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Daggdag
08-25-2011, 04:36 PM
As most of you know, Bane is the villain in the third and final Chris Nolan Batman movie.

I want to know what you knows would have done.

I personally would have used one that has never been done in a movie before.

I would have stuck with the psycological aspect that the movies have had with scarecrow, and joker.

I would have used Scarface.

Fans of the comics and the animated series will know that scarface is the split personality of a ventrilpquist that comes out in the form of his puppet. The puppet, called "Scarface" because of the scar on his cheek, has a completely seperate personality and the ventriloquist has no control over what Scarface does or says.

I think it would be interesting to see this type of character acted out on screen.

lululpatchoo
08-25-2011, 04:38 PM
Catwoman and maybe Penguin.

Guglio08
08-25-2011, 04:56 PM
Black Mask, who would own a rival company, to be both a Batman and Bruce Wayne villain.

Ace Grayson
08-25-2011, 05:09 PM
For The Dark Knight Rises, I would have gone with Catwoman and Bane also, since they reflect the trilogy's theme perfectly.

Jabare
08-25-2011, 06:04 PM
Bane or Black Mask and than throw Talia Al Ghul in.


I wouldn't have used Catwoman though

kungnima
08-25-2011, 06:18 PM
Riddler or mad hatter

ticklefist
08-25-2011, 06:28 PM
Black Mask. With Catwoman in the mix and Nolan borrowing from existing Bat stories, it just sounded like movie gold. Eating eyeballs on the big screen!

MrHalfawake
08-25-2011, 06:38 PM
Clay Face

we alrady went as far as we can go "REALISTICALLY"

let's shake things up by ending on a full on balls to the wall crazy ass meta powerhouse.

Start things small like CF just changes shape to get in places and hide and Bats has to find him somehow

then ramp shit up to a giant climax where all hell breaks loose

E. Wilson
08-25-2011, 07:16 PM
Killer Moth.

...what?

PandaParker
08-25-2011, 07:48 PM
while I would've loved to see the Riddler since he's my favorite villain, i think the way to go would have been Hugo Strange using the "Prey" story line. A man obsessed with Batman leads the efforts to have him hunted down, putting Gordon in charge of the operation, which allows for good character development for both Batman and Gordon. maybe throw in Bane as some muscle for Batman to fight.

Munkiman
08-25-2011, 07:51 PM
Ventriloquist? Really? Lame. I'm sorry, but the theater would burst out laughing when they saw that the big final villain was a freaking puppet. It has that "psychological" element, but it also lacks gravitas.

I would keep Bane. He's one of my favorite villains and I'm excited to see what Nolan does with him. And Catwoman is good, too. Both of them and Talia seems like a little much, though.

Riddler or Hugo Strange would have been interesting as well.

Keehar
08-25-2011, 09:13 PM
I'd have had The Penguin in there taking over the void the mob left. Penguin would be part of the vacuum the Joker has created for more 'freak' criminals like him.

Algus
08-25-2011, 09:14 PM
I would have liked a legitimate attempt at Mr. Freeze.

Hollywood still must atone for Ahnuld.

darkseidpwns
08-25-2011, 10:25 PM
As most of you know, Bane is the villain in the third and final Chris Nolan Batman movie.

I want to know what you knows would have done.

I personally would have used one that has never been done in a movie before.

I would have stuck with the psycological aspect that the movies have had with scarecrow, and joker.

I would have used Scarface.

Fans of the comics and the animated series will know that scarface is the split personality of a ventrilpquist that comes out in the form of his puppet. The puppet, called "Scarface" because of the scar on his cheek, has a completely seperate personality and the ventriloquist has no control over what Scarface does or says.

I think it would be interesting to see this type of character acted out on screen.

Bane has'nt been done before,and i would have used Ivy if not for Nolans realism.

batnbreakfast
08-25-2011, 11:57 PM
Black Mask, who would own a rival company, to be both a Batman and Bruce Wayne villain.

I would even have Rutger Hauer brought back as BM. He couldn't be named Roman Sionis then but still become Black Mask.

Other than that: Hush!

Bane and Catwoman are no favorites in the comics but it will definitely be worth seeing what Nolan does with them.

Agent_Dark
08-26-2011, 12:41 AM
Deadshot

10char

prescribeddrone
08-26-2011, 01:35 AM
Hugo Strange, the Mad Hatter and Bane.

Blue_Beetle
08-26-2011, 01:54 AM
I think Bane has the potential to be a huge threat. He's one of Bruce's biggest threats as it is (if you like Knightfall or not, that's how it is :biggrin:) and someone like Penguin or Mad Hatter wouldn't be as scary.

Blue_Beetle
08-26-2011, 01:55 AM
Hugo Strange, the Mad Hatter and Bane.

This is a guy I was thinking of. He could be creepy in a movie. Imagine someone like Daniel Day-Lewis playing him.

mosdef
08-26-2011, 03:44 AM
Alberto Falcone is now head of the Falcone's crime family and hires Deadshot to go after Batman for revenge of bringing down his father.

Blue_Beetle
08-26-2011, 03:57 AM
Alot of these guys don't seem epic enough, and I wouldn't wanna go back with the Mob. A terrorist idea for the climactic third film seems good to me.

Scud
08-26-2011, 04:56 AM
Hugo Strange, just imagine it him running around dressed as Batman furthering the notion that Batman is a killer. Then he reveals to the world who Batman really is and towards the end of the movie Bruce gets killed. Its a downer but I think that would be a perfect ending. Evil wins in the end.

batnbreakfast
08-26-2011, 05:04 AM
Hugo Strange, just imagine it him running around dressed as Batman furthering the notion that Batman is a killer. Then he reveals to the world who Batman really is and towards the end of the movie Bruce gets killed. Its a downer but I think that would be a perfect ending. Evil wins in the end.

... and of course Hugo would get to spend some quality time with a plastic doll...

Muldwych
08-26-2011, 06:24 AM
Personally I would have loved to have seen a darker Riddler, one for my favourite villains of all time and could be better than Joker given the right treatment.

ngroove
08-26-2011, 06:53 AM
Ventriloquist? Really? Lame. I'm sorry, but the theater would burst out laughing when they saw that the big final villain was a freaking puppet. It has that "psychological" element, but it also lacks gravitas.


Everyone has their opinions. If Killer Moth, Killer Moth. If Ventriloquist, Ventriloquist.

Me, Riddler and Penguin.

Lorec
08-26-2011, 07:05 AM
Personally I would have loved to have seen a darker Riddler, one for my favourite villains of all time and could be better than Joker given the right treatment.

This is exactly what some of my co-workers and I were thinking about before the details came out. A darker Riddler would have been great. I don't know who the other villain would have been though, possibly Bane anyway.

merrick97
08-26-2011, 07:12 AM
Black Mask, who would own a rival company, to be both a Batman and Bruce Wayne villain.

I LOVE this idea. Love it.



For the longest time it was rumored that this Batman film would be based on Batman: Prey I kind of wish they had stuck to that. Hugo Strange could have been interesting.

But we shall see.

Kurri
08-26-2011, 08:16 AM
How about Arnold as Mr. Freeze! ok, bad idea...

I would have liked to see The Mad Hatter for some reason. Just has not been done and if done correctly, could be very cool.

d0dg3r
08-26-2011, 08:39 AM
Lex Luthor.

What? It's not like they don't have history. :biggrin:

More seriously, I think you have to use Catwoman, really, she's an A-list Rogue and a good fit with the tone of these movies. Hard to argue against Talia given Ra's previous appearance. Might be funny to throw in the Scarecrow for another cameo -- just a "three-time loser" kind of thing.

Not a big fan of Bane's, but he's a good choice for mastermind -- or co-mastermind -- so I don't have much to dispute. And I'm going to be getting my fix of Hugo Strange and Riddler (my only other choices) from Arkham City in a few months. I'm good.

PastePotPete
08-26-2011, 09:14 AM
For The Dark Knight Rises, I would have gone with Catwoman and Bane also, since they reflect the trilogy's theme perfectly.

How do you figure? Not saying you're wrong but right now I don't know why these two were chosen? They're far from my favorites.

I'm pretty sure the movie will make me like them though!

I was excited when I thought we were going to get Hugo Strange. Adapting Prey would have been perfect. I also think Black Mask would have been cool but we already saw a villain in the movie who had something wrong with their face!

Gary_H
08-26-2011, 01:19 PM
Bane is perfect for coming off the movie we just saw and where Batman is at. If there's a 4th film, then we can go a little more out there with Riddler or Harley ot Black Mask.

brundlefly
08-26-2011, 01:30 PM
For The Dark Knight Rises, I would have gone with Catwoman and Bane also, since they reflect the trilogy's theme perfectly.

Same here. I look forward to Nolan's takes on both these characters.


i think the way to go would have been Hugo Strange using the "Prey" story line.

This is the only other route that I would have gone for DKR. I love Hugo and think he would have worked very well onscreen, particularly if utilizing the plot of Prey.

Nefarius
08-26-2011, 02:28 PM
Being a Hugo Strange fanboy,i would choose him,Bane and propably Catwoman.In my mind,i would combined "Prey" and "Monster Men" storylines.Batman is still hunted by the police framed for the victims of Two-Face and an obsessed psychologist called Hugo Strange would want o mentally challenge the Batman.Instead of using Max Cort,Strange would have releasing from Pena Duro(an infamous Cuban Prison)the man known as Bane,Cuba's most dangerous convict and a physical threat for Batman.I would also have Strange being the inventor of Venom and using it making Bane an unstoppable powerhouse,a "monster" of a fighter.Catwoman would work in this film as a burglar who was inspired from Batman and decided to make a name for herself.

Crimson Knightman
08-26-2011, 04:08 PM
It really depends on the direction of the movie as a whole. If my guess as to what Nolan is going to do pans out then Bane is the obvious Batman villain to go with.

misterS
08-26-2011, 05:54 PM
I like the idea of Bane best, but it would be awesome if the story is based on knightfall and Bane breaks out all the criminals in Arkham. They wouldn't have any character development, but it would still be awesome to see all our favorite criminals in one scene, before Batman and the police have an epic battle with them. The ones that aren't captured could be Bane's henchmen

Jackson Brody
08-26-2011, 06:50 PM
Gorilla Grodd and Black Manta. B:B&TB really raised their profiles.

RubberLotus
08-26-2011, 07:37 PM
I, too, would've used Catwoman and Bane. Simply put, they're the most flexible characters (after Joker) to work with. Catwoman's history runs the gamut from all-out supervillain to more of a hero than Batman himself. Bane is the exact opposite; as a newbie (comparatively speaking) in the world of comics characters, there's not really a whole lot expected of him. As long as you make him formidable to some degree, he could take on literally any role.

I dunno about you guys, but just the thought of Nolan "dark"-ing up Riddler makes my stomach turn; part of Eddie's charm, for me, is the fact that he's not out to kill anyone, or, heck, even torture anyone. He's walking proof that not every Batman villain has to be a hospital-bombing psychopath.

And even if Nolan did avoid that particular pitfall, there would be the equally treacherous (but much harder to spot) pitfall of turning the Riddler into a one-dimensional Man Behind the Curtain. Even BTAS fell victim to this; Eddie himself barely had a personality to speak of in his debut episode, and the whole thing felt like a convoluted excuse to get B&R running through a nice deathtrap-laden maze.

Fosse
08-27-2011, 08:35 PM
Would have thrown Poison Ivy in there somewhere. Not the campy, Uma Thurman version, but more of a tragic lunatic, or maybe a non-powered, crime boss-type character with the signature kiss-and-kill profile.

Mistah K88
08-28-2011, 01:15 AM
Penguin...I need to see him done correctly. As the Gentleman of Crime...being a higher class of crime boss. Falcone, Maroni, and all the others ruled the streets out of fear. Oswald would out of manipulation and pulling strings. Gotham has become worse than ever now that there are crazies out there who aren't afraid to show up.Think of Penguin giving Batman the choice of taking Gotham to before freaks like Joker and Scarecrow started showing up (by letting his mob tear them down)...sure it's tempting, but then, we're back to square one!

greatmetropolitan
08-28-2011, 01:57 PM
The Riddler, with some Gotham "celebrities" thrown in.

Edward Nygma, FBI criminal profiler with a specialty in the really difficult cases. Loves puzzles and crosswords. Called in for the Batman manhunt. He becomes obsessed with figuring out who the Batman is, and is almost driven insane by the riddle. He thinks that Batman is Bruce Wayne, has finally satisfied his curiosity, but Bruce outwits him with a charade that "proves" that Bruce Wayne couldn't possibly be Batman.

This drives Eddie even more nuts, as he was sure he had it. He still needs information, and there's on person who has information on the fateful night Harvey Dent died. The Joker.

We don't see the Joker. All we see is Nygma walking into his cell. We hear laughter. Sick laughter. Nygma is in there for ten minutes. We don't know what Joker says to him. All we know is that by the time he comes out Eddie is full blown insane. He's the Riddler.

Riddle me this, Batman....How does one vigilante stop all the criminals in gotham organised under one man? What if that man figures out who is in charge of every corrupt agency, every mob and ever illegal enterprise in gotham and has dirt on them all? What does Batman do then?

He gets a partner. Dick Grayson, acrobat. Age 16.

Screw it, if this is the last movie in putting in the Boy Wonder and I'm not taking no for an answer.

Cavemold
08-28-2011, 10:58 PM
The riddler a darker and meaner riddler. One who plays with bruces mind. We havent really seen any villan do that yet . In this movie trilogoy.

Professor Moriarty
08-28-2011, 11:11 PM
Hush.

and i'd use Killer Croc as his henchman.

Hopeful
08-29-2011, 03:30 AM
I'd go with what the movies have been building up to: You can't go back, if there is a super-hero, the criminals must become super-villains.

So I'd have Black Mask gather the remains of the Mob and either intimidate them or physically force them into becoming super-villains.

Perhaps Cat-Woman would be a hired thief who's mission is to get close to Batman using her womanly charms.

Penguin is just a regular crooked club owner, who's been forced to take on the bird theme by the increasingly insane Black Mask.

Killer Croc would only have to appear for one fight scene, I'd just allude that he was maimed and tortured, forced into becoming a feral killer.

The Riddler might be some mad genius who just plain loves the new order, to the point where he only talks in riddles.

Hey sure, Bane too, if this was the movies theme, you could have the whole Mob be a reference to somebody!

darkseidpwns
08-29-2011, 06:37 AM
Wrath,he seems like the perfect choice.He's a better antagonist than Jason Todd/Red hood anyway.