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mathew101281
08-14-2011, 08:45 PM
Some people believe that super speed is the most difficult power to write in comics, because the things that would pose a threat to slower heroes should be easily eluded by a speedster. This leads to stories in which speedsters are protrayed as alot weaker then they actually are. (for example deadpool vs the Flash in identity Crisis)

My question is how would you realistcally take down a character like the Flash or even Quicksilver?

Spike-X
08-14-2011, 08:50 PM
Nuke the planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Paradox
08-14-2011, 08:51 PM
mathew101281 gets the standard answer:

My question is how would you realistcally take down a character like the Flash or even Quicksilver?

By the writer writing that you can. :wink:

Psst...you might want to take a question like this over to the Rumbles board.

mailedbypostman1
08-14-2011, 08:55 PM
This would be better suited for rumbles.

In any case:

1) Being so tough the speester can't hurt you anyway and gets bored/tired
2) Being someone who the speedster would hurt themselves if they tried to hit (made of lava etc)
3) Having the ability to fill the area around you with death (like making explosions around you so they can't hurt you)
4) Being fast yourself.
5) Manipulating them so they don't want to attack you in the first place.
6) Being Wolverine.

darthblinx
08-14-2011, 09:00 PM
If you have ice powers...
make an ice wall
or ice the floor
or put them .... on ICE! :tongue:

You could also gas them
or stick some blades hidden in the floor (they'll rush without looking down)
or levitate them into the air
or force their center of gravity to be heavier (there are a couple characters who can do that)

Cavemold
08-14-2011, 09:01 PM
out smarting them . Take batman he out smarts Wally and Barry all the time. Be so tough they don't hurt you. Electric wiring. Explosions in a room.

Jorriss
08-14-2011, 09:06 PM
out smarting them . Take batman he out smarts Wally and Barry all the time.
Batman outsmarts everyone with completely ridiculous, stupid plans. He doesn't really outsmart anyone, it's just anything he does is written to work no matter how outlandish.

Look at Tower of Babel. Those plans were retarded.

mailedbypostman1
08-14-2011, 09:08 PM
Batman outsmarts everyone with completely ridiculous, stupid plans. He doesn't really outsmart anyone, it's just anything he does is written to work no matter how outlandish.

Look at Tower of Babel. Those plans were retarded.

Nah. I mean, making Superman's skin transparent so he gets way more powerful? Genius.

The Black Guardian
08-14-2011, 10:27 PM
Trip them...

thehod
08-14-2011, 10:53 PM
Chop their feet off.

Paradox
08-14-2011, 11:00 PM
Or you could do this to them... :tongue:

http://pointov.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/han-solo-in-carbonite-2.jpg?w=287&h=640

the4thpip
08-14-2011, 11:07 PM
Super-slowness, of course.

JCAll
08-15-2011, 12:09 AM
The Flash? Not realistically. Giant laser from space is a good start.
Quicksilver, he's a lot slower and has less bullshit attached that Flash.

Cavemold
08-15-2011, 12:10 AM
The Flash? Not realistically. Giant laser from space is a good start.
Quicksilver, he's a lot slower and has less bullshit attached that Flash.

realistically you could wrap flash in wire so he couldnt run at all. :wink:

Paradox
08-15-2011, 12:12 AM
Depends, of course. I'm not up on what Flash's powers are currently. Barry certainly could have just vibrated his molecules through the wire.

coveredinbees
08-15-2011, 12:16 AM
Well placed mines.

Cavemold
08-15-2011, 12:16 AM
Depends, of course. I'm not up on what Flash's powers are currently. Barry certainly could have just vibrated his molecules through the wire.

He would have to use alll his powers to get out of the wire. How about setting cement that drys instantley. Say Firestrom drys the cement.

mailedbypostman1
08-15-2011, 12:42 AM
He would have to use alll his powers to get out of the wire. How about setting cement that drys instantley. Say Firestrom drys the cement.

Same thing I think.

StoneGold
08-15-2011, 12:43 AM
The power to cause diarrhea. At super speed? That's gonna be a killer.

Cavemold
08-15-2011, 12:50 AM
The power to cause diarrhea. At super speed? That's gonna be a killer.

Thats great... Well i know if he goes too fast he eventually kills himself . By speeding up time. His powers is dangerous to himself as well.. At least thats how it was shown on Crisis on Two Earths.

pariah-1972
08-15-2011, 12:50 AM
Time control and gravity control.

The Cool Thatguy
08-15-2011, 04:39 AM
360 defenses. Someone like invisible woman could both defense and attack at the same time.

Mass control. Hard as a diamond or ghost like makes it hard to be hit.

Invisibility. Can't hit what you can't see.

Weather control. Hard to run when being hit by gail force winds, rain and hail.

Sonics. For a speedster can hear things when breaking the sound barrier than they can still be affected (in comics)

Ability to absorb kinetic energy. One way to turn super speed punches against them.

Iangould
08-15-2011, 05:09 AM
Thumbtacks.

Or Banana peels.

Banana peels are funnier.

Michael P
08-15-2011, 05:19 AM
Have sex with his wife.

Sean Walsh
08-15-2011, 07:10 AM
Always be sticking your foot out, preparing to trip any superspeedster that may be passing by.

You may laugh mockingly, but in 1924 the trick worked in my family, and it's been a tradition ever since.

Iangould
08-15-2011, 07:17 AM
Have sex with his wife.

Go on to the internet fan forums and claim you had sex with him, that he has a really small penis and that he's into "water sports" and adult baby roleplay.

Plus he has herpes.

Shellhead
08-15-2011, 07:30 AM
Use illusions to confuse and misdirect the speedster. Create illusionary innocent bystanders and disguise yourself as one of them. Make real innocent bystanders look like villains. Make the speedster choose between attacking the wrong targets or hesitating until his speed advantage is gone.

Dreadstar
08-15-2011, 07:32 AM
One of the original posters at CBR, Joe Grendel, came up with a method for disposing of super-speedsters in one of our collaborative fiction stories. Come up with a device that nullifies the speed force, or rather the protective force that surrounds the speedster. Use it on the speedster in the middle of a rainstorm and the dork is hamburger by the end of the block.

But, of course, the device is a deus ex machina, and the results rely on real world physics, which I understand (from having been berated for daring to bring up real-world physics in a comic site discussion recently) is strictly verboten when discussing super-types.

Xiroteus
08-15-2011, 07:33 AM
What if a speedster had a standard of a billion times faster than normal time and twice and at least twice as fast as any threat, meaning nothing could ever be faster than them plus their super speed kicks in anything a threat is about to cause them harm even if they are sleeping.

What would be their weakness?

Dreadstar
08-15-2011, 07:34 AM
Use illusions to confuse and misdirect the speedster. Create illusionary innocent bystanders and disguise yourself as one of them. Make real innocent bystanders look like villains. Make the speedster choose between attacking the wrong targets or hesitating until his speed advantage is gone.

Maybe you could paint a tunnel on the side of a brick wall and make the roadway look like it goes into the "tunnel."


beepbeep

Charles RB
08-15-2011, 07:41 AM
Banana peels would work. If the speedster doesn't see them in time, he'll crash down on the floor at MACH 2.

Spike-X
08-15-2011, 11:49 AM
Have sex with his wife.
Or sister, as the case may be...

mailedbypostman1
08-15-2011, 12:49 PM
Maybe you could paint a tunnel on the side of a brick wall and make the roadway look like it goes into the "tunnel."


beepbeep

Being Wile E. Coyote?

No wait.

Cyke
08-15-2011, 01:00 PM
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/the-flash-1959/115-1.jpg

Props to King Mob for the image.

Tadhg
08-15-2011, 01:18 PM
Maybe you could paint a tunnel on the side of a brick wall and make the roadway look like it goes into the "tunnel."


beepbeep

I was going to suggest that or surrounding the speedster with rakes.

Plankman
08-15-2011, 04:42 PM
Wait till they're asleep then shoot them in the head.
Or if you're concerned about the gunshot waking them up before the bullet hits, fill their bedroom with silent, odourless, deadly gas.

If you're planning to go into combat with a speedster you need to surround yourself with invisible monofilament razor wire so when they run up to punch you they get sliced n diced instead.

The very first issue of Flash I ever read (way back in the 70's) had Black Hand steal Barry's aura so that the friction of running through the air burned him up. He survived by hiding inside his ring. I never did quite figure out how that worked.

Iangould
08-15-2011, 05:09 PM
The most obvious ways to defeat a speedster:

1. Have superspeed yourself.

2. Time dilation - which effectively cancels out superspeed

3. Time travel "Gir, more piggies!"

4. Kinetic energy absorption/redirection