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manymade1
12-04-2011, 01:29 PM
Like Teen Titans was based on Marv Wolfmans series, was the Legion of Super-heroes show based on any specific runs on the team?

I was a big fan of the series and would like to start on their comics. From what I saw, everything about the Legion was captured perfectly in the show.

doordoor123
12-04-2011, 01:38 PM
Like Teen Titans was based on Marv Wolfmans series, was the Legion of Super-heroes show based on any specific runs on the team?

I was a big fan of the series and would like to start on their comics. From what I saw, everything about the Legion was captured perfectly in the show.

You can like the show all you want but you still won't understand the comic. I also really enjoyed the show but the characters are different for the most part and the comics are different. Most of the characters that you got accustomed to on the show aren't the main focus' of the book. Instead, the characters with the tiny cameos are the big characters in the comics. Which kind of sucks because we never got to know them. I wish it were based on something because if it were, I would read it. But at the moment I still don't understand the comics. And I have tried on multiple occasions. Its honestly not worth the money.

Blue_Beetle
12-04-2011, 01:40 PM
Get the new series and the Giffen/Levits issues from the 80s. Like 284 to 313 or something like that. Should be easy to follow after that.

glennsim
12-04-2011, 02:21 PM
I think it's fair to say that the cartoon took a lot of liberties, so liking one might or might not mean liking the other. But I think if you go back to issue #1 of the last pre-reboot Legion series, you can get caught up.

Robotman4
12-04-2011, 04:58 PM
i loved the fact that Timberwolf (or at least a version of Timberwolf) was a main character. but i wish Cos wouldn't had more screen time as leader.

Matthew E
12-04-2011, 05:02 PM
There actually is an answer to the question, and it's this:

In the last issue of the comic book based on the cartoon, #20 of Legion of Super-Heroes in the 31st Century, we found that the whole cartoon and the LSH31C comic book were part of a simulation Brainiac 5 was running to see if it'd be a good idea for Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, and Cosmic Boy to go back in time and meet young Clark Kent.

But don't worry about that; if you want to get into the regular-continuity Legion comics, just do so. You won't have any trouble if you jump in anywhere, look for comics you like, and get more of the ones you do like and less of the ones you don't. Regardless of what doordoor123 says.

manymade1
12-04-2011, 05:17 PM
There actually is an answer to the question, and it's this:

In the last issue of the comic book based on the cartoon, #20 of Legion of Super-Heroes in the 31st Century, we found that the whole cartoon and the LSH31C comic book were part of a simulation Brainiac 5 was running to see if it'd be a good idea for Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, and Cosmic Boy to go back in time and meet young Clark Kent.

But don't worry about that; if you want to get into the regular-continuity Legion comics, just do so. You won't have any trouble if you jump in anywhere, look for comics you like, and get more of the ones you do like and less of the ones you don't. Regardless of what doordoor123 says.

Ah ok, do you know who was the writer of the most recent(Non New 52) series writer?

Robotman4
12-04-2011, 05:21 PM
Levitz wrote that one as well. i wasn't a big fan of that series. it was slow and he ruined Earth Man who had the potential to be a great recurring villain.

have you read Geoff Johns Action Comics arc "Superman and the Legion of Superheroes"? thats one of my favorites.

doordoor123
12-04-2011, 05:44 PM
There actually is an answer to the question, and it's this:

In the last issue of the comic book based on the cartoon, #20 of Legion of Super-Heroes in the 31st Century, we found that the whole cartoon and the LSH31C comic book were part of a simulation Brainiac 5 was running to see if it'd be a good idea for Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, and Cosmic Boy to go back in time and meet young Clark Kent.

But don't worry about that; if you want to get into the regular-continuity Legion comics, just do so. You won't have any trouble if you jump in anywhere, look for comics you like, and get more of the ones you do like and less of the ones you don't. Regardless of what doordoor123 says.

Yeah. Try. I dare you. Just make sure to blame this guy when you wasted your money on it. I mean unless you have money to throw away. I don't have to worry about you trying it because odds are it won't click. Please come back here and tell us if you like it.

arkon
12-04-2011, 05:46 PM
Yeah. I agree with Matthew E. You can read some of the experiences of some of us newer Legion fans (myself included) in the "Long Live the Legion!" all-encompassing thread. Suffice it to say, it's not that difficult to get into them IMO. Some of the confusion seems to lie with reconciling the various versions of the Legion that have appeared due to reboots and whatnot.

I think as long as you stick to a particular run and read it in order you'll be fine. I haven't had any problems starting with volume 3 issue #1 of the Legion written way back in the 80s by Paul Levitz. The only books I had read prior to that were Legion of Three Worlds and couple of issues of the new 52 Legion books. As you've watched the show I'm guessing it'll give a reasonable grounding of the basic Legion concepts, cast, villains etc.. Unless the show is really radically different (I haven't see it yet).

Dave Hackett
12-05-2011, 05:25 AM
The show was very much a hybrid of all versions that went before it. They were able to cherry-pick some of the better concepts from other versions without getting bogged down by their continuity. I thought it worked great, and was representative of the spirit of the Legion at its best, though others found the mish-mash a little grating.

You'd be hard-pressed to find an exact run it was "based on", but you'd definitely find some of the show in (almost) any run you looked at.

the4thpip
12-05-2011, 05:40 AM
You can like the show all you want but you still won't understand the comic. I also really enjoyed the show but the characters are different for the most part and the comics are different. Most of the characters that you got accustomed to on the show aren't the main focus' of the book. Instead, the characters with the tiny cameos are the big characters in the comics. Which kind of sucks because we never got to know them. I wish it were based on something because if it were, I would read it. But at the moment I still don't understand the comics. And I have tried on multiple occasions. Its honestly not worth the money.

But you're usually the guy who gets everything? :confused:

There was a retelling of the origin of the Legion recently in Adventure Comics, and there is a series called "Secret Origins" on the stands right now. Also, you can look up every single character on Wikipedia.

Legion, as currently written by Paul Levitz, in densely written in a more 1980s style and might take a little longer to read than your everage "Nu52" book. But it's not half as impenetrable as you are making it out to be.

When I started reading the Legion in the 70s, they already had 20 years of continuity behind them and one of the fun aspects was trying to figure out who was who and what they could do, and learning all their home planets by heart etc.

the4thpip
12-05-2011, 05:45 AM
As for the cartoon: I thought the 2nd season would have worked better if they'd gone for a far-future Supergirl in the Imperiex storyline instead of confusing viewers with two Supermen.

doordoor123
12-05-2011, 06:34 AM
But you're usually the guy who gets everything? :confused:

There was a retelling of the origin of the Legion recently in Adventure Comics, and there is a series called "Secret Origins" on the stands right now. Also, you can look up every single character on Wikipedia.

Legion, as currently written by Paul Levitz, in densely written in a more 1980s style and might take a little longer to read than your everage "Nu52" book. But it's not half as impenetrable as you are making it out to be.

When I started reading the Legion in the 70s, they already had 20 years of continuity behind them and one of the fun aspects was trying to figure out who was who and what they could do, and learning all their home planets by heart etc.

I understand it but I don't at the same time. Legion is so hard to grasp. Even if I thought the comic was okay at times I still had no idea what was going on. Yeah, secret origins is a good place to start but once you're done with that then what? You can't jump into the books because there are so many other different characters that you don't know. And I'm really confused. Where are all of the Legion members that I know on Legion nowadays? Wheres Bouncing Boy? etc.
I have a big beef against Legion of Super Heroes. I've spent so much money on the books and never felt like I knew what was going on.

Animation
12-05-2011, 07:37 AM
I loved the cartoon, and superman & superman X!

Stopu
12-05-2011, 10:04 AM
I understand it but I don't at the same time. Legion is so hard to grasp. Even if I thought the comic was okay at times I still had no idea what was going on. Yeah, secret origins is a good place to start but once you're done with that then what? You can't jump into the books because there are so many other different characters that you don't know. And I'm really confused. Where are all of the Legion members that I know on Legion nowadays? Wheres Bouncing Boy? etc.
I have a big beef against Legion of Super Heroes. I've spent so much money on the books and never felt like I knew what was going on.

But, but....:frown: you seriously feel like that in the DCnu? Its weird, really I don't feel the weight of the past in Legion Lost.

the4thpip
12-05-2011, 01:05 PM
Haters will be hatin'.

Matthew E
12-05-2011, 08:13 PM
Honestly, I think a lot of the time people read Legion comics and assume that there's a whole lot going on that's going right over their heads when really everything they need to know is right there on the page and there's nothing that they're missing.

the4thpip
12-05-2011, 11:58 PM
Honestly, I think a lot of the time people read Legion comics and assume that there's a whole lot going on that's going right over their heads when really everything they need to know is right there on the page and there's nothing that they're missing.

Exactly. You don't need to know who the team mates were that the heroes are grieving. The fact that there is a funeral scene tells you all you need to know: This is a book where heroes die (and sometimes don't come back!), Shadow Lass was in love with one of the ones who died, and the recent deaths (and disappearances of the members in Legion Lost) have led to the acceptance of new recruits into the team.