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02-29-2012, 09:54 AM
The new trailer for Joss Whedon's "Avengers" has hit the Internet, showcasing new footage and clearer glimpses at the extraterrestrial villains Earth's Mightiest Heroes will face in May.


Full article here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37266).

Karl Cook
02-29-2012, 09:57 AM
Looks terrible. Iron Man and Hulk look great, the rest of the characters and costumes are woeful.
Also, the ending looks as though it was ripped-off from Transformers.

Movieartman
02-29-2012, 10:04 AM
Looks terrible. Iron Man and Hulk look great, the rest of the characters and costumes are woeful.
Also, the ending looks as though it was ripped-off from Transformers.

whats wrong with this
the giant robots are what was good about transformers, it was the acting plot and diologue that where bad about those films. there is no indication that this film with have those flaws so the giant serpent thing isnt a hendrance at all :evilangry:

Karl Cook
02-29-2012, 10:11 AM
whats wrong with this
the giant robots are what was good about transformers, it was the acting plot and diologue that where bad about those films. there is no indication that this film with have those flaws so the giant serpent thing isnt a hendrance at all :evilangry:

I disagree; The Transformers movies sucked and this has a similar vibe to it.

Thankfully Prometheus, The Amazing Spider-Man and Judge Dredd are also coming out this Summer so at least there'll be something decent to watch instead.

Arachnid
02-29-2012, 10:11 AM
I think it looks amazing. Captain Americas mask is weird, but I can get over that. Thor and Iron Mans costumes are the best in my opinion.

ugdave
02-29-2012, 10:11 AM
Well cool that trailer washed the bad taste out of my mouth left by that horribly photoshopped poster.

Honestly I wasn't that excited about this movie until seeing the last two trailers - they've really got me sold on this one now.

marvelprince
02-29-2012, 10:12 AM
That looks fantastic! Nice to get a glimpse of some team dynamics in here. I've watched this like 20 times now

Movieartman
02-29-2012, 10:14 AM
oh they most definatly sucked but it wasent dew to the giant robots

Phil Clark
02-29-2012, 10:17 AM
I disagree; The Transformers movies sucked and this has a similar vibe to it.

This doesn't have even a hint of the same vibe as Transformers did. The energy of the story is completely different. The actors are phenomenal. You're just saying it sucks to be contrite.

This trailer kicks every other super-hero movies ass. This is going to be the year of the Avengers.

Annihilator911
02-29-2012, 10:22 AM
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!!!! Justice League Who???

Karl Cook
02-29-2012, 10:23 AM
This doesn't have even a hint of the same vibe as Transformers did. The energy of the story is completely different. The actors are phenomenal. You're just saying it sucks to be contrite.

This trailer kicks every other super-hero movies ass. This is going to be the year of the Avengers.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

Hypestyle
02-29-2012, 10:26 AM
I want to go to see this movie as soon as possible. I wonder if any sequences are really intense in 3-D

Pennyforth
02-29-2012, 10:27 AM
Midgard Serpent?

aNamored
02-29-2012, 10:30 AM
Okay, this may have changed my mind. Despite my intense dislike for Joss Whedon, RDJr has pretty much convinced me I need to see this theatrlcally.

aNamored
02-29-2012, 10:31 AM
Oh right, Judge Dredd. Thanks for the reminder :)

Movieartman
02-29-2012, 10:32 AM
its mechanical.................... to no, unless there reamagining it to be like another ultimate asgardian weapon like the Destroyer, but id say itll be Fin fang foom before they do the midgard serpent

Movieartman
02-29-2012, 10:36 AM
Okay, this may have changed my mind. Despite my intense dislike for Joss Whedon, RDJr has pretty much convinced me I need to see this theatrlcally.
whats wrong with whedon?

Oni Squirrel
02-29-2012, 10:37 AM
Gotta say this movie had sort of gone down the list for me in comparison to the other summer movies set for this year. This trailer did a lot to raise my hopes. I like most of the costumes though I do think Cap's is a little off, but not so bad that it'll hurt the movie for me.

Lemurion
02-29-2012, 10:46 AM
I hate Cap's costume - worse than Matt Salinger's (better than Reb Brown's though).

The rest looks okay, and I still want to see the movie.

jyeager11
02-29-2012, 10:49 AM
Cap's costume continues to look completely ridiculous in every scene he's in... otherwise, everything else looks great.

There were 100 ways to make Cap's costume work, this wasn't any one of them.

kalorama
02-29-2012, 10:50 AM
Trailer looks damn good to me (although that doesn't mean the movie might not still be awful). And I still don't get all the whining over Cap's costume.

The_Ronin
02-29-2012, 10:53 AM
It looks unbelievably awesome! I can not wait. This is what i want from a superhero flick! Superheroics!

SephirothDZX
02-29-2012, 11:03 AM
Movie looks pretty sexy.

I also have to chime in about all of the hate for Caps costume, I dont get why. People initially whined that the WW2 era costume didnt look enough like Caps, then they give you a costume that looks a bit more like Cap's normal costume and now people whine that its not the WW2 costume.

They could make a 100% perfect replica of Cap's comic suit and people would say something's wrong about it.

Legato
02-29-2012, 11:07 AM
Movie looks pretty sexy.

I also have to chime in about all of the hate for Caps costume, I dont get why. People initially whined that the WW2 era costume didnt look enough like Caps, then they give you a costume that looks a bit more like Cap's normal costume and now people whine that its not the WW2 costume.

They could make a 100% perfect replica of Cap's comic suit and people would say something's wrong about it.

Comic fans have to complain about something. Thats how we roll

Squashua
02-29-2012, 11:08 AM
Midgard Serpent?

That's what I'm thinking.

Serik
02-29-2012, 11:08 AM
Looks fun.

Stark Tower is pretty awesome. I assume that's where Stark meets with Loki and then gets thrown out the window?

hulahulk
02-29-2012, 11:18 AM
Looks fun! Can't wait!

Eliseu Gouveia
02-29-2012, 11:26 AM
I can´t even remember the last time I was this excited to see a movie.

ZeoVGM
02-29-2012, 11:38 AM
Looks terrible. Iron Man and Hulk look great, the rest of the characters and costumes are woeful.
Also, the ending looks as though it was ripped-off from Transformers.

lol what? How in the world can you think Thor's character and costume is "woeful"? How else do you expect him to look exactly?

And Cap's costume looks, you know, just like Captain America. The mask is a little off at times but the rest of the costume is great.

ZeoVGM
02-29-2012, 11:41 AM
This looks absolutely amazing. Although, with Joss Whedon behind it, I've never had any doubts.

jyeager11
02-29-2012, 11:41 AM
Movie looks pretty sexy.

I also have to chime in about all of the hate for Caps costume, I dont get why. People initially whined that the WW2 era costume didnt look enough like Caps, then they give you a costume that looks a bit more like Cap's normal costume and now people whine that its not the WW2 costume. They could make a 100% perfect replica of Cap's comic suit and people would say something's wrong about it.

Okay, first of all, there is at least 1 thing wrong with every movie that's ever been made. The fact that you cannot accept that there might be *1* thing people don't like in these previews is a failing of yours, not of the perfectly normal people who are able to recognize the good AND the bad.

Second, the praise over the solo Cap movie uniforms far outweighed the criticism. Meanwhile, the criticism over Cap's Avengers movie costume far outweighs the praise. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce from this that they got it right in the Cap movie but wrong in the Avengers movie. Is it the end of the world? No, nor is anyone saying it is. We're just sharing our opinions. Calm down. As long as you're in the minority, it's you who should be looking to understand what everyone else is saying, not the other way around.

Third, notice how no one's complaining about Iron Man's armor? That's because it looks nothing like the classic "spandex arms" suit. That suit worked in comic books, and would not fly - pardon the pun - with today's more sophisticated sci-fi movie goer. They introduced actual articulation points to the armor in the comics before using that design - NOT the classic one - in the movies. That's why it works. Because Marvel adapted.

Spider-Man's costume in the 3 movies we've seen him in works because they adjusted the tones of blue and red - as well as the material used - to make the thing at least semi-credible in a real-world setting. Iron Man's armor looks and feels like real armor. Real articulation points. Real scratches on the metal.

Meanwhile, in every shot we see him in, Cap looks like he just walked out of a Comic Con, and his costume is being worn for the first time. If anything, it looks TOO MUCH like the classic one. They also failed to make it look worn. The tone of blue is too loyal to the comic book. So's the tone of red.

There's a reason everyone is pointing at the Cap costume and laughing, but no one's laughing at Iron Man, Thor or the Hulk... all three of whom look just as clownish in the comic books, but were tweaked to not look too out of place in a real life setting.

Prince Of Orphans
02-29-2012, 11:47 AM
Awesome trailer. Cap's costume looks terrible though. Should've just gone with Bucky's Cap outfit if they wanted to go for modern. I think it's the mask. It look so out of place. And the costume itself looked a little tight, making it seem like he's not as big as Chris Evans actually is.

kalorama
02-29-2012, 11:48 AM
Second, the praise over the solo Cap movie uniforms far outweighed the criticism. Meanwhile, the criticism over Cap's Avengers movie costume far outweighs the praise. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce from this that they got it right in the Cap movie but wrong in the Avengers movie.

Just like it doesn't take a rocket science to deduce that a bunch of random people pissing on the internet does not constitute concrete fact, let alone prevailing opinion.


They also failed to make it look worn.

There's a good reason for that; namely, because it hasn't been worn. The scene between Rogers and Fury makes it pretty clear that he hasn't actually been out on any missions as Cap since being revived. This is his first time wearing it. It's brand new.

Chiasm
02-29-2012, 11:58 AM
That looks utterly awesome unlike the Amazing Spiderman one which I just do not like. Other than Cap's costume this trailer is damn near perfect.

Sleepwalker42
02-29-2012, 11:58 AM
Excellent. This looks amazing...all the costumes look great...even Caps (get over it internet). I do with Hawkeye looked more Hawkeye-like...however, this is going to be an great flick. Super excited.

Chiasm
02-29-2012, 12:02 PM
The WW2 costume from the Cap movie was damn near perfection from the tone of the colors to the equipment attached to it. This one looks like someone went to Walmart for a last minute Halloween costume.

Its really hard to to bright colored comic book costumes in film without them looking absurdly stupid which is why I'm sure they went black leather for Hawkeye instead of his purple atrocity. They should have stuck with what worked well already for Cap.

Other than that though the trailer is awesome.

hulahulk
02-29-2012, 12:09 PM
To all the haters and skeptics: It's a freakin' comic book movie! Relax! Unless you personally designed a costume for the movie that was rejected, you really have no reason to complain. Just enjoy the ride, please! It'll be a blast!

ZeoVGM
02-29-2012, 12:09 PM
Third, notice how no one's complaining about Iron Man's armor? That's because it looks nothing like the classic "spandex arms" suit. That suit worked in comic books, and would not fly - pardon the pun - with today's more sophisticated sci-fi movie goer. They introduced actual articulation points to the armor in the comics before using that design - NOT the classic one - in the movies. That's why it works. Because Marvel adapted.

I think comparing the classic Iron Man costume to the classic Captain America costume doesn't exactly work. And they didn't use an exact copy of the comics version of the Cap suit, they definitely tried to modernize it. Really, the only part that looks off at times is the helmet. The costume itself is fine.


Spider-Man's costume in the 3 movies we've seen him in works because they adjusted the tones of blue and red - as well as the material used - to make the thing at least semi-credible in a real-world setting. Iron Man's armor looks and feels like real armor. Real articulation points. Real scratches on the metal.

His costume doesn't really work though. The Spider-Man costume is fairly mediocre int he original trilogy. There was nothing credible about the material used.


and his costume is being worn for the first time.

... Because it is? And you clearly see it look worn as the city battle goes on in the trailers.

Legato
02-29-2012, 12:17 PM
To all the haters and skeptics: It's a freakin' comic book movie! Relax! Unless you personally designed a costume for the movie that was rejected, you really have no reason to complain. Just enjoy the ride, please! It'll be a blast!

They cant. Whenever a comic film comes around you tend to find one or more people finding something about the movie to complain about. Either it's about the costume design or if a certain actor or actress doesn't fit their fantasy image of a comic character that they like. It goes back to the old saying, you cant please everyone.

LightningBug
02-29-2012, 12:18 PM
This trailer is amazing and has cleaned the bad taste out of my mouth from that horrible poster that went up yesterday.

I think Cap's costume is awesome, except for the helmet. It's just too bulky for an otherwise streamlined costume. I'm okay with him leaving it off for the majority of the film. He doesn't wear a mask with his super-soldier costume in the comics, so there is some precedent for a maskless Steve.

The movie doesn't look perfect (I'm not sure I've seen a perfect movie) but I honestly can't understand some of the hate over this trailer. I don't get why anybody who claims to like superhero comics would see this and say it looks bad. It's like my comics are spilled all over the screen! Superhero movies have been holding back in scope. It is so awesome to see numerous heroes portrayed in live action. My advise to the skeptical: try to get over your fan hangups and get into it. I'm sure we've all got opinions on how to make the perfect Avengers movie (a Pym or a van Dyne would have been nice for my taste) but look! It's the avengers! In a movie! I'm pretty excited.

hulahulk
02-29-2012, 12:19 PM
They cant. Whenever a comic film comes around you tend to find one or more people finding something about the movie to complain about. Either it's about the costume design or if a certain actor or actress doesn't fit their fantasy image of a comic character that they like. It goes back to the old saying, you cant please everyone.

Yeah, I know. I just had to get that off my chest. I feel better now.

kalorama
02-29-2012, 12:20 PM
Third, notice how no one's complaining about Iron Man's armor?

No one's complaining about it now because they've had two full movies to see that it works/get used to it. But there were plenty of complaints about it when the trailer for the first movie was released.

ZeoVGM
02-29-2012, 12:26 PM
No one's complaining about it now because they've had two full movies to see that it works/get used to it. But there were plenty of complaints about it when the trailer for the first movie was released.

As a defender of the Captain America costume, what you just said isn't true. There absolutely were not "plenty of complaints" about it when the first trailer came out. It was widely accepted and praised for being based off the Extremis suit. A few people complaining about it comes nowhere near what we have hear with the Cap suit.

Dreadstar
02-29-2012, 12:36 PM
All the scrambling to be able to say "I hated it first!" and positioning for the longshot "I told you it would suck!" 4 months down the road is entertaining as hell.

That aside, that trailer is awesome. I'm going to see the movie forty-leven times, I tell you what.

kalorama
02-29-2012, 12:38 PM
As a defender of the Captain America costume, what you just said isn't true. There absolutely were not "plenty of complaints" about it when the first trailer came out. It was widely accepted and praised for being based off the Extremis suit. A few people complaining about it comes nowhere near what we have hear with the Cap suit.

Who said it did? I said there were complaints about how the suit looked on screen when the I.M. trailer came out. There were. I read/heard them.

ZeoVGM
02-29-2012, 12:47 PM
Who said it did? I said there were complaints about how the suit looked on screen when the I.M. trailer came out. There were. I read/heard them.

You said "plenty of", implying that there were a lot. There were not. The large majority of fans were positive.

kalorama
02-29-2012, 12:51 PM
You said "plenty of", implying that there were a lot. There were not. The large majority of fans were positive.

Whatever man. I'm not really interested in debating your nonexistent fan response survey data. My point was, is, and remains: people complained about the look of the Iron Man suit min the trailers, then got over it once they saw it in the actual movie. I fully expect the same to happen with Cap.

0bsessions
02-29-2012, 12:51 PM
As a defender of the Captain America costume, what you just said isn't true. There absolutely were not "plenty of complaints" about it when the first trailer came out. It was widely accepted and praised for being based off the Extremis suit. A few people complaining about it comes nowhere near what we have hear with the Cap suit.

Most of the complaining was about still images, which most of this is. Honestly, while I think the helmet looks remarkably idiotic, it's not nearly as jarring when he's moving around, which he will presumably be doing the vast majority of the time he's wearing it.

rasx
02-29-2012, 12:57 PM
I think it looks amazing. Captain Americas mask is weird, but I can get over that. Thor and Iron Mans costumes are the best in my opinion.

Yeah! besides Caps suit everyone else looks great, whoever Loki's friends are they look alien.

tingray
02-29-2012, 12:59 PM
Looks terrible. Iron Man and Hulk look great, the rest of the characters and costumes are woeful.
Also, the ending looks as though it was ripped-off from Transformers.

Looks awesome to me. I guess it doesn't matter what you do, some people just don't like anything. I can't wait to see this.

DeadXMan
02-29-2012, 01:01 PM
Awesome trailer. Cap's costume looks terrible though. Should've just gone with Bucky's Cap outfit if they wanted to go for modern. I think it's the mask. It look so out of place. And the costume itself looked a little tight, making it seem like he's not as big as Chris Evans actually is.

He's Captian America. Not Captian Porto Rico.

Karl Cook
02-29-2012, 01:05 PM
Looks awesome to me. I guess it doesn't matter what you do, some people just don't like anything. I can't wait to see this.

I like lots of things. The fact that this looks bad doesn't change that.

SephirothDZX
02-29-2012, 01:12 PM
Okay, first of all, there is at least 1 thing wrong with every movie that's ever been made. The fact that you cannot accept that there might be *1* thing people don't like in these previews is a failing of yours, not of the perfectly normal people who are able to recognize the good AND the bad.

You took what I said completely out of context. I was saying that if Marvel could make a 100% perfect replica of Caps costume, they'd still complain. Meaning they'd complain no matter what. It wasn't meant to be an "I cant accept that things arent perfect" statement. In fact, you pointing out that nothing is perfect only benefits my original point.


Second, the praise over the solo Cap movie uniforms far outweighed the criticism. Meanwhile, the criticism over Cap's Avengers movie costume far outweighs the praise. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce from this that they got it right in the Cap movie but wrong in the Avengers movie. Is it the end of the world? No, nor is anyone saying it is. We're just sharing our opinions. Calm down. As long as you're in the minority, it's you who should be looking to understand what everyone else is saying, not the other way around.

The complaints about Solo Cap & Avengers Cap costumes are actually pretty much even, to be honest.


Third, notice how no one's complaining about Iron Man's armor? That's because it looks nothing like the classic "spandex arms" suit. That suit worked in comic books, and would not fly - pardon the pun - with today's more sophisticated sci-fi movie goer. They introduced actual articulation points to the armor in the comics before using that design - NOT the classic one - in the movies. That's why it works. Because Marvel adapted.

Nobody complained about Iron Man's armor because Marvel pretty much copy/pasted Stark's Extremis Armor (http://cdn.screenrant.com/images/triple-granov-pose2-thumb.jpg) and used it as the Mark 3 armor for the movie, making minor changes here and there. Your comparison to Iron Man's movie costume and Cap's movie costume is a pretty bad one mainly because Stark's costume has changed over the years greatly while Cap's costume has stayed mostly the same. When it came movie time, Marvel just skipped right from the gray Mark 1 armor straight up to the sleek modern armor because it made sense.


Meanwhile, in every shot we see him in, Cap looks like he just walked out of a Comic Con, and his costume is being worn for the first time. If anything, it looks TOO MUCH like the classic one. They also failed to make it look worn. The tone of blue is too loyal to the comic book. So's the tone of red.

It looks new because it is new. Did you not see any of the screenshots (http://nerdsoftheroundtable.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/avengers-captain-america-costume.jpg)or anything that showed the new Cap costume sealed away in a display case until Rodgers got it? Heck, the costume was probably made specifically for him after they found out he was alive (how else did they get his shield nicely tucked away in the same display case?) Plus as the trailer goes on, along with other screenshots (http://lytherus.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/avengers5.jpg)out on the net, you can clearly see that Cap's costume takes a pretty good beating as things go on whilst Thor's magically stays in pristine fresh out of Asgard condition (yet I don't see you complaining about Thor's costume not looking like he's just walked out of the costume store)


There's a reason everyone is pointing at the Cap costume and laughing, but no one's laughing at Iron Man, Thor or the Hulk... all three of whom look just as clownish in the comic books, but were tweaked to not look too out of place in a real life setting.

That's the thing... they all look out of place in a real life setting though. Stark flies around in a gaudy yellow and red robot suit that has a ridiculous energy source, Hulk is a 10 foot tall POed jolly green giant, Thor runs around in a goofy rubber suit swinging a giant bulky hammer. How is a guy running around in a brand new red-white-and-blue uniform suddenly so terrible it? Answer - because its not. You're just complaining for the sake of complaining.

Sighphi
02-29-2012, 01:21 PM
I hate that Cap has super strength in the movies.
And i found it funny that Banner is a suit in what looks to be some sort abandoned shack.

Serik
02-29-2012, 01:21 PM
Most superhero costumes look ridiculous in the still images, but on film, after all the effects and whatnot have been added, they turn out alright.

Based on the ET interview I saw with RDJ and Mark Ruffalo, it sounds like Stark will be trying to piss Banner off throughout the movie, which should be really fun.

Drakoniz
02-29-2012, 01:26 PM
At 1:13 is Black Widow kicking Hawkeye? Also, I thought the movie was coming out May 4th?

SpideyCzar
02-29-2012, 01:38 PM
Can't.

Stop.

Watching.

This.

SpideyCzar
02-29-2012, 01:40 PM
I hate that Cap has super strength in the movies.
And i found it funny that Banner is a suit in what looks to be some sort abandoned shack.

What else would a super soldier serum do for you if not make you well...super?

LightningBug
02-29-2012, 01:47 PM
I hate that Cap has super strength in the movies.
And i found it funny that Banner is a suit in what looks to be some sort abandoned shack.

Uhm... Cap has always had enhanced strength in the comics. I didn't see him do anything in the movie that was inconsistent with his strength as it has always been portrayed.

Serik
02-29-2012, 01:50 PM
At 1:13 is Black Widow kicking Hawkeye? Also, I thought the movie was coming out May 4th?

It's going to be released on April 25 in several countries.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/releaseinfo

Eliseu Gouveia
02-29-2012, 01:54 PM
I hate that Cap has super strength in the movies.
And i found it funny that Banner is a suit in what looks to be some sort abandoned shack.

Maybe he travels to the nearby village for work, food and supplies?

Disco_Magic
02-29-2012, 01:57 PM
This movie looks like complete shite! Every costume sucks and I hate Joss Whedon and it's not true to the comics and everything else that's wrong with it is bad!

Just kidding!!! I can think of no conceivable way that this movie is going to disappoint me. I am super-psyched. Go Hawkeye & team!!!

Legato
02-29-2012, 02:01 PM
I hate that Cap has super strength in the movies. And i found it funny that Banner is a suit in what looks to be some sort abandoned shack.

..........Wow

Eliseu Gouveia
02-29-2012, 02:10 PM
My girl may not be as under-equipped as I feared.
I just noticed that her bracelets go purple when she reloads the handgun.

Is that a hint to the Widow´s Bite?

Prince Of Orphans
02-29-2012, 02:12 PM
He's Captian America. Not Captian Porto Rico.

I wasn't aware Bucky took up the name Captain Puerto Rico.

Cap's costume in general look like the Puerto Rican flag to begin with, that just comes with the flags being similar. And if it really bothers you, they could've just rounded the point and everyone would be happy.

FIFTY-TWO (52)
02-29-2012, 02:17 PM
I like lots of things. The fact that this looks bad doesn't change that.

Well, it looks good to me, with the exception of Cap's goofy helmet.
Anyways, I'm gonna tailor my expectations. Word has it that the execs and early viewers don't think it's cinematic enough, and that there's way too much talking in the movie. Other than that, it's met and exceeded expectations.
But we all know the good, flashy parts are in the trailers, so, we'll see

kalorama
02-29-2012, 02:21 PM
My girl may not be as under-equipped as I feared.
I just noticed that her bracelets go purple when she reloads the handgun.

Is that a hint to the Widow´s Bite?

They turn blue on my monitor (so one of us may need to calibrate). But otherwise . . . good eye.

kalorama
02-29-2012, 02:22 PM
Word has it that the execs and early viewers don't think it's cinematic enough, and that there's way too much talking in the movie.

In a Joss Whedon movie? What are the odds?

Drakoniz
02-29-2012, 02:25 PM
My girl may not be as under-equipped as I feared.
I just noticed that her bracelets go purple when she reloads the handgun.

Is that a hint to the Widow´s Bite?

I had to go back and watch that, completely missed that happening.

Nate Grey
02-29-2012, 02:26 PM
I thought the robot serpent at the end was a sort of robotic version of Fin Fang Foom created by Stark. Guess we'll have to wait to see the movie to find out/see the context.


And the trailer looked awesome to me. No complaints.

TheFinisher4Ever
02-29-2012, 03:52 PM
In my opinion, it looks amazing! My only complaint (which won't in any way hinder my enjoyment of the movie) is I dislike Mark Ruffolo. I still think he is a terrible Bruce Banner. And I'm fine with the Cap's costume, although the helmet looks a little odd. When he isn't wearing the helmet, it looks fantastic. I'm so excited!

Groot
02-29-2012, 03:52 PM
He's Captian America. Not Captian Porto Rico.

How was that a reply to the person you were speaking to? At this point I felt like there might be undetected fumes in my living room and that I was stoned. Could be Captain Texas if you like better, it has the one star and the colour pattern but not the stripes.
When you think of it Captain America is as much Captain Puerto Rico as he is Captain Texas.



I wasn't aware Bucky took up the name Captain Puerto Rico.

Cap's costume in general look like the Puerto Rican flag to begin with, that just comes with the flags being similar. And if it really bothers you, they could've just rounded the point and everyone would be happy.

Hmm, wonder why that flag is similar? Oh yah a bit of history is tangled into that one.
Union Jack should be the one pissed off in all of this, without the United Kingdom flag the American one might have ended up looking different.

kmeyers
02-29-2012, 04:03 PM
HOLEEEEE FLURKING SNIT!!!

WOW, this looks awesome.

hysang
02-29-2012, 04:08 PM
Movie looks pretty sexy.

I also have to chime in about all of the hate for Caps costume, I dont get why. People initially whined that the WW2 era costume didnt look enough like Caps, then they give you a costume that looks a bit more like Cap's normal costume and now people whine that its not the WW2 costume.

They could make a 100% perfect replica of Cap's comic suit and people would say something's wrong about it.

Simple: some fans will whine about anything. Ignore them.

The_Ronin
02-29-2012, 04:14 PM
In a Joss Whedon movie? What are the odds?

And by Execs and early audiences he means, one guy wrote on his blog that his friend who saw it said it wasn't cinematic enough.


I swear to god when the only thing detractors can bitch about is the aspect ratio then its a pretty damn good sign.

Aaric Rivad
02-29-2012, 04:43 PM
All the scrambling to be able to say "I hated it first!" and positioning for the longshot "I told you it would suck!" 4 months down the road is entertaining as hell.

That aside, that trailer is awesome. I'm going to see the movie forty-leven times, I tell you what.

Pretty much captures my feelings about the whole thing.

I'm as psyched as I've been since the first time I saw the bootleg Iron Man trailer. This movie has waaay too much talent involved to be anything besides awesome.

hugh45
02-29-2012, 04:43 PM
This doesn't have even a hint of the same vibe as Transformers did. The energy of the story is completely different. The actors are phenomenal. You're just saying it sucks to be contrite.

This trailer kicks every other super-hero movies ass. This is going to be the year of the Avengers.

AMEN Brother. Some people just want to complain (Why I'm not surprise):wink:

KurtW95
02-29-2012, 05:02 PM
Is that supposed to be the Midgard Serpent at the end?

CrazyOldHermit
02-29-2012, 05:25 PM
Cap's costume still looks stupid. I agree with all sentiments that say it looks like something out of Comic-Con. It just boggles the mind how when every other superhero costume is given a bunch of texture (Spider-Man, Batman, new Superman, X-Men, etc) they take a costume that already had their beloved texture and removed it. The WWII costume worked great because it wasn't supposed to be the "real" Captain America suit, it was just supposed to look like it. Even the costume that was supposed to look cheesy (the USO costume) looks better than this, which is truly ridiculous. Maybe its because the blue was darker. Or maybe it was because the thin fabric let more of Chris Evans' physique come through, giving him more of a pure superhero look. Or maybe because through and through it was the original design. I don't know what it is, but it still somehow looks better to my eye than what we're seeing here.

Aside from that, the movie looks amazing.

KurtW95
02-29-2012, 06:26 PM
Cap's costume still looks stupid. I agree with all sentiments that say it looks like something out of Comic-Con. It just boggles the mind how when every other superhero costume is given a bunch of texture (Spider-Man, Batman, new Superman, X-Men, etc) they take a costume that already had their beloved texture and removed it. The WWII costume worked great because it wasn't supposed to be the "real" Captain America suit, it was just supposed to look like it. Even the costume that was supposed to look cheesy (the USO costume) looks better than this, which is truly ridiculous. Maybe its because the blue was darker. Or maybe it was because the thin fabric let more of Chris Evans' physique come through, giving him more of a pure superhero look. Or maybe because through and through it was the original design. I don't know what it is, but it still somehow looks better to my eye than what we're seeing here.

Aside from that, the movie looks amazing.

I still wish it looked like my photoshopped version.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/269789_113486595408021_100002400445734_132016_4475 253_n.jpg

Eliseu Gouveia
02-29-2012, 06:31 PM
If the banter is anything close to the one in Firefly/Serenity I seriously won´t mind a "wordy" Joss Whedon movie in the slightest.

Chiasm
02-29-2012, 07:05 PM
Well, it looks good to me, with the exception of Cap's goofy helmet.
Anyways, I'm gonna tailor my expectations. Word has it that the execs and early viewers don't think it's cinematic enough, and that there's way too much talking in the movie. Other than that, it's met and exceeded expectations.
But we all know the good, flashy parts are in the trailers, so, we'll see

Which probably means this movie is going to be awesome. Too many times they go for flash over substance (X-men 3 for instance which looked pretty but sucked story wise).

Chiasm
02-29-2012, 07:07 PM
Serenity is what gives me full confidence in Joss on this.

I'd never seen Firefly prior to seeing Serenity and I nearly didn't go see Serenity (I thought the trailer sucked) but they put the first nine minutes of Serenity online which intrigued me enough to see the movie . . . twice. Serenity is now my favorite film and if Joss even manages to do half of what he did there Avengers will be a great movie.

thwhtGuardian
02-29-2012, 07:36 PM
Cap's suit looks fine to me.

hacman00
02-29-2012, 08:04 PM
Cap's suit looks fine to me.

I'm wondering if they chose the material for Cap's suit because it's more functional given the stunts they had planned. Batman's rubber suits looked ok but the actors couldn't move in the damn things.

Darth Tigris
02-29-2012, 10:33 PM
I can´t even remember the last time I was this excited to see a movie.

You know, if THIS doesn't get you SUPER excited as a comic geek, then there truly, TRULY is no hope for you to ever be happy with anything. Like Eliseu said, I don't know IF I've ever been more pumped for a single movie ever in my 30+ years of movie going. This trailer just emptied me of just about all bodily fluids.

I mean, LOOK at this!!!!

89227

40yearoldnovafan
02-29-2012, 11:07 PM
I'm wondering if they chose the material for Cap's suit because it's more functional given the stunts they had planned. Batman's rubber suits looked ok but the actors couldn't move in the damn things.

I was going to point this out.

I really liked the uniform in the Cap movie, however, there was not a lot of acrobatic action. That suit was more like armor, which did not move much.

Now, one of the things which makes Cap's helmet look odd is that it does not flow down the neckinto the costume, like the comic's does. It is a helmet on top of a slim neck. No, flow. But this is so Cap can turn his neck. I noticed the same think in the Dark Knight. Batman's helmet was on top of a skinny neck. In the first Batman movie, his head gear flowed down the neck and into his cape. But, as movie makers mentioned, Batman could not turn his head until they made the changes for the second movie.

Am I crazy about the helmet? Initially I wasn't. But it looked better in this trailer. And I do believe Cap will have his helmet off during a lot of this movie.

Personally, I watched this trailer a lot. I believe this movie will rock. I enjoy a lot of Joss Whedon's work - especially Firefly, and Serenity. I enjoyed Angel and Buffy. Whedon is a comic fan. I think this movie will be big, big, big.

Jimmy

Meadow
02-29-2012, 11:14 PM
I'm really looking forward to the film, but Cap's costume just looks plain stupid. Call me a "hater" or whatever for that, I don't really care. The costume design is silly beyond belief to begin with, and I really appreciated the effort they took in TFA to make it look more plausible and serious. Translating directly from page to screen doesn't always bring good results, as evidenced by Cap's new costume.

LightningBug
02-29-2012, 11:50 PM
You know, if THIS doesn't get you SUPER excited as a comic geek, then there truly, TRULY is no hope for you to ever be happy with anything. Like Eliseu said, I don't know IF I've ever been more pumped for a single movie ever in my 30+ years of movie going. This trailer just emptied me of just about all bodily fluids.

I mean, LOOK at this!!!!

89227

I'm with you dude. That picture pretty much makes my brain explode and my face melt. May cannot come fast enough.

Arvandor
03-01-2012, 04:27 AM
That was awesome.

I was starting to feel a bit burned out on Avengers, but that film has me stoked again. I'm more desperate to see it now than ever.

Simbob4000
03-01-2012, 04:42 AM
lol what? How in the world can you think Thor's character and costume is "woeful"? How else do you expect him to look exactly?

And Cap's costume looks, you know, just like Captain America. The mask is a little off at times but the rest of the costume is great.

Thor's costume looks bad, it looks like a cheap tokusatsu superhero version of the one from the Thor movie, and the Thor movie one already had a Power Rangers meets Thor vibe going on with it (I actually kind of like that), but at least it looked like it was made for a movie, this new one looks like they stole it from the low budget Thor tv show none of knew about.

http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/thor_compare.jpg

liopleurodon
03-01-2012, 05:00 AM
When you think of it Captain America is as much Captain Puerto Rico as he is Captain Texas..

*Applause* I commend your sanity.

Anyway, I loved this trailer. I mean, how can a comics geek like me not swoon with excitement when I see Thor and Iron Man going at it. I do hope Thor beats the living bejesus out of him.

Color me excited, I'm gonna watch this trailer sooo many times.

MarvelMaster616
03-01-2012, 05:27 AM
Loved this trailer! But I really didn't need any more reasons to see this movie than I already have. And it really didn't reveal much more other than how the team is trying to recruit Bruce Banner and the lengths Loki will go to in order to be worshipped. I wish they would reveal more about Hawkeye, who really hasn't been explored yet. But I'm sure he'll have his moments in this movie just as I'm sure it'll be an assault on all the senses in a way that only Joss Whedon can deliever.

Phil Clark
03-01-2012, 07:42 AM
Thor's costume looks bad, it looks like a cheap tokusatsu superhero version of the one from the Thor movie, and the Thor movie one already had a Power Rangers meets Thor vibe going on with it (I actually kind of like that), but at least it looked like it was made for a movie, this new one looks like they stole it from the low budget Thor tv show none of knew about.

http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/thor_compare.jpg

Truthfully, even those of us here who are "fanboys" would be hard pressed to point out the exact changes made to Thor's costume without a side-by-side comparison like this. And I bet 90% of the audiences who saw Thor won't even notice there is a difference, the changes are basically pretty subtle. Just minor aesthetic changes that really don't radically impact the overall look. It's not like the changes from the 60's Batman costume to the Burton Batman Costume to the Nolan Batman costume.

Hell, even the Spiderman redesign was more radical.

thwhtGuardian
03-01-2012, 07:51 AM
Thor's costume looks bad, it looks like a cheap tokusatsu superhero version of the one from the Thor movie, and the Thor movie one already had a Power Rangers meets Thor vibe going on with it (I actually kind of like that), but at least it looked like it was made for a movie, this new one looks like they stole it from the low budget Thor tv show none of knew about.

http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/8073/thor_compare.jpg

Looks more or less the same to me, certainly not cheaper looking in any way. The only differences I can see are that he has longer grieves, the blue is a little brighter, the design of the"clasps" on his shoulders that hold his cape are slightly less stylized and his Thor buttons seem to be connected as if they are a part of some kid of chest plate rather than being attached to his tunic. All of those changes are fairly minor and very cosmetic...and don't look cheap at all, the quality looks the same.

kalorama
03-01-2012, 09:53 AM
The other thing to take into account is that the photo on the left appears to be an official production still, which means that it was properly staged and lit for maximum effect before it was shot and probably processed and touched up to the Nth degree after it was shot. The one on the right is a "candid," apparently lo-res, onset still with no movie (or Photoshop) magic layered on top of it. So it goes without saying that the one would look more polished and visually striking than the other.

Eliseu Gouveia
03-01-2012, 09:58 AM
I´m curious, have you guys noticed Hawkeye hasn´t said a single line in any of the trailers?

I can´t WAIT to see how the group dynamics will work in terms of personality or if Joss will feel tempted to use some of the Firefly archetypes.

I can see...

Tony and Clint as the jovial duo, cracking jokes at everyone else´s expenses (especially the two resident stiffs, Banner and Cap*).
You could write a whole plethora of scennes with Tony trying to make Banner lose it.
Natasha will probably be ms. prim´n´proper as well, no time for play, all about the mission (http://stickylearning.typepad.com/.a/6a010535c38f18970b010536c0588b970b-500pi).
That leaves Thor somewhere inbetween.
I imagine him at first all thundergodly (I SERIOUSLY doubt even Tony will wanna invoke the rage of Myeu-muh).. up to the part where he gets his hands on some ale.

So, three stiffs and three clowns with Fury trying to reign everybody in.

This should be fun. :D

*The fun part here, and this is where Joss excels, is that the two stiffs are played by two guys who are known for their humorous side. If you saw Sacha Baron in Hugo, you´ll know that nothing is funnier than a joker trying to act all straight arrow.

LightningBug
03-01-2012, 10:32 AM
One reason that I really like Captain America's costume for this movie is that it is basically the only superhero costume in recent film memory (that I can think of) that looks like a person could actually put on and move around in. It actually looks pretty comfortable to me. Actually, I'll give that praise to Hawkeye and Widow too. Compare their costumes to all the bulky Bat suits over the years, Spidermans constrictive leotard, the horribly uncomfortable looking motocross leather x-suits, Thor's rubber arms, and even Cap's bulky costume from his first film. This suit looks like something that somebody could actually wear to a fight and manage to move their arms enough to win.

Phil Clark
03-01-2012, 12:09 PM
The other thing to keep in mind about the shot of the Avengers Thor costume is that on set there are two (or more) versions of the costumes and prop weapons. There is a stunt version made to be more flexible and loose fitting, and any hard pieces are instead made of rubber or some other "safe" material, and then there is a "hero" version of the costume where everything is made to look good and be real and functional. Metal is metal or rigid fiberglass. So maybe the shot of the costume from the Avengers used for comparison here is the "stunt" costume, not the "hero" costume.

Simbob4000
03-01-2012, 01:52 PM
Truthfully, even those of us here who are "fanboys" would be hard pressed to point out the exact changes made to Thor's costume without a side-by-side comparison like this. And I bet 90% of the audiences who saw Thor won't even notice there is a difference, the changes are basically pretty subtle. Just minor aesthetic changes that really don't radically impact the overall look. It's not like the changes from the 60's Batman costume to the Burton Batman Costume to the Nolan Batman costume.

Hell, even the Spiderman redesign was more radical.

Really? I could tell a huge difference just from seeing the teaser trailer, the changes are huge, all of the "metal" on the Thor old costume seems to have been replaced, like where the old one was, I think, molded plastic, the new one looks like it's made of some kind of hard rubber, maybe it isn't, maybe it's just the bad looking paint job, but it looks faker then the one from the Thor movie.

Arachnid
03-01-2012, 02:43 PM
Really? I could tell a huge difference just from seeing the teaser trailer, the changes are huge, all of the "metal" on the Thor old costume seems to have been replaced, like where the old one was, I think, molded plastic, the new one looks like it's made of some kind of hard rubber, maybe it isn't, maybe it's just the bad looking paint job, but it looks faker then the one from the Thor movie.

I'm with Phil on this. I couldn't tell any real difference when I watched it and I'm a fan. After really looking though, I think the changes make it look better. Take a look at these photos:
http://www.geekrest.com/2011/10/new-photo-from-the-avengers-features-thor-and-captain-america/
89261
89262
89263

Thor looks f*cking awesome. His costume looks mostly the same, with little changes like the gauntlets and the design on his boots, but everything looks the same for the most part. It looks even better in the pics of him without the armor arms and the small cape. The pic posted took looks bad, but someone already explained that it's without all the nice finishing touches.

Chiasm
03-01-2012, 03:09 PM
I´m curious, have you guys noticed Hawkeye hasn´t said a single line in any of the trailers?



Its because no one outside of comic book fans know who he is. Technically he was in the Thor movie but it such a brief cameo that most probably don't even remember it. So naturally they are going to focus on the characters the non comic crowd knows and that Iron Man, Cap, and Thor.

Simbob4000
03-01-2012, 07:41 PM
I'm with Phil on this. I couldn't tell any real difference when I watched it and I'm a fan. After really looking though, I think the changes make it look better. Take a look at these photos:
http://www.geekrest.com/2011/10/new-photo-from-the-avengers-features-thor-and-captain-america/
89261
89262
89263

Thor looks f*cking awesome. His costume looks mostly the same, with little changes like the gauntlets and the design on his boots, but everything looks the same for the most part. It looks even better in the pics of him without the armor arms and the small cape. The pic posted took looks bad, but someone already explained that it's without all the nice finishing touches.

My opinion of it is from the trailers, I haven't liked the way it looked since the teaser, which I kind of said in the message you quoted. The side by side I posted was just one of the first things I saw when I googled it that gave you a good look at both. The new costume looks cheap, it looks like it's made of a hard foam or rubber, and the bad metal paint job doesn't helping it. The costumes look very different, the design of the chest plate with pseudo belt, the gauntlets, and the boots are all different, that's the whole costume.

40yearoldnovafan
03-02-2012, 07:40 AM
My opinion of it is from the trailers, I haven't liked the way it looked since the teaser, which I kind of said in the message you quoted. The side by side I posted was just one of the first things I saw when I googled it that gave you a good look at both. The new costume looks cheap, it looks like it's made of a hard foam or rubber, and the bad metal paint job doesn't helping it. The costumes look very different, the design of the chest plate with pseudo belt, the gauntlets, and the boots are all different, that's the whole costume.

Here's the thing about Thor's armor change. When I initially saw it, I told my wife they should not have made the change. It did not look bad to me, it just was not as polished or pretty. But it looked fine. But when I've seen it in action, it is actually pretty good.

Now, if you watch the special features on Thor's bluray, you'll hear that the actors could not move around much with that restricting armor on. They could not bend or do much of anything. Sif said it was like a body brace, forcing you to stand straight. In super hero movies it is common to make changes to the suits in sequels because they learned the shortfalls from previous movies. It has happened to Batman, the Thing (Fantastic Four), etc. And like I said earlier, it has obviously happened to Captain America.

In these big fight movies, you have to have freedom of movement. That means more foam and more cloth. They want their heroes to be able to fight, jump, bend - what ever. They cannot do that with heavy plastic armor. It may look better, but it is too restrictive.

They got away with it in Iron Man because they did a lot of costly digital work. But they would prefer for the actors to be less digital as possible.

Jimmy

StoneGold
03-02-2012, 06:00 PM
OK, that was a good trailer. In that it tells a little mini-story without really giving away the movie.

I mean, it gives away the general theme. Alpha dogs learning how to work together. It's kind of interesting, there's a bunch of Avengers disassembling footage, and then Hulk saves Tony.

And then everything else is fanboy minutae bullshit.

Kasper Cole
03-03-2012, 06:59 AM
One thing I'm really looking forward too is seeing how everyone reacts to the idea that Thor is a god....

Eliseu Gouveia
03-03-2012, 11:22 AM
One thing I'm really looking forward too is seeing how everyone reacts to the idea that Thor is a god....

Tony´s reaction in particular should be hillarious.

The Cool Thatguy
03-03-2012, 12:20 PM
Was Thor ever stated to be an actual god in his movie? Because IIRC, when the idea was alluded to,, it was stated that Thor's people were simply mistaken for Gods by primitive cultures because their abilities.

Superbeast
03-03-2012, 12:35 PM
They established Loki and Thor were real from the Norse myths. They didn't refer to them as Gods, as you say the character of Jane Foster theorised there was a dimensional link that had been severed and so beings that once came to Earth no longer could but that essentially just makes him an alien or being from another dimension rather than a God.

kalorama
03-03-2012, 12:38 PM
Was Thor ever stated to be an actual god in his movie? Because IIRC, when the idea was alluded to,, it was stated that Thor's people were simply mistaken for Gods by primitive cultures because their abilities.

It was more than alluded to. I just watched it on blu-ray a couple days ago; when they're talking about invading Jotenheim, Fandral says "It's not like going to Earth, where you toss a few lightening bolts around and they worship you as a god." That seems like a pretty direct acknowledgement among themselves that they aren't actually gods.

On an semi-related note: It wasn't until I watched it again that it hit me that the guy who plays Fandral is the same one who plays David/Prince Charming in Once Upon a Time.

Jared
03-03-2012, 07:33 PM
On an semi-related note: It wasn't until I watched it again that it hit me that the guy who plays Fandral is the same one who plays David/Prince Charming in Once Upon a Time.

I had no idea. Odder still that Hemsworth is playing The Huntsman in a Snow White movie.

Eliseu Gouveia
03-04-2012, 10:55 AM
These ten bucks say that we´ll get to see Cap lift the Myeu-muh!

Jared
03-04-2012, 12:25 PM
There's no way around it now, the new Cap really does look terrible. It's distractingly bad. It won't ruin the movie, but I fear it will be an annoyance in all his scenes. The mask is the worst part. Hopefully it gets knocked off and he goes through most of the climactic battle without it. I don't understand how Joss and the execs above him all looked at that suit in dailies and thought it looked good enough for the film.

The rest of the suit makes Cap look lankier than he should be be. It's step down from the Cap movie suit. By itself it wouldn't be that big a deal, though. The mask though...ugh. It's awful. It's so bad that I think they need to lampshade it with a joke on screen, probably by Tony.

Widow looks kind of funny in that hero shot: there's a monster, a god, a super soldier and power armor, and she's there with her dinky little pistol. Even Hawkeye comes off better, to the casual viewer, because you *know* if he only has a bow he must be super bad ass.

I think the dragon-zord thing appeared to be some kind of troop-carrier in the other trailer.

comicfan298
03-04-2012, 08:08 PM
I had no idea. Odder still that Hemsworth is playing The Huntsman in a Snow White movie.

Odder than that Volstage was played by the Punisher, Ray Stevenson. As for the trailer it looks amazing, the only bad thing I can say is the new title for the UK. Its awful, they could of come up with something better If it really does confuse people. Though I don't know how you can confuse this with an old spy tv show when you have Hulk, Iron Man and Thor on the poster.

Phil Clark
03-05-2012, 10:20 AM
Reports are that the finished film clocks in at 2 1/2 hours. YEAH!!!! Please please please don't cut it down to make if fit too short a run time for the epic nature of the story.

Dreadstar
03-05-2012, 10:31 AM
Reports are that the finished film clocks in at 2 1/2 hours. YEAH!!!! Please please please don't cut it down to make if fit too short a run time for the epic nature of the story.

I hope they don't either, but you have to remember, the difference between a 2 hour movie and a 2 1/2 hour movie is (approximately) 25% less showings per screen. That can make a lot of difference in the walk-up box office (not 25%, of course, but significant). That can be one of those points where the studio management steps in and throws its weight around.

On the bright side, if the product looks good and the B.O. prognostication is high, the studio execs tend to leave well enough alone. After all, the three biggest domestic box office movies of all time are all 2 1/2 hours or more.

Kasper Cole
03-05-2012, 10:46 AM
I hope they don't either, but you have to remember, the difference between a 2 hour movie and a 2 1/2 hour movie is (approximately) 25% less showings per screen. That can make a lot of difference in the walk-up box office (not 25%, of course, but significant). That can be one of those points where the studio management steps in and throws its weight around.

On the bright side, if the product looks good and the B.O. prognostication is high, the studio execs tend to leave well enough alone. After all, the three biggest domestic box office movies of all time are all 2 1/2 hours or more.


Which goes to show how stupid Studio execs can be.

The Dark Knight
Avatar
The Lord of the Rings trilogy
The Harry Potter films

All hugely successful films with long running times. If the movie is good people will be willing to sit for a long period of time to enjoy. If a film is REALLY good people won't even notice the film is over 2 hours long.

Phil Clark
03-05-2012, 12:49 PM
The longest movie I ever sat through was only 110 minutes long, and it felt like 5 hours. The Royal Tannebaums. Miserable piece of crap.

Dreadstar
03-05-2012, 01:04 PM
That means you've never seen any of the films Kasper enumerated, or:

The Godfather!
Star Wars
Iron Man
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Jaws
Gone with the Wind
Back to the Future
True Grit (1969)
The Searchers
Spider-man
and...
way too many movies to be mentioned here, really...

Phil Clark
03-05-2012, 02:15 PM
Dreadstar, you missed the meaning of my post. I meant that the length of a film doesn't indicate how long it feels. I have actually watched the 3 hour 18 minute tour de force "Gandhi" and it was the shortest 3 hours and 18 minutes of entertaining filmmaking I have yet seen. By my reckoning, the length (perceived) of a film is measured by how often you look at your watch (or phone) to check how much longer until the movie is over. I lost count of how many times I checked the time during the Royal Tannenbaums.

Dreadstar
03-05-2012, 02:24 PM
Dreadstar, you missed the meaning of my post. I meant that the length of a film doesn't indicate how long it feels. I have actually watched the 3 hour 18 minute tour de force "Gandhi" and it was the shortest 3 hours and 18 minutes of entertaining filmmaking I have yet seen. By my reckoning, the length (perceived) of a film is measured by how often you look at your watch (or phone) to check how much longer until the movie is over. I lost count of how many times I checked the time during the Royal Tannenbaums.

Ah, my bad. It's the equivalent of saying "I spent a week in Philadelphia one day."

Carry on.

Arachnid
03-05-2012, 06:51 PM
Ah, my bad. It's the equivalent of saying "I spent a week in Philadelphia one day."

Carry on.Sure, if take it's meaning in such a literal manner. He just means time seems to go by slower or faster relative to how much you're enjoying your activity.

“Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. THAT'S relativity.”

Dreadstar
03-06-2012, 06:19 AM
Sure, if take it's meaning in such a literal manner. He just means time seems to go by slower or faster relative to how much you're enjoying your activity.

You *do* realize that "I spent a week in Philadelphia one day" is exactly what you're describing, right?

Murrocko
03-14-2012, 09:04 PM
Japanese trailer has some new scenes along with a possible better look at whatever it is they're battling against in the movie.


http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/

kalorama
03-14-2012, 10:26 PM
Japanese trailer has some new scenes along with a possible better look at whatever it is they're battling against in the movie.


http://special.movies.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120315076798/

Interesting. I thought Paltrow wasn't going to be in the movie.

1505627
03-14-2012, 10:40 PM
Interesting. I thought Paltrow wasn't going to be in the movie.

they announced a while ago that she'd appear in a bit part

anthony!
03-15-2012, 06:30 AM
I wish they'd be able to get in a Jane Foster and a Betty Ross/Thunderbolt Ross appearance. Maybe we'll get dialogue that acknowledges all that.

The Ross/Stark scene at the end of The Incredible Hulk implied to me that somehow Ross would lend a hand in tracking wherever Bruce went, or something to do with the super soldier serum.

Part of the appeal of a 'crossover' movie like this is that each character's world collides, so maybe Pepper Potts gets a scene with Betty Ross, or Jane Foster shares a moment with Tony Stark, etc.

Granted, that's asking a lot of a movie like this, but it nevertheless is a part of the fanboy's imagination.

1505627
03-15-2012, 07:04 AM
I wish they'd be able to get in a Jane Foster and a Betty Ross/Thunderbolt Ross appearance. Maybe we'll get dialogue that acknowledges all that.

The Ross/Stark scene at the end of The Incredible Hulk implied to me that somehow Ross would lend a hand in tracking wherever Bruce went, or something to do with the super soldier serum.

Part of the appeal of a 'crossover' movie like this is that each character's world collides, so maybe Pepper Potts gets a scene with Betty Ross, or Jane Foster shares a moment with Tony Stark, etc.

Granted, that's asking a lot of a movie like this, but it nevertheless is a part of the fanboy's imagination.

according to the marvel short film 'The Consultant', agent coulson sent stark to meet with ross in order to ask the general to release the abomination so he could join the avengers. appearently the WSC was pressuring shield to do it. Stark pissed Ross off enough for him to refuse, which is what coulson was counting on

The Cool Thatguy
03-15-2012, 05:52 PM
Personally, I'm most curious how they're gonna handle Thor.

At the end of his movie, he was trapped on Asgard. Obviously, that won't stick, but I wonder how they're gonna get him to earth and, in all likelyhood, back and trapped on Asgard for his sequel. That's gonna take some juggling.

1505627
03-15-2012, 06:22 PM
Personally, I'm most curious how they're gonna handle Thor.

At the end of his movie, he was trapped on Asgard. Obviously, that won't stick, but I wonder how they're gonna get him to earth and, in all likelyhood, back and trapped on Asgard for his sequel. That's gonna take some juggling.

cosmic cube?

anthony!
03-15-2012, 06:46 PM
Well, we know that Loki gains the cosmic cube and possesses the scientist guy from Thor. My guess would be that he somehow helps SHIELD call upon Thor, or Loki somehow "pulls" Thor down to Earth.

Drakoniz
03-23-2012, 07:30 PM
Have a quick question.. Not sure what trailer or which Marvel movie the scene was from. But it was where the one guy from Shield who has been in Thor and so on. (Not Samuel L) I think he is talking to Tony Stark and he picks up Capt. America's shield and goes "where did you get this?"

Serik
03-23-2012, 07:47 PM
Have a quick question.. Not sure what trailer or which Marvel movie the scene was from. But it was where the one guy from Shield who has been in Thor and so on. (Not Samuel L) I think he is talking to Tony Stark and he picks up Capt. America's shield and goes "where did you get this?"

The character you're thinking of is Agent Coulson, and that scene is from Iron Man 2. Stark's finishing the particle accelerator and uses Cap's shield to level out one of the tubes.

kalorama
03-23-2012, 07:57 PM
The character you're thinking of is Agent Coulson, and that scene is from Iron Man 2. Stark's finishing the particle accelerator and uses Cap's shield to level out one of the tubes.

It's actually a half-finished replica of Cap's shield.

Drakoniz
03-23-2012, 08:49 PM
The character you're thinking of is Agent Coulson, and that scene is from Iron Man 2. Stark's finishing the particle accelerator and uses Cap's shield to level out one of the tubes.

Ahh right right. Thanks, so far I have yet to see that movie. Need to check it out then.