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G.I.JOSE
11-10-2011, 11:02 AM
Yes or no?

for personal revenge, or global justice?

you`ll go mad with power, or stay as the same person?

Most likely, you`ve seen this question before on the web, but use this as an opportunity to analyze yourself.

Michael P
11-10-2011, 11:03 AM
use this as an aportunity to analize yourself.

I'll pass, if it's all the same to you.

Steward Ace
11-10-2011, 11:05 AM
I have no idea what this question is about.

Puma
11-10-2011, 11:07 AM
I have no idea what this question is about.
same here.

Tadhg
11-10-2011, 11:07 AM
I'll pass, if it's all the same to you.

It'll help keep you regular.

Jeff Brady
11-10-2011, 11:08 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note

Steward Ace
11-10-2011, 11:13 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note
Aha, thank you. If I assume "on" is a mis-spelling of "in", "aportunity" means "opportunity", and "analise" means "analyze," I can now understand that I should not have opened this thread.

Black Atom
11-10-2011, 11:14 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note

Guess I'm officially an old man.

Steward Ace
11-10-2011, 11:17 AM
Guess I'm officially an old man.
There's a lot of that going around.

Captain Clarkie
11-10-2011, 11:20 AM
I'll pass, if it's all the same to you.

Prude.


.........

Kid Omega
11-10-2011, 11:22 AM
It's only one of the most popular comics of the past decade, with multiple movies and anime spun off and based on it.

There's also a thing called "google" for folks who want to wave the "I have no idea what this is" flag, as if it's a weird point of pride. (It's not)

Steward Ace
11-10-2011, 11:24 AM
It's only one of the most popular comics of the past decade, with multiple movies and anime spun off and based on it.

There's also a thing called "google" for folks who want to wave the "I have no idea what this is" flag, as if it's a weird point of pride. (It's not)
Yep, my bad. I didn't realize it was the title of something. I assumed there was something I was missing, and I was correct. On the other hand, it's only part of my broader ignorance.

the4thpip
11-10-2011, 11:40 AM
Some people consider my attempts at singing "death notes."

the4thpip
11-10-2011, 11:41 AM
Death Nöte would be an awesome name for a heavy metal band.

Steward Ace
11-10-2011, 11:44 AM
Death Nöte would be an awesome name for a heavy metal band.
Death Note would definitely be a two-umlaut band.

The Black Guardian
11-10-2011, 12:04 PM
I don't think I'd be able to resist using it for global justice. I can't really think of anyone I know that I want dead.

G.I.JOSE
11-10-2011, 12:07 PM
I don't think I'd be able to resist using it.

Me neither, too many dictators, pedophiles and killers in the world.

Steward Ace
11-10-2011, 12:19 PM
Me neither, too many dictators, pedophiles and killers in the world.
I doubt I could use it. I can't be sure that anyone deserves an early death.

Kid Omega
11-10-2011, 12:41 PM
Yep, my bad. I didn't realize it was the title of something. I assumed there was something I was missing, and I was correct. On the other hand, it's only part of my broader ignorance.

I only get rankled because it's really, really good, and people should read it, or at least have it on their radar. Easily one of the best suspense comics of the past several years, if not THE best...

Steward Ace
11-10-2011, 12:44 PM
I only get rankled because it's really, really good, and people should read it, or at least have it on their radar. Easily one of the best suspense comics of the past several years, if not THE best...
Now added to my read list. Only problem is there's a helluva lot on that list already.

Kid Omega
11-10-2011, 12:46 PM
Now added to my read list. Only problem is there's a helluva lot on that list already.

That is a good problem to have!

worstblogever
11-11-2011, 02:45 AM
An untracable magic murder weapon that works from a distance.



I have to say, while my first instinct would be for vengeance, I'd probably be committed to locking it away to use only in the most extreme of circumstances, the equivalent of killing a tyrant before they can destroy the world.

Because if that book falls into the wrong hands, an innocent could be killed. And for me to use it, I'd have to have the certainty of knowing that the death would absolutely be of an evil person, to their core, who had no redeemable qualities.

But I try to be chill like that.

Iangould
11-11-2011, 06:08 AM
for personal revenge, or global justice?



A little from Column A , a little from Column B.


you`ll go mad with power, or stay as the same person?

"Go" mad?

thespianphryne
11-11-2011, 06:14 AM
Jeez, if I had the power of Death Note, I'd be knocking people off left and right. With absolutely no qualms.

worstblogever
11-11-2011, 06:15 AM
Jeez, if I had the power of Death Note, I'd be knocking people off left and right. With absolutely no qualms.

Remind me never to do anything ban-worthy on the Community Forum with you in charge.

Jeff Brady
11-11-2011, 06:45 AM
Jeez, if I had the power of Death Note, I'd be knocking people off left and right. With absolutely no qualms.

Same here. Facebook would become a weapon.

carabas
11-11-2011, 07:30 AM
I wonder how many popes you'd have to kill in freak accidents for the catholic church to toss in the towel.

Kees_L
11-11-2011, 07:35 AM
I don't think I'd be able to resist using it for global justice. I can't really think of anyone I know that I want dead.

Well, either for global or my own personal justice, if I would have the power over life or death I still couldn't see anything preventing me from using such only as a threat to be correcting people.

So I might use it but not in the sense to be killing anyone per se.

Because if logic dictates I wouldn't want my own life ended, it could be I'd just do anything in my power to never kill another, quite ruthlessly or with maximal intent.
Like basic Buddhist "harmony" or the Christian principle of "not doing onto others what shouldn't be done to self" - such might turn out an inescapable principle, on any point on the spectrum or even when topsy-turvied.

Xiroteus
11-11-2011, 08:05 AM
It could be used for a lot of good, at the same time I doubt I would want anyone on Earth to have such power even myself regardless of how useful it could be.


It's only one of the most popular comics of the past decade, with multiple movies and anime spun off and based on it.

Most popular anywhere in the states? I knew of it and just started reading the comic. I have only really heard about it from a friend.

Jeff Brady
11-11-2011, 08:07 AM
Most popular anywhere in the states? I knew of it and just started reading the comic. I have only really heard about it from a friend.

The anime ran on Adult Swim a couple years ago. It's pretty popular.

Xiroteus
11-11-2011, 08:10 AM
The anime ran on Adult Swim a couple years ago. It's pretty popular.

Ah, I am most likely just out of the loop.

Shawn Hopkins
11-11-2011, 11:08 AM
I'm aware of the series but never really tried the anime or manga. From what I'd heard I figured it was just about a guy that kills a different person each episode, and that's not really my thing. Maybe I misjudged it?

If I had it I'd probably sink it in the ocean or put it somewhere else where no one could possibly use it. I don't trust my decision-making process and temper enough to give myself absolute power over life and death, I'd have a bad day and in a moment of weakness some guy that annoyed me online would drop dead. And I definitely don't trust anyone else to have it.

mailedbypostman1
11-11-2011, 11:17 AM
I would use it, but I don't have the resources to know who's the right person to take out. Pass

The Zapper
11-11-2011, 01:20 PM
It's only one of the most popular comics of the past decade, with multiple movies and anime spun off and based on it.
It's one of the most popular Japanese comics of the past decade. You're making it sound as if they didn't know who Batman was.


There's also a thing called "google" for folks who want to wave the "I have no idea what this is" flag, as if it's a weird point of pride. (It's not)

Yes people could use google, and maybe some people wave the "I have no idea what this is" flag, but most people are probably just being honest when they say they haven't heard of some obscure Japanese comic/anime. Hell, if I wasn't on CBR as much as I am, I too would have had no idea what Death Note was.

Xiroteus
11-11-2011, 01:27 PM
I'm aware of the series but never really tried the anime or manga. From what I'd heard I figured it was just about a guy that kills a different person each episode, and that's not really my thing. Maybe I misjudged it?

I am seeing what it is really about as well, not that I care if a bunch of evil people die. That concept would sure get boring when that is the focus.


If I had it I'd probably sink it in the ocean or put it somewhere else where no one could possibly use it. I don't trust my decision-making process and temper enough to give myself absolute power over life and death, I'd have a bad day and in a moment of weakness some guy that annoyed me online would drop dead. And I definitely don't trust anyone else to have it.

I trust myself, it more about no one person should have that much power over anyone on earth. At the same time there could be a case where using it could save a lot of lives as long as you were the persons name though. Still, a lot of power for any one or group to have.

Kid Omega
11-11-2011, 01:43 PM
It's one of the most popular Japanese comics of the past decade. You're making it sound as if they didn't know who Batman was.



Yes people could use google, and maybe some people wave the "I have no idea what this is" flag, but most people are probably just being honest when they say they haven't heard of some obscure Japanese comic/anime. Hell, if I wasn't on CBR as much as I am, I too would have had no idea what Death Note was.

It's not obscure at all.

It sold gangbusters in the US, and the movies were in limited release here. Not to mention the anime is in rotation on Cartoon network.

I'm sorry, if you're posting on a Comic Book message board, not being aware of one of the best comic books of the past decade is something to be ashamed of, not something to drop in and say, as if the OP is some sort of weirdo.

Which is what was happening.

Kid Omega
11-11-2011, 01:44 PM
I'm aware of the series but never really tried the anime or manga. From what I'd heard I figured it was just about a guy that kills a different person each episode, and that's not really my thing. Maybe I misjudged it?


That's really not the appeal or story at all.

It's worth a read.

Xiroteus
11-11-2011, 01:53 PM
It's not obscure at all.

It sold gangbusters in the US, and the movies were in limited release here. Not to mention the anime is in rotation on Cartoon network.

I'm sorry, if you're posting on a Comic Book message board, not being aware of one of the best comic books of the past decade is something to be ashamed of, not something to drop in and say, as if the OP is some sort of weirdo.

Which is what was happening.

I do not follow much in the way of anime, of course I will base something on the story. I knew the basic concept and the name, taking a look at the comic at the moment. Sometimes things can pass by if it is not in ones normal loop of shows or comics.

the4thpip
11-11-2011, 02:18 PM
That's really not the appeal or story at all.

It's worth a read.

... says the Bendis fan, so I shall pass.

Kid Omega
11-11-2011, 02:34 PM
... says the Bendis fan, so I shall pass.

a) if you really can't admit that Bendis has some writing chops from time to time, you are either closed-minded or have poor taste. Or both.

b) I have never been boiled down to the essence and summarily labeled and written off as a "Bendis fan" before. It's kind of hilarious, and I'm sure anyone who knows my extremely catholic tastes in comics is agreeing.

Kid Omega
11-11-2011, 02:36 PM
I do not follow much in the way of anime, of course I will base something on the story. I knew the basic concept and the name, taking a look at the comic at the moment. Sometimes things can pass by if it is not in ones normal loop of shows or comics.

Sure- that's why I get overly irritated when people are flip and dismissive of new stuff on forums like this one, which is a good place to find new comics.

I hope you enjoy it!

Kees_L
11-11-2011, 03:17 PM
I have never been boiled down to the essence and summarily labeled and written off as a "Bendis fan" before. It's kind of hilarious, and I'm sure anyone who knows my extremely catholic tastes in comics is agreeing.

So you do NOT deny to be liking certain comics then? On CBR?!

I do hope you're proud of yourself, mister!

The Zapper
11-11-2011, 03:59 PM
It's not obscure at all. To the vast majority of people who live in the USA, yes, yes it is very obscure.


It sold gangbusters in the US, and the movies were in limited release here. Not to mention the anime is in rotation on Cartoon network.
It sold gangbusters for what it is, an anime.

I'm sorry, if you're posting on a Comic Book message board, not being aware of one of the best comic books of the past decade is something to be ashamed of
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And I'm sorry, but you're really over selling how "popular" it was in the United States. It had a cult following at best, and just another obscure anime at worse.

carabas
11-11-2011, 04:00 PM
It's one of the most popular Japanese comics of the past decade. You're making it sound as if they didn't know who Batman was.Well, I don't know how well the films and animé did, but as far as comics sales are concerned, Batman is kinda small potatoes compared to Death Note.

dupont2005
11-11-2011, 04:07 PM
I had heard of Death Note and knew it was an anime on TV. Didn't know what channel or how popular it was, or that there was a manga to go with it. Now that I do know, I still don't care:smile:

The Zapper
11-11-2011, 04:13 PM
Well, I don't know how well the films and animé did, but as far as comics sales are concerned, Batman is kinda small potatoes compared to Death Note.

Maybe world wide. I'm strictly talking about in the United States though. I'm sure it's very popular in Japan and some other Asian markets. I honestly don't know, and care enough, to look up world wide sales and what markets did what.

glue
11-11-2011, 04:33 PM
Seeing as there are people here from all over the world, I'm wondering why you're only concerned with it's popularity in the US.

And this is also confusing.

To the vast majority of people who live in the USA, yes, yes it is very obscure.

We're on a comics forum. The level of awareness of "the vast majority of people" is irrelevant to how well known it is/should be to this crowd.

Kid Omega
11-11-2011, 07:04 PM
To the vast majority of people who live in the USA, yes, yes it is very obscure.


It sold gangbusters for what it is, an anime.



And I'm sorry, but you're really over selling how "popular" it was in the United States. It had a cult following at best, and just another obscure anime at worse.[/QUOTE]

You really, really don't know what you're talking about.

Why you speak with a voice of authority, I do not know, but you're factually incorrect.

carabas
11-11-2011, 07:44 PM
To the vast majority of people who live in the USA, yes, yes it is very obscure.To the vast majority of people who live in the USA, any and all comics printed on paper, including Batman, are rather obscure.[/QUOTE]


Maybe world wide. I'm strictly talking about in the United States though. I'm sure it's very popular in Japan and some other Asian markets. I honestly don't know, and care enough, to look up world wide sales and what markets did what.Considering the truelly pathetic sales of even Diamond's top 10, I'd be hesitant to put money on that. The vast majority of manga sales are outide of the direct market.

The Zapper
11-11-2011, 07:54 PM
We're on a comics forum. The level of awareness of "the vast majority of people" is irrelevant to how well known it is/should be to this crowd.

This I agree with. It's the thought that Death Note is somehow well known outside of a tiny minority of comic/anime fans that I disagree with. Hell, I love Cowboy Bebop, but I'm not going to try to convince anyone that they should know it because Adult Swim played it at one in the morning. Sorry, nothing short of numbers of how great the manga sold, or how high the ratings were is going to convince me that Death Note is so popular in the USA.

Alex L
11-11-2011, 09:22 PM
I'm aware of the series but never really tried the anime or manga. From what I'd heard I figured it was just about a guy that kills a different person each episode, and that's not really my thing. Maybe I misjudged it?

Kindasortanotreally. To the Wiki!

The main character is Light Yagami, a high school student who discovers a supernatural notebook, the "Death Note", dropped on Earth by a god of death. The Death Note grants its user the ability to kill anyone whose name and face they know, by writing the name in the notebook while picturing their face. The series centers around Light's attempt to create and rule a world "cleansed of evil" as "God" using the notebook, and the efforts of a detective known as L to stop him.


This I agree with. It's the thought that Death Note is somehow well known outside of a tiny minority of comic/anime fans that I disagree with. Hell, I love Cowboy Bebop, but I'm not going to try to convince anyone that they should know it because Adult Swim played it at one in the morning. Sorry, nothing short of numbers of how great the manga sold, or how high the ratings were is going to convince me that Death Note is so popular in the USA.

I would not be surprised at all to hear that there are more fans of Japanese anime/manga than there are American comic books, so I respectfully disagree with your conclusion. I am fairly certain you will find more people in the States who know of Death Note, than you will people who know what the Justice Society is.

Jer
11-11-2011, 09:59 PM
Death Note is highly popular amongest the anime crowd. With Comic fans who don't regular watch anime or amongest the general population ... not so much.

mailedbypostman1
11-11-2011, 10:40 PM
Pretty much. I mean, given time, I'm sure it'll become well known in the general populace, but as of now...

coveredinbees
11-11-2011, 10:53 PM
I guess I might as well. Don't you go to hell for just touching it?

Professor Moriarty
11-11-2011, 10:54 PM
yes.

and i have a long list of people i'd use it on.

Kees_L
11-12-2011, 04:49 AM
I do not follow much in the way of anime, of course I will base something on the story. I knew the basic concept and the name, taking a look at the comic at the moment. Sometimes things can pass by if it is not in ones normal loop of shows or comics.

Look, it's not being argued that anyone should have to be aware of 'Death Note',
but it's being argued that any title reaching huge US sales plus a prime time run on the US cartoon network should be thought of as pretty big and popular instead of obscure in any way - even if people could still be unaware of it.


To the vast majority of people who live in the USA, yes, yes it is very obscure.


It sold gangbusters for what it is, an anime.

And I'm sorry, but you're really over selling how "popular" it was in the United States. It had a cult following at best, and just another obscure anime at worse.
Zapper, you're sounding as if anything non-American-made should never be called anything other than obscure within America, as if any foreign stuff could never be considered 'big' in America.
If such would indeed be your attitude, then I'd call it stupid.

Jer
11-12-2011, 07:33 AM
Pretty much. I mean, given time, I'm sure it'll become well known in the general populace, but as of now...

If being on cartoon network doesn't make it well known, if the general populace didn't know it then ... less likely that it would be popular now or well known in the future considering that most people have short term memories for these types of shows.

Shawn Hopkins
11-12-2011, 09:09 AM
That's really not the appeal or story at all.

It's worth a read.

What is the appeal, then? The cat and mouse game between Light and L? I went and did some research like you suggested, but I realized I was spoiling the whole series for myself by trying to figure it out from summaries. :smile:

Kid Omega
11-12-2011, 09:56 AM
Just grab the first volume and start reading.

It's a great suspense story between two brilliant characters, and the appeal is in the unfolding and the super tight plotting.

Don't read any spoilers!!!

The Zapper
11-12-2011, 11:24 AM
Zapper, you're sounding as if anything non-American-made should never be called anything other than obscure within America, as if any foreign stuff could never be considered 'big' in America.
If such would indeed be your attitude, then I'd call it stupid.

That's not what I was trying to get at. I do however, still believe Death Note is obscure in American culture. If you still find me stupid, that's fine. I don't find the people I'm arguing with stupid. I just think they're letting their fondness for the product cloud their judgement. Anyway, if people want to think Death Note is famous in America, that's fine, I'll let them. This is a boring conversation anyway.

Xiroteus
11-12-2011, 11:32 AM
Look, it's not being argued that anyone should have to be aware of 'Death Note',
but it's being argued that any title reaching huge US sales plus a prime time run on the US cartoon network should be thought of as pretty big and popular instead of obscure in any way - even if people could still be unaware of it.

Thinking about it now there can be overall popular things that can pass up by because we may watch television differently, or not see it online. I know there are country wide popular shows that I may just know the name of because I ignore it. Or a singer like Taylor Swift, I know of her and that she is popular yet I cannot recall if I have even heard one of her songs. Appears it can be easy to miss things that are popular if you are not around where it can be.

Kid Omega
11-12-2011, 12:07 PM
That's not what I was trying to get at. I do however, still believe Death Note is obscure in American culture. If you still find me stupid, that's fine. I don't find the people I'm arguing with stupid. I just think they're letting their fondness for the product cloud their judgement. Anyway, if people want to think Death Note is famous in America, that's fine, I'll let them. This is a boring conversation anyway.

It outsells most superhero books, and has had a successful run in spinoff media and merchandising.

The numbers prove the point, not fondness. Most of my favorite books sell like crap. Affectipn for the material doesnt enter into it .I don't pull this stuff out of thin air... This is just the way it is. Bug I think what has happened is that you probably fancy yourself a big fan, and an informed reader, and now something crosses your purview that reminds you there is more under the sun than you know. Rather than get excited about something awesome to read you hadn't heard of before, you disparage the material and get tribal (oh those anime fans!)...

It's a good way to miss out on some good, and very popular material.

To answer the original question....

No. I don't think so. The supernatural elements would freak me out.

The Zapper
11-12-2011, 12:41 PM
It outsells most superhero books, and has had a successful run in spinoff media and merchandising.
I find most superhero's obscure to the masses as well though. I'm not hating on Death Note, I just don't think it's famous in America.


you disparage the material and get tribal (oh those anime fans!)...
I actually like some anime. I absolutely love Cowboy Bebop, but I still think it's an obscure anime here in the states. Same thing with Gunsmith Cats. I have all the mangas and own the DVD. Those are just two of my favorite animes/mangas. Don't confuse me with an anime hater.
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howyadoin
11-12-2011, 12:45 PM
Jeez, if I had the power of Death Note, I'd be knocking people off left and right. With absolutely no qualms.

Same here. Facebook would become a weapon.I must admit, I'm in the same boat. On the plus side, I don't have nearly as much repressed anger as I did when I was a younger man.

Winslow
11-12-2011, 01:24 PM
I would use Death Note once and then probably feel so guilty, I'd commit suicide and use it on myself with a self-portrait.


I must admit, I'm in the same boat. On the plus side, I don't have nearly as much repressed anger as I did when I was a younger man.

Me too. I'm like the old mellow dog that sits on the porch and say,"what a stupid mutherfucker" ... rather than the young dog that runs out there yipping and barking.

Winslow
11-12-2011, 01:26 PM
I actually like some anime. I absolutely love Cowboy Bebop, but I still think it's an obscure anime here in the states. Same thing with Gunsmith Cats. I have all the mangas and own the DVD. Those are just two of my favorite animes/mangas. Don't confuse me with an anime hater.


What do you mean by obscure? In the broader context of the whole population ... maybe. I have no way of evaluating that.

Within the realm of comics fans, I'd say no way.

Edit: I had not read the conversation on the first page when I posted. No snark or offense intended. My kids read Shonen Jump and the comic shop I went to stocked tons of manga. In my realm of experience, it's a well known title.

Captain Clarkie
11-12-2011, 01:36 PM
in answer to the OP, it would probably depend on how drunk I was.

Winslow
11-12-2011, 01:41 PM
in answer to the OP, it would probably depend on how drunk I was.

For those of us that know Clarkie in RITAs, that means all the time.

Captain Clarkie
11-12-2011, 01:48 PM
For those of us that know Clarkie in RITAs, that means all the time.

Well there are stages. Kill everyone I don't like is probably some way along the Angry drunk scale between Happy/Cheeky drunk and Maudlin/Post Classical Music drunk. It's a small window, in fairness to myself.

G.I.JOSE
11-17-2011, 08:44 AM
Imagine if the Death NoTe had an oath like the green lanterns...


Kira Corps Oath

The god of the new world has dawned from the light,
and no evil shall ever escape his sight.
Let those worship Kira's might, spread his word:
"More scum will die tonight".

Daniel Mengsk
11-18-2011, 07:38 PM
I would write 'Earth' on my Death Note.

thwhtGuardian
11-18-2011, 08:28 PM
It outsells most superhero books, and has had a successful run in spinoff media and merchandising.

The numbers prove the point, not fondness. Most of my favorite books sell like crap. Affectipn for the material doesnt enter into it .I don't pull this stuff out of thin air... This is just the way it is. Bug I think what has happened is that you probably fancy yourself a big fan, and an informed reader, and now something crosses your purview that reminds you there is more under the sun than you know. Rather than get excited about something awesome to read you hadn't heard of before, you disparage the material and get tribal (oh those anime fans!)...

It's a good way to miss out on some good, and very popular material.

To answer the original question....

No. I don't think so. The supernatural elements would freak me out.

This is the top 20 list of best selling graphic novels in 2010 from book scan(which represents the sales through various book stores not the direct market):
168,330 -- DORK DIARIES
126,558 -- TWILIGHT GRAPHIC NOVEL V1
124,808 -- ADV OF OOK & GLUK KUNG FU CAVEMEN
90,664 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 1
72,703 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 2
70,393 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 6
64,238 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 3
62,720 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 4
59,805 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 5
53,155 -- NARUTO V47
42,917 -- NARUTO V48
41,949 -- BONE OUT FROM BONEVILLE
38,378 -- KICK ASS PREMIERE
34,948 -- BIG NATE FROM THE TOP
34,376 -- MAUS I
33,292 -- WALKING DEAD V1 DAYS GONE BYE
29,656 -- BLACK BUTLER V1
29,171 -- WALKING DEAD COMPENDIUM 1
29,171 -- WATCHMEN
28,943 -- EXILE AN OUTLANDER GRAPHIC NOV

Brian Hibbs doesn't give the full list, but he does mention that Tsugumi Ohba ,the author of Death Note, has 14 entries in the top 750 best sellers list. Still with the 20th place book only selling 28,943 what ever numbers Death note put up probably weren't that tremendous.

It's a fantastic series, but it's no Naruto sales wise.

Alex L
11-19-2011, 09:38 PM
This is the top 20 list of best selling graphic novels in 2010 from book scan(which represents the sales through various book stores not the direct market):
168,330 -- DORK DIARIES
126,558 -- TWILIGHT GRAPHIC NOVEL V1
124,808 -- ADV OF OOK & GLUK KUNG FU CAVEMEN
90,664 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 1
72,703 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 2
70,393 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 6
64,238 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 3
62,720 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 4
59,805 -- SCOTT PILGRIM V 5
53,155 -- NARUTO V47
42,917 -- NARUTO V48
41,949 -- BONE OUT FROM BONEVILLE
38,378 -- KICK ASS PREMIERE
34,948 -- BIG NATE FROM THE TOP
34,376 -- MAUS I
33,292 -- WALKING DEAD V1 DAYS GONE BYE
29,656 -- BLACK BUTLER V1
29,171 -- WALKING DEAD COMPENDIUM 1
29,171 -- WATCHMEN
28,943 -- EXILE AN OUTLANDER GRAPHIC NOV

Brian Hibbs doesn't give the full list, but he does mention that Tsugumi Ohba ,the author of Death Note, has 14 entries in the top 750 best sellers list. Still with the 20th place book only selling 28,943 what ever numbers Death note put up probably weren't that tremendous.

It's a fantastic series, but it's no Naruto sales wise.


the top 20 list of best selling graphic novels in 2010

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Death_Note_chapters

The Death Note manga is licensed by Viz Media for North American distribution under their "Shonen Jump Advanced" imprint. Viz published the first volume on October 10, 2005, and the last on July 3, 2007.

I'll grant you that Naruto almost definitely outsold it even when Death Note was still coming out (likely by vast multiples), but c'mon...

Brock
11-20-2011, 01:16 AM
I'd use it very selectively.

Reading in the news how the Zeta Cartel are continuing to indiscriminately kill civilains in Mexico, makes me wish that someone could wipe them out with the stroke of a pen.

Sadly, there are many other examples to choose from worldwide.

thwhtGuardian
11-20-2011, 02:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Death_Note_chapters


I'll grant you that Naruto almost definitely outsold it even when Death Note was still coming out (likely by vast multiples), but c'mon...

I posted the 2010 because it was the most current, and to illustrate just how small the number of GN's sold really is.

Using numbers from '07 Death Note volume 1 would place at number ten with 50k sold. A fair number of superhero comics sell much that per issue.

Chris N
11-20-2011, 02:31 PM
I only get rankled because it's really, really good, and people should read it, or at least have it on their radar. Easily one of the best suspense comics of the past several years, if not THE best...

I haven't read the comic, but have seen my share of the anime. It did not help me parse the title of the thread.

Dr Will Hatch
11-20-2011, 02:42 PM
I've heard on an anecdotal basis that Death Note is more accessible to people not used to the genre. It was definitely a gateway for me personally into watching/reading more anime and manga. It has a lot of style to it that appeals to a Western audience.

As for the OP's question, no, I would never use it. I'm not a killer. What I would have trouble with is-how do I let people know that things like shinigami exist without letting the actual notebook get into the hands of bad people.

Posts: 2,222. Woo hoo!

Omega Alpha
11-20-2011, 04:57 PM
I wouldn't want to use it at first, but eventually I know I wouldn't be able to control myself to not kill the mass murderers of the world. Or my boss for not giving me a raise. Or that neighbor that keeps that music way too loud late at night. Or...some CBR posters that I find annoying:evilsmile:

Paradox
11-20-2011, 10:23 PM
I'd either find a way to destroy it or bury it away somewhere. Cold-blooded murder (as opposed to say, killing in the act of defending one's self or someone else) is a childish answer to the world's problems. I'd be more likely to be on the side of the guy tracking him down.

G.I.JOSE
11-21-2011, 04:25 AM
As for the OP's question, no, I would never use it. I'm not a killer. What I would have trouble with is-how do I let people know that things like shinigami exist without letting the actual notebook get into the hands of bad people.

Posts: 2,222. Woo hoo!

Harvey Dent, is that you ? :biggrin:


I'd either find a way to destroy it or bury it away somewhere. Cold-blooded murder (as opposed to say, killing in the act of defending one's self or someone else) is a childish answer to the world's problems. I'd be more likely to be on the side of the guy tracking him down.

But by killing certain people, you may save lives..

Steward Ace
11-21-2011, 02:33 PM
But by killing certain people, you may save lives..

Doubt it. By the time you know who they are, they've usually been caught already.

Kid Omega
11-21-2011, 02:44 PM
I'd either find a way to destroy it or bury it away somewhere. Cold-blooded murder (as opposed to say, killing in the act of defending one's self or someone else) is a childish answer to the world's problems. I'd be more likely to be on the side of the guy tracking him down.

some great things about the manga is that

a. it really justifies the kid who uses it, and while he is basically a sociopath, his reasoning almost sways the reader

and

b. it establishes a supernatural element where you think, "there's no freaking way anyone could figure this out", and then it introduces a detective so smart, that he reasons out exactly what is happening, and it all makes sense. And he stays clear of being killed in a brilliant fashion, while other detectives get taken out all around him...


good stuff.

G.I.JOSE
11-22-2011, 02:09 PM
Doubt it. By the time you know who they are, they've usually been caught already.

There is people in the world that will never , ever, be "caught" like the ones that broke the economy, the ones that profit for (and engineer) endless wars, most the world`s dictators, and the billionaire pedophiles that spend their vacations on third world countries hurting children .

Shellhead
11-22-2011, 03:14 PM
I spend the Death Note at the local comic book store. Can I do that?

Paradox
11-23-2011, 09:42 PM
Kid Omega plugs:

some great things about the manga is that

a. it really justifies the kid who uses it, and while he is basically a sociopath, his reasoning almost sways the reader

and

b. it establishes a supernatural element where you think, "there's no freaking way anyone could figure this out", and then it introduces a detective so smart, that he reasons out exactly what is happening, and it all makes sense. And he stays clear of being killed in a brilliant fashion, while other detectives get taken out all around him...


good stuff.

Oh, I assumed, with you recommending it so fiercely. My real life moral take aside, there's a lot of interesting things that can be explored with the concept.