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cappa donna
01-11-2008, 08:26 PM
Fire thus far has been the best in combat, though that may be simply because Azula and Iroh are a notch above basically everyone else in a fight. Its worth noting that the other benders are more than a match for Zuko though, who is a pretty decent firebender (beat Zhao 1 on 1 at the very beginning of the series), which supports a reading that its less about the element and more about the bender. I'm sure if Azula was born a waterbender she could still kick some serious ass, and same goes for earth and air.
But reading elements value s being purely combat oriented is a pretty limited view. Like Jyeong Jyeong said, fire (at least as practiced by the fire nation) can do nothing but destroy. Thats great if you're a psychopath, but most people don't spend their entire lives trying to kill other people. Water can heal, earth offers unrivaled ability to reshape the world around you, and air allows you to see the world on all levels. Fire does seem to offer some possibilities for industrial development, but in the fire nation's case even that has been oriented completely towards arms development, and at great expense to the landscape. I know if I was choosing an element, I'd pick one likely to enhance my life, rather than one that wiould encourage me to be brutally murderous.
Didn't you see the last episode? Fire is far more than destruction. Aang said it himself "Fire is life!" It's energy. With all the colors there was also some photo/thermo-kinesis. Hell, Azula can shoot lightining from her figer tips. May be able to power a city block too. Firebending is far more than just lighting stuff on fire. I think you can use firebending to amp your physical abilities too by augmenting the bio electricity that's in the body. I think Iroh did that to become He-Man.
NeoSapien
01-12-2008, 06:11 AM
Waterbending is the most powerful; just look at Pakku's decimation of Fire Navy ships. A master waterbender at the poles would probably beat any other type of bender short of the Avatar. Unfortunately, it's also the most limited, since it waxes and wanes with the Moon and with the amount of water available to the bender.
Airbending seems to be the weakest. This is not helped by the fact that Aang is the last airbender and can also use the other three elements, making it unnecessary for airbending to be given any additional abilities since Aang has more than enough variety available already.
ddqfpluskick
01-12-2008, 08:40 AM
The fact an Air bender can fly without mechanical help seems like a skill the can trump fire, water, and earth. In term of range fire and earth have the the second most since you are on solid ground and the sun shines all day. Up until the bloodbending episode Katara was limited by needing a sources of water. Air is every where and can be used on land and sea. Air has more utility than the other elements.
cappa donna
01-12-2008, 09:15 AM
Waterbending is the most powerful; just look at Pakku's decimation of Fire Navy ships. A master waterbender at the poles would probably beat any other type of bender short of the Avatar. Unfortunately, it's also the most limited, since it waxes and wanes with the Moon and with the amount of water available to the bender.
Airbending seems to be the weakest. This is not helped by the fact that Aang is the last airbender and can also use the other three elements, making it unnecessary for airbending to be given any additional abilities since Aang has more than enough variety available already.
Well, you're basically saying that a bender is at the ultimate advantage when the battlefield is composed of, or surrounded by their respective element. This is true for all four element. Aang will own people in the air, Toph owns on dry land, Fire benders own in a fire pit, and a water bender owns at the northpole. Makes sense.
Winterwolf
01-12-2008, 11:31 AM
I think they have done a great job on showing that no one element is stronger than any other, its the bender in question. I just thought that is was a little odd that they have gone into a lot of detail about the other elements (which is really cool) and not so much about air.
True though Aang is the last one and there are no more Airbender to show off unique or elite techniques. I was kind of hoping they would do this at some point this season maybe as a flash back episode or something (still could I guess). Oh well still a great show. :)
literally exaggerated
01-12-2008, 11:44 AM
Didn't you see the last episode? Fire is far more than destruction. Aang said it himself "Fire is life!" It's energy. With all the colors there was also some photo/thermo-kinesis. Hell, Azula can shoot lightining from her figer tips. May be able to power a city block too. Firebending is far more than just lighting stuff on fire. I think you can use firebending to amp your physical abilities too by augmenting the bio electricity that's in the body. I think Iroh did that to become He-Man.
I did see the last episode. Iroh, Zuko, Aang and the Sun Warriors are the only people alive who are aware of/care about firebending's true nature.
Jyeong Jyeong himself hated firebending because he was a good, moral person like Iroh but never discovered its true nature and was forced to practice the corrupted, purely destructive firebending the fire nation practices. Azula maybe could theoretically power a city block, if fire nation tech had discovered electricity (in a technological way, not in a shoot lightning bolts at people way) and if she was so inclined, but thus far the fire nation haven't invented anything that wasn't a means to killing or conquering more people, and Azula hasn't displayed any inclincation to do anything but kill and conquer. Fire Nation firebending is the dark side, basically, operating only on rage and hatred rather than the full spectrum of emotions. Its very nature drives even good people to focus purely on their worst emotions, which perhaps explains why every firebender we've met besides Iroh has been seriously messed up in the head if not outright evil. Pure firebending may allow for more expansive possiblities, but so far the only times we've seen firebenders making things better for themselves in a way that didn't fairly directly involve making things worse for others (generally in a pretty immediate fashion) have been warming themselves up, or in Iroh's case warming up his tea. There may be good firebending out there that allows for lightbending or electrokinesis or something, but without having seen it, and having only see then "blow shit up" form of firebending, I'll pass. Give me water, which I know for a fact will allow me hyrdo- and cryo-kinesis, seafaring mobility and the power to heal others. Or earthbending, which allows me to turn the land around me into any shape I desire (plus at high levels to sense vibrations and bend metal). Or yes, even air, which may offer limited asskicking possibilities but allows me to fly, sail, or run at superspeeds anywhere I could possibly want to go.
cappa donna
01-12-2008, 02:23 PM
I did see the last episode. Iroh, Zuko, Aang and the Sun Warriors are the only people alive who are aware of/care about firebending's true nature.
Jyeong Jyeong himself hated firebending because he was a good, moral person like Iroh but never discovered its true nature and was forced to practice the corrupted, purely destructive firebending the fire nation practices. Azula maybe could theoretically power a city block, if fire nation tech had discovered electricity (in a technological way, not in a shoot lightning bolts at people way) and if she was so inclined, but thus far the fire nation haven't invented anything that wasn't a means to killing or conquering more people, and Azula hasn't displayed any inclincation to do anything but kill and conquer. Fire Nation firebending is the dark side, basically, operating only on rage and hatred rather than the full spectrum of emotions. Its very nature drives even good people to focus purely on their worst emotions, which perhaps explains why every firebender we've met besides Iroh has been seriously messed up in the head if not outright evil. Pure firebending may allow for more expansive possiblities, but so far the only times we've seen firebenders making things better for themselves in a way that didn't fairly directly involve making things worse for others (generally in a pretty immediate fashion) have been warming themselves up, or in Iroh's case warming up his tea. There may be good firebending out there that allows for lightbending or electrokinesis or something, but without having seen it, and having only see then "blow shit up" form of firebending, I'll pass. Give me water, which I know for a fact will allow me hyrdo- and cryo-kinesis, seafaring mobility and the power to heal others. Or earthbending, which allows me to turn the land around me into any shape I desire (plus at high levels to sense vibrations and bend metal). Or yes, even air, which may offer limited asskicking possibilities but allows me to fly, sail, or run at superspeeds anywhere I could possibly want to go.
Ummm...you're a racist.
lonewolf23k
01-12-2008, 02:50 PM
Ummm...you're a racist.
Okay, now you're really trolling. If that is honestly the best response you can think of to that last comment, you'd have been better off just keeping quiet.
cappa donna
01-12-2008, 04:49 PM
Okay, now you're really trolling. If that is honestly the best response you can think of to that last comment, you'd have been better off just keeping quiet.
What do you mean by "trolling"? Do you disagree with me?
literally exaggerated
01-12-2008, 05:08 PM
This argument has taken a sharp turn to the ridiculous. The Fire Nation are not real, and even if they were my favorite characters are Zuko and Iroh, and I have defended the fire nation as often as I've attacked them on this board. Moreover, my arguments were fully founded in the text, rather than ad hominem attacks. If you want to debate my interpretation of fire nation culture and firebending by presenting your own reading of canon, do so. But I have no interest in being accused of racism, especially in a discussion about a fictional society from a children's cartoon.
cappa donna
01-12-2008, 05:17 PM
This argument has taken a sharp turn to the ridiculous. The Fire Nation are not real, and even if they were my favorite characters are Zuko and Iroh, and I have defended the fire nation as often as I've attacked them on this board. Moreover, my arguments were fully founded in the text, rather than ad hominem attacks. If you want to debate my interpretation of fire nation culture and firebending by presenting your own reading of canon, do so. But I have no interest in being accused of racism, especially in a discussion about a fictional society from a children's cartoon.
Well I was just making a joke, but lonewolf took all the fun out of it. :( I like your posts because they're thoughful and typically objective. Since I didn't really disagree I just made a comical (and what I figured would be harmless) intepretation of your post for the sake of defending my favorite nation. However, they haven't gone beyond "imma blow your ass up" depiction of firebending in the show, but the last episode at least uncovered some broader implications of what amounts to "energybending" as they literally manipulate ambient (electrons, heat, photons?) so it COULD BE much more in the hands of the right person. Once Iroh starts displaying what the dragons taught him, I hope we'll see more.
literally exaggerated
01-12-2008, 05:36 PM
sorry, i completely missed that. yet another reminder of the need for a sarcasm font
lonewolf23k
01-12-2008, 05:45 PM
What do you mean by "trolling"? Do you disagree with me?
Your best argument against the established Evil nature of Firebending culture, as it exists under the reign of Sozen's heirs is, "you're racist". That's pretty weak, and downright offensive.
As for the idea of using electrokinesis and other such advanced energy sciences.. We're talking about a world that's barely entered the Steam Age here. I think sophisticated electrical science is a bit outside their mental paradigm right now.
shades of eternity
01-14-2008, 06:27 PM
is it just me or is katara becoming like hana this season?
nice, but scarry and possibly borderline psychotic
during this first season she's
1. chewed out her father
2. got into a serious squabble with toph.
3. blood bended
4. and pretty much told zuko that he steps out of line, he's toast (and had a very similar face to hanna in the process).
discuss?
Wjowski
01-14-2008, 09:06 PM
....I think you're taking those incidents just a tad out of context.
literally exaggerated
01-14-2008, 11:03 PM
of the things you listed, only the last two were in any way extraordinary for a teenage girl, and both of those were the result of extenuating circumstances. (in one case to save her friend's life, in the other reacting to someone who has repeatedly tried to kill/capture her and her friends). I agree that Katara is somewhat darker, but psychotic is pushing it a tad far.
cappa donna
01-15-2008, 08:17 PM
is it just me or is katara becoming like hana this season?
nice, but scarry and possibly borderline psychotic
during this first season she's
1. chewed out her father
2. got into a serious squabble with toph.
3. blood bended
4. and pretty much told zuko that he steps out of line, he's toast (and had a very similar face to hanna in the process).
discuss?
Katara's just a terrible person. But this is nothing new.
Ghost
01-16-2008, 12:37 AM
is it just me or is katara becoming like hana this season?
nice, but scarry and possibly borderline psychotic
during this first season she's
1. chewed out her father
2. got into a serious squabble with toph.
3. blood bended
4. and pretty much told zuko that he steps out of line, he's toast (and had a very similar face to hanna in the process).
discuss?
Well, she has a personality that easily clashes with others. She's passionate, hot tempered and over-all pretty confrontational. She and Toph have pretty much been set up as opposites, which is why they don't always get along despite being friends.
The blood bending thing was something she was basically forced into doing. It doesn't make her as twisted as Hama.
And as for Zuko, she does have valid reasons to hate his guts and mistrust him, so it's only natural she'd like to keep him in line. Don't forget that she is an experienced warrior and quite capable of violence if she deems it necessary. That doesn't mean she's a psycho.
Seriously. If that threat had come from, say, Sokka, we'd all been commenting what a manly badass he's become. :rolleyes:
Wjowski
01-16-2008, 11:00 AM
Whoops, my mistake.
Wjowski
01-16-2008, 11:06 AM
Seriously...she's not even my favorite character on the show and I can still see how absurdly exaggerated most of this is.
comicfreak
01-23-2008, 01:22 PM
So, does anyone know, when there will be a new episode? I can't wait to see, how the story will continue.
Eliseu Gouveia
01-23-2008, 01:45 PM
Well, she has a personality that easily clashes with others. She's passionate, hot tempered and over-all pretty confrontational. She and Toph have pretty much been set up as opposites, which is why they don't always get along despite being friends.
The blood bending thing was something she was basically forced into doing. It doesn't make her as twisted as Hama.
And as for Zuko, she does have valid reasons to hate his guts and mistrust him, so it's only natural she'd like to keep him in line. Don't forget that she is an experienced warrior and quite capable of violence if she deems it necessary. That doesn't mean she's a psycho.
Seriously. If that threat had come from, say, Sokka, we'd all been commenting what a manly badass he's become. :rolleyes:
Quoted for truth.
You guys are blowing this well outta proportion.
Zuko´s been after the Gaang since the series began.
Have you forgotten he was THE BAD GUY?
What, he gets a free pass because he´s pretty and conflicted?
Suddenly shows up and everything´s fine, kisses and XO XO for everyone, no resentment for past deeds?
That´s very reallistic... :rolleyes:
I LIKE the fact that she threatned him.
I like the fact that she hasn´t forgotten what they´ve been through for the last 2 seasons, in no small measure thanks to him. Invading the Water Tribe village, setting Kyoshi on fire, pursuing them, trying to kill them,hiring people to kill them ....
if I were in their shoes, I´d probably do the same.
Oh, hell..... "threaten him"?
I´d bash his head in.
Eliseu Gouveia
01-23-2008, 02:00 PM
Actualy, scratch that.
We know someone had to keep a grudge, the whole Gaang couldn´t just embrace him because it´d feel contrived.
Aang is the ultimate hippy, so it couldn´t be him.
Sokka is too cool to hold grudges.
So we were left with Katara and Toph.
Now IMHO, knowing Katara as well as I do, I think she would carry on a bit of a resentment due to past deeds instead of just opening up.
but I don´t think she´d be the one making the threat.
No, I think that was TOPH´s job!.
Her letting bygones be bygones just because he´s telling the truth seems WAY outta character.
And my ten bucks say that if she had done the threatning, nobody would be here saying "- Toph is such a b%&$!"
It´d be more like "-Whoa, Toph is badass, man! Hardcore! Wop!"
Dark Soul # 7
01-23-2008, 02:12 PM
Seriously. If that threat had come from, say, Sokka, we'd all been commenting what a manly badass he's become. :rolleyes:I'd actually worry about Sokka becoming too dark if he had done it.
Katara on the other hand became a lot more interesting with that threat.
jadehorde
01-23-2008, 02:18 PM
Katara's just a terrible person. But this is nothing new.
I find this comment amusing given who you have a fan crush for.
SAMAS
01-23-2008, 09:49 PM
is it just me or is katara becoming like hana this season?
nice, but scarry and possibly borderline psychotic
during this first season she's
1. chewed out her father
He abandoned the two of them for years. Even though she knew he had good reasons to do so, she had to let it out. She said as much to him in that episode.
2. got into a serious squabble with toph.
Their personalities clash easy. Re: "The Chase".
3. blood bended
Under duress, and doesn't want to do so ever again.
4. and pretty much told zuko that he steps out of line, he's toast (and had a very similar face to hanna in the process).
Because they have a lot riding on Aang learning Firebending, she cares for Aang a lot, and she's been burned, all but literally, by Zuko before. Plus, his long history of trying to imprison Aang (again, somebody she cares deeply for).
Her letting bygones be bygones just because he´s telling the truth seems WAY outta character.Toph can hold a grudge... but she never had one against Zuko in the first place. She'd only met Zuko what... twice? And he'd only fought against them one of those times.
Len Ikari145
01-24-2008, 05:30 AM
Toph can hold a grudge... but she never had one against Zuko in the first place. She'd only met Zuko what... twice? And he'd only fought against them one of those times.
People also seem to forget that Toph holds Iroh and his opinions in high regard(which say a lot since this *is* Toph we're talking about). Since Iroh believes in Zuko's capacity to be good and doesn't have same complicated history with Zuko as her other friends, it *does* stand to reason that she would be the only other person besides Aang who would willing to give him the benefit of a doubt. So, it's really not out of character for her.
The only thing I found odd is that she didn't pay him back yet for burning her feet.
Ghost
01-24-2008, 06:13 AM
Actualy, scratch that.
We know someone had to keep a grudge, the whole Gaang couldnīt just embrace him because itīd feel contrived.
Aang is the ultimate hippy, so it couldnīt be him.
Sokka is too cool to hold grudges.
So we were left with Katara and Toph.
Now IMHO, knowing Katara as well as I do, I think she would carry on a bit of a resentment due to past deeds instead of just opening up.
but I donīt think sheīd be the one making the threat.
No, I think that was TOPHīs job!.
Her letting bygones be bygones just because heīs telling the truth seems WAY outta character.
And my ten bucks say that if she had done the threatning, nobody would be here saying "- Toph is such a b%&$!"
Itīd be more like "-Whoa, Toph is badass, man! Hardcore! Wop!"
Quite possibly. Problem is, Toph doesn't really have much history with Zuko. She likely just knows what the rest of them have told her about him, and there's a big difference between hearing about this guy who chased your friends all across the world, and actually getting chased by said guy yourself.
I'd actually worry about Sokka becoming too dark if he had done it.
I dunno. Remember how he reacted to Azula bringing up Suki? Or when Aang burned Katara's hands? He's carefree and lovable most of the time but push him too far and he can suddenly get very serious.
People also seem to forget that Toph holds Iroh and his opinions in high regard(which say a lot since this *is* Toph we're talking about). Since Iroh believes in Zuko's capacity to be good and doesn't have same complicated history with Zuko as her other friends, it *does* stand to reason that she would be the only other person besides Aang who would willing to give him the benefit of a doubt. So, it's really not out of character for her.
What he said.
The only thing I found odd is that she didn't pay him back yet for burning her feet.
She's probably just biding her time. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmykfAsrdHc) :p
Dark Soul # 7
01-24-2008, 08:52 AM
I dunno. Remember how he reacted to Azula bringing up Suki? Or when Aang burned Katara's hands? He's carefree and lovable most of the time but push him too far and he can suddenly get very serious.True, but there's a difference between very serious and dark.
I don't think that he would've had the guts to for example kill Azula when she was taunting him, no matter what he said.
Katara on the other hand seems ready to kill Zuko.
She's probably just biding her time. I was hoping that was a link to Aang talking about Toph teaching him to wait for the right moment to strike.
heretic
01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
True, but there's a difference between very serious and dark.
I don't think that he would've had the guts to for example kill Azula when she was taunting him, no matter what he said.
Katara on the other hand seems ready to kill Zuko.Zuko had her three-quarters convinced he was sorry for all that he had done.
Then he threw in with Azula during a fight which led to Aang getting a lightining bolt put into his back.
Given her feelings for Aang, that level of betrayal is a step above being a vicious enemy.
HTG
Eliseu Gouveia
01-25-2008, 12:03 PM
Zuko had her three-quarters convinced he was sorry for all that he had done.
Then he threw in with Azula during a fight which led to Aang getting a lightining bolt put into his back.
Given her feelings for Aang, that level of betrayal is a step above being a vicious enemy.
HTG
Yeah, after Zuko´s betrayal at the end of season 2, I´m not surprised the least if she goes the rest of her life waiting for his other shoe to drop.
I mean, she came_this_close_ to buying his act and actualy using that special water to heal his scar.
"Hell hath no fury"
Dark Soul # 7
01-25-2008, 02:43 PM
Zuko had her three-quarters convinced he was sorry for all that he had done.
Then he threw in with Azula during a fight which led to Aang getting a lightining bolt put into his back.
Given her feelings for Aang, that level of betrayal is a step above being a vicious enemy.
HTGOf course, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with Katara being suspiscious of Zuko, or even threatning him.
I was just pointing out how it was more darker than anything Sokka has done so far, and that Katara is ready to kill while Sokka doesn't really seem to have reached that point yet.
Eliseu Gouveia
01-25-2008, 03:18 PM
Of course, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with Katara being suspiscious of Zuko, or even threatning him.
I was just pointing out how it was more darker than anything Sokka has done so far, and that Katara is ready to kill while Sokka doesn't really seem to have reached that point yet.
I think that matches her personality.
For some reason, people think of Katara as this bidimentional cardboard-cut cudly goodie-two-shoes, so theyīre caught by surprise when she pulls something like that.
Like every other character in this show, thereīs more than one side to Katara, itīs just that in her case everythingīs more subdued..
She is lovable, nurturing, cute, kind and motherly yes, but the other side of being motherly is that you donīt mess with a momīs cubs.
As we saw in other instances (like her willingness to use bloodbending even though she hates it), Katara is very protective of her own and will do what it takes to shield them from harm.
Eliseu Gouveia
01-31-2008, 01:46 PM
Sorry for asking this again, but this thread is 100 pages long...
Januaryīs almost over, when does the new episode air?
Sorry for asking this again, but this thread is 100 pages long...
Januaryīs almost over, when does the new episode air?
Oh, they meant January 2009.
Ghost
02-01-2008, 06:50 AM
Of course, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with Katara being suspiscious of Zuko, or even threatning him.
I was just pointing out how it was more darker than anything Sokka has done so far, and that Katara is ready to kill while Sokka doesn't really seem to have reached that point yet.
To be fair, Sokka is the guy who swings around sharp things in battle. Not just the sword, but that machete, and the spear he tried to shank Zuko with, and heck, even the trusted boomerang has an edge.
And do consider that their world has been in a state of warfare for 100 years by now, and that they are considered tested warriors even through they're young.
I'm not saying these kids are coldblooded cutthroats, but I think they all have a realistic idea of how far they might have to go if the situation calls for it.
Sorry for asking this again, but this thread is 100 pages long...
January´s almost over, when does the new episode air?
Oh, they meant January 2009.
I've been wondering for a while now, but how can they not have a set, regular schedule for these things? Isn't that incredibly unprofessional?
SAMAS
02-01-2008, 07:37 AM
I think it is, and it's just as bad as the treatment CN gave Justice League Unlimited.
heretic
02-01-2008, 08:45 AM
I think it is, and it's just as bad as the treatment CN gave Justice League Unlimited.I hope the DVD releases are not yolked to the programming people....
HTG
Antonio B.
02-01-2008, 02:10 PM
I live in NYS Long Island to be exact and what they have been doing is this. I DVR Avatar and last week it was suppose to come on but Sponge Bob aired in it's place. It was scheduled this week but nothing is showing up. The next air date is Feb 8th 2008. Here's hoping.
Preus
02-01-2008, 02:37 PM
I think that I've missed a few episodes so what were the two last episodes to air & what happened in them?
Estrecca
02-01-2008, 07:27 PM
I think that I've missed a few episodes so what were the two last episodes to air & what happened in them?
SPOILERS FOLLOW:
Western Air Temple.
As the name implies, the gang visits the last Airbending temple that becomes their new base of operations. Zuko shows up and offers to teach Aang firebending, but they are going to kick him out until Combustion Man shows up and Zuko helps save the day.
Firebending Masters
Zuko is having trouble with his bending and eventually decides to take Aang in a trip to the ruins of an old civilization (the original firebenders) that had a more calm style, less focused in the destructive effects of fire. Turns out that the civilization is not quite extinct and Aang and Zuko must be judged by the Firebending Masters (the last two surviving dragons) to decide whether they are worthy of learning the ancient style (and living, too). Turns out that Iroh knew about the place and the dragons and Zuko gets mocked because his new style is called "Dancing Dragon".
SAMAS
02-02-2008, 05:32 AM
Actually, you haven't missed them. Nick is being a bunch of idiots, and seems to want to save every possible episode for specials or something. They haven't aired at all in the US.
SAMAS
02-02-2008, 05:33 AM
I hope the DVD releases are not yolked to the programming people....
HTG
They're not. I was in a Fry's about a week ago, and they're already got the first Season 3 episodes on the shelf.
That's how long Nick has dragged this shit out. The episodes they've shown us have already been released on DVD. :evilangry
Winterwolf
02-02-2008, 03:47 PM
They're not. I was in a Fry's about a week ago, and they're already got the first Season 3 episodes on the shelf.
That's how long Nick has dragged this shit out. The episodes they've shown us have already been released on DVD. :evilangry
Why are they doing this? Have they given a reason why they are holding back one of there highest rated shows?
SAMAS
02-02-2008, 05:19 PM
The first (arguably) sensible reason I can think of is that there's an executive in the company in charge of scheduling that doesn't like the show for whatever reason (it happens).
The other is some misguided attempt to stretch out the demand for the series.
Ragnorok64
02-02-2008, 05:24 PM
Do we know for sure that there are episodes completed and just sitting around aging, or has production been slowed or something?
Bakasama
02-02-2008, 06:40 PM
According to one of the staff who works on Avatar, all the animation is finished. The postproduction on the final episodes should be done by now. It should be noted that the staff do not have an idea when these episodes are going to air.
I just blame the programming staff and their strange notions on airing first run episodes. I mean scheduling for new episodes in the past made a lot more sense than now.
Tusko
02-06-2008, 09:22 AM
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Avatar-Airbender-Season-3-Volume-3/8831
So: what is Boiling Rock 1&2 about?
Can't wait for May!
The DVDs split up Day of Black Sun? Lame.
Boiling Rock = epic two part duel between Toph and Zuko, obviously.
LtMarvel
02-06-2008, 09:36 AM
So Nick has a May 6th deadline to air the rest of the episodes on the disk.
Dark Soul # 7
02-06-2008, 09:50 AM
Boiling Rock = epic two part duel between Toph and Zuko, obviously.That's probably not it, but it would be awesome.
If heard rumors that the Boiling Rock is another one of Iroh's nicknames.
Tusko
02-06-2008, 11:26 AM
That's probably not it, but it would be awesome.
If heard rumors that the Boiling Rock is another one of Iroh's nicknames.
Boiling Rock: Poor man's tea. The Iroh story.;)
That's probably not it, but it would be awesome.
If heard rumors that the Boiling Rock is another one of Iroh's nicknames.
I don't think it would be a great idea to introduce a new nickname for Iroh at this point. Seems too close to the end. Which is not to say that it might not be the case, just that I don't like the idea. Comes too soon after the whole Dragon thing.
I did think that maybe it will be related to Aang learning to use all the elements together, since "Boiling Rock" can be interpreted as including heat, liquid, vapour and earth. Not that I think it's actually that either, though.
Eliseu Gouveia
02-06-2008, 01:00 PM
Sounds like a name Sokka would come up with.
Bakasama
02-06-2008, 03:21 PM
I do remember that during the Comic Con, the staff mentioned a boiling lake in an upcoming episode. Also, I think this boiling lake might be connected to Hama's prison.
Winterwolf
02-06-2008, 07:31 PM
Maybe its a referance to the comet landing in a lake??
Bakasama
02-06-2008, 07:56 PM
The last four episodes of Avatar most likely deal the the comet. This episode is after "Firebending Masters". It's been speculated that there's an island in the middle of the boiling lake. One would think that it would be a good place to put a prison there. I think this could have been the prison that Hama was held at when she was younger. There better be some Iroh action in this episode.
Tusko
02-07-2008, 07:45 AM
Sorry but, who is Hama?
Eliseu Gouveia
02-07-2008, 08:22 AM
Sorry but, who is Hama?
http://thumbnail.search.aolcdn.com/aais/EMI/media/mchammer/0094631039058.jpg
SAMAS
02-07-2008, 02:03 PM
I guess he walked right into that one, huh?
Ragnorok64
02-07-2008, 02:08 PM
That was priceless. :D
Tusko
02-07-2008, 02:17 PM
you all make me cry :(
Although parachute pants and an airbender might make for an interesting gag.
shades of eternity
02-16-2008, 03:09 PM
another crazy idea
After the firebending masters, I'm wondering if irohnomics is partly based on firebending.
Basically focusing on the internal fire to help develop the body.
my question is this form of internal firebending help counter bloodbending?
cappa donna
02-16-2008, 08:13 PM
Bloodbending should be stronger but it would be an effectively at least temporarily, unless they have "ki" in Avatar then Firebending wins.
Winterwolf
03-03-2008, 04:48 PM
Anybody else going through Avatar withdrawls yet?
Ragnorok64
03-03-2008, 04:54 PM
Where is this show?
Eliseu Gouveia
03-03-2008, 05:21 PM
Anybody else going through Avatar withdrawls yet?
Do you think Nicklodeon execs have a ritual of spitting at photos of viewers before they start their day?
Wjowski
03-03-2008, 09:45 PM
Watching all the insane rumors about the delays flying around is...almost as entertaining as the show itself.
Winterwolf
03-05-2008, 02:29 PM
Is there even a date set for the next episode?? I have heard NOTHING for over a month. Whats Nik thinking or planning?
Eliseu Gouveia
03-05-2008, 03:05 PM
I gave up on the next episodes, Iīm just waiting for the DVD boxset to fall from the sky, hopefuly before the decadeīs over.
Vaiyt
03-07-2008, 12:47 PM
Hah! Book 3 is finally out in Brazil since Monday. As far as things go, it seems we'll get to see the final chapters sooner than the US.
Eliseu Gouveia
03-07-2008, 01:20 PM
Hah! Book 3 is finally out in Brazil since Monday. As far as things go, it seems we'll get to see the final chapters sooner than the US.
Sortudos! :)
Winterwolf
03-08-2008, 09:43 AM
I just don't understand why the show is on Hiatus(sp) though. We got a few episodes, than a long break, a few more episodes, now nothing, not even a date on when they will start airing again.
I think this is even worse than the long break they took i the middle of Season 2.
Quilt
03-08-2008, 10:48 AM
Networks have been pulling this kind of garbage for so long now. I hate it. A few episodes followed by a long hiatus. I don't get it. It just turns people off the show, because they either forget about it or decide not to put up with it and stop watching altogether.
I love this show. I want to see more episodes, but I'm finding it easier and easier to forget about it. I can barely remember what happened in the last episode. Aang and whats-his-name did some fire dance or something? What a note to end on. Uhg...I can't even remember any of the characters names.
heretic
03-10-2008, 01:37 PM
Networks have been pulling this kind of garbage for so long now. I hate it. A few episodes followed by a long hiatus. I don't get it. It just turns people off the show, because they either forget about it or decide not to put up with it and stop watching altogether.
I love this show. I want to see more episodes, but I'm finding it easier and easier to forget about it. I can barely remember what happened in the last episode. Aang and whats-his-name did some fire dance or something? What a note to end on. Uhg...I can't even remember any of the characters names.
There is a reason I cough up the cash for the DVDs.
HTG
Winterwolf
03-10-2008, 02:35 PM
Don't networks usually do things like "Blah Blah Blah April xx the new episodes of AVATAR START!!!!"? I havn't even seen promotion really even for the DVDs and what not.
ImpulseUCF
03-10-2008, 02:54 PM
Is there a link to any news, rumors, etc? I went through withdrawl HARD for a while, but now I just want some answers.
Saturius
03-12-2008, 05:41 PM
Is there a link to any news, rumors, etc? I went through withdrawl HARD for a while, but now I just want some answers.
The 3rd Volume of the Avatar season 3 set has been confirmed with a release date of May 6th, so the show has to air the episode before then. With 5 episodes on a disc the new episodes have to air at the latest around April 11th to squeeze in those 5 new episodes before the DVD releases.
Winterwolf
03-12-2008, 08:14 PM
The 3rd Volume of the Avatar season 3 set has been confirmed with a release date of May 6th, so the show has to air the episode before then. With 5 episodes on a disc the new episodes have to air at the latest around April 11th to squeeze in those 5 new episodes before the DVD releases.
Well I guess thats better than nothing...:)
Ragnorok64
03-13-2008, 06:22 AM
When are sweeps?
ddqfpluskick
03-13-2008, 06:56 AM
I think the last week of March we'll see a new episode. If it went later than that the series would run into June and Nickelodean (network it aris on in the US) starts to change for it's summer bolck around the end of May.
The Cool Thatguy
03-14-2008, 12:49 PM
Who owns Avatar? I remember that Cartoon Network kept dicking around with JLU because they only go money from the ads and nothin' else.
Wjowski
03-14-2008, 05:06 PM
It's seriously starting to look like someone upstairs doesn't like the show.
The Cool Thatguy
03-14-2008, 07:15 PM
How many books are there going to be, does anyone know?
Vaiyt
03-14-2008, 07:43 PM
Saw the bloodbending episode last day. Scary. Waterbending just broke the badass scale with that one.
lonewolf23k
03-14-2008, 09:42 PM
Saw the bloodbending episode last day. Scary. Waterbending just broke the badass scale with that one.
Indeed it did. And y'know, as much as Katara doesn't want to use it again, I'm pretty sure Bloodbending will turn up again at some point. The Chekov's Gun rule of drama pretty much demands it.
Vaiyt
03-20-2008, 12:48 AM
*all glass objects nearby shatter as Vaiyt does his best Anakin Skywalker impression* NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Avatar went back to reruns here .__.;
I'm hoping it doesn't mean we'll have to wait until hell freezes over to see the next episodes...
Bakasama
03-20-2008, 12:16 PM
Indeed it did. And y'know, as much as Katara doesn't want to use it again, I'm pretty sure Bloodbending will turn up again at some point. The Chekov's Gun rule of drama pretty much demands it.
Yeah but there's one small detail people tend to forget. It can only be used during a full moon. Unless the Avatar shows another source of power that doesn't break the rules, I don't think we're going to see that again.
Then again the show does keep pounding the theme that "the separation of the elements" is an illusion. So if that statement is true, Iroh and the Guru more or less state it. So it maybe possible for Katara to have full water bending or to bloodbend in daylight but she just realize that there's another source of power she can draw than the moon. Strangely enough, that ALSO works for Zuko, Aang, and Toph.
Len Ikari145
03-20-2008, 01:40 PM
How many books are there going to be, does anyone know?
The creators stated several times that there will only be three books about dealing with the current storyline and cast of characters, so the Book of Fire is the series' finale.
They said they plan on expanding on other aspects of the Avatar Universe, but this is it for Aang and crew.
Wild Card13
03-20-2008, 03:38 PM
Yeah but there's one small detail people tend to forget. It can only be used during a full moon. Unless the Avatar shows another source of power that doesn't break the rules, I don't think we're going to see that again.
Then again the show does keep pounding the theme that "the separation of the elements" is an illusion. So if that statement is true, Iroh and the Guru more or less state it. So it maybe possible for Katara to have full water bending or to bloodbend in daylight but she just realize that there's another source of power she can draw than the moon. Strangely enough, that ALSO works for Zuko, Aang, and Toph.
Actually, if you notice, the moon has been full in almost every episode of Book Three up til now. Makes you wonder if Yue's really out of the game, doesn't it?
Young Avenger
03-20-2008, 05:04 PM
I got my hopes up for nothing. When I saw this thread was active again I thought that Nick was running new episodes again. :(
Bakasama
03-20-2008, 05:40 PM
Actually, if you notice, the moon has been full in almost every episode of Book Three up til now. Makes you wonder if Yue's really out of the game, doesn't it?
Well, it could be just a mistake like the whole world being in winter in book I. Still, I'm trying argue that "What if the Katara only drawing bending power from the moon is actually a well crafted illusion"?
LordKaos
04-01-2008, 10:00 AM
So why aren't there anymore new episodes?
Eliseu Gouveia
04-01-2008, 10:58 AM
Hm? Whu-what?
What year is this?
2008... still no 3rd season episodes.... wake me up in 2010.
<- goes back to hypersleep
LtMarvel
04-01-2008, 02:13 PM
Someone posted (and I can't confirm) on the Avatar boards that new episodes begin this Friday!.
Ragnorok64
04-01-2008, 02:31 PM
Someone posted (and I can't confirm) on the Avatar boards that new episodes begin this Friday!.
Please do remember what day it is today before reacting to any news.
Eliseu Gouveia
04-01-2008, 03:46 PM
Please do remember what day it is today before reacting to any news.
Curses!
You beat me to it. ;)
Winterwolf
04-01-2008, 06:01 PM
All my hopes dashed away...again :(
LtMarvel
04-01-2008, 09:56 PM
Please do remember what day it is today before reacting to any news.
Ah, except is posted last week, not today.
Evil Sneak
04-07-2008, 08:45 AM
So did a new episode air?
Winterwolf
04-07-2008, 08:52 AM
So did a new episode air?
I on't think so, I heard the end of March "Boiling Rock" will air...:eek:
comicfreak
04-07-2008, 01:18 PM
End of March? Or end of April? Or any end of a month?
Heck, how long has it been, since the last episode aired? Too long!
sun tzu
04-07-2008, 03:17 PM
Started watching the whole thing. I was all "daaamn" after the "Zuko Alone" episode...Just finished watching "Bitter Chase".
Now that's a well-executed woobie.
Eliseu Gouveia
04-07-2008, 07:11 PM
I still think itīs the zen undertones of the show that are harming it, Iīm very convinced that someone in high ranks has a chip on the shoulder regarding the religious aspect of the show and is deliberately trying to smother it.
Winterwolf
04-08-2008, 05:40 AM
End of March? Or end of April? Or any end of a month?
Heck, how long has it been, since the last episode aired? Too long!
Who knows, you would think that either Nick or the Avatar makers would have said something...anything by now. Even something like "Hey guys sorry for the delays we had a few problems etc etc." That would please me greatly.
Way better than just plain silence.:evilangry:
comicfreak
04-08-2008, 01:23 PM
You know, somehow I cannot shake the feeling, that Nick just doesn't give a damn about us fans.
yeoman
04-08-2008, 01:56 PM
I still think itīs the zen undertones of the show that are harming it, Iīm very convinced that someone in high ranks has a chip on the shoulder regarding the religious aspect of the show and is deliberately trying to smother it.
Nah. Nick just sometimes does this. Look at Invader Zim.
Could be an attempt to kill the show so they won't *have* to make more seasons after 3. I can't figure out why, but, then, I can't figure out why they decided to make a show that didn't fit their target audience, and then cancel it because it didn't fit their target audience.
yeoman
04-08-2008, 01:58 PM
You know, somehow I cannot shake the feeling, that Nick just doesn't give a damn about us fans.
That's because they don't. Pretty much no network ever does. Remember, the hardcore fans will always be a small minority of any popular show, and, as such, they care nothing about us. Individuals working on the show might, but the network never, ever, will.
Len Ikari145
04-08-2008, 03:43 PM
Nah. Nick just sometimes does this. Look at Invader Zim.
Could be an attempt to kill the show so they won't *have* to make more seasons after 3.
Can't see why when the creators made it explicitly clear several times that they *aren't* going to have any more seasons of Avatar after Fire, movie adaptations and hints of a possible spin-off aside. Especially since they already had the plot planned out before they even animated the show. In a magazine interview not too long ago, it was revealed Nick paid to have 3 more seasons of Avatar animated after Fire, but the creators declined since the show was never meant to go for more than three seasons.
Winterwolf
04-09-2008, 12:02 AM
Can't see why when the creators made it explicitly clear several times that they *aren't* going to have any more seasons of Avatar after Fire, movie adaptations and hints of a possible spin-off aside. Especially since they already had the plot planned out before they even animated the show. In a magazine interview not too long ago, it was revealed Nick paid to have 3 more seasons of Avatar animated after Fire, but the creators declined since the show was never meant to go for more than three seasons.
Still it is a little unusual that not even the creators have bothered to say somthing reguarding the long break between episodes. I know they don't really have a say on when nick decides to air whatever...but I'm sure they know something. Hell there are only a few more episodes left and they are appraently done.
Inkthinker
04-09-2008, 01:11 AM
The series isn't cancelled. New episodes will air when they're ready to air.
Dark Soul # 7
04-09-2008, 02:00 AM
The series isn't cancelled. New episodes will air when they're ready to air.What exactly do you mean by "ready to air"?
I mean, haven't the episodes been finished for a few months now? Shouldn't that make them "ready to air"?
Inkthinker
04-09-2008, 03:42 AM
Not necessarily. There's varying levels of "complete", and there could be any number of reasons to hold episodes in the can... disputes over contracts or dividends would be the one I'd guess first, because they're the sort of thing that wouldn't be publicized. Retakes sent back to the overseas studios, foley issues, post-production snafu, media buy delays, coporate schedule reshuffling, advertising rebids... I haven't even skimmed the surface of crap that gets between creating content and getting it to air.
The series is well-merchandised, popular enough to hold multiple airtime slots on two networks, sells DVDs and (as mentioned) is nearly complete after 3 and a half seasons. Does anyone honestly think that you can compare this to Invader Zim. Don't get me wrong, I thought that show was pretty brilliant, but it was not remotely as popular as this, nor did it have a defined arc... and it still got three full seasons.
Go read a book, guys... take a nap, play some games, get some air. It's like anything you gotta wait for, you shouldn't waste too much time "waiting". It'll get here.
yeoman
04-09-2008, 02:39 PM
Not necessarily. There's varying levels of "complete", and there could be any number of reasons to hold episodes in the can... disputes over contracts or dividends would be the one I'd guess first, because they're the sort of thing that wouldn't be publicized. Retakes sent back to the overseas studios, foley issues, post-production snafu, media buy delays, coporate schedule reshuffling, advertising rebids... I haven't even skimmed the surface of crap that gets between creating content and getting it to air.
Actually, Merchandizing could well be a good reason. Especially if what we're seeing is to be the last block of episodes at all. Push out a bunch of stuff during the last run of episodes and people want to make sure they're stuff is done before those episodes air.
The series is well-merchandised, popular enough to hold multiple airtime slots on two networks, sells DVDs and (as mentioned) is nearly complete after 3 and a half seasons. Does anyone honestly think that you can compare this to Invader Zim. Don't get me wrong, I thought that show was pretty brilliant, but it was not remotely as popular as this, nor did it have a defined arc... and it still got three full seasons.
True. I was just using it of an example of Nick purposefully burying something that wasn't doing poorly.
Saturius
04-09-2008, 04:31 PM
I doubt merchandising has anything to do with it. Avatar actually has very little merchandising compared to other shows. A few subpar videogames, some books and a couple of action figures, but that's it. I know some figures were even canceled because the previous ones weren't selling well. I just don't know what Nick's problem is. But as others have mentioned, Nick usually does this to a lot of their shows. They wait months on end between airings of new episodes. It's all very strange because while Nick is crap at airing the show, they're very quick to put it on DVD in a timely manner, which is HUGE because so many of their classic shows haven't been released on DVD period, and even fewer get season sets like Avatar. I know the creators have said they want to do spin offs of the show but I don't think Nick would be the right channel to continue to do it on.
Wjowski
04-09-2008, 06:06 PM
Not necessarily. There's varying levels of "complete", and there could be any number of reasons to hold episodes in the can... disputes over contracts or dividends would be the one I'd guess first, because they're the sort of thing that wouldn't be publicized. Retakes sent back to the overseas studios, foley issues, post-production snafu, media buy delays, coporate schedule reshuffling, advertising rebids... I haven't even skimmed the surface of crap that gets between creating content and getting it to air.
The series is well-merchandised, popular enough to hold multiple airtime slots on two networks, sells DVDs and (as mentioned) is nearly complete after 3 and a half seasons. Does anyone honestly think that you can compare this to Invader Zim. Don't get me wrong, I thought that show was pretty brilliant, but it was not remotely as popular as this, nor did it have a defined arc... and it still got three full seasons.
Go read a book, guys... take a nap, play some games, get some air. It's like anything you gotta wait for, you shouldn't waste too much time "waiting". It'll get here.
Well...honestly it wouldn't be the first time a high-ranking exec with a chip on his or her shoulder has tried to actively scuttle a popular, well known TV show. I'm not surprised people are worried.
Eliseu Gouveia
04-09-2008, 06:23 PM
Well...honestly it wouldn't be the first time a high-ranking exec with a chip on his or her shoulder has tried to actively scuttle a popular, well known TV show. I'm not surprised people are worried.
I am surprised nobody gets FIRED.
I mean, this IS a business, right? People buy shares to get PROFIT, right?
So why would someone torpedo a popular property that is generating oodles of PROFIT?
Seems very anti-american to me....
I´m sticking with my anti-zen shadowy religious nut exec theory for now.
Wjowski
04-10-2008, 12:12 AM
I am surprised nobody gets FIRED.
I mean, this IS a business, right? People buy shares to get PROFIT, right?
So why would someone torpedo a popular property that is generating oodles of PROFIT?
Seems very anti-american to me....
Iīm sticking with my anti-zen shadowy religious nut exec theory for now.
The 'Executive Meddling' section of TV Tropes is a veritable cornucopia of execs screwing over good shows and/or concepts, oftentimes for seemingly immaterial reasons.
Bakasama
04-10-2008, 03:25 PM
The 'Executive Meddling' section of TV Tropes is a veritable cornucopia of execs screwing over good shows and/or concepts, oftentimes for seemingly immaterial reasons.
I read that part. Oddly enough there was few examples where "Executive Meddling" was actually a good thing. "Batman Beyond" was one of them.
On topic, check this (http://pics.livejournal.com/hlynn/pic/00002h8t) out. I don't where this came from. It appears ad selling commercial time for the Avatar time slot. It appears to give the air date for the last four episodes of Avatar.
ImpulseUCF
04-14-2008, 11:36 AM
It's not right how they get you addicted like heroin to this show, and then stop new episodes without explanation. I'm jonesin for a fix, man! Any news?
S J C
04-16-2008, 03:59 AM
Rufftoon has found out why the eps are late
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/106/a/2/Why_Avatar_episodes_are_late_by_rufftoon.jpg
Dark Soul # 7
04-16-2008, 05:58 AM
Rufftoon has found out why the eps are late
http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/106/a/2/Why_Avatar_episodes_are_late_by_rufftoon.jpg:eek:
CURSE YOU SOKKA!
Eureka, it all makes sense now. Praise be on to Rufftoon!!!
Lol, in the meantime there's been alot of updates on http://avatarspirit.net/
Winterwolf
04-17-2008, 08:29 AM
Eureka, it all makes sense now. Praise be on to Rufftoon!!!
Lol, in the meantime there's been alot of updates on http://avatarspirit.net/
Thanks for the link some new is better than no news.
girder
04-18-2008, 09:55 AM
It's not right how they get you addicted like heroin to this show, and then stop new episodes without explanation. I'm jonesin for a fix, man! Any news?
Sneak preview from Brazil. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VFRMib40l4)
girder
04-18-2008, 10:01 AM
Double post.
Bakasama
04-18-2008, 01:36 PM
I laugh at myself because people think Avatar is showing in Latin America assume "Alright my Spanish is going to help me there".
I find it a little a odd hardly anyone has given any thought on how the Gaang is going to defeat the firenation.
Dark Soul # 7
04-20-2008, 04:09 AM
Set your calenders for July this year people. Because that's when all hell breaks lose.
Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIRF4QrWs6o) from comic con. There's possible Zutara moments in it, if Zutara causes you to vomit blood don't worry about it. It's the natural reaction.:tongue:
FroFroYo
04-20-2008, 08:18 AM
Can't waitttttt.
Ty Lee, yay! Azula lives and looks angry/crazy, yay! That Jun girl with the pet mole is still alive and usable? Yay! Katara looking like a blood bender (at 1:24)? Yay! So much yay! =D
Question: The girl who is fighting the fire nation soldiers, Ty Lee, and Mai in the red-clothes is Suki, right?
Bakasama
04-20-2008, 08:38 AM
THIS (http://www.livevideo.com/video/71EB9790CB5D42A78A650F01402ADA4B/avatar.aspx) may answer your question.
FroFroYo
04-20-2008, 10:25 AM
Sweeeeeeet.
heretic
04-20-2008, 11:27 AM
Set your calenders for July this year people. Because that's when all hell breaks lose.
Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIRF4QrWs6o) from comic con. There's possible Zutara moments in it, if Zutara causes you to vomit blood don't worry about it. It's the natural reaction.:tongue:
Mike and Brian are going to be messing with the Zutarans' heads until the end, aren't they?
HTG (noting that Azula-himechan seems stressed....)
Bakasama
04-20-2008, 11:52 AM
Now while Toph is having good laugh out of this, Sokka said the writer of this play did research by going into the heart of Ba Sing Se, talked to some pirates, prisoners of war, and a knowleagble cabbage merchant. In other words, we'll see Toph get hers in the second part of that play.
Dark Soul # 7
04-20-2008, 01:28 PM
Here's Suki (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98MmL7oYMhw)
I'm loving this.
MKTerra
04-20-2008, 02:22 PM
Now why does that hair look familiar...?
Oh yeah, Danny Phantom fanart.
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3374/dannyphantomfanartoi9.th.jpg (http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dannyphantomfanartoi9.jpg)
Len Ikari145
04-22-2008, 06:18 AM
Mike and Brian are going to be messing with the Zutarans' heads until the end, aren't they?
I've said it before: They are evil, sadistic bastards towards Zutarians. Of course, it's also the Zutarians' fault for falling for the same bait not once, not twice but thrice.
You'd think they'd realize by now they're being jerked around.:rolleyes:
HTG (noting that Azula-himechan seems stressed....)
O_oYeah, creepy....
Kage Kisaragi
04-22-2008, 06:56 AM
So is it may or july for the new episodes?
comicfreak
04-22-2008, 01:48 PM
According to Wikipedia it is July. Nearly half a year after the last episode.
Movie-Brat
04-22-2008, 02:40 PM
The new episodes are to going to kick ass in my opinion. Although, I'm kind of disappointed that Suki lives to be honest. I like Suki and all but I was hoping she would be the third character to die in Avatar.
ImpulseUCF
04-22-2008, 02:51 PM
Whoa, wait, what? Is there a slated death quota or something that I don't know about?
Movie-Brat
04-22-2008, 02:52 PM
Whoa, wait, what? Is there a slated death quota or something that I don't know about?
Yeah, Zhao and Jet died.
ImpulseUCF
04-22-2008, 02:58 PM
Are they expecting anyone else to die, or were you just speculating/lamenting?
Movie-Brat
04-22-2008, 03:00 PM
Are they expecting anyone else to die, or were you just speculating/lamenting?
Speculating. Although there is one prediction I knew I was spot-on. I figured Azula would be the new fire lord.
Ragnorok64
04-22-2008, 03:01 PM
At this point it'd just be speculation. Though considering that they actually do kill characters on this show and they're building to the climax I would not be surprised. I think Iroh would be the most likely candidate. Also Ozai.
Len Ikari145
04-23-2008, 03:28 AM
At this point it'd just be speculation. Though considering that they actually do kill characters on this show and they're building to the climax I would not be surprised. I think Iroh would be the most likely candidate. Also Ozai.
Azula is also a viable candidate to be knocked off. I just can't see her rotting away in a prison cell at this point. Of course, if that happens, her death will probably be off-screen like Jet's.
Azula is also a viable candidate to be knocked off. I just can't see her rotting away in a prison cell at this point. Of course, if that happens, her death will probably be off-screen like Jet's.
Back in season two, when Iroh's lightning redirection was explained, I started to think that Azula would die by attempting to redirect Zuko's lightning and passing it through her heart. But then Aang was nearly killed by her lightning, so I don't know if that would be too similar or not.
cappa donna
04-23-2008, 01:39 PM
THIS (http://www.livevideo.com/video/71EB9790CB5D42A78A650F01402ADA4B/avatar.aspx) may answer your question.
SWEET!!! Perfect characterization of Aang.
And FYI, AZULA WILL NOT DIE!!! No writer is dumb enough to kill off their greatest creation. She should get her own spinoff. Maybe "Azula: Warrior Princess!" Yea, that sounds great! :evilsmile:
Dark Soul # 7
04-23-2008, 02:33 PM
SWEET!!! Perfect characterization of Aang.
And FYI, AZULA WILL NOT DIE!!! No writer is dumb enough to kill off their greatest creation. She should get her own spinoff. Maybe "Azula: Warrior Princess!" Yea, that sounds great! :evilsmile:I always thought that when the fire nation is defeated she could join forces with that face stealing spirit whose name I can't remember.
Bakasama
04-23-2008, 08:20 PM
SWEET!!! Perfect characterization of Aang.
And FYI, AZULA WILL NOT DIE!!! No writer is dumb enough to kill off their greatest creation. She should get her own spinoff. Maybe "Azula: Warrior Princess!" Yea, that sounds great! :evilsmile:
She may not die (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/058.jpg) but there's hints that she might go a little crazy. This (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/069.jpg) is (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/134.jpg) AZULA?! (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/106.jpg)
Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhbVBezdg&eurl=http://www.avatarspirit.net/) the fangirl free version the NYCC trailer. It's SO nice to not to hear the "SQEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Movie-Brat
04-23-2008, 08:23 PM
She may not die (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/058.jpg) but there's hints that she might go a little crazy. This (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/069.jpg) is (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/134.jpg) AZULA?! (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/106.jpg)
She looks awesome when she's crazy. I love crazy, sadistic villains.
Wjowski
04-24-2008, 10:32 AM
THIS (http://www.livevideo.com/video/71EB9790CB5D42A78A650F01402ADA4B/avatar.aspx) may answer your question.
Actor!Aang gives me really creepy Mr. B Natural vibes.
FroFroYo
04-24-2008, 12:48 PM
She may not die (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/058.jpg) but there's hints that she might go a little crazy. This (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/069.jpg) is (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/134.jpg) AZULA?! (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/106.jpg)
Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhbVBezdg&eurl=http://www.avatarspirit.net/) the fangirl free version the NYCC trailer. It's SO nice to not to hear the "SQEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Aw, isn't she precious?
And yay! No screams of joy! =D
SWEET!!! Perfect characterization of Aang.
And FYI, AZULA WILL NOT DIE!!! No writer is dumb enough to kill off their greatest creation. She should get her own spinoff. Maybe "Azula: Warrior Princess!" Yea, that sounds great! :evilsmile:
Sometimes a good death for a character is exactly the right thing to give them.
Cleric of Hell's Brigade
04-24-2008, 04:35 PM
So, when does ''The Boiling Rock'', Part 1 begin?
Len Ikari145
04-24-2008, 06:03 PM
She may not die (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/058.jpg) but there's hints that she might go a little crazy. This (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/069.jpg) is (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/134.jpg) AZULA?! (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/106.jpg)
Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhbVBezdg&eurl=http://www.avatarspirit.net/) the fangirl free version the NYCC trailer. It's SO nice to not to hear the "SQEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
I just noticed, but is that mascara or is Azula actually...crying?
Oh yeah, it's happened. A sure sign to the end of Avatar. Someone's going to die!:eek:
Bakasama
04-24-2008, 08:00 PM
Yeah, I noticed that too. I thought that was bags under her eyes at first. Then I realized she shows signs of losing it, i.e. tears and the messy bangs. I would love to know what causes Azula to lose it. It could be a fight between her and certain relative my cause the madness.
Wjowski
04-24-2008, 08:05 PM
Yeah, I noticed that too. I thought that was bags under her eyes at first. Then I realized she shows signs of losing it, i.e. tears and the messy bangs. I would love to know what causes Azula to lose it. It could be a fight between her and certain relative my cause the madness.
It might just be selective editing...
FroFroYo
04-24-2008, 09:29 PM
Yeah, I noticed that too. I thought that was bags under her eyes at first. Then I realized she shows signs of losing it, i.e. tears and the messy bangs. I would love to know what causes Azula to lose it. It could be a fight between her and certain relative my cause the madness.
Near-death experience?
Repeated failure?
No boyfriend?
Wjowski
04-24-2008, 09:31 PM
Near-death experience?
Repeated failure?
No boyfriend?
Or it might just be an act. I wouldn't put faking tears past her.
Bakasama
04-24-2008, 09:47 PM
I'm pretty sure this is no act:
Azula 1 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/106.jpg)
Azula 2 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/107.jpg)
Azula 3 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/108.jpg)
Azula 4 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/109.jpg)
Azula 5 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/110.jpg)
If you look closely at the mirror, you may remember a certain member of the Royal Family.
Here's pics of the Ember Island Players of Toph (http://dongbufeng.net/media/gallery/albums/NYCC/IMG_0098.JPG),
Azula (http://dongbufeng.net/media/gallery/albums/NYCC/IMG_0109.JPG), Mai (http://dongbufeng.net/media/gallery/albums/NYCC/IMG_0110.JPG), and Ty LeeTy Lee
(h.andttp://dongbufeng.net/media/gallery/albums/NYCC/IMG_0111.JPG).
As a word of warning, these pics are large and some of them might give one the urge to gouge their eyes out.
Wjowski
04-24-2008, 10:01 PM
I'm pretty sure this is no act:
Azula 1 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/106.jpg)
Azula 2 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/107.jpg)
Azula 3 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/108.jpg)
Azula 4 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/109.jpg)
Azula 5 (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/110.jpg)
If you look closely at the mirror, you may remember a certain member of the Royal Family.
I'm not so certain. Ah well, I guess we'll find when they get around to releasing the rest of the episodes (Octember 32nd, 40010).
Saturius
04-26-2008, 06:57 AM
Just wanted to let everyone know that some people got the DVD of Avatar Vol. 3 early and as such the Boiling Rocks episodes 1 and 2 are out there on certain sites. Go out there and watch em. They were pretty good.
FroFroYo
04-26-2008, 09:07 AM
Soooooo worth the wait. =D
I love Ty Leeeeeeeeee.
ImpulseUCF
04-26-2008, 10:15 AM
It's legit!! Woo! :)
AllisterH
04-26-2008, 12:19 PM
It has RETURNED!!! Like a phoenix rising from the ashes, A:TLA, still kicking ass.
WOO-HOO!!! The return of the spoiler space
So, Boiling Rock Pt1 has some good interaction with Zuko and Sokka and I just loved the reintroduction of Suki. Still, this episode was just a setup for the REAL episode, Boiling Rock PT II
Wow...The humour (I cracked up multiple times like when the guard who released the prisoners, sneaked away or the riot instigator), the action, the drama. THIS is why I loved Avatar.
What can I say, Mei (and Ty Lee) have chosen sides. So how long before Zuko finds out and tries a desperate rescue attempt?
I wonder though how this affect the Lin family (not only is her uncle the warden of the jail, but her father was the instilled leader of New Ozai)
Suki has gotten better (obviously, the Fire Nation treats its prisoners pretty well if Suki could perform those acrobatics) and was the first time I've seen anyone not get one-shotted by Ty Lee. I would've loved to see a longer fight to see what happens when Ty Lee truly gets serious since looking at her expression when she and Azula were going down on the other gondola, I don't think she was giving her all.
However, Ty Lee is still in a class by herself. I mean, seriously, does gravity mean nothing to Ty Lee or did she get some blood infusion from Spiderman? (I'm not even sure Nightwing or Daredevil could do that - walk, certainly, but actually RUN full-tilt?) and choosing to side with Mei? You could see even Mei was stunned when Ty Lee put the whammy on Azula.
I think this was the first episode where we actually saw Azula rattled. Mark my words, just a couple days earlier we were discussing the teaser pictures of a "crazy" looking Azula and if that is truth, THIS episode is where the fault line began.
Azula honestly thought she has both Mei and Ty under her control and that they were extensions of her will but to be SO wrong? OUCH, she's going to be questioning every thing now and just after she bragged about being a people person.
"I guess I love Zuko more than I fear you" and the reaction by Azula was priceless.
Got to give props for Mai at rattling Azula and this episode more than proves the girl is the best match for Zuko as she has no problem backtalking him into submission. Zuko is going to be so whipped when he does marry Mei.
Bakasama
04-26-2008, 12:43 PM
Not only Ozai's Angels break up, Azula also had her ride jacked. I guess we're seeing Azula going psycho now. I think Mai and Ty Lee are going same prison that Iroh was in. I bet the other Kyoshi Warriors are going to be happy see them.
FroFroYo
04-26-2008, 01:05 PM
So hopefully Maiko (is that the Mai and Zuka name?) stay together and Zutara is nothing but lies. =D
Wjowski
04-26-2008, 01:20 PM
Indeed, it was nice seeing Azula lose her poise for once.
Movie-Brat
04-26-2008, 03:31 PM
Awesome episode and once again, my prediction was spot on and this time, it concerned Mai and Ty Lee.
Wjowski
04-26-2008, 03:50 PM
Hm...though now I'm wondering if they're ever going to explain how the cooler-rooms prevented firebending (cold temperatures never seemed to impede it before as far as I know). Ah well, it's an incredibly minor detail in an altogether excellent show.
The Cool Thatguy
04-26-2008, 03:56 PM
Hm...though now I'm wondering if they're ever going to explain how the cooler-rooms prevented firebending (cold temperatures never seemed to impede it before as far as I know). Ah well, it's an incredibly minor detail in an altogether excellent show.
It hardly seemed like preventation so much as punishment.
Also, it could be that it just doesn't prevent the more skilled fire benders. Zuko may be the runt of the family, but he's still pretty damn tough as far as firebenders go.
sun tzu
04-26-2008, 04:28 PM
I definitely got a "beginning of the end" vibe for Azula here.
Len Ikari145
04-26-2008, 07:31 PM
So hopefully Maiko (is that the Mai and Zuka name?) stay together and Zutara is nothing but lies. =D
Dude, Brian himself said "they're a great couple". Three constants we can always expect from the creators.
1) Avatar will only continue to be awesome with each episode.
2)Kataang will always prevail.
3)Mike and Brian are utter dicks who enjoy faking out Zutarians and crushing their hopes with misleading commercials.
In short: Nothing for you to worry about.
AllisterH
04-26-2008, 08:31 PM
I definitely got a "beginning of the end" vibe for Azula here.
Yeah, especially at the end with the way she reacted. I mean, Azula is usally great with the witty comebacks but this time?
When Mai said "I love Zuko more than I fear you", the best Azula could come up with is "OH YEAH? You should fear me more!!". Pretty weak for Azula and then getting paralyzed by Ty Lee?
The usual Azula is so great at predicting responses but she just got OWNED here.
You know, I think we've noty given enough props to Mai in the past. She's got MAD SKILLZ along with her sharp wit. As well, it seems like the Lin family were pretty influential if her uncle was warden and her father was governor of New Ozai yet Mai still chose Zuko over the consequences of disobeying Azula.
Maiko forever!!!
Eliseu Gouveia
04-26-2008, 08:35 PM
I was extremely disapointed.
TWO whole episodes and they didnīt find any meat? :biggrin:
FroFroYo
04-26-2008, 08:38 PM
I was extremely disapointed.
TWO whole episodes and they didnīt find any meat? :biggrin:
Suki did :wink:
*shot*
AllisterH
04-26-2008, 08:59 PM
Suki did :wink:
*shot*
Yeah, Sokka seems to attract some very inteesting women. Just imagine the positions Sokka and his two living ladies could get into.
HEH
"My first girlfriend turned into the moon."
"That's rough, buddy."
Len Ikari145
04-27-2008, 07:12 AM
Yeah, especially at the end with the way she reacted. I mean, Azula is usally great with the witty comebacks but this time?
When Mai said "I love Zuko more than I fear you", the best Azula could come up with is "OH YEAH? You should fear me more!!". Pretty weak for Azula and then getting paralyzed by Ty Lee?
The usual Azula is so great at predicting responses but she just got OWNED here.
You know, I think we've noty given enough props to Mai in the past. She's got MAD SKILLZ along with her sharp wit. As well, it seems like the Lin family were pretty influential if her uncle was warden and her father was governor of New Ozai yet Mai still chose Zuko over the consequences of disobeying Azula.
Maiko forever!!!
Yup, I just watched the episode. Mai and Ty Lee have joined officially joined my favorite characters list.
Can't wait until they meet up with the Avatar crew.
Eliseu Gouveia
04-27-2008, 07:45 AM
Iīm still not sure of what to think about the Ty Lee/Suki stalemate.
While Ty Lee has been just awesome since her first appearance, able to take down pretty much anyone in 1-2 hits, Suki is, although a great fighter too, someone who early Sokka was able to tag at least once (IIRC) .
Early Sokka himself was never portrayed as an uber fighter, so the only explanation would be that Suki has evolved by leap and bounds since she first appeared.
AllisterH
04-27-2008, 08:20 AM
Iīm still not sure of what to think about the Ty Lee/Suki stalemate.
While Ty Lee has been just awesome since her first appearance, able to take down pretty much anyone in 1-2 hits, Suki is, although a great fighter too, someone who early Sokka was able to tag at least once (IIRC) .
Early Sokka himself was never portrayed as an uber fighter, so the only explanation would be that Suki has evolved by leap and bounds since she first appeared.
1. I think all Suki did was train while in prison. I'll say this for the Fire Nation, they seem pretty decent and humane jailers given that most of the prisoners seem to be well fed and in great shape. I mean, her capture of the warden was pretty impressive and had shades of Ty Lee.
2. I don't think Ty Lee was giving her all. Look at her face when she is going down on the opposite gondola and she definitely isn't enjoying Zuko et al plummet to their deaths. Even at the start of the match, you can see Suki was dead serious ad Ty Lee wasn't. I'm thinking if this match had gone further or had Ty Lee at the outset been serious about it, Suki is still getting her head handed to her.
3. There WAS some jobbing going on. Let's face it, Ty Lee and Mai Lin should have STOMPED those guards into the ground. There was what, only 30-40 guards? Only thing I can think of is that Mai Lin was pretty much out of weapons and she was still in shock that Ty Lee had nervestriked Azula into the ground.
4. Ty Lee is still on another level of agility compared to everyone who isn't a non-airbender. I mean, seriously, the ability to run full tilt on the gondola cable and pulling off acrobatics while on top of a gondola with absolutely total flawless (her backflip into the gondola and through it to the other side in basically one motion? Ty Lee has Spidey blood in her). Looking at her jumping ability (to jump from the ground to the top of the cable station had to been at least 8 feet and Ty Lee cleared that EASILY, it's a good thing Ty Lee focuses on nerve strikes because can you imagine the power behind her kicks?
5. Mai has some serious hand-eye corodination herself. To use daggers to be able to pin people and to throw them with such FORCE (notice when she threw a couple of dagger at two people, they actually went back several feet) and ACCURACY (not one guard was actually scratched, although I wonde rif she would've held back against Azula?)
heretic
04-27-2008, 08:26 AM
Zutara, meet our friend Mister Broadside. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShipSinking)
No details needed.
HTG
Winterwolf
04-27-2008, 08:38 AM
Great episode, nothing but goodness.
Btw I LOVED Suki in this episode! Suki=Awsome
Yeah maybe a little jobbing on the Ty Lee/Suki battle, but I believe much of Azula's teams success was due not only to being very powerful and talented but also because they were pretty unknown to the Gang. Suki was more informed about what Azula, and Ty Lee were capable of than the last fight.
Btw Zuko had his best preformance against Azula too.
Eliseu Gouveia
04-27-2008, 09:25 AM
1. I think all Suki did was train while in prison. I'll say this for the Fire Nation, they seem pretty decent and humane jailers given that most of the prisoners seem to be well fed and in great shape. I mean, her capture of the warden was pretty impressive and had shades of Ty Lee.
2. I don't think Ty Lee was giving her all. Look at her face when she is going down on the opposite gondola and she definitely isn't enjoying Zuko et al plummet to their deaths. Even at the start of the match, you can see Suki was dead serious ad Ty Lee wasn't. I'm thinking if this match had gone further or had Ty Lee at the outset been serious about it, Suki is still getting her head handed to her.
3. There WAS some jobbing going on. Let's face it, Ty Lee and Mai Lin should have STOMPED those guards into the ground. There was what, only 30-40 guards? Only thing I can think of is that Mai Lin was pretty much out of weapons and she was still in shock that Ty Lee had nervestriked Azula into the ground.
4. Ty Lee is still on another level of agility compared to everyone who isn't a non-airbender. I mean, seriously, the ability to run full tilt on the gondola cable and pulling off acrobatics while on top of a gondola with absolutely total flawless (her backflip into the gondola and through it to the other side in basically one motion? Ty Lee has Spidey blood in her). Looking at her jumping ability (to jump from the ground to the top of the cable station had to been at least 8 feet and Ty Lee cleared that EASILY, it's a good thing Ty Lee focuses on nerve strikes because can you imagine the power behind her kicks?
5. Mai has some serious hand-eye corodination herself. To use daggers to be able to pin people and to throw them with such FORCE (notice when she threw a couple of dagger at two people, they actually went back several feet) and ACCURACY (not one guard was actually scratched, although I wonde rif she would've held back against Azula?)
Ty Lee always has a careless Iīm-having-a-ball expression in her face, so I didnīt pay much attention to it. Iīll have to go back but I think Iīve only seen her once with a serious expression in her face (canīt remember which episode, but I think she was upset because someone pulled an unfair trick on her).
Btw Zuko had his best preformance against Azula too.
I think Suki and Azulaīs friends kinda stole the show.
We focused so much in them we didnīt even register that Zuko actualy held his own against Azula.
Itīs true that he had Sokka backing him up (Iīm still having trouble writing that sentence... Zuko and Sokka on the same side), but just the idea that he could deflect his sisterīs blue flame? Glorious.
Given the company, I hope the new guy they got in prison brings something to the table, from the looks of it, heīs not exactly sharp.
nervmeister
04-27-2008, 09:47 AM
I missed the fucking episode. :evilangry:
Bakasama
04-27-2008, 09:47 AM
Ty Lee always has a careless Iīm-having-a-ball expression in her face, so I didnīt pay much attention to it. Iīll have to go back but I think Iīve only seen her once with a serious expression in her face (canīt remember which episode, but I think she was upset because someone pulled an unfair trick on her).
I think you're thinking of this pic (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/220/594.jpg). It's from the "Crossroads of Destiny". It's when Toph does an interesting trick on Ty Lee.
Given the company, I hope the new guy they got in prison brings something to the table, from the looks of it, heīs not exactly sharp.
It almost seems like the show is forming ANOTHER team of heroes. All they need is another waterbender.
Bakasama
04-27-2008, 09:49 AM
I missed the fucking episode. :evilangry:
These episode weren't broadcast yet. It was leaked by somebody who worked at Blockbuster. You can find them if know who to ask or where to find.
nervmeister
04-27-2008, 09:51 AM
These episode weren't broadcast yet. It was leaked by somebody who worked at Blockbuster. You can find them if know who to ask or where to find.Ohhh. I see. But I was still dumb enough to read one of the spoilers. :frown:
FroFroYo
04-27-2008, 10:10 AM
1. I think all Suki did was train while in prison. I'll say this for the Fire Nation, they seem pretty decent and humane jailers given that most of the prisoners seem to be well fed and in great shape. I mean, her capture of the warden was pretty impressive and had shades of Ty Lee.
2. I don't think Ty Lee was giving her all. Look at her face when she is going down on the opposite gondola and she definitely isn't enjoying Zuko et al plummet to their deaths. Even at the start of the match, you can see Suki was dead serious ad Ty Lee wasn't. I'm thinking if this match had gone further or had Ty Lee at the outset been serious about it, Suki is still getting her head handed to her.
3. There WAS some jobbing going on. Let's face it, Ty Lee and Mai Lin should have STOMPED those guards into the ground. There was what, only 30-40 guards? Only thing I can think of is that Mai Lin was pretty much out of weapons and she was still in shock that Ty Lee had nervestriked Azula into the ground.
4. Ty Lee is still on another level of agility compared to everyone who isn't a non-airbender. I mean, seriously, the ability to run full tilt on the gondola cable and pulling off acrobatics while on top of a gondola with absolutely total flawless (her backflip into the gondola and through it to the other side in basically one motion? Ty Lee has Spidey blood in her). Looking at her jumping ability (to jump from the ground to the top of the cable station had to been at least 8 feet and Ty Lee cleared that EASILY, it's a good thing Ty Lee focuses on nerve strikes because can you imagine the power behind her kicks?
5. Mai has some serious hand-eye corodination herself. To use daggers to be able to pin people and to throw them with such FORCE (notice when she threw a couple of dagger at two people, they actually went back several feet) and ACCURACY (not one guard was actually scratched, although I wonde rif she would've held back against Azula?)
I agree with all of these, especially number three. When I saw them captured, all I could think of was: didn't Ty Lee take out a whole fleet of elite earth benders in 'The Drill'? They should've easily been able to escape, I think. But, I doubt any prison can hold them, so yay to that hope.
Ohhh. I see. But I was still dumb enough to read one of the spoilers. :frown:
The actual episodes > spoilers, though. xD
sun tzu
04-27-2008, 10:21 AM
"My first girlfriend turned into the moon."
"That's rough, buddy."
Yeah, that bit was awesome.
Now, question though...Have we ever seen any other firebender pull that "rocket trick"? I was seeing the way Azula reached the gondola and thinking, "WTF?! She can do that?!"
AllisterH
04-27-2008, 10:53 AM
Yeah, that bit was awesome.
Now, question though...Have we ever seen any other firebender pull that "rocket trick"? I was seeing the way Azula reached the gondola and thinking, "WTF?! She can do that?!"
That's why when Hakoda said
"Whose that?"
Zuko response of "That's a problem" wasn't an understatement. He KNOWS what those girls are capable of since, as soon as Zuko saw them there, he KNEW somehow they would reach the gondola...(and in fact the gaang has gotten somewhat used to Ozai's Angels doing "WTF!!, they can do that?!?!" that nobody even batted an eye when they saw Ty Lee and Azula actually running them down)
Although, I can't call them Ozai's Angels anymore, can I? *sigh*, how sad. I definitely think more and more this is the episode where Azula starts to lose it mentally. How much you want to bet that we're going to see Azula acting like Ty Lee & Mai Lin are still at her sides before Azula realizes that they aren't there?
Dark Soul # 7
04-27-2008, 01:35 PM
Just watched it.
It was awesome indeed.
First of all it was awesome to see some great action scenes with Suki, Azula, Mai and Ty Lee. Girl-power indeed. The best was Suki's show of acrobatics to reach the warden, IMO that scene completely curbstomps Ty Lee running up the cable and Mai realeasing the gondola in pure awesomeness.
But what really made me squeal like the nerd I am was the interaction between Zuko and Sokka. It was pretty much just what I was hoping for from the two. Zuko has now proven to be a good team player with Aang and Sokka. Great stuff.
While it wasn't much I loved when Zuko revealed his fire-breathing while in the cooler. Pure badass.
The fight scene on top of the gondola was great. I can't really think of anything else to say about it.
We've seen calm and collected Azula, so now I'm going to enjoy watching crazy, freaking out Azula. It certainly revealed a weak-spot in her. If you can surprise her she will crumble. I think it might be time to bring out that Joker/Ozai picture.
And I'm going tohave to get used to Maiko huh. Fine, but I don't have to like it.
MKTerra
04-27-2008, 02:16 PM
Yeah, that bit was awesome.
Now, question though...Have we ever seen any other firebender pull that "rocket trick"? I was seeing the way Azula reached the gondola and thinking, "WTF?! She can do that?!"She did it before in the Season 2 finale to meet crystal-armored Aang's charge.
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9784/571kw8.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=571kw8.jpg)
nervmeister
04-27-2008, 07:33 PM
The actual episodes > spoilers, though. xDMaybe you're right. Just because you know what's at the end of the ride usually doesn't make the ride itself any less fun. Thanks for making me feel better, Fro.
Erebus
04-27-2008, 09:47 PM
While I'd bet a lot of the prisoners on the Boiling Rock were imprisoned unjustly, the majority are probably legitimate criminals. Which makes me wonder what exactly Chit Sang was jailed for...
Cleric of Hell's Brigade
04-28-2008, 07:32 PM
Where can I watch the Boiling Rock episodes?
The Cool Thatguy
04-28-2008, 08:17 PM
Where can I watch the Boiling Rock episodes?
Whereever thou can find pirated episodes. Try google :biggrin:
Cleric of Hell's Brigade
04-28-2008, 09:14 PM
Nevermind, I found them on Veoh.
Excellent episodes.:smile:
ImpulseUCF
04-29-2008, 08:26 AM
I really, really love this show. It's ridiculous how much I love this show.
Saw both Boiling epsiodes several times on YouTube last week and once again before they'd yanked them off.
Excellent epsiodes, with an incredible WTF!!:eek: climax of ending. The end of Azula's reign as SuperB#@! Prime is in final stages. And long live Maiko!!! and Sukka!!!
"My first girlfriend turned into the moon."
"That's rough, buddy."
After that line, I was sold on Zuko finally embracing his inner playa'ness!!:biggrin:
The Cool Thatguy
05-01-2008, 01:34 PM
Ya know, I like Sokka, but I can't help but think that he was cramping Zuko's style. He broke into Zhoa's base and the Dai Li's secret underwater base with just a blue mask and swords. Why was he asking Sokka for advise on planning their escape?:tongue:
Dark Soul # 7
05-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Ya know, I like Sokka, but I can't help but think that he was cramping Zuko's style. He broke into Zhoa's base and the Dai Li's secret underwater base with just a blue mask and swords. Why was he asking Sokka for advise on planning their escape?:tongue:Because while Zuko is great at breaking into places he kind of sucks at breaking out of them without attracting attention to himself.
The Cool Thatguy
05-01-2008, 01:52 PM
Because while Zuko is great at breaking into places he kind of sucks at breaking out of them without attracting attention to himself.
Not really. He got in and out of the Dai Li base without being detected and nothing he did gave him away when he broke out Aang.
Winterwolf
05-01-2008, 02:27 PM
Honestly I think even though Zuko might have been able to do the planning and breaking out thing, I think is showed more character that he was willing to let Sokka do that and go along with whatever plan he came up with.
After all it was Sokka's idea to go...it was Sokka trying to regain his honor not Zuko.
sun tzu
05-01-2008, 04:55 PM
This is a post from October the 19th. Emphasis mine.
Ok, it's not JUST Zuko.
Azula herself has absolutely NO GAME!!!! Damn, but it does seem that Azula DOES actually care a little for Ty Lee and does seem to have some issues.
Ozai really, REALLY screwed up his kids.
There are 6, SIX more Ty Lees? Dude, the mind can't even comprehend this.
We also get some more information on Mai (and apparently, unlike Ty Lee, she's not afraid to tell Azula off. I predict a showdown between Azula and Mai dealing with Zuko and Ty Lee caught in the middle).
The Combustion Man Rocks (that slow-mo scene with Aang and the CM was incredible. I loved how Aang used his airbending powers to cushion the blast). Dude owned them all.
Anyone think it kinda convenient that the Fire Nation is a set of islands thus allowing Katara to pretty much always be close to a major body of water?
Heh, those Zutarans are going to hate the conclusion of this episode though
I was going over the thread, and this bit struck me.:biggrin:
AllisterH
05-01-2008, 05:39 PM
Wahoo, I even forgot about that....
Here's a new prediction, Azula is going to be seen acting as if Ty Lee and Mai are still by her side and that's when we really start to see her crack up.
I so want to see what happens when Zuko finds out Mai and Ty Lee are in jail
that puppet thing from NYCC 2008 was one of the best things I've ever seen! :)
The Cool Thatguy
05-01-2008, 06:18 PM
Wahoo, I even forgot about that....
Here's a new prediction, Azula is going to be seen acting as if Ty Lee and Mai are still by her side and that's when we really start to see her crack up.
I so want to see what happens when Zuko finds out Mai and Ty Lee are in jail
I can't imagine he doesn't already know Mai's in jail. He can't be naive enough to think that she would/could assist his escape without punishment. Guess we'll have to wait until next episode to find out his reaction.
Bakasama
05-01-2008, 09:33 PM
Wahoo, I even forgot about that....
Here's a new prediction, Azula is going to be seen acting as if Ty Lee and Mai are still by her side and that's when we really start to see her crack up.
I so want to see what happens when Zuko finds out Mai and Ty Lee are in jail
She looks likes she's cracking here (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/069.jpg). I wonder what caused the bad hairdo.
I would find it really funny if she's going crazy because, "Wah wah! Nobody luvs meeeee!!!"
Kage Kisaragi
05-05-2008, 06:52 PM
I knew someone on some foreign forum was right, I'll trust us Americans again when it comes to foreign programming! W00t New Avatar Episodes all through May.
Kage Kisaragi
05-05-2008, 08:45 PM
May?. ... Mai .... wasn't her name pronounced like "My" ... maybe it was may,.
FroFroYo
05-05-2008, 09:35 PM
You're right? xD
Not really sure which you're going with, but Mai's name is pronounced May.
Kage Kisaragi
05-05-2008, 11:04 PM
You're right? xD
Not really sure which you're going with, but Mai's name is pronounced May.
It's be so long that I've totally forgotten how it was pronounced, so when I saw it again and heard Zuko say May, I was like.. WTF? ...
GrampaGen
05-06-2008, 12:46 AM
I find it strange they insist on spelling her name 'Mai' when 'Mei' makes more sense, especially with the Chinese inspired world and all.
Ah well. Small nit to pick :tongue:
Kage Kisaragi
05-06-2008, 01:08 AM
I find it strange they insist on spelling her name 'Mai' when 'Mei' makes more sense, especially with the Chinese inspired world and all.
Ah well. Small nit to pick :tongue:
it's a good point though cause then I wouldn't be as confused as I am right now. :smile:
She looks likes she's cracking here (http://screenshots.avatarspiritmedia.net/020/069.jpg). I wonder what caused the bad hairdo.
I would find it really funny if she's going crazy because, "Wah wah! Nobody luvs meeeee!!!"
Oh the irony.:biggrin:
Kage Kisaragi
05-08-2008, 11:58 AM
I think you guys have Azura pegged all wrong. She wont go crazy due to lack of love, shes made it quiet clear that emotions such love and so on are out right ridiculous if not beneath her. She even says as much on the beach episode. She fully realizes shes a monster and that is the core of her char