Why are all the GL's from Earth only men?

[nj06]

Has there ever been a woman from Earth to serve as a GL? Unless I'm mistaken, I can't think of any women from Earth that are GL's.

I mean we have Hal, John, Guy, and Kyle but not a single woman! Not to mention Alan Scott!

Jade has the powers, but isn't apart of the Corps. It seems the women from Earth are destined to only be Star Sapphires.

I want the next Earth based GL to be a woman!

NO EXCEPTIONS!

And I want her to be a woman of color too. If DC wants to promote diversity, I think this would be great. And maybe she can be a young character too, possibly allowing her to be a part of the Teen Titans.

Thoughts?

[The Black Guardian]

Anya Savenlovich, very briefly. Coolest thing Kyle ever did... 'cept bring Hal back. :tongue:

kidding

[Moriarty]

Would Jade count? kinda sorta, not really?

[Ben D]

Would Jade count? kinda sorta, not really?

Well she's not really a member of the Green Lantern Corps and has only been called Green Lantern a handful of times.

Interestingly enough, besides Sinestro all Green Lanterns from Korugar (or that sector) have been female.

[phantom1592]

I count Jade. She had a ring, she wore the classic costume... She was put in charge of the Corps when Kyle went to restart the corps.

So techniquely she was the first of his new corps.

It didn't last long.... but it was legit.

[C. Earl]

Why are all the GL's from Earth only men?
Because giving a woman a ring period is dangerous in so many ways...
:biggrin:

But seriously, I would love it if there was a female Green Lantern from Earth, especially if she had her own book with the Star Sapphires...

[PretenderNX01]

I think there are enough Green Lanterns from Earth :tongue:


I count Jade. She had a ring, she wore the classic costume... She was put in charge of the Corps when Kyle went to restart the corps.
Yeah, Jade was part of Kyle's new GLC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Lantern#Others_who_have_headlined_as_Green_L antern

As was Anya Savenlovic
http://greenlantern.wikia.com/wiki/Anya_Savenlovich

The Blue Lantern entity, Adara, briefly was hosted by a black girl named Nicole Morrison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Lantern_Corps#Prominent_members

[Flashpoint]

Has there ever been a woman from Earth to serve as a GL? Unless I'm mistaken, I can't think of any women from Earth that are GL's.

I mean we have Hal, John, Guy, and Kyle but not a single woman! Not to mention Alan Scott!

Jade has the powers, but isn't apart of the Corps. It seems the women from Earth are destined to only be Star Sapphires.

I want the next Earth based GL to be a woman!

NO EXCEPTIONS!

And I want her to be a woman of color too. If DC wants to promote diversity, I think this would be great. And maybe she can be a young character too, possibly allowing her to be a part of the Teen Titans.

Thoughts?
Agreed. But let's be honest. Unfortunately, most writers choose to write lead protagonists who are men and, overwhelmingly, white straight men. Women and minorities in leading roles for all forms of entertainment are still so rare it's ridiculous.

Diversity in casts of characters is going remain a big issue for comics, tv and film for decades to come. So few writers and those who hire them endeavor to make women and minorities the lead in stories. Solving this problem is going to take a very long time. And you have to have influential writers willing to go to bat and fight for a diverse group of leading characters in stories.

[DonC]

Has there ever been a woman from Earth to serve as a GL? Unless I'm mistaken, I can't think of any women from Earth that are GL's.

I mean we have Hal, John, Guy, and Kyle but not a single woman! Not to mention Alan Scott!

Jade has the powers, but isn't apart of the Corps. It seems the women from Earth are destined to only be Star Sapphires.

I want the next Earth based GL to be a woman!

NO EXCEPTIONS!

And I want her to be a woman of color too. If DC wants to promote diversity, I think this would be great. And maybe she can be a young character too, possibly allowing her to be a part of the Teen Titans.

Thoughts?


All four Earth-based GLs were created at a time when the overwhelming majority of fans were white males.

And forced diversity doesn't work.

[Moriarty]

hey, Jade is a woman of color...she's green!

[Flashpoint]

All four Earth-based GLs were created at a time when the overwhelming majority of fans were white males.

And forced diversity doesn't work.Per a study from conservative thinktank The Manhattan Institute released this week, racial segregation in the U.S. is at an all-time low:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2094435/Black-segregation-U-S-hits-time-low-proving-legacy-civil-rights-era-strong.html

Policies that enforce integration do work in cultivating both racial and cultural diversity. Film, television, books and comics should reflect these positive changes, if for no other reason than to expand sales by marketing to more consumers beyond the traditional markets. You grow sales and bring in new customers by reaching beyond your base and cultivating a bigger audience.

[Sandor Clegane]

Has there ever been a woman from Earth to serve as a GL? Unless I'm mistaken, I can't think of any women from Earth that are GL's.Maybe men are just way more into jewelry than women, but the world hasn't caught on yet?

[phantom1592]

Policies that enforce integration do work in cultivating both racial and cultural diversity. Film, television, books and comics should reflect these positive changes, if for no other reason than to expand sales by marketing to more consumers beyond the traditional markets. You grow sales and bring in new customers by reaching beyond your base and cultivating a bigger audience.

Only if done well.

Too often the writers are ALSO White Males... who do not write minorities well. They become stereotypes and caricatures and then the audience you are trying to reach gets angry because they can't relate to the characters.

Seriously... How many bald angry black men who look/sound like Samuel L Jackson do we really need?

I really can't fault a white male writer for not wanting to shoot himself in the foot by writing a character that A) he doesn't understand... and B) he knows the fans he's reaching for won't like...

Books get canceled VERY fast now days....

[Den]

If I remember, there was an Elseworlds "Created Equal" or some such where Barbara Gordon ended up as Earth's Green Lantern when most of the men folk died.

I've noticed some folks grumbling about Earth having FOUR active green lanterns (3 more than most planets) so I'm not sure how well received a new 5th one would be.

That said, sure, if we DO get another regular lantern from Earth, I'm all for a lady getting her shot. I'd reccomend letting Gail Simone come up with her. I like her writing, and maybe I've been misreading some of her past work, but I think it's something she's been itching to try anyway

[DonC]

Per a study from conservative thinktank The Manhattan Institute released this week, racial segregation in the U.S. is at an all-time low:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2094435/Black-segregation-U-S-hits-time-low-proving-legacy-civil-rights-era-strong.html

Policies that enforce integration do work in cultivating both racial and cultural diversity. Film, television, books and comics should reflect these positive changes, if for no other reason than to expand sales by marketing to more consumers beyond the traditional markets. You grow sales and bring in new customers by reaching beyond your base and cultivating a bigger audience.



I should have said forced diversity doesn't work in comics. Phantom1592 puts it well: One of the first rules in writing is "Write what you know." Most comics are written by white men. They're the demographic that wants to write comics the most. A publisher can try to bring in minorities and women but, here's the big thing: they need to be able to do the job. Their books need to sell. If they can't do the job then they're out. It's just that simple.

[Two Headed Sex Beast]

Because the GL's are on the DL.

[Slaughter]

hey, Jade is a woman of color...she's green!

So, according to a friend of mine, she's black.

No, really!

Translating his quote to English: "I always thought of J'onn as black. I know, he's green and Martian, but he's black, and green is like space-black."

So Jade is, by proxy, the first black woman of the GLC. Somehow.

[Flashpoint]

I should have said forced diversity doesn't work in comics. Phantom1592 puts it well: One of the first rules in writing is "Write what you know." Most comics are written by white men. They're the demographic that wants to write comics the most. A publisher can try to bring in minorities and women but, here's the big thing: they need to be able to do the job. Their books need to sell. If they can't do the job then they're out. It's just that simple.

Sure. But you also have to give opportunities to all people equally. When the majority of opportunities go to straight white males, then of course they'll be the most successful. They have been awarded the biggest number of available jobs and consequently they are an inordinately higher number of those who become successful.

Most of the white males who get into the comics industry don't become superstar creators. But most of the superstars are white male. Hire more women and minorities and you'll see more superstar creators from those groups. Careers are a numbers game and those who win the most success are the ones who are granted the greatest number of advantages.

[PretenderNX01]

So, according to a friend of mine, she's black.

No, really!

Translating his quote to English: "I always thought of J'onn as black. I know, he's green and Martian, but he's black, and green is like space-black."

So Jade is, by proxy, the first black woman of the GLC. Somehow.

J'onn wasn't a white martian, so I can see his point. :tongue:

Katma was pink but used her ring to make her skin brown on Earth so she could be seen with John and not stick out.

[nj06]

Sure. But you also have to give opportunities to all people equally. When the majority of opportunities go to straight white males, then of course they'll be the most successful. They have been awarded the biggest number of available jobs and consequently they are an inordinately higher number of those who become successful.

Most of the white males who get into the comics industry don't become superstar creators. But most of the superstars are white male. Hire more women and minorities and you'll see more superstar creators from those groups. Careers are a numbers game and those who win the most success are the ones who are granted the greatest number of advantages.

Excellent point.

I would love for the next GL from Earth to be a woman. Maybe even make her a teenager so that they can have a GL character tied to the Teen Titans. I think that would be awesome.

[PretenderNX01]

There doesn't need to be a next Green Lantern of Earth.

Too damn many Lanterns are running around Earth as it is. :tongue:

[phantom1592]

There doesn't need to be a next Green Lantern of Earth.

Too damn many Lanterns are running around Earth as it is. :tongue:

This.


Hal is the Green lantern of earth. Guy was his back up... John was HIS back up... and Kyle was EVERYONE's backup...

The whole... 'new guy' wears the ring story is old and played out. We don't need NEW lanterns, we need to use the ones we HAVE efficiently.

[phantom1592]

This.


Hal is the Green lantern of earth. Guy was his back up... John was HIS back up... and Kyle was EVERYONE's backup...

The whole... 'new guy' wears the ring story is old and played out. We don't need NEW lanterns, we need to use the ones we HAVE efficiently.



I would love for the next GL from Earth to be a woman. Maybe even make her a teenager so that they can have a GL character tied to the Teen Titans. I think that would be awesome.

Kyle was technicely an immature kid who was tied to the titans...

[Slaughter]

J'onn wasn't a white martian, so I can see his point. :tongue:

Katma was pink but used her ring to make her skin brown on Earth so she could be seen with John and not stick out.

If Green is space-black, Blue is space-white?

But did she did that because she's a differently collored alien or because she was for some reason convinced that people would think it odd that a red-skinned woman is dating a black man? You northern anglo peoples are so strange, especially in the old times.

That said, I think a Korugarian could pass for a human with (north american) native american ancestry, even if facially they look more like caucasians, but if asked, just say "Lots of miscigenation," that's how it works here. Though I think they're being drawn as a bit more alien today, look at their eye collors, no way a human has yellow eyes.

[Two Headed Sex Beast]

So, according to a friend of mine, she's black.

No, really!

Translating his quote to English: "I always thought of J'onn as black. I know, he's green and Martian, but he's black, and green is like space-black."

So Jade is, by proxy, the first black woman of the GLC. Somehow.

So does that mean Martians think of black people as space-green?

[PretenderNX01]

But did she did that because she's a differently collored alien or because she was for some reason convinced that people would think it odd that a red-skinned woman is dating a black man? You northern anglo peoples are so strange, especially in the old times.

She was pretending to be human, back in the day she was depicted with like bright fuchsia skin. Way to bright to pass as human, so she changed her skin tone to match John.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/13181/284769-59041-katma-tui_large.jpg

I don't know if she knew he was a different race than Hal, or any of the politics involved. John just thought she'd stick out, so she matched him.

It was a funny scene, this black woman runs up to Hal and kisses him in front of Carol Ferris who at that time had no idea how Katma and Hal knew each other.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dNgNPwAJDI4/Rt-B0GObJQI/AAAAAAAAAIg/K481k59lfww/s400/Katma3.jpg

[thehod]

Actually, in Green Lantern Corps Quarterly #4 it showed that the first Earth GL was a woman called Donna Parker who was temporarily a Green Lantern in the 1950s.

http://www.comicvine.com/donna-parker/29-57598/

God, how nerdy am I?

[Skib]

^ Nerdy and AWESOME!

Now I need to track down this book.

[jmresp]

We don't need anymore Green Lanterns from Earth. 4 are too many as it is. Except for Kyle, you have to remember the times that they were created. If the concept came about today, it would probably be different. Think about it, do you think it would have been even a consideration in the Silver Age to have a Lesbian Batwoman?

[The Black Guardian]

She was pretending to be human, back in the day she was depicted with like bright fuchsia skin. Way to bright to pass as human, so she changed her skin tone to match John.
Even today, I don't think a Korugarian could hope to pass as human. No Native Americans are that red.

I agree we don't need any more Earth Lanterns... even the new Red Lantern irritates me.

[paulski]

I count Jade. She had a ring, she wore the classic costume... She was put in charge of the Corps when Kyle went to restart the corps.

So techniquely she was the first of his new corps.

It didn't last long.... but it was legit.

Yup, I count her too. Shame it was abbreviated (sales?) because I thought it was a great idea.

[PretenderNX01]

I agree we don't need any more Earth Lanterns... even the new Red Lantern irritates me.
LOL, yeah I was into the most current Red Lantern issue and then he showed up and I was bored again. Ugh, no more Earth Lanterns period.

I just don't like him either.


Actually, in Green Lantern Corps Quarterly #4 it showed that the first Earth GL was a woman called Donna Parker who was temporarily a Green Lantern in the 1950s.

http://www.comicvine.com/donna-parker/29-57598/

God, how nerdy am I?
Thankyou! I have been trying to look that up and could not remember her name and found nothing. I was beginning to think I made the whole thing up. :tongue:

I'm assuming she disappeared in Flashpoint, if not Infinite Crisis before that.