site of the other UN building, it has the most racially tolerant & liberal communities, its home to among the most creative imaginative artists in the world, as well as the largest homosexual community, most of whom are WW fans & would be elated to have her there. The writers of the 70's show even say so (Episode 5, Season 2) as it was alluded to. WW would find much more community support in there Francisco than any other city. Plus, its where Harry Peter used to live.
--Solitary HQ......She doesn't need one, becuz she doesn't have Batman or Superman's personality. She thrives by being with people, not isolated. But in case she does need to get away for a while, there's always her private laboratory located on an isolated part of Paradise Island. But if you fans insist upon an alternate sanctuary, then having it up on Mt. Everest is most appropriate. Being underground isn't her style. She'd prefer to be up close to the skies, but still on Earth. Its also near where monks used to thrive.
--Her reason for being, Her role in Man's World?......As a love leader who promotes Amazonian values, which is to say, Aphroditic altruism qualities of love, understanding, humanity, etc, realigning society to the opposite state of what it has been in. While dealing with the villainous opposition who would disrupt that equilibrium, and preventing worldwide abnormal emotions from rising past a certain point, all to prevent Ares from rising again.
--Her standing in the DCU......The Universe is basically about human emotions & the paths we take...and the mythological gods preside over them...as is appropriate in many ways, since superheroes are basically recastings of mythological archetypes. WW is simply a champion agent from the good goddess, her instrument. Here to make sure the balance doesn't tip in favor of the bad gods. Hence, WW is the center of the universe.
--How do you define her in a short phrase? Who is she?......These are my originals: Aphrodite's Prime Agent, Champion Amazon, The Amazons' last hope. Just as Superman is the last son of Krypton sent here to save mankind...and Batman is an orphaned boy who became an avenging demon who's on our side...WW is the wonder who sprouted from the seed of feminine love & nurture...the daughter of creative feminine love...the strongest, finest among the race of Amazon who were meant to prevent Ares from ruling the world, but who is different from the others likely due to how differently she was created & born....basically, like Neo, she is The One...who will make a difference in the way the world is today. Which makes for a unique character out of all the other, common superheroes.
8* Multiple exposures:
One problem writers have had is portraying WW one-sided. WW, above all other superheroes, is the most multi-faceted, and to not explore them to the fullest is to not do WW justice. However, its difficult to portray them all, all the time. So the solution is to have multiple mediums. Each emphasizing certain aspects of her multi-facets. The movie can explore her serious mission, while a TV show can explore her humorous quirky personality & sexual themes, etc, etc. Some suggested new WW productions that would boost her popularity & familiarity to everyone include:
--Photographic comicbook one-shot, featuring live models instead of artist drawings.
--Wonder Woman For Dummies......this would expand on my article, "Who is Wonder Woman?". But it'd have to be written by 5 writers, just like the movie script.
--A series of multi genre short stories.....Just as an actor recites a script several different way in order to glean its the true essence, so too should WW be put in different environments & written in several different genres, all to give people a better sense of who she is & what she's about. Especially with her multi-facets. Just think of the Superman stories that have been extraordinarily exciting due to the environment in which he's placed.
--New comics titles & format......Just has Batman has multiple titles that each spotlight a different aspect of him, even doubly so would WW need them. But there should be story bits that come after the main story that are dedicated to some other aspect of her life besides crimefighting...such as her romance or how she helps other people learn & find love.
--Legends Of The Amazon Champion......Just as Batman has LOTDK that explores his past, so too should WW. In my private WW continuity, I have Diana going thru a form of Shugyo as part of her training to make her an ideal instrument of Aphrodite. This included being isolated on a nearby island, left to fend for herself like a homeless person.
--Educational merchandise......Whatever WW merchandise is sold, be it Wonder-wear or lunchboxes, should include a tag or free mini booklet that educates kids on the meanings behind what they bought...for instance a pair of Amazon bracelets. That's exactly what me & Coww do when we give out bracelets made of snapbands. How blasphemous would it be for little girls to be wearing these Amazon bracelets, yet not knowing what they symbolize?
--Indepth documentary......One that is actually organized and has a point, rather than random interviews...that analyzes WW...and also includes Pete Marston.
--Black & White serial sample......Of the DC Trinity, only WW had never had a B&W serial or an animated show back in the 40's...nor even a radio show!! How about just one production that shows us what it would have looked like.
--Varied outfits.......how about having WW wear a few varied outfits, just for variety?
03-22-2012, 08:29 PM
V.} REVIEWS.....of past WW productions ---
To give you all an idea of the good & bad, and some fun, here are some quick reviews of some past WW productions.
The 70's TV show:
Altho Lynda Carter was the best choice for the WW role, the portrayal didn't do WW enough justice as far as completeness in the details dept. The powers displays, the inaccurate portrayal of Amazons & Paradise Island, etc, etc. I understand the lack of SFX technology at the time limited how on-point they can show her powers. It wasn't till few yrs later in my mid teens did I realize that it was a campy watered down version of WW, and that Lyle Waggoner was an injustice to Steve Trevor. Still, it was fun to watch for what it was, and accomplished the task of injecting WW into our minds. And a great theme song that stuck with me & all of us throughout the years, with powerful words.
Don't get me wrong...the actual characterization of WW by Lynda was great. It just wasn't completely 3-dimensional, as could not be expected of a semi-campy TV show. Not a complaint. Just making a true statement. But the accuracy of her personality got worse in Season 2-3, which was reflective of the feminist 70's.
So for a WW MOVIE, the characterization must be made truer and 3-dimensional. Oh, and they totally changed the Giganta character, making her an actual gorilla & renaming her 'Gargantua'.
Super Friends & Challenge of The Superfriends:
She was cartoonish & watered down, as can be expected from a cartoon, so I can't expect much. As a child, I enjoyed her appearances for what it was. Altho Cheetah's voice was right on the money, WW's voice was really off. It came across like a heartless, inorganic battle axe...kinda like what Hawkgirl is supposed to sound like. They needed a better choice of voice actress. Oh, and they severely changed Giganta's origin!!
Legendary Super Powers Team:
The voice sounded like someone desperately trying to sound more lovely than the Super Friends version. It wasn't WW-accurate, and came across as a mother in her late 30's trying to sound lovely...Euwh!! The other problem I have with this WW portrayal is the writer didn't do her enough justice...they never portrayed her doing anything significant that is befitting of her full abilities. WW is a very smart & fast thinking SH, yet she was never portrayed that way!
The voice actress they used...not any better than in the Super Friends. Still sounding like an inorganic stern bittch. It was ridiculous. It sounded more like what Black Canary would sound like.
Animated Justice League ("AJL"):
By the Muses' songs, YES!! They finally got it right! Now this is how WW is supposed to sound...at least for a cartoon. The fluid, smooth sultry-ness without trying to sound sultry.
While they changed her origin & mythos details, and repeated Kanigher's mistake of making Hippolyta blond, just so long as they don't deviate too far from the basic core of the actual WW character then the variation on her origin is fine, and interesting. Tho her personality isn't quite right-on, its more 3-dimensional that in SuperFriends. Altho I would've also liked to see how WW panned out had they used her original origin mythos details. They only showed the Amazons being the 1.0 version? Where are the man-eager 2.0 Amazons?
Plus, they drew her too short & tiny, while Superman out-sizes her!...she's supposed to be 6ft tall with her boots, which should place her only 2 notches under Batman & Superman's height. But another thing they got right this time around was making her EYES beautifully stand out...something artists of past animations have neglected to do.
Oh, but they severely altered the Cheetah character when they shouldn't have, making her less evil than she needs to be. Basically she's been made a weaker character!
I hadn't had time to watch this when it first aired, and only got to sample some WW segments on YouTube, and some full episodes on DVD. They used the same AJL voice actor which is good. The fans have complained that this is a WW with a stick up her azs. However, I say this interpretation of her is perfectly valid. They have not taken it too far yet...unlike the comics portrayal of her snapping a guy's neck. This is simply a WW who's lost her patience at times...and in MW, who wouldn't? Its just that its important to remember that this is only one side of WW...she also has a tender maternal side, and this series simply needs to show that side of her too. It only seems she's not portrayed right on this series becuz she's not portrayed 3-dimensionally. She's 3-D, so she can be both gruff & gentle, depending on her mood & situation...and with her DISC powers, she can tell if a situation or person needs a dominant push or a compliant treatment or a submissive touch. Its just that in this series they've only shown her choosing to be gruff, but all of it is justified. Whenever this character is portrayed 2-Dimensionally, you cannot tell whether she's gruff all the time or what not.
So the only mistakes that this animated show made was that 1.}it didn't establish enough setup context when portraying WW as gruff, and 2.}the arrogance factor...they made WW more haughty that she really is...perhaps mimicking on the Lynda Carter version. That was a faulty invention of her personality. WW is too devoted to be arrogant.
JL: Crisis on two Earths:
The voice actor was fine...for this rendition of WW. Her portrayal was like any other portrayal of her in the Justice League comics I read in the 80's & early 90's...which is to say that she's been given a backseat. While Batman (as usual) is the main driver of the story who gets more of the spotlight. And all the other SHs are in between. This is another sign that DC/Warner pretty much doesn't know enough about WW to figure out what to do with her. Flash showed a lot of personality, as did Superman & Batman. While WW barely got to show off what she's truly made of. Same with Green Lantern, but at least we got to see a lot of power ring action. We didn't get to see much of WW's full capabilities. Altho I do appreciate Dwayne McDuffie for the scene where WW ties Superwoman's hands behind her back, then says, "Submit!". I was laughing in joy! That is very WW. But it was the only scene, therefore it seemed like a desperate attempt to add the dominance-submission theme to the mix at the last minute. But when Owlman said that the core problem with the multiverse was mankind, I was hoping he'd say it was human emotions, which is from WW's themes, which is universal, not just to her world. But once again, its all about Batman....he ends up being the one who saves the universe...Sigh! I would've really LOVED to see WW being the one who stops Owlman. Just imagine what she could do, what with her fast thinking brain & all...maybe she would've saved the universe and brought Owlman back alive to face charges. We'll never know now.
Note: the question that the Flash proposed, "Why do you need a plane for? You can fly!", happens to be answered in my article, "Who Is WW?".
Animated 'New Frontier':
I haven't had time to watch this film yet, but I heard this WW is based on the Silver Age version... Kanigher's. Already I'm disapproving of it, because Kanigher had no understanding of WW. Plus, I heard Lucy Lawless voices this WW. Ug! This is not the true WW! Why do they wanna make WW sound like Xena!? I'll just hafta watch it & see what they were going for. But my main worry is that Casual folks & their kids will see this movie and be conditioned to believe that THIS is truly WW.
Pendant Productions' Champion Of Themyscira:
The choice of voice is too one sided, and sounds creepy! Definitely the wrong choice for WW. Compare it to Susan Eisenberg's vocal performance, which is both sultry and determined. They say this production is based on the "Rucka" portrayal of WW. I am not familiar with that portrayal, but according to Pendant's production, it doesn't seem good.
Also wrong was the voice choice for Ares...again, they're playing offa the "suave Englishman" mold, instead of the Marston-intended Ares of nasty, brutish, heartless type.
03-22-2012, 08:30 PM
Bruce Timm's Animated Wonderwoman Movie ("BTAWM"):
The ONLY thing this movie contributed to the WW mythos is a new catch phrase... "What does crap mean?"
Which is the Jeopardy-answer to the question that is "BTAWM"! If you looked up 'crap' in the dictionary, you'd find an accurate description of BTAWM.
There are so many things wrong with this movie that a list of each point would be too long for this short-simple review. But basically this, above all other WW productions, is by far the worse ever. Not so much becuz it violates & changes the WW mythos, but becuz what they do present just doesn't make any sense and stinks of Gail Simone & Michael Jelenic trying too hard to be clever & cute & thrilling by squeezing in all these themes, but falling miserably short. Had this same movie been about some other female character, then....its STILL would've sucked! Only most (lame) laymen thought the movie was great, becuz all they saw was an exciting: Yay! Xena in a swim suit!
But are too dim-witted to see that the movie's gender politics were too contrived & insulting. At least William Marston's gender politics had some logic to it and was solidly based on something scientific. Nevermind that it didn't stay true to the WW mythos, but why would the Amazons hate men after their debacle with Ares? Ares does not literally represent men. And Michael Jelenic says he was trying to make a romantic comedy, but he made Steve into a self-deprecating wussy! Jelenic says he intended Steve to show the best & worse things about men, but nothing that Jelenic showed Steve doing can reasonably be considered piggish! And it didn't make sense for Steve to continue liking Diana...Any real man would not respect the Diana or Amazons in this movie. This is evidence of a wussy mentality behind the writing that is not only insulting to men, but isn't being real & truthful. And ending up tongue-in-cheek...actually worse...tongue-penetrating-thru-cheek.
This is one of the main reasons why I say a real man needs to do the writing for WW. Its this wussy & self-deprecating writing that ruined other aspects of the movie too, which is to say the storyline also just made no logical sense! Its the Amazons' non-sensical sentiments of isolation & man-hating that made them psycho-biyatches, not their violence. The writers seemed more concerned about making a political/ social statement than about good writing. Even their statement was flawed, as when it comes to gender dynamics, they just don't seem to get it. And they had horrible choices in voice actors for WW and Ares...Kerri Russell should never be allowed near the WW mythos again!
As far as the brutality & lethal violence levels, its not so much a debate about the validity of the head-chopping, but that none of it was done in the spirit of WW. The same can be said about the rest of the movie, becuz it was robbed of any true WW concepts & themes: It was basically another character, but with WW's outfit & name slapped on it!
There was also nothing profound about the documentaries on the Special Features. Instead, it just showed how much people didn't know WW that well.
The YouTuber by the name of 'Erik Holden' (I'm not sure if he's the same 'Erik' who yrs ago called me a pathetic woman-hater for posting that 'Why A Man Should Write WW" article), who goes by 'Blowshimselfupdude', gave a good review that pretty much sums it up.
This movie ended up being just a non-sensical, creative mess. At the end, when the lil girl in the movie said, "Look, its WW!", I was saying: No, its not...its Gail Simone's & Michael Jelenic's piece of crap!
(And how appropriate that this movie was released in 2009, the year of Bull....this movie was full of it.)
Denny O'Neil's "De-powered Period":
Mainly feminists griped when WW was de-powered. But I'd rather see her de-powered than de-FLOWERED. The problem with their gripes was that it was taken out of proportion. Their gripe with WW being continually power-less was legit. But to say that the entire period was shameful and useless is false. And Denny O'Neil was on the right track when he thought WW would be more admirable if she had to deal in world without convenient powers. What better way to test Diana than to see how she handles life without her usual advantages. To see if her ideals still stand up. To see if she was really so comfortable keeping her tenets just because she had powers.
Praise be to Denny & Mike for giving WW the first father figure she never had before, whom she actually had experiences with!! There's no shame in that! And in fact, even his name was appropriate...it was like saying WW is daughter to the very concepts that made her...Yin/Yang (ie. I-Ching). But feminists griped about the male figure, wanting to keep Diana woman-exclusive. As a result of all their out-of-proportion gripes, I see Denny O'Neil cowering in guilt like he did something shameful. It pains me to see a war veteran cower to a biased group whose POV is flawed.
But if any of you personally know Denny, tell him that I, WW's #1 admirer & expert, say that his run on WW was nothing to be ashamed of any more than any other WW writer. And that his only mistakes were:
A.) He thought Diana didn't already have to train to acquire her abilities...She did, by training her Brain Energy.
B.) He kept this de-powered period too long
C.) He didn't portray her personality more true to her original personality....ie. There shoulda been times where Diana was portrayed as more assertive than she was.
D.) He didn't keep all her values & Aphroditic codes...ie. No using guns to kill badguys.
E.) Not keeping Ares/Mars as the villain
F.) Still portraying the Amazons archaic & killing.
Everything else about it was legit. Especially how it took her through many genres! Thanks to him, her secret-spy aspect is now a more established part of her mythos.
In fact, I really wish DC would do another take on this period of WW's comics career. But redo it with Denny's mistakes corrected. I myself have already written several stories that re-does this Depowered period.
03-22-2012, 08:31 PM
Nov 2009--June 2010
On my 2008 Yearly Script-synopsis Sharing, a lot of fans were raving about this new Wonder Woman writer, Gail Simone. Then after viewing Bruce Timm's animated WW movie ("BTAWM")...the worse WW production I've ever seen, in any medium...I again saw Gail's name on the story writing credits. So I decided to check her out for myself. My friends went out to a secondhand bookstore to retrieve some of Gail's work for me. They got WW #15, #20, #22. These are the first comicbooks I've read in 15yrs. I then wrote a review.
Then decided to head out to the comics shop for the first time in years, and grabbed some more Gail Simone works for ridiculously low prices! The shop was giving away free comics. So I grabbed WW #34, #35, #41, #43, #44, as well as a few issues written by Allan Heinberg & Christopher Priest. Then wrote another review on Gail.
And here is just the summary of my review of Gail Simone's work on Wonder Woman:
Overall, clearly Gail doesn't get WW or her mythos, and falls short of WW's message, as if she were trying to appeal to Xena fans...as if she were given the assignment to write WW, but was led down the wrong tunnel. But Gail is a good writer with a an intimate style, yes...albeit disjointed sometimes. She should definitely be writing for certain characters & really making them come to life!
Power girl?...yeah. Huntress, Barbara Gordon, even Modesty Blaise?...Love to see that. Terra Markov, Rogue, Anima, Sydney Fox?...yep. Catwoman and Black Canary?...definitely! Wonder Woman?...no.
So there you have it...I don't know what you fans were raving about. Maybe becuz I'm coming in with fresh eyes, while you fans have dulled sensibilities from reading comics for years? Or maybe it stems from WW fans lacking understanding of WW.
Besides having the same initials as Gloria Steinem, I don't see what connection Gail has with WW...this is new territory for her! There was nothing special about Gail Simone's portrayal of WW. Her treatment of the WW mythos is just out of place.
I reviewed one comics issue by Allan, and I say his portrayal of WW is that its nothing special...but nothing foul either. Its what you'd expect, and less. But at least there's no serious violation of the character...so there's nothing to scream "foul" about...no head chopping, no neck snapping. His portrayal is too simplistic, not on enough profoundly detailed points with the real WW. Its as tho he was too afraid to do something that would destroy her archetype status, that he ended up doing nothing much at all...Or it could just be the story.
But yo, what's up with the iJet being a creation from Wayne Tech?!? Sigh....I'll attribute that to the Perez Reboot "canvas" that Allan had to work with.
I reviewed one comics issue by Priest, "WW + Jesse Quick #1", and I say that his WW portrayal is simplistic & nearly the bare basics of what you'd expect from WW. She was treated like a major archetype that the DC Trinity members are...that is to say, without much intimacy, in order to avoid marring the archetype symbol that she is. She was portrayed as one of the model superheroes that the others defer to. The counselor, the moral leader. As if she didn't have personal problems of her own. But again, not much else.
But yo, what's up with the vambraces?! It takes away the true meaning of the bracelets! They don't need to cover the whole frickin forearm! WW only ever wore vambraces OVER her bracelets.
After reading Phil Jimenez's work, I stumbled upon this graphic novel, written by some guy named Greg Rucka. I stood in the comics shop for about 20mins to read it. It was interesting read. Of all the WW comics I've ever seen, this graphic novel comes closest to what I advocate WW comics should contain as far as the element of ancient prophecies, secret societies (or "mysteries") & cults connected to the gods. I have never heard of the Hiketeia ritual, but it seems made-up. Whatever the case, I must say that its a very interesting non-psychological, non-sexual new take on the dominance-submission theme. This graphic novel wasn't true to the Marston original, but it is an interesting alternative. But regardless...I still say that WW's Greek mythology works best as an adjunct to psychology, and sends the original message of love.
03-22-2012, 08:31 PM
Years ago I actually heard a lot of crazy things about what was attributed to Phil Jimenez doing to Wonder Woman. I had heard that someone had written WW as having been raped, been pregnant, been giving "favors" to men, & such...and I was told that it was a gay man who wrote it. Later I was told that Phil Jimenez was that gay writer. Of course I shook my head in disgust at how bad Mainstream comics have gotten, and pondered what would impel a gay man to write such things about WW. Then one day this past May, as I was at the comics shop for the first time in years, to find some more Gail Simone comics to review, I happen to come across a graphic novel by Phil...the one that was dedicated to 9/11, culminating in an epic fight between WW & Superman in Times Square. I saw his name on the book, and by convenience, decided to check out his works for the first time to see for myself exactly what this guy is all about. I stood there in the comics shop for over an hour, reading the entire graphic novel. Then I went over to the back issue bins and found a WW "Secret Files" issue that he also wrote, and bought it. Here is my official review of Phil Jimenez's work/ take on WW:
First I wanna say that, if there's any truth to what I heard about Phil writing WW doing these crazy things mentioned above, I have not yet found it...and it would not have made any sense for him to do so. But what I found in that graphic novel actually amazed me! OMG, Phil's portrayal of WW is far better than Gail Simone's or George Perez's.
His portrayal of WW is actually a lot more balanced than any of the other writers I've seen or reviewed. And I can tell he was heavily influenced by the old 70's show, whereas I was mostly influenced by Marston's. The best way for me to describe how well or poorly Phil's portrayal of WW was, is by use of clay sculpture metaphor. Let's suppose a writer's portrayal of WW is their clay sculpture reproduction of an Aphrodite statue originally by Leonardo DaVinci. Then I would say whereas all the WW writers I've reviewed so far have "sculptures" that are way off as if they were sculpting a different figure entirely (maybe a sphinx) that look nothing like Aphrodite, or look more like caricatures of Aphrodite, Phil's "sculpture" hits all the details just fine and looks just like what most peeps would agree Aphrodite would look like. In fact, the only thing keeping his "sculpture" from being near-perfect is that its done on the wrong color clay. Additionally, it's a sculpture that is unfinished, has an entire missing right arm, a missing left leg, and a few other small parts missing as blank space...Its like having a perfectly molded statue of a human figure, but the arm & head stops short of being there, so that anyone posed for a photo with it could stick their own head behind the statue. That is the analogy I would use to describe Phil's work on WW, overall.
However, aside from the portrayal of WW herself, I also got a sense that Phil lacked full understanding about certain aspects of the WW mythos...certain themes & elements. This is true of most ALL writers after Marston, becuz no one explained Marston's mythology in explicit detail to them.
The missing parts:
What I mean by this metaphor is that Phil's WW portrayal was an incomplete WW, but for what he does have, its perfectly fine. There are more elements of WW's character that had he added it to his portrayal would've made it a more complete picture...again, its not to say that what he did have wasn't near-perfect. His WW portrayal still had unfulfilled potential that seemed to scream out for more, more, more. One example, for instance, are the fight scenes WW has...In battle, she's often portrayed as waiting for the opponent to make a next move before she does anything. If WW is an entity who has Athenian-wisdom and whose objective is to end conflict without tragedy (ie. killing) then the wise strategy would be to 1.)incapacitate & end the fight ASAP, and 2.)keep up her attack relentlessly to put the opponent off-guard so that s/he cannot cause more harm to anyone as well as not give any further "reason" for WW or anyone else to have to kill that opponent. On both counts, WW must be dominantly aggressive to carry'em out in order to secure a favorable resolution worthy of Aphrodite and stop any further bloodshed. But one could probably attribute this "missing arm" to Phil not being a martial artist with that sort of tactical knowledge. Otherwise I'm sure he woulda depicted WW doing as such. Another, major, missing element was that his rendition lacked the sexual psychology, and is as sterile as Perez's run. My assessment tells me that that is due in large to the fact that Phil wasn't influenced much by the Marston incarnation...but also, likely, he was forced to use "the wrong clay"...
The wrong clay:
What I mean by this metaphor is that Phil did the very best out of any writer I've seen on WW, using what he was given. But he was given a faulty "canvas" to work with...aka Perez Reboot incarnation. And that incarnation of WW is crap, everything about it is wrong. From what I've been told by comics geeks, writers are limited by the incarnations that editors present to them. That being the case, Phil's portrayal was still near accurate. So I would love to see what Phil could do using either Dr. Marston's incarnation or my updated modern WW! But otherwise, Phil's rendition of WW is the best one I've seen, post-Marston, out of George Perez, Gail Simone, Allan Heinberg, or Robert Kanigher. The only WW writers who are better than Phil Jimenez are Dr. Marston & me.
NOW, onto the Specifics of the Graphic Novel Itself:
HIS ARTWORK: is a bit too serious for the faces of these Amazons who are supposed to be happy & loving...I'd much prefer George Perez's artwork of people. Phil's angularity on WW's face is too sharp than it needs to be. Perez's artwork does it just fine with its curvaceousness. Phil should draw just the things & settings (like Paradise Island), and maybe some of the outfits...while Perez should draw the people's faces & the rest of the outfits. And when I heard that he planned to design Paradise Island with irridecent "mother of pearl" type colors, I was like "YES!". That is the correct idea for Paradise Island. But my suggestion is to not cover Paradise Island entirely of that material....There is some variation in some parts of the city....and it should not neglect the silver & gold colors which are an original staple of Paradise Island, as they are also indicative of the Moulton family trade of blacksmithing these two metal forms.
I'd also like to see Phil Jimenez draw my WW outfit design, see how it looks using his style.
Her fight with Superman:
Its plausible that WW would have a bit difficult time tackling Superman, since we can assume she's still inexperienced fighting other superpowered beings (with their varied abilities) other than her Amazon sisters. Even though with the best intel system on Earth (the Magic Sphere) they know & studied various beings and trained in ways to defeat'em without unnecessary tragedy, it doesn't replace actual experience fighting these beings. However, I do have issue with Phil depicting WW giving Supes the cliche crotch kick! I think that's been unncessarily done by Xena, Chyna, Nikita, etc. Ya shouldn't add Diana to the list. It just encourages misandry! Besides, it makes no sense to, becuz Superman cannot feel it anyway. If the Athenian-wise WW wanted to get Superman off-balance, a simple leg grapevine woulda sufficed...no need for the crotch kick, which wouldn't work anyway.
03-22-2012, 08:32 PM
Other mythos elements portrayed:
I don't know if this was a result Perez's Reboot or Phil's decision, but why is the invisible jet some "Lansanarian" technology? Originally the iJet was made on Paradise Island by WW. And why is WW the only Amazon with great powers & the only one who had to learn to control it? Originally all the Amazons were equal, except by how hard they trained, and their control was a natural part of their god-given abilities. And why did they make Cheetah into this superstrong were-cat, thus taking away the focus on what truly makes her evil and onto her physicality??
Phil's creations for the Amazons seem too sterile...none of its based in anything allegorical to sexual psychology or social dynamics. But again, I'd attribute this to Phil being forced to work with a certain canvas that isn't true to WW. But yo, what's up with the "Purple Death Ray"!?! The Purple Ray is supposed to RESTORE life, not take it away! What the hell's THAT all about?!!
JEALOUSY of Mother:
I read somewhere that Phil wrote into the chronicles that WW was jealous of her mother for becoming a Wonder Woman back in World War 2. Why would Diana be jealous of her mother?!? Diana was not raised in conventional MW settings, she never had a father, and therefore has no Elektra complex, and hasn't built up the drives to be jealous of mother. Her upbringing involved disciplined rearing & nurturing environments. It just makes no psychological sense.
Phil's ENCYCLOPEDIA work...
I later came across a WW encyclopedia that Phil wrote. I haven't decided to buy it yet, becuz it had too much Perez Reboot incarnations in it. But I did stand in the bookstore for 30mins to browse thru it. And here's my short review:
I'm starting to see that within the sphere of WW aficionados, Phil Jimenez's expertise may be in Amazon lore, whereas my main WW expertise lies in the psychological & allegorical elements. But first, I must say that this Encyclopedia doesn't compare to the Michael Fleisher one that I read throughout childhood, as far as sticking with the original WW concept. Phil's encyclopedia seems more about the WW of the entire DCU...of the other incarnations that are watered down. The worse one being the Perez Reboot. Therefore Phil's tome should not be taken as the definitive source for the true WW...its just one source. But the good thing about it is that it does have entries that the Fleisher one totally misses, such as "Kangas".
Anyway, his entries on the significant characters seem sporadic & short, and the info isn't always relevant, yet he spends more space on non-WW related characters. For instance, the entries that list characters from other mythoses (ie. Deathstroke) should only talk about their interactions with WW, but instead, Phil writes about the character in other adventures unrelated to WW...totally unnecessary & takes up too much space.
In the section about Mythological Exclamations, he shoulda also listed the first WW issue that debuted her first mythological exclamation...but instead he just listed the comic issue that explains their origins.
I also noticed that Phil does not take into account the discrepancies of Marston's multiple origin stories...this is something fans will want to know when they use this tome as a reference. Instead, he deceivingly writes it in storytelling format as if WW's origin only occurred one way.
Phil also makes the mistake of trying to explain things that from HIS take on the subject, and most of the time his assertions are incorrect. I would expect that in writing a reference book that he would stay factually objective, stick to the reporting, like an editorial. Instead, his interpretive voice blares through.
Oh, and why didn't he include info on WW's newspaper strip appearances? Those are very significant to the mythos!
Side Note: I read somewhere that Phil said Ares is the reason why WW exists. That's wrong. Ares is the reason why the Amazons exist...WW was just the latest, greatest Amazon who was sent to neutralize the handiwork of Ares.
Overall, I felt that this tome coulda been better written had Phil bided his time to write the entries more objectively without adding explanations to things that he clearly didn't fully understand...or do some more research. Heck, had I known Phil was doing this project, I woulda volunteered off the record to help him out for free! There was no need for him to rush the publication of it...unless of course his boss declared a due date.
I would recommend that Phil do a 2nd Edition WW encyclopedia sometime in the future, where he not only adds a few new entries (should there be new characters in the current continuity), but to shave down the unnecessary text that have nothing to do with WW lore. As well as tweak some entries (ie. Mythic Exclamations). And fix typos & grammatical errors to help clarify readability. And correct some story anomalies. Take out the inaccurate assertions, and rewrite it objectively. Perhaps readers can email him their corrections & any errors they see, so he'd have a better idea of what & where to fix.
And possibly add some "psycho analysis" in Wonder Woman's entry, which I would gladly ghostwrite for free, so they don't have to pay a psychologist to do it...but only under my stipulations that they don't change my words around.
03-22-2012, 08:34 PM
UPDATES: February 2011
David E Kelley's new TV show:
SCENE: [Serious light music plays while a slow steady cam, panning up a massive building with WW's emblem on it, then inside, through an empty hallway....]
NARRATOR (serious voice): In this mighty building, lies the workings of a growing organization headed by the mighty Amazon warrior known as Wonder Woman..... She's fought war mongers, crime & corruption.... But what also matters is the children.... So her company produces toys that will push kids toward healthy lives.... that will inspire them to greatness....
SCENE: [Assembly workers lifting this tennis ball contraption that has stand that holds the tennis ball and feeds new balls on it through a tube, and a racket attached to a robot arm that hits the ball automatically.]
NARRATOR: So every product must go through her for final approval....
SCENE: [Some board members walking to an office that says "Diana Themyscira, founder" on the door. The music stops, they open the door to the sound of 'Twak! Twak! Twak!' inside....]
NARRATOR: And you can bet.... she'll make sure they all properly serve their functions.
SCENE: [Diana in athletic attire, wearing her usual tiara & outfit underneath, bent over the tennis contraption, and the racket repeatedly hitting her butt....]
DIANA (in a cheery voice): Hey guys! Look...a spanker! (**giggle giggle**)
SCENE: [Her board members stand there frozen with their jaws dropped, looking at her like she must be on drugs or something.]
I'll tell ya, if the CW ever airs a preview like that, I would bust out LAUGHING! But ya see, that's the whole point!
This scene is an example of how a show can still include the original elements of bondage & such, by spotlighting it in a parodied or humorous way!!
I approve of this oncoming show! Already I see the potential to do for WW what has been needed in decades...to show all her many facets...becuz she does has many of them, more than other superheroes, that have not been fully showcased yet. Many people either say that she's a motherly figure, or that she's a girl in love...but the truth is she's both...why can't people see her 3-dimensionally as she is? The problem is that its difficult to give every facet of WW its due while portraying her in one medium. The solution is to spotlight a different set of facets in different mediums...film, TV shows, comics, videogames, etc.
This oncoming TV show can be less about her heroics, and more about her human side, her love life, and the daily life interactions that show her funny quirky personality. As well as a chance to explore the erotic themes inherent in WW. By people seeing her first live-action movie, reading her in comics, and then seeing this portrayal on TV that explores details of her personality not given emphasis in the other mediums, it gives them a fuller sense of who WW is.
The fact that this show will be a dramatic comedy is just fine! Most fans don't think of WW as a comedy, that she's pigeonholed in the superheroic action genre. But the fact is, WMM designed her to be 3-dimensional, and comedy would certainly showcase certain aspects of her least familiar with most folks. And especially during a post-9/11 era, the public could use some cheerful joy & fun laughs! A definite break away from the doom & gloom of Batman & other anti-heroes like LFN or Sydney Bristow. And so, would help accomplish part of WW's mission, which is laughter.
They can even parodize WW and it'd still be legit! Becuz WW's world is filled with symbols & hidden meanings that are just waiting to be visually depicted, David E Kelly's "Ally McBeal" style would be ideal for this comedy show. Besides, Etta is comic relief, her theme is so wacky that there can be some short stories...such as her dreaming of junk food trying to eat her. And don't forget to have her yell "Woo! Woo!" every once in a while! Etta's theme song should be that one song "I Want Candy!". LOL
A light parody of WW would certainly inform viewers of the underlying themes of WW. The whole show can be a "Parodize Island" for all I care, and its still be legit to the WW mythos!
I can't wait for this show to air this Fall! As WW's #1 Loverboy, I definitely approve of this Adrianne Palicki...but just for this show, not my script. She seems like the type who can portray this quirky side of Diana! If any of you out there know Adrianne, please get her a copy of my WW bonus article, particularly the WW Dossier, so that she can study up on WW & more accurately portray Diana's personality.
03-22-2012, 08:35 PM
Batman: Brave And The Bold:
I only saw one clip of this show that involved WW rescuing Steve Trevor & Batman. They went with a Golden Age version of WW, which is one valid version of her, but not the only. It's a version which I call the "Elizabeth Marston" version. The choice in voice actor was fine for this version. It was high spirited, uplifting, and wasn't too course. I was glad to see the eagle chest emblem instead of the annoying "=W=". And the musical theme in the background was slight enough to inspire a rush of emotions, and gave the whole action scene the true spirit of WW. Overall, I loved it! It was a valid depiction of WW.
NOTE: At the end, Batman asked "What does she see in that man?". I laughed my azs off! Because I know exactly what WW sees in Steve! ;)
J. Michael Straczynski - WW #600:
I have only begun exploring this "Odyssey storyline" recently. My first issue was #609, and I liked it!
I had not ready comics for over 17 years. I remember J. Michael Straczynski from his work on She-Ra. And I must say I'm liking this WW work.
I just crashed into the middle of the latest WW comics. So I don't know the backstory of what the heck is going on & her outfit change. But I find that Straczynski's story is very much in line with WW's MATRIX counterpart, Neo...the dark suspenseful feel of it is very MATRIX-like.
The only time Iíve seen this kind of genius & careful use of symbolism & underlying theories, is in my own screenplay.
Regarding Dr. Psycho: Not sure if any fans realize this, but when Dr. Psycho is in tears because he misses Diana, that is a sign of Diana's affect on even the villains...they love her. And Dr.Psycho is a misogynist due to betrayal. Now he's in tears. Wow, that's REAL magic. "Make a hawk a dove. Stop the war with LOVE. Make a liar tell the truth."
Brings tears to my eyes.
Although, I resolutely don't believe Diana would say to him, "In a profoundly creepy way". That line sounds like it came from a typical un-enlightened WASP from Man's World. Its something someone like Buffy would say.
And I'm guessing that the culprit behind all this chaotic change in Diana's life is a double team of Ares and Angle Man!!
And the 3 hooded figures have got to be the 3 patron goddesses: Aphrodite, Athena, Artemis.
We'll see if I'm right! I can't wait to get a hold of the rest of the succeeding issues, but the comics store ran out of copies.
Brave & the Bold #33 - Straczynski:
Only 2 complaints...
-WW crushing that guy's cellphone
-The inaccurate line: "The Greeks, my people, would....". Her people are not Greeks...they're Amazons.
03-23-2012, 02:03 AM
I see you did a lot of work there Brett, but i'm afraid its all in vain, as it is unlikely that we will get a WW film during our life time & when it does finally come out, if it ever comes out, its not going to be all that good. Frankly i would rather never ever hear anyone mention a WW movie ever again. There are plenty of other properties out there much more interesting then WW that WB could work on & unlike WW they wouldn't be so convoluted & hampered by the fandoms emotional baggage that it would be possilbe for the property to actually succeed.
Its time for the fandom to get over this idea that she's going to get a movie, atleast for a good length of time, because it just aint going to happen. Heck at this point the more we hear about how WW deserves a movie, the more many of us hate WW & her fandoms. Heck at this point i would rather see DC/WB create a brand new female character to make a move about then WW. Because there really is something about the self entitlement that comes along with the claims being made by the WW fandom about her "deserving" a movie that just rubs many of us the wrong way.
03-23-2012, 12:45 PM
In that case, Kelly, then at LEAST you should do what me & Coww do...start your own WW celebrations!
Me, I've even created a whole WW universe with my stories back at home. I think that's what every devoted WW fan or aficionado should do. Lillian Robinson even wrote her own book that analyzes WW from a somewhat feminist perspective.
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