Kaine/Elizabeth Tyne

[mimic_616]

Out of Kaine's past sins, I think it's fair to say what he did to Elizabeth Tyne was pretty cold.

Does anyone else want to see Yost tackle this in the coming months??

[James Hunter]

Out of Kaine's past sins, I think it's fair to say what he did to Elizabeth Tyne was pretty cold.

Does anyone else want to see Yost tackle this in the coming months??

I would definitely be interested in that, I wonder if Janine would be able to forgive Kaine. It would be interesting to explore.

Cheers.

James.

[Kymeric]

Especially since she was pregnant at the time....

[Assassin Spider]

Especially since she was pregnant at the time....

If you go by the Spider-Girl comics, which as much as I love them are not necessarily canon to the main timeline. The point still bears out that in seeking to hurt Ben Reilly, Kaine hurt Elizabeth Tyne as well and a confrontation between them to hash out their mutual haunting by Ben's memory might do some good. I'm not sure she could forgive him, at least not right away, but she might not hate him as much when she sees that he does genuinely regret what he did to her and Ben. Of course, the idea of her having had a child by Ben could be an interesting development for them both, as that child would be pretty much the last living reminder either of them would have of him. Not to mention someone could be after the kid by virtue of his/her parentage; the natural-born child of a clone, not to mention a clone of Spider-Man, would likely have all sorts of interesting quirks to his/her biology for an enterprising amoral scientist to toy and tinker with. Smelling a Jackal reappearance, come to think of it . . .

[preppistonpav]

If you go by the Spider-Girl comics, which as much as I love them are not necessarily canon to the main timeline. The point still bears out that in seeking to hurt Ben Reilly, Kaine hurt Elizabeth Tyne as well and a confrontation between them to hash out their mutual haunting by Ben's memory might do some good. I'm not sure she could forgive him, at least not right away, but she might not hate him as much when she sees that he does genuinely regret what he did to her and Ben. Of course, the idea of her having had a child by Ben could be an interesting development for them both, as that child would be pretty much the last living reminder either of them would have of him. Not to mention someone could be after the kid by virtue of his/her parentage; the natural-born child of a clone, not to mention a clone of Spider-Man, would likely have all sorts of interesting quirks to his/her biology for an enterprising amoral scientist to toy and tinker with. Smelling a Jackal reappearance, come to think of it . . .

Consider also the fact that Elizabeth Tyne is a convicted murder (although to many, justified). She might be able to provide an interesting perspective to Kaine, considering we know that he'll be struggling with his past.

I know it might sound crazy, but depending on the choices Kaine makes for himself, I could see some interesting dynamics playing themselves out with Tyne. A clone of Peter Parker trying hard to be a good man despite his belief that he is a "non-person?" I think she has a thing for those.

He was kind of a jerkface to her in the past, though. All the violence and stuff.

-Pav, who was putting it mildly...

[Erik B]

Maybe...MAYBE THAT CHILD could be used to further separate Kaine from Peter. We all know people do not want Peter with a baby because it ages him; well Kaine isnt Peter. Besides the fact that he has no idea how to be a hero (see issue one's car scene as proof) imagine him having to be a "uncle" to Elizabeth's child. that would be great. a lot of pro "spider-man with a child" people would be happy and it would definitely make Kaine a whole other person.

[Zak213]

Sounds like a cool idea but would it be a good idea to have too many shoutouts to the 90's scarlet spider series?

[Kymeric]

Kaine with a toddler sidekick! lol

I think if you have a baby while in prison it goes to a relative or foster care.

I would like to see Kaine check in on old clone saga plots like Tyne, and Uncle Bens killers daughter and etc

[CMBMOOL]

Maybe...MAYBE THAT CHILD could be used to further separate Kaine from Peter. We all know people do not want Peter with a baby because it ages him; well Kaine isnt Peter. Besides the fact that he has no idea how to be a hero (see issue one's car scene as proof) imagine him having to be a "uncle" to Elizabeth's child. that would be great. a lot of pro "spider-man with a child" people would be happy and it would definitely make Kaine a whole other person.

Hasn't that already been done though, thanks to Spider-girl ? :confused:

[CMBMOOL]

If you go by the Spider-Girl comics, which as much as I love them are not necessarily canon to the main timeline. The point still bears out that in seeking to hurt Ben Reilly, Kaine hurt Elizabeth Tyne as well and a confrontation between them to hash out their mutual haunting by Ben's memory might do some good. I'm not sure she could forgive him, at least not right away, but she might not hate him as much when she sees that he does genuinely regret what he did to her and Ben. Of course, the idea of her having had a child by Ben could be an interesting development for them both, as that child would be pretty much the last living reminder either of them would have of him. Not to mention someone could be after the kid by virtue of his/her parentage; the natural-born child of a clone, not to mention a clone of Spider-Man, would likely have all sorts of interesting quirks to his/her biology for an enterprising amoral scientist to toy and tinker with. Smelling a Jackal reappearance, come to think of it . . .

Well...at least SOMETHING GOOD came out of OMD/OMIT. :evilsmile:

[Erik B]

Hasn't that already been done though, thanks to Spider-girl ? :confused:

See the thing is that May is never coming back in 616 but we know that Ben did have a kid right? it works this way. but not with Kaine giving the baby up, actually keeping it this time around.