Aeon Flux a new Paramount Film

[heavysoul]

I don't remember seeing a thread about this. My apologies if this is, in fact, a repeat.

Charlize Theron playing Aeon Flux? She's tall, beautiful, blue-eyed and talented. I think the similarities with the character end there, though. From what I've been able to gather she's taken the role very seriously... To the extent that she was injured mid filming. I'm happy about the possiblity of the character getting more recognition through the film. I just hope they do the series justice (a tall order to fill, no pun intended).

Any thoughts?

[Alex]

If its anything like the show, the movie will make no sense.

[Leslie Lee III]

She injured herself, but that was months ago. The show was great, I'm not sure exactly what the movie is doing. The costume is gone though :(

[KristyJo]

Wow. I have to say, she looks much better in the part than I pictured, judging from those pictures, anyway. When I heard they were making a movie, I was less than thrilled... But you never know.

Does anyone know who else is in the movie?

[KenK]

Wow. I have to say, she looks much better in the part than I pictured, judging from those pictures, anyway. When I heard they were making a movie, I was less than thrilled... But you never know.

Does anyone know who else is in the movie?

Frances McDormand, Johnny Lee Miller, Martin Ksokas(the villain in xXx)

[Valmore]

If its anything like the show, the movie will make no sense.

Anytime I tried to watch that show, it was always the same damn episode. And it still never made any sense. Why did they make a movie out of it?

[Leslie Lee III]

Anytime I tried to watch that show, it was always the same damn episode. And it still never made any sense. Why did they make a movie out of it?

Some people got it.

[KenK]

Anytime I tried to watch that show, it was always the same damn episode. And it still never made any sense. Why did they make a movie out of it?

To say nothing of the shorts that didn't have dialogue, and always ended with Aeon dying, usually by some stupid accident.

[Alex]

To say nothing of the shorts that didn't have dialogue, and always ended with Aeon dying, usually by some stupid accident.
But she was always alive again in the next one.
Bah!

[Sheldon]

If its anything like the show, the movie will make no sense.
Indeed and it will suck.

[Alex]

Indeed and it will suck.
I didn't say it will suck.
I assume it will suck, but if they took ONE episode of the tv show, one of the two cities at war ones, and gave it some clear background, they can pull out an interesting story.

[Leslie Lee III]

I had no idea that Aeon Flux was so much trouble for people.

[Ugoff]

I didn't say it will suck.
I assume it will suck, but if they took ONE episode of the tv show, one of the two cities at war ones, and gave it some clear background, they can pull out an interesting story.

Especially if their able to build one of those cool cars from the tv show. Also an apperance by Thangara(that ape lady) would be cool. Yes Aeon Flux was confusing but so what, it still kicked ass. I'm sorry but the $h*te is tight! I'm not feeling those pics of Charlize. It really doesnt look like Aeon. I'm hoping they'll attempt to make her look a bit like Aeon on the show at least for a few scenes no matter how silly it turns out to look.

[mgs]

I had no idea that Aeon Flux was so much trouble for people.
let's put it this way, i understood The Maxx before AF made any sense.

[heavysoul]

Hmm... I don't know what there is to make sense of with Aeon Flux. I never assumed there was any deep meaning behind the episodes. I think they were just random adventures (some of them with meaning). They would definitely need to flesh out what Peter Chung did (no pun intended). I'm not too crazy about the outfit they have Charlize in. They could have gone a bit further with the hair. I mean, The Fifth Element proved you could go far over the line with design. Maybe they should have gotten Gaultier for costume design... He would have had a blast.

[Paradox]

Meh, the cartoon was always pointless, pretentious twaddle. I don't expect anything more from the film.

Pass.

[Alex]

Meh, the cartoon was always pointless, pretentious twaddle. I don't expect anything more from the film.

Pass.
But when you were watching it, didn't you think.
"Man, some guys are going to think this is awesome"
like donnie darko, but a cartoon.
The pretentious think its wonderful!

[Leslie Lee III]

But when you were watching it, didn't you think.
"Man, some guys are going to think this is awesome"
like donnie darko, but a cartoon.
The pretentious think its wonderful!

There was nothing pretentious about it, it was just strange and weird and not really supposed to all "make sense." If you go in trying to figure everything out, you're only going to end up feeling like it flew over your head, and perhaps saying the show sucked in order to defend your battered and bruised intellect.

[Headhunter]

The show freaked me out, but I'll catch this in the theatre.

[Paradox]

Sorry, my take on it was always that Peter Chung was chuckling to himself because HE knew what was going on and we didn't and that made him cooler than us (regardless of the truth, that's the impression I got). That's pretentious to me.

And it didn't go over my head, nor make me feel like my intellect was being challenged. I was more bored than anything else, because there was virtually NO story.

I'm not saying "it sucked". I'm saying "I'm not interested".

[Leslie Lee III]

Sorry, my take on it was always that Peter Chung was chuckling to himself because HE knew what was going on and we didn't and that made him cooler than us (regardless of the truth, that's the impression I got).

See, I've read that post about every single book, movie, comic, or cartoon that is at all obscure, strange, or potentially confusing. Some people are puzzled by these things, then come up with strangely personalr theories involving the creators going through massive amounts of trouble to make them feel stupid. I really don't think that these artists care that much about being smarter than you, and they usually make a point in interviews to say that they really want people to get it.

[Paradox]

Leslie Lee III lumps:

See, I've read that post about every single book, movie, comic, or cartoon that is at all obscure, strange, or potentially confusing.

Eh, so have I.

Some people are puzzled by these things, then come up with strangely personalr theories involving the creators going through massive amounts of trouble to make them feel stupid. I really don't think that these artists care that much about being smarter than you, and they usually make a point in interviews to say that they really want people to get it.

Oh, like I said, it may not be true, but that's the air it had. "Isn't this kewl"? Frankly, it's impossible to "get" Aeon Flux because there's nothing really there to get. To be honest, it's often reminded me of the early Image Comics approach.

"Isn't this cool looking? Whatayou mean we need a story????"

Perhaps a better phrasing would be that I found it to be a lot of form over substance.

[Leslie Lee III]

"Isn't this cool looking? Whatayou mean we need a story????"

Perhaps a better phrasing would be that I found it to be a lot of form over substance.

It's a cartoon, form is substance. If the visuals stimulate and interest you, the focus doesn't have to be on a story. And the story isn't weaker than most other cartoons, anime, and spy and action shows. It's just that Aeon Flux is so much stronger than all of those when it comes to style that it gets punished for it. I see this a lot too. It's almost like having no visual style is better than having one, because you're guranteed to be accused of being "all style and no substance" by everyone who dislikes your work. This is something Americans often fail to get when seeing foreign works, because Hollywood is almost completely focused on storylines and visuals take a back seat (there are exceptions, of course).

[heavysoul]

"Form" is definitely the "substance" Chung was going for in that series. His stuff is really expressive and that's what makes it fun for me. I just hope they can capture the style/tone of the series AND write a story that makes sense.

[JKCarrier]

Aeon Flux always made sense to me. It's not really that "deep" -- a lot of it is just joking around with adventure cliches. Like in that first stoyline from "Liquid Television": Aeon mows down hordes of soldiers and works her way through the giant office building to get to Trevor, but then at the last second she steps on a nail, loses her balance, and falls to her death. It's funny because we're used to seeing the hero triumph against overwhelming odds, or at least sacrificing themselves in some noble, dramatic fashion. Here, she gets taken out by dumb luck.

The second set of shorts (the self-contained ones where she dies at the end of each one) are similar. Aeon is like Wile E. Coyote from the old Roadrunner cartoons -- every time, she screws up and gets herself killed, but she's back in the next episode to try again. It's an inversion of the usual expectation that the hero will always triumph no matter what.

The third set of episodes (the half-hour ones where she actually speaks) are more straightforward in terms of having conventional plots and such. They're still stylish and fun, but less outrageous than the previous shorts.

I don't have great hopes for the movie. As a big-budget Hollywood production, they'll want to make it as accessible and broadly appealing as possible. Aeon will be "sympathetic" and "likeable", and will no doubt triumph against the bad guy in a big special effects extravaganza. Any element of satire or self-awareness will go right out the window. But I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

[IamtheRock3]

But when you were watching it, didn't you think.
"Man, some guys are going to think this is awesome"
like donnie darko, but a cartoon.
The pretentious think its wonderful!


yes but donnie Darko kicked butt


Aeon Flux was good but yea it made no sense. The movie going to be kind of hard to do. But if they flesh it out they might do it.

heck they made a 2 hour movie out of a skit Waynes world that was pretty good. So this can't be THAT hard.

[Grant]

This is like making a the puppet less Thunderbirds movie. They are removing the only interesting aspect of the show and that was it's animation style. Looks like another Tomb Raider to me.

[Ronald Bryan]

Hopefully, the one thing this will do is get MTV to release the TV show on DVD.

[Leslie Lee III]

Hopefully, the one thing this will do is get MTV to release the TV show on DVD.

YES! A proper DVD set is waaay overdue.

[Valmore]

This is like making a the puppet less Thunderbirds movie. They are removing the only interesting aspect of the show and that was it's animation style. Looks like another Tomb Raider to me.

Especially since they just put her in an all-black outfit instead of the dominatrix-styled thing the main character wore.

[Paradox]

Leslie Lee III and I apparantly view things quiet differently:

It's a cartoon, form is substance.

I couldn't disagree more. It's like saying it's only the art that matters in comics. It looked very pretty and communicated nothing. Certainly, the "form" was excellent, but non-substansive as a whole.

If the visuals stimulate and interest you, the focus doesn't have to be on a story. And the story isn't weaker than most other cartoons, anime, and spy and action shows.

I'd disagree with that, too. Than SOME, possibly, but at least MOST cartoons, anime and spy and action shows have some coherent plotline of some sort, no matter if it's bad or not. Aeon Flux lacks that, seemingly intentionally.

It's just that Aeon Flux is so much stronger than all of those when it comes to style that it gets punished for it.

I don't think it gets "punished" for its strong visuals. I think it gets "punished" for a lack of anything else.

I see this a lot too. It's almost like having no visual style is better than having one, because you're guranteed to be accused of being "all style and no substance" by everyone who dislikes your work.

Possibly. Just as one might get accused of "great story, crappy graphics" if such were the case. How is that not a legitimate criticism? It's, of course, best to have a strong visual style accompanied with actually having something to say, wouldn't you agree?

This is something Americans often fail to get when seeing foreign works, because Hollywood is almost completely focused on storylines and visuals take a back seat (there are exceptions, of course).

I only speak for myself, not "Americans". I freely admit that the graphics were wonderful and it was nice to look at. But that's ALL it had. That's not enough for my tastes. Sorry. "It looks kewl." just doesn't cut it for me.

[Alex]

There was nothing pretentious about it, it was just strange and weird and not really supposed to all "make sense." If you go in trying to figure everything out, you're only going to end up feeling like it flew over your head, and perhaps saying the show sucked in order to defend your battered and bruised intellect.
Yep.
Its not supposed to make sense, but im dumb for thinking it sucked because it didn't make sense.
Being weird for the sake of being weird usualy means something is bad.

[Leslie Lee III]

I couldn't disagree more. It's like saying it's only the art that matters in comics.

No, it's like saying art matters in comics. I just don't find art in comics, or at least most comics, stimulating enough to stand on it's own. But I don't think that comics necessarily need dialogue or a traditional story to be interesting, neither do paintings, photographs, sculptures, pieces of architecture, cartoons, or movies for that matter. Form IS substance in visual mediums when done right.

I'd disagree with that, too. Than SOME, possibly, but at least MOST cartoons, anime and spy and action shows have some coherent plotline of some sort, no matter if it's bad or not. Aeon Flux lacks that, seemingly intentionally.

All the 30 minute episodes had traditionally coherent plotlines, traditionally being the key word. The rest of the episodes tried to break out from that nomral traditional deliberately. The 30 minute ones were just weird enough in general to throw people off, but before every show they had "Trevor goodchild is blah blah, Aeon plans to stop him" pasted on before and that's what you saw. Thinking on it more, the plots were quite a bit more complex than most cartoons and spy shows, as there were always twists and turns and things you'd never expect in a traditional action show.

[mgs]

Aeon Flux always made sense to me. It's not really that "deep" -- a lot of it is just joking around with adventure cliches. Like in that first stoyline from "Liquid Television": Aeon mows down hordes of soldiers and works her way through the giant office building to get to Trevor, but then at the last second she steps on a nail, loses her balance, and falls to her death. It's funny because we're used to seeing the hero triumph against overwhelming odds, or at least sacrificing themselves in some noble, dramatic fashion. Here, she gets taken out by dumb luck.

The second set of shorts (the self-contained ones where she dies at the end of each one) are similar. Aeon is like Wile E. Coyote from the old Roadrunner cartoons -- every time, she screws up and gets herself killed, but she's back in the next episode to try again. It's an inversion of the usual expectation that the hero will always triumph no matter what.

The third set of episodes (the half-hour ones where she actually speaks) are more straightforward in terms of having conventional plots and such. They're still stylish and fun, but less outrageous than the previous shorts.

I don't have great hopes for the movie. As a big-budget Hollywood production, they'll want to make it as accessible and broadly appealing as possible. Aeon will be "sympathetic" and "likeable", and will no doubt triumph against the bad guy in a big special effects extravaganza. Any element of satire or self-awareness will go right out the window. But I'll be happy to be proven wrong.O.o
or maybe, maybe, she's like, living in an early version of the Matrix, where she's a clone and they are all trying to accomplish the same thing, but with varying results, maybe?

[Nate Grey]

I thought Aeon only died in one episode? I remember one ep where she had fallen in love with Trevor, but somehow made a clone of herself that was devoid of feelings of Trevor. She died/committed suicide/whatever, while the clone was free to oppose Trevor.

That's very vague, I know, but I hadn't seen that particular episode in ages. Anyone got better details on it?

Anyway, seems like Carrie Ann Moss would make a better Aeon Flux. I mean, maybe its the animation style, but Aeon always struck me as pretty boney, and, well, Charlize Theron isn't boney (thank goodness).

[Leslie Lee III]

I thought Aeon only died in one episode? I remember one ep where she had fallen in love with Trevor, but somehow made a clone of herself that was devoid of feelings of Trevor. She died/committed suicide/whatever, while the clone was free to oppose Trevor.

That's very vague, I know, but I hadn't seen that particular episode in ages. Anyone got better details on it?

Anyway, seems like Carrie Ann Moss would make a better Aeon Flux. I mean, maybe its the animation style, but Aeon always struck me as pretty boney, and, well, Charlize Theron isn't boney (thank goodness).

When it was on liquid television, they did a series of shorts where she died in everyone. During the 30 minute series, I think she only "died" when she got stuck in an ocean of red liquid that traps and paralyzes people.

[JKCarrier]

O.o
or maybe, maybe, she's like, living in an early version of the Matrix, where she's a clone and they are all trying to accomplish the same thing, but with varying results, maybe?

Maybe, but I think that's reading too much into it. It's like watching a Roadrunner cartoon and demanding a logical explanation for how Wile E. Coyote survives falling off the cliff. :D

[Deathstroke]

Check it out right here! (http://www.mtv.com/movies/movie/254271/trailers.jhtml)

[Gaz]

It breaks my browser... :(

[Forefinger]

I wish they had a hotter chick to play the lead.

[Nate Grey]

OOoh, MTV uses DRM technology. No wonder I can't see it. Need to upgrade to XP. :D

[The Mirrorball Man]

I can't see it, and I don't know what "DRM technology" is supposed to be!

[DrewTheXenocide]

I couldn't see it either.

By the by, I never saw the cartoon. What's this thing about?

[GremlinClr]

I couldn't see it either.

By the by, I never saw the cartoon. What's this thing about?

That might be hard to answer. It's about a woman...I think she's a spy...and there's this guy...crap I have no clue...it's more than a little odd.

[The Mirrorball Man]

Here's some info about Aeon Flux (the series);

link (http://www.sadgeezer.com/html/Sections+index-req-viewarticle-artid-40-page-1.html)

[Steve]

I couldn't see it either.

By the by, I never saw the cartoon. What's this thing about?
Check here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeon_Flux).

I really like the designs by Peter Chung, bizarre as they may be.

[Deathstroke]

Okay, why can't most people see it? I know I had no problem using the link.

[Inkthinker]

All I got to see was their Four Brothers trailer, and then it stopped. So screw 'em, who needs the hassle... it'll be everywhere in another day or so, if it's any good at all. I can wait for a good ol' reliable Quicktime.

[Steve]

Quicktime version (http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/aeon_flux/large.html) from Apple.

[Jessie]

Okay, why can't most people see it? I know I had no problem using the link.
MTV is always funky with people who aren't using quite up to date operating systems. I know the Ral World/Road Rules commentary won't even show up for folk like me who are just using Windows 98.


And the trailer did look pretty neat. I'll go see it, but I almost everything nowadays. Charlize Theron's outfit covers too much, though.

[Shades0077]

Looks pretty badass to me.

[Deathstroke]

Quicktime version (http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/aeon_flux/large.html) from Apple.


Good, I hope more people can see it now.

[The Mirrorball Man]

Good, I hope more people can see it now.
I can see it now!

Unfortunately, it looks pretty generic: it certainly doesn't look like Aeon Flux. It might be a cool popcorn movie, though.

[JerrBear81]

It looks cool, but I still have some gripes.

Theron doesn't look like Aeon Flux, and again the costume is the trademark. The guy looking like Goodchild looks nothing like him. And there seems no mention of the Monican Country Aeon is from.

The cool thing about the Series was that everyone wore odd costumes that pretty much made the visual.

[Sentry]

I wish they had a hotter chick to play the lead.


what! and you could do better , have you seen her in 'the life and death of peter sellers'

i hope you were being sarcy mate

[KenK]

It looks cool, but I still have some gripes.

Theron doesn't look like Aeon Flux, and again the costume is the trademark. The guy looking like Goodchild looks nothing like him. And there seems no mention of the Monican Country Aeon is from.

While I agree they could have given Martin Ksokas the bleached ceaser cut, I don't think you can fault them for not including every specific detail of Aeon's life when this is just the teaser.

The cool thing about the Series was that everyone wore odd costumes that pretty much made the visual.

The costumes look pretty odd. And Theron's "evening wear" was quite revealing! I just like that they have the rebel agent who has hands for feet! I always loved that character in the cartoon (forgive me for not remembering her name, though).

I think it still looks very interesting visually, the set design and the costumes, while not all as titilating as they were in the cartoon, still looks very unique to me. I know some people would like to cry foul and complain that it's a Matrix rip-off, with Aeon being copied from Trinity, ignoring that fact that Trinity as a character probably owes a lot to Aeon Flux in terms of her demeanor and monotone delivery while being a coldhearted ass-kicker in a tight black outfit.

[JerrBear81]

While I agree they could have given Martin Ksokas the bleached ceaser cut, I don't think you can fault them for not including every specific detail of Aeon's life when this is just the teaser.



The costumes look pretty odd. And Theron's "evening wear" was quite revealing! I just like that they have the rebel agent who has hands for feet! I always loved that character in the cartoon (forgive me for not remembering her name, though).

I think it still looks very interesting visually, the set design and the costumes, while not all as titilating as they were in the cartoon, still looks very unique to me. I know some people would like to cry foul and complain that it's a Matrix rip-off, with Aeon being copied from Trinity, ignoring that fact that Trinity as a character probably owes a lot to Aeon Flux in terms of her demeanor and monotone delivery while being a coldhearted ass-kicker in a tight black outfit.

At least Theron looks better than Trinity in the last two films...

Anyway I can't help but think that MTV is pandering by giving Aeon a full body suit, even if it's skin tight.

At least it looks like it'll be an enjoyable film.

[KenK]

At least Theron looks better than Trinity in the last two films...

Yeah, if it's between Moss and Theron, smart money's on Theron!

Anyway I can't help but think that MTV is pandering by giving Aeon a full body suit, even if it's skin tight.

I guess they figured audiences wouldn't take her seriously in nothing but a thong and leather bustier. As much as I'd love a more visually faithful rendition of the costume, I can forgive them if the film is well-made with a good story.

At least it looks like it'll be an enjoyable film.

I'm looking forward to it. I look at it as I do comic book films, in the sense that certain characters who may not have that much of a following, can get away with more liberties being taken when the property is translated to film. I think the hardcore fans gave up on Aeon Flux when the characters started talking(as is the complaint I've heard from my friends who were fans). So I can only imagine how they really feel about this movie. I'll admit, it's a concept that seems to only lend itself to animation (and maybe comics). The look and movement of the characters is meant to go against reality, in a sense. Translating it to live-action immediately distances it from its primary focus.

[The Mirrorball Man]

I guess they figured audiences wouldn't take her seriously in nothing but a thong and leather bustier. As much as I'd love a more visually faithful rendition of the costume, I can forgive them if the film is well-made with a good story.
Sure, but I would have liked the costume to be at least purple.

[KenK]

Sure, but I would have liked the costume to be at least purple.

That, I'll give ya! No one would be bitching about the Matrix if it were purple. Sad that that film has ruined the color black for everyone!

[The Mirrorball Man]

That, I'll give ya! No one would be bitching about the Matrix if it were purple. Sad that that film has ruined the color black for everyone!
Besides, making her outfit purple would have given the character a more decadent and antiquated look that would fit with what we've seen of the set design (and the themes of the movie). If the trailer is any indication, this Aeon Flux looks like a James Bond girl lost in a sophisticated sci-fi world. Sometimes a subtle change of color can carry a lot of meaning.

[IamtheRock3]

Hmmm nice and weird..not as weird as the show but wierd enough

miss the old costume..yea it T and A but it had a odd style that fit with the show (lot of Aeon flux not suspose to make total sense it about style) but I will manage

[Bakema NL]

I wish they had a hotter chick to play the lead.

There's only so much hotness a man can take.......she's hot enough. I have to admit, for a guy like me who likes women with dark hair, Theron looks better as a blonde.

Looks like this could be a very cool movie after all, I sure hope it delivers.

[MKTerra]

I can't see it, and I don't know what "DRM technology" is supposed to be!Digital Rights Management (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Management)... read it and weep.

[Headhunter]

That's pretty sick, I'm definitely watching this!

[Royal]

Look. Hot chick with guns wearing the latest fantastical fashions. A more high Octane 5th Element.

http://www.rue-morgue.com/forums/images/smilies/boring.gif

I'll pass.

[The Mirrorball Man]

Look. Hot chick with guns wearing the latest fantastical fashions. A more high Octane 5th Element.

http://www.rue-morgue.com/forums/images/smilies/boring.gif

I'll pass.
Well, it is based on one of the coolest cartoons of all time, so that's at least something to consider before making snap judgements.

[Siythe]

Look. Hot chick with guns wearing the latest fantastical fashions. A more high Octane 5th Element.

http://www.rue-morgue.com/forums/images/smilies/boring.gif

I'll pass.

I was thinking it was CGI'ed rip off of equilibrium untill those series links were posted.

[Paradox]

Nah, I'm with Royal. I thought the cartoon was not much more than an exersize in "aren't I so cool because I've made everything so obscure" art school snobbery. Never much cared for it.

But, then, YMMV.

[Royal]

Well, it is based on one of the coolest cartoons of all time, so that's at least something to consider before making snap judgements.

It is?

huh. To me, it looks like the same generic "freedom fighter on a mission of death" movie, that we're used to seeing.

Flux was a sexier, more avant Spy vs. Spy with no good guys.

to each his own.

[The Mirrorball Man]

huh. To me, it looks like the same generic "freedom fighter on a mission of death" movie, that we're used to seeing.
I'm not talking about the movie, I'm talking about the animated series. Anyway, if the movie really is inspired by the series, I guess Aeon is on a mission of death: the girl dies at the end of every single episode, just as she is about to accomplish her goal.

[Magra2000]

Hey has anyone heard when the "real" release for the aeon comic is? It was supposed to be August 25 or something and keeps getting delayed. They are going to re-release the original tv series for anyone who hasn't yet seen them all-- I highly recommend although it will probably set you up for disappointment in the live action...but that was going to happen anyway.

[Magra2000]

a good site for aeon flux details on each short episode is at sad geezer--its interesting and connects a lot of things that do not seem to make sense when you just watch the episodes once.

[paintwithlight]

I couldn't see it either.

By the by, I never saw the cartoon. What's this thing about?

You can also go here for the trailer http://www.thatweasel.tv/downloads.php?dl_navi=mt

This guy has a great site, :) he has a whole bunch of Movie Trailers, they're alphabetised so Aeon Flux is near the top.

He has old ones and new ones so you can get stuff that's been taken down from the original movie sites.

[Deathstroke]

This might be pretty bad.

Apparently Paramount has cancelled all preview screenings of the film.

[Deathstroke]

Paramount has cancelled all advance previews of Aeon Flux. That can't be a good sign.

[KenK]

Deathstroke, why'd you bump THREE threads to tell us the same thing?!? Okay, there are no press screenings, you're looking forward to the movie sucking, get over it!

[Valmore]

I'm not certain there could have been a "good" live action Aeon Flux film.

I'd have been more interested if the film was completely animated - even though I never understood the cartoon, at least the animation and style was pretty damn good. It would have been interesting to see new technology incorporated into that.

[Deathstroke]

Deathstroke, why'd you bump THREE threads to tell us the same thing?!? Okay, there are no press screenings, you're looking forward to the movie sucking, get over it!

Actually I'm NOT looking forward to it sucking, I have hope that it's good, but when a studio pulls screenings for critics that's never a good sign. I believe that's what I said the first time, Mr. Snarky.

[Pól Rua]

Maybe, but I think that's reading too much into it. It's like watching a Roadrunner cartoon and demanding a logical explanation for how Wile E. Coyote survives falling off the cliff. :D

...or being pissed off at the lack of sociopolitical content in Spy vs Spy.

Basically, each short episode was like a short one-shot 'Heavy Metal'-esque science fiction story.
Basically, you're introduced into the story halfway through and you have to make up your own ideas about what's happened before and after.
Frankly, I thought that was why the original cartoon shorts were so much better than the later stuff. It's the appeal of trying to work out what's going on when you're not being given all the information.

The later animated series which actually had a continuing storyline suffered for this, because they had to flesh the world and background out more. Again, like giving Wile E. Coyote a history, or giving the Black and White Spies names, it's unnecessary and actually detracts from the final product.

I think this film's going to be ass because it'll have none of that. There'll be a history and backstory, and some sort of point to it all. None of which is necessary.

[KenK]

Actually I'm NOT looking forward to it sucking, I have hope that it's good, but when a studio pulls screenings for critics that's never a good sign. I believe that's what I said the first time, Mr. Snarky.

But Paramount as cancelled ALL screenings of new movies for the press. It's not just Aeon Flux.

[Deathstroke]

But Paramount as cancelled ALL screenings of new movies for the press. It's not just Aeon Flux.

That's not the information I read. The notice I saw just said for Aeon Flux.

[kalorama]

A studio cancelling press screenings is generally not an encouraging sign with regards to a movie's quality. At best it indicates a lack of confidence by the very people who made the movie.

[Royal]

...or being pissed off at the lack of sociopolitical content in Spy vs Spy.

Basically, each short episode was like a short one-shot 'Heavy Metal'-esque science fiction story.
Basically, you're introduced into the story halfway through and you have to make up your own ideas about what's happened before and after.
Frankly, I thought that was why the original cartoon shorts were so much better than the later stuff. It's the appeal of trying to work out what's going on when you're not being given all the information.

The later animated series which actually had a continuing storyline suffered for this, because they had to flesh the world and background out more. Again, like giving Wile E. Coyote a history, or giving the Black and White Spies names, it's unnecessary and actually detracts from the final product.

I think this film's going to be ass because it'll have none of that. There'll be a history and backstory, and some sort of point to it all. None of which is necessary.

Excellent post Pol.

[lawaughn]

Okay so I saw it yesterday. I wanted to get a Matrix feel off of it as I did in the trailer. Instead I sat there knowing that each moment sucked more than the last. The only positive thing I can say about was that the clothing and interior design was kinda cool. My thoughts on the movie "what the f_ck!" and then I think about the money I spent on getting there, the tickets, the snacks ....." F_CK!"

[Justy]

The Tomatoes don't lie... 13%

Maybe they were shooting for the sequel to Catwoman? Eh... I really enjoyed the Liquid TV shorts, but maybe I'll wait until its on cable.

[Deathlok]

it did nto make sense.... well what do you expect from a MTV production... all style & no substance......

[Deathstroke]

The film came in 2nd for the weekend with a disappointing 13.1 million dollar opening.

[Deathlok]

actually I thought some parts of the movie were pretty good.......

so I take it that those weekend box office numbers mean we will not see aeon flux 2?


..... I saw a preview for underworld 2 this week before aeon flux.... wtf? I thought this movie did poorly at the box office?

[KenK]

..... I saw a preview for underworld 2 this week before aeon flux.... wtf? I thought this movie did poorly at the box office?

it made 60 million in the states alone, and only had a budget of 20 million.

[Deathlok]

who was the woman that gave aeon her missions?

what were the other agents doing?

are there more than 5 agents? ( thats all we saw)

Where did aeon get her training & by whom?

[Royal]

who was the woman that gave aeon her missions?

what were the other agents doing?

are there more than 5 agents? ( thats all we saw)

Where did aeon get her training & by whom?

All are supefluous.

[Deathlok]

LOL..... i suspect this is the MTV influence...... they sacrifice story elements for style.....

[cactusmaac]

it made 60 million in the states alone, and only had a budget of 20 million.

Why do I feel the sudden urge to swallow rat poison?

[Robin3]

I liked it. The only two things that bothered me were the 4-handed lady--that just creeped me out, even if chimps happen to have them-- and Aeon's decision to blow up the cloning factory. Pretty stupid and impulsive if the sterility problem hasn't been determinedly solved, especially since there were no notes.

I think that the movie improved on the artwork of the comic. The comic had all these ugly people in it that totally repelled me, while I liked the look of the movie.

[Nate Grey]

I liked it. The only two things that bothered me were the 4-handed lady--that just creeped me out, even if chimps happen to have them-- and Aeon's decision to blow up the cloning factory. Pretty stupid and impulsive if the sterility problem hasn't been determinedly solved, especially since there were no notes.

But it had been solved. Remember Warren killed other women who became naturally pregnant. After 400 years the problem fixed itself. There was no need for the cloning factory anymore, and getting rid of it would be a possible deterrant to anyone wanting to fill Warren's shoes.

[Robin3]

But it had been solved. Remember Warren killed other women who became naturally pregnant. After 400 years the problem fixed itself. There was no need for the cloning factory anymore, and getting rid of it would be a possible deterrant to anyone wanting to fill Warren's shoes.

The problem is, she made the decision to blow up the factory before she knew that the problem had been solved. Orrin revealed that there were women having babies naturally during a monologue that took place after she'd grabbed the bazooka and was planning to destroy it. And it had not been made clear that Orrin had not killed all fertile women.

[Nate Grey]

The problem is, she made the decision to blow up the factory before she knew that the problem had been solved. Orrin revealed that there were women having babies naturally during a monologue that took place after she'd grabbed the bazooka and was planning to destroy it.

Thought it was Warren. Oh well.

She decided unilaterally that this way of existing was wrong, and if mankind was meant to die it, then perhaps it should. The only thing the revelation changed was that we might actually have a chance and that this won't be the final generation.

And it had not been made clear that Orrin had not killed all fertile women.

I got the impression he wasn't killing them fast enough, that the women who were fertile were starting to outnumber the sterile ones exponentially, hence the urgency to quiet Aeon and Trevor forever lest they spread the word.

[Dee3]

I enjoyed it, it had a kinda creepy feel to it, with the cloning and her being the Clone of his wife and all. Very good scifi.

As for the cartoon I always felt it had this creepy psydo sexual feel to it, the kind that satisfies teenage boys and you didn't have that as much in the movie.

dee

[Norrin Radd]

It was actually not that bad. Flawed, yes...but it has more brains than most genre films these days.