View Full Version : Who's More Sorry?
Foon4000
09-30-2011, 07:50 AM
Several of the core X-Cast have recently had huge personal crisises, resulting in a moral audit, a mea culpa and the turning over of a new leaf.
Wolverine's recent solo book killing spree has led him to set up the Jean Grey Institute. Getting shot and nearly dead-ed spurred Professor X on an apology tour across the world and early retirement.
But who is the MOST sorry? Who's sticking to their life resolution? Who cries bitter tears of regret into their pillow every night? Are any of them really sincere? How long before Wolverine abandons the school and Professor X sends a child out to die?
mikeb
09-30-2011, 07:57 AM
Going back nearly 30 years,Rogue is the most sorry for what she did...
IN-A-SYNCH
09-30-2011, 08:02 AM
Cyke is sorry for Jean getting killed and having this boring relationship with Emma Frost.
But sticking to the subject anyway i think Emma is the most regretful but it seems she shows it like she did before.
MarvelMaster616
09-30-2011, 08:25 AM
I vote Xavier becuase not only has his excessive secrets and overall decline hurt his credibility, he's had to watch as his students excel without him. Then he watches as it all falls apart and does nothing to assist them. He's a guy that both Wolverine and Cyclops would take seriously if he tried to involve himself in Schism, but he didn't. His inaction requires the biggest apology in my opinion.
xhx23x
09-30-2011, 08:34 AM
I voted Emma is because it's clear is something she will never forgive herself for. Even when Kitty "died" she added her to the list. She has an extreme survivor's guilt complex when it comes to her younger charges and I wish the writers would remember that from time to time.
I'm still counting on Regenesis for an actual argument from her and not just choosing Cykes to boost his damaged ego.
ohsnapulon5000
09-30-2011, 08:37 AM
Proffessor X for sure. I can't imagine as I watched my dream literally spiral out of control, mutate, into the lunatic version of what is is now.
Iceman has got to feel pretty sorry as well. He's the only member of the 05 that hasn't become totally dark and twisted with thousands of lives on his hands. That's got to bring up either some major guilt or major apprehension about when it will happen to him.
Khajit
09-30-2011, 08:37 AM
Rogue by far.
1derer
09-30-2011, 08:37 AM
Gambit feeliing sorry about his past is the point of half of his solo storylines, Even his time in X-23 dealt with his past dealings.
So Gambit.
xhx23x
09-30-2011, 08:38 AM
Proffessor X for sure. I can't imagine as I watched my dream literally spiral out of control, mutate, into the lunatic version of what is is now.
Iceman has got to feel pretty sorry as well. He's the only member of the 05 that hasn't become totally dark and twisted with thousands of lives on his hands. That's got to bring up either some major guilt or major apprehension about when it will happen to him.
I would love to see a Dark Iceman Saga. But marvel would treat it like a parody and Iceman would come off as a goof.
ohsnapulon5000
09-30-2011, 08:43 AM
I would love to see a Dark Iceman Saga. But marvel would treat it like a parody and Iceman would come off as a goof.
the event would span two blue states in middle america and the max damage that would come out of it is a lost crop of potatoes. Betsy would take him out with, embarassingly, a sneak attack. Marvel would definitely do this to him.
f4faith
09-30-2011, 08:52 AM
Gambit feeliing sorry about his past is the point of half of his solo storylines, Even his time in X-23 dealt with his past dealings.
So Gambit.
Gambit was admitting to feeling guilty about his past prior to the writers even deciding what is was and he's still expressed that guilt in X-23. He's easily been punished more in the books that most of the others too. Marvel repeatedly reminds us what he's done in the past (unlike the Emmas and Magnetos), how he's gained and lost trust, and has taken him out of the books over what he's done to most (essentially banishing him for his "crimes") and he's the only one of the list that had to actually appologize and act remorseful for ages for his mistake of the massacre to get accepted back in. It's been going on for nearly 20 years with the character.
Xavier is not a bad choice but I don't think its held over his head as much as with Gambit's character.
I think Rogue is a good example in her early days despite that a lot of her early remorse was over how it affected her but its not been a issue for 20 years and I don't see her thinking about it much anymore.
xhx23x
09-30-2011, 09:07 AM
the event would span two blue states in middle america and the max damage that would come out of it is a lost crop of potatoes. Betsy would take him out with, embarassingly, a sneak attack. Marvel would definitely do this to him.
So true... but would be left with a compelling argument for years to come.
What was more tragic? Brocoli people dying due to Pheonix or Potatoes dying due to Dark Ice (Also a marketted drink that would come out of the event)?
wader0069
09-30-2011, 09:35 AM
Professor X for sure. The man is riddled with guilt and shame.
Moonshine
09-30-2011, 09:43 AM
Professor X for sure. The man is riddled with guilt and shame.
The Professor I can see and Gambit I can see as good choices on this list as they were always trying to live off regrets even before we knew what they were. I don't get the Emma vote at all except she's popular. There is nothing in the stories that indicates to me that she looses a lot of sleep over her supposed guilt. Nor that most of her "not doing things that she did in the past" has anything to do with guilt. She was "guilty" in Gen X but still was doing much of the same stuff just for a new cause. She's only become "Mom Emma" because she stuck with Scott.
Foon4000
09-30-2011, 09:51 AM
Going back nearly 30 years,Rogue is the most sorry for what she did...
I left Rogue off because nobody questions her motivations anymore. She's the example of personal change the others are striving for. I don't think she's the most sorry, though- she was more bent out of shape about Carol living in her head than guilty about taking Carol's life away.
I voted for Emma- if she stays in character she shouldn't go back to villainy. She's gotten far more out of being one of the good guys and she really did love teaching and care about the Hellions and the Gen-X kids. Gambit's also a con-ten-dah.
Moonshine
09-30-2011, 10:07 AM
I voted for Emma- if she stays in character she shouldn't go back to villainy. She's gotten far more out of being one of the good guys and she really did love teaching and care about the Hellions and the Gen-X kids. Gambit's also a con-ten-dah.
But how is getting more benefit out of being one of the good guys = guilt? I would put Frenzy in that category then because the real reason she's "changed sides" is that for the moment she thinks she'll get more out of being a good guy than a bad one. That's an emphasis on self not guilt or others. Magneto has changed sides for the same reason as well because he sees it as the "best way" to get what he wants not because he's that terribly guilty for what he's done. I do agree with you that as long as Emma's getting to be big woman on campus and gets the supposed love of her life and gets to teach she's perfectly thrilled being an X-Man. I don't see that as regret for past actions and a concern for doing them again or actual change because of being sorry/feeling guilt.
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