View Full Version : I feel the need to break out my baseball bat again
Perry Holley
01-28-2005, 03:07 PM
Because, with some idiots, you just want to give them a good whacking.
"WTC victims deserved to die" (http://1010wins.com/topstories/local_story_028065739.html)
Following the Sept. 11 attacks, Churchill wrote an essay, "Some People Push Back: On the Justice of Roosting Chickens," that hailed the "gallant sacrifices" of the "combat teams" that struck America.
He said the World Trade Center victims deserved to die because they were a willing part of "the mighty engine of profit."
"True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break," Churchill wrote.
Churchill went on to describe the World Trade Center victims as "little Eichmanns," a reference to Adolf Eichmann, who organized Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's plan to exterminate Europe's Jews during World War II.
Ugh.
Rallura
01-28-2005, 03:20 PM
Exactly. It's about time someone punished the janitors, delivery people, secretaries, and let's not forget those evil file room clerks, not to mention the passers by on the street...
Deathstroke
01-28-2005, 03:29 PM
Someone needs to die, but I think the world would be better off if the writer of that link was the one.
SUPERECWFAN1
01-28-2005, 04:37 PM
Some people make being an asshole Into an artform.
Matt Algren
01-28-2005, 05:13 PM
I'd disagree on the whacking part (I'd hate to encourage physical attacks), but if someone wanted to voice their displeasure I'm sure the good folks at the University of Colorado at Boulder, where Ward is the Chair of Ethnic Studies, would just love to hear from you. Ward has been spewing hate like this for a looooooooong time. Try these addresses:
Dr. Elizabeth Hoffman, President of the University of Colorado system (president@cu.edu) phone number 303-492-6201
Philip P. DiStefano, Interim Chancellor, University of Colorado at Boulder (chanchat@spot.colorado.edu) 303-492-8908
Zan V. Johns, Director, Human Resources (Zan.Johns@colorado.edu) (303) 492-6893
Ward Churchill (Ward.Churchill@Colorado.EDU), the disturbed individual in question
Jose Martinez, (Jose.Martinez@colorado.edu ) (Ward's assistant) (Josm@stripe.colorado.edu) (Two addresses for some reason.)
Then there's the Board of Regents:
Jerry G. Rutledge, chairman (regentrutledge@home.net),
Gail Schwartz, vice-chairwoman (Gail.Schwartz@colorado.edu),
Peter F. Steinhauer (Peter.Steinhauer@colorado.edu),
Paul Schauer (Regent.Schauer@Colorado.edu),
Thomas J. Lucero, Jr. (tommyjclay@aol.com),
Steve Bosley (Regent.Bosley@colorado.edu),
Cindy Carlisle (Regent.Carlisle@Colorado.edu),
Michael Carrigan (Carrigan@colorado.edu).
But first educate yourself on what Ward believes. Here's a link (http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/WC022203.html) to a speech he gave in Feb 2003. Following is a quote from the transcript.
Question [from the audience]: It's so beautiful to encounter actual education. Thank you so much for coming. I'm asking for some guidance in the immediate future. If you had to plan for direct action around the war what kinds of things would you plan in addition to taking over capitalist centers [such as the World Trade Center]? Taking over intersections? What other kinds of things would you do?
Ward Churchill: The way I go at it is to assume there's nothing infallible. The question is whether there's going to be a symbolic action for some particular purpose that can be articulated in order to try to bring people together so that they can understand the collectivity of interests. This type of action is an educational experience more than anything else It's exemplary action when you do something else. If you're going to do something else you sit, and to the best of your ability, try to figure out what they figure you're going to do. Once you've identified that, do something else.
Let me add one little caveat to that. If you have vested in the sanctity of property and order then you're vested in identifying with that which you claim to oppose. You have a confusion and you need to fix that. Once you get over that confusion you have a decisive advantage. They have the guns, the numbers, the organization, the computers and all the rest of that. You've got autonomy. They have to try to defend all this mass. You're picking your targets. You're picking your ground. They have no idea where you're coming from. Do it right. Okay? Now fire.
Here's a link (http://www.darknightpress.org/index.php?i=news&c=recent&view=9&long=1) to the article that the news report cited. That's right, it was written on September 11, 2001.
Matt Algren
02-01-2005, 02:41 PM
Two wins for the good guys, with one more on the way. (Too bad about the death threats, though.)
Churchill resigns (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145871,00.html) Churchill resigned as chairman of the Ethnic Studies Department, telling university officials in a letter that "the present political climate has rendered me a liability in terms of representing either my department, the college, or the university."
University officials welcomed the move.
"While Professor Churchill has the constitutional right to express his political views, his essay on 9/11 has outraged and appalled us and the general public," interim CU-Boulder Chancellor Phil DiStefano said in a statement.
Speech cancelled (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,146066,00.html) CLINTON, NY — Hamilton College said Tuesday it has received death threats and was canceling a panel discussion featuring a professor who provoked a furor when he compared Sept. 11 victims to Nazis.Board of Regents meeting to discuss Churchill's future at UofCB (
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,146039,00.html) Churchill resigned Monday as chairman of the ethnic studies department at the University of Colorado at Boulder, and the Board of Regents there is holding an emergency meeting Thursday to discuss his future.
hulahulk
02-01-2005, 03:37 PM
Churchill and his ilk are pseudo-intellectuals at their worst. It is because of idiots like this that I grew weary of the ultra-liberalism on my college campus. But they were nowhere near as bad as Churchill.
Perry Holley
02-03-2005, 05:30 PM
American Indian Movement declares Churchill a fraud (http://www.aimovement.org/moipr/churchill05.html)
Churchill says "Nuh uh!" (http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2689334,00.html)
Perry Holley
02-24-2005, 04:03 PM
Churchill finally admits he's not a Native American (http://starbulletin.com/2005/02/23/news/index2.html)
SUPERECWFAN1
02-24-2005, 04:20 PM
Churchill finally admits he's not a Native American (http://starbulletin.com/2005/02/23/news/index2.html)
In that same piece that ran a correction and he Is 1/3rd Native American. Have no Idea If you've seen It or not.
Perry Holley
02-24-2005, 04:22 PM
In that same piece that ran a correction and he Is 1/3rd Native American. Have no Idea If you've seen It or not.So he is... then he isn't... then he is again...
...could it be... Hypertime?
Puffy Treat
02-24-2005, 04:25 PM
Didn't Steven Grant defend this guy in recent column, claiming anyone who takes issue with his stuff is just another knee-jerk Bush supporter?
From the sound of things, anyone who takes issue is doing it because he's writing inflammatory stuff.
SUPERECWFAN1
02-24-2005, 04:32 PM
So he is... then he isn't... then he is again...
...could it be... Hypertime?
No It actually goes Into details and what his answer was on the original piece. The paper then tells of his 1/3rd Native American heritige. I've never seen the guy so I'm spared from caring about him.
Solaris
02-24-2005, 08:03 PM
I note that Mr. Churchill is affiliated with a Colorado university, and one would assume, is a U.S. Citizen. Therefore, by his own criteria, he is a "Little Eichmann" and deserves to die.
Any takers?
:rolleyes:
For that matter, if he truly believes in his own principles, he should kill himself in protest of belonging to such a society---after all, if to be a member of this society makes one a "marginal citizen" and a "little Eichmann," that makes him one too, doesn't it?
For guys like this, when their *OWN* philosophies "come home to roost," suddenly it's "Different! I didn't mean ME..." they whine, when confronted with someone who decides to bring terrorism to their own front door and their own face. All the while continuing to insist that they were right to render nameless and faceless thousands of their fellow citizens who died, and filing them all under names like "little Eichmanns."
Hypocritical bastard.
Solaris
02-24-2005, 08:17 PM
And he's apparently claimed 3/16 (which is not the full quarter required to be a recognized member of the Cherokee Tribe), 1/16 Cherokee, and even Creek blood, at different times. So no, he's not 1/3. I doubt he's anything other than full-blooded bullshit, frankly.
According to family legend, we carry some Cherokee Blood. Yes, we think that's cool---we admire Native Americans. No, we haven't tried to officially claim it; it's too far back. (And by too far back, I don't just mean that it's too diluted in the family---I also mean that the *experiences* are too far back. I may feel some spiritual affinity for Cherokees, and Native Americans in general, but no way can I claim that anyone in my family that I know or can remember, or I myself, has had the experiences they have had.)
There's a slim chance he has some kind of Native American blood, but given his statements on this, and the Council's information about him having a "*Friends* of" card for that branch of the Cherokee (which Bill Clinton has too, and HE's not claiming blood relation!), I think this guy just wants to try to claim the race relation in order to use it (and sully it, incidentally, IMO) as an "in" with some groups, and to promote a certain "image" of himself.
If he does indeed have Native American blood, I think it's highly likely his ancestors are ashamed of him, if for no other reason than that he claims something he has no real clue about, uses it for his own purposes, both of which are often a detriment to his tribe and Native Americans in general. It's harder for a genuine activist to get positive changes made, when someone like this joker is hard at work ruining the initial credibility of others of the same race.
Draconomicon
02-24-2005, 08:21 PM
"WTC victims deserved to die" (http://1010wins.com/topstories/local_story_028065739.html)
Following the Sept. 11 attacks, Churchill wrote an essay, "Some People Push Back: On the Justice of Roosting Chickens," that hailed the "gallant sacrifices" of the "combat teams" that struck America.
He said the World Trade Center victims deserved to die because they were a willing part of "the mighty engine of profit."
"True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break," Churchill wrote.
Churchill went on to describe the World Trade Center victims as "little Eichmanns," a reference to Adolf Eichmann, who organized Nazi leader Adolf Hitler's plan to exterminate Europe's Jews during World War II.
Ugh.
...........
That guy for real??
Perry Holley
02-25-2005, 03:21 PM
Ooooh, a new addition for the Swipe File! (http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_055200531.html)
Matt Algren
02-25-2005, 04:03 PM
The more information we get, the more this guy sounds like J-Bolt.
Matt Algren
02-25-2005, 04:08 PM
[URL=http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_055200531.html]Perry's article/URL]
Sen. Norma Anderson, R-Lakewood, said lawmakers have no right to usurp the responsibilities of the Board of Regents, an elected body that oversees the university.
If voters are unhappy, they should recall the regents, Anderson said. Echoing Hoffman's warning, she said lawmakers could make it easier for Churchill to win a big court award if he is fired and then sues.
You know what? I agree with Sen. Anderson. Before the voters of Colorado do that, though, people should contact the board members and be heard. Phone numbers and email addresses for all school officials are on the first page of this thread. Have at it.
Perry Holley
02-26-2005, 07:48 AM
The more information we get, the more this guy sounds like J-Bolt.Bwa ha ha ha!
Perry Holley
03-25-2005, 04:19 PM
Allegations have been made that Professor Churchill has engaged in research misconduct; specifically, that he has engaged in plagiarism, misuse of others' work, falsification and fabrication of authority.
These allegations have sufficient merit to warrant referral to the University of Colorado at Boulder Standing Committee on Research Misconduct for further inquiry in accordance with prescribed procedures. The research misconduct procedures afford Professor Churchill an opportunity to review and to respond to the allegations before any determination is made. If the Committee determines that Professor Churchill engaged in research misconduct, the Committee is to make recommendations regarding dismissal or other disciplinary action.
http://www.colorado.edu/news/reports/churchill/report.html
Nitmo
03-25-2005, 05:43 PM
In that same piece that ran a correction and he Is 1/3rd Native American. Have no Idea If you've seen It or not.
How the hell can anybody be 1/3 anything? Parents come in 2's not 3's
2 parents, 4grandparents, 8grtgrnparents, 16etc., 32etc., 64etc., 128etc., not seeing any denominations of 3 there.
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