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bba14

01-25-2005, 11:24 PM

Theres this new Anime thats about to start airing on Nick called (Avatar the last Air Bender).They said this Anime should be really good.

This is the Description of the Show:

Water. Earth. Fire. Air. Only the Avatar was the master of all four elements. Only he could stop the ruthless Fire Nation from conquering the world. But when the world needed him most, he disappeared. Until now... On the South Pole, a lone Water Tribe village struggles to survive. It's here that a young Waterbender named Katara and her warrior brother Sokka rescue a strange boy named Aang from a cavernous iceberg. Not only is Aang an Airbender--a race of people no one has seen in a century--but they soon discover that Aang is also the long lost Avatar. Now it's up to Katara and Sokka to make sure Aang faces his destiny to save the tribe--and himself. Did we mention he's only 12?

It Airs on Feb.21 at 7ET on Nick

For more info visit www.nick.com

bba14

01-25-2005, 11:30 PM

This is the Main Character's description of his background

His name is Aang

Aang is a hero—a 12-year-old hero who likes to stir up trouble. Raised by Airbender monks in a temple hidden in the mountains, Aang is the last Airbender and the only known survivor of the Air Nomads. It's Aang's destiny as the Avatar to master all four elements—Air, Water, Earth and Fire. But he'd rather search for adventure than save the world. Though he's very spiritual, Aang doesn't like being known as the mythical Avatar or being the center of attention, he just wants to be a normal kid. Aang loves animals, especially his giant flying bison, Appa, and his pet winged-lemur, Momo. He's quick to take detours along his journey, much to the dismay of Katara and Sokka, and he's a master of getting himself into sticky situations. Luckily for all three of them—and the rest of the world—he's pretty good at getting out of them too.

bba14

01-26-2005, 12:42 AM

So who plans to watch this show?? :) :) :) :)

bba14

01-26-2005, 06:50 PM

Know suggestions at all?

Well I plan to watch it

bba14

02-03-2005, 06:09 AM

This will be Nick's first anime

a. non

02-03-2005, 11:45 AM

It will be the fourth. Nick aired Noozles and Litt'l Bits in the early '90s, and the new Speed Racer a year ago.

beryl

02-03-2005, 03:49 PM

Its gonna use Anime'esuque techniques and does have the Anime look, but its all U.S. (of course with Korea's animators helpin out).

It looks good and shows promise.

-Beryl

bba14

02-04-2005, 05:26 AM

It will be the fourth. Nick aired Noozles and Litt'l Bits in the early '90s, and the new Speed Racer a year ago.

The New Speed Racer are u sure that was real anime??

bba14

02-11-2005, 05:36 AM

Heres more info on Avatar the last Airbender

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-28841/

bba14

02-20-2005, 04:45 PM

1 day left until it airs :D

Trystenn

02-20-2005, 11:30 PM

Are you like a commercial for Airbender or something? :D

xugtr34

02-21-2005, 05:50 PM

just watched the first episode, and i thought it was really good--i might have to tape it every friday if i am not home. anyone else have an opinion?! :confused:

bba14

02-22-2005, 06:12 AM

I watched it

It was pretty good

It didn't bore me

Z-man

02-22-2005, 09:08 PM

Too early to recommend it, but I'm gonna keep watching.

If this is what American shows that try to mimic anime are going to be like from now on, I say "Bring it on." It's not just big eyes and sweatdrops, it's an actual story. I believe that is what makes anime on American tv rather popular.

bba14

02-23-2005, 05:43 AM

I hope it stays good throughout the series

I like the storyline

xugtr34

02-24-2005, 05:48 PM

yah, the story line keeps my interest peaked--they can run with it for a while if it hits, or end it in a season if they need to--i hope that the later doesn't happen though--new episode tomorrow nite! :eek:

bba14

02-25-2005, 06:35 AM

Cartoonnetwork will probably try to bounce back with something good even though they already have good shows

xugtr34

02-25-2005, 02:52 PM

doesn't star wars clone wars start on cartoon network soon? i know the first seasons come out on DVD in march.

i think it is kinda funny that nick finally jumped on the anime bandwagon. at least their first outing is good--

Legato

02-25-2005, 04:16 PM

A few good things this show has going for.

1. A good story. Eventhough Im not fond of the whole "chosen one" angle.

2. Good voice acting. This rarely happens with American Anime shows

3. Some decent fight scenes.

4. Has potential for some really good character development.

xugtr34

02-25-2005, 05:51 PM

just watched episode 2, i am getting more into it. i guess the only thing that is kinda predictable is that "bad memories" are setting off his avatar spirit, hopefully he will be able to control it soon (actually i am sure that he will)

i really do like this series, hopefully they will keep up the good work

Legato, i agree with everything that you said---good points

Legato

02-25-2005, 06:34 PM

Prince Zuko is definitely the character that I will be keeping my eye on. Personaly I find him a much more interesting character than that Avatar kid. Also for some reason I am getting a Vegeta vibe from him.

His Uncle certainly has that Yoda thing going.

SuperSaiyaMan12

02-25-2005, 07:18 PM

Chou Blaster

02-26-2005, 10:34 AM

Well I finaly got to see this.

Not the FIRST anime though.

(The first anime ever was Grims Bros Tales, anime format.)

Anyway: THis show bleeds out Nick's old school production values in their animation movie specials.. Which is a good thing.

Only instead of re-teling a story, their making their own up.

But I see this as a good show. I just hope this show is not sacked due to low ratings or anything.

xugtr34

02-26-2005, 05:29 PM

The Xenos

02-27-2005, 12:48 AM

Darn it, I saw no metal robots smoking cigars in it. I was hoping it was an Air Master / Futurama crossover.

Kidding. Anyway, just happened to catch some of the show the other night. Didn't see much, but what I saw looked surprisingly good.

-Xenos

xugtr34

02-27-2005, 06:00 AM

the robots smoking cigars will be in next weeks episode, :cool: hehe

SAMAS

02-27-2005, 09:23 AM

I saw two episodes, and I'm loving the series already. This is the first time I've even thought to watch Nick in years(yep, that means I missed out on Zim).

bba14

02-27-2005, 10:19 AM

Prince Zuko may redeem the Fire Nation by stopping the war. He may even join with Ang

I truely doubt that

SuperSaiyaMan12

02-27-2005, 11:01 AM

I truely doubt that
from what his uncle said, he may really be the one who will stop the war and redeem his nation.

Chou Blaster

02-27-2005, 05:05 PM

they plugged the show a lot on nick and other stations, so hopefully it is getting decent ratings...

legato, i agree that he kinda has a vegeta bad guy could turn good vibe about him, and his uncle has some pretty good one liners, as does saaka (spelling??)

the show has a mature tone to it, but is kid-friendly so hopefully it has a wide range of viewers

Well considering the Bad guys of this series commited Genocide on Ang's people. This show is as mature as it gets by Nick standards.

Not to mention that commander guy wanting death in same eps.

xugtr34

02-27-2005, 06:25 PM

very true chou, not to mention genocide on a global scale--

samas, zim is out on DVD if you are interested in watching it-

bba14

02-28-2005, 05:59 AM

People his name is spelled Aang

Anyone think Avatar the last Airbender will be at Future Anime Festivals???

Jamal

02-28-2005, 05:06 PM

I'm really getting into this show and the fact that they are showing some real kung fu in the action scenes is enough to keep me watching.

xugtr34

02-28-2005, 05:25 PM

bba14

03-01-2005, 06:07 AM

Anyone think Avatar the last Airbender will be at Future Anime Festivals???

bba14

03-01-2005, 06:18 AM

anyone have an idea where the storyline will go, besides him mastering the 4 elements, and kicking some serious fire bender a$$, like any side stories or funny things he might run into--like chasing the lemur in the air temple kinda lightened the situation--

Aang & the rest of the gang will probably meet new people and interact with them.They probably will want to discover new things because this is Katara and Sokkas' first time ever leaving their homeland the South Pole.They probably will end up in dangerous situations and sidetrack themselves from their mission.

Ugoff

03-01-2005, 03:05 PM

Avatar the Last Air Bender is pure perfection!

xugtr34

03-01-2005, 07:25 PM

that is what i thought, i really do like this show--hopefully nick will keep the good shows rollin in this direction, or at least some

what does everyone think about the humor they throw in?

bba14

03-04-2005, 06:13 AM

New Episode Tonight 8 ET on Nick

Chou Blaster

03-04-2005, 07:02 PM

Am I only one who saw it?

Next week, a repeat of first four episodes.

Anyway: Had a cools ea serpent monster.

Stupid "do get cocky/big ehaded/ crave for attention" message in the ep, for the younger crowd.

Lastly Female warriors using AKido and fans. Also the Boy Eksimo/Water Bender in drag. (Weird.)

Thank GOd I did not write plot though.

Because my verison Nick could not show. (As my Ang would have torn apart a Fire settlement, when finding out about what happened to his people. And I dobut they want to see their hero, being a vengeful killer. But I liek them.)

Rod G

03-04-2005, 09:04 PM

Re : the Fire Nation.

It seems to me like they're all a nasty,rotten bunch with no reedeming qualities whatsoever.

In other words,the firebenders,especially Prince Zuko,are utterly Evil with a capital E.

bba14

03-07-2005, 05:54 AM

I liked the fighting at the end when Prince Zoku and the fire nation came.It happened at the end of the 4th episode.

bba14

03-07-2005, 06:14 AM

If u had to pick which Bender would you be Air,Water,Earth, or Fire??

Rod G

03-07-2005, 06:47 AM

If u had to pick which Bender would you be Air,Water,Earth, or Fire??

Well,if I were nasty,corrupt,rotten and totally and unrepentantly EVIL,I'd pick fire,naturally.

bba14

03-09-2005, 05:39 AM

Airbending would be my choice, Airbending because air controls so many things around us. You can fly or levitate, you can sit on that little air-y ball, you can do that wind draft thing at the end of eppy 2, you can blow people away or literally off their feet, and endless more.

bba14

03-09-2005, 05:43 AM

Earthbender would be my second choice, so I could control rocks and things inside of the Earth.

Chou Blaster

03-10-2005, 07:35 AM

Funny note: Were the Air Benders retarded or soemthing?

I mean Fire, requires air to dance and move around/burn target. Any comptent person, who could control the air could make the flames move somewhere else.. Like back to caster. :evilsmile

bba14

03-11-2005, 05:52 AM

bba14

03-11-2005, 05:57 AM

There reshowing all of the Avatar the last Airbender episodes tonight on Nick at 8 ET/7 central.

I'm planning to record all of them tonight

Cleric of Hell's Brigade

03-11-2005, 07:47 PM

from what his uncle said, he may really be the one who will stop the war and redeem his nation.

Yeah,that was what I was thinking.And I too got the Vegeta vibe feeling about Zoku. How else is Aang going to learn fire bending?

Cleric of Hell's Brigade

03-11-2005, 07:49 PM

Air bending for me. Earth would be my next choice,with Water and Fire tieing for third.

P.S. If it was possible,I would pick lightning/electricity bending. Always thought it would be cool.

SuperSaiyaMan12

03-11-2005, 07:59 PM

Yeah,that was what I was thinking.And I too got the Vegeta vibe feeling about Zoku. How else is Aang going to learn fire bending?
Zuko's uncle would probaby teach him, since he is a fire master and an honorable fighter. I got the Master Roshi/Genkai vibe from him.

Crinos

03-11-2005, 08:10 PM

well, they cant be all bad.

I mean Aang WAS a fire bender in a previous life afterall.

Incidentally, just saw all four episodes for the first time tonight, LOVED THEM!

Cleric of Hell's Brigade

03-11-2005, 08:58 PM

Zuko's uncle would probaby teach him, since he is a fire master and an honorable fighter. I got the Master Roshi/Genkai vibe from him.

Yep.Got that vibe too. I thought it was cool how Aang punked the fire benders in the second episode.Man,if this show keeps up the good work,it will most certainly be on my top ten list of animated shows.

SuperSaiyaMan12

03-11-2005, 09:05 PM

Yep.Got that vibe too. I thought it was cool how Aang punked the fire benders in the second episode.Man,if this show keeps up the good work,it will most certainly be on my top ten list of animated shows.
Nickolodeon is finally going for quality stuff, instead of the crap that they have on mostly all the time.

xugtr34

03-12-2005, 12:15 AM

i guess i really can't decide what i would be--haven't seen enough of all the tribes to decide--but as of right now i guess i would be an airbender

bba14

03-12-2005, 12:57 PM

Did ya'll see the preview of the 5th episode at the commercial breaks?? It looks like the 5th episode will be good when Aang and the rest of the group go to the EARTH kingdom.

Ugoff

03-12-2005, 01:34 PM

Did ya'll see the preview of the 5th episode at the commercial breaks?? It looks like the 5th episode will be good when Aang and the rest of the group go to the EARTH kingdom.

I did! I did! This show is to awesome for words. I just love. I really like that they deal with such grown up subject matter. There not talking down to kids. I'm really glad they addressed Sokka's sexist attitude. Thats something kids could learn from.

Chou Blaster

03-12-2005, 03:48 PM

Doesn't Ang have to learn the arts in order? So isn't he skippnig ahead if he goes right to Earth kingdom?

Still though: Glad that Earth bending is finaly gonig ot be showen. My guess is beside susing the Earht ebnding to tear out the ground, and smakc it at osmeone. Could do some "Armstrong" style attacks.

FUll Metal Alchemist viewers will know, what i am tlaking about.

bba14

03-15-2005, 05:58 AM

Chou Blaster

03-20-2005, 10:06 AM

Cleric of Hell's Brigade

03-20-2005, 10:18 AM

Chou Blaster

03-20-2005, 10:47 AM

I was thinking the same thing. That King could have crushed Aang without much trouble if you ask me.

He didn't because well Ang IS the hope of the World.

I think the King wa sjsut palying around, and the fight ended in draw. Because Ang could have poked King in throat, but King could have flatten Ang like a bug.

And I already have King Earth Bender againsit Lousi Armstrong.

Ugoff

03-21-2005, 06:59 PM

BTW: I changed my mind. Earth bending is BAD ASS. (I would be a Earth Bender0

Their color is Green (My faovrite0 You cna telelkitnecaly control rocks and stone, the training amps your physical body, can teleport in dirt, and can summon pillars by STOMPING!

I didnt get to see the most recent episode cuz they changed the schedule for some reason. Anyone else experience this? Usually it starts at 7 and then is repeated around 10 or 11. The most recent episode was schedule at 10 and I missed it cuz I forgot the time change. I'm not sure yet but I might wait til this is out on DVD cuz I really hate what Nickelodeon has become.

bba14

03-22-2005, 05:39 AM

I didnt get to see the most recent episode cuz they changed the schedule for some reason. Anyone else experience this? Usually it starts at 7 and then is repeated around 10 or 11. The most recent episode was schedule at 10 and I missed it cuz I forgot the time change. I'm not sure yet but I might wait til this is out on DVD cuz I really hate what Nickelodeon has become.

It didn't happen to me maybe because I'm on the east coast

bba14

03-22-2005, 06:23 AM

If they made a game for Avatar the last Airbender would u buy it??? (It would be for PS2, XBOX, and GameCube.)

bba14

03-22-2005, 07:00 AM

NEWS: There making an Avatar the last Airbender card game and a Video game for release in October of 2006 for more info click on the link http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=15058

Ugoff

03-22-2005, 07:52 AM

If they made a game for Avatar the last Airbender would u buy it??? (It would be for PS2, XBOX, and GameCube.)

Yes I would. I hope the game is gonna be good. But we shall see. I'm sure they will make it entertaining.

bba14

03-24-2005, 06:02 AM

Ya the game should be entertaining

bba14

03-25-2005, 06:18 AM

New episode tonight at 8ET/7 C on Nick for any newbies.

Z-man

03-26-2005, 07:07 PM

BTW: I changed my mind. Earth bending is BAD ASS. (I would be a Earth Bender0

Their color is Green (My faovrite0 You cna telelkitnecaly control rocks and stone, the training amps your physical body, can teleport in dirt, and can summon pillars by STOMPING!

True, but as the next episode proved, Earthbenders can be disarmed(EDIT: Okay, so it takes a metal boat, but it's still possible), whereas fire and air benders are always armed, with fire being more agressive ("Avoid and evade, typical airbender tactics"-Boomy).

I gotta go with air myself, always wanted to fly. Plus those water nation coats look too hot for me.

Crinos

03-26-2005, 08:06 PM

Hmm... Zuko found that girls necklace (Keep forgetting her and her brothers names, Ami was it?)

Five bucks say they become an item after Zuko turns good.

Z-man

03-26-2005, 08:35 PM

Hmm... Zuko found that girls necklace (Keep forgetting her and her brothers names, Ami was it?)

Five bucks say they become an item after Zuko turns good.

Kitara is the girl, Saka is her brother. They're both secondary to Aang, so they barely register as having names, I know.

And the only guy for Kitara is Aang. I always thought Zuko was going to turn good, up until he found the necklace.

Crinos

03-26-2005, 09:25 PM

Kitara is the girl, Saka is her brother. They're both secondary to Aang, so they barely register as having names, I know.

And the only guy for Kitara is Aang. I always thought Zuko was going to turn good, up until he found the necklace.

why would the finding the necklace exclude him from becoming good? Here's what I see: Kitara and Zuko meet somehow, Zuko presents the necklace, Kitara demands it back saying it belonged to her mother, Zuko agrees, citing that he lost his mother somehow too. (He seems like a classic "Mom died at some point" character to me.) Which leads to the two of them finding common ground on something and connecting.

and we go with there: Zuko turns good, Zkuo's uncle trains AAng in firebending, etc.

Z-man

03-26-2005, 10:12 PM

why would the finding the necklace exclude him from becoming good? Here's what I see: Kitara and Zuko meet somehow, Zuko presents the necklace, Kitara demands it back saying it belonged to her mother, Zuko agrees, citing that he lost his mother somehow too. (He seems like a classic "Mom died at some point" character to me.) Which leads to the two of them finding common ground on something and connecting.

and we go with there: Zuko turns good, Zkuo's uncle trains AAng in firebending, etc.

There was that look of satisfaction upon finding something close to Kitara, which strikes me as more in the "evil" side than the "Potentially redeeming" side.

Crinos

03-27-2005, 09:55 AM

There was that look of satisfaction upon finding something close to Kitara, which strikes me as more in the "evil" side than the "Potentially redeeming" side.

Uh, I think he was satisfied because he had found some evidence that the Avatar had been around. Seeing as he knows Kitara is traveling with him.

Despite his bad temper and obsession with finding Aang, Zuko seems like an honorable individual.

Z-man

03-27-2005, 10:09 PM

Uh, I think he was satisfied because he had found some evidence that the Avatar had been around. Seeing as he knows Kitara is traveling with him.

Despite his bad temper and obsession with finding Aang, Zuko seems like an honorable individual.

Still, the imagery that stays with me is him taking Kitara's only connection with her mother, the final removal of Kitara's mother from her life by firebenders.

EDIT: And honor does not mean he'll turn good. Doom has honor, and he manages to stay a bad guy.

bba14

04-02-2005, 09:53 AM

D@mmit I missed last night new episode I'll catch the rerun next week!!!

SuperSaiyaMan12

04-02-2005, 10:05 AM

D@mmit I missed last night new episode I'll catch the rerun next week!!!
You didn't miss anything man, it was a rerun.

bba14

04-02-2005, 10:13 AM

You didn't miss anything man, it was a rerun.

Oh I thought they showed an new episode this week, thanks though

Chou Blaster

04-02-2005, 02:18 PM

It was all about the Kids CHocie Awards, so just reruns mostly.

SuperSaiyaMan12

04-08-2005, 05:27 PM

Excellent episode. I can't wait to see Aang talk to the previous Avatar, and is that comet going to be the thing to unite all the nations?

Z-man

04-08-2005, 11:50 PM

Excellent episode. I can't wait to see Aang talk to the previous Avatar, and is that comet going to be the thing to unite all the nations?

I doubt they're going to unite the nations so soon.

GremlinClr

04-12-2005, 07:42 PM

Well, I got in late on this show. I watched the little mini marathon they had Saterday and have seen all but the first episode (which they inexplicibly didn't show) and wow is this a great show. :) Can't wait for more new episodes.

xugtr34

05-03-2005, 05:05 AM

the show is getting better and better with every episode,this weeks episode (week of 5-2-05) looks like it could be awesome if done correctly.

Rod G

05-03-2005, 06:33 AM

Like Sokka , I see all firebenders as unrepentably evil to the core . . .

(With one unimportant exception,I suppose)

Scubbily

05-03-2005, 01:31 PM

I saw Avatar for the first time about a week ago. It was the episode where the air bender goes to the temple to see Avatar Roku(not sure of spelling). I was completely blown away the Nick would pick something this cool up. I haven't watched Nickelodeon since they got rid of Kenan and Kel. I had no idea that they would try and branch into the anime business. Pretty savvy of them.

Silver Knight

05-07-2005, 08:06 PM

Man I wish Id seen this earlier. I just saw Avatar a week ago, or was it 2 weeks. Any way that day they had one episode of Avatar and then a marathon of Danny Phantom, (which is actualy good, Nick must be trying to compete with disney and CN with action type cartoons) then the next day it was going to be one episode of Danny Phantom, and a marathon of Avatar. I thought, "Yes I can catch up with this show." But I had to go and my house does not have cable, only my grandmas house does. So I was like Darn it. I actually like that show, I think its been edited soemwhat to make it more kiddy, oh well, I think it great and I love the Myasaki style animation, seen in such films as Princess Monoke, Spirted Away, and other great films. I know Princess Monoke wasnt Myasaki, but the animation is somewhat like his style.
I like it and would like to get it on DVD, or hopefully its in Manga form.

The episode I saw is the one where the the girl, darn I cant rember her name, steals a water scroll from Pirates, it was a good episode, Im glad that was the first one I saw.

SAMAS

05-08-2005, 07:35 AM

No, Mononoke was Miyazaki's work.

anansi

05-08-2005, 07:47 AM

as an aside...

for those of you that appreciate the "realness" of the fight scenes...that's cause its based off of real kung fu. My sifu is the consultant for the martial arts used in this. Its mostly based off of Northern Shaolin kung fu

Silver Knight

05-08-2005, 07:54 AM

No, Mononoke was Miyazaki's work.

Really, WOW. I had no Idea, I must have watched that more than a few times, but they never said Miyazaki did it. My very high opnion of him just shot up 100 points.

bba14

05-17-2005, 09:06 AM

What ranking or status would you give Avatar the last Airbender of all the shows you like to watch???

SICKLELEE's TOP 5 SHOWS OR ANIME's

1. Avatar the last Airbender/ Shura No Toki Age of Chaos (Can't decide between the two)

2. Rurouni Kenshin the TV series or Samurai X

3. Fullmetal Alchemist

4. Yu Yu Hakusho

5. Inuyasha

Scubbily

05-18-2005, 04:44 AM

I don't see it everyday but when I catch it I like it a lot. I would rank it probably #8 or #9.

bba14

05-23-2005, 08:15 AM

Lets say if you were the creator of Avatar the last Airbender how would you get your show to be favored by more people and what other adjustments would you give Avatar the Airbender to make it a top notch show like the animes Fullmetal Alchemist, Samurai X, Inuyasha, and so much more great anime titles???

The only thing I can think of right now is to probably advertise more like when the show first came out. I would try to get my show in more magazines so people could check out my show to see if they like it or not. Not only would that help boost up the company's tv ratings but the show itself. I would try to get Avatar the airbender in magazines like New Type USA and Beckett anime even though its an American anime, but it should still get some recognition in their magazine because it does have the word anime in American anime. I'm not trying to say Avatar the airbender sucks are anything its really a great show to watch. Avatar is one of my favorite shows out there its in my top 5 list of animes even if its an American production.Thats basically what I would do if I was the creator of Avatar the last airbender

Scubbily

05-24-2005, 02:02 PM

The creator did the right thing by licensing it to Nickelodeon. This way it will be viewed by younger kids and therfore the whole anime business might do better. Though I doubt it. Little kids prolly just think of it as another cartoon instead of an anime.

Jamal

05-24-2005, 04:32 PM

Does anybody know what day and time Avatar is shown?
It's hasn't been on friday night's or saturday mornings and when I did a search on my comcast it didn't come up.

SuperSaiyaMan12

05-24-2005, 04:37 PM

Does anybody know what day and time Avatar is shown?
It's hasn't been on friday night's or saturday mornings and when I did a search on my comcast it didn't come up.
It's on Fridays nights at 8:00 PM on Nickolodeon.

Jamal

05-24-2005, 05:15 PM

Thanks I'll check for it friday!

bba14

05-31-2005, 08:51 AM

Am I the only one still keeping up with the tv series???

SuperSaiyaMan12

05-31-2005, 08:53 AM

Am I the only one still keeping up with the tv series???
The upcoming episode looks really good, and has a lot of mature themes in it. Nick better not cancel it, since it is their best show on their network.

bba14

06-02-2005, 07:01 AM

The upcoming episode looks really good, and has a lot of mature themes in it. Nick better not cancel it, since it is their best show on their network.

Nick wouldn't cancel it tv ratings have gone up since the show released in FEB and the show did last this far.

Rod G

06-02-2005, 07:47 AM

I always thought Zuko was going to turn good, up until he found the necklace.

Zuko turn good ? Yeah right!

There's no such thing as a good firebender.

Remember,all firebenders are EVIL!

Z-man

06-02-2005, 11:45 AM

Zuko turn good ? Yeah right!

There's no such thing as a good firebender.

Remember,all firebenders are EVIL!

There's nothing to support that.

Z-man

06-02-2005, 11:46 AM

You remember how, in "The Southern Air Temple," Aang said that the only way to get to the temple was with a flying bison?

Well, what if the firebenders had an airbender or two on their side? Perhaps Aang isn't the last Airbender after all.

bba14

06-03-2005, 09:56 AM

Rod G

06-03-2005, 07:15 PM

ya u might be right or the firebenders probably killed him after they used him.

Well,what did you expect from firebenders,huh?

Legato

06-04-2005, 10:46 AM

Zuko turn good ? Yeah right!

There's no such thing as a good firebender.

Remember,all firebenders are EVIL!

What about Zuko's uncle? I see no sign of evil in him.

Z-man

06-05-2005, 05:47 PM

Zuko turn good ? Yeah right!

There's no such thing as a good firebender.

Remember,all firebenders are EVIL!

Aang had fire nation friends before he was frozen, General Iroh isn't bad, the last Avatar was a firebender, and no invading nation is 100% evil.

bba14

06-06-2005, 06:46 AM

The new episode this past Friday gave a whole lot of info on past events in Aang's and Zuko's life. It was very interesting

bba14

06-06-2005, 07:57 AM

Avatar: The Last Airbender has ranked among the top rated cable television programs approximately a half-dozen times as of current. The success of the program is not limited to only national exposure however; as only recently at the Ninth Annual Cartoons on the Bay International Festival in Italy, the animated television series was honored with two awards for its stylistic uniqueness and plot comprehension. Awarded The Best Action & Adventure Series And The Best Series of the Year, Avatar: The Last Airbender looks to be an animated television series well gauged for further success on Nickelodeon.

for more details click on the link
http://www.animationinsider.net/article.php?articleID=749

Z-man

06-07-2005, 08:10 AM

bba14

06-08-2005, 08:51 AM

Is Avatar the last Airbender in Japan and is it popular or doing well just like in the United States???

bba14

06-14-2005, 07:54 AM

What tribe outfit do ya'll like the best out of Airbenders, Waterbenders, Earthbenders, or Firebenders and what which one would you wear on the daily basis???

bba14

06-18-2005, 01:23 PM

Prince Zuko may redeem the Fire Nation by stopping the war. He may even join with Ang

SuperSaiyaMan12 you might be right

Aang and Zuko might become friends in the future concering on what happened in the 13th episode.

Rod G

06-18-2005, 08:22 PM

SuperSaiyaMan12 you might be right

Aang and Zuko might become friends in the future concering on what happened in the 13th episode.

I doubt it.

Scubbily

06-18-2005, 11:01 PM

I doubt it.
Seriously, have you even watched it, bba14. I agree completely with Rod G. Zuko hates Aang with a PASSION. He will stop at nothing to destroy him.

SuperSaiyaMan12

06-19-2005, 07:51 AM

Seriously, have you even watched it, bba14. I agree completely with Rod G. Zuko hates Aang with a PASSION. He will stop at nothing to destroy him.
Then why did he rescue him? He seemed changed after that speech Aang gave him.

SAMAS

06-19-2005, 11:22 AM

bba14

06-21-2005, 04:39 PM

It's not that Zuko hates Aang(although he certainly doesn't like him). It's just that for Zuko, literally everything he has rests on capturing him and bringing him to his father. It's not exactly something that will endear your target to you.

He rescued Aang from Admiral Zhao because He needed to be the one to capture Aang. If Zhao takes him in first, he's stuck out.

Samas I know why Zuko rescued Aang of course I;m talking about when Aang gave him the speech about how he use to have a friend in the firenation.

It almost sounded like Aang wanted to become friends with Zuko and then at the end they showed Zuko looking at the Firenation flag.

Z-man

07-01-2005, 08:13 PM

Good news, I think. In adds for the new Nicktoon "Catscratch," they trot out their big deal toons Spongebob, Fairly OddParents, and... Avatar. I think that's a good sign.

bba14

07-18-2005, 07:05 AM

I know its kinda late to say this

"Avatar" ended its first season, and Nickelodeon has ordered 20 new episodes for a second season, expected to premiere early next year.

SAMAS

07-18-2005, 07:21 AM

Samas I know why Zuko rescued Aang of course I;m talking about when Aang gave him the speech about how he use to have a friend in the firenation.

I wasn't answering your question. :D

Rod G

07-18-2005, 11:12 AM

I know its kinda late to say this

"Avatar" ended its first season, and Nickelodeon has ordered 20 new episodes for a second season, expected to premiere early next year.

Looks like we can expect more evil Firebenders for Aang and company to fight.

Z-man

07-19-2005, 12:12 AM

I know its kinda late to say this

"Avatar" ended its first season, and Nickelodeon has ordered 20 new episodes for a second season, expected to premiere early next year.

Actually, it's 20 eps per "book," so we've got 26 more episodes to look forward to.

The rest of this post shares spoilers from the Avatar panel at Comic-con. These are confirmed, people.

There's the storyteller in episode 14, and the northern air temple in episode 17. Aang will be learning firebending soon and Katara will discover a new ability she never knew she had (I'm banking on her having been destined to be the avatar after Aang, and now she's gonna tap some of that.), and then there's Azula, Zuko's evil little sister.

SAMAS

07-19-2005, 02:48 AM

That would explain that girl who seemed way too happy to see Zuko lose against his father.

Z-man

07-19-2005, 10:48 PM

That would explain that girl who seemed way too happy to see Zuko lose against his father.

That was Azula.

EnFuego

12-14-2005, 01:11 PM

HOLA! :D I have waches what i can catch of the 1st season and thought that the finalle was GREAT! Thats just me. I am still shocked that the girl (of whom i dont know her name anymore) that became the moon goddess was destin to do that! That compleatly shocked me :eek: . I was about to break the tv at how bad the finalle was going then she saved the show! Wow it was good. :p Does anybody know the exact date the show is supposed to bome back on or is that even scheduled yet??? just to clarify the shows are on friday at 8:00 on Nick?

Crinos

12-14-2005, 01:47 PM

Cowlander

12-14-2005, 02:28 PM

Just tell me when DVD's start dropping this show is to badass not to have them.

yeoman

12-14-2005, 03:07 PM

Just tell me when DVD's start dropping this show is to badass not to have them.

IIRC the last previews had solicits for volume 1. So it should be out early next year.

Bloopinator

12-14-2005, 03:21 PM

The show's cool.

Crimson King

12-14-2005, 06:19 PM

But is was made in California

Chou Blaster

12-15-2005, 10:22 AM

But is was made in California

:Smash!: Avatar still a good show though.

Crinos

01-04-2006, 11:45 AM

You know something, I've been giving the Avatar finale some thought and I think that Ko the face stealer will be back next season, and that he'll be fighting Iroh.

Evidence:

When Zuko heads out to hunt for the Avatar, Iroh confides in him that ever since he lost his son he's thought of Zuko as his son.

Later, when Iroh is warning Zhou about harming the spirits, Zhou comments that he knows that Iroh fears the spirits, and that he knows of Iroh's travels to the spirit world.

And lastly, when Aang finishes speaking with Ko, the last face Ko shows looks like a younger version of Iroh.

Which leads me to believe that Iroh and his son went to the spirit world for some reason, met the face stealer, and Iroh's son lost his face to him.

EnFuego

01-24-2006, 07:02 PM

all i want is the time that the series starts up again. and yay its comming out on dvd!!! :D !! and YAY SKI CLUB ROX! (sheer randomness)(just ignore randomness.) while im being randome who likes to b randome here?

bba14

01-30-2006, 09:31 AM

For anyone who is interested the Avatar dvd comes out tommorrow which will be January the 31st. The DVD only contains episodes 1-4. You have to give the show a while to get good it may seem kiddy at first but it gets serious and better as the show developes.

Heres the link to more info about it

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?v=glance&n=130

EnFuego

02-19-2006, 01:54 PM

ok i am not good with keeping up on show times. tell me again when avatar is starting again :confused: ? this would be very helpfull! :D

stud

04-30-2006, 08:07 AM

there should be a game for it coming out this fall

YA

heres some info on it

Avatar: The Last Airbender brings one of Nick's newest shows to game consoles for the first time. The show's martial-arts action will kick onto the Revolution, GameCube, PlayStation 2, Xbox, Game Boy Advance, DS, PSP, and the PC this fall.

Young Avenger

04-30-2006, 02:44 PM

I don't like how Nick is treating this show. The only time I'm able to see Avatar is on Fridays in it's usual timeslot. They don't give reruns of the show throughout the week. Instead they show constant repeats of Sponsebob (sp?), Fairy Oddparents and Jimmy Neutron. Hell, Avatar doesn't even get promoted anymore. Nick is treating Avatar how CN treats JLU. The Nicktoons network is the only place where I can get my Avatar fix :( .

P.S. Anyone who if Nick will release a boxset of the first season?

CDB

05-05-2006, 05:40 PM

Did you guys see tonight's epsiode. Kicked all kinds of ass!!

*Spoilers*

The group gets a new member. A 12 yr old blind Earthbending girl named Tuff... And that she is. The little girl is like Daredevil and Avalanche only waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful:eek:

Her radar version pwns DareDevil's.

Chocolove

05-05-2006, 10:15 PM

Toph was pretty cool, though I thought she was a boy at first. Having an earthbender join was kinda predictable, but there was really no other route that the story could take. Now all that's left is Iroh to teach firebending. :rolleyes:

SAMAS

05-05-2006, 10:33 PM

Actually, I think Zuko might be the one to do it.

Oh and:

*Puts Toph on the list of Cute Little Badasses.*

CDB

05-05-2006, 11:37 PM

Actually, I think Zuko might be the one to do it.

Oh and:

*Puts Toph on the list of Cute Little Badasses.*

I second that;)

Far From Realmer

05-06-2006, 03:20 PM

Now all that's left is Iroh to teach firebending.
Isn't Aang still under the "i will never firebend again" thing? Because if he is we're going to need a life lesson episode to reverse that, which probably won't occur until the 3rd season.

Chocolove

05-07-2006, 01:29 PM

Isn't Aang still under the "i will never firebend again" thing? Because if he is we're going to need a life lesson episode to reverse that, which probably won't occur until the 3rd season.

He's moved beyond that (in the same episode), though it would be plausible for him to become a bit wary when re-introduced to the concept. As far as Zuko is concerned, I don't see him teaching Aang unless he goes through a major personality change, which is something I doubt. Zuko's seemed to fall into the 'tragic hero' mold. Furthermore, there's just less for Iroh to do at this point. But you never know.

SAMAS

05-07-2006, 05:19 PM

Actually, Aang only promised not to try Firebending again until he could get a real teacher.

SAMAS

05-07-2006, 05:21 PM

He's moved beyond that (in the same episode), though it would be plausible for him to become a bit wary when re-introduced to the concept. As far as Zuko is concerned, I don't see him teaching Aang unless he goes through a major personality change, which is something I doubt.

I dunno, he's already halfway to that point, now. Sure, he's got another book or so before it has to happen, but it seems that he's going to spend most of this season taking a hard look at the way he saw the world before.

Young Avenger

05-12-2006, 05:32 PM

Did anyone see this week's episode? It's easily the best episode to date. Tonight's episode was all about Zuko and some moments in his past were revealed. He had a very close relationship with his mom and his sister is a cold-hearted bitch. It's interesting to know that Zuko's uncle was originally suppose to be the firelord not Zuko's dad. It also explains why Zuko's dad hates him so much.

CDB

05-12-2006, 05:36 PM

Anybody catch tonight's espiode. Zuko's history is revealed. All of it except his father, his face is still concealed. Anyways Zuko just earned a spot at the "I badass" table.

Young Avenger

05-12-2006, 05:45 PM

I wonder why Zuko never had his hair grow before. He looks so much better now then the previous season.

CDB

05-12-2006, 05:53 PM

I wonder why Zuko never had his hair grow before. He looks so much better now then the previous season.

I agree. Man this season is kicking ass.;) Though one wanders what really happened to his mother and his grandfather....

...And also his father and sister need their asses handed to them.:mad:

Young Avenger

05-12-2006, 06:04 PM

I agree. Man this season is kicking ass.;) Though one wanders what really happened to his mother and his grandfather....

My guess is my Zuko's mom died in his place and Zuko's sister killed her grandfather.

Chocolove

05-12-2006, 06:52 PM

I actually fell asleep not long before this episode started, deciding that since it was a Zuko episode I wouldn't be missing anything. I got up four minutes in and was swiftly reminded why this show is so good. Interesting how this episode was patterned after Westerns, even the town had that cliche appearance to it. The first time Zuko left, I was half-expecting the kid to cry 'Come back, Shane!'

Far From Realmer

05-12-2006, 07:15 PM

My guess is my Zuko's mom died in his place and Zuko's sister killed her grandfather.
I have an alternate theory, which stems from two things
1. The whole turtle duck scene at the beginning.
2. That she was wearing dark clothes and sneaking when she entered Zuko's bedroom.
I think she assassinated Zuko's Grandfather and then was caught and killed for it. Of course they only said she was dead, she might have escaped. Either scenario would mean a cover up. After all, if she killed Zuko's Grandfather and it got out to the public, it could cause a civil war.

But i have a hard time believing Zuko's sister killed her Grandfather. Not because she isn't ruthless enough. But she had no reason to at that time, if Zuko was killed her greatest rival would be gone. And even after that impressive display she gave, i have a hard time believing she would have the power or the skill to do it.

Either way i think we can all agree Zuko's grandfather was killed, and his father had the whole inheriting the crown thing faked.

yeoman

05-13-2006, 12:21 AM

I actually fell asleep not long before this episode started, deciding that since it was a Zuko episode I wouldn't be missing anything.

Heck, I assumed it would be an intresting episode *because* it focus on Zuko.

It's a credit to the series that virtually every member of the cast is developed enough to pull a spotlight episode. Even Sokka, though the deeper side of his personality rarely comes up.

Young Avenger

05-13-2006, 05:41 AM

I have an alternate theory, which stems from two things
1. The whole turtle duck scene at the beginning.
2. That she was wearing dark clothes and sneaking when she entered Zuko's bedroom.
I think she assassinated Zuko's Grandfather and then was caught and killed for it. Of course they only said she was dead, she might have escaped. Either scenario would mean a cover up. After all, if she killed Zuko's Grandfather and it got out to the public, it could cause a civil war.

But i have a hard time believing Zuko's sister killed her Grandfather. Not because she isn't ruthless enough. But she had no reason to at that time, if Zuko was killed her greatest rival would be gone. And even after that impressive display she gave, i have a hard time believing she would have the power or the skill to do it.

Either way i think we can all agree Zuko's grandfather was killed, and his father had the whole inheriting the crown thing faked.

That makes a lot of sense. Though I still think Zuko's sister still had something to do with her grandfather's death. When she and Zuko was on her mother's clamber she did say that her father should become the Firelord and expecting for her Uncle to die in the war. Then there was her sinister smile at the funeral. Leads me to believe she's responsible for one of the deaths.

SAMAS

05-13-2006, 06:18 AM

Wanting someone dead and being able to kill them are two different things. Had Azula been the same age she is now, maybe. But no way Azula could have killed him as a kid and gotten away with it. She just wasn't devious enough for that yet.

But I don't think Zuko's mother is dead, even though she may have had a hand in the Fire Lord's death. Right before she left, you could hear footsteps coming, presumably guards. Had she been executed, they certainly would have shown it.

I think she's going to appear in a later episode.

CDB

05-13-2006, 08:35 AM

But I don't think Zuko's mother is dead, even though she may have had a hand in the Fire Lord's death. Right before she left, you could hear footsteps coming, presumably guards. Had she been executed, they certainly would have shown it.

I think she's going to appear in a later episode.

I actually can see that happening. As for what happened to Zuko's grandfather. I believe his father is partially responisble, though he could've had help from his wife or Azula.

Legato

05-13-2006, 09:58 AM

But I don't think Zuko's mother is dead, even though she may have had a hand in the Fire Lord's death. Right before she left, you could hear footsteps coming, presumably guards. Had she been executed, they certainly would have shown it.

I think she's going to appear in a later episode.

Not only I believe that Zuko's mother is still alive but I could see her playing a more Ben Kanobi role by teaching Firebending to Aang.

CDB

05-23-2006, 04:13 PM

Not only I believe that Zuko's mother is still alive but I could see her playing a more Ben Kanobi role by teaching Firebending to Aang.

...that's a longshot. More likely she's dead. Iroh would be the flat out possible choice to teach Aang firebending.

SAMAS

05-23-2006, 09:00 PM

...that's a longshot. More likely she's dead. Iroh would be the flat out possible choice to teach Aang firebending.

If Ursa was dead, they would have shown it.

CDB

05-24-2006, 07:06 AM

If Ursa was dead, they would have shown it.

So your saying she's still alive cuz they didn't show her death. Hmmm...:rolleyes:

SAMAS

05-24-2006, 02:18 PM

So your saying she's still alive cuz they didn't show her death. Hmmm...:rolleyes:

Yes. Considering that she was half the focus on that episode, there was no reason not to show or even mention her death unless it hadn't happened.

If she was going off to be killed in Zuko's place, she would not have dressed in dark clothing, best worn to help prevent attention from being drawn to her. Furthermore, she said that all she had done(note the past tense) was for Zuko. So she wasn't likely going to do whatever she did, as she had already done it. Finally, just before she leaves, you hear the tromping of oncoming guards. They would not have been needed had she been about to go willingly. At least, not that many.

CDB

05-24-2006, 03:15 PM

Yes. Considering that she was half the focus on that episode, there was no reason not to show or even mention her death unless it hadn't happened.

If she was going off to be killed in Zuko's place, she would not have dressed in dark clothing, best worn to help prevent attention from being drawn to her. Furthermore, she said that all she had done(note the past tense) was for Zuko. So she wasn't likely going to do whatever she did, as she had already done it. Finally, just before she leaves, you hear the tromping of oncoming guards. They would not have been needed had she been about to go willingly. At least, not that many.

Hmmm..good theory.;)

Young Avenger

05-26-2006, 05:30 PM

Just finished watching Avatar. Azula is a mega bitch! She killed Iroh!! I demand her head!

Legato

05-26-2006, 06:05 PM

Just finished watching Avatar. Azula is a mega bitch! She killed Iroh!! I demand her head!

She will pay. Dont know who will make her pay but she will pay.

Young Avenger

05-26-2006, 07:16 PM

She will pay. Dont know who will make her pay but she will pay.

Zuko will make her pay. Iroh death just made their rivalry much more personal.

yeoman

05-26-2006, 10:59 PM

Just finished watching Avatar. Azula is a mega bitch! She killed Iroh!! I demand her head!

Nah, Iroh was, IIRC, still moaning in pain when they left. We don't know for sure that he's dead yet. Though it doesn't look particularly good for him.

If he is dead, well, I'm starting to think more and more that Zuko might end up the big bad of the series, and a dead Iroh could put him on that path. Possibly deposing his father at some point, leading to a final confrontation between a comet empowered Zuko and Aang. But that's just a theory.

Far From Realmer

05-26-2006, 11:27 PM

It would be sad if Iroh died, especially considering such a blast shouldn't kill him. After all, he's at least as tough a Zuko, who took some mean hits. Hopefully it will only be a "put out of comission for the season thing". By then hopefully Azula will be brought down. Either way this puts him at the bottom of the "teach Aang firebending" list. Or considering his talk with Tuff it may put him at the top if he survives.

West Mantooth

05-27-2006, 07:52 AM

Did anyone else catch that look Iroh had with Tuff at the confrontation and then something else happened between them when he was on the ground?

Zeta

05-27-2006, 02:48 PM

Far From Realmer

05-27-2006, 03:57 PM

SAMAS

05-27-2006, 08:14 PM

Azula is Cassandra Cain in Avatar form. She fought against five Benders, all extremely talented (if not masters), plus Sokka, and not only got away without a scratch, but managed to take out Iroh in the process. Geebus.

Except for the fact that three out of the five were dead tired, and she really didn't do all that much actual fighting against them all.

yeoman

05-28-2006, 02:24 AM

Not surprising considering that during the Zuko episode she was said to be as good as her Grandfather at that age.

Plus you have to consider her mastery of that blue fire. A talent they have never come across.

I'm kinda wondering if it's somethign not normally found. Which lead me to this thought: What if Aang skipping 100 years threw something off, and Azula should have been the Avatar of the current day had the cycle of rebirth continued over the pervious century. Something like she has the innate talent, but none of the higher abilities.

But that would require two other avatars between Aang and twenty years ago. And we know it's not overly unusual for people on Aang's world to live over 100 years. Outside Boomi, I believe it was mentioned that some of the very elderly in the world can still remember the start of the war. So it might be uncommon, but hardly unusual.

So, jsut a theory.

SAMAS

05-28-2006, 06:33 AM

yeoman

05-28-2006, 10:00 AM

Azula couldn't be the Avatar, as Fire is the furthest from the Cycle. The last Avatar before Aang was Roku, and he was from the Fire Nation.

Without the skip, the next Avatar in the cycle would have been from the Water Tribes.

Iow, Katara has a better chance of being the person who's supposed to have been the next Avatar than Azula.

I didn't say next. I said this generations. The problem with that theory is that would mean there would have supposed to have been two others, and we know people in Aang's world can live a long, long time.

SAMAS

05-28-2006, 11:59 AM

No, we're talking about cycles here. Every 100 years, a new Avatar emerges.

Had Aang not interrupted the chain by going into stasis, the Avatar, which would have shown up around this generation, still would have been from the Water Tribe.

Which, again, points to Katara before Azula. The Avatar won't be from the Fire Nation for another 2 cycles. Wether Aang interrupted the chain or not, there would not have been any other Avatars until 100 years after Aang was either born or died.

CDB

05-28-2006, 01:11 PM

Just finished watching Avatar. Azula is a mega bitch! She killed Iroh!! I demand her head!

.....The bitch did WHAT!?:eek: Damn, I knew this epsiode was gonna be badass. But killing off Iroh.:eek: that's a shocker.

Avatar is beginnng to be, if not is the JLU of Nick.

Edit: Is Iroh offically dead or just severly f*cked up!!

yeoman

05-28-2006, 07:09 PM

Chocolove

05-28-2006, 11:46 PM

Edit: Is Iroh offically dead or just severly f*cked up!!

Tune in next week(no one knows)!

ddqfpluskick

05-29-2006, 07:07 AM

I don't recall them ever saying 100 years. Everything I remember is that the Avatar is reborn after dying. Presumably there's an avatarless period where the new avatar is growing up and then training.

Here's the things. Avatar is not a position. The avatar is the spirit of the world born into human form. Yes there is a cycle Water, Earth, Fire, Air. However, the spirit of the world must move on into another body for that person to become the Avatar. Keep in mind Avatar Roku was a pretty old guy when he died and his spirit was born into Aang. So at least two generations of airbenders were born while Avatar Roku was alive. Thus the avatar is not born into each generation. There is no avatarless period because once the avatar dies the next reincarnation is born. This new avatar is still the avatar with the ability to master all for elements. However, until this new avatar can be found and trained no one knows who that person is not even the new avatar.

Therefore Azula is in no way connected to the Avatar. Keep in mind Azuala is extremely talented which means she knows some advance fire bending. Katara was the same way she did not know about water bending being able to heal until she accidentally discovered it on her own.

yeoman

05-29-2006, 09:07 PM

Here's the things. Avatar is not a position. The avatar is the spirit of the world born into human form. Yes there is a cycle Water, Earth, Fire, Air. However, the spirit of the world must move on into another body for that person to become the Avatar. Keep in mind Avatar Roku was a pretty old guy when he died and his spirit was born into Aang. So at least two generations of airbenders were born while Avatar Roku was alive. Thus the avatar is not born into each generation. There is no avatarless period because once the avatar dies the next reincarnation is born. This new avatar is still the avatar with the ability to master all for elements. However, until this new avatar can be found and trained no one knows who that person is not even the new avatar.

Where was this "Spirit of the world" thing brought up?

Yes, I'm aware it's not a generational thing. That doesn't mean that someone else wasn't intended to be the Avatar at the current point in time other than Aang. I'm also not saying it's the case, just an intresting idea.

And by "Avatarless" peroid I was, infact, referring to the peroid between one Avatar's death, and the time at which the next reincarnation has acheived mastery of all the elements.

SAMAS

05-30-2006, 07:13 AM

Where was this "Spirit of the world" thing brought up?

Yes, I'm aware it's not a generational thing. That doesn't mean that someone else wasn't intended to be the Avatar at the current point in time other than Aang. I'm also not saying it's the case, just an intresting idea.

We didn't say there wasn't. We're just saying that person would have been from the Water Tribe, not the Fire Nation.

And by "Avatarless" peroid I was, infact, referring to the peroid between one Avatar's death, and the time at which the next reincarnation has acheived mastery of all the elements. Actually, it until the next reincarnation was born. Aang was revealed to be the Avatar long before he gained mastery of the elements, remember?

yeoman

05-30-2006, 09:40 AM

We didn't say there wasn't. We're just saying that person would have been from the Water Tribe, not the Fire Nation.

Yes. I *get* that. But who knows how many avatars there should have beenduring that time period. I admit it's an unlikely prospect, but just an idea.

Actually, it until the next reincarnation was born. Aang was revealed to be the Avatar long before he gained mastery of the elements, remember?

Yes, but he wasn't out splittling islands from the mainland, negotioating peace accords, or flying around on a six legged bison for several years. IOW, he had the potential, but could not do the job.

SAMAS

05-30-2006, 11:56 AM

Yes. I *get* that. But who knows how many avatars there should have beenduring that time period.

None. There is always a hundred-year gap between the death of the previous Avatar, and the birth/emergence of the next.

Yes, but he wasn't out splittling islands from the mainland, negotioating peace accords, or flying around on a six legged bison for several years. IOW, he had the potential, but could not do the job.

That's because they had just then found out he was the Avatar.

yeoman

05-30-2006, 12:28 PM

None. There is always a hundred-year gap between the death of the previous Avatar, and the birth/emergence of the next.

Again, I ask where this was ever stated.

That's because they had just then found out he was the Avatar.

Yes, and was he saving the world then? No. Because was a frelling infant. Thus, there's always going to be a peroid where there is no avatar to save the world's collective butt.

ddqfpluskick

05-30-2006, 06:15 PM

Where was this "Spirit of the world" thing brought up?

Yes, I'm aware it's not a generational thing. That doesn't mean that someone else wasn't intended to be the Avatar at the current point in time other than Aang. I'm also not saying it's the case, just an intresting idea.

And by "Avatarless" peroid I was, infact, referring to the peroid between one Avatar's death, and the time at which the next reincarnation has acheived mastery of all the elements.

What do you think Avatar means?!!!

Basically an Avatar is a supreme being entering into mortal form to solve great perils and defeat evil. SInce the avatar bends all the elements of the world and has a connection to the spirit world would the avatar not be a supreme being of the world in mortal form.

Since the avatar is reincarnated no one can be a canidate. The avatar is as the avatar is there are no subs.

yeoman

05-30-2006, 06:36 PM

What do you think Avatar means?!!!

Basically an Avatar is a supreme being entering into mortal form to solve great perils and defeat evil. SInce the avatar bends all the elements of the world and has a connection to the spirit world would the avatar not be a supreme being of the world in mortal form.

I know exactly what the word means. I also know that titles do not necessarily entirely reflect what is. Or is Apocolypse actually the end of the world?

I want to know where, exactly, this was stated. Otherwise it's just a theory. Kinda like the one of mine ya'll have spent several pages bilittling.

Since the avatar is reincarnated no one can be a canidate. The avatar is as the avatar is there are no subs.

The knowledge is reincarneted, yes. The spirit is reborn. But does it need a body that allows it to do these things? That's what my theory asks. And I'm not saying it's true. I'm not saying it's even necessarily likely. It's just an intresting theory.

It's nice to know though that when someone comes up with a thoery people just start shooting it down with stuff they can't even substantiate.

Where is it said a new avatar emerges every 100 years, and only at that point. Where is it stated that the Avatar is, in fact, the spirit of the world.

Actually, don't bother answering them. I've had my fill of this thread. I think I'll go back to enjoying a fun show, and just ignore it's fan base.

Far From Realmer

05-30-2006, 07:25 PM

Actually, don't bother answering them. I've had my fill of this thread. I think I'll go back to enjoying a fun show, and just ignore it's fan base.
WOW, this is the first time i have seen you be such a whiner. But seriously, Azula was stated to be as good as her Grandfather at her younger age, so unless you think he's a proto-avatar too, i fail to see how her natural talent is anything more than just that.

yeoman

05-30-2006, 07:59 PM

WOW, this is the first time i have seen you be such a whiner.

It's whining to expect people to back up their claims instead of just repeating them and hoping that if they say it often enough I'll just believe them?

Doesn't fly with The Yeo.

I could be wrong. I'm always willing to admit I am. But when I don't recall anything like what the other guy is saying, and he can't provide me with proof, or even a vague idea of when it occured during the show or who said it, I'm not going to assume he's right.

I put up with enough of that crap on Rumbles, I sure as heck don't need it on a thread about a show I enjoy.

But seriously, Azula was stated to be as good as her Grandfather at her younger age, so unless you think he's a proto-avatar too, i fail to see how her natural talent is anything more than just that.

I'm not talking about her skill. I'm talking about her blue fire. Something that no other fire bender has displayed and which, going by character statements, is not normal.

Far From Realmer

05-30-2006, 08:14 PM

It's whining to expect people to back up their claims instead of just repeating them and hoping that if they say it often enough I'll just believe them?
No, but when you post this.
It's nice to know though that when someone comes up with a thoery people just start shooting it down with stuff they can't even substantiate.

Actually, don't bother answering them. I've had my fill of this thread. I think I'll go back to enjoying a fun show, and just ignore it's fan base.
It is

I'm not talking about her skill. I'm talking about her blue fire. Something that no other fire bender has displayed and which, going by character statements, is not normal.
Which is likely just a combination of Lightning and fire. And the fact that unlike most firebenders she took the time to master lightning. Just because she discovered a new technique doesn't make her avatar material. Nonavatars are allowed to discover new things too.

I don't have a big mechanical reason for not liking your theory other than you seem to be making very large assumptions about the avatar cycle. Assumptions that not only don't make sense(what happened to the water AND earth avatar?) but cheapen the avatar.

yeoman

05-30-2006, 08:45 PM

No, but when you post this.

It is

No, that's called being fed up by fustration at double standards.

Which is likely just a combination of Lightning and fire. And the fact that unlike most firebenders she took the time to master lightning. Just because she discovered a new technique doesn't make her avatar material. Nonavatars are allowed to discover new things too.

And is seen as odd enough by the cast that it caused me to wonder if their might be another reason for it. Beyond just taking it as face value as advanced fire bending.

I don't have a big mechanical reason for not liking your theory other than you seem to be making very large assumptions about the avatar cycle.

Which is why it's called a theory. If I thought it was more than a neat idea I'd have provided evidence.

Assumptions that not only don't make sense(what happened to the water AND earth avatar?)

Which I GORRAM POINTED OUT INNITIALLY! That a hundred years seemed to short a time for there to have also suppsoed to have been a water and Earth tribe avatar.

but cheapen the avatar.

By saying that s/he is important enough that with the Avatar missing the world might have tried to correct itself in his/her absence?

yeoman

05-30-2006, 08:52 PM

Oh, and I'll apologize for whatever part of the derailment o fthe thread is mine. You may return to your regularly scheduled deiscussion.

Far From Realmer

05-30-2006, 09:12 PM

By saying that s/he is important enough that with the Avatar missing the world might have tried to correct itself in his/her absence?
No, by saying that the avatar cycle is any less than a cycle based on the individual. It isn't a force of nature that regardless of who lives or dies it keeps going. It is very much depended on the individual avatars. Who each have the power to end the cycle if they choose. It isn't a cycle that skips a avatar for the sake of the many. It is a cycle that values the power of one person to change the world. Not the "you are an ant in a hill and thus both expenable and meaningless" type cycle.

ddqfpluskick

05-30-2006, 09:48 PM

I know exactly what the word means. I also know that titles do not necessarily entirely reflect what is. Or is Apocolypse actually the end of the world?

I want to know where, exactly, this was stated. Otherwise it's just a theory. Kinda like the one of mine ya'll have spent several pages bilittling.

The knowledge is reincarneted, yes. The spirit is reborn. But does it need a body that allows it to do these things? That's what my theory asks. And I'm not saying it's true. I'm not saying it's even necessarily likely. It's just an intresting theory.

It's nice to know though that when someone comes up with a thoery people just start shooting it down with stuff they can't even substantiate.

Where is it said a new avatar emerges every 100 years, and only at that point. Where is it stated that the Avatar is, in fact, the spirit of the world.

Actually, don't bother answering them. I've had my fill of this thread. I think I'll go back to enjoying a fun show, and just ignore it's fan base.

Yes, Apocolypse isn't the end of the world. Apocolypse is hidden knowledge bestowed unto humans by God about future events. Since revelations is the biggest example we associated Apocolypse with the end of the world.

Yes, mines a theroy, but it's backed up by evidence.

In your theory you stating any powerful bender can be an avatar. Yes, Aang has huge talent, but it never discussed if Avatars have to be talented. Plus the blue fire. It's just very advance techniques. Take Bummi he can bend without the use of his hands so does that make him an avatar canidate. Your theory only evidence is Azula can bend blue fire. It holds up until you find someone who can also bend blue fire. I'm not saying Azula isn't powerful, but power does not always mean your an avatar. Looking at characters like Rokku, Aang, and Kyoshi there is more to them than the raw power they weild. They all carry honorable characteristics that make them more than just power houses.

SAMAS

05-31-2006, 10:30 AM

Again, I ask where this was ever stated.

In Episode 3: The Southern Air Temple.

Yes, and was he saving the world then? No. Because was a frelling infant. Thus, there's always going to be a peroid where there is no avatar to save the world's collective butt.

You mean like the hundred years when Aang was suck in an iceberg?

Or how about whatever time had passed between Avatar Roku's death and Aang finding out that he was the next Avatar?

yeoman

05-31-2006, 11:57 AM

In Episode 3: The Southern Air Temple.

Thank you. All I wanted was a reference so that I can check it out.

Young Avenger

05-31-2006, 06:54 PM

Far From Realmer

05-31-2006, 07:49 PM

not something your born with
Accually bending is a inborn talent. The real question is if two different benders had a child(and the child could bend) would said child be able to bend both of it's parents elements.

Z-man

05-31-2006, 11:52 PM

I wonder why the Avatar is the only one who can master more than one bending art. From what I seen from the show, bending is taught not something your born with. What is preverting someone as talented as Azula to learn Earth or Water bending? Has it ever been addressed?

The ability to bend certain elements is something people are born with, but the technique is something that must be taught.

SAMAS

06-01-2006, 07:57 AM

Well, it's a little genetic, and a little spiritual.

Like how in The Fortuneteller, you had a pair of identical twins, but only one of them was an Earthbender.

SAMAS

06-02-2006, 05:03 PM

He's ALIVE!!!! :D

Iroh is alive!

CDB

06-02-2006, 06:09 PM

He's ALIVE!!!! :D

Iroh is alive!

And dancing :D .....Loved what he told Zuko about Azula. :D

Young Avenger

06-02-2006, 07:03 PM

Another great episode. Zuko is quickly becoming my favorite character on the show. I didn't think much of Zuko when he firsted appeared on the show. The guy was fairly generic when in the first few episodes of Season one. Towards the end of one and starting in Season two the guy has really developed. I enjoyed the Zuko training segments with Iroh (I'm glad hes alive!!). Screw Aang, I want the show to focus on Zuko!

Legato

06-02-2006, 07:20 PM

It's funny how Aang is the main character but yet Zuko is getting the better development out of the two. At first he was some two-dimensional villain but he evolved more by each episode.

I dont like that Toph chick. She was decent during her debute but now she has become irritating the minute she joined Aang and the gang, I was hoping that when Aang got his staff back he would knock Toph upside the head with it.

Someone from Avatar should knock her off of whatever high horse she is on.

Young Avenger

06-02-2006, 08:00 PM

I dont like that Toph chick. She was decent during her debute but now she has become irritating the minute she joined Aang and the gang, I was hoping that when Aang got his staff back he would knock Toph upside the head with it.

Someone from Avatar should knock her off of whatever high horse she is on.

NOOOOOO!!! I like Toph! I like her "I take no shit" attitude. She brings a much needed foil to the group.

yeoman

06-02-2006, 10:21 PM

Okay, so now we know for sure that lightning is just a very high end firebender stunt. Nothing overly special.

Also, is it just me, or is Zuko starting to really lose it?

lonewolf23k

06-03-2006, 08:47 AM

Okay, so now we know for sure that lightning is just a very high end firebender stunt. Nothing overly special.

Also, is it just me, or is Zuko starting to really lose it?

Well, Zuko's definetly going through a hard period right now.. But then, the hardest steels are tempered in the hottest fires.

yeoman

06-04-2006, 11:49 PM

Well, Zuko's definetly going through a hard period right now.. But then, the hardest steels are tempered in the hottest fires.

It's still gonna be intresting to see where he ends up by series end. I'm think not dead before that, he's getting too much character development. And I'm not seeing him as Aang's ally, unless something happens to truely teach him humility.

I'm still thinking either Zuko or Azula will end up being the firelord Aang has to defeat rather than their father.

AllisterH

06-05-2006, 02:33 PM

Personally, I want Iroh to kick Ozai's ass.

You know, I wonder if Iroh ever feels guilty because he MUST know that there was something screwy with the death of his father.

Their father was pretty explicit in wanting Iroh to be the new Firelord and I doubt that was the first indication of it that we saw in Zuko's recent solo episode.

So why the hell didn't Iroh challenge Ozai?

shades of eternity

06-05-2006, 03:01 PM

The same reason why Iroh retired from active battle

Family means a lot to him, and he's willing to subside his own interests for the interests of his familiy

and am I the only person whose getting a vibe from the tv show pretender from avatar?

Young Avenger

06-06-2006, 06:51 PM

The ability to bend certain elements is something people are born with, but the technique is something that must be taught.

I dispute this. I know that the Water Tribe learned how to bend water by watching how the Moon push and pull the tides of the water and they eventually learned how to be it themselves. Air Nomads learned to Airbend by watching the flying Bisons and Earthbenders learn to Earthbend by watching those giant moles. I doubt that people were born with the ability to bend a certain element.

Hiffic

06-06-2006, 07:14 PM

I dispute this. I know that the Water Tribe ...

I like that argument. But maybe he means that some people are born with the ability to bend elements but cannot do so until they learn the techniques/mindset. This would mean that the first benders were born with the ability to bend, but weren't able to actually bend til they created techniques based off nature. It's kind of like how some martial arts styles are "based" on the movements of certain animals.

SAMAS

06-06-2006, 08:08 PM

Right. Because the show shows us that while you are either born a bender or not, it's not a matter of genetics. Only one of a pair of twins can be a bender(the twins in the fortuneteller episode), or of course, one sibling and not another(Katara and Sokka).

Young Avenger

06-06-2006, 08:59 PM

shades of eternity

06-06-2006, 09:02 PM

does that mean, even in his advanced age, he could still water bend if taught and motivated?

Young Avenger

06-06-2006, 09:43 PM

I would think so. If Katara was capable to learn how to water bend at her age (A year younger than Sokka) then I'm sure Sokka could learn if he wanted.

ddqfpluskick

06-06-2006, 10:26 PM

I kind of think of bending much in the same way I do about the force.

With Bending there are several level similar to the force.

From episode 1-19 characters like Katara were the equivilent of force sensative. The had raw talent and the ability to bend, but without no instruction they could do very little. Katara only knew a few moves until she found the scroll and even she could not fully master it.

Benders who've had training are much like the Jedi knights. They are greatyl skilled btu require more training.

Master Benders = Jedi masters.

Also there are splinter group who have grasped bending but are much more different than the main groups. The water benders of the swamp are an example of this.

Up until episode one no one could explain why people were born with Force sensativity and others weren't. Much like Bending it is a mix of spiritualism and logical techniques. The act of bending revolves around using unseen energy in controled and refined techniques.

Ugoff

06-06-2006, 11:24 PM

I really love this show. Each episode is so great! I like Toph, I think she adds a little something to the show. But I like all the characters. The character development of ZuZu (lol) is great and I also feel they have been developing Aang's character. I really want a baby moose lion cub! I wish they would have shown previews for the next epi though. That's the thing that pisses me off about NICK, the sometimes dont show previews for the next ep and they dont air Avatar enough(sometimes not at all).

AllisterH

06-07-2006, 07:01 AM

It's different in Sokka's case. He chooses not to be a bender. He views bending as some sort of evil magic.

Um, I thought Sokka couldn't bend. What episode does it mention that Sokka actually could bend if he wanted to?

Young Hotaru

06-07-2006, 03:56 PM

Young Avenger

06-07-2006, 09:54 PM

Um, I thought Sokka couldn't bend. What episode does it mention that Sokka actually could bend if he wanted to?

It was in one of the early episodes if I'm not mistaken. Sokka said he prefer the ways of the warrior over bending.

erzan

06-08-2006, 01:38 AM

I disagree.Katara was born being able to bend.It is just that she didnt have the proper teaching.Sokka just cant bend because he is not able to.

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I've watched every single episode of the Avatar, some twice and never has Sokka shown any signs of being able to bend.

The first benders of each nation learned to bend their elements from nature, for example Water tribe learned from the moon and sea relationship, Earth Kingdom from the moles and Air nomads from the flying bisons.

While bending may run in the family, so far we have no proof that two bending parents will have a child who can bend too. In one episode there was twins and twins are identical in genetic make up, yet one could earth bend and the other cannot.

Sokka does not water bend because he cannot, not becuse he views it as evil magic. In the first episode we got a hint that he viewed bending as silly nonsense, his remarks to his sister showed that, however as time has progressed he has shown much respect, awe and enjoyment in seeing bending.

For example look at his behaviour when he was watching the Earth bending tournament, he was so excited. Look at when Aang used master level air bending to cool down the lava, Sokka sad ''wow... somtimes i forget what a powerful bender that kid is''

Zeta

06-08-2006, 10:26 AM

I dispute this. I know that the Water Tribe learned how to bend water by watching how the Moon push and pull the tides of the water and they eventually learned how to be it themselves. Air Nomads learned to Airbend by watching the flying Bisons and Earthbenders learn to Earthbend by watching those giant moles. I doubt that people were born with the ability to bend a certain element.

The first benders of each nation learned to bend their elements from nature, for example Water tribe learned from the moon and sea relationship, Earth Kingdom from the moles and Air nomads from the flying bisons.

Those explanations really sound like "Just So" creation myths, and not actual history - in the same way the Cherokee believe that the first woman only gave birth after being struck with a fish.

In one episode there was twins and twins are identical in genetic make up, yet one could earth bend and the other cannot.

They could've been fraternal twins

SAMAS

06-08-2006, 06:24 PM

Maybe, but that still rules out the blood relationship thing. Not every member of a bloodline is a bender.

Young Avenger

06-09-2006, 07:06 AM

From the last couple of replies I think we can all assume that bending is a talent not an ability. That would explain why Katara is able to bend without instruction.

yeoman

06-09-2006, 04:15 PM

Maybe, but that still rules out the blood relationship thing. Not every member of a bloodline is a bender.

Unless it's a recessive trait. I mean, we've seen whol families where almost every member is a member.

Zuko's family. His mother and cousin are the only ones we don't know for sure were. But of those one has virtually no screen time and the other is only mentioned in the past tense.

Zeta

06-09-2006, 08:55 PM

Maybe, but that still rules out the blood relationship thing. Not every member of a bloodline is a bender.

And Petunia and Dudley Dursely aren't witches. It's the same thing. It's genetic, but not for certain that all descendants of a Bender will be Benders.

Z-man

06-09-2006, 10:03 PM

It's different in Sokka's case. He chooses not to be a bender. He views bending as some sort of evil magic.

It has never been established anywhere that Sokka could bend but chose not to. Anywhere.

He called it freaky magic in the first episode in order to tease Katara. As has been pointed out before, he doesn't show any dislike towards benders whatsoever, hardly even jealousy.

And if he viewed it as evil magic, you can be sure he would stop his sister from doing it. We have seen that he is fiercely loyal to his sister, so far as to practically attack Aang when he burned her. He would certainly protect his sister while growing up so far as to keep her from evil magic.

The Force explanation fits most within the framework defined on the show.

AllisterH

06-10-2006, 09:15 AM

They could've been fraternal twins

Nah, they were obviously identical twins from the visuals.

Citizen V

06-10-2006, 06:11 PM

I saw The Blind Bandit episode today,the whole Earthbending Tournament.Fantastic episode,so good that i taped it.

Z-man

06-11-2006, 09:23 AM

Nah, they were obviously identical twins from the visuals.

You never really can tell conclusively.

SAMAS

06-11-2006, 12:38 PM

That's true. I had twin cousins I didn't know were fraternal until they graduated from high school. The look almost completely alike, except that one has now grown to be taller than the other.

Gezora

06-15-2006, 11:16 PM

Far From Realmer

06-15-2006, 11:35 PM

Gezora

06-16-2006, 10:36 PM

Well, I'm sorry, but people calling anime-ESQUE shows Anime is a button of mine. Not that funny-looking button I like to manipulate from time to time; the annoying one.

Shows like Code: Lyoko, Teen Titans, Totally Spies, and Avatar are all excellent shows (no, wait... Totally Spies is to suck. Hell, everything from Marathon is awful), but they cannot be called Anime.

Please don't gas me...

Cowlander

06-17-2006, 05:14 PM

Umm...

Don't know if anyone's already covered this, but...

Avatar: The Last Airbender is NOT an anime...

Damn good show. But not anime.

American idea, animated in Korea. Not anime.

Just sayin'...
technically isnt most animation farmed out to Korea for inbetweening now adays? With its themes and style its definitely close enough so if someone says that, I cant see how anyone could fault them or be upset with them.

Gezora

06-18-2006, 12:46 AM

I'm not upset at anyone in particular, just the concept that shows that are similiar to anime are generalized to the medium. It's just damned annoying.

Forgive my Otakuness.

SAMAS

06-18-2006, 08:28 AM

Gezora

06-18-2006, 04:52 PM

They're not generalized.

Just made honorary members.

In short, if you enter an anime discussion, and mention them, people are unlikely to get mad, because they share many of the features we like in the best anime series as well.
I like the spin you put on that. Very positive, flattering even. Imitation is the best form, as they say.

Perhaps I'm being a bit too militant. I'll be quiet now. Please, continue to discuss your Kataras and flying bisons. I'll just sit here, watching.

Waiting.

Melchior

06-18-2006, 05:57 PM

I've always used this theory: If its a good animated show, no one should really mind. Quality deserves respect, irregardless of origin.

CDB

06-18-2006, 08:33 PM

.

Shows like Code: Lyoko, Teen Titans, Totally Spies, and Avatar are all excellent shows (no, wait... Totally Spies is to suck. Hell, everything from Marathon is awful)

You just used Teen Titians, Code Lyoko and excellent shows in the same sentence. :(

Legato

06-18-2006, 10:30 PM

You just used Teen Titians, Code Lyoko and excellent shows in the same sentence. :(

Id rank Teen Titans under Guily Pleasure shows that you would watch when you are bored list.

Gezora

06-20-2006, 10:41 PM

You just used Teen Titians, Code Lyoko and excellent shows in the same sentence. :(
I know most peolpe don't like it because it barely follows anything in the comics accurately, but as an AU, the Teen Titans show is fairly decent.

As for Code: Lyoko, the only things wrong with that show are the horrible American dub and writing, and the fact that it's French. No one likes the French.

Not that I'm trying to validate my statement or anything...