Mutant League - Trash Talking Fun Thread!

[Sheldon]

OK gang. This is the thread where we can see some of your creative abilities.
Post your team name and provide some backstory for them. Why they are together, why we should care about them, and why we should tremble before them!

Try to use the other thread for questions etc.

Let the trash talking begin!

Oh yeah remember this is all in good fun!

[The Dosadi Experiment]

The name of my team shall be...

The Santaroga Dysfunction

[Atom_basher]

So guys, is there any teams you have serious apprehension about fighting?


1 The_15th_Sven - Doppelganger (Traded to Nightcrawler for Storm), Angel (SALVATORE), Cyclops, Sabretooth, Projector, No Girl
2 Flight - Emma Frost, Sebastian Shaw, Mystique, Sunspot, Callisto, Lady Mastermind, Vargas
3 The Fury - Rachel Grey, Northstar, Cannonball, Warpath, Persuasion. Windshear, rictor
4 Tre Styles - Bishop, Colossus, Magma, Shadowcat, Firestar, Static II, Integer
5 Mattbib - Professor X, Karma, Phantazia, Shola Inkose, Unscione, Courier I, Boost
6 HellFrost/Phoenixboyx - M, Freakshow, Aurora, Monsoon, Hellion, X-23, Hub
7 BWilly/Venuscameback - Iceman, Blaquesmith, Dazzler, Juggernaut, Mirrorshade, Black Queen IV, Tempo
8 Taskmaster - Black Death, Krueger, Host, Leash, Maverick (Agent Zero), Mountjoy, Prodigy
9 The Lucky One - Quicksliver, Madrox, Douglock, Sabra, Justice, Penance, Mary Zero
10 Nightcrawler - Storm (traded to 15th Sven for Doppelganger), Scrambler, Psimon, Empath, Hazard, Thunderbird III
11 Siddon - Polaris, Forge, Paradigm, Ashley Martin, Carter, Timeshadow, Comcast
12 Squila Lord/Frustrated - Dust, Fixx, Ghost Girl, Evangiline Whedon, Rhapsody, Wallflower, Hack
13 plym - Wolverine, Rogue, Archangel, Gambit, Chamber, Beast, Husk
14 kmeyers - Havok, Avalanche, Nocturne, King Bedlam, Whiteout. Nightcrawler, Mastermind III
15 Atom_Basher - Sage, Mondo, Moonstar, Mannikin, Mammomax, Jade Dragon, Tad Carter
16 The Dosadi Experiment - Stepford Cuckos, Slipstream, Sunfire, Vincente, Hardtime, Emplate
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[Siddon]

And my team name shall be

Phalanx 2.0

That Forge pick don't seem so silly now..... unlimited intelligence combined with the ultimate techno organic machine, plus a time shifter, a mistress of magnetism.

[Atom_basher]

cant your time shifter only shift himself. and no one else?

[Siddon]

Won't matter....... I got Paradigm my team is now 1 being.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

Taskmaster
and
Squila

[Atom_basher]

Won't matter....... I got Paradigm my team is now 1 being.


How exactly would that work? unless u have a team member who can turn others into machines. im not seeing it

[Siddon]

Thats what Paradigm does, he assimilates them into his being, he is a machine he is infected with the Phalanx.

Think of it like how Warlock would combine with Doug Ramsey.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

Thats what Paradigm does, he assimilates them into his being, he is a machine he is infected with the Phalanx.

Think of it like how Warlock would combine with Doug Ramsey.

The Phalanx can't absorb mutants

[Atom_basher]

The Phalanx can't absorb mutants


Hes right, warlock didnt assimilate doug ramsey to make douglock, Douglock is a gentic experiment made from the 2 dead bodies of warlock and Cypher

[Siddon]

The Phalanx can't absorb mutants that don't want to be assimilated. Which is why I drafted a mutant with a history of manipulating mutants.

:D

[Atom_basher]

The Phalanx can't absorb mutants that don't want to be assimilated. Which is why I drafted a mutant with a history of manipulating mutants.

:D


what happens if that member is unconcious?

[The Dosadi Experiment]

The Phalanx can't absorb mutants that don't want to be assimilated. Which is why I drafted a mutant with a history of manipulating mutants.

:D

no, it just can't assimilate mutants.

[Atom_basher]

hold one sec, im lookng it up i the xmen handbook

[Siddon]

Yes it can, check out the Phalanx entry in Mutant High.

[Atom_basher]

Nope the phalanx cannot. and i quote

"The phalanx wanted to convert all life on earth into techo-organic beings. Since the phalanx could not assimilate mutants due to muatnts gentic structure, they instead tried to kill them"

Stright from the Xmen ultimate guide updated edition published by DK publishing. infact it has images of X-2 on the back cover which means it hella recent.

[The Fury]

OK, So I didn't leave for as long as I said, Trash talking going well I see.

Right first my Team name and histor will appear when I've finallised my team (decided whether to trade or not, we'll talk ;) ).

[Atom_basher]

Oh and Siddon, this is the book I have for good measure

http://a1204.g.akamai.net/7/1204/1401/03110612011/images.barnesandnoble.com/images/7070000/7078735.jpg

[The Lucky One]

So guys, is there any teams you have serious apprehension about fighting?

I fear no one.




I am, however, interested in what will happen if/when I have to fight Siddon. Since the Phalanx is the waste by-product left behind when a Technarch member transmodes something, essentially undigested food... and as Warlock has made it his mission to eradicate all traces of the t-o virus on Earth... I would imagine he's anticipating such a match with great eagerness.

-D

[Atom_basher]

well lucky one, it doesnt seem like Siddon planned aswell as he should have.

[Siddon]

Nope the phalanx cannot. and i quote

"The phalanx wanted to convert all life on earth into techo-organic beings. Since the phalanx could not assimilate mutants due to muatnts gentic structure, they instead tried to kill them"

Stright from the Xmen ultimate guide updated edition published by DK publishing. infact it has images of X-2 on the back cover which means it hella recent.

And allow me to qoute the entry on Mutant High

However, the Phalanx's directives were hard-wired into them, and soon the collective's goal became the assimilation of all life, not just mutants, and they began to build a giant array to signal their forbears, the original Technarchy. Apparently, this sort of "Phalanx Event" is a programmed response of any organic community that gets infected with the Transmode Virus. The purpose is to convert enough of the community and then signal the Technarch, who will come and drain the energy of the Phalanx Event. In addition, the Phalanx "leader" Shinar captured Forge and tried to force him to maintain the incubation of more Phalanx "eggs," while other Phalanx co-opted Muir Island temporarily, defeated by Cyclops, Phoenix, Cable and Wolverine shortly afterwards. Fortunately, the Phalanx was utterly defeated by the combined efforts of all the X-Teams, its members apparently dissociated and its strongholds destroyed. The X-Men were also rescued, none of them assimilated, as the Phalanx (unlike the Technarchy) could not Transmode mutants, due to the force of mutants' wills.

There are also examples of the Phalanx and Transmode virus overcoming that detail in

Exiles Legacy TPB
Uncanny X-men 343

[Atom_basher]

I wouild rather go by the actual source than the mutant high website, if you would like, i can scan the page to show u that mutants cannot be assimilated.

edit: and i just think the whole "will thing" is mutanthighs way of wording it.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

fansite vs official handbook...

I'm thinking the handbook wins...

[The Fury]

1) is Paradigm actually the Phalanx or just a subset (reject) leftover that can't do as much?

2) I thought I'd post my team name anyway, I present to you:


Survivors of Earth-742




3) The fury Protocols are mine to command. :evilsmile

[Atom_basher]

The name of my team is

S&M's elephant crap.

[Siddon]

Well that would be a great point....... but Uncanny Net's confirms that mutants can be assimilated notes on Paradigm

to quote Uncanny net-
Paradigm was forced to absorb a portion of Phalanx material, which has transformed his body and mind. He now seeks to constantly evolve himself.

So if mutants can't be assimilated then the telekinetic Paradigm wouldn't.

The handbook just didn't go into it as deeply as it could have been. It seems that mutants have a genetic ability to resist the phalanx but only through will. A purer form of Phalanx does have the ability to assimilate mutants as seen in Uncanny X-men 343. A viral verson of Warlocks tech race has the ability to assimilate mutants as seen in Exiles Legacy. Paradigm is already a mutant absorbed by the Phalanx.

Now these were the sources we did agree upon to define our characters by.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

Well that would be a great point....... but Uncanny Net's confirms that mutants can be assimilated notes on Paradigm

to quote Uncanny net-
Paradigm was forced to absorb a portion of Phalanx material, which has transformed his body and mind. He now seeks to constantly evolve himself.

So if mutants can't be assimilated then the telekinetic Paradigm wouldn't.

The phalanx didn't absorb him, he absorbed the phalanx. Big difference there.

[Atom_basher]

Paradigm can morph tecno material to his whim, in whatever shape or form. HE absorbed IT not the other way around.

[Siddon]

1) is Paradigm actually the Phalanx or just a subset (reject) leftover that can't do as much?


He's a mutant he has telekinec abiltiy's, that doesn't come from the Phalanx.

The encyclopedia is limited, Rogue was absorbed in Uncanny X-men 343.

Comics > Encyclopedia

[The Dosadi Experiment]

He's a mutant he has telekinec abiltiy's, that doesn't come from the Phalanx.

The encyclopedia is limited, Rogue was absorbed in Uncanny X-men 343.

Comics > Encyclopedia

she was absorbed by non-terrestial agents of the phalanx... again, big difference there. It's even explained in the comics as such.

[Siddon]

Paradigm can morph tecno material to his whim, in whatever shape or form. HE absorbed IT not the other way around.

Forced to absorb it, it wasn't his choice he was forced into it

[Atom_basher]

you are agruing FOR me, like u said HE absorbed it, even if fhe was forced to, and the only reason he was forced to is because with his powers he COULD and thats the only way.

[The Fury]

Now these were the sources we did agree upon to define our characters by.
I used other places as well to define powers. For example, my Character Windshear can control air. At Uncannyxmen.net the definition is:

create hard-air, a form of solid air molecules, which he can propell at high velocities and shape into various forms, flight suit

And then at this other website I found defines them as:

===Air Control; Hard Air Projection; Flight; Explosions (remove
air); Hard Air Shield;

Thye Explosion bit interested me.

[Sheldon]

A quick note about sources....I'll take what happend in the actual comics over a guidebook or website anyday. So if there is proof in the actual issues (scans are always helpful) that will trump what a guidebook or website.

[Atom_basher]

A quick note about sources....I'll take what happend in the actual comics over a guidebook or website anyday. So if there is proof in the actual issues (scans are always helpful) that will trump what a guidebook or website.


Sheldon, Dosadi explain the circumstance in which it happened, and that it wasnt an actual phlanax. i think the proof in which i can show it way more substantial. u can even tell his argument is getting weaker and weaker.

[Siddon]

The definition of Assimilate

Main Entry: [1]as·sim·i·late
Pronunciation: &-'si-m&-"lAt
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -lat·ed; -lat·ing
1 a : to take in and appropriate as nourishment : absorb into the system b : to take into the mind and thoroughly comprehend

He was assimilated, the Phalanx was absorbed into his system, thats the definition of the word assimilate.

If he assimilated the Phalanx then the powers and abilities of the Phalanx are still there and are just part of his system.

[Squila Lord]

Our Team's name is Clouded Judgment !!!

[Sheldon]

Sheldon, Dosadi explain the circumstance in which it happened, and that it wasnt an actual phlanax. i think the proof in which i can show it way more substantial. u can even tell his argument is getting weaker and weaker.

I wasn't arguing one way or the other.....I just was saying that when it comes time for the actual battle, the primary source (comic) will have precidence over secondary sources (guidebooks and website summaries).

[Atom_basher]

The definition of Assimilate

Main Entry: [1]as·sim·i·late
Pronunciation: &-'si-m&-"lAt
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -lat·ed; -lat·ing
1 a : to take in and appropriate as nourishment : absorb into the system b : to take into the mind and thoroughly comprehend

He was assimilated, the Phalanx was absorbed into his system, thats the definition of the word assimilate.

If he assimilated the Phalanx then the powers and abilities of the Phalanx are still there and are just part of his system.

again YOU ARE ARGUING FOR ME, i know VERY well what assimilate means, but in this case Paradigm was the dominant party in the assimilation process, due to his ability to manipulate technology (somthing that the phalanx are) if u can gice me an example of another mutant who was assimilated (without some sort of reason for it i.e. Rogue beinmg assimilated by a non phalanx) ill lay down my argument. admit it, u are arguing a losing argument. anyone would have to admit it is fishy that a person who can can cotrol all machinery and MERGE with machinery wasnt the one who did the assimilating, come on man, you know your wrong. just admit it.

[Siddon]

I am just really confused about what the position of your argument is here.

So Dos and Atom you guys are saying that Mutants can't be absorbed by the Phalanx.

But then by your own admission Rogue was able to be assimilated by a version of the Phalanx. The alien race was a version of the Phalanx, we aren’t arguing about that right? So the definition in the guidebook is wrong because at least one version was capable of assimilating Mutants. And the guidebook didn’t differentiate the versions.... correct?

Now what exactlly are you saying Paradigm's problem is. Either he is a similar part of the Phalanx with the Phalanx being the dominate form. Or the Phalanx is a part of Paradigm giving paradigm dominace over the Phalanx.

How does he not have the powers and abilities of the Phalanx? When Rogue absorbed Ms. Marvel she acquired her powers? How are these situations diferent? Which either side of this issue is dominate that doesn't negate the Phalanx's powers.

[Flight]

Is this the thread where we say our teams name and give a little bit of fun synopsis about them?

[BWilly]

Is this the thread where we say our teams name and give a little bit of fun synopsis about them?

It sure is.

Hmmm, what to call my team...

[The Fury]

Is this the thread where we say our teams name and give a little bit of fun synopsis about them?
According to the first post. Yes, it is.

Hope it's a good name Flight.

[The Lucky One]

Leaving aside all debate about whether the Phalanx CAN assimilate mutants, what I see as the more relevent question is whether they WOULD. As defined by the rules of the tournament, while all characters will be resurrected and/or healed of injuries/infections/illnesses at the end of each round, they themselves aren't aware of that fact- as far as they know, each round is a regular, real fight, not some game with no consequences (that's why you don't see, say, Professor X killing people). So the question of whether Siddon can have Paradigm assimilate every member of his team -- after we answer whether he's physically capable, anyway -- comes down to whether they'd all be willing to live the rest of their lives as members of the Phalanx. I would argue "no" to that for most of them, personally, but I'm open to counter-arguments.

-D

[Atom_basher]

I am just really confused about what the position of your argument is here.

So Dos and Atom you guys are saying that Mutants can't be absorbed by the Phalanx.

.

I dont know why you are acting confused, what we are saying is pretty simple, the person who assimlated Rogue has powers that no other Phalnx has. and it was sexplained as such. please, stop recaching. i understand u assembled a team based on a combo that just doesnt work, id be pissed if i did that aswell. but you can't keep arguing like this, its not healthy for u :)

[Flight]

According to the first post. Yes, it is.

Hope it's a good name Flight. Oh it will be... This motley crew follow in the footsteps of the great G the Last Man!!!!!

[Sheldon]

Leaving aside all debate about whether the Phalanx CAN assimilate mutants, what I see as the more relevent question is whether they WOULD. As defined by the rules of the tournament, while all characters will be resurrected and/or healed of injuries/infections/illnesses at the end of each round, they themselves aren't aware of that fact- as far as they know, each round is a regular, real fight, not some game with no consequences (that's why you don't see, say, Professor X killing people). So the question of whether Siddon can have Paradigm assimilate every member of his team -- after we answer whether he's physically capable, anyway -- comes down to whether they'd all be willing to live the rest of their lives as members of the Phalanx. I would argue "no" to that for most of them, personally, but I'm open to counter-arguments.

-D

This is where Siddon's party gets interesting.....he has Carter....that kid that made Havok love nurse Anniie!!!

[kmeyers]

you're all phuct.

[Sheldon]

you're all phuct.
Is that your team name?

[Atom_basher]

This is where Siddon's party gets interesting.....he has Carter....that kid that made Havok love nurse Anniie!!!


But Sheldon, mutants cannot physically be assimilated. so even if he COULD persuade them, it wouldnt work. it would be kinda like 2 woman having true sexual intercourse, it just wouldnt work nor is it physically posible.

[The Lucky One]

This is where Siddon's party gets interesting.....he has Carter....that kid that made Havok love nurse Anniie!!!

...would Carter doom himself and 5 other mutants to permanent mechanical existence for the sake of winning a fight?

-D

[Flight]

...would Carter doom himself and 5 other mutants to permanent mechanical existence for the sake of winning a fight?

-D If I ever fight Siddon, I cannot wait for my Emma Frost to break Carters little neck

[Sheldon]

So is the willpower reason why mutants can't be assimliated written anywhere besides @ mutanthigh.com?

[Atom_basher]

So is the willpower reason why mutants can't be assimliated written anywhere besides @ mutanthigh.com?


Sheldon, I can scan the page of the handbook if you want.

[Sheldon]

I believe you about what is written in the handbook...I just want to know where Mutanthigh got the idea that assimilation is linked to willpower.

[Atom_basher]

another thing according to Siddons fave website mutanthigh.com, the only reason rogue was even turned to a phalanx, is because her mutant absorbing power absorbed the phalnax into herself, ANOTHER case in which it is the mutant doing the absorbing not the other way around

[Siddon]

another thing according to Siddons fave website mutanthigh.com, the only reason rogue was even turned to a phalanx, is because her mutant absorbing power absorbed the phalnax into herself, ANOTHER case in which it is the mutant doing the absorbing not the other way around

I think your miss quoting it (and silly THIS IS MY FAVORITE WEBSITE) heres the qoute from the comic.

"Kikt A frontal Assault is without merit Kikt all Phalanx have the collective knowledge of Past Encounters. "
"Kikt Therefore we are all aware of your tactilebased Absorbtion powers! KiKt In short we can counter all your techniques CBD Rogue.

few pages later

Rogue: Y'all Claim to be Phalanx But you don't resemble none that were on Earth Before!
Phalanx: Kikt you merely encountered our Transient units


So the units on Earth were just meant to be temporary units and thus had the design flaws the Marvel Enclopedia didn't seem to touch on that I guess. The Phalanx in space did know Rogue's powers and they claim they got from Rogue's earlier battles with the Phalanx leading one to see the link between the two.

So it seems like all I need to do is combine my team (shown in X-force 87 or 88) move them into a future state and have Forge repair the design flaws/retrieve the pure Phalanx from Paradigm. The Phalanx is in Paradigm wheather he is dominant or the Phalanx is dominant that is a debate of no consequence because the existence of the Phalanx is still there. IT just needs to be unlocked and I did draft a team with that in mind.

As for the will power thing Excalibur 82 deals with most of that basically it says right in comic that Douglock was able to assimilate Cannonball and Rahne because they trusted him. And if that is not good enough Shisear was able to control FORGE to help him repair some eggs. The reason Forge was vulnerable to this was because he was infected with the transmode virus which the Phalanx can control.

Remember the base of all of these characters you are arguing about ( Paradigm, Phalanx on earth, Phalanx in space) is the Transmode virus and that is in tact and can be modified as seen in Exiles Legacy arc.

[Atom_basher]

But remember timeshadow can only move himself, not others. they would have to merge before they could even do that, which you admitted cannot be done in Paradigms current state. I think you are reaching. Maybe you should start thinking of different techniques for your team, at the momnent the only one you were thinking of doesnt seem to be working

[Flight]

Looking at the list, I'm thinking to myself "who the **** are half these characters?!"

[Flight]

Looking at the list, I'm thinking to myself "who the **** are half these characters?!" The only full temas i know are kmeyers and Plym's!

[Siddon]

But remember timeshadow can only move himself, not others. they would have to merge before they could even do that, which you admitted cannot be done in Paradigms current state.

Paradigm merged X-force into his given state THAT was definately in the comics. What cannot be done is using the powers and abilitys of a merged Phalanx and Forge. Which is what I plan on doing. Timeshadow can move things which are merged to him otherwise he'd be one naked timetraveller.

[The Fury]

The only full temas i know are kmeyers and Plym's!
Well, Plym's is just a team of X-men.

[Atom_basher]

Paradigm merged X-force into his given state THAT was definately in the comics. What cannot be done is using the powers and abilitys of a merged Phalanx and Forge. Which is what I plan on doing. Timeshadow can move things which are merged to him otherwise he'd be one naked timetraveller.


WHat?, Timeshadows abilities come from him not some technological paraphanalia, AND he isnt technological, how in the world can paradigm morph with him.

[The Lucky One]

Okay, to settle this issue of whether or not Paradigm physically can assimilate his team members, I think we need to look at the facts, by which I mean only things physically depicted or mentioned in the comics themselves. With that in mind, here are the FACTS as they stand now, to be supplemented later when I'm near my collection.

1) The Technarch (Warlock, the Magus) can infect mutants with the transmode virus, turning them into techno-organic beings ("natural" Phalanx). Warlock accidentally infected Magik at one point, though she managed to reverse it with her Soulsword, and Doug was infected by soul-merging with Warlock before his death.

2) At the time of the Phalanx Covenant, the artificially-created earth Phalanx could not, for whatever reason, assimilate the X-Men.

3) Husk was infected by the transmode virus; however, it was only her outer skin, which she peeled away. Her main body remained uninfected.

4) The Exiles story "Legacy" involved the majority of the earth -- humans AND mutants -- being turned into techno-organic beings. However:
(a) It took place in an alternate reality, and as the nature of Magik's Soulsword has varied by reality (in ours it only hurts magical beings, in others it functions as a regular sword), it makes sense that the t-o virus would as well;
(b) It wasn't the straight transmode virus, but rather a mutant hybrid of the transmode and Legacy viruses; and
(c) Warlock initially started it, and as we've established, Technarch members CAN infect mutants.

5) Paradigm, a mutant, was infected by the Phalanx. I'll check my X-Force issues later to see specifically what was said about that.

6) Rogue began to be infected by a Phalanx. However, if I'm not mistaken, it was a "natural" Phalanx, the actual by-product of Technarch feeding, rather than the human-created Earth version. Plus, as others have pointed out, it was said to be caused by Rogue's power absorbing the creature's essence, not it intentionally infecting her.

7) Rogue has, if I'm remembering correctly, touched the Magus, and since her body retains imprints of the individuals she's touched before, that may help to explain why she later was able to absorb Phalanx traits.

Other facts people would like to add, based on things we've seen in the comics?

-D

[Atom_basher]

But lucky one, paradigm absorbed the phalanx using his powers, not the other way around, there truly is a huge diffrence

[The Lucky One]

Atom, I'm not arguing for or against Siddon, trust me. I'm just trying to resolve this issue using things we've seen in the comics.

-D

[Siddon]

6) Rogue began to be infected by a Phalanx. However, if I'm not mistaken, it was a "natural" Phalanx, the actual by-product of Technarch feeding, rather than the human-created Earth version. Plus, as others have pointed out, it was said to be caused by Rogue's power absorbing the creature's essence, not it intentionally infecting her.

Other facts people would like to add, based on things we've seen in the comics?

-D

From what I saw in the issue Rogue was being assimilated and it was Gambit that saved her from it(because metal and Gambits powers = boom). Not Rogue absorbing its essence, they actually talk about that and I qouted that.

[Atom_basher]

Atom, I'm not arguing for or against Siddon, trust me. I'm just trying to resolve this issue using things we've seen in the comics.

-D

Oh i know.

Im just saying that its a tad fishy, not to mention that the ONLY mutant known to be infected be a technological phalanx is someone who can *gasp* control technology in all its forms. u have to admit that that supports my argument

[Nightcrawler]

Assault X!

How can you stand against this team?

[The Fury]

Assault X!

How can you stand against this team?
Yo, have you made your final pick yet? Thread is below somehwere.

[Nightcrawler]

Yo, have you made your final pick yet? Thread is below somehwere.

I just sent it in.

Prepare to cry

[Atom_basher]

who is it? if you dont mind telling us.

[Nightcrawler]

You'll see...

ah, what the heck.

Me and 15th Sven had a deal going on, throughout the draft. He got me No-Girl (Yep, she's mine. Hahahahaha!) And I got him Wallflower thyis draft, except Sheldon diodn't make the announcement yet.

[Nightcrawler]

Think about it. She's a brain in a bottle.

I can do some incredible things with one of my characters...

[The Fury]

Me and 15th Sven had a deal going on, throughout the draft. He got me No-Girl (Yep, she's mine. Hahahahaha!) And I got him Wallflower thyis draft, except Sheldon diodn't make the announcement yet.
You should speak to Squila Lord about that. You sure that's what you did?

[The Lucky One]

Soooo... since Squila chose Wallflower last round, who does he end up with?

-D

[Nightcrawler]

ya, I know...have to talk to Sven...

[Atom_basher]

If i hadnt chose moonstar, would any of you guys chosen her?

[HellFrost]

If i hadnt chose moonstar, would any of you guys chosen her?
We were thinking bout it! :)

[PhoenixBoyX]

In a world where not even Charles Xavier can be trusted, a small group of mutants has banded together to kick major ass. M, all powerful miss perfect; Freakshow a metamorph with unlimited potential; Aurora, the superhuman atomic speedstar; Monsoon, a mighty force of nature to be reckoned with; Hellion, a young telekinetic who fears nothing and no one with an untapped, unimagineable potential; X-23, a savage warrior bred for killing, ready to stop any in her way; and Hub, a teleporter able to take them anywhere they need.
Together, they are ANTI-X. And the world doesn't stand a chance....
Coming to an X-Boards near you sometime next week-And look for the exclusive preview story in Write me an X during the competition.
-Nick

[Sheldon]

I haven't heard from 15th sven concerning any trades....

[Atom_basher]

No i changed my team name its now

Rubber Baby bugger bumper

[Sheldon]

Don't just post a name.....let me know about how your team came together....

[Nightcrawler]

I'll have some more later...


With the world in peril, and super-powered crime and terrorism destroying the Earth from the inside, a new team of heroes arise. Banded together by the third Thunderbird, a group of outcasts, some ex-villians, formed together to strike for justice, they are...Assault X!

Know them...Fear them.

[kmeyers]

hey, I say let Siddon merge everyone into one person...It makes it easy on my team...all seven just have to wail on one person.

[Squila Lord]

Yes!!! We got Wallflower first!! Boo-Ya!! Now the only problem is. . .I wanted Persuasion :eek:

[Atom_basher]

I am also another perso who wanted persuasuion

[Squila Lord]

Indeed, I had her on my list from the get-go, and when she was snatched from beneath me!! ugh!!!!!

[BWilly]

No i changed my team name its now

Rubber Baby bugger bumper

That is the most intimidating team name I have ever heard. I forfeit now.

[kmeyers]

team : CLAWHAWKS.

named after the 8th man

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/kmeyers/clawhawk.jpg

LLLLLLLET'S GET READYYYYYYYYY TO RUMMMBLE!!!

[kmeyers]

fear the new mohawk.
prepare for battle.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=897796&postcount=153

why isn't my seventh member on that list?

[The Dosadi Experiment]

fear the new mohawk.
prepare for battle.

I'm so much prettier than you are.

:D

[The Fury]

Yes!!! We got Wallflower first!! Boo-Ya!! Now the only problem is. . .I wanted Persuasion :eek:
Well, well, well, is someone annoyed becuase I got Purple man's daughter? Hmmm?

I am also another perso who wanted persuasuion
Ain't it great when a plan comes together.


Don't just post a name.....let me know about how your team came together....
I'll post the back story when I feel that this is my final team or I make my final team.

[Atom_basher]

Fury, i had the same plan initially as u. To spread her pheremones through the air. trust me, its not gonna happen to my team.

[Jared_Humpherys]

A quick note concerning Phalanx absorbtion:

I point you to the final crossover issue of the Phalanx Covenant crossover in Cable, where Psylocke agreed to have her mind tampered with by that half-transmoded guy(not Hodge, but the name escapes me at the moment). He says to Psylocke, though this isn't quite a perfect quote: "The mindwipe will leave you vulnerable to full absrobtion by the Phalanx." Meaning that a mutant could resist the Phalanx due to being a mutant, but they could not do so while being mind-controlled. If anyone has that issue in front of them, and can relay the actual quote, as well as issue and page #, that'd be great. Mine's at my folk's house in the attic.

[Squila Lord]

Yeah, ok I haven't clue as of yet as to how this team come to be but they are:

Fixx- Telepath who utilizes psionic sprites to channel her powerful telepathy and psychokinetic powers.

Hack- Fixx's right hand man. She's given him a crash course in telepathy so there'll be no more frying people's minds. . .unless he wants to.

Dust- Her body explodes into sand which she propels into giant sandstorms; powerful enough to rend the flesh from bones.

Evangeline Whedon- Transforms into a giant, red, winged dragon. She may not breathe fire but she's strong, she's tough to pierce, she can fly(and carry my team at that), and I assume sharp claws go with that as well.

Ghost Girl- By now you may be saying, "All of his team in one place on dragon? Hah! Too easy!" Thats where Ghost Girl comes in, she protects my team by turning them intangible!

Rhapsody- A slightly nutty music teacher who is now quite sane thanks to a little telepathic therepy from Fixx and Hack. Her powers are similar to Persuasion's except they are carried on her voice. Apparently her voice can also become solid to form something like a rope.

Wallflower- Of the new X-men I give you: Laurie Collins. A girl with little experience, and almost no control of her pheremone powers. However thanks to one of Fixx's psionic sprites sitting on her shoulder and coaching her on just what to do she's become rather reliable. Her pheremones are released according to how she's feeling, they are linked to her emotions. If she's afraid everyone who breathes her pheremones is inexpicably afraid, if she's angry, if she's apathetic, and so on and so forth.

And thus because the opposing team, will be unable to see much thanks to Dust. And they will be un able to think and feel for themselves thanks to Fixx, Hack, Rhapsody, and Wallflower. I rather think the team name Clouded Judgment is quite appropriate.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

It was a cold day when on some far forgotten planet a madman had a most diabolical plan...

[Atom_basher]

So squilla, we can make it that team members have given their other members lessons, oh, this makes things ALOT better for mr.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

I'm glad that he gave us a little synopsis on how he's going to use his members, because that'll make taking them down a lot easier.

Whedon can be killed by burning her to a crisp before she can transform, after all she has no full control over her powers and they are activated when she bleeds. Suffocation is also an option, and of course telepathy.

basically she's very physical. That's her weakness.

Dust explodes into sand, if you can disperse the sand or refrain it from reforming she's pretty much dead.

if you can turn the wind around Wallflower can get her own team into trouble. It's like waving away a bad smell.

Rhapsody is dependable on her voice, slash her throat or take her breathe away and she's helpless. Also her voice is her main method of influence, if you wear earplugs, you're pretty safe.

[Atom_basher]

I'm glad that he gave us a little synopsis on how he's going to use his members, because that'll make taking them down a lot easier.

Whedon can be killed by burning her to a crisp before she can transform, after all she has no full control over her powers and they are activated when she bleeds. Suffocation is also an option, and of course telepathy.

basically she's very physical. That's her weakness.

Dust explodes into sand, if you can disperse the sand or refrain it from reforming she's pretty much dead.

if you can turn the wind around Wallflower can get her own team into trouble. It's like waving away a bad smell.

Rhapsody is dependable on her voice, slash her throat or take her breathe away and she's helpless. Also her voice is her main method of influence, if you wear earplugs, you're pretty safe.


sounds like youve been putting your analytical skills to work.

[The Lucky One]

So squilla, we can make it that team members have given their other members lessons, oh, this makes things ALOT better for mr.

Actually, I'm not sure that's the case. I know for sure that physical states don't carry over between battles -- if your character dies/loses an arm/transmodes in one round, he'll be back to normal by the next one, though he doesn't know that (and will forget after every round) -- but I don't think we've had a ruling on whether the characters can train each other between rounds. They have some time to plan strategies, but... hmmm. Maybe we need a ruling from Sheldon.

-D

[Atom_basher]

Actually, I'm not sure that's the case. I know for sure that physical states don't carry over between battles -- if your character dies/loses an arm/transmodes in one round, he'll be back to normal by the next one, though he doesn't know that (and will forget after every round) -- but I don't think we've had a ruling on whether the characters can train each other between rounds. They have some time to plan strategies, but... hmmm. Maybe we need a ruling from Sheldon.

-D

I agree, i think it should be how they are now, simply because, a person could easily say "ill have my team build armor for itself prior to the fight" or somthing like that

[BWilly]

Actually, I'm not sure that's the case. I know for sure that physical states don't carry over between battles -- if your character dies/loses an arm/transmodes in one round, he'll be back to normal by the next one, though he doesn't know that (and will forget after every round) -- but I don't think we've had a ruling on whether the characters can train each other between rounds. They have some time to plan strategies, but... hmmm. Maybe we need a ruling from Sheldon.

-D

Characters are in their current states. You cannot improve upon that by "training" between battles. That seems to clearly be a rule violation.

[The Lucky One]

Okay, just to kill some time before Sheldon posts the match order, and since I don't have my team description written up yet:

Aside from your own, what other team do you think you would have the most success using? Why?

-D

[Flight]

Just to get this clear, I will not be swapping ANY of my characters unless it is for both Havok & Polaris

[mattbib]

*talks trash*

[The Fury]

Aside from your own, what other team do you think you would have the most success using? Why?

-D
I think I could use BWilly's team quite well.


Opposite to Flight, I am willing to trade people, OK only 1 person. but only if what I get is a good deal in my view.

Also, has 15th and Nightcralwer actually picked their last members.


And that is some quailty trash talkign there Matt.

[Atom_basher]

besides my team i thik i could effectively use nightcrawlers.

[Plym]

13 Plym - Wolverine, Rogue, Archangel, Gambit, Chamber, Beast, Husk The world is in termoil...
It has been 3 years since the X-Men split and the world is now overrun with mutants.
Dotted around the world are Arena's where lots of mutants are going missing. Beast is very worried about this and calls Rogue & Gambit (who are now married) to see if they are interested in becoming a team to infiltrate the Arena.
Beast also recrutes Husk who he finds at the Guthrie residence. She tells Hank that she is worried about Sam as she thinks he is in one of the temas in the Arena.
Archangel and Chamber still both love Paige so they ask Beast if they can join too. Beast agrees but warns them that they are a team so no squabbling.
Lastly is Wolverine, Hanks old teammate who owes him a favour.

This group of mutants must band together to beat the other teams and take control of the Arena and stop this bloodshed. They must confront old friends who have turned and try to rescue those that are brainwashed

They are... Power X!

:)

[Atom_basher]

What do you gus thikn is the most underestimated team in the lot?

[Plym]

What do you gus thikn is the most underestimated team in the lot? Oh! What an excellent question!
Hmmm I think maybe... The Lucky One's :)

[The Lucky One]

Oh! What an excellent question!
Hmmm I think maybe... The Lucky One's :)

SHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D

-D

[Atom_basher]

Theres one person on The lucky ones team that really worries me, but im not going to tell who.

[The Fury]

Theres one person on The lucky ones team that really worries me, but im not going to tell who.
I fear none of them.

[Flight]

Do not underestimate The Furious

[Atom_basher]

I fear none of them.


I never said i feared any of them, one just poses a problem on how to deal with them

[The Fury]

I never said i feared any of them, one just poses a problem on how to deal with them
Well, condidering only one of the is the counter part in a sense to what has mostyly been the dicusion of this entire thread. I'll guess it's him.

Even so, None pose a problem.

[Atom_basher]

Well, condidering only one of the is the counter part in a sense to what has mostyly been the dicusion of this entire thread. I'll guess it's him.

Even so, None pose a problem.


its actually not a guy.

[Squila Lord]

Actually, I'm not sure that's the case. I know for sure that physical states don't carry over between battles -- if your character dies/loses an arm/transmodes in one round, he'll be back to normal by the next one, though he doesn't know that (and will forget after every round) -- but I don't think we've had a ruling on whether the characters can train each other between rounds. They have some time to plan strategies, but... hmmm. Maybe we need a ruling from Sheldon.
-D

I'm glad that he gave us a little synopsis on how he's going to use his members, because that'll make taking them down a lot easier.

Whedon can be killed by burning her to a crisp before she can transform, after all she has no full control over her powers and they are activated when she bleeds. Suffocation is also an option, and of course telepathy.

basically she's very physical. That's her weakness.

Dust explodes into sand, if you can disperse the sand or refrain it from reforming she's pretty much dead.

if you can turn the wind around Wallflower can get her own team into trouble. It's like waving away a bad smell.

Rhapsody is dependable on her voice, slash her throat or take her breathe away and she's helpless. Also her voice is her main method of influence, if you wear earplugs, you're pretty safe.

What you fail to see, Dosadi, is that Ghost Girl makes my ENTIRE TEAM invulnerable to physical attacks. And, TLO, it doesn't really matter that they can't train between matches because I have all the time I need for Fixx to give Hack a crash course in Telepathy with mah in-tang-i-bil-i-tyyyyyyyy! :D :D :D

[Atom_basher]

What you fail to see, Dosadi, is that Ghost Girl makes my ENTIRE TEAM invulnerable to physical attacks. And, TLO, it doesn't really matter that they can't train between matches because I have all the time I need for Fixx to give Hack a crash course in Telepathy with mah in-tang-i-bil-i-tyyyyyyyy! :D :D :D

unless ghost girl is invulnerable to telepathy, no such thing will be happening against my team.

[Squila Lord]

*cough* yes well. . .hmmm have I given too much away already? Probably. *cough*Hack*cough*Fixx*cough*cough*

[The Fury]

Many years ago, a mutant named Sir Jim Jaspers became the Prime Minister of Great Britain. His main promiss to the citizens of Britian were that he superhumans would no longer concern their life, they will all be counted and he would keep you safe from them.

He immediately started his schemes, and created the Beetlemen, and army of armoured men to round up all the superhumans and put them into camps. But this man was not mad, just a genious.

It was not long until the UN heard strange rumors that these superhumans were being killed instead of monitered and asked, in sercret, the Avengers to look into it. But Jaspers had contacts with the UN, and as soonas the Avengers arrived on British soil they were hunted and killed.

Jaspers spoke to the world about the incident, he lied and said that a group of mutants had killed the World greatest heroes. Anti-mutant histeria ripped through the world and it was not long until Magneto, self named leader of the mutant race, declared war on the humans.

A full scale mutant/human war broke out. Becuase of the situation many mutants fled to America where they fought they might be safe, but it was not to be, after a short time America became the main battle field. On one side the techo armies of Europe's Beetlemen, America's Ironmen and Sentinels, on the other every mutant to ever be born.

The mutants were hopefully outnumbered, with only about 10 million mutants while the human race range in their billions. But even worse, Magneto learned that a new machine was being built, designed by Jim Jaspers and built by Dr. Trask, it was callled The Fury, and it was designed to kill every mutant left.

Magneto took inititive and attacked it construction base head on, but it was already complete and easily destroyed him. The Fury ventured out slowly destroying all mutants left. But the humans grew impatiant, they wanted to end the war once and for all. On desperation they released a large amount of Nuclear Bombs to destory the remaining mutant, it nearly succeeded, leaving on a few handfulls of mutant left. But unknown to them The fury ws located in the blast zone, due to the radiation and fallout, it started to get errors and no longer could determine between human and mutant. Unstoppable it walk across the world kill all that remain, human and mutant alike, nothing could stop it.

When only 7 mutants were left, a cosmic being, of immense power, revealed himself to them. He offered them a deal, if they could succeed in a tournament to mutants he would rid their world of the The Fury and reunite the world again.

The mutants accepted his offer. They are the Survivors of Earth-742

They are:

Rachel Grey - The only telepath left on Earth. And one of only 3 left to face The Fury in battle before.

Northstar - Witnessed the death of nearly all Alpha, Beta and Gamma Flight at the hands of the Ironmen, and has been running since.

Cannonball - Nick named 'Watcher', His ability to survive The Fury's blast made it easy for him to keep an eye on it.

Warpath - Husband of Rachel Grey, was by her side since The Fury killed the rest of Magneto's X-Force division.

Persuasion - Daughter of Purple Man, saved from the same fate as the rest of Alpha Flight by Northstar.

Windshear - Was Magneto's main Force shielder, but never accompanied him to The fury's construction.

And Rictor - To young to fight at the time, he ws a young mutant, but now has leaned to use his abilities well.



---------------------------

Hows that? Too Long?

[Atom_basher]

*cough* yes well. . .hmmm have I given too much away already? Probably. *cough*Hack*cough*Fixx*cough*cough*

Fix could be easily dealt with. and dont forget ghost girl can only make things that are reall close to her intangible

[Squila Lord]

Group hug!!

[Atom_basher]

Group hug!!


Just because your intangible doesnt mean u cant be hurt by energy blasts.

[Squila Lord]

Just because your intangible doesnt mean u cant be hurt by energy blasts.

actually. . .it does (thanks to an unnamed source I can disagree with you) Kitty Pride says it feels weird but doesn't actually hurt her. Plus intangible means its slightly harder for telepaths to get a hold on their minds.

[Atom_basher]

actually. . .it does (thanks to an unnamed source I can disagree with you) Kitty Pride says it feels weird but doesn't actually hurt her. Plus intangible means its slightly harder for telepaths to get a hold on their minds.


Actually no, Kitty Pryde is vulnerable to psionic attacks

[BWilly]

Theres one person on The lucky ones team that really worries me, but im not going to tell who.

In this game it honestly isn't as important who you have as how you use them. Also more important is your knowledge and creativity. For this reason, Lucky One is one of those that I fear the most.

[Atom_basher]

In this game it honestly isn't as important who you have as how you use them. Also more important is your knowledge and creativity. For this reason, Lucky One is one of those that I fear the most.

Well good thing i havent entered before, i can get pretty darn creative, and no body knows to what degree.

[Sheldon]

The scheldule and divisions will be up shortly...

[Squila Lord]

yayness!!!

[Atom_basher]

I guess i better think of a REAL team name and story soon.

[Sheldon]

Check out the league site: www.freewebs.com/mutantleague

I'll spruce it up some more tonight....but the standings and schedule are up....
If people are wondering how the standings will work I'll post the official rules later. But basically your team gets 2 points for a win, one point for a tie and nothing for a loss. After the round robin, the division winners will have a 1st round bye, and the 2nd place team from westchester will play the 3rd place team in Genosha and vice versa.

If teams that finish in a tie the 1st tie breaker will be head to head record....if that doesn't decide it the team with the better vote differential will be ranked higher....anyways I'll post the complete rules later.

[Sheldon]

In case you missed my previous post here it is:
The schedule and standings are online on the site....
www.freewebs.com/mutantleague

I'll spruce it up some more tonight....but the standings and schedule are up....
If people are wondering how the standings will work I'll post the official rules later. But basically your team gets 2 points for a win, one point for a tie and nothing for a loss. After the round robin, the division winners will have a 1st round bye, and the 2nd place team from westchester will play the 3rd place team in Genosha and vice versa.

If teams that finish in a tie the 1st tie breaker will be head to head record....if that doesn't decide it the team with the better vote differential will be ranked higher....anyways I'll post the complete rules later.



Here are the break downs of divisions

Conference X

Westchester

Team Name

Flight
The Fury
Nightcrawler
Tre Styles


Genosha

Team Name

Hellfrost/Phoenixboyx
The Lucky One
kmeyers
Plym

Conference M

Australia

Team Name

atom_basher
The Dosadi Experiment
Mattbib
Taskmaster


Madripoor

Team Name

The 15th Sven
Bwilly/Venuscameback
Siddon
Squila Lord/Frustrated


As for the schedule....I made it so you'd fight on the same day each week.

[The Fury]

Flight
The Fury
Damn you Sheldon, you did that on purpose.

[Sheldon]

Damn you Sheldon, you did that on purpose.
I randomized it at www.random.org

I'll admit when I saw you too together....I chuckled...

[The Fury]

I randomized it at www.random.org

I'll admit when I say you too together....I chuckled...
Damn you www.random.org. You did that on purpose.


Isn't it weird that some bloke made an entire website about random data when it is like one of the most simplest programming functions.

[Nightcrawler]

Ya, you talk up the Fury and Flight all you want, we'll see what happens come gameday...

[Taskmaster]

When the mysterious Mr. D. R. Winn set out to form a team to win the Mutant League and poove whom is the strogest he searched far and wide to find some of the most powerful and deadly mutants (and mutates) alive

From Russia he found Black Death -A mutant with psionic power that subverts the will and intellect of any sentient being to his own and that was infected with a disease intended to kill him, but instead it mutated him further making his body constantly emit toxins that kill within seconds. He also possesses a protective exoskeleton to protect himself from the outside word as well as to control the secretion of his toxins so they only kill whom he wants to

Next he recruited the mysterious Krueger whom has the mutant ability to supress the mutagenic properties of others, negating ANY superhuman power directed at him and instantly turning any mutant's power against them, knocking them unconscious

He then found Host a mutant that can sense germs, bacteria and viral agents, store them harmlessly in her body and release and direct themto infect her opponents permanently or temporarily

From the Savage Land he recruited Leash a young mutant with the ability to summon anyones astral form form out of their body and then snare them in her mental binding, placing their body and powers under her thrall

From Germany he recruted the deadly Agent Zero (formerly known as Maverick) whowears a costume of made of vibranium, which dampen ambient sound and effectively blend into surrounding shadows, making him both inaudible and invisible and which can seal exposed areas of his body for protection. He is a trained expert in covert operations and many forms of hand to hand combat as well as fighting with bladed weapons as well as a precision marksman. His D.N.A. contains age suppression factor which slows his aging process. He possesses the mutant ability to absorb kinetic energy/impact without harm to himself, no known limit has been found, he has even survived a drop from an airplane above the Swiss Alps. Previously he could just store the energy, but after his infection from the Legacy Virus his powers mutated to the point where he must release the stored up energy once it reaches a certain level, usually releasing it through his hands, creating concussive force blasts, which since his transformation has transformed as a concussive-corrosive energy via an acidic enzyme secreted from his fingertips, specifically designed by the Weapon X program to counteract an opponent‘s self-healing abilities by reversing the process so that the more an opponent attempts to heal an enzyme infected wound, the worse it becomes. He can also channel absorbed energy into raw strength, allowing him to deliver blows ten times stronger than normal. He can also use his powers as a devastating punch that hits with ten times the force of a normal punch and he can also re-channel absorbed kinetic energy as intense heat, that can even burn his own hands. Due to Weapon X, his body has no natural scent, neither does his equipment. His equipment includes wrist-mounted plasma blasters, pistols that fire bullets made of adamantium, a hydraulic bolt gun, armor-piercing bullets, thermite bombs, an adamantium knife and adamantium bullets for his guns as well as at least once bullet made of adamantium piercing “anti-metal“.

Joining next was Mountjoy whogenerates a basilisk field that dampens the reflex actions of others and can physically merge himself with others and take over their bodies, including any powers they possess. He also absorbs human forms into himself for sustenance

the Final member is the mercenary Deadpool who's powers include artificially induced healing factor given to him by the Weapon X program. This healing factor allows him to heal from near fatal wounds in minutes and regenerate lost appendages. Deadpool is skilled in the use of many martial arts and has perfected his own unique fighting style. He has military training and is an expert in the use of all Nato and Warsaw Pact arms. He is also extremely skilled in the use of edged weapons, especially the katana blade. He has been show to use explosives and any other weapon necessary to complete a job. Deadpool has also used on a frequent bases a personal teleportation device, capable of teleporting him and up to two other people or an equivalent amount of equipment up to ten miles, and an image inducer allowing him to take on the holographic appearance of anyone. Due to a curse by the mad titan Thanos, Deadpool is effectively immortal and will never feel death’s embrace due to this curse.

Promising them wealth, power, and their fondest desires when they win the tourneyment, they are the Dark Horsemen, little do they realize that their mysterious benefactor is Apocalypse in disguise, using them to test their various opponents and in the end planning to use the survivors as his new Horsemen in a final bid to take over the Earth

[Sheldon]

Great stuff Taskmaster!

[The Fury]

Great stuff Taskmaster!
I'm not moanign but not one person commented on my history thingy.

:(

Not even to sy it's crap.

Either way, Nice Taskmaster.

[Sheldon]

The Survivors of Earth 742 had a good description too!

[Sheldon]

The rules and regulations page is up!

All that I have left to do is update the rosters page...

[Taskmaster]

Thanks guys, YOU'RE ALL GOING DOWN

[The Fury]

The Survivors of Earth 742 had a good description too!
Well, you only said that because of my post above but hey, It worked. :D

[Sheldon]

Oh yeah, i forgot to mention this. There are two fights a day, one will be posted at about 8am eastern, and the next one at about 3:30pm eastern. Both polls will be active for 24 hours. Make sure you submit your strategy early!

As many people discovered last year, PM's are very limited in the amount of text they can have in them. Some strategies I got came in 10 parts.....My inbox will fill up very fast..... so I highly recommend that you send your strategies to my gmail account....

It is sheldonchoo @ gmail.com just don't space it out like I did.

[The Lucky One]

Thanks guys, YOU'RE ALL GOING DOWN

Been there, done that.


Hey, when I open up the league page, there's no link to the rules and the one to the team rosters seems broken. Is anybody else having that problem, or is it just me?

-D

[The Fury]

Hey, when I open up the league page, there's no link to the rules and the one to the team rosters seems broken. Is anybody else having that problem, or is it just me?

-D
It's working fine for me. Might just be you.

[Squila Lord]

I can't look at the roster page.

[Flight]

I REFUSE to fight Furious!

[The Lucky One]

Hey, first forfeit of the year! Congrats on the win, Fury!


So does he still have to write up a strategy?

-D

[Flight]

No, he feels the same way

[The Fury]

No, he feels the same way
Meeting was inevitable, Flight. Although the honour should have been left to the final. This is a battle we must face.

[Flight]

Meeting was inevitable, Flight. Although the honour should have been left to the final. This is a battle we must face. I refuse to take down Survivors of Earth-742

[The Fury]

I refuse to take down Survivors of Earth-742
I too do not want to take down (Insert Flight's team name here), but alas It must be done. For the better good.

[Sheldon]

Everything but the rosters should work....I'm gonna do that page today....I was kinda hoping to have team names and stuff for it

[The Lucky One]

Cool. I'll be back later with a backstory for my team, but for now just call them The Eclectics.

-D

[Siddon]

Phalanx 2.0 (cause if it ain’t Sid’s screwed)

The safe guard was supposed to go off in Psylocke, Lang would betray the Phalanx and the X-men would save the day, but Lang forgot the laws of mysticism that were still interlocked in his partner Cameron Hodge. The safeguards Lang had attempted to install broke down while in transfer. Hodges spell kept him from being killed and a safe guard such as Lang’s would kill Hodge. The very enigmatic mysticism and the very biological subconscious worked together to destroy humanity. But now comes the bargain, conquering one plane of reality is one thing, while infecting all of reality is quite another.

To choose a team to do battle the Phalanx 2.0 decides to take several of the strongest mutants in earth form as well as a support team to facilitate the logical problems that will occur on the field of battle. Unfortunately with in the Phalanx there are still problems as each being who is assimilated still owns a certain feeling of self and may not battle with such strength and vigor unless an incentive is made. The incentive is this, for purposes of scientific research the Phalanx will agree to leave this Earth as petri dish for biological/technological improvement, those who wish to stay will be given their life back others will be able to stay interlocked with-in the Phalanx. The collective has chosen seven of varying power and varying reason for battle here are the bio’s of the four most powerful 2 of Good, 2 of Evil.

The first to be chosen is the most powerful Psy talent the Phalanx has ever come into contact with. Unto each generation new children are born with powers to rival there predecessors. Young Carter is one of those children, at a tender young age Carter had shown the moral ambiguities that his powers begat him. Our records indicate his first major task as a mutant actually had him cross the boundaries of reality to save the mind of a man whom his mother had fallen for. For his second major task he violated a code which even the deities the humans pray to would never do, he took away a mans free will and forced him to fall in love. In Asgard the being of evil is Loki who is a god of mischief and a trickster, while Christians believe in a being who is the master of lies. This young Carter has an evil beyond even these two. When we win Carter has chosen to remain in assimilation with the Phalanx.

For a being such as Carter safeguards must be put in place, this is after all only logical. If we do not Carter may take control of all realities with out the collective. Logic dictates that the being placed in check and defense of Carter must be a being of both great power and great incentive. If there is a being who may match wits and powers with Carter it is Polaris. Polaris and Charles Xavier were the last mutants to be assimilated into the Phalanx here on Earth. Polaris’s magnetic abilities made her our most dangerous opponent. She also fills the very critical need we have to safeguard against electromagnetic devises and also Carters need to take all reality away from the collective. We were only able to assimilate her by going through her fragile mind when Xavier’s guard was down. Carter has taken more away from Polaris then anyone else she has lost her love, her freedom and her sense of being. Winning this tournament would allow her and Havok to be as one and it would rid her of Carter. When we win Polaris has chosen to stay on Earth and remove herself from the Phalanx.

The collectives relationship with Forge was always a tenuous one at best. To the collective he could be viewed as a god able to expand and create anything we wish. We could always control Forge without assimilation yet we could only forced him to do things and his imagination was stifled and limited both by his resistant will and his biological limitations. With the incentive and by assimilating him into the collective of the Phalanx we will expand his God like powers to create anything he wishes and we will given him billions of hands to do what his two were unable to. His power shall terrify them all. He understands that we are neither good nor evil and in his heart and mind he accepts this. When the contest is over he shall return to earth if he does not chose to take his own life in disgrace over his very human emotions.

The collective is pleased to send our forth the mutant named Paradigm. Unlike our original strain which was created by American government, Paradigm was created by the Chinese at the behest of an Alien. We do not know if it was our forefathers or their forefathers which gave China the sample but we do know that our seed is within him and even if striped of our unified collective for this tournament it is with in him that our collective will be present. He will continue with the Phalanx.

The next three are mutants of great interest and power to the collective, Ashley Martin projects her own life force in inanimate objects, by spreading her life force through the Phalanx all we wish to acquire we will. She will return to earth Timeshadow is a being of great power with a great limitation, the ability to shift out of synch was a power which all revered but his physical limitations made him but a man assimilating him into the Phalanx allows him his strength and lifeforce to be expanded to an infinite amount. He will be needed for the collective to establish and work, he has also chosen to stay with the collective. Commcast was always a mutant who was laughed at, electronic telepathy was always a power which he had always regretted. He would watch others with powers of strength and fire and feel shame. Now that he has been brought into the collective his power is now envied. Electromagnetic data transmissions will aid all others on his team as now they can create and communicate at the speed of light. He will stay with the collective.

[BWilly]

I still say that they can't be assimulated.

[mattbib]

And even if they can be assimilated, they can't come into the battle already assimilated. They have to come into the battle as is.

[Siddon]

HEY EVERYBODY LETS PILE ON SIDDON AGAIN ITS ALL GOOD CAUSE HE DOESN"T HAVE FEELINGS OR ANYTHING. Jeez even when I do something in fun you guys have to pile on with the critisims.

And even if they can be assimilated, they can't come into the battle already assimilated. They have to come into the battle as is.

Well I did draft a timeshifter, and I am allowed 1 magneto leveled feat by drafting Polaris and I do have a mutant who can bond himself with other mutants while there powers work. Anyways I do need Sheldon or Lucky one to make a ruling but heres the quote from

8th page of Cable 16 Lang to Psylocke

Lang: you are going to submerge your consciousness and allow an override system to assume command.

late on the page

This procedure will be impossible without your complete cooperation. Submitting to an over-ride will nullify your main block against assimilation!

Later on the page

You will be totally vulnerable to complete absorption, but it is the only way to place you in a strategically advantageous location!

Few pages later

Hodge: You are no longer consciously resisting this absorption process?
Psylocke As you can scan I am now a totally submissive pre-programed Tool of the collective.

I think thats enough as Psylocke was assimilated only with a fail safe, but y'know Sheldon should make a ruling and if its against me I'll have to draft a new team now won't I.

[Squila Lord]

Sorry Siddon, If I can't have Hack get a quick lesson ahead of time, then your team can't be assimilated ahead of time. (Are they allowed to have information before hand? They know they're GOING to fight right? just not that they DID fight?) So maybe you're team can have planned to assimilate as soon as they get into combat.

[Siddon]

I don't expect them to be able to be assimilated ahead of time, but I did draft Polaris and Carter who should be able to put up a double layerd shield long enough for Paradigm to interlock with a willing Timeshadow and Forge seperate from the timestream so that Forge can unlock the Phalanx part of Paradigm and the team can be assimalated.

And before everyone jumps down my throat about Timeshadow not being to take others with him I would like to know where this idea came from cause I re-read X-factor 5 and I didn't see anything about that! It's not in his character bio and its not in the comic and it doesn't make a lot of sense that his clothing can time travel with him but biological objects can't?

[Atom_basher]

One day Tad Carter was practicing his Telekinetic and telepathic abilities, when he became faint, and lost all control of his motor functions and a white flash scoured his vision. His mind was instantly transformed into a state of astral Euphoria. He felt his soul being lifted, and being transported from his body. After a long journey his soul stopped moving, it had reached his destination. When his vision came to, he found his astral form in floating in a glowing white room, as he looked forward, he saw a beautiful Native American, Woman, An older black man, A woman with a tattoo on her contemplative face, A Blonde man with a brave appearance, an Asian man who seemed to have a warriors spirit, and A young Hawaiian man. As Tad began to approach the other confused inhabitants of the white room an awe inspiring white light surged throughout the room, when the light dispersed an entity of pure light lay in its wake. “Welcome my chosen,” said the being, “You are probably wondering why I have brought you here. I have searched the earth for warriors, who I consider worthy enough to comprise my battalion, and I couldn’t have chosen better than you seven. Sage, with her infinite wisdom, Mondo with his earth moving will, Centennial with his unwavering strength, Moonstar, with the heart of the warrior, Jade dragon with your spirit of the imperial dragon, jack of all trades Manikin and lastly Tad Carter with his ability to move mind and body. You will represent me, and fight as my champions” said the spirit with a sense of proudness. “When the time comes, I will call upon you to defeat all obstacles” and with that said the entity waved his hands and Tad felt his soul begin to return to his body. When Tad awoke he did not remember much of what had happened, just an feeling of an impending battle, A strong bond with six people he had never met and the name neXus engrained in his head.

Sorry for the long story, i hope you guys take the time to read it.

and the name of my team is neXus

[Atom_basher]

I don't expect them to be able to be assimilated ahead of time, but I did draft Polaris and Carter who should be able to put up a double layerd shield long enough for Paradigm to interlock with a willing Timeshadow and Forge seperate from the timestream so that Forge can unlock the Phalanx part of Paradigm and the team can be assimalated.

And before everyone jumps down my throat about Timeshadow not being to take others with him I would like to know where this idea came from cause I re-read X-factor 5 and I didn't see anything about that! It's not in his character bio and its not in the comic and it doesn't make a lot of sense that his clothing can time travel with him but biological objects can't?


If you go to uncannyxmen.net it doesnt say anything about being able to bring others with him, if anything, he seems like only he can time shift, ALSO how is carter supposed to make a sheild AND convince his entire team to be assimilated, your plan doesnt m


timeshifting talent allows HIM to maneuver among the nearby timeframes, generate extra-temporal phase forms, and shift HIMSELF out of temporal synch ake sense.

thats whatuncannyxmen.net says, what gives u the indication that he can bring others

[BWilly]

HEY EVERYBODY LETS PILE ON SIDDON AGAIN ITS ALL GOOD CAUSE HE DOESN"T HAVE FEELINGS OR ANYTHING. Jeez even when I do something in fun you guys have to pile on with the critisims.

I don't think its that everyone is teaming up on you. It just seems that you are the only one that believes your team can all be assimulated.

but y'know Sheldon should make a ruling and if its against me I'll have to draft a new team now won't I.

I agree that we do need a ruling before battles begin.

I do remember earlier Siddon stating that it was the responsibility of the person with the character to prove without a doubt what a character can and cannot do. I don't believe he has done that. It is still entirely too unclear.

[Siddon]

It just keeps coming doesn't it,

even when I do a bio thing for fun you people jump down my throat for what I may do in the game. No great Bio Sid, really creative, no I like your strategy you obviously put a lot of time in it. No I get attacks on my characters powers that I have to spend hours of my life defending it.


If you go to uncannyxmen.net it doesnt say anything about being able to bring otehrs with him, if anything, he seems like only he can time shift, ALSO how is carter supposed to make a sheild AND convince his entire team to be assimilated, your plan doesnt maake sense

Wait so your whole argument about Timeshadow's powers were based on what you didn't read at Uncanny.net.......

First of all in X-factor issue 5 his whole team shows up in a room that was originally shown to be empty. Not solid proof I grant you but if you have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in comics to express the contrary then you don't have a case. Kitty pryde can phase her clothing and other people with her I see no logical reason to say Timeshadows powers are otherwise.

Secondlly the physics make absolutely no sense, he can take clothing with him and clothing is not part of a persons being.

As for the Carter thing, he did pry a guy's consiousness out of another reality do you realistically think he can't multi-task. It's not hard to overtake Forges mind the Phalanx did it willingly in the past.

[Atom_basher]

Siddon. go back and read the edit i made.

[Squila Lord]

Siddon, remember that inspite of what we say the voters will decide who wins, convince them not us. The "everyone's against me" thing is getting annoying. In the past two years I have had to scrap some really good strategies because of rulings, but you have to go with the flow and find something that works. :cool:

[Atom_basher]

does anyone like my teams story :(

[PhoenixBoyX]

To everyone, Siddon, you are included, I just read all the bios and team stuff, you all did a kick ass job! 100000 points guys! We're not just fighting get strategists, we're fighting amazingly creative people!
-Nick, who is preping for Tuesday, biotches!

[Siddon]

So a fan site.............. you have nothing else to argue but a fan site, I can't argue a fan site to make my point I have to re-read a dozen comics. But you, you can quote a fansite and everything is Kosher.

This is what the same fan site said about Kitty Pryde

phase HER molecules into intangibility, letting HER move through objects, walk on air, and disrupt electronic systems, razor sharp bone claw

So are you going to tell us now Kitty can't phase other people.

Explain to me logically how clothing can travel with him then, cause I don't get the physics explain it to me.

[Atom_basher]

So a fan site.............. you have nothing else to argue but a fan site, I can't argue a fan site to make my point I have to re-read a dozen comics. But you, you can quote a fansite and everything is Kosher.

This is what the same fan site said about Kitty Pryde

phase HER molecules into intangibility, letting HER move through objects, walk on air, and disrupt electronic systems, razor sharp bone claw

So are you going to tell us now Kitty can't phase other people.

Explain to me logically how clothing can travel with him then, cause I don't get the physics explain it to me.


Your tactic for arguing just isnt gonna cut it, so why dont you stop, i DIDNT say a fansite wasnt legitimate, i was just sayiong if a more credicle source was available we should go by that, since there IS none, guess what, we use the fansite

[Siddon]

Its like I am having to fight three guys at once

I don't think its that everyone is teaming up on you. It just seems that you are the only one that believes your team can all be assimulated.

I do remember earlier Siddon stating that it was the responsibility of the person with the character to prove without a doubt what a character can and cannot do. I don't believe he has done that. It is still entirely too unclear.

Siddon, remember that in spite of what we say the voters will decide who wins, convince them not us. The "everyone's against me" thing is getting annoying. In the past two years I have had to scrap some really good strategies because of rulings, but you have to go with the flow and find something that works

The people arguing against the assimilation are the people who will face me in a tournament, that’s a fact. I would say you guys are jocking for position so that you don't have to face off against my team.

Can't think of a creative way to beat the Phalanx,

bitch, moan and complain over logistics.


I don't believe everyone is against me, but I do think I am being piled on by several people, another fact. As for proof beyond a reasonable doubt I actually said close to the opposite of that Billy I asked for any reasonable proof any showing of the Collective man being able to do those advanced powers outside of China. And Squila the fact is you wanted me to be stripped of my team and given to FunkyGreenJerusalem I didn't forget that.

[kmeyers]

As for proof beyond a reasonable doubt I actually said close to the opposite of that Billy I asked for any reasonable proof any showing of the Collective man being able to do those advanced powers outside of China.
..and it seems to me, that they are asking the same thing now, about Timeshadows's abilty to shift other people...

is there any reasonable proof that Tineshadow has, or can bring other people with him?

his powers are kind of vague.

[The Lucky One]

-Nick, who is preping for Tuesday, biotches!

As the first biotch... glad to hear it. Till then.
:D

-D

[Atom_basher]

Its like I am having to fight three guys at once

The people arguing against the assimilation are the people who will face me in a tournament, that’s a fact. .

or maybe JUST maybe, we are arguing with you because you are WRONG. but no. thats not possible in siddons world.

[Tre Styles]

Hey guys, here is the Team Bio....er, short story.(I kinda got carred away a little) for my team EXCEL. Now, mind you I DID take a few liberaties with Static and Integer, seeing as they only appeared in one X-issue each. Static was in X-Men:Magneto War one-shot, and very little face time, but hey....she did take on Prof. X and was able to hold him at bay for a little bit.........and Integer appeared in X-Man #50 which was a crossover issue with GENX #50. He had even less face time than Static, but I used both appearences of these characters, as well as the bios on UncannyXmen.net to kinda make it somewhat logical why they'd be with my other characters who were a lot easier to hook up. Okay, I'm done talking....u can see the rest for yourself...whew... :cool: :
"It's been quite a day in Mutant Town." Lucas Bishop thought to himself as he drove back to the mansion. Between splitting his time between being a cop and an X-Man, Bishop had his hands full. But it was about to get even stranger. As he pulled on to the highway, a strange, pinkish, glowing portal opened in front of him. "What in the hell?!...." Bishop shouted as he tried to slam on the breaks, but the portal's gravitational force was too strong. “Can’t stop……” Bishop grunted as he was pulled into the gaping hole.
CRASH!!! Bishop found himself and his car smack dab in the middle of what looked to be a deserted city. His car had slammed into an abandoned building. His door was jammed. Bishop tried to kick the door open, but to no avail. He was about to use the kinetic energy that he had absorbed from the crash, when a hand came through the broken glass in the back.
"Need a hand?" said a familiar voice. Bishop looked back, it was Katherine Pryde, also referred to as Kitty Pryde, Codename: Shadowcat. He took her hand and felt the strange feeling of being intangible as he was pulled out of the car. Holding onto Kitty's back was another familar face. That of Pitor Rasputin aka the steel strongman Colossus.

"Where are we?" Bishop asked as he quickly got himself together. The timelost X-Man had been through several time jaunts and alternate realities before, and had learned to adjust such strange happenings.

“We don’t know Lucas” Kitty stated, “ Pete and I were in the Danger room, practicing with Rachel when the alarm went off. We went to investigate and then, there were these strange portals pullin’ us in. I saw Logan pulled into one, Kurt, and ‘Ro too. We have no idea where Rachel or the others went.”

“It is as if someone has selected several mutants for some cause and reason.” Colossus added. “We need to find a way out of here.”

“Glad to hear you guys say that. Can we help?” said a new voice. The three X-Men turned to see Amara Aquilla aka Magma, and the microwave wielding mutant Avenger Angelica Jones aka Firestar.

“Amara!” Kitty shouted. “Looks like we’re in the same boat, huh?”

“Yes, I suppose so.” Magma sighed.

“So what do we do now?” Firestar stated.

“We regroup. We find the others and find out what this is about.” Bishop said with determination. “We’ve got to push forward. Let’s move out.”

As they walked, they saw nothing but desolation, and destruction.
“What happened to …well, wherever we are?” Angelica wondered out loud.
“I have no idea, the devestation is quite great” Colossus pondered. “And yet, it has sad beauty to it.”

“Only the eyes of an artist” Kitty smiled slightly. As they turned the corner, they saw a strange being….almost translucent, and intangible in nature. It was the form of a man, and lay on the ground. Kitty approached the being with her arm outstretched.

“11…21….33….12…1122…” the being telepathically spoke into Kitty’s head. Kitty felt something beginning to cloud her mind.

“Kitty, get back!” Bishop shouted. He shot a blast of energy between Kitty and the being.

“Bishop, what in the world?!” Kitty said with a surprised look on her

“That’s Integer. A member of Gene Nation that fought the Generation X kids a few years back. He’s a being that lives in a mathematical state of existence, making him intangible and capable of scrambling the thought patterns of others.”

“And you know this how comrade?” Colossus asked.

“The Cerebro Files are very thorough” Bishop stated matter of factly.

“Oh.” Kitty sighed. “Well he looks like he needs our help. He’s lost just as we are. If you weren’t just shooting your energy around, you can see the guy’s just as confused as we are.”

“But how do we talk to it… er…, him to find out? “ Angelica questioned.

“Maybe I can help…” said another voice, that stepped out of the shadows.

The group swung around ready to fight. Fists clenched. Energy bursts ready to fly.

“Whoa…whoa….I’m not here to fight….”, the young woman said with her hands raised up. “I was on campus and this light just appeared….and then, I was here..”

“You…you’re…aren’t you an Acolyte? Kitty said questioningly. “Why should we trust you?”

“Um…yeah, …they called me Static….I was there right before the disaster in Genosha, but I remember fighting you guys…..well, not all of you….but Shadowcat…you were there. You heard the words that Xavier said… and after Cortez deserted us. I felt….well, I knew it was time for a change….so I started going back to school on the island, then ….then….the Sentinels came and…..” Static started to tear up.

“I know.” Kitty placed a reassuring arm on Static’s shoulders. “I lost my father there too. Hey, we’ve all made mistakes…..now you can help us find out how to talk to Integer?”

“Maybe. My powers sorta is in psionics too…I can disable his higher neurosynaptic functions… it will temporarily end any superhuman abilities but it might paralyze him if I’m not careful”

“Do it. But use caution.” Bishop stated sternly.

Static reached out to Integer with her power. She temporarily shuts him off. The others are surprised to see a regular man.

“h..help…need…find home…lost” Integer stammers. “Please.”

“It’s okay. You can come with us.” Amara says quietly to the man.

“Thank you…ugh…hurts.” Integer winced in pain as Static’s power began to hurt him.

“Shut it off now.” Bishop said with a forceful tone.

“You got it.” Static said as she stopped the flow of her power.

They watched in amazement as Integer transformed back into his translucent state. “I want you to keep an eye on both of them if they are going to be with us” Bishop turned and whispered to Kitty. “This may be a trap from either one of their groups.” Kitty nodded silently that she understood.

“We’d better get going….” Colossus stated. “It’s getting dark.”

“Agreed.” Bishop stated

“But where are we going?” Amara asked.

“Good question” Angelica muttered.

“Uh…hey, I know we’re not in Kansas anymore and all….but is the sky supposed to do that?” Static said as she pointed to the sky. As they looked up, they saw a huge astral face looming down on them.

“GREETINGS MUTANTS”. a loud voice shook in their heads.” I AM THE MASTER OF GAMES. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN BROUGHT HERE TO PARTICIPATE IN A TOURNAMENT THAT WILL DETERMINE THE FATE OF YOUR WORLD!”

“The Gamemaster?!” Kitty, Firestar, Colossus, and Magam shouted in unison.

“What are you up to?” Bishop yelled in anger. “Why are we here?! Where are the rest of the X-Men?!”

“THAT LUCAS BISHOP, I CANNOT TELL YOU. BUT KNOW THIS. THIS IS NOT MY OWN DOING, THERE ARE GREATER FORCES AT WORK. I AM BUT AN UNWILLING VESSEL. “
“Yeah right!!!” Kitty yelled back. “This is your MO!”

“NOT THIS TIME KATHERINE PRYDE. TRUE, I WAS MADE TO BRING YOU HERE. BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, AND CANNOT BE WASTED. YOU AND THOSE GATHERED WITH YOU MUST FIGHT IN THE CONTESTS THAT ARE TO COME AND YOU MUST EXCEL. THE FATE OF MUTANTKIND, AND THE VERY EARTH ITSELF IS RESTING ON YOUR SHOULDERS…….BE WARE, YOUR FIRST OPPONENTS APPROACH WITHIN A FEW DAYS. PREPARE YOURSELF!”

“What do you mean Gamemaster?!” Colossus questioned. “What is the danger to our world?!”

“ALAS, I CANNOT SAY NOW. BUT KNOW THAT I AM BEING DRAWN AWAY EVEN NOW…..OTHERS ARE HERE….AND ALL QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED IN TIME…….” And with that the Gamemaster’s astral form faded away.

“What do we do now?” Static asked.

“I guess we’d better prepare, and get to the bottom of this….” Bishop said.

And with that EXCEL is born…..


]

[Squila Lord]

Its like I am having to fight three guys at once





The people arguing against the assimilation are the people who will face me in a tournament, that’s a fact. I would say you guys are jocking for position so that you don't have to face off against my team.

Can't think of a creative way to beat the Phalanx,

bitch, moan and complain over logistics.


I don't believe everyone is against me, but I do think I am being piled on by several people, another fact. As for proof beyond a reasonable doubt I actually said close to the opposite of that Billy I asked for any reasonable proof any showing of the Collective man being able to do those advanced powers outside of China. And Squila the fact is you wanted me to be stripped of my team and given to FunkyGreenJerusalem I didn't forget that.


OK!! I am sick of this! Sheldon, can you rule in favor of this incredibly argumentative man? I'll beat you ANYWAY. You can do whatever you like Siddon! I still plan on winning the match. I'm not arguing against you because I'm afraid I'll lose (if that's what you think,) I'm arguing with you because I think you're just flat out WRONG! but whatever I really don't care how you wish to have it set up. Please Sheldon! For the sake of the Tournament's sanity. . .RULE IN HIS FAVOR!!

[The Lucky One]

I didn't think there was enough money in the world to make me get in the middle of this one... but it seems like the centerpoint of the whole debate might be a bit flawed. You're all arguing over whether the Phalanx can assimilate people. Paradigm -- while he contains Phalanx material -- is not Phalanx. He's not Technarch. He's a bizarre hybrid resembling the Borg, frankly, more than either of them.

So, looking at the ONE story arc he appeared in might be the key here. He had X-Force at his mercy, and wanted to study them. Did he assimilate them, logically the most efficient way to accomplish that goal? No. Because, I would argue, he can't. He's a hybrid with a definite human core, so absorbing other humans is probably out of his purview. What did he do instead? He controlled them by sending out techno-organic tendrils.

That said, my opinion -- and it's just that, an opinion -- is that Paradigm would not be able to physically assimilate his teammates into his body, but he could certainly extend his consciousness into them through his tendrils, making use of their powers and possibly minds in the process. Which it sounds to me is what Siddon really wants him to do anyway. But then, I could be wrong about that. I could be wrong about all of this.

Cast your opinions through your votes, guys. And all of us -- myself included -- need to be very, very aware not to make this personal, as all that leads to is bad feelings and accusations of unfair fights. It's a game. Play to win, but play nonetheless.

Oh, and you're all goin' down.
;)

-D

[Sheldon]

Ok Siddon,

Re: Your team doesn't start each match assimilated....they start as mattbib mentioned completely apart.

Re the whole assimilation issue - I was going to just let the voters decide if your strategy was viable. One strategy isn't going to win every match, I wanted to see if your team could adapt. If you do want to redraft your team, you'll have to do it in the next day.

It seemed to me that there was a reference to Psylocke getting partially assimilated. Can anyone else confirm this?

[HellFrost]

OK!! I am sick of this! Sheldon, can you rule in favor of this incredibly argumentative man? I'll beat you ANYWAY. You can do whatever you like Siddon! I still plan on winning the match. I'm not arguing against you because I'm afraid I'll lose (if that's what you think,) I'm arguing with you because I think you're just flat out WRONG! but whatever I really don't care how you wish to have it set up. Please Sheldon! For the sake of the Tournament's sanity. . .RULE IN HIS FAVOR!!
VOTE FOR SIDDON!!!!!!!

[Sheldon]

Team rosters are up on the site

[Tre Styles]

Ya, you talk up the Fury and Flight all you want, we'll see what happens come gameday...

Indeed. To everything there IS a season..... :cool:

[Nightcrawler]

Indeed. To everything there IS a season..... :cool:

Nice story, but I guess the world is doomed. You're facing me in the first round.

[Siddon]

I obviously have a lot to address but I will take it one at a a time.

A quick note concerning Phalanx absorbtion:

I point you to the final crossover issue of the Phalanx Covenant crossover in Cable, where Psylocke agreed to have her mind tampered with by that half-transmoded guy(not Hodge, but the name escapes me at the moment). He says to Psylocke, though this isn't quite a perfect quote: "The mindwipe will leave you vulnerable to full absrobtion by the Phalanx." Meaning that a mutant could resist the Phalanx due to being a mutant, but they could not do so while being mind-controlled. If anyone has that issue in front of them, and can relay the actual quote, as well as issue and page #, that'd be great. Mine's at my folk's house in the attic.

Is that enough of a confirmation for you Sheldon? Because scanning through the collections of some you the only one who has this issue is MattBib. I am happy to see that the one person not involved in the tournament to post here is on my side (and thus debunks BWilly theory that no one believes my characters can do this).

..and it seems to me, that they are asking the same thing now, about Timeshadows's abilty to shift other people...

is there any reasonable proof that Tineshadow has, or can bring other people with him?

his powers are kind of vague.

There is nothing in any comic I have read to state that he can’t bring other people with him. Atom based his opinion on the wording of a definition in Uncanny.net and SOLELY that. I do not feel that this is enough to warrant a huge limitation on my character. There are two reasonable theories in which I believe his power can work I would site the Terminator and Kitty Pryde as the basis for these two theories.

Atom’s opinion is that his powers work like the Terminator in that only his biological self can transport through time. His logic is flawed in the sense that for the Terminator to time travel he could only bring himself which mean no clothes no weapons nothing that wasn’t attached to the person that was doing the traveling. For Timeshadow he can travel with his clothes, boots, metal etc. this is a fact that can not be repudiated.

My opinion is that his powers are based more on Kitty Prydes power in which all he has contact with can travel with him. Kitty can make anything intangible she has contact with, clothes, people etc otherwise we would have naked Kitty’s running around.

I find it highly objectionable that any player can pull a characters limit out of thin air. I am sure not a single person here would want me to do that to there characters I only ask that its not done with mine.

[Nightcrawler]

Can we please stop? Sheldon already made his choice.

[Siddon]

Sheldon did ask for confirmation, and Kmeyers asked for a reasonable position if both are happy great. Just post it or pm it to me.

[kmeyers]

Atom’s opinion is that his powers work like the Terminator in that only his biological self can transport through time. His logic is flawed in the sense that for the Terminator to time travel he could only bring himself which mean no clothes no weapons nothing that wasn’t attached to the person that was doing the traveling. For Timeshadow he can travel with his clothes, boots, metal etc. this is a fact that can not be repudiated.

My opinion is that his powers are based more on Kitty Prydes power in which all he has contact with can travel with him. Kitty can make anything intangible she has contact with, clothes, people etc otherwise we would have naked Kitty’s running around.
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so there are 2 sides, with not enough evidence to decide exactly how his power works. This is the exact same problem that came up with Collective man...one side said his super power only worked in China. The other side said it worked anywhere.

but it wasn't clear in the comic. Here, Timeshadow may be able to bring people with him, but he never has done so in the comic...which leads me to wonder why he wouldn't ever do that in the comic, if he could.

my opinion is that Havok can make an explosion bigger than a nuclear bomb on everyone's team.

[Siddon]

You changed your questions, thats really messed up, I shouldn't take it personally because once again you are someone who I will be competing against but you changed the question.

Your original question is "is there any reasonable proof that Tineshadow has, or can bring other people with him?

Now you make a statement predicated on this logical gem

so there are 2 sides, with not enough evidence to decide exactly how his power works.

So we've gone from Any reasonable proof to not enough evidence to decide exactlly how his powers work. Thats really F@#$% up

I could throw up my hands and say I am sick of it but I will not be bullied out of this game! You want to change the questions fine I answered both of them already.

Explain to me why secenerio 1 works and senerio 2 doesn't. And address the physics of his ability to transfer clothing and metals. Do that, and I'll continue this conversation with you. But if you expect me to answer your questions start answering mine!

[BWilly]

[QUOTE=Siddon]I could throw up my hands and say I am sick of it but I will not be bullied out of this game!QUOTE]

Siddon, you aren't being bullied. People are merely trying to debate, just as we have every year to decide what is fair.

The problem is that in every argument, you refuse to concede being wrong about anything. I'm not saying you are not right about certain things, but you also have to admit that you cannot be right about everything. It seems to me that you are not even considering the opinions of other posters here.

And this is not a personal attack, so don't say that it is. I'm just trying to kill this pointless chaos.

[Tre Styles]

Nice story, but I guess the world is doomed. You're facing me in the first round.

. We'll see about that playboy.He who laughs, lasts.(P.S.:And long as a mostly good mutant team wins, it doesn't matter if my team wins.....which they will....but it really doesn't matter. all will be revealed in due time.):) :cool:

[Flight]

Who cares anymore about assimilation. No ones going to vote for Siddon if he keeps speaking to people like sh!t. He's brought it on himself if he loses

[Flight]

An envelope lay on Emma Frost's desk...
She looked at the sticker on the back and smiled sweetly

"At last..." she said

Later ont hat day she stood outside a building she knew very well. The door opened for her and she walked in

"At last." a voice said "The White Queen returns to her rightful throne"
Sebastian Shaw grinned as he knew his old friend would return one day
"Let me introduce you to the new Outer Circle! I of course, am the Black King and Mystique is my Black Queen. We stabbed Selene in the head with a blender. She annoyed all of us it seemed. Sunspot is your new White King and Callisto and Vargas make up the new Black and White Bishops. Lady Mastermind is my apprentice"
"Oh darling!" Emma Frost giggled "You should have brought a cheese cake!!"
"ahahHhahHahAHahAHAHHa!!!!!" The 7 fiends laughed manically for 3 hours and then decided to create a tournament for all mutants

[The Fury]

Very nice Flight.



I don't know if this has been asked before but 15th has made his last choice and Who is Protege?

[Sheldon]

Re: Timeshadow - His clothing may travel with him due to unstable molecules......stan lee's plot device fabric....if he has never traveled with others, then I am of the opinion that he can not. It may be a logical extension of his powers, but then the alliance of evil were never the most intelligent group....I wish I had my old X-Factor issues handy...

[The Dosadi Experiment]

Ok no offense here, but I see Siddon's main problem, and to be honest it is of his own making.

As it appears now he's had a strategy planned out during the draft, a strategy so specific that it was already decided, long before any battle, how it would all work out. The problem here is that the moment you become so specific, you limit yourself to only your interpretation of a game-plan.
Every question raised about the abilities your characters possess will come across as an attack on your person, as if they are trying to force you out of the game. The thing you seem to be forgetting is that you've already mapped out something so specific based on your interpretation, that ever alteration to your vision can destroy that earlier made plan.

You've made the mistake of being to strict, of having decided on a plan long before the actual game had begun. As a result you are now discovering that you've driven yourself into a corner, because you now appear dependant on a set strategy.

An example.

Emplate in my team can switch between this reality and some inbetween reality, that's what's given in the comics, he's also quite invisible when he's in that other place, he can move unseen in our world, and appear when he pleases.

That's just an ability, if I had picked for instance Doppelganger, or some other mutant copy-machine, and I had already decided that the strategy for those two characters would be for Emplate to move out of this reality, with Doppelganger, and move towards the enemy and then have doppelganger copy the most powerful, or most useful ability there, then drop back into this reality and attack the unsuspecting characters there. I have already created a specific strategy based on two characters.

If another player would then tell me that Emplate has never brought with him another character through his ability to shift between dimensions, my entire strategy falls apart for those two characters.

The way I see it, you've gone a level higher than that by having a full team dependant on eachother. If one link is removed, the whole thing collapses.

You've planned yourself into a corner.

[The Fury]

The way I see it, you've gone a level higher than that by having a full team dependant on eachother. If one link is removed, the whole thing collapses.

You've planned yourself into a corner.
I can see that, the thing is we must assume that things are not what we think, in otherwords, fair enough Emplate can port though different dimension but because he has never (I don't know, this is a presumption) taken anyone with him, then assume that he can not do that.

We have to go by what can be deduced by the comics. Things like It is unclear to us that Emma can or can't use her telepathic powers while in Diamond form. becuase of a small mention about the fact during Astonishing X-men, she has though mentioned that she can't use it in diamond form but is also immune to telepathy while in it. This was mentioned in New X-men, and this is the power as I pressume it. If my presumption is wrong then, my plan kind of fails.



Also, who is Protege?

[The Dosadi Experiment]

Here's the backstory for my Team... The Santaroga Dysfunction... part I

In some distant corner of an obscurely distant future a man awakens to conclude that reality is merely a warped interpretation of what it should be. In a bleak moment of understanding he hurls himself into the abyss, only to find death at its deepest point. Reality stretches beyond the physical world, as it peels away every element of the poor soul’s existence, it becomes aware of its own existence. A newly formed mind is born, and in less than an instant it is shredded by the immensity of its own being. As reality begins to unravel itself it pours into a metaphysical state of non-existence, non-reality.

In a last attempt to find inner peace, what remains of reality turns inwards, trying to escape the destruction that it has created when it was born into sentience. Inwards, as a limit to its existence has now been created, a void, a being greater than reality itself, a being rapidly devouring the endless qualities of being.

As it all collapsed in on itself, nine fictional characters managed to escape into the past, myths, legends, vague memories of stories that died long ago. They were never truly aware of their choice, their destiny was as much a result of a fractured decaying reality as it was the result of foul plans forged.
But their exodus into the past was successful.

“The internet truly is a place where the pretentious gather” the blond girl sighed, in the knowledge that her sister agreed wholeheartedly with her on this subject. “The stylistic errors are astonishing, they…”
“…are everywhere in this flawed piece of prose,” her sister picked up with an uncanny ease.

The three young girls rose to their feet in sync with each other, to face the tall window overlooking a garden.

With a mental sigh they shared a feeling of having to fulfil a heavy, bothersome duty.

“Well ladies, you took your time, we’ve been waiting since forever for you to join our little band of blasphemous misfits!” young Vincente grinned arrogantly.

“Unlike you, Vincente,” the first blond girls spoke blandly.
“…we still feel the need… ,” the second blond girl continued in an equally bland tone.
“… to learn something useful,” the third girl finished with some arrogance.

“All right then, we’re off!” an eerily cheerful Australian accent declared to the ragtag group of misfits.

And in the blink of an eye, they had all vanished into thin air.

[Siddon]

I fear the first two parts of this post will fall on deaf ears but I will say them anyways

Fury, Dos and Luckyone
I have no doubt in my mind that you are doing what you believe is right and you have debated your points well and with respect and I thank you for that. You have addressed the issues at hand and not my personality to the best of your abilities and it means truly the world to me. I have good feelings when I read your posts because I actually believe that you want resolutions and that you want them to be fair.
Tre Style and Nightcrawler
Both of you deserve an apology for what has happened. In my desire to answer every complaint and question your posts and stories were buried in a mess of bullsh#t an act which I bear responsibility towards.
Flight
You wanted to strip me of my team, because of my arguments or my personality. Now you say that you will never vote for me despite what ever strategy I make. The worst part of this is that I have a feeling that you are not alone in this f@$%^ up ideology.

Sheldon
If you refuse to make decisions based on facts and instead base them on wild speculation then you have given me no choice but to DROP most of my team. I sent you my strategy and you knew exactly what I was going to do, you even complimented me on it.
I think that the deck is clearly stacked against me. A lot of its my fault in the sense that I allowed a half dozen people to ruin my good time.

A fair warning, some of you have insulted me on a personal level and now I have had my time and patience wasted. I accepted all of the concessions made to my characters BEFORE they were picked, a fact obviously lost on all of you. I said last week that I should name my team “Hey you can’t do that” And now I will assemble a team of rejects to continue the fight.

The nice guy gloves are off
I am dropping Commcast, Ashley Martin, Paradigm, Forge, Timeshadow
I am picking up Warbird, Namor, Abyss, Random(if fully powered and alive if not), Skids

[Atom_basher]

I fear the first two parts of this post will fall on deaf ears but I will say them anyways

Fury, Dos and Luckyone
I have no doubt in my mind that you are doing what you believe is right and you have debated your points well and with respect and I thank you for that. You have addressed the issues at hand and not my personality to the best of your abilities and it means truly the world to me. I have good feelings when I read your posts because I actually believe that you want resolutions and that you want them to be fair.
Tre Style and Nightcrawler
Both of you deserve an apology for what has happened. In my desire to answer every complaint and question your posts and stories were buried in a mess of bullsh#t an act which I bear responsibility towards.
Flight
You wanted to strip me of my team, because of my arguments or my personality. Now you say that you will never vote for me despite what ever strategy I make. The worst part of this is that I have a feeling that you are not alone in this f@$%^ up ideology.

Sheldon
If you refuse to make decisions based on facts and instead base them on wild speculation then you have given me no choice but to DROP most of my team. I sent you my strategy and you knew exactly what I was going to do, you even complimented me on it.
I think that the deck is clearly stacked against me. A lot of its my fault in the sense that I allowed a half dozen people to ruin my good time.

A fair warning, some of you have insulted me on a personal level and now I have had my time and patience wasted. I accepted all of the concessions made to my characters BEFORE they were picked, a fact obviously lost on all of you. I said last week that I should name my team “Hey you can’t do that” And now I will assemble a team of rejects to continue the fight.

The nice guy gloves are off
I am dropping Commcast, Ashley Martin, Paradigm, Forge, Timeshadow
I am picking up Warbird, Namor, Abyss, Random(if fully powered and alive if not), Skids


Warbird isnt on the list, nor is she a muatnt, if she was available trust me she would have already been chosen. but im not trying to give u sh1t, if it seemed like I was trying to pick on you or insulted you on a personal level back there siddon, i wasnt, and I apologize Nor was I trying to make u have to switch teams.

[Siddon]

She was on originally if she was taken off because she was to powerful fine, if it was a mistake great, whatever. If not her I'll take Syrin(whose not on the list, a mistake I guess) or Omega Red or Sugerman or whatever because honestly it means so freaking little to me right now.

As for the apology

thankyou

[The Lucky One]

I'm pretty sure I didn't put Warbird on the list, simply because she's not a mutant, nor was she ever a member of an X-team. Maybe you saw Warhawk and just misread it? (I do that all the time.)

-D

[The Dosadi Experiment]

She was on originally if she was taken off because she was to powerful fine, if it was a mistake great, whatever. If not her I'll take Syrin(whose not on the list, a mistake I guess) or Omega Red or Sugerman or whatever because honestly it means so freaking little to me right now.

As for the apology

thankyou

Pick Sugarman, he's fun, and he's difficult to kill, the little bugger survives EVERYTHING!

[Squila Lord]

Siddon, I too, owe you an apology, I doubt you'll accept it at this point- and that is my own shortcoming, but I apologize none the less.

[Tre Styles]

Okay...this has gotten wayyyyy too personal. CHILL OUT ALREADY. This is supposed to be all infun...see the title of the thread. Thanks for the apology, Sid, because this was supposed to be fun. I think all parties involved need to drop this issue, and let's just all move on. Stay cool, all yalls...thatand I'm gonna kick all yer butts 2. :cool:

[Sheldon]

Sheldon
If you refuse to make decisions based on facts and instead base them on wild speculation then you have given me no choice but to DROP most of my team. I sent you my strategy and you knew exactly what I was going to do, you even complimented me on it.


Hey man, I did complement you on your strategy because I thought it was pretty creative. I still think it is. Whether or not it is viable is another question.

I'm trying to figure out why you say I make my decisions on wild speculation instead of facts. If it was in reference to Timeshadow, I think saying he can take people with him, when he never has in any of this appearances is more speculation than fact.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

hmmm this made me wonder... can Emplate take others with him in that shifting dimensional thingemebob he does?

[Atom_basher]

I agree with Tre, this did get out of hand. idont think somthig like this should ever make someone feel persoally attacked (although I personally didnt see many personal attacks just debating, but i digress) But i hope this match DOES end up being fair, and not end up being a match of personal faves.

[Tre Styles]

hmmm this made me wonder... can Emplate take others with him in that shifting dimensional thingemebob he does?

He has kept mutants prisoners, but I don't know if he's kept them in that dimension he goes too....I only remember that he used to visit DOA and the prisoners after he finished...."supping" on them.....it may be possible. Nightcrawler can do it. Locus can do it. So maybe Emplate can?!?

[Atom_basher]

Alot of teleporters can bring people along, but alot cant, i think it has to be specified, for example i dotn think mankin can bring others along with his teleportation.

[Siddon]

Hey man, I did complement you on your strategy because I thought it was pretty creative. I still think it is. Whether or not it is viable is another question.

I'm trying to figure out why you say I make my decisions on wild speculation instead of facts. If it was in reference to Timeshadow, I think saying he can take people with him, when he never has in any of this appearances is more speculation than fact.

You based your opinion on something pulled out of thin air (stan lee's science).

I've sent you many qoutes that you never addressed.

Another poster confirmed CABLE 16 and you as well as everyone else IGNORED IT

Thanks for the apologies from those who gave them

I'm taking Strong Guy then

[Atom_basher]

Siddon, calm down, i hate to say it, but alot of the ill will towards u was brought on by yourself, you are so stand offish, and wont admit when you are wrong, why dont you chill out, realize this is nothing more than a friendly game and not guerilla warfare. and just enjoy.

[Siddon]

Siddon, calm down, i hate to say it, but alot of the ill will towards u was brought on by yourself, you are so stand offish, and wont admit when you are wrong, why dont you chill out, realize this is nothing more than a friendly game and not guerilla warfare. and just enjoy.

CALM DOWN I JUST DROPPED 5 MEMBERS OF MY F$%KING TEAM!!!!!

THAT MEANS I WASTED THE TIME I SPENT OVER THE LAST WEEK PUTTING TOGETHER THIS TEAM AND DEVELOPING A STRATEGY AND I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING WITH PEOPLE THAT DON"T HAVE ISSUES OR WON"T POST SCANS.

YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED LEAVE ME ALONE AND STOP BAITING ME INTO HAVING FIGHTS WITH YOU!

F!@#%^&*

[BWilly]

I wasn't sure which of the 3 Mutant League threads to post this, but since this one seems to be jumping the most right now, I'll post it here.

Venus and I might be interested in trading Tempo. A little about her: Tempo has the ability to "twist time" by generating a temporal field around herself and whomever or whatever else she chooses. Usually, she used her power to speed up her teammates, so that they could dodge bullets.

If anyone is interested, drop me a PM, not Venus, as he doesn't have a lot of access to a computer right now.

[Atom_basher]

CALM DOWN I JUST DROPPED 5 MEMBERS OF MY F$%KING TEAM!!!!!

THAT MEANS I WASTED THE TIME I SPENT OVER THE LAST WEEK PUTTING TOGETHER THIS TEAM AND DEVELOPING A STRATEGY AND I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING WITH PEOPLE THAT DON"T HAVE ISSUES OR WON"T POST SCANS.

YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED LEAVE ME ALONE AND STOP BAITING ME INTO HAVING FIGHTS WITH YOU!

F!@#%^&*

and i apologized that you had to do that, i am legitameley sorry that that happened, and can sympathize with you because i wouldnt want to do the same thing, but it WOULDNT have been as much of a waste of time if you heard us out from the begining, and made your descision back then, instead of making your decision kicking and screaming. im NOT trying to pick a fight siddion. if you look at when we first started talking, i politely asked how your strategy would work, but u became increasingly snarkier with not oinly me, but alot of other people. you are the one who escalated this into a war of words, not anyoe else. you

[Sheldon]

You based your opinion on something pulled out of thin air (stan lee's science).

I've sent you many qoutes that you never addressed.

Another poster confirmed CABLE 16 and you as well as everyone else IGNORED IT

Thanks for the apologies from those who gave them

I'm taking Strong Guy then

You misunderstood what I said when I mentioned unstable molecules. You stated that if Timeshadow's clothes went with him then he could take people. The reason why most comic book character's clothing stays with them when they do crazy stuff ie light on fire, go invisible, etc. is due to unstable molecules Its pretty much the standard.

I was talking about sagroths quote when I asked about psylocke.

That said, Siddon I think you need to take a break from this. We can take this to PM.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

Unstable molecules are the reason Mystique wears clothes when she transforms aren't they?

[Atom_basher]

Unstable molecules are the reason Mystique wears clothes when she transforms aren't they?


Yep, exactly, and the same reason Reed Richards has a stretchy suit

[Siddon]

Unstable molecules are the reason Mystique wears clothes when she transforms aren't they?

No the reason she changes clothes is because she can recreate them they covered it in the series. She actually used the same powers to make a glass vile. You probablly don't have the issue I am talking about so you will believe that you are right and probablly continue to argue this. But you are FLAT OUT WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

But whatever this is what Sheldon sent to me as a pm

Very cool strategy, be careful as creation of machines takes time....I don't think you could create The Fury, but Nannites and Sentinals are possible. Also the timespan it takes to assimilate will probably be challenged....but kudos to your creativity.

I have no doubt that you felt that my strategy was based on viability but you told me that my problem was based on time, a very different thing. I made my following draft picks based on an issue of time not based on viability. I made my following decisions based on time directly because of the language you used.

Atom to my knowledge I never refered to your personailty when having a debate. You can not say the same thing.

But you know what IT DOESN"T MATTER I DROPPED MY TEAM NOW DROP THE FU!@#%$ SUBJECT!!!!!!!!

[The Fury]

So, Who's Protege?

[Sheldon]

Wait protege isn't on the list....man I suck at this job....I'll PM Sven

[Tre Styles]

ex·cel P Pronunciation Key ( k-s l )v. ex·celled, ex·cel·ling, ex·cels v. tr. To do or be better than; surpass.v. intr. To show superiority; surpass others. [Middle English excellen, from Latin excellere. See kel-2 in Indo-European Roots.] Synonyms: excel, surpass, exceed, transcend, outdo, outstripThese verbs mean to be or go beyond a limit or standard. To excel is to be preeminent (excels at figure skating) or to be at a level higher than another or others (excelled her father as a lawyer). To surpass another is to be superior in performance, quality, or degree: an athlete surpassed by none. Exceed can refer to being superior (an invention that exceeds all others in ingenuity), to being greater than another (a salary exceeding 70 thousand dollars a year), and to going beyond a proper limit (exceed one's authority). Transcend often implies the attainment of a level so high that comparison is hardly possible: Great art transcends mere rules of composition. To outdo is to excel in doing or performing: won't be outdone in generosity. Outstrip strongly suggests leaving another behind, as in a contest: a case of the student outstripping the teacher.


Just thought I'd let you know...... ;) :cool:

[Tre Styles]

ex·cel P Pronunciation Key ( k-s l )v. ex·celled, ex·cel·ling, ex·cels v. tr. To do or be better than; surpass.v. intr. To show superiority; surpass others. [Middle English excellen, from Latin excellere. See kel-2 in Indo-European Roots.] Synonyms: excel, surpass, exceed, transcend, outdo, outstrip..
These verbs mean to be or go beyond a limit or standard. To excel is to be preeminent (excels at figure skating) or to be at a level higher than another or others (excelled her father as a lawyer). To surpass another is to be superior in performance, quality, or degree: an athlete surpassed by none. Exceed can refer to being superior (an invention that exceeds all others in ingenuity), to being greater than another (a salary exceeding 70 thousand dollars a year), and to going beyond a proper limit (exceed one's authority). Transcend often implies the attainment of a level so high that comparison is hardly possible: Great art transcends mere rules of composition. To outdo is to excel in doing or performing: won't be outdone in generosity. Outstrip strongly suggests leaving another behind, as in a contest: a case of the student outstripping the teacher.


Just thought I'd let you know..Nightcrawler, especially.... ;) :cool:

[Nightcrawler]

ex·cel P Pronunciation Key ( k-s l )v. ex·celled, ex·cel·ling, ex·cels v. tr. To do or be better than; surpass.v. intr. To show superiority; surpass others. [Middle English excellen, from Latin excellere. See kel-2 in Indo-European Roots.] Synonyms: excel, surpass, exceed, transcend, outdo, outstripThese verbs mean to be or go beyond a limit or standard. To excel is to be preeminent (excels at figure skating) or to be at a level higher than another or others (excelled her father as a lawyer). To surpass another is to be superior in performance, quality, or degree: an athlete surpassed by none. Exceed can refer to being superior (an invention that exceeds all others in ingenuity), to being greater than another (a salary exceeding 70 thousand dollars a year), and to going beyond a proper limit (exceed one's authority). Transcend often implies the attainment of a level so high that comparison is hardly possible: Great art transcends mere rules of composition. To outdo is to excel in doing or performing: won't be outdone in generosity. Outstrip strongly suggests leaving another behind, as in a contest: a case of the student outstripping the teacher.


Just thought I'd let you know..Nightcrawler, especially.... ;) :cool:


Ya, so? I could be called the "Winners" but it doesn't mean I'll win.

j/k

Seriously, though, I'm gonna win.

[Tre Styles]

Ya, so? I could be called the "Winners" but it doesn't mean I'll win.

j/k

Seriously, though, I'm gonna win.

:D It's so cute that you believe that. ;)

[Nightcrawler]

:D It's so cute that you believe that. ;)

We'll see who believes what, come Monday. ;)

[Tre Styles]

We'll see who believes what, come Monday. ;)

So we SHALL my friend, so we SHALL....

[The Lucky One]

In a time when the Avengers have disassembled... in a time when the New Warriors are no more... a young mutant named JUSTICE looks at the world around him and sees a need for order. Metahuman crime is on the rise, and with the X-Men embroiled in mutant affairs, a global task force is needed to combat any and all threats to humanity. With this in mind, he sets out on a quest to recruit the stragglers... the outsiders... the unsung heroes who operate outside of the public eye, and who will not be missed should anything go awry. They are:

MADROX, the Multiple Man. Jamie Madrox possesses the mutant ability to create duplicates of himself, with whom he retains a mental link and some measure of control, upon any contact with kinetic energy. A former member of government team X-Factor, he has spent the last couple of years sending duplicates out into the world to increase his skills and life experiences.

The official protector of Israel, SABRA is strong enough to lift 50 tons, or slightly more than Rogue at her peak. Her skin, muscles, and bones are incredibly dense, allowing her to withstand blows from even the Hulk, and her immune system and regenerative abilities function at a much higher level than baseline humans. In addition, her speed and reflexes are approximately three times those of peak human levels, and her cape enables her to fly at speeds of over 300 mph. Twin wrist launchers fire high-energy quills of plasma, capable of paralyzing the nervous system of her target for over an hour, and she has demonstrated the ability to bestow a portion of her powers on others if she so chooses. A member of Xavier's Underground and longtime ally of the X-Men, Sabra's most notable feats include smacking down Captain Britain and fighting the Hulk to a standstill... twice.

MARY ZERO constantly generates a psychic shroud, nullifying her existence to the physical senses (sight, smell, touch, hearing, etc.) of others, as well as giving selective amnesia to those few people who do consciously register her presence. As a result, a person could literally trip right over her and still not realize she was there. To date, Agent X has been the only individual able to consciously pick up on Mary's presence, possibly due to his scrambled brainwaves.

A prince of the alien Technarch race, WARLOCK is an incredibly versatile metamorph with control over every molecule of his being. Capable of altering his shape, size, appearance, and color in any way imaginable, he can also form a near-infinite variety of weapons and sensors out of his bodily substance. As a techno-organic being, he has the capacity to absorb many different types of energy to increase his personal reserve, as well as to infect others with the transmode virus- this turns them into a techno-organic creature like himself, which he can then drain of energy, rendering them inert. As a result of his longstanding association with the deceased mutant Doug Ramsey, he also possesses some of Cypher’s memories and his language intuition ability.

QUICKSILVER is the son of Magneto, with all of his father’s impatience and inability to suffer fools gladly. He can travel on foot at speeds exceeding the speed of sound for hundreds of miles before tiring; he can "fly" for brief periods by flapping his arms; he can also use his speed to create cyclones, and run up walls and across water. Since the High Evolutionary's Isotope E has upgraded his powers, he no longer knows his own limits
(Taken from the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2004: Avengers)

Possibly the most enigmatic member of a team of untouchables, PENANCE is not only mute, but impossible to get a read on. The body once housed the mind of Monet St. Croix, the mutant known as M, and later her twin sisters; but when they were freed, an unknown consciousness remained. Her entire body has atrophied to the point where her skin is razor sharp and as hard as diamond, and she can blend in with shadows to become effectively invisible.

Team leader JUSTICE is an extremely powerful telekinetic, with years of experience both leading the New Warriors and observing Captain America’s leadership firsthand with the Avengers. Using the power of his mind, he is capable of lifting incredibly heavy loads, creating protective shields or bolts of force, and flight. In addition, he has refined his fine motor control to be able to carry out complex, delicate tasks with his telekinesis as well.

Gathering his team around him, Justice has just begun on his self-appointed quest when the squad is forcibly abducted to take part in a bizarre, cosmic tournament. Determining that non-compliance is impossible, he instead resolves to guage his fledgling team's combat effectiveness the best way he knows how: in the heat of battle. And so, cry havoc and let slip The Eclectics!

-D

[Mr. Jip]

uh.. who's Mary Zero..?.. :confused:
Did you create this character, Lucky? :rolleyes:

[The Lucky One]

Alas, you have never read Agent X, you sad, sad little boy. You have my pity.

-D

[Atom_basher]

who knew Sabra was such a powerhouse. but easily dealt with.

[kmeyers]

You changed your questions, thats really messed up, I shouldn't take it personally because once again you are someone who I will be competing against but you changed the question.
I'm not allowed more than one question?

...and really, it's not a different question, at all...

Your original question is "is there any reasonable proof that Tineshadow has, or can bring other people with him?
which you haven't really answered or proved. You have some nice theories, though.

Now you make a statement predicated on this logical gem

so there are 2 sides, with not enough evidence to decide exactly how his power works.

So we've gone from Any reasonable proof to not enough evidence to decide exactlly how his powers work. Thats really F@#$% up

how is it fucked up, please, tell me.
when did reasonable proof stop meaning almost the same thing as, not enough(reasonable) evidence?
proof/evidence...what's the difference?
I could throw up my hands and say I am sick of it but I will not be bullied out of this game! You want to change the questions fine I answered both of them already.
You need to chill the fuck out, dude. no one is attacking you. you are not being bullied. this is supposed to be a FUN contest. If you can't take a little criticism without flying into a rage, you're going to have a problem

...and you really haven't answered the questions. You've posted theories as to what YOU beleive should be, but that's it.

it's this easy...what issue, title, and panel did Timeshadow bring people with him when he timeshifted?

and since it's more than one person disagreeing with you, shouldn't that tell you something?
maybe your plan isn't as conceivable as you thought it was.

Explain to me why secenerio 1 works and senerio 2 doesn't. And address the physics of his ability to transfer clothing and metals. Do that, and I'll continue this conversation with you. But if you expect me to answer your questions start answering mine!
I'd love to, but since it hasn't been shown in the comics, all there can be, is speculation.

I could theorise all day about powers my team memebers MIGHT have, but that doesn't mean they do.

[The Dosadi Experiment]

No the reason she changes clothes is because she can recreate them they covered it in the series. She actually used the same powers to make a glass vile. You probablly don't have the issue I am talking about so you will believe that you are right and probablly continue to argue this. But you are FLAT OUT WRONG!!!!!!!!!!



Up untill there.

That's the moment it goes all horribly wrong. Not on my side, but on your side of the discussion.

I asked a very simple question. You on the other hand made from one simple question some low attack on your person and your role in this game. You're seriously overreacting here, there was no attack, there was JUST a simple question.
To make things worse, you somehow felt that in your moment of self-defense you had to go out of your way to turn it all around and attack me, and you attack me on a personal level.

Seriously, I do not have to take that tone from anyone at this point, and most certainly not from you. I do not need for you to decide what I think or what I don't think.

Don't ever claim that your interpretation is the absolute truth.

"You probablly don't have the issue I am talking about so you will believe that you are right and probablly continue to argue this."

First of all I asked one sheepishly simple question on Mystique's god-damned outfit in relation to unstable molecules, and you just had to turn it around and make some pitiful personal attack on me.

"But you are FLAT OUT WRONG!!!!!!!!!!"

I'm flat out wrong? Big whoop if I am, that's why people ask questions, because they want an answer. Not everybody here wants answers that fit their little cozy street. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, I won't lose any sleep over it.

If you hadn't stuck your head so far up your ass and hadn't crawled into your sickening self-defense mode, you'd see that with an attitude like that, you're alienating the sympathy you had.

I've had it with this discussion.
I've had it with this thread.

[The Fury]

Wait protege isn't on the list....man I suck at this job....I'll PM Sven
You know, I looked at the list and saw he wasn't on it, I thought Oh, it was a mutant I'd missed. So I looked at uncannyxmen.net, nothing there. I looked at a few extra places including marvunapp's Master List. One entry on there only and he isn't even a mutant.

No offense to your pick 15th, Ireally didn't know who he was.

[Sheldon]

15th Sven meant to say Prodigy.

In case it wasn't clear....they trade deadline was yesterday.
So the rosters on the site are the final ones....

[Nightcrawler]

When will the first match begin?

[The Fury]

When will the first match begin?
Monday morning.

[Nightcrawler]

Will we have a different thread for every match?

[The Fury]

Will we have a different thread for every match?
Yes, each match is decided by public votes for 24 hours (at this stage) and therefore each will need a new poll and a new thread when they start.

[Siddon]

Well I read it and let me say this

Dos

I WASN"T TALKING TO YOU I WAS TALKING TO THE PERSON WHO ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I PUT UP WITH SH@# FOR A WEEK HUNDREDS OF POSTS SOME BASED ON FACT MOST BASED ON MY F@$#%ING PERSONAILTY. SO WHAT DID I DO I DROPPED MY F#$^% TEAM IN THE HOPES THAT YOU MOTHER@#$%^% WOULD LET THIS BE FUN AGAIN BUT YOU CAN'T LET ANY SH@$ REST.

KMEYERS

I DROPPED THE F@#$%ING PLAYER BECAUSE I AM DISCUSTED. I AM SICK AS F#$^% OF DEBATING 5/7ths of my MOTHER FU@#@$ING TEAM WHEN ALL I DID WAS POST MY TEAMS F@#%$%ING HISTORY.

BY THE WAY THERE IS NO F@#%ING CURSING RULE ON THIS BOARD IF I BROKE THIS RULE MY A@# WOULD BE BANNED BUT BECAUSE ITS YOU GUYS I GUESS ITS F@#%$ING OKAY.

F^^#$*
S(*#)%
C*()$%S@#$%$DONKEY#*%^)HILLARYDUFF@#%*MOTHER@#$*%



Now I have to go take my f#$^ pills, f$%^ message board f@#$% games sick of this f$%^ sh#$

[Fabian]

Wow...just wow. Replacement time?

[Nightcrawler]

Can we just stop? Can someone please get mature and resist the urge to respond?

[kmeyers]

KMEYERS

I DROPPED THE F@#$%ING PLAYER BECAUSE I AM DISCUSTED. I AM SICK AS F#$^% OF DEBATING 5/7ths of my MOTHER FU@#@$ING TEAM WHEN ALL I DID WAS POST MY TEAMS F@#%$%ING HISTORY.

BY THE WAY THERE IS NO F@#%ING CURSING RULE ON THIS BOARD IF I BROKE THIS RULE MY A@# WOULD BE BANNED BUT BECAUSE ITS YOU GUYS I GUESS ITS F@#%$ING OKAY.

F^^#$*
S(*#)%
C*()$%S@#$%$DONKEY#*%^)HILLARYDUFF@#%*MOTHER@#$*%



Now I have to go take my f#$^ pills, f$%^ message board f@#$% games sick of this f$%^ sh#$

right, there is a no cursing rule, but at least I don't curse every other word...and no, the #$%s isn't fooling anyone. I don't hide behind symbols. I just come right out, and say what I mean...but I don't ridiculously overuse the words...they mean more that way.

...and I don't have anything against you personally, and never attacked your personality, not one time. I was even with you, on your side, in the Collective man argument.

but you flew off the handle at the most minor criticism/questioning of your team...and now every question gets answered by you with overusing OBVIOUSLY bad language, and yelling(all caps).

Also, no one said you had to drop your team, you decided to do that.

just calm down. please.

[Siddon]

Resisting urge to respond walk a away take a breath and your pills lots of pills pills are good keep the voices at bay ignore the voices that tell you to do things be a good sidonian listen to the nice martin lawrence whoosa whoosa whoosa

[Fabian]

Wow, I think Siddon cracked. Really, how is he going to act when the voting doesn't go his way?

[The Lucky One]

Plus there, um, IS a cursing rule on this board. (Why does everyone always forget that one?) PG-13 or lower, meaning the F-bomb is a big no-no.

-D

[venuscameback]

Carter who should be able to put up a double layerd shield long enough ...

Carter can erect tp shields? i don't recall seeing him do anything like that in the books ...

ian

ps sorry you had to change most yr team mate, that does really suck for you