Someone explain why the pilot doesn't look really cool?

[Hippolytus]

Because it does...I love this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1cDmZeHIY4

[brettc1]

The answer is really in the music.

She doesn't stop a war with love.

She does get a liar to tell the truth - by torturing him.

And after she stops a bullet cold, she does not make the guard fold. He is in fact incapable of folding once that pipe impales him in the throat, pinning him to the door and killing him outright.

As a montage of action shots it looks pretty good. But then so do a lot of movies that when you actually sit down and watch them for 2 hours dont live up to expectations.

[Red Mask]

The donning of the costume looks cliche there. Plus all that fighting becomes a big turn off. Her lariat moves remind me of a character in Mortal Kombat. :evilangry:

[MDV]

It couldn't be the massive levels of cheese, the 99 cent plastic costume, the godawful special effects, extreme comic book lighting on par with Batman & Robin, an actress with a permanent scowl on her face and who took at most two weeks of fight choreography training.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I have to confess I have restrained myself from watching the pilot over and over again, mostly because once I have seen it, that is it.

No more live action Wonder Woman for the next 30 years.

[zryson]

the pilot tanked for a variety of reasons; the casting -- adrianne was no lynda carter. carter defined wonder woman. she made the leap from the comic page to the screen. you cannot improve on that. secondly, the script was awful. elizabeth hurley as the villain? what was so menacing about her? her gown? her glare? she was added purely because of name and she added pretty much nothing to the pilot. the over the top fight with the good squad didnt help either. she cant get in, the doors are locked. whoops, now she's in... it was silly.

then there was the updated take on wonder woman and that horrible costume. you would have thought dc/warner would have learned that when it comes to updated versions they mostly fail. but nope, they didnt. so they went ahead with the new updated costume. it looked horrible in the comics and it looked really horrible on screen. and poor adrianne. pretty girl in real life but in the costume she looked awful. she was supposed to be an amazon? really? imagine how bad the other amazons must be on paradise island if this is the best they can offer.

and what was with the multiple identities? and the torture? this wasnt wonder woman. it was a crud-poorly made (on the cheap side) production with wonder woman pretty much in name only. and it didnt get onto screens because it was garbage. and its shame. because the fans who have supported wonder woman all these many years deserved better but diana/wonder woman deserved better.

[RealWonderman]

I like the pilot. Some tweaking and it could have been awesome! Adrienne looked very much the part, and NOTHING can compare to her bullets and bracelets!
And though I LIKED the pilot, I LOVE this opening sequence!!
(Could have used one Diana Prince shot though!)

[jmucchiello]

the godawful special effects, extreme comic book lighting on par with Batman & Robin
You are aware that the leaked video did not go through post production so the special effects aren't complete in some of the scenes, right? (Can't argue against your other points, though.)

[AntStorm]

personally i loved it , and im kinda over the arguments about it not being the same show , ITS NOT MEANT TO BE , people if you want a version like Lynda Carter's Version then go and pick a season , put the dvd in the player and watch it, cause a version like Lynda's in 2011 is gonna be viewed as nothing but comedy.
ive been a fan of 30 plus years and i really loved this pilot so she was violent , woop dee doo ( i could give examples on why Amazons are not hippie tree huggin sappho's, but i cant be bothered ) it wouldnt have had the potential to bring in fresh blood to the wonder woman fan base
times change , situations change, what was cutting edge in the 70's is considered cheesy camp now , im tired of floggin a dead horse with wonder woman , forums and fighting with radical feminist fans who seem to be fixated of a bloody choker , her fans never want her to change , ive loved all of Diana's changes over the years bring on more , it makes it exciting

and to the OP of this thread

I FREEEKIN LOVED THE PILOT:biggrin:

[Ebon Phantom]

That look hilarious, but what was with all the common grunts. What, no costumed opponents?

[captainwonder]

personally i loved it , and im kinda over the arguments about it not being the same show , ITS NOT MEANT TO BE , people if you want a version like Lynda Carter's Version then go and pick a season , put the dvd in the player and watch it, cause a version like Lynda's in 2011 is gonna be viewed as nothing but comedy.
ive been a fan of 30 plus years and i really loved this pilot so she was violent , woop dee doo ( i could give examples on why Amazons are not hippie tree huggin sappho's, but i cant be bothered ) it wouldnt have had the potential to bring in fresh blood to the wonder woman fan base
times change , situations change, what was cutting edge in the 70's is considered cheesy camp now , im tired of floggin a dead horse with wonder woman , forums and fighting with radical feminist fans who seem to be fixated of a bloody choker , her fans never want her to change , ive loved all of Diana's changes over the years bring on more , it makes it exciting

and to the OP of this thread

I FREEEKIN LOVED THE PILOT:biggrin:

I agree not to mention Pilots rarely make it as they were originally to the screen and even if they do they change alot before you get what the show will be like..

I haven't loved all the changes there are a few I'd leave out but I agree with you on the pilot.. It was great! So tired of the same posters claiming it was a failure? how the network passed and that's it. End of story.

Of course some on here will claim you not a real fan if you like the pilot or you don't understand Wonder Woman if you liked this.... Funny how they tell fans of 30 plus years these kinds of things.. I'd never say that about them for not liking it.

[batGRRRl4ever]

The costume was too cheesy, WW was too pissy and aggressive, and I REALLY did not like her using her lasso like a hangman's noose instead of like lassoing a steer around the midsection instead, that in particular was just too violent for me.

With the bits that were cool there were far more scenes that were wrong for various reasons, this pilot was simply not meant to be and I can easily see why it did not get greenlighted.

I think that either Batgirl or Batwoman have a greater chance someday of getting a cartoon or tv show before Diana, what with all the popularity the Bat-franchise brings to the table. After all WW was just downgraded on the DC Comic Forums and placed under the Justice League forum, while Batman, Superman, & Green Lantern are the only singular characters to have their own family forums.

[Alan2099]

I think it was an interesting take on the character and could have worked with a tad more tweaking, but the whole thing felt like it was trying to hard to ignore any of the sillier aspects that go along with superheroes instead of accepting them as part of the total package.

[token_member]

Of course some on here will claim you not a real fan if you like the pilot or you don't understand Wonder Woman if you liked this.... Funny how they tell fans of 30 plus years these kinds of things.. I'd never say that about them for not liking it.

The Wonder Woman in that pilot was a torturous, scowl faced, cold, merciless killer. That is the anti-thesis of who Wonder Woman is, what she represents and what she was created to be. Moreover, her depiction in that pilot is grossly inconsistent with almost 70 years of her portrayals. Wonder Woman would not be Wonder Woman if her core traits and ideals were drastically changed. END OF STORY. One would think that fans of 30 plus years would get that.

[Giskard]

the pilot tanked for a variety of reasons; the casting -- adrianne was no lynda carter. carter defined wonder woman. she made the leap from the comic page to the screen. you cannot improve on that. secondly, the script was awful. elizabeth hurley as the villain? what was so menacing about her? her gown? her glare? she was added purely because of name and she added pretty much nothing to the pilot. the over the top fight with the good squad didnt help either. she cant get in, the doors are locked. whoops, now she's in... it was silly.

then there was the updated take on wonder woman and that horrible costume. you would have thought dc/warner would have learned that when it comes to updated versions they mostly fail. but nope, they didnt. so they went ahead with the new updated costume. it looked horrible in the comics and it looked really horrible on screen. and poor adrianne. pretty girl in real life but in the costume she looked awful. she was supposed to be an amazon? really? imagine how bad the other amazons must be on paradise island if this is the best they can offer.

and what was with the multiple identities? and the torture? this wasnt wonder woman. it was a crud-poorly made (on the cheap side) production with wonder woman pretty much in name only. and it didnt get onto screens because it was garbage. and its shame. because the fans who have supported wonder woman all these many years deserved better but diana/wonder woman deserved better.

Couldn't agree more. Are there two pilots going around? Because the one I saw bears no resemblance to the one some people here are praising.

[Scud]

the pilot tanked for a variety of reasons; the casting -- adrianne was no lynda carter. carter defined wonder woman. she made the leap from the comic page to the screen. you cannot improve on that. secondly, the script was awful.

I agree about the script being awful but I think Adrianna is a good pick for Wonder Woman.

[brettc1]

I agree about the script being awful but I think Adrianna is a good pick for Wonder Woman.

Have to say she grew on me. She showed some real acting chops, in my opinion. I wish they had given her better material to work with. :frown:

[aegisbearer]

AntStorm, no one should tell you you're not a fan of Wonder Woman if you like the pilot. You're entitled to like what you like. But, change for the sake of change isn't going to bring in the audience. I think William Marston would be quite upset that the character he developed became a woman who killed and tortured others. Plain and simple. Do people really want to see a Wonder Woman who does that? Would they want a Superman who killed or tortured? I doubt it. It goes against his "Truth, Justice, and the American way" image.

It's not that I would want the Lynda Carter version back, and I LOVED that version even with its campy moments. It's that I wanted a version I could fall in love with again. The character I saw on the screen was proud to be vengeful. This character isn't about vengeance. Never has. That's not a change I can watch. I don't see how a character's validity increases the moment she tortures or kills someone. Making her more 'badass' suddenly increases her appeal? How sad for us, then, as fans that we would abandon her roots (which I am sure with great writing could shine again) and choose the violence and Ares-like rage that Marston's Amazons shunned. They followed Aphrodite's way early on, Gaea's way later -- two goddesses not known for their martial desires (although, yes, Aphrodite had an affair with Ares in Greek mythology), but you know what I mean.

Change for change's sake doesn't work. That's what many fans see, and that's why it's upsetting. And, with ALLLLLL the press about her costume changing, look where we are now: a much similar version to her original costume with smaller changes.

I respect your opinions, AntStorm, and you should continue to profess your support for what you like. But, I've been a fan of WW for over 30 years, too, and I didn't like the pilot because I feel that wasn't what a Wonder Woman does.


personally i loved it , and im kinda over the arguments about it not being the same show , ITS NOT MEANT TO BE , people if you want a version like Lynda Carter's Version then go and pick a season , put the dvd in the player and watch it, cause a version like Lynda's in 2011 is gonna be viewed as nothing but comedy.
ive been a fan of 30 plus years and i really loved this pilot so she was violent , woop dee doo ( i could give examples on why Amazons are not hippie tree huggin sappho's, but i cant be bothered ) it wouldnt have had the potential to bring in fresh blood to the wonder woman fan base
times change , situations change, what was cutting edge in the 70's is considered cheesy camp now , im tired of floggin a dead horse with wonder woman , forums and fighting with radical feminist fans who seem to be fixated of a bloody choker , her fans never want her to change , ive loved all of Diana's changes over the years bring on more , it makes it exciting

and to the OP of this thread

I FREEEKIN LOVED THE PILOT:biggrin:

[brettc1]

I pretty much agree with Aegis.

In terms of the pilot, I think that the writers went with an easy Hollywood formula for action where savagery is strength and compassion is a mournful glance at a victim as the necessary motivation for going out and blowing somebody's head off.

The truth is, you can show strength and honor and compassion all at the same time. And for proof, I call upon the man whose name is synonymous in Hollywood for strong, rugged characters - Mr Clint Eastwood!

Take it away, Josey Wales...

http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=22367

Sure, there are plenty of bloody fights throughout the movie, but Eastwood takes the time to show us that even though Wales is a man who can kill proficiently, its not his preferred option by the end of the movie.

Looking back at the pilot, the stand out deal breaker for me was without doubt the security guard getting the pipe through his throat at Diana's hand. Made her look bad ass as hell, granted, but not very heroic.

Maybe a way to go that models Wales example would have been to have Diana deflect the bullets, get up close to the guard, and then have one of the other hopped up muscle boys throw the pipe at her from behind. Diana dodges to one side out of the way, but also catches the pipe in mid air inches from the guards face. She throws it back, hitting the man in the leg and taking him down, then turns around to find the guard has the drop on her.

What will he do? He looks terrified at her, hand on the trigger, full of adrenalin from almost having being killed. And Diana, she just stares him down. He could shoot her, but she saved his life. We get a small but powerful shot of his job warring with his conscience, while Diana eyeballs him, and then he lowers the gun and steps aside to let her pass. On the way past she puts a hand on his shoulder and tells him "You should leave now."

Strength, courage, compassion, heroism. It's really not that hard.

[token_member]

Maybe a way to go that models Wales example would have been to have Diana deflect the bullets, get up close to the guard, and then have one of the other hopped up muscle boys throw the pipe at her from behind. Diana dodges to one side out of the way, but also catches the pipe in mid air inches from the guards face. She throws it back, hitting the man in the leg and taking him down, then turns around to find the guard has the drop on her.

What will he do? He looks terrified at her, hand on the trigger, full of adrenalin from almost having being killed. And Diana, she just stares him down. He could shoot her, but she saved his life. We get a small but powerful shot of his job warring with his conscience, while Diana eyeballs him, and then he lowers the gun and steps aside to let her pass. On the way past she puts a hand on his shoulder and tells him "You should leave now."

Strength, courage, compassion, heroism. It's really not that hard.

Brett, I LOVE how you write Wonder Woman! :biggrin:

[jmucchiello]

Looking back at the pilot, the stand out deal breaker for me was without doubt the security guard getting the pipe through his throat at Diana's hand. Made her look bad ass as hell, granted, but not very heroic.
I have a suspicion that this "out of character" attitude in the pilot is on purpose. I suspect that this Wonder Woman first needed to learn compassion before she could teach it. It is entirely possible I'm wrong. The problem is we only have the pilot to judge it on. But I prefer to think that her aggressiveness, commented on several times by her friends, was part of her story arc that was never realized. If she was just being shown as badass because that's what they wanted her to be, they would not have the other characters expressing concern for her aggression. Is there really anything wrong with showing how she became compassionate? Rather than having her start there?

At least with her starting out different, the character can change over time. A show where the character starts out flawless is probably pretty boring to write. She can't grow if she is flawless. This is probably also the problem people have with writing the comic. If there is nowhere for her to grow, you have to make the stories about other people around her. Or you write flat adventure only stories with no depth of character.

[RealWonderman]

I have a suspicion that this "out of character" attitude in the pilot is on purpose. I suspect that this Wonder Woman first needed to learn compassion before she could teach it. It is entirely possible I'm wrong. The problem is we only have the pilot to judge it on. But I prefer to think that her aggressiveness, commented on several times by her friends, was part of her story arc that was never realized. If she was just being shown as badass because that's what they wanted her to be, they would not have the other characters expressing concern for her aggression. Is there really anything wrong with showing how she became compassionate? Rather than having her start there?

At least with her starting out different, the character can change over time. A show where the character starts out flawless is probably pretty boring to write. She can't grow if she is flawless. This is probably also the problem people have with writing the comic. If there is nowhere for her to grow, you have to make the stories about other people around her. Or you write flat adventure only stories with no depth of character.

I suspected the same all along, about the characterization.

And regardless of the fate of the pilot I'm forever grateful for the bullets and bracelets scene. I get to keep that visual.

[token_member]

Is there really anything wrong with showing how she became compassionate? Rather than having her start there?

At least with her starting out different, the character can change over time. A show where the character starts out flawless is probably pretty boring to write. She can't grow if she is flawless. This is probably also the problem people have with writing the comic. If there is nowhere for her to grow, you have to make the stories about other people around her. Or you write flat adventure only stories with no depth of character.

Diana was created to be an atypical hero: one not founded on violence and aggression but peace, love and mercy. There is nothing tragically or fatally flawed about her genesis and for me, that doesn't make her any less interesting than say, Batman. I just don't understand why some think that a character can't be compelling if he/she isn't "damaged."

Personally, I find it more compelling for a "flawless" character to come into a severely flawed world and have to reconcile his/her place in it. "Can Wonder Woman overcome the rampant, wanton violence and aggression of Patriarch's World with peace and love or will she succumb to its brutality?" Coming from a peaceful utopia, Diana would have her ideals tested at every corner. There are a multitude of interesting ways she might react to such a challenge.

I'm not saying that Wonder Woman must be perfect in the absolute sense of the word, but she shouldn't be Batman level flawed or portray any sociopathic tendencies. Perhaps, at times, Wonder Woman is prone to arrogance in her value system or maybe she's too overconfident and overzealous and doesn't know when to quit. For me, those are more "acceptable" flaws for a character like Wonder Woman. She errs out of righteousness, not corruption.

[brettc1]

Brett, I LOVE how you write Wonder Woman! :biggrin:

Thanks dude. I just my first ever official rejection letter from a publishing house - not unexpected and all steps on the road, but words like yours above to make me feel heartened :smile:

[BnL]

I have a suspicion that this "out of character" attitude in the pilot is on purpose. I suspect that this Wonder Woman first needed to learn compassion before she could teach it. It is entirely possible I'm wrong. The problem is we only have the pilot to judge it on. But I prefer to think that her aggressiveness, commented on several times by her friends, was part of her story arc that was never realized. If she was just being shown as badass because that's what they wanted her to be, they would not have the other characters expressing concern for her aggression. Is there really anything wrong with showing how she became compassionate? Rather than having her start there?

At least with her starting out different, the character can change over time. A show where the character starts out flawless is probably pretty boring to write. She can't grow if she is flawless. This is probably also the problem people have with writing the comic. If there is nowhere for her to grow, you have to make the stories about other people around her. Or you write flat adventure only stories with no depth of character.

Wonder Woman is just not a character that has deep character flaws. There's plenty of drama to wring from the concept, without turning Diana into an angry, ultra-violent "bad ass." But even if she were to be written as such a flawed character, I'm uncomfortable with the idea that murder and torture (not to mention all the other serious offenses she committed in the pilot) are a part of her "learning curve" to become a better person. Those are crimes that don't wash clean very easily, and that's not the sort of burden a character like Wonder Woman should have to shoulder.

Besides, isn't that pretty much the same character arc Xena went through?

[token_member]

Thanks dude. I just my first ever official rejection letter from a publishing house - not unexpected and all steps on the road, but words like yours above to make me feel heartened :smile:

I PM'd you!


Besides, isn't that pretty much the same character arc Xena went through?

YEP, SURE IS!

[Ebon Phantom]

Looking back at the pilot, the stand out deal breaker for me was without doubt the security guard getting the pipe through his throat at Diana's hand. Made her look bad ass as hell, granted, but not very heroic.

Maybe a way to go that models Wales example would have been to have Diana deflect the bullets, get up close to the guard, and then have one of the other hopped up muscle boys throw the pipe at her from behind. Diana dodges to one side out of the way, but also catches the pipe in mid air inches from the guards face. She throws it back, hitting the man in the leg and taking him down, then turns around to find the guard has the drop on her.

What will he do? He looks terrified at her, hand on the trigger, full of adrenalin from almost having being killed. And Diana, she just stares him down. He could shoot her, but she saved his life. We get a small but powerful shot of his job warring with his conscience, while Diana eyeballs him, and then he lowers the gun and steps aside to let her pass. On the way past she puts a hand on his shoulder and tells him "You should leave now."

Strength, courage, compassion, heroism. It's really not that hard. That actually sounds like a pretty awesome scene. Definitely should use that sort of characterization for Wonder Woman. Sort of like how I always imagined her as being a cross between Lara Croft and Indiana Jones, san using guns. Or as mentioned, Xena. It really seem like it shouldn't be that hard to make her be badass and heroic at the same time.

[Wonder39]

.....the fight scenes looked decent enough, BUT there was all that horrible plot stuff that would have really sunk it for me.....(corporations, multiple multiple identites, etc)

I will say the costume looked better that I thought (still stuff I hated) and the B&B stuff looked cool..... ultra violent Wondy?...not so much. I mean, she should be able to take down the baddies like no one can, but that seemed like a whole lot of violence for a 2 hour pilot..... also, Golden Lasso as a whip/noose? No. Never. Horrible. never.

Matt

[brettc1]

That actually sounds like a pretty awesome scene. Definitely should use that sort of characterization for Wonder Woman. Sort of like how I always imagined her as being a cross between Lara Croft and Indiana Jones, san using guns. Or as mentioned, Xena. It really seem like it shouldn't be that hard to make her be badass and heroic at the same time.

Heh - well that's two thumbs up. Give me five years and a shot at a live action series and you can definitely expect to see this sort of scene in there :wink:

[Lafanboy]

Yes, the pilot was flawed. But since it wasn't picked up we'll never know what could have been. Quite often, series premieres are vastly different from the pilot, from script overhauls to casting changes.

One thing everyone seems to agree with is the bullets & bracelets scene was awesome!

[Tiberious]

Lynda Carter killed in her pilot too. She just used a plane instead of a pipe but no one ever talks about that...

[jmucchiello]

Diana was created to be an atypical hero: one not founded on violence and aggression but peace, love and mercy. There is nothing tragically or fatally flawed about her genesis and for me, that doesn't make her any less interesting than say, Batman. I just don't understand why some think that a character can't be compelling if he/she isn't "damaged."

Personally, I find it more compelling for a "flawless" character to come into a severely flawed world and have to reconcile his/her place in it. "Can Wonder Woman overcome the rampant, wanton violence and aggression of Patriarch's World with peace and love or will she succumb to its brutality?" Coming from a peaceful utopia, Diana would have her ideals tested at every corner. There are a multitude of interesting ways she might react to such a challenge.
The problem with this is it just doesn't resonate with an audience very well. We don't come from a utopian society and short of John Lennon have a hard time imagining such a thing. How many times can you have a story where she's saying "That doesn't happen in Themyscira" and shaking her head in pity/disgust? All the drama for such a character takes place in her head. It might be a good character for a book but it isn't a good movie/tv character. Movie and TV are about dialog and characters who have to deal with their "ideals" sound preachy when they have to convey their thoughts verbally.

That is why the first thing a playwriter does when they encounter a character like Diana is add flaws. Because that's what they know works best on screen. You may not like it because it changes the character but it's either that or the character sounds like a cartoon hero.

[brettc1]

Lynda Carter killed in her pilot too. She just used a plane instead of a pipe but no one ever talks about that...

Actually, we never saw any of the sailors on the submarine killed. We do know that she rescued the pilot [of the plane :tongue:].

[captainwonder]

Yes, the pilot was flawed. But since it wasn't picked up we'll never know what could have been. Quite often, series premieres are vastly different from the pilot, from script overhauls to casting changes.

One thing everyone seems to agree with is the bullets & bracelets scene was awesome!

That's what I've been trying to say but some won't have it. Your wrong unless you totally hated this and wanted it to never see the light of day. How Sad. It's certain if this were to be picked up they would have made some changes and I bet the pipe in the throat would have been one of them. I can't help but wonder what might have been. Perfect no but fixable I think so.

[brettc1]

That's what I've been trying to say but some won't have it. Your wrong unless you totally hated this and wanted it to never see the light of day. How Sad. It's certain if this were to be picked up they would have made some changes and I bet the pipe in the throat would have been one of them. I can't help but wonder what might have been. Perfect no but fixable I think so.

I think I have said on other threads, and maybe even this one, that there were elements of the pilot that worked very well. Personally I loved the way she fought with the lasso, though I know others here didn't. But really, how else WOULD you use it in a melee? Swinging it around your hear like a rodeo stunt worked well enough in the 70's but in a full on fist fight I think what they didn in this show was much more dynamic and realistic.

And to be honest, and I KNOW I've said this, I really liked Diana's outburt in the board meeting about the doll.

The problem for me is that while there are some good elements, it does not [for me] come together as a whole. It's like a recipe that has a whole lot of stuff that is great individually but mixed together doesn't work out as you would hope. Adrienne is a gifted actress but I dont think they gave her a good character to work with in terms of this being a Wonder Woman show. As so often has been said, Wonder Woman is more that just the powers and the costume.

[brettc1]

The problem with this is it just doesn't resonate with an audience very well. We don't come from a utopian society and short of John Lennon have a hard time imagining such a thing. How many times can you have a story where she's saying "That doesn't happen in Themyscira" and shaking her head in pity/disgust? All the drama for such a character takes place in her head. It might be a good character for a book but it isn't a good movie/tv character. Movie and TV are about dialog and characters who have to deal with their "ideals" sound preachy when they have to convey their thoughts verbally.

That is why the first thing a playwriter does when they encounter a character like Diana is add flaws. Because that's what they know works best on screen. You may not like it because it changes the character but it's either that or the character sounds like a cartoon hero.

If you look at the new Captain America movie, there are a lot of elements which play very strongly on the theme is compassion being an essential quality in a hero. And there is also a lot of but kicking action.

There were no flaws added in Captain America. None were needed. He is awkward in some situations [with the girls] but that was totally believable based on what he was coming from. I never got the feeling it was added on. And honestly I recall seeing the same sort of thing in the comic from time to time.

I would say that a clever writer would not need to add flaws because its perfectly possible to use what is already there to make the character interesting. Her feelings about Steve, but also her feeling of responsibility to use her powers to help people, are a good example. You can get inside Diana's head and see the world as it is for her, but then write from her perspective. What I sensed in the pilot was folks were writing more like "If I had these powers and this was my mission this is how I would act." But its not necessarily how the character of Wonder Woman would act.