Avatar the last Air Bender

[Bakasama]

This just leaves the BIG QUESTION. Who will finally be the one to teach Aang fire bending? Will it be Uncle Iroh, Zuko, or........ Zuko's mother, Ursa (who's now quite possibly alive)

I think the end of Day of Black Sun spelled that part out. It can't be Iroh because it looks like he's going to be this show's Aragorn (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheAragorn).

[nervmeister]

I think the end of Day of Black Sun spelled that part out. It can't be Iroh because it looks like he's going to be this show's Aragorn (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheAragorn).
Let's just hope he doesnt pull a Boromir and die on us.

[CDB]

she's the Goddamn Azula at this point.

I'm a big enough man to admit that cappa was essentially correct about Azula's relative standing and ability level in the Avatarverse. She is one bad mofo.

Which will make it all the sweeter when Zuko finally beats her, which I'm basically convinced he will. Aang gets Ozai, and of the remaining protagonists Zuko has by far the most intense personal rivalry with Azula. Drama-wise it simply offers the biggest payoff, symbolically, thematically, in terms of character and in terms of plot.

I've called her SuperBI#@h Prime as play off of Superboy Prime, but the Goddamn Azula!! works.:D

[Young Avenger]

It's official. Azula now has telepathy

She has no telepathy. He knew about the invasion when she pretended to be a Kyoshi Warrior at the end of season 2. She cheated!

[nervmeister]

She has no telepathy. He knew about the invasion when she pretended to be a Kyoshi Warrior at the end of season 2. She cheated!That I understand, but how did she know that Sokka and Suki were in a relationship?

[lonewolf23k]

That I understand, but how did she know that Sokka and Suki were in a relationship?

Obviously, she told the truth there.. Suki did mention Sokka while Azula had her imprisonned/tortured.. :(

[Len Ikari145]

That I understand, but how did she know that Sokka and Suki were in a relationship?

Through torture, naturally.

[Wild Card13]

To be honest, I strongly doubt the veracity of the spoilers on the last page. In particular, the idea that the White Lotus' goal is to put Iroh in power doesn't ring true with me, since all references concerning the Lotus before have to do with knowledge and wisdom rather than power. That said, I could see Jeong Jeong and Ursa being part of it. Aunt Wu would be cool, too, but when they met in that one episode, Iroh didn't recognize her.

Nice story, but I don't think it's true.

[Len Ikari145]

To be honest, I strongly doubt the veracity of the spoilers on the last page. In particular, the idea that the White Lotus' goal is to put Iroh in power doesn't ring true with me, since all references concerning the Lotus before have to do with knowledge and wisdom rather than power. That said, I could see Jeong Jeong and Ursa being part of it. Aunt Wu would be cool, too, but when they met in that one episode, Iroh didn't recognize her.

Nice story, but I don't think it's true.

You aren't the only one on the thread to think so. The spoiler sounds highly dubious.

[nervmeister]

Obviously, she told the truth there.. Suki did mention Sokka while Azula had her imprisonned/tortured.. :(

Through torture, naturally.Okay. Now I'm REALLY eager to see that bitch die. Oh but not quickly and painlessly. Oh no. As Marv put it best, I want her to get "the long goodbye". (cracks knuckles)

[Ragnorok64]

Obviously, she told the truth there.. Suki did mention Sokka while Azula had her imprisonned/tortured.. :(

Also when Ty Lee dress as a Kyoshi Warrior came on to Sokka he said, "I"m kinda involved with Suki right now."

Azula only has to find out which one of the naked captives they stole clothes off is Suki and work from there.

[CDB]

Obviously, she told the truth there.. Suki did mention Sokka while Azula had her imprisonned/tortured.. :(

Maaan, I don't even want to know what type of torture or intergation tactics Azula used on Suki.

Heck, I hope she had some compasion to clothe the girl...:(

[nervmeister]

Heck, I hope she had some compasion to clothe the girl...:(Dont bet on it.

[CDB]

Dont bet on it.

Yeah. :(

Poor Suki, half naked and locked up in a Fire Nation cell at the mercy at psychopathic hefier!!!

If this was one of the dubious Japanese based Hentai themed animes...well say hello to Suzla!!!

[nervmeister]

Yeah. :(

Poor Suki, half naked and locked up in a Fire Nation cell at the mercy at psychopathic hefier!!!

"psychopathic heifer" doesnt even come close to describing just how despicable that horrid shit-spewing swine of a whore really is. The episode where I finally see her killed or even humiliated will automatically make #1 in my top ten list of Avatar episodes. And that's no joke.

[Melchior]

Please, it would be simple to interrogate Suki.

Azula: Please look at these seven pictures. The first is my friend Ty Lee. The rest are her older sisters. Ty Lee thinks your Sokka is 'really cute'. Tell me what I want to know, or I'll make sure he gets plenty of 'quality time' with Ty Lee.

[CDB]

"psychopathic heifer" doesnt even come close to describing just how despicable that horrid shit-spewing swine of a whore really is. The episode where I finally see her killed or even humiliated will automatically make #1 in my top ten list of Avatar episodes. And that's no joke.

Dayum!!! The flames of Azula heel heat burns hotter than her firebending.

Please, it would be simple to interrogate Suki.

Azula: Please look at these seven pictures. The first is my friend Ty Lee. The rest are her older sisters. Ty Lee thinks your Sokka is 'really cute'. Tell me what I want to know, or I'll make sure he gets plenty of 'quality time' with Ty Lee.

Hahahahaha. That'll do it. :D

[Len Ikari145]

"psychopathic heifer" doesnt even come close to describing just how despicable that horrid shit-spewing swine of a whore really is. The episode where I finally see her killed or even humiliated will automatically make #1 in my top ten list of Avatar episodes. And that's no joke.

It's almost a shame that cappa is no longer here to read that.

Almost.

[AllisterH]

I keep saying though, Champion Sozula!!!!

Can you guys imagine the brainpower of Sokka and Azula's kids?

It could lead the Avatar world to a golden age!!!

As an aside, have we ever seen a marriage between two people of different cultures in the Avatar World?

Both Roku and the previous Water-Avatar chose a bride from among their own nation so that gives no clue and I don't remember seeing/hearing about a "mixed" marriage.

[heystacy]

"psychopathic heifer" doesnt even come close to describing just how despicable that horrid shit-spewing swine of a whore really is. The episode where I finally see her killed or even humiliated will automatically make #1 in my top ten list of Avatar episodes. And that's no joke.

Tell us how you really feel. ;)

[nervmeister]

Tell us how you really feel. ;)I feel like that bitch needs to die.

[heystacy]

I feel like that bitch needs to die.

Azula brings some spice to the show. LOL Don't let that hate consume you.

[nervmeister]

Azula brings some spice to the show. LOL Don't let that hate consume you.Sorry. I tend to get a little too "immersed" in works of fiction. Sometimes, I question my grip on reality because of it.

[heystacy]

Sorry. I tend to get a little too "immersed" in works of fiction. Sometimes, I question my grip on reality because of it.

Don't worry. Simply step back, take a breath, and enjoy the show.

[Bakasama]

"psychopathic heifer" doesnt even come close to describing just how despicable that horrid shit-spewing swine of a whore really is. The episode where I finally see her killed or even humiliated will automatically make #1 in my top ten list of Avatar episodes. And that's no joke.

I think THIS (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/013/136.jpg) from the episode you want to see so badly.

[Young Avenger]

Sorry. I tend to get a little too "immersed" in works of fiction. Sometimes, I question my grip on reality because of it.

*Looks at his avatar*

I'm scared. :(

[nervmeister]

I think THIS (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/013/136.jpg) from the episode you want to see so badly.Aww god! Her face looks like a MAN!

[lonewolf23k]

Just saw "The Western Air Temple" on YTV. That spoiler plot synopsis was WAAAAYYY off.

[Bakasama]

Yeah, I figured that could have been a fake but it's an interesting read. If nothing else, the Avatar fandom has taught me not to believe everything that claims to be spoilers.

It's just crazy that other countries tend to show premier episodes before we get them.

[Young Avenger]

Just saw "The Western Air Temple" on YTV. That spoiler plot synopsis was WAAAAYYY off.

Time to hit the torrent sites.

[lonewolf23k]

Shall I write up a quick spoiler for the episode?

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Shall I write up a quick spoiler for the episode?

Sure.


Also, is it on Youtube or anything? Whouldn't mind a PM'ed link..........

[FroFroYo]

It isnt up http://www.avatarchapter.com/ <-- there yet, but it should be up pretty soon. =D

Can't wait.

[literally exaggerated]

If anyone finds it online, PM me please. I will be eternally grateful.

[lonewolf23k]

Okay, here's my best attempt at an episode recap...

We catch up with our heroes walking on the ground, due to Appa's fatigue at carrying so many people at once, when finally they reach a massive canyon, which hides the Western Air Temple, which is actually carved into the side of the canyon. As it turns out, Zuko has already arrived there, and after a flashback to his first visit to the temple at the start of his Avatar Hunt, goes into hiding from the heroes when they arrive. Teo, Haru and The Duke split off to explore the temple, and Katara keeps Aang from joining them so the rest of Team Avatar can plot out their new strategy. They end up realizing they have to go with the original plan: Master all Four Elements before the Comet arrives. Question is, where to find a Firebending Master?

Cut to Zuko, who's rehearsing his "Hi, I'm good now!" introduction, in a very cute and funny scene where he wonders what Uncle Iroh would've advised, and realizes he doesn't understand his own Iroh-made advice. He then wonders what Azula would say, and finally says he's no good at impersonations.

Back at the temple, Team Avatar is still considering their options when Zuko finally surprises them by showing up, and pathetically tries to convince them he's Good now, dealing with their anger at his past crimes by honestly apologizing for them... ...Including hiring the Combustion Man, which only gets him deeper in dutch with the heroes, especially Katara, who's REALLY pissed at him. About the only one willing to give him a chance is Appa, for obvious reasons, and Toph, who doesn't really have a grudge against the guy When trying to convince them he's changed and is willing to teach Aang Firebending fails, he tries to convince him to take him prisonner. They refuse, and just tell him to leave. Which he does, going off to sulk and go "Why did I tell them I hired the assassin!? I should've said Azula did that! They'd have believed it!"

(As a sidenote, I'm liking this new Zuko.. Without Fire Nation pressure on him, he's slowly gaining Hero-level Zaniness. ;) )

Later on, after our heroes talk about Zuko and how much of an untrustworthy snake he is, Toph decides to go talk to Zuko herself. Unfortunetly, approaching the exiled fire prince in his sleep ends up spooking him. In a panic, he lashes out and accidentally burns her feet, causing Toph to retreat in a (litterally) blind panic, no longer able to see. She retreats back to the temple, leaving Zuko behind to curse his misfortune.

Toph makes it back to the Temple, where the others are shocked but not unsurprised to see she got burned trying to talk to Zuko, and decide it's in their best interests to capture Zuko themselves. They decide that, since Zuko offered himself up for capture, they should invite him to come and be their captive, and -then- surprise and really capture him. ...In short, a typical Sokka plan.

...Unfortunetly, as they prepare to execute their plan, everyone's favorite laconic assassin, Combustion Man, comes across the Temple and, using his powers to create a lense of hot air, spies on them from afar, before locating Aang. Before he can successfully get a sniper shot on him, however, Zuko swings in and messes the shot, although the explosion alerts our heroes. Zuko then tries to convince the Combustion Man to stop, but he just ignores him and keeps firing, before fending off Zuko's attacks by knocking him nearly into the canyon itself, although Zuko manages to hold on to a stray root.

As Combustion Man resumes firing at the heroes, they manage to get into a hiding spot, though Katara deplores not being able to get a good angle of attack at him. Which gives Sokka a brilliant idea. Using the trajectory of CM's attacks, he manages to pinpoint his location from his hiding spot, then throws his Boomerang and manages to hit CM square in the head. While this doesn't actually take CM out (much to Sokka's consternation), it does mess him up enough that his next attempt at attacking backfires, and blows HIM up instead!

Later on, as our heroes are picking up the pieces, Zuko approaches again. Once again, he offers an apology for his actions and asks for the chance to be Aang's firebending teacher, explaining to Toph and the others that he's been hurting the people he cares for all his life, and has to learn to control himself better. Hearing this makes Aang realize Zuko -is- the right Firebending Master for him; Since his first attempts at learning Firebending hurt Katara by accident, Aang feels that only someone who understands such concerns could be a good teacher. He does ask the others for their approval, however. Toph's agreeable to the idea, Sokka finds the logic in it, and while Katara's not warm to the idea, she agrees with whatever Aang's got in mind.

And thus, Zuko joins Team Avatar, and after a slightly awkward "here's your room, enjoy your stay" moment with Sokka, Zuko starts to unpack his stuff, only to have Katara deliver the "You're on thin ice, so I'm watching you, and the moment you turn on us I'll finish you off myself" speech, then leaves Zuko to himself, and our prince reflects back on the flashback from earlier, where Iroh tries to comfort Zuko with the thought "Sometimes, Destiny is what you make of it."

...And that's my attempt at recapping "The Western Air Temple."

[FroFroYo]

Katara heals Toph's feet, right?
If not, I will never like Zuko, ever.

D:

[Young Avenger]

I would also like to be PM'd the episode if it's online.

[lonewolf23k]

Katara heals Toph's feet, right?
If not, I will never like Zuko, ever.

D:

Oh yes, she does, thankfully. Sorry, should've mentionned that. Heck, even Toph shrugs it off later on, accepting Zuko's apology.

[Young Avenger]

Zuko burning Toph's feet is not cool. It's a good thing that it was accidental or else I would have never forgiven Zuko.

I was expecting for Zuko to say Combustion Man actual name. Disappointed that he didn't. I heard a rumor about him being Aang's old friend Kuzon or having a connection with him somehow. Hope there is some truth to that.

Katara/Zuko confrontion was great. She really knows how to lay down the law. Killing the slightly possilibly of Zutara is an added bonus :D

[Nik Hasta]

Katara is scary.

Good episode though.

Boomerang action FTW!

[Len Ikari145]

Zuko burning Toph's feet is not cool. It's a good thing that it was accidental or else I would have never forgiven Zuko.

I was expecting for Zuko to say Combustion Man actual name. Disappointed that he didn't. I heard a rumor about him being Aang's old friend Kuzon or having a connection with him somehow. Hope there is some truth to that.

Katara/Zuko confrontion was great. She really knows how to lay down the law. Killing the slightly possilibly of Zutara is an added bonus :D

YEEEESSSSSS!!!!:D It's finally over!

[Dark Soul # 7]

YEEEESSSSSS!!!!:D It's finally over!Oh, I seriously doubt that. The Zutara fans can go and call the anger Katara has for Zuko sexual tension/frustration.

This episode was greatness with a sideorder of hilariousness.

Zuko's talks with the frog-creatures and his impersonations are some of the funniest things I've seen in awhile.

Toph being the sensible one fit well and her reaction to being completely blinded was handled well. Also, she now has a new punching bag in the form of Zuko.:evilsmile

It was nice to see Sokka get to shine in the action. But I will miss Combustion Man.

Can't wait for future episodes. Zuko's social inadiquacies and eagerness to prove himself will play of greatly against the rest of the Gaang.

Oh, and does anybody else think that there will be at least one episode that focuses on Haru, The Duke and wheelchair kid (can't remember his name)?

[literally exaggerated]

Awesome, awesome episode. The show does a great job of using humor to humanize its characters without breaking character. Zuko was hysterical with his impersonations- his Iroh was spot on.

Sokka is awesome! He is totally the Batman of the show. Using blasts to triangulate angles, then flinging his boomerang directly into the weakpoint of his opponent.

I'm interested to see how the Duke, Haru, etc. will fit in over time. This episode they contrived to have them totally out of the way when the action starts, but they can't do that too much without it getting contrived.

I also like the dynamic being set up with Zuko:

Aang has accepted him, because thats the way Aang is, and also because Appa likes him.

Toph is wary but openminded, but will also use him as a punching bag.

Sokka really doesn't like him, but is willing to be pragmatic and use him as a tool.

Katara outright hates him and doesn't trust him at all.

meanwhile Zuko is just his try-hard, yet angsty and socially clueless self. Good times ahead.

[Gladiaria_Alata]

Momo-hat! Wee! :D

[Bakasama]

YEEEESSSSSS!!!!:D It's finally over!

Zutara fans are legendary in their fan wank. It just means the wailing and gnashing of teeth is going to pretty bad for Zutara fans when the series ends.

[shades of eternity]

zuko talking to frogs is hillarious.

I have a feeling poor Zuko is going to be a bigger danger as a friend then he ever was a enemy...and it's going to be unintentional. :D

and the Katara/Zuko relationship now requires popocorn. This is going to so rock. I expect at least one nasty bending incident between those two with poor Zuko fighting defensively with fire (an offensive element) and katara going on the offense with water (a defensive element).

Sokka is the man. Apparently he doesn't pull out his boomerang for just anybody anymore :p. Combine that with his meteorite sword and that makes him very dangerous indeed.

my gut is saying we ain't done with combustion man just yet.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Agreed.

Awesome episode.:D

[CDB]

Friggin' Canadians and YTV!!!

First Bret Hart, free health care, and now yesterday the get to see the new episode, The Western Air Temple. before us in the USA.

They get all the good stuff, and get it earlier.


The epsiode is up the usual place.


And yes...it is nothing like the faux spoilers said...although a certain somebody does get merked. :eek:

[FroFroYo]

Katara is freakin' scary hard-core. :O

[Arilou]

Great episode. Good character work.

Zuko frog-talking was funny as hell. And the dynamic turned out pretty much as I expected. I think Toph and Zuko are going to end up as great friends.

Also did anyone notice this, maybe I just have a dirty mind but...
Toph: "I went to visit Zuko last night."
Sokka: "EWWW!"

[Gladiaria_Alata]

Great episode. Good character work.

Zuko frog-talking was funny as hell. And the dynamic turned out pretty much as I expected. I think Toph and Zuko are going to end up as great friends.

Also did anyone notice this, maybe I just have a dirty mind but...
Toph: "I went to visit Zuko last night."
Sokka: "EWWW!"

Not just you I noticed as well. :D

[Young Avenger]

Also did anyone notice this, maybe I just have a dirty mind but...
Toph: "I went to visit Zuko last night."
Sokka: "EWWW!"

I noticed it too. I wouldn't object to Zuph.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I noticed it too. I wouldn't object to Zuph.

[God, I hope not. I don´t know, but Zuko comes off as so much older than her that the two of them together just feels.... icky.

Poor Aang, my Zutara alarm was ringing throughout the entire episode.

We need to create a new adjetive for Sokka, somehow "awesome" doesn´t seem to do him justice anymore... :D
.

[FroFroYo]

[God, I hope not. I don´t know, but Zuko comes off as so much older than her that the two of them together just feels.... icky.

Poor Aang, my Zutara alarm was ringing throughout the entire episode.

We need to create a new adjetive for Sokka, somehow "awesome" doesn´t seem to do him justice anymore... :D
.



God-Like Awesome?
Supah Awesome?
Holycrapdidyoujustseethatmansokkaistheman Awesome?

[CDB]

God-Like Awesome?
Supah Awesome?
Holycrapdidyoujustseethatmansokkaistheman Awesome?


Hahahahaha!!!:D

Katara is freakin' scary hard-core. :O

Heck yes, she is.
Zuko better keep his manhood protected when around her. Also, Zutara has been new life sadly.

[AllisterH]

That is why we have the term "JAW" :D

Sokka is JAW

[Len Ikari145]

Oh, I seriously doubt that. The Zutara fans can go and call the anger Katara has for Zuko sexual tension/frustration.


Zutara fans are legendary in their fan wank. It just means the wailing and gnashing of teeth is going to pretty bad for Zutara fans when the series ends.



Damn, the both of you are right. Canon Zutarians fans are geniuses within the realm of their insanity.-_-*

Oh well. *grabs a shotgun and cocks it* Guess it has to be settled the old-fashioned way.

. Also, Zutara has been new life sadly.

From what I'm gathering from spoilers, Zuph fanatics may on the rise.:eek:

[Len Ikari145]

Aw, crappies.>.<

[Ghost]

Damn, the both of you are right. Canon Zutarians fans are geniuses

Why thank you! I knew you would come around to our side sooner or later. :D

bla-bla-bla, something about insanity -_-*

Yes, it's truly insane that others do not see the greatness of Zutara! oO

Oh well. *grabs a shotgun and cocks it* Guess it has to be settled the old-fashioned way.

*draws sword* Oh, we're hurting people now? Jolly good! ^^

From what I'm gathering from spoilers, Zuph fanatics may on the rise.:eek:

Strangly, Zuph don't really appeal to me at all, despite my adoration for both Toph and Zuko. But I still think they'll make a kickass team.

(Not as kickass as Zuko and Sokka, though.)

[Wild Card13]

Just saw the episode, and I loved it. Book Three was off to a bit of a slow start, but it really hit its stride with "The Avatar and the Fire Lord" and I think it's regained that epic energy and momentum that Book Two possessed, even though I feel the networks have been treating it horribly. I'm liking Zuko's new place within the group but not quite part of the group, and I fully expect him and Katara to work out their problems before the end of the book. I also predict that he and Toph will be a lot of fun to watch together, and the fanboy in me would love to see him and Sokka have a sword fight, just for kicks. In other words, I really like that Zuko's around. "WHY AM I SO BAD AT BEING GOOD?!" really sums it up.

Now, here's the thing about Zutara. I personally subscribe to it because I feel it would make for a much more interesting couple, as well as what's less likely. And considering what Mike and Bryan have given us so far, we haven't exactly gotten the most formulaic and predictable plotline. I'm not a rabid shipper, nor do I ever aspire to be. I just think that I would enjoy a Zutarian ending more, especially since I think after all of Zuko's suffering the guy needs a break. Granted, I think he can do better than Katara (who I'm not such a huge fan of), but since she's the main romantic interest in the show, I think it'd be a nice reward. That, and maybe I'm just misreading it, I felt Katara looked particularly ambivalent after the kiss Aang gave her before the invasion.

Also, as a final note, I just wanted to say that Greg Baldwin has really done an amazing job as Iroh. This last episode, he sounded almost exactly like the late Mako. I can't wait for more Iroh goodness in the last half.

[Ghost]

Just saw the episode, and I loved it. Book Three was off to a bit of a slow start, but it really hit its stride with "The Avatar and the Fire Lord" and I think it's regained that epic energy and momentum that Book Two possessed, even though I feel the networks have been treating it horribly. I'm liking Zuko's new place within the group but not quite part of the group, and I fully expect him and Katara to work out their problems before the end of the book. I also predict that he and Toph will be a lot of fun to watch together, and the fanboy in me would love to see him and Sokka have a sword fight, just for kicks. In other words, I really like that Zuko's around. "WHY AM I SO BAD AT BEING GOOD?!" really sums it up.

Now, here's the thing about Zutara. I personally subscribe to it because I feel it would make for a much more interesting couple, as well as what's less likely. And considering what Mike and Bryan have given us so far, we haven't exactly gotten the most formulaic and predictable plotline. I'm not a rabid shipper, nor do I ever aspire to be. I just think that I would enjoy a Zutarian ending more, especially since I think after all of Zuko's suffering the guy needs a break. Granted, I think he can do better than Katara (who I'm not such a huge fan of), but since she's the main romantic interest in the show, I think it'd be a nice reward. That, and maybe I'm just misreading it, I felt Katara looked particularly ambivalent after the kiss Aang gave her before the invasion.

Now, you I like. :)

I'm not overly fond of Katara as a character myself, but I still like the pairing. Somehow they just seem to fit each other, in a dualistic way. Fire and water, you know. Plus they have similar personalities and look really good together. :D

[Dark Soul # 7]

Also, as a final note, I just wanted to say that Greg Baldwin has really done an amazing job as Iroh. This last episode, he sounded almost exactly like the late Mako. I can't wait for more Iroh goodness in the last half.Forgot to mention this. I completely agree with you.

To me Baldwin's Iroh sounded pretty much exactly like Mako's Iroh in this episode. And it was some nice classic Iroh lines that he got to deliver.

I would not mind if by the time the Gaang shows up for the final fight Iroh and the White Lotus gang have already beaten the Fire Nation.:D

[Jack]

Zuko is totally wrong. He's a great impersonator.

[Arilou]

Personally I'm not a Zutarna, but I do hope they won't go the predictable Kataraang route.

I'd like it to end with, basically, a wiser Aang realizing that the Guru was right that maybe he should go off be the Avatar for a while, and leave settling down for later.

[Ghost]

I'd like it to end with, basically, a wiser Aang realizing that the Guru was right that maybe he should go off be the Avatar for a while, and leave settling down for later.

But that would make Iroh wrong, and we both know that is impossible! :p

[lonewolf23k]

I'd like it to end with, basically, a wiser Aang realizing that the Guru was right that maybe he should go off be the Avatar for a while, and leave settling down for later.

Except Avatar Roku has proven you can balance out the duties of an Avatar with settling down and raising a family.

...And really, Balance is one of the key concepts in the Avatar world.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Except Avatar Roku has proven you can balance out the duties of an Avatar with settling down and raising a family.

...And really, Balance is one of the key concepts in the Avatar world.He could even go into the Avatar state whiles still being married.

[lonewolf23k]

He could even go into the Avatar state whiles still being married.

Exactly. I think the point of Aang's difficulties wasn't that he needs to stop caring for Katara, it's that he needs to keep his emotions under control. Back in "Crossroads of Destiny", he did manage to control his concern for Katara long enough to begin bringing the Avatar state under his control, before Azula interfered.

[Len Ikari145]

Personally I'm not a Zutarna, but I do hope they won't go the predictable Kataraang route.

I'd like it to end with, basically, a wiser Aang realizing that the Guru was right that maybe he should go off be the Avatar for a while, and leave settling down for later.

And most likely, Katara would go with him if he did decide to go off into the world on his own. And, in Escape to the Spirit World, Avatar Yangchen told him that he needs to experience companionship, love, etc.

I felt Katara looked particularly ambivalent after the kiss Aang gave her before the invasion.

She was shocked when he kissed her, then she kissed him back(and was blushing like crazy afterwards). Seems like she reciprocates his feelings to me. Plus, he still has yet to confess to her.

And while Avatar's plot isn't the most linear, I don't think they created all that buildup into their relationship for the past 51 eps just to randomly place her with Zuko later when there's only ten episodes left the series. They even tore apart the main two pro-Zutara arguments in the "The Avatar and The Firelord" and "The Headband." Consisting respectively of, "Aang can't love or he won't master the Avatar State" and "Katara doesn't see Aang that way".
Besides that, Zuko's still very much in love with Mai(and there's a high probabability that's she's going to betray Azula and join up with Zuko before the series through, as it has been hinted more than couple of times).

[literally exaggerated]

Did anyone else notice how Zuko had a slight lisp in the flashbacks? I thought it was an awesome touch, because Zuko had a slight lisp in the first couple of episodes which was then phased out. The fact that the voice actor brought it back shows that he really pays attention to the character.

On a similar note, the guy who voices Iroh now sounds scarily like Mako. At first it was like a 75% match, but now its like a 95% match. Bravo.

Also, I've been rewatching the earliest episodes, and every single character sounds much younger, especially Aang. The voice actors have done a great job of aging the characters who are supposed to be growing up.

Avatar's incredibly high production values come through with voice acting as they do in every other area.

[Arilou]

Except Avatar Roku has proven you can balance out the duties of an Avatar with settling down and raising a family.

...And really, Balance is one of the key concepts in the Avatar world.

Of course, Roku ended up dying.... :p

Point is that, for once, i'd like a story to actually folow the ascetic principles to their logical conclusion.

[Ghost]

Of course, Roku ended up dying.... :p

Point is that, for once, i'd like a story to actually folow the ascetic principles to their logical conclusion.

Yeah. I hated it when Siddharta quit being an ascet yet somehow still found enlightment and turned into Buddha!

I mean, really, what the hell? oO

:p

[Arilou]

Yeah. I hated it when Siddharta quit being an ascet yet somehow still found enlightment and turned into Buddha!

I mean, really, what the hell? oO

:p

Actually he abondoned his wife first, remember? That was the entire point.

[Rod G]

If Aang is the LAST airbender . . .


Would this mean the Avatar cycle would be limited to water,earth and fire ?


Face it,if Aang dies,airbending dies with him.

[Arilou]

If Aang is the LAST airbender . . .


Would this mean the Avatar cycle would be limited to water,earth and fire ?


Face it,if Aang dies,airbending dies with him.


Not neccessarily, they've said that bending is more a matter of a certain attitude than genetics. So it seems that new airbenders would arise eventually, unless something disrupts the circle.

[Ghost]

Actually he abondoned his wife first, remember? That was the entire point.

Bah! Bah, I say!

If Aang is the LAST airbender . . .

Would this mean the Avatar cycle would be limited to water,earth and fire ?

Face it,if Aang dies,airbending dies with him.

It's been implied that new airbenders might start showing up.

And he does have three generations before he has to reincarnate into an airbender again. If all of them live to an old age, that's quite a lot.

Though, hopefully the new Air Nomads start showing up within Aang's lifetime so he can actually train them some before passing on. Otherwise the following three Avatars are going to have some major trouble mastering all elements. ^^;

[Len Ikari145]

Of course, Roku ended up dying.... :p

Because he had a dick for a best friend.:p Otherwise, he lived a long life and happy life. Avatar Kuruk also had a wife, but Koh took her away and stole her face because he arrogantly flaunted his abilities.

Thankfully, Aang's a kind and humble former monk, and he won't have that problem with Zuko since he has Katara to water-shank him if he so much as twitches.:D

I'm looking forward to see how the Katara/Zuko interactions play out in the next episodes as well as seeing how Aang and Zuko will get along.

[Arilou]

Aang does have a problem with responsibility though. Of course it's justified: He's 12 years old! But still.

He ran away from the monks and ended up (indirectly) unable to prevent the current mess. He Never achieved that final step of the Guru's trnasofrmation and now it's closed: And he has shown a marked aversion to firebending, even though he knows he'll need it. This of course is a nice contrast to Zuko, who *never* backs down. Even when he should.

Him actually learning to do just that was pretty much the major point of most of his character development.

Bah! Bah, I say!

I actually love that story. It's hilarious and sad at the same time.

Basically Siddharta, as we all know, was a prince in Northern India. When he was young his parents picked a wife for him, and they liked each other very much.

So eventually they got married and were very happy. And on their wedding night it was one of those warm indian nights when the moon was full, and Siddharta was rich and young and he had a beautiful wife he loved.... It was the perfect moment.

Then he turned around and saw that, in her sleep, his wife was drooling. And then it hit him that even in this moment, which was as close to perfection as you could ever get, there were imperfections. And so he left it all to figure out what that was all about (which alwyas struck me as a bit of an overreaction, but hey!) and ended up coming to the conclusion that all reality is suffering and that it is our attachements that bind us to this reality and so make us suffer.

[Ghost]

I actually love that story. It's hilarious and sad at the same time.

Basically Siddharta, as we all know, was a prince in Northern India. When he was young his parents picked a wife for him, and they liked each other very much.

So eventually they got married and were very happy. And on their wedding night it was one of those warm indian nights when the moon was full, and Siddharta was rich and young and he had a beautiful wife he loved.... It was the perfect moment.

Then he turned around and saw that, in her sleep, his wife was drooling. And then it hit him that even in this moment, which was as close to perfection as you could ever get, there were imperfections. And so he left it all to figure out what that was all about (which alwyas struck me as a bit of an overreaction, but hey!) and ended up coming to the conclusion that all reality is suffering and that it is our attachements that bind us to this reality and so make us suffer.

All that, just because his wife drooled in her sleep? oO

You know, put like that, I agree with you: that would be an awesome way to deal with the whole Kataang thing. :D

Katara: Aang, I love you!

Aang: Sorry, Katara, but it would never work out between us.

Katara: What? Why not?

Aang: You're not perfect enough! In fact, I can never love any woman, because you are all flawed one way or the other. And this, in turn, means that life is nothing but suffering!

Katara: ...

[Arilou]

It comes across as kind of dickish doesen't it?

Buddhadickery.

But on a more serious note, the point is a bit less crazy than that. It's not that his wife isn't perfect: It's the fact that *nothing* is perfect. Not even the person you love more than anything else in the world...

[Jack]

Along those lines, the Japanese creation myth has the first two children of Izanagi and Izanami born horribly deformed because... wait for it... Izanami spoke first at their marriage ceremony, instead of waiting for the man to start.

[ddqfpluskick]

Episode 12......

Not as mind blowing as I thought, but still good. Go Canada!

[Ghost]

Episode 12......

Not as mind blowing as I thought, but still good. Go Canada!

It lived up to my expectation pretty much exactly, really, except that Zuko ended up even more awesome then I thought he would be.

[ddqfpluskick]

Oh it was awesome, but I expect the gang to find something there beside Zuko like some secret room or something. The Western Air Templs was the coolest!

[NeoSapien]

The only weak part of the episode was the heavy-handed method by which Haru, Teo and The Duke were pushed out of the way. "Hey, there's about to be a scene with important character interaction! Let's go off somewhere and be irrelevant together!"

[Ghost]

The only weak part of the episode was the heavy-handed method by which Haru, Teo and The Duke were pushed out of the way. "Hey, there's about to be a scene with important character interaction! Let's go off somewhere and be irrelevant together!"

It just occured to me that we didn't see them for the entire last part of the episode.

Wouldn't it be terrible if they were inside that part of the temple that got blown off by Combustion Man and it takes, like, two or three episodes for the Gaang to realise that they're missing? :p

[lonewolf23k]

Oh it was awesome, but I expect the gang to find something there beside Zuko like some secret room or something. The Western Air Templs was the coolest!

The only weak part of the episode was the heavy-handed method by which Haru, Teo and The Duke were pushed out of the way. "Hey, there's about to be a scene with important character interaction! Let's go off somewhere and be irrelevant together!"

I expect both of these to be handled next episode, where Haru, Teo and The Duke will reveal a secret room they discovered during their exploration, which Sokka, Toph and Katara will investigate while Aang trains with Zuko.

[NeoSapien]

It just occured to me that we didn't see them for the entire last part of the episode.
They were shown peeking out from behind a pillar after Combustion Man combusted himself... but Aang didn't think they were worthy to be present when they made the final decision on Zuko, apparently. :p

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Mark myy words, you can forget about Zuko.
Moustache Guy is gonna be Aang´s true rival for Katara´s heart.

Avie´ss gonna squirm like a baby when he finds out there´s an oposition...

[The Real Nemo]

She was shocked when he kissed her, then she kissed him back(and was blushing like crazy afterwards). Seems like she reciprocates his feelings to me. Plus, he still has yet to confess to her.
She was blushing yes, but her expression made it hard to read what *kind* of blush it was...

[Bakasama]

Mark myy words, you can forget about Zuko.
Moustache Guy is gonna be Aang´s true rival for Katara´s heart.

Avie´ss gonna squirm like a baby when he finds out there´s an oposition...

You mean sexyfine Haru (http://www.livevideo.com/video/00479C765907485A861CF55599B66065/avatar-abridged-special-haru-.aspx)?

Apparently the writers have heard of Avatar Abridged.

[girder]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1207/ozainathanel6.jpg

[S J C]

Zuko is going to kill Katara.

The last person we saw to make that threat was Roku to Sozin. And we all know how that turned out.

[Bakasama]

Zuko is going to kill Katara.

The last person we saw to make that threat was Roku to Sozin. And we all know how that turned out.

Don't you mean Katara is going to kill Zuko? Zuko appears less psychotic than before. Most people don't realize Katara is Aang biggest fangirl and fangirls can do crazy things to protect their idols.

[S J C]

Don't you mean Katara is going to kill Zuko? Zuko appears less psychotic than before. Most people don't realize Katara is Aang biggest fangirl and fangirls can do crazy things to protect their idols.

Nope back in the Avatar and the Firelord Roku said that Is he made a single step out of bounds it would result in his permanent end, Almost the exact same threat Katara used on Zuko, And we all know what happened to Roku.

[Bakasama]

uh the point I was saying is maybe Katara is the psychotic one not Zuko.

[shades of eternity]

yeah zuko surprisingly seems much more at peace, even if he is talking to frogs :p

you know I've been thinking.

I think one of the main reason why both katara and sokka are so dominant in the group is that they are the defacto parents of their group.

remember they had to grow up fast even before they found ang.

it explains both katara's bossiness and why sokka usually is the one that clamps down when a decision needs to be made.

[Young Avenger]

I think that Zuko is afraid of Katara. When the group was deciding if they should accept him into the group he was sweating bullets when it was Katara's turn. He was shock and surprise when Katara threaten to kill him and didn't say a word. Zuko fears Katara.

[Antonio B.]

I think that Zuko is afraid of Katara. When the group was deciding if they should accept him into the group he was sweating bullets when it was Katara's turn. He was shock and surprise when Katara threaten to kill him and didn't say a word. Zuko fears Katara.

You could be right about that. You would think that he would be afraid of Azula but he definitely isn't. This makes me think of something. I think that if Katara was with Ang, Toph, and Sokka that she would have either killed Azula or hurt her badly in some way. I mean we pretty much see Katara's dark side in that seen with Zuko.

[superbatman86]

I think that Zuko is afraid of Katara. When the group was deciding if they should accept him into the group he was sweating bullets when it was Katara's turn. He was shock and surprise when Katara threaten to kill him and didn't say a word. Zuko fears Katara.Yeah when you stand up to the most powerful man in the world as he shoots lighting at you , your crazy ass sociopathic sister, and the freakin avatar a little girl you've beaten before isn't that scary.

[Arilou]

I think he isn't scare about Azula because he KNOWS her. She's evil, yeah, but he's known that all his life. Cross her and you end up in a world of pain. Predictable in a way.

Katara.... is a lot less predictable.

[Ghost]

I think that Zuko is afraid of Katara. When the group was deciding if they should accept him into the group he was sweating bullets when it was Katara's turn. He was shock and surprise when Katara threaten to kill him and didn't say a word. Zuko fears Katara.

I think he "fears" her in the sense that he knows Katara was the least likely one to accept him. He knows that winning her trust is going to be really, really difficult at best.

In other words, he's afraid he'll mess up in front of her and get kicked off the team. The death threat was just topping, really.

[Kage Kisaragi]

I just started watching this series, and I started with the episode called "Blind Bandit" cause I wanted to see what the deal with this Toph character was, it wasn't that great to me but I watched the next episode "Zuko Alone" and it was a little better but im having a hard time watching the flash backs because I'm just cringing at the characters poor showings. :)

[Ragnorok64]

I just started watching this series, and I started with the episode called "Blind Bandit" cause I wanted to see what the deal with this Toph character was, it wasn't that great to me but I watched the next episode "Zuko Alone" and it was a little better but im having a hard time watching the flash backs because I'm just cringing at the characters poor showings. :)

Start at the beginning.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Start at the beginning.

but some of the voices make my head hurt and give me the feeling that it'd be better to just rip out my eyes. I'll consider it though.

[Ragnorok64]

Also, what specifically did you mean by characters "low showings?"

[Kage Kisaragi]

Also, what specifically did you mean by characters "low showings?"

He screwed up the demonstration he was trying to show his grandfather, sure he was a kid, but I felt sorry for him.

I guess you could call the getting caught by two or three of that thug/soldier earth bender him restraining himself from revealing who he really was. Yet im not really disappointed in that part of the episode. He also didn't seem all that knowledgeable about his grandfathers history in other words Azula kept showing him up, even making him look stupid during that game with the apple and the fire blast. I felt sorry for him.

[Ragnorok64]

He screwed up the demonstration he was trying to show his grandfather, sure he was a kid, but I felt sorry for him.

I guess you could call the getting caught by two or three of that thug/soldier earth bender him restraining himself from revealing who he really was. Yet im not really disappointed in that part of the episode. He also didn't seem all that knowledgeable about his grandfathers history in other words Azula kept showing him up, even making him look stupid during that game with the apple and the fire blast. I felt sorry for him.
it just seemed like you were approaching it with a Rumbles Board mentality. anylazing his feats and what not. You'll enjoy it alot more if you watch it from the begining and also if you take it as it is and not with how it might stack up rumbles wise in mind. Sit back and enjoy the story and characters. It's really a well written show with great continuity, and an interesting world.

[Kage Kisaragi]

it just seemed like you were approaching it with a Rumbles Board mentality. anylazing his feats and what not. You'll enjoy it alot more if you watch it from the begining and also if you take it as it is and not with how it might stack up rumbles wise in mind. Sit back and enjoy the story and characters. It's really a well written show with great continuity, and an interesting world.

I probably will. just finished watching the chase, it was good.

[Kage Kisaragi]

First episode was pretty good. Don't worry I won't be commenting every episode I watch.
Hmm, God I love to feel embarrassed for Sakka, lol. It causes me to even pause the episode just to try and calm myself and get over his flaws.

[Kage Kisaragi]

can someone please give me a link to watch all the episodes with out the stupidness that prevents me from doing it on anime kiosk. Please :(

[Ragnorok64]

can someone please give me a link to watch all the episodes with out the stupidness that prevents me from doing it on anime kiosk. Please :(

Bit torrent is your friend. Research it.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Bit torrent is your friend. Research it.

downloading it on dsl would take forever and a day. :p

[FroFroYo]

can someone please give me a link to watch all the episodes with out the stupidness that prevents me from doing it on anime kiosk. Please :(


http://www.avatarchapters.org/

[Kage Kisaragi]

http://www.avatarchapters.org/

it's funny you should mention that because i was in the middle of watching the next episode on there already thanks for the response though. *notes that google helped me find this when yahoo turned up nothing helpful.*

[Kage Kisaragi]

You'll enjoy it alot more if you watch it from the begining and also if you take it as it is .

Gotta admit, it wasn't at all bad. Also rumbles or not, thats not how I viewed it, but I will admitted i was a little skeptical about a nickelodeon show, I mean nothing against then, i loved it when I was a kid but felt "no way a american animation could possible do something of this magnitude and do it well."

I guess it just goes to show, can't judge a book by its cousin's contents. lol

[Kage Kisaragi]

You'll enjoy it alot more if you watch it from the begining and also if you take it as it is .

Gotta admit, it wasn't at all bad. Also rumbles or not, thats not how I viewed it, but I will admitted i was a little skeptical about a nickelodeon show, I mean nothing against them, I loved it when I was a kid but felt "no way a american animation could possible do something of this magnitude and do it well."

I guess it just goes to show, can't judge a book by its cousin's contents. lol

[Bakasama]

Gotta admit, it wasn't at all bad. Also rumbles or not, thats not how I viewed it, but I will admitted i was a little skeptical about a nickelodeon show, I mean nothing against then, i loved it when I was a kid but felt "no way a american animation could possible do something of this magnitude and do it well."

I guess it just goes to show, can't judge a book by its cousin's contents. lol

yeah, that's one of negatives about Avatar. There are people that refuse to watch Nick for various reasons and they never get to see Avatar because of that. Another one is "OMG Avatar is fake anime!!!111" and think it sucks because of that.

[Kage Kisaragi]

yeah, that's one of negatives about Avatar. There are people that refuse to watch Nick for various reasons and they never get to see Avatar because of that. Another one is "OMG Avatar is fake anime!!!111" and think it sucks because of that.

I don't know about the fake anime part, I've been a long time advocate that american animation has become lazy and uninspired, but if we could get more writers and artist like those on Avatar then we'd be in a better position in terms of our own animation culture than we are now. Also I don't have cable so there is no way for me to watch Avatar, the little I did see was when I would go visit my mom. lol

Also what I meant about the cousins content was that most other American Animation just plain old sucks.

[Ghost]

First episode was pretty good. Don't worry I won't be commenting every episode I watch.
Hmm, God I love to feel embarrassed for Sakka, lol. It causes me to even pause the episode just to try and calm myself and get over his flaws.

His name is "Sokka", actually.

And he is made out of awesome and win. Wait and see.

[Ragnorok64]

His name is "Sokka", actually.

And he is made out of awesome and win. Wait and see.

Not to mention a side of irresistible Pimpitude.

[Arilou]

I can't see Zuko's story being as effective unless you through his period of being the Implacable Man in season 1.

[Kage Kisaragi]

His name is "Sokka", actually.

And he is made out of awesome and win. Wait and see.

I already seen his pimpness at work, lol back in like the 4th episode I think, when they were on kyoshu? Island. lol very nice Sokka, very nice Sokka lol. I'm kidding of course, I mean the girl did give him a smooch on the cheek. Which is why I thought it was weird when Katara said he'd never kissed a girl before later on in the series and he acts all weird about it, like its true. The girl who's on Azula's team on hunters or whatever thought he was cute, so apparently he gets noticed. :cool:

[Arilou]

I already seen his pimpness at work, lol back in like the 4th episode I think, when they were on kyoshu? Island. lol very nice Sokka, very nice Sokka lol. I'm kidding of course, I mean the girl did give him a smooch on the cheek. Which is why I thought it was weird when Katara said he'd never kissed a girl before later on in the series and he acts all weird about it, like its true. The girl who's on Azula's team on hunters or whatever thought he was cute, so apparently he gets noticed. :cool:

Actually the reason he acts all weird is because well, he HAS kissed a girl. It's just that no one else knows.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Actually the reason he acts all weird is because well, he HAS kissed a girl. It's just that no one else knows.

Thats what I meant, why act goofy if you already claimed the prize? It's like the total opposite of what should happen.

Like that age old stereotype..
Guy who's never been with a Girl = Dork
Guy who's been with a few Girls = Cool Guy
Guy who's been with more Girl's than he has fingers and toes = Pimp!

[Kage Kisaragi]

So i just finished Book 1, ... very good. Actually, amazing! I liked every episode.

[Dark Soul # 7]

So i just finished Book 1, ... very good. Actually, amazing! I liked every episode.Now watch all of Book 2 in the correct order. It's even better.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Now watch all of Book 2 in the correct order. It's even better.

of course Sifu Dark Soul #7, I wouldn't want to interrupt the story thus far. ;p


my oh my Sokka really is a pimp, haha!

[cappa donna]

of course Sifu Dark Soul #7, I wouldn't want to interrupt the story thus far. ;p


my oh my Sokka really is a pimp, haha!

Yea, it's infinitely better. And you'll prolly become a huge fan of female characters in the show. Just saying...:rolleyes:

[Kage Kisaragi]

just finished all of book 2, ... wow.. things with Zuko didn't actually good how I thought it would, or at least thats how it seems so far.

[Kage Kisaragi]

And you'll prolly become a huge fan of female characters in the show. Just saying...:rolleyes:

:confused: What's that supposed to mean? You got me paged as some kind of pedophile or something lol? Actually, Well I did like Azula's level of intelligence, I love characters who are that clever and quick. Her plots and schemes are transparent to me but I have to admit I admire that she has them when apparently no one else does.

Besides theres not a whole lot of guys to like. Though Sokka's pimpness is all thats truly needed in a cool male character, yet Iroh has the pimp hand to. Though his Pimp Fu is kind of on the dirty old sage side. What he pulled with that female hunter with the giant weasel was classic.

[literally exaggerated]

What's that supposed to mean? You got me paged as some kind of pedophile or something lol? Actually, Well I did like Azula's level of intelligence, I love characters who are that clever and quick her plots and schemes are transparent to me but I have to admit I admire that she has them when apparently no one else does.

He's just saying that because he's nuts for Azula. I like her too, but also LOVE Toph. While Katara is probably my least favorite of the main characters, thats more of a function of me loving all the other characters and merely being moderately engaged by her. However, she is the star of an extremely cool season 3 episode in which she gets a sick powerup. Just wait.

Besides theres not a whole lot of guys to like. Though I Sokka pimpness is all thats truly needed in a cool male character. Yet Iroh has the pimp hand to. Though his Pimp Fu is kind of on the dirty old sage side. What he pulled with that female hunter with the giant weasel was classic.

Sokka is a genius. Really. Just wait. Also, Zuko rules, even if he is an idiot like 85% of the time. And of course Iroh is the man on a near pantheon level.

[Kage Kisaragi]

OMG Azula is a Psycho! Of course im referencing the episode called "The Beach" ...LOL funny stuff really, also a first in terms of Avatar viewing in the sense that I felt nauseous after seeing those old saggy boobs from those grannies. Yeah but Azula's definitely demented. She goes a bit to far.

Also though I don't care much for the girl friend Zuko had, ... I still felt bad when she dumped him. :( I mean he was definitely the 3rd most awesome male character in the show, especially since chicks digged him. .... Okay, this episode had me going through the motions, cause Zuko makes you feel bad for him at one point, then becomes a total dick, NO ONE SHOULD HATE ON TY LEE! :)

hmm yet Zuko gets his girl back all but 10 minutes later... now im conflicted.

Eww, Nasty Katara just bended sweat from her armpits

[cappa donna]

OMG Azula is a Psycho! Of course im referencing the episode called "The Beach" ...LOL funny stuff really, also a first in terms of Avatar viewing in the sense that I felt nauseous after seeing those old saggy boobs from those grannies. Yeah but Azula's definitely demented. She goes a bit to far.

Also though I don't care much for the girl friend Zuko had, ... I still felt bad when she dumped him. :( I mean he was definitely the 3rd most awesome male character in the show, especially since chicks digged him. .... Okay, this episode had me going through the motions, cause Zuko makes you feel bad for him at one point, then becomes a total dick, NO ONE SHOULD HATE ON TY LEE! :)

hmm yet Zuko gets his girl back all but 10 minutes later... now im conflicted.

Eww, Nasty Katara just bended sweat from her armpits

1. Azula's not demented. She's just a very, very strong and competitive personality. Born to lead, you know.

2. Zuko seserved to be dumped because he was being a jerk going nuts for no reason.

3. Azula's the greatest thing since sliced...Azula's greater than sliced bread!

[Kage Kisaragi]

okay watched the 12 episode of book 3, whats the latest episode number? ... I think the Aang Gang was being kind of dickish, but hey thats just me. I do feel bad for Zuko's Girlfriend, he just disappeared again, after what? 2 months of being reunited? Oh well so far the Beach Episode was by far the best.

[Ghost]

1. Azula's not demented. She's just a very, very strong and competitive personality. Born to lead, you know.

She is kind of a psychopath, though.

I mean, she actually admits it herself, for crying out loud.

[Kage Kisaragi]

She also says that her mother called her a monster. She takes pleasure in the causing her own brother anguish. Her interest in boys boils down to "Together we shall be the strongest couple in the world!" or something like that. She's cute and all, but I feel sorry for the poor unsuspecting sap who marries her. She takes pleasure in tormenting her best friends too, I mean poor Ty Lee didn't want to necessarily leave the circus, but what did Azula do? She poked and prodded her, and then antagonized her during her performance. Not to mention how she psychoanalyzed her other friend Mai when they were at the beach.. The girl has issues but as her friend I don't think that was necessarily the best way of addressing it. I can't wait to see how she reacts to embarrassment and failure, especially in the eyes of her father. I can't wait for her to show her true colors then.

[lonewolf23k]

She also says that her mother called her a monster. She takes pleasure in the causing her own brother anguish. Her interest in boys boils down to "Together we shall be the strongest couple in the world!" or something like that. She's cute and all, but I feel sorry for the poor unsuspecting sap to marries her. She takes pleasure in tormenting her best friends too, I mean poor Ty Lee didn't want to necessarily leave the circus, but what did Azula do? She poked and prodded her, and then antagonized her performance. Not to mention how she psychoanalyzed her other friend Mai when they were at the beach.. The girl has issues but as her friend I don't think that was necessarily the way of addressing it. I can't wait to see how she reacts to embarrassment and failure, especially in the eyes of her father. I can't wait for her to show her true colors then.

Agreed. Azula has been in control of damn near everything in her life so far, but from I've seen, she doesn't handle the unforseen with grace and patience. Once things start going south for her, I'm afraid poor little Azula will snap... :evilsmile

[AllisterH]

Agreed. Azula has been in control of damn near everything in her life so far, but from I've seen, she doesn't handle the unforseen with grace and patience. Once things start going south for her, I'm afraid poor little Azula will snap... :evilsmile

I'm wondering how Azula will react if and when Ty Lee and Mai side with Zuko. Zuko's betrayal will come as a shock to her as I think from the beach episode, Azula thought she had Zuko totally dancing to her tune.

If Mai and Ty Lee bolt for Zuko, I think Azula might actually get angry as those two are HER friends moreso than Zuko.

[LWhitehead]

Hi big fan of Avatar last Air bender, but I've got idea that hope will become official in the series Westerners.



Yes your heard me Westerners a Germanic race that incounters the Four Kingdoms of the land of the Avatar, the reason I chosed German is to the Asian races German speech is the most differcult to understand from there point of view. Also they would have Matchlock Rifle big and clumsy longarms and Cannons as well,


LW

[lonewolf23k]

Hi big fan of Avatar last Air bender, but I've got idea that hope will become official in the series Westerners.



Yes your heard me Westerners a Germanic race that incounters the Four Kingdoms of the land of the Avatar, the reason I chosed German is to the Asian races German speech is the most differcult to understand from there point of view. Also they would have Matchlock Rifle big and clumsy longarms and Cannons as well,


LW

...I don't think that's gonna happen, Tim. The Four Nations are pretty much all there is in the world of Avatar.

[Wild Card13]

Hi big fan of Avatar last Air bender, but I've got idea that hope will become official in the series Westerners.



Yes your heard me Westerners a Germanic race that incounters the Four Kingdoms of the land of the Avatar, the reason I chosed German is to the Asian races German speech is the most differcult to understand from there point of view. Also they would have Matchlock Rifle big and clumsy longarms and Cannons as well,


LW

How exactly would you know which language was "the hardest" for us Asians to understand? Are you yourself an Asian and have trouble chatting it up with your good pal Dieter? I know that I actually understand German rather well, due to its similarity to English. If there's any language that would be hard to comprehend, especially from a linguistic point of view, you want something weird like the Mayan languages Quiché or Nahuatl, which have no compatibility with anything in Asia or Europe. I find it rather insulting that you'd be so presumptive.

The creators have said that the Four Nations are all of the world of Avatar. The map we've always seen is the kind where the world is flattened out, but really, there's nothing on the back of that map.

Please don't take it personally when I say that this is an awful idea that should never see the light of day in any hemisphere on any planet. Merry Christmas to you.

[Megaman XXX]

My favorite character on the show is not Azula, Toph or Ty Lee. But Mai and Suki. I don't know why, but I just can't stand Toph or Ty Lee.

[Wild Card13]

My favorite character on the show is not Azula, Toph or Ty Lee. But Mai and Suki. I don't know why, but I just can't stand Toph or Ty Lee.

Awww...I love Toph. She rocks on so many levels!

[Megaman XXX]

Awww...I love Toph. She rocks on so many levels!Well I don't think so, she seems to mary sueish and arrogant on so many levels. And Mai rocks more than she does when it comes to being on a epic win scale. At least in my opinion.

[Wild Card13]

Well I don't think so, she seems to mary sueish and arrogant on so many levels. And Mai rocks more than she does when it comes to being on a epic win scale. At least in my opinion.

I wouldn't call Toph Mary Sue-ish. She's abrasive, rude, and stubborn. Also, even though she's got a very clever gimmick, there are so many ways around it that it's far from invincible. You could drop her in water, injure her feet, confine her with wood, or simply pick her up, and not only does she become powerless, she becomes really blind. In other words, I don't think she's overpowered enough, nor does she have the temperament to really be considered a Mary Sue.

Just my opinion, though. If anyone, I think Katara is the series' closest thing to a Mary Sue.

[Kage Kisaragi]

speaking of Toph, does anyone else look at her in her green outfit and wanna pick her up and squeeze her.. Toph should be a plushie.

Really all the characters are so well rounded that really they all deserve some love. It would be hard to pick a favorite I guess. Still some characters deserve to be liked by everyone, especially Ty Lee. Sure shes cute but she doesn't wave it your face or act snobbish about it. How can you hate a carefree spirit who has just as many ups and she does downs?

Azula maybe crazy but like I said, the girl is full win. Shes smart, shes fast, shes strong, and pretty.. The girl is the total package cept for her one down to earth flaw shes PSYCHO!

Mai to me comes off as more than just detached, but rather she seems kind of lazy to me to. Maybe thats why she has the biggest thighs out of the three girls. Always getting those damn fruit tarts. Hair style makes her head look bigger than the others to. Actually looks evil too.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Indeed, the show has given us some truly complex characters that feel very real and not generic.

As for favorites I'll divide them up into male and female camps.

Male.
1. Zuko
2. Iroh
3. Sokka

Female
1. Toph
2. Azula
3. Uh... Suki, I guess

[Dark Soul # 7]

Well I don't think so, she seems to mary sueish and arrogant on so many levels. And Mai rocks more than she does when it comes to being on a epic win scale. At least in my opinion.Are you sure that you're not Maikofan?

[Ragnorok64]

Are you sure that you're not Maikofan?

I was thinking the same thing...

[Len Ikari145]

Are you sure that you're not Maikofan?

I was thinking the same thing...

Glad to know I wasn't the only one.

But s/he hasn't been banned so why show up using another account?

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Man, I feel more and more isolated by the day...

Is there anyone left out there who also adores Katara but me?

[Len Ikari145]

Man, I feel more and more isolated by the day...

Is there anyone left out there who also adores Katara but me?

*waves hands in the air frenetically* ME! ME!

[Young Avenger]

Man, I feel more and more isolated by the day...

Is there anyone left out there who also adores Katara but me?

I don't adore her but I've always liked Katara.

[Arilou]

I don't adore her but I've always liked Katara.

Yeah, same here. She's not a bad character at all, it's just that all the others are much better.

My faves:

Male:
1. Zuko
2. Iroh
3. Sokka

Female:
1. Toph
2. Azula
3. Mai

[Ghost]

Male:
1 - Sokka
2 - Iroh
3 - Zuko

(All three of them are very close, though, and their rankings may change depending on my mood or who was most awesome in the latest episode I watched.)

Female
1 - Toph
2 - Ty Lee
3 - I guess Katara and Azula (Both about equal.)

[Young Avenger]

My faves:

1. Toph
2. Iroh
3. Zuko
4. Sokka
5. Tie - Momo/Appa

[cappa donna]

Now Me! :D

Male
1. Iroh
2. Ozai
3. Appa/MoMo

Female
1. Azula is will. Azula is the way!
2. Ty Lee
3. Toph

[Kage Kisaragi]

... ^ not to change the subject but Cappadona wasn't the real quote "It's my throat penis." ...

I thought you quote was from Bleach, but I might be wrong. :)

[cappa donna]

... ^ not to change the subject but Cappadona wasn't the real quote "It's my throat penis." ...

I thought you quote was from Bleach, but I might be wrong. :)

Nah, it's from "The Western Air Temple" wherein Sokka excalims that "It's my my throatal flap" when insisting that he knows when there's something wrong with it. They don't have a word for tonsil in the Avatarverse and I don't watch Bleach.

AZULA RULEZ!

[Kage Kisaragi]

Nah, it's from "The Western Air Temple" wherein Sokka excalims that "It's my my throatal flap" when insisting that he knows when there's something wrong with it. They don't have a word for tonsil in the Avatarverse and I don't watch Bleach.

AZULA RULEZ!

Ahh, now I remember that part.. When he and Katara eventually ended up sucking frozen frogs. lol

[MKTerra]

Here's (http://community.livejournal.com/avatar_fans/2082750.html) a clip of the Japanese dub for Warriors of Kyoshi :p

[Arilou]

That's... Totally awesome.

Is that ... Whatshername, Haruhi Suzumiya, who voices Suki? I think I recognize Katar's VA as well. As well as the elder.

[CDB]

Man, I feel more and more isolated by the day...

Is there anyone left out there who also adores Katara but me?

You have another Katara fan right here.;)

[Bakasama]

Here's (http://community.livejournal.com/avatar_fans/2082750.html) a clip of the Japanese dub for Warriors of Kyoshi :p

Ah that, I found some rather interesting things about the Japanese fans of cartoons or western shows in general. They will watch the show "raw" in English or wait for a dub. The sub fandom as we know for anime fans doesn't seen to exist in Japan. Apparently they watch these shows youtube in English.

[Arilou]

Well, english IS taught in japanese schools, so I suspect most japanese interested are in a better position to "watch the raws" than the reverse.

[Bakasama]

Well, english IS taught in japanese schools, so I suspect most japanese interested are in a better position to "watch the raws" than the reverse.

Yeah there's a little known secret about that. The Japanese are generally pretty poor at speaking it, not to sound insulting. The amount of Engrish I've seen in Japan and in some anime seem to be evidence of such. I think the lack of people of that speak English in Japan which is why they're poor at understanding it. I actually did a speech about this for Japanese class.

Most English anime speaking boards I've been to, Japanese native speakers on those board are VERY rare. Some those rare Japanese posters that do post on those boards often use a translator to post in English. Some of others can read and write in English.

Anyway, these fans would watch these show without understanding any of the words and would just interpret the action to understand what was going on. Kind of like how a deaf person would a TV show. That's how pre-Robotech/Voltron anime fans would watch anime.

[Arilou]

Just one note:

Speaking a language is MUCH harder than understanding it.

You'd probably figure my english skills are pretty decent from reading my posts, right?

Well, that's not the whole story. Speaking ain't writin' and writin' ain't readin' or listenin'.

I can't speak german worth a damn, I can understand some of it if they speak slowly and clearly, I can read your average newspaper article.

ESPECIALLY when you have visual cues to aid you (eg. watching a movie) and some kind of frame of reference.

So that japanese pupils might be totally incapable of *speaking* english... That doesen't mean they can't understand it.

[literally exaggerated]

my own experience in Japan was that the average Japanese student speaks English about as well as the average American student speaks Spanish (provided they've attended schools that taught it as opposed to French or whatever). Enough phrases and basics to get by, and if you give them time to sit down and study something or watch a movie they can usually get it, but throw them into the middle of a conversation between native speakers and they're lost. Still, thats probably enough to watch Avatar and understand most of it.

[literally exaggerated]

Man, I feel more and more isolated by the day...

Is there anyone left out there who also adores Katara but me?

I've been rewatching the entire series, and Katara's really growing on me. The first time through I spent all my time focusing on my favorites- Zuko and Iroh, Toph, Sokka. So going back I'm paying more attention to Katara and she really is a great character. Her development in season 1 is excellent- she starts out basically useless in a fight (apart from that great bit in the second episode where she tries to freeze that guy but freezes Sokka behind her instead, so she turns around and does the exact same motion to freeze the guy she originally wanted to freeze. it was funny, and fit perfectly with her ability level at the time, but also showed that she's pretty quick on her feet) and they never shoehorn her in to make her more dangerous than she is. When she doesn't know what she's doing, its obvious and since she's not a warrior she's lost in most fights. They really gradually show her improving, not just with the water scroll, but piece by piece and episode by episode she gets slightly more useful each time, until by the time she has her fight with Master Pakku and she can hold her own and it doesn't feel at all unnatural or forced or out of the blue. Gradual, believable development like that is incredibly hard to do well, which is why most shows resort to specific powerups or training sessions or timeskips to show that the character has gotten stronger.

[ddqfpluskick]

who hates Katara?

I think she has great characteristics and is a vast array of emotions instead just sticking to a select few.

[Kage Kisaragi]

shes the female lead, its almost certain she has the majority of the fanbase, so of course we the online community in our never ending stride to be different choose the non female leads as our favorites, some of us just to spite popularity. I blame it all on the school system!

Ty Lee needs to become a good guy and hang out with Sokka so they can go out and be all kinds of awesome couple wise. :p

[AllisterH]

who hates Katara?

I think she has great characteristics and is a vast array of emotions instead just sticking to a select few.

I don't think anyone hates Katara.

It's just that if you ask people to list, "My 5 favourite Avatar characters", katara isn't on the list.

Most people have a list composed of Sokka, Toph, Iroh and Zuko with the final 5th person being one of the random characters (just as likely to see a person put down Ty Lee as to see someone put down Azula for their 5th fav Avatar character).

Katara is just there.

[Jack]

Katara has her fair share of great moments, but she's probably the most traditional of the characters. The exception might be Iroh, but Iroh is better done and definitely has a more interesting journey than Katara.

Katara's character hasn't really gone anywhere since Book One, and her journey was pretty much just from amateur to master Waterbender. And that's not exactly a bad thing, because she doesn't have any real flaws, and it's important that she be the grounding, mature influence on the group, but it doesn't compare to the arcs of the other characters. I'm hoping that we're going to get something more interesting out of her distrust of Zuko, of course.

[literally exaggerated]

I was hoping the bloodbending would be the start of further delving into Katara's darkside, but they haven't really gone back to it at all.

[lonewolf23k]

I was hoping the bloodbending would be the start of further delving into Katara's darkside, but they haven't really gone back to it at all.

Well, Katara is deliberatly trying to avoid using the ability, which only works under a Full Moon anyway. And since you only get one of those a month, it's not like you can have her use it every other episode, since ATLA seems to have a realistically progressing timeline.

[literally exaggerated]

I didn't mean literal bloodbending, I meant I hoped that using a forbidden, horrific technique out of necessity would start Katara morphing into a more ruthless, pragmatic character. I realize that she's the "mother" of the group and its moral center, but she seems to be the one who deviates least from her type. Sokka and Zuko are obviously bundles of contradictions, but even seemingly straightforward characters like Toph and Iroh are much, much more than just "the badass" and "the mentor". For every shot of Toph going it alone or kicking ass, we see her as a little girl who misses her mother. For all of Iroh's wisdom and kindness, there are times where he is wrong or foolish, and other times where he is scary and brutal. But Katara is nearly always the voice of morality untempered by any sort of darkness or ruthlessness. Aang has this problem a little as well, but even he's developed a lot more. The only other main character as one-note as Katara is Azula, and at least she has the excuse of an obvious clinical personality disorder.

Her conversation with Zuko gave me hope though. Here's hoping they don't simply make her act bitchy to him for a while before warming up, but actually work to make us believe that if necessary she would kill him.

[xAgentx Iron Fist]

hey did u guys know that there making an avatar movie written and directed by M. Night Shyamalan. live action to
i truly truly with the deepest part of my soul HATE this idea.
its gonna be a trilogy aka based on the 3 books aka a watered down version of the show. i would rather an animated movie with a separate story line.
no word on actors yet but night said that its gonna be no named actors

[Kage Kisaragi]

oh GAWD this screams of PHAIL!!!

little kids utilizing kung fu to further control the elements.. NO MORE PLEASE!!

I only recently fell in love with the show, and now a live action version threatens to kill my love of it.. WHY HATH THOU FORSAKEN ME HOLLYWOOD WHY!?

[xAgentx Iron Fist]

no worries they woulnt start filming for 2 years

[Len Ikari145]

oh GAWD this screams of PHAIL!!!

little kids utilizing kung fu to further control the elements.. NO MORE PLEASE!!

I only recently fell in love with the show, and now a live action version threatens to kill my love of it.. WHY HATH THOU FORSAKEN ME HOLLYWOOD WHY!?

Mike and Bryan are personally involved with the movie's development, so I wouldn't be too worried.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Why live action though? I mean why develope the characters the way they did if they are gonna (more than likely) change everything you thought you knew about them?

I have a feeling we aren't gonna get Avatar the Movie in the same sense we got say TMNT. I mean, im fully expecting them to cast incorrectly, change costumes , the setting might be similiar but I highly doubt it'll be the same. Anyway we'll see.

[xAgentx Iron Fist]

Mike and Bryan are personally involved with the movie's development, so I wouldn't be too worried.

yea but i wish they wrote it.

[Young Avenger]

yea but i wish they wrote it.

Same here. When it comes to writing M. Night Shyamalan is kinda like a one trick pony. He'll be some absurd twist in the movie like Zuko and Aang are long lost brothers or some stupid like that.

[Kage Kisaragi]

Same here. When it comes to writing M. Night Shyamalan is kinda like a one trick pony. He'll be some absurd twist in the movie like Zuko and Aang are long lost brothers or some stupid like that.

The moment you said that I had a Grappler Baki II moment.

[S J C]

Well here is something from the anime news network (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31370)

The last page of the script has been leaked!

Katara: Wow. who would have thought Zuko was really a robot all along, and Uncle Iroh was just a paranoid delusion who never really existed, and Canada doesn't actually have any people in it, it's all just a hoax by the media.

Aang: Yeah, that's almost as unexpected as the fact that you're a ghost!

Katara: I'm a ghost? Oh, that explains why I never touched anything throughout the movie. At least not after that part where I was hit by a bus.

Toph: Yeah, I thought it was funny how you seemed to be in such good shape after that.

(M. Night Shamalan walks into frame, stares at the audiance for fifteen seconds, nods knowingly, and walks back out of frame.)

Aang: Well, I guess our adventure will continue in the second movie. But not for Sokka, since he's actually a Labrador Retriever in an elaborate disguise.

Sokka: Woof, woof.

[Jack]

yea but i wish they wrote it.
"No studio can ever justify spending a hundred and twenty million dollars to make a movie based on a script written by the author who's never had a movie made before."

Just happened to listen to the commentary at the end of the Ender's Game audiobook, where Orson Scott Card described how he wrote screenplays for an Ender's Game movie, but knew that anything he did would only be a draft that would be written over for the final version.

Like him or not, Shyamalan is a successful screenwriter, and can be banked upon by a studio. No matter how good or successful you may be in a different medium, you're almost certainly not going to get people to bet on you like that.

And, before anyone tries to say otherwise, that's perfectly reasonable. Writing for a film is different from writing a tv series, and being good at one doesn't automatically make you good at the other.

[ddqfpluskick]

This just in......

......a 100th fan pairing has just ban added to the already over packed imagination of viewer everywhere.

Zufrogga

Seriously I stumbled across some fan art there are a lot of pairings

[Dark Soul # 7]

This just in......

......a 100th fan pairing has just ban added to the already over packed imagination of viewer everywhere.

Zufrogga

Seriously I stumbled across some fan art there are a lot of pairingsWhat? You mean the frogg from the last episode?

[AllisterH]

The Firebending Masters



No surprise really as to who/what the firebending masters are especially given that Toph talked about the original badgermoles.

If Sozin wasn't a dick before, what we learned here definitely puts him in the superdickery club.

Dragons ARE huge. I just loved Zuko's "We can take these masters!!!" and then seeing these huge dragons which make Appa look small "I never said we could take them, stop lying"

Nice.

Liked the end of it as well.
Zuko: "It's not a dance, but a sacred firebending teaching ritual",
Sokka: "so what's it called"
Zuko: ......"The Dancing Dragons"....
Everyone else: *Laughter*

[CDB]

The Firebending Masters



No surprise really as to who/what the firebending masters are especially given that Toph talked about the original badgermoles.

If Sozin wasn't a dick before, what we learned here definitely puts him in the superdickery club.

Dragons ARE huge. I just loved Zuko's "We can take these masters!!!" and then seeing these huge dragons which make Appa look small "I never said we could take them, stop lying"

Nice.

Liked the end of it as well.
Zuko: "It's not a dance, but a sacred firebending teaching ritual",
Sokka: "so what's it called"
Zuko: ......"The Dancing Dragons"....
Everyone else: *Laughter*


Man, I cannot wait to see this one. :D

[Young Avenger]

So is the episode out on the web?

[LordKaos]

It is now if you haven't already got it.

[Dark Soul # 7]

It's out on youtube. Just search for the Firebending Masters.

Great episode, I loved Zuko's interaction with Aang and Sokka, and Katara's still edgy. If this is the way things are going to be for awhile things cannot come fast enough.

I thought that the sunstone was going to be a dragon egg that Zuko would care for.

I wonder if the dragons multicolored flames are a more advanced version of Azula's blue fire.

[Nik Hasta]

I thought that the sunstone was going to be a dragon egg that Zuko would care for.

I wonder if the dragons multicolored flames are a more advanced version of Azula's blue fire.

I thought this too.

However, why does Azula have such advanced firebending without knowing it's true origins and can Iroh make coloured flame but has just been hiding it till now.

[Bakasama]

I thought this too.

However, why does Azula have such advanced firebending without knowing it's true origins and can Iroh make coloured flame but has just been hiding it till now.

It's simple really. Azula is just full hate, which seems to imply she's just evil to the core. One has to remember the current firebending, as practiced by the Fire Nation, is just a corrupted from it's original form.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Man, now I want Zuko to use green or purple fire against Azula, just to see her reaction.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Great episode, I don´t usualy like Zuko-centric episodes but this one was nice .
Didn´t care much for the Water tribe brothers this time, though; they came off as just being mean to Zuko and Aang for the sake of being mean.

[Gladiaria_Alata]

Awesome episode!

I especially loved the dragons.

[Kage Kisaragi]

avatarchapters.org is as good as youtube without all the clutter and more informative.

anyway, yeah it was a okay episode the whole "cant use my fire bending." kind of surprised me, especially since he helped fight combustion man in the other episode.

[Dark Soul # 7]

avatarchapters.org is as good as youtube without all the clutter and more informative.

anyway, yeah it was a okay episode the whole "cant use my fire bending." kind of surprised me, especially since he helped fight combustion man in the other episode.Spoiler tags for those who haven't seen it.

But remember that even then his fire blasts were unusually wimpy.

I'm loving good guy Zuko. His as funny as Sokka, but in a more Zuko kind of way.

[Jack]

Spoiler tags for those who haven't seen it.

But remember that even then his fire blasts were unusually wimpy.

I'm loving good guy Zuko. His as funny as Sokka, but in a more Zuko kind of way.
Everything before he actually joined could count as his original drive to hunt Aang just being refocused, although he probably was a bit weaker. Once he had accomplished that goal, Zuko lost all his drive and thus all of his active Firebending.

As for the different colours... My interpretation is that they represent the different feelings and drives that one can have to power Firebending. Blue is the higher form of anger and hate, I guess. But Azula achieved that (presumably) without understanding the true nature of Firebending and the Fire element, so it's incredible but still not complete.

Now that Zuko knows the truth, he'll probably be able to create Fire of different colours. I'm expecting this to come up in his eventual duel with Azula, where he will show her the truth by manifesting multiple colours.

Iroh should be able to do it too, but there are a couple of reasons why he might not have shown it yet. First, he was out of shape until very recently, and might not have been physically up to the job. It's worth referring back to the reaction of the prison guard, who said he'd never seen anything like Iroh when he broke out.

Second he swore to keep everything about the Sun Warriors secret. He didn't even tell Zuko, even though he taught Zuko Firebending and even tried to teach him to understand the different elements and what they meant. He didn't teach him the Dancing Dragon form, after all. So part of his oath might have been to keep the Sun Warrior Firebending secret too.

Finally, even in an episode he was barely in, Sokka still managed to be incredible. Jerkbending indeed.

Ooh, and I'm editing in the fact that reformed Zuko is only second to Sokka in my opinion.

[K.O.V.G]

I wonder who were the original Water benders probably sharks or an Ancient sea animal.

[S J C]

I wonder who were the original Water benders probably sharks or an Ancient sea animal.

The waterbenders copyed form Tui and La. As mentioned in Book 1.

[Arilou]

"Bad News Everyone! I've lost my stuff!"
"Don't look at me! I didn't TOUCH your stuff!"

Hmmm, I guess we also learned why Iroh is known as the Dragon of the West eh?

I love Zuko's interactions with the Gaang. And you can really sense that he is more at peace with himself, but still the same person with a lot of the same flaws and traits.

And dude.... Those Masters were the dragons from Zuko's dream back in Season 2.... Same colours at least.

But seriously. Funniest moment?
"Now that you know of our existence we have no choice but to imprison you here for all time!
....
Just kidding.
But seriously, don't tell anyone."

[Jack]

Hmmm, I guess we also learned why Iroh is known as the Dragon of the West eh?Actually that's one of the things in the episode that didn't really jibe with past events. Previously Iroh and Zuko had said (or rather demonstrated) that Iroh was called the Dragon of the West because he was particularly good at breathing fire. While it's true that defeating a dragon only apparently earned one the title Dragon, I can't see how firebreathing would possibly let him add "of the West" to it.

Likewise Azula's response when asked if Iroh had ever told her how he got his nickname doesn't really fit, since she's an expert on Fire Nation history and should have answered that he got it by killing the last dragon.

[S J C]

Actually that's one of the things in the episode that didn't really jibe with past events. Previously Iroh and Zuko had said (or rather demonstrated) that Iroh was called the Dragon of the West because he was particularly good at breathing fire. While it's true that defeating a dragon only apparently earned one the title Dragon, I can't see how firebreathing would possibly let him add "of the West" to it.

Likewise Azula's response when asked if Iroh had ever told her how he got his nickname doesn't really fit, since she's an expert on Fire Nation history and should have answered that he got it by killing the last dragon.

Maybe it's a different title for example, Iroh, heir of the Fire Lord, General of the army's, Dragon, Etc, Etc.

While the Dragon of the West title is from the flame breath