Kick Ass 2 #4 *Spoilers*

[vicvega]

Comes out tomorrow. I'm pretty excited, this has been one of my favorite series this year along with Chew and Sweet Tooth and Daredevil. It's supposed to be the return issue of hit girl btw

[vicvega]

This Issue was nuts. Red Mist makes for a great villain. Book moves the story along nicely with a cool twist ending

[DarkWarriorBlake]

No need for the things in this tbh. I'm not a prude or anything but it seemed like the same senseless acts that permeated Nemesis, just for the sake of it.

[Spidey616]

iCarly loses a few viewers.....

Damn

[Jake V]

What a dumb comic.

It's as if Millar was checking off a list of bad comics cliches.

I can't see much of this making it into the movie sequel if it ever gets made.

[DarkWarriorBlake]

What a dumb comic.

It's as if Millar was checking off a list of bad comics cliches.

I can't see much of this making it into the movie sequel if it ever gets made.

The rape certainly won't.

Nor the part immediately before it.

[samson3191]

I hated this issue.

The movie is one of my favorites ever. The comic was good. The first few issues of the 2nd installment were okay and showed potential.

This was too much. Killing little children, killing the girl's dad and then gang-raping her? Atleast Kick-Ass 1 had a point and a story. Now it just seems like Millar is seeing how far he can push the envelope. This was terrible.

[vicvega]

This does have a story. It's a story of escalation in the real world superhero community an ome man's revenge against society for wronging him. Everything has a story man. Also, you shoul've expected this level of violence when Millar implicitly stated himself that the book was going to be "more messed up" and "darker"

[Jake V]

This does have a story. It's a story of escalation in the real world superhero community an ome man's revenge against society for wronging him. Everything has a story man. Also, you shoul've expected this level of violence when Millar implicitly stated himself that the book was going to be "more messed up" and "darker"

No, you're right. I expected it to be this bad.

[Huthaifa]

Its hard for me to call this book bad because of the following:

1)John Romita's art

2)As horrible as the killings were, they made sense. Red Mist is nuts. He is trying to show off.

3)Hit Girl's dialogue. Really, if this was just a Hit Girl comic, I would be perfectly happy.

4)Mother Russia. Best New Villianess in a long time. God, i wish she could fight the Punisher or rape him.



This book was hard to swallow. Children being gunned down is way too much to take,but evil acts should not be cool. They should disgust you. No way any of this is in the next movie.

[Darth Pipes]

This issue was seriously ****ed up.


3)Hit Girl's dialogue. Really, if this was just a Hit Girl comic, I would be perfectly happy.



Was awesome, I agree.

[TimmyG316]

for me this is tied for second best book pulled this week. Its totally about escalation, you could tell that from last issue with the way they killed that guy and hiss dog. The toddlers are an escalation of killing the dog. What I think people are rung up on is the obvious rape that happened (I guess we finally have an answer for that has rape ever occured in a comic thread). Granted, I was shocked and found it a little tasteless but here are my thoughts after thinking about it (and thats what the scean does it gets you to think). First, remember the way this girl was in the first series, especially at the end, not that anyone deserves this but I didn't 100% feel bad for her after how she mocked Kick-Ass. Second, this is what real life bad guys do, whcih is totally keeping in line with the books premise fo real super heros and super villians, its practically inevitable something terrible is going to happen. Third, ok I dont have a third btu the book was really good and people should see past this taboo scean and see the book for what it is. at least everything happened off panel.

[shark]

This was disgusting. Few writers can write rape scenes and Millar is not one of them.

[vicvega]

its not like the rape was shown; just the beginning and after

[Ebon Phantom]

Only thing I enjoyed about this issue was Hit Girl and the new villianess Mother Russia. Honestly can't wait for a showdown between the two of them.

[vicvega]

i think that's supposed to happen in issue 6 of 7. So instead of 8 issues, #7 is just getting double-sized.

[samson3191]

This does have a story. It's a story of escalation in the real world superhero community an ome man's revenge against society for wronging him. Everything has a story man. Also, you shoul've expected this level of violence when Millar implicitly stated himself that the book was going to be "more messed up" and "darker"

My problem with it is, it seems to be way more about how far Millar can push the violence and depravity and less about making the story actually...well, good. I can handle the violence, but when it's non-stop and overly gratuitous just for its own sake, I can't enjoy it.

[Sentinel Supreme]

evil acts should not be cool. They should disgust you. No way any of this is in the next movie.

This. As a Catholic, I think Millar is trying to make a clear point about the unpardonable nature of true evil. If you still think that The Mother Fucker (because let's be honest, he's not called Red Mist anymore folks) is cool, well then you must be one sick f#$%. Most villains claim to do bad, villainous stuff all the time, but really- they never do. They plan crazy schemes and get busted before people get hurt. This guy, he strolls into a residential neighborhood, shoots some kids, and gang rapes an innocent teenager.

I guess what shook me up the most about this comic, and this new volume of Kick Ass in general, is that along with the escalation, it seems more plausible. This level of villainy actually happens. Maybe not in the suburbs, but stuff like this happens in the world all the time and there aren't any Kick-Asses or Justice Forever groups to help.

Unless you count the cosplayers who help grandmother's cross the street.

[vicvega]

This. As a Catholic, I think Millar is trying to make a clear point about the unpardonable nature of true evil. If you still think that The Mother Fucker (because let's be honest, he's not called Red Mist anymore folks) is cool, well then you must be one sick f#$%. Most villains claim to do bad, villainous stuff all the time, but really- they never do. They plan crazy schemes and get busted before people get hurt. This guy, he strolls into a residential neighborhood, shoots some kids, and gang rapes an innocent teenager.

I guess what shook me up the most about this comic, and this new volume of Kick Ass in general, is that along with the escalation, it seems more plausible. This level of villainy actually happens. Maybe not in the suburbs, but stuff like this happens in the world all the time and there aren't any Kick-Asses or Justice Forever groups to help.

Unless you count the cosplayers who help grandmother's cross the street.
hit the nail on the head ight here. I think the Mother Fucker could become a great villain because he's realistic enough. If a psychopath had access to money and weapons and a costume this is how it would play out. The Mother Fucker is the perfect example of a real world super villain. I think he could become really iconic if promoted enough. Best new villain of 2011. He's also doing this not because he is sick (well that too), but mostly because the heros wrecked his life. He has a reason to get back at them.

[StoneGold]

hit the nail on the head ight here. I think the Mother Fucker could become a great villain because he's realistic enough. If a psychopath had access to money and weapons and a costume this is how it would play out. The Mother Fucker is the perfect example of a real world super villain. I think he could become really iconic if promoted enough. Best new villain of 2011. He's also doing this not because he is sick (well that too), but mostly because the heros wrecked his life. He has a reason to get back at them.

Mother Fucker is. Mother Russia, not so much. She's basically Hit Girl grown up. And really, this part of the story is basically the same as the part in the first book where Dave ran into Hit Girl. Except... somewhat more logical.


If you're going to be the supervillain to a bunch of superhero wannabes, you only have so many options. Robbing banks probably isn't one of them.

[Acronym]

I find it very hard to argue that the rape was justified in the comic. It was shock value and writers always employ to show 'evil' the character is when its a sick and cheap tool and rape should never be trivialized like that. So what now?, she's in hospital Kick Ass has a reason to kill MF and Hit Girl will be back next issue and probably die in the series. So great plot advances for some cheap thrills and shocks, what a lame comic.

[ugdave]

Man I knew this issue was going to generate controversy as I was reading it.

Many people reading this might know Millar only through Kick Ass (and maybe even just the movie). And as messed up as both of those are, those are NOTHING compared to where Millar is willing to go (Nemesis is a great example). If he's writing a "real world" bad guy scenario, the bad guy is going to do horrible things that are as gritty and ugly as those real things that happen in the real world.

Sometimes reading a Millar comic is like a crazy roller coaster. It might be thrilling in parts, it might be fun in parts, but you might just end up feeling a little sick once you get off the ride.

I just can't wait for Hit Girl to get involved. With everything escalated so far above the original, I can only imagine the slaughterhouse she's going to create.

Hold on to your guts kids - this is just gettin warmed up.

[Beamish]

Threw it away after I saw the panel when they were re-fastening their pants. I don't tolerate rape scenes in comics. It's disgusting in real life. I don't need to see it in a comic (even implied or the aftermath), much less condone it when I purchase the comic. If I would have known it was in there, I never would have purchased it.

[MegaGearX]

I don't have a problem with the rape or the murders.

This is what villains will do out of spite for the hero if they ever find out who the hero is related to or loves. This is why secret identies are important or stuff like this happens.

[DarkWarriorBlake]

We have real world villains.

Even real world villains will generally hate on people who kill kids.

I'm not opposed to it, the kids in Fallout 3 needed to be killable, but here it isn't a genuine flow from real world villainy, it's for shock value, plain and simple.

[Acronym]

The rape didn't show any purpose except to show truly evil they are. I was embarrassed even reading this junk on the tube to work, women get a raw deal in comics.

[zur en arrh]

I started laughing several times during this issue just imagining how much hate it's gonna stir up.

[MegaGearX]

The rape didn't show any purpose except to show truly evil they are. I was embarrassed even reading this junk on the tube to work, women get a raw deal in comics.

The Motherfucker hates Kick Ass for killing his father and destroying his life so much, that he took it out on Katie and apparently his father. This is how low Red Mist has sunken. In his beef against Kick-Ass, he's raped a girl and gunned down children.

[ugdave]

You know, in real life I remember a grandfather who kept his granddaughter locked in the basement for her entire young life and raped her constantly. I remember a story about a dude who freaking killed and ate other people. I remember another story about a dude who kidnapped a girl and kept her in a compound in his backyard WITH HIS WIFE'S KNOWLEDGE and raped her constantly. Some kids went into a school and brutally murdered innocent students and teachers alike in the state where I live. Some dudes flew PLANES into ENTIRE BUILDINGS full of innocent men, women and children.

So yeah, bad happens and it's real and it's WAY worse than what you see depicted on these pages.

Now don't get me wrong. I am not a defender of Millar carte blanche. I think he DEFINITELY uses violence to get a rise out of people. I think he pushes boundaries just to push them and sometimes I think he's way too big for his own britches.

That being said, it's kind of silly to get all offended at this like it doesn't happen in life or comics. Some CLASSIC comics have used rape as a plot device to cause offense - anyone ever read Watchmen or Identity Crisis?

So I can totally understand if you didn't know what you were in for and this isn't your bag of tea. And frankly I was like "oh shit" at a couple of things he pulled (INCLUDING the dog beheading from last issue). But sometimes I like to see crazy shit in comics and Millar will normally fit that bill.

But even all that said that was a fucked up issue. And it's just gonna get worse. BELIEVE THAT.

PS - normally I don't swear in the context of posts but with the subject matter and names and discussion so far does it even matter in this thread?

[Acronym]

Yeah I guess and thats my main crux of the problem here, that Miller is trying to get a rise and baiting a response from the reader for entertainment.

I still finish Kick Ass2 only for the love of god that he gets decimated but I don't believe that happen at all.

[Will.S]

The first Kick-Ass at least had some heart underneath all the gore, boobs, and violence.

But this second volume seems to unfortunately be going the Nemesis route with it's constant shock value. Very little of what made the first volume worth reading (despite all of it's hardcore glory) continues here besides Hit-Girl, ultimately it just reads like another Millar style sensationalistic comic that just ramps things up without having a whole lot of soul to it.

[ASR]

I don't know, I've seemed to like it so far. It's aimed at an adult reader, the R rated movie of comics, I know you guys aren't expecting an all ages read. Sure there's violence and gore, but the first volume had that too. I know you guys remember the torture scene and Big Daddy dying, those were pretty graphic too. What's the difference between red mist shooting kids and nitro blowing up stamford, CT schools buses full of kids. As for the rape scene (or lack thereof) that seems to be this volumes version of the torture scene. I don't know, if people really have a problem with the graphic nature of the book, why would you buy it?

[Milkshake Dave]

I thought this was a great issue. I wasn't expecting any of the stuff to happen that did. I can't make any excuses but I'm afraid it's the gratuity of violence and the depravity that's keeping me along for the ride. Millar has a certain way when it comes to writing people who just stepped off the set from South Park.

[Earth2Invincible]

What a dumb comic.

It's as if Millar was checking off a list of bad comics cliches.

I can't see much of this making it into the movie sequel if it ever gets made.

They will probably just kidnap Katie and have that whole "I kidnapped your girlfriend and while I could kill her now I'll be a moron and let you get to me first." stuff they have in almost every movie when this situation comes up.

[rawhidekid]

I'm having a hard time separating Movie Red Mist from Comic Red Mist. It's been a long time since I read the book. I'm thinking that Red Mist just gave up being the hero after his dad was murdered. Now it seems he lost all hope is now just trying to make Kick Ass as miserable as he is.

[TimmyG316]

I'm having a hard time separating Movie Red Mist from Comic Red Mist. It's been a long time since I read the book. I'm thinking that Red Mist just gave up being the hero after his dad was murdered. Now it seems he lost all hope is now just trying to make Kick Ass as miserable as he is.

In both the movie and the book Red Mist was always planted by the mafia to get kick ass's attention by pretending to be a hero. He didnt give being a hero up, he never was one

[shark]

I don't have a problem with the rape or the murders.

This is what villains will do out of spite for the hero if they ever find out who the hero is related to or loves. This is why secret identies are important or stuff like this happens.

The problem is that the rape (and the killing of children) was used as a shock tactic. It's a cheap way to make your villains look threatening.

[MagSeven]

The problem is that the rape (and the killing of children) was used as a shock tactic. It's a cheap way to make your villains look threatening.

It makes sense that it's a shock tactic. The Motherfucker is trying to be shocking. He's using shock tactics. Even if you consider it to be a shock tactic just on Millar's part (not his character's), Kick Ass isn't an ongoing. Millar only has so many issues to make his villains credible threats. Them committing all these over the top atrocities makes me want to see them go down even harder. Maybe if it was an ongoing we'd get a few dozen issues of The Motherfucker hacking into Kick Ass' bank account and ruining his credit score, but it's a pretty condensed story and that's what Millar is good at.

I will say this issue was over the top, but that's what Kick Ass is all about, so I sort of knew that going in. Got my money's worth.

[Celestin]

I don't understand all these complains. It's like some people didn't expect Millar to be so extreme with this sequel. And we're not even on Nemesis level of elaborate villainy.

Also, some said that rape is a cheap way to make villains look threatening and that may be true, but think about it for a minute. What do you think a sick guy like Motherfucker would really do if he found a girlfriend of his worst enemy? Only thing I'm surprised is that he didn't kill her afterwards, but it's probably because he wants Katie to hate Dave for everything that happened to her.

Anyway, the only complain I have is that superheroes are very passive right now. Can't wait for the moment when they will up their game and Hit-Girl will be back in the action. Villains needs to have their asses kicked. :wink:

[Superbeast]

So after all this... we're still meant to believe a deluded 12 year old girl who hasn't done anything in a year will be able to take down all these organised guns and goons?

Seriously, this is like Loeb's Hulk. Don't expect plot, expect antagonism. Despite it's attempt to contextualise things as "this is what would happen in the real world", we've now got a 6 foot female tank on the payroll of a teenager doing house invasions and taking down whole police squads singlehandedly.

In doing so, the entire point of this series, what would happen if people tried to become vigilante superheroes and inspired others, is being undermined by the ridiculous idea Putin would actually hire a six foot human tank of a woman as security, let alone that a punk kind would then be able to convince her to work on his payroll commiting international incidents in the suburbs of the USA all because his dad got killed. I'm sorry, shouldn't he be left in the care of his grandparents with a trust fund waiting down the line? Oh wait. That'd be too realistic and then we couldn't have an organised criminal updating his twitter without the FBI or police tracking the IP and sending in SWAT to kill them all like they did to Raoul Moat's mobile phone text messages to discern his location when they were hunting him down. You know, that real life incident? Yeah, that one. Instead we have a criminal on a crime spree updating his twitter because obviously it exists in the real world so even referencing makes this story all the more relatable to the real world, doesn't it? Well, no. Because the recent London riots show updating your social media after comitting a crime is a quick and easy way to get caught.

As it is, stupid story that somehow wants to claim it's based in a more real environment than the comics it knowingly references but then wants to include ridiculous caricatures like Mother Russia.

Sorry, can't have it both ways without it becoming conflicted and self defeating junk.

[The_Ronin]

I don't recall reading anywhere in the story a claim or disclaimer that "THIS IS A REALISTIC BOOK!"


But yeah complaining about the violence after liking the first book is kind of like liking Saw 1, but complaining about the blood in Saw 2.

[shark]

It makes sense that it's a shock tactic. The Motherfucker is trying to be shocking. He's using shock tactics. Even if you consider it to be a shock tactic just on Millar's part (not his character's), Kick Ass isn't an ongoing. Millar only has so many issues to make his villains credible threats. Them committing all these over the top atrocities makes me want to see them go down even harder. Maybe if it was an ongoing we'd get a few dozen issues of The Motherfucker hacking into Kick Ass' bank account and ruining his credit score, but it's a pretty condensed story and that's what Millar is good at.

I will say this issue was over the top, but that's what Kick Ass is all about, so I sort of knew that going in. Got my money's worth.

That's the point. It doesn't make them credible. It's a ham-fisted way to create a threat and personally I find it cheap and unoriginal, not shocking. To each their own.

[Scud]

This issue was terrible, actually all of Kick Ass 2 has been pretty bad. I'm just gonna act like the first Kick Ass book is the only one.

[Huthaifa]

You know, in real life I remember a grandfather who kept his granddaughter locked in the basement for her entire young life and raped her constantly. I remember a story about a dude who freaking killed and ate other people. I remember another story about a dude who kidnapped a girl and kept her in a compound in his backyard WITH HIS WIFE'S KNOWLEDGE and raped her constantly. Some kids went into a school and brutally murdered innocent students and teachers alike in the state where I live. Some dudes flew PLANES into ENTIRE BUILDINGS full of innocent men, women and children.

So yeah, bad happens and it's real and it's WAY worse than what you see depicted on these pages.

Now don't get me wrong. I am not a defender of Millar carte blanche. I think he DEFINITELY uses violence to get a rise out of people. I think he pushes boundaries just to push them and sometimes I think he's way too big for his own britches.

That being said, it's kind of silly to get all offended at this like it doesn't happen in life or comics. Some CLASSIC comics have used rape as a plot device to cause offense - anyone ever read Watchmen or Identity Crisis?

So I can totally understand if you didn't know what you were in for and this isn't your bag of tea. And frankly I was like "oh shit" at a couple of things he pulled (INCLUDING the dog beheading from last issue). But sometimes I like to see crazy shit in comics and Millar will normally fit that bill.

But even all that said that was a fucked up issue. And it's just gonna get worse. BELIEVE THAT.

PS - normally I don't swear in the context of posts but with the subject matter and names and discussion so far does it even matter in this thread?



Have to completely agree. This is realistic violence. People get beheaded. Children do get shot. Women get raped at an obscene rate. Millar didnt have to stretch his imagination for this one. He just had to open up the paper.

[charlesthehammer]

I don't recall reading anywhere in the story a claim or disclaimer that "THIS IS A REALISTIC BOOK!"


But yeah complaining about the violence after liking the first book is kind of like liking Saw 1, but complaining about the blood in Saw 2.

I thought that was the whole point, what if Superheroes and Villains existed in the real world.

[MagSeven]

I thought that was the whole point, what if Superheroes and Villains existed in the real world.

In the real world a villain will rape you. Murder you. Steal from you. Burn your house down. Have sex with your sister. Key your car. Kick your dog. Lift your wallet. Beat your ass on your birthday right after you do your celebratory shot at the bar. This is a SUPERvillain. They're going to strive for a combination of all of the above and perhaps a bit more. The real world is crawling with villains. Millar is writing about a SUPERVILLIAN, or rather what a youtube kid thinks one is. It is real and unreal at the same time. It is reality+! That's the point of the book! It may be too meta for some....

[charlesthehammer]

In the real world a villain will rape you. Murder you. Steal from you. Burn your house down. Have sex with your sister. Key your car. Kick your dog. Lift your wallet. Beat your ass on your birthday right after you do your celebratory shot at the bar. This is a SUPERvillain. They're going to strive for a combination of all of the above and perhaps a bit more. The real world is crawling with villains. Millar is writing about a SUPERVILLIAN, or rather what a youtube kid thinks one is. It is real and unreal at the same time. It is reality+! That's the point of the book! It may be too meta for some....
Or poorly written. Its like he has his cake and wants to eat it two. You cant have it both ways.

[Joe Acro]

I don't recall reading anywhere in the story a claim or disclaimer that "THIS IS A REALISTIC BOOK!"
The solicitation for the first issue seemed to state it would be.


The greatest super hero comic of all-time is finally here. WOLVERINE: ENEMY OF THE STATE's team of MARK MILLAR (CIVIL WAR) and JOHN ROMITA JR. (WORLD WAR HULK) reunite for the best new book of the 21st century. Have you ever wanted to be a super hero? Dreamed of donning a mask and just heading outside to some kick-ass? Well, this is the book for you--the comic that starts where other super hero books draw the line. KICK-ASS is realistic super heroes taken to the next level. Miss out and you're an idiot!

[Leethario]

i really enjoyed the first Kick-Ass, i liked Wanted and am currently loving Superior....but this issue was sh&t! Killing kids and gang rape, poor writing. i'll sell the first 4 issues and download the others so i know how this ends. Shame, millar slides further and further down in standards.

[Jer]

Kick Ass never pretended to be anything more then shock value here people

it's like getting the double chocolate cake with a rich chocolate frosting and then complaining that their is too much chocolate in the cake.

And there was plenty of story in this book.

Hit girl wanting to come back into the super hero game against her step father's wishes.

Dave's dad taking the blame for his son.

The cops wondering what they should do to the people dressing up as Super Heroes and villains.

And then there's this part about the super villains doing truly evil things just because they can. I guess you could say it was only done for shock value but in this particualar case it's used as a story telling device to show how evil Red Mist (MF if you prefer) wants to be.

So I don't think it was done just for shock value sake.

What did people want to read or think they were going to read? MF trying to take over the city ... the world? Kidnap Kattie and let Kick Ass get to her in time to save her while he never totures her at all?

A crime where the bad guy is doing something against the law but not really evil.

Know what you're ordering people before you buy.

[Drz]

A comic about heroes and villains in our world being portrayed properly is wrong!!!!! I wanted my escapism from a comic that was marketed and promoted as an comic that takes place in our world, how dare they make it so believable and shockingly evil!!!! Like our world!

[charlesthehammer]

A comic about heroes and villains in our world being portrayed properly is wrong!!!!! I wanted my escapism from a comic that was marketed and promoted as an comic that takes place in our world, how dare they make it so believable and shockingly evil!!!! Like our world!

its not all that believable actually.

[charlesthehammer]

Kick Ass never pretended to be anything more then shock value here people

it's like getting the double chocolate cake with a rich chocolate frosting and then complaining that their is too much chocolate in the cake.

And there was plenty of story in this book.

Hit girl wanting to come back into the super hero game against her step father's wishes.

Dave's dad taking the blame for his son.

The cops wondering what they should do to the people dressing up as Super Heroes and villains.

And then there's this part about the super villains doing truly evil things just because they can. I guess you could say it was only done for shock value but in this particualar case it's used as a story telling device to show how evil Red Mist (MF if you prefer) wants to be.

So I don't think it was done just for shock value sake.

What did people want to read or think they were going to read? MF trying to take over the city ... the world? Kidnap Kattie and let Kick Ass get to her in time to save her while he never totures her at all?

A crime where the bad guy is doing something against the law but not really evil.

Know what you're ordering people before you buy.
I expected a more realistic comic as that was how it was marketed, I am disappointed so far.

[Celestin]

I expected a more realistic comic as that was how it was marketed, I am disappointed so far.

Why are you even reading the sequel then? It was obvious that it will not be "realistic" when Millar introduced the ten years old girl who was killing the bad guys using a sword.

Actually, I think that everything done by MF is perfectly believable for a psycho like him. Unrealistic is his ability to get away with it, especially after killing children and police officers in a public place. In the real world he would be found and killed (because, he didn't surrender of course) by the SWAT team in matter of hours.

[Jer]

its not all that believable actually.

Oh no ... a sequel to a comic that featured a 11 year old girl that sliced through adults with ease not being believable a second time. We should call the cops on Marvel and Mark Millar for lying to their general public.

We should also get some villains in this story doing some cliche villain stuff instead of really evil real world sick stuff.

[charlesthehammer]

Oh no ... a sequel to a comic that featured a 11 year old girl that sliced through adults with ease not being believable a second time. We should call the cops on Marvel and Mark Millar for lying to their general public.

We should also get some villains in this story doing some cliche villain stuff instead of really evil real world sick stuff.

So I am to blame as they lied? Also this is cliched as all hell.

[Trevor M.]

This issue was sick and I loved it (well some parts were a little intense) but still people come on. I mean when you first read Kick Ass a fifteen year old was being tortured by jumper cables attached to his family jewels of course Millar was going to up the ante this is gonna get more and more brutal as the series goes on and i'm liking that.

[Jer]

So I am to blame as they lied? Also this is cliched as all hell.

Okay I apologize if I was a bit insensitive.

Here's the thing. I think they only mean realistic in terms of people don't actually have super powers and they kept to that until Hit girl came into the picture then all that realistic stuff went out the window.


Millar is well known for his shock value.

Spoiler Alert for anyone that hasn't read Wanted!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GbF8rms2-co/TR6TFfb5iVI/AAAAAAAAAE8/JBXl0Mfxq3g/s1600/Wanted+Last+Page.jpg


Can you read that text box? In the link? It's the last page of Wanted.
which is completely done for shock value.

[samson3191]

A comic about heroes and villains in our world being portrayed properly is wrong!!!!! I wanted my escapism from a comic that was marketed and promoted as an comic that takes place in our world, how dare they make it so believable and shockingly evil!!!! Like our world!

I don't think the issue with myself, and other people who weren't a fan of the last issue, is because we want to escape or anything like that. It's not that I can't "handle" it or anything. I'm perfectly fine with reading these things, but it really just seems to be Millar's niche; ie, push the limits as far as they go and call it a day.

I will say that you guys defending it do bring up good points, and to a certain extent I think I've changed my mind on the issue. I can see the realism behind a truly evil villain and how Millar doesn't shy away from a psycopath's persona. It makes sense. I can't argue that, and in that sense I can see the comic in a different light now. But at the end of the day, I guess I'm left wanting more than seeing how nasty things can get.

I'm still going to stick around for the rest of the story, but I hope it goes a different direction than just seeing what other evil acts Red Mist is capable of.

[Jer]

I don't think the issue with myself, and other people who weren't a fan of the last issue, is because we want to escape or anything like that. It's not that I can't "handle" it or anything. I'm perfectly fine with reading these things, but it really just seems to be Millar's niche; ie, push the limits as far as they go and call it a day.

I will say that you guys defending it do bring up good points, and to a certain extent I think I've changed my mind on the issue. I can see the realism behind a truly evil villain and how Millar doesn't shy away from a psycopath's persona. It makes sense. I can't argue that, and in that sense I can see the comic in a different light now. But at the end of the day, I guess I'm left wanting more than seeing how nasty things can get.

I'm still going to stick around for the rest of the story, but I hope it goes a different direction than just seeing what other evil acts Red Mist is capable of.

I can see that. It's like a guilty pleasure you know that soda is full of empty calories and all but you just can't help yourself sometimes.

[Vincentomoh]

So what is Carl (Katie's boyfriend in the comic) going to do?

[Walter West]

I still haven't watched the movie, but I read the first series and found it weird how a young girl was doing the stuff that Hit Girl was doing. Still, the notion of a kid going out and doing this kind of thing seemed original to me.

I started reading this, but I don't read comics to see kids killed or women raped. It may be shock value or whatever, but it just doesn't appeal to me. It's true that there are worse examples in the real world, but I don't read about those for entertainment either.

I guess that's the key. This particular story with its facets doesn't appeal to me and it sure doesn't entertain me. I guess I'm too squeamish where women and kids are concerned, and just reading this goes against too much that I live by.

[StoneGold]

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In other words, suck it up.

[turtlefood]

The second volume started off too slow again to ramp up this fast. We get Kick Ass's crew making sure drunk girls get home safely and then we have broad daylight killing of kids/cops/and gang rape. This book isn't for me. Shock value or not, what is good about this comic? The first series was more interesting because it was new. Kick Ass was supposed to be a more realistic version of a regular hero but then they introduced Hit Girl three or so issues into it and it became an over the top crazy book. Now we get series 2 and it's Kick Ass and his friends chilling writing in their myspace accounts about how awesome it is to do everyday local superhero stuff....and then a few issues in after complete boredom, you get villains going on a killing spree of children and cops then a little gang rape...then completely disappearing. This mix of realism and over the top fantasy just does not work. Reading the cops say they got away because once they take off their costumes they blend in? What is this, Clark Kent's glasses disguise? How does Mother Russia "blend in" without a costume? HER COSTUME ARE GLOVES. GLOVES.

Kick Ass isn't my kind of book.