View Full Version : Amazing Spider-Man (Vol.3) #1
Earth2Invincible
08-09-2011, 07:19 PM
Face it, with Marvel being relaunch happy lately, it's going to happen. Most likely after Spider-Island or even prior to the upcoming movie reboot :evilsmile::evilsmile::evilsmile:
NickFury90
08-09-2011, 07:30 PM
Only to revert it back once the big anniversary issue rolls around, like they did with ASM Vol.2
Earth2Invincible
08-09-2011, 07:32 PM
Only to revert it back once the big anniversary issue rolls around, like they did with ASM Vol.2
Marvel: "We Iz Smrt"
Therion
08-09-2011, 07:47 PM
Don't think it will happen, ASM is going digital with 667, xmen will go digital with their relaunch and next year so will the avengers -they will be relaunched near their movie-, so Spidey needs no relaunch at all.
:cool:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: if they relaunch ASM, I'm going to drop all Marvel books and Spider-Man. No questions asked. The only exception for this is if they do what they did with Fantastic Four and that's keep Dan Slott on the title. I'll buy the first issue then. Otherwise, it's over to DC. Oh wait...:frown:
RDMacQ
08-09-2011, 08:19 PM
They're only a little over a year until issue #700, which also coincides with Spidey's 50th birthday.
Not saying it's impossible, but it's probably not going to happen until AFTER #700. In fact, I can see #700 being the end of ASM, with the title being cancelled and relaunched right after.
NickFury90
08-09-2011, 08:26 PM
Personally, I care very little about the numbers on the covers, but the actual content. Renumber all ya want, I don't give a damn about that. But take Dan Slott off the book and replace him with Howard Mackie or whoever, and I'll drop it like a brick.
mlazic
08-09-2011, 08:31 PM
Personally, I care very little about the numbers on the covers, but the actual content. Renumber all ya want, I don't give a damn about that. But take Dan Slott off the book and replace him with Howard Mackie or whoever, and I'll drop it like a brick.
Same with me, I'm a trade waiter so issue numbers mean just slightly less that sweet F' all to me, as long as quality stories are being produced I'll keep buying! :smile:
PhilUrich'sFlamingSword
08-09-2011, 08:44 PM
Face it, with Marvel being relaunch happy lately, it's going to happen. Most likely after Spider-Island or even prior to the upcoming movie reboot :evilsmile::evilsmile::evilsmile:
I seriously doubt this will happen. They tried it once, and it worked terribly. Besides, there's milestone issues upcoming, and upcoming faster than ever with the accelerated schedule of the book. No way that happens anytime soon.
Only to revert it back once the big anniversary issue rolls around, like they did with ASM Vol.2
Revert it back is redundant. To go back to a previous state is what 'revert' means. You just say that it reverted to its original numbering. Sorry, I'm a grammar nazi. :tongue:
Same with me, I'm a trade waiter so issue numbers mean just slightly less that sweet F' all to me, as long as quality stories are being produced I'll keep buying!
This is what's most important to me too. The original relaunch didn't fail for me because of the renumbering, but because of the horrible writing.
Personally, I care very little about the numbers on the covers, but the actual content. Renumber all ya want, I don't give a damn about that. But take Dan Slott off the book and replace him with Howard Mackie or whoever, and I'll drop it like a brick.
Thank you! This is what I was saying. I mean, I like numbering, it shows history with a title. But even if they relaunch it and kick Dan Slott off, that'll be tragic.
Earth2Invincible
08-09-2011, 09:31 PM
I do see the logic in not relaunching the book, mainly because of issue #700 coming up next year if they keep the 2x per month. But remember with Avenging Spider-Man coming up, that can be treated like the 1st issue of the month while the new ASM would be the other. Plus, Marvel's other big-seller, Wolverine, had his own line relaunched last yr so don't question that happening for Spidey.
I personally don't care about the volumes and numbering but with the way DC and Marvel have treated the good ol' #1, it's getting ridiculous. But as long as Slott's still writing it, they still have my money for ASM.
I do see the logic in not relaunching the book, mainly because of issue #700 coming up next year if they keep the 2x per month. But remember with Avenging Spider-Man coming up, that can be treated like the 1st issue of the month while the new ASM would be the other. Plus, Marvel's other big-seller, Wolverine, had his own line relaunched last yr so don't question that happening for Spidey.
I personally don't care about the volumes and numbering but with the way DC and Marvel have treated the good ol' #1, it's getting ridiculous. But as long as Slott's still writing it, they still have my money for ASM.
That's cool, but where is ASM on your pull list?
Earth2Invincible
08-09-2011, 10:10 PM
That's cool, but where is ASM on your pull list?
Doesn't fit and I haven't fixed itin a LOOOOOOOOONGGGGGGG time. Might as well fix it. :biggrin:
Edit: There, all for you.:cool:
Doesn't fit and I haven't fixed in a LOOOOOOOOONGGGGGGG time. Might as well fix it. :biggrin:
There you go. That's the way to do it. :biggrin:
Skaddix
08-09-2011, 11:49 PM
I think Marvel waits until 700 after that renumber. Doc Ock's big plan will come to fruition as next years spidey event it will around 700 after that new number One.
Nova2814.1
08-10-2011, 12:19 AM
From Tom Brevoort's Formspring (http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort/q/222704778604482974):
Q: Iron Man, Wolverine, Thor, Captain America. Uncanny X-Men soon. You guys have relaunched a lot of books lately, especially when a mainstream movie comes out. Does this mean Avengers and Amazing Spider-Man will be relaunched in 2012?
Tom: No, I don't think either will be relaunching in 2012.
Skaddix
08-10-2011, 12:24 AM
He doesn't think. Not an absolute besides this is Tom B.
remoteman
08-10-2011, 01:04 AM
I can't really see ASM being renumbered again given how poorly it was received first time around. I could see a new satellite title launched to coincide with both the release of the movie and Spider-Man's 50th anniversary though.
Nova2814.1
08-10-2011, 01:42 AM
He doesn't think. Not an absolute besides this is Tom B.
Sorry, I could have sworn I typed more. I meant to add that this is Tom's opinion at this point and it could change.
I think he also said a few week's prior, that it may be more likely that Marvel would launch a companion series for Spidey rather than restarting, but I can't find that on his formspring.
Mister Mets
08-10-2011, 04:55 AM
On some instinctive level, I don't see Marvel relaunching a title that comes out more than once a month.
And I don't see Amazing Spider-Man going back to being a 20-22 page monthly.
Chris S.
08-10-2011, 07:08 AM
On some instinctive level, I don't see Marvel relaunching a title that comes out more than once a month.
And I don't see Amazing Spider-Man going back to being a 20-22 page monthly.
Yea and that is why the price stays at 3.99.
I'm of the mindset that I'd love to see the book go back to a 20-22 page format and the price drop a dollar. The bonus stuff is often a waste. No offense Dan...
And like most people said I don't see a renumber prior to 700. Also like a lot of people have said, the number gimmick is lame. I don't care what number is on the front to be honest.
Mister Mets
08-10-2011, 07:40 AM
Yea and that is why the price stays at 3.99.
I'm of the mindset that I'd love to see the book go back to a 20-22 page format and the price drop a dollar. The bonus stuff is often a waste. No offense Dan...
And like most people said I don't see a renumber prior to 700. Also like a lot of people have said, the number gimmick is lame. I don't care what number is on the front to be honest.Er, the book is going back to 22 pages, but the price is going to be 3.99. (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=370607)
The numbers-crunchers decided circa the Big Time that the book was going to be four dollars. The question was whether there would be 22 pages of content (not including the recap and letters page) or 30.
whiteshark
08-10-2011, 08:32 AM
Amazing Spider-Man have been just having positive fan and critics review.
Is a Marvel top 10 best selling comic book.
Last month was actually the best comic book sold.
Marvel writers have been already making publicity of the 700 issue,and the numbering of the title is viewed as something cool since its one of the oldest ongoing comic book.
Thus why its more that likely that this ASM (Vol 3) its not happening that soon at all.
Combustible Pumpkins
08-10-2011, 08:41 AM
It depends on what the numbers look like for the DC relaunch. If DC pounds them it might be war! Never thought I'd see Detective or Action renumbered, so anything's possible, but I'll agree with Whiteshark since ASM generally sells in the top ten - fifteen consistently.
Nova2814.1
08-10-2011, 09:03 AM
I don't think it's likely that Spidey will be relaunched either, but as a counter point, Uncanny X-Men has also been a long running, top 15 selling book and that's being relaunched later this year. I don't think any classic numbering is safe on the basis of just being a high number.
RDMacQ
08-10-2011, 09:09 AM
I don't think it's likely that Spidey will be relaunched either, but as a counter point, Uncanny X-Men has also been a long running, top 15 selling book and that's being relaunched later this year. I don't think any classic numbering is safe on the basis of just being a high number.
Also, high ranking books like the Avengers, Batman and Green Lantern were or are going to be relaunched with new #1's, so high sales won't prevent a relauch.
I think a good way to look at it is- if a book is doing poorly, it will be cancelled and relaunched to get more attention. If a book is doing well, it will be cancelled and relaunched to keep attention on the book and to provide continued momentum.
I don't think it's likely that Spidey will be relaunched either, but as a counter point, Uncanny X-Men has also been a long running, top 15 selling book and that's being relaunched later this year. I don't think any classic numbering is safe on the basis of just being a high number.
But despite the high sales, it's been dragging in quality. ASM however, has not.
Also, high ranking books like the Avengers, Batman and Green Lantern were or are going to be relaunched with new #1's, so high sales won't prevent a relauch.
I think a good way to look at it is- if a book is doing poorly, it will be cancelled and relaunched to get more attention. If a book is doing well, it will be cancelled and relaunched to keep attention on the book and to provide continued momentum.
Unless of course, that relaunch takes away the creative team for whatever reason. i.e. Scott Snyder, Jock, and Francesco Francavilla on Detective Comics
OrpheusTelos
08-10-2011, 09:15 AM
It depends on what the numbers look like for the DC relaunch. If DC pounds them it might be war! Never thought I'd see Detective or Action renumbered, so anything's possible, but I'll agree with Whiteshark since ASM generally sells in the top ten - fifteen consistently.
I doubt DC will be able to resist the urge to return to the old numbering when issue #1000 approaches.
I doubt DC will be able to resist the urge to return to the old numbering when issue #1000 approaches.
Oh definetely. In 8 years, they'll crack. But in my opinion, they'll do a special issue, and just continue on the numbering from there.
stephen wacker
08-10-2011, 09:39 AM
I don't think it's likely that Spidey will be relaunched either, but as a counter point, Uncanny X-Men has also been a long running, top 15 selling book and that's being relaunched later this year. I don't think any classic numbering is safe on the basis of just being a high number.
Uncanny was always meant to be a decades long mini-series.
SW
Uncanny was always meant to be a decades long mini-series.
SW
Really? Wow. That's...wow.
dcarner
08-10-2011, 10:01 AM
I doubt DC will be able to resist the urge to return to the old numbering when issue #1000 approaches.
That or every three or four years they'll relaunch from #1 again.
dcarner
08-10-2011, 10:04 AM
I don't think it's likely that Spidey will be relaunched either, but as a counter point, Uncanny X-Men has also been a long running, top 15 selling book and that's being relaunched later this year. I don't think any classic numbering is safe on the basis of just being a high number.
I don't understand why people get so up in arms about this book is the only book to not be relaunched since it has its original numbering. For a long time, this book wasn't even printing original content, it was reproducing its old run!! Comics are comics and numbers are numbers. I don't care if its ASM vol 97 Issue 3, if its a good story about Pete, than let's have it.
I don't understand why people get so up in arms about this book is the only book to not be relaunched since it has its original numbering. For a long time, this book wasn't even printing original content, it was reproducing its old run!! Comics are comics and numbers are numbers. I don't care if its ASM vol 97 Issue 3, if its a good story about Pete, than let's have it.
I agree with you there, but to me some numbers are important, and for others, no. Like with Spidey and the X-Men, their high numbers show history and importance to me, wheras with Daredevil, Moon Knight, and Punisher, it's just they're lesser tier and needs these in order to be important again.
RDMacQ
08-10-2011, 10:33 AM
That or every three or four years they'll relaunch from #1 again.
That's the problem I have with this sort of tactic- the back and forth on the numbering tends to lessen the impact on the relaunch. Just look at USM- ended it's initial run, relaunced as a new title, reverted to it's original numbering in time for the 150th issue, then cancelled again and relaunched with a new #1. All within the span of like 2 years.
The relaunch trend can quickly lend itself to being a tired gag, and begin to turn fans, spectators and collectors off. It's good for a quick burst of attention, but it shouldn't be overused.
Nova2814.1
08-10-2011, 11:02 AM
But despite the high sales, it's been dragging in quality. ASM however, has not.
Quality is subjective though. How does a publisher determine what's a quality book and what's not a quality book if both are selling about the same amount month after month?
(I'm not disagreeing that ASM is a quality book btw.)
I don't understand why people get so up in arms about this book is the only book to not be relaunched since it has its original numbering. For a long time, this book wasn't even printing original content, it was reproducing its old run!! Comics are comics and numbers are numbers. I don't care if its ASM vol 97 Issue 3, if its a good story about Pete, than let's have it.
Exactly, the number on the cover just helps me know what order I should read them in. If a book renumbered every year I wouldn't really object as long as there was something on the cover that differentiate it from #X of last year.
Uncanny was always meant to be a decades long mini-series.
SW
Again?? Can anyone in Marvel count??? :tongue:
http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-comics/attach/1/g180_1263738766.jpg
Quality is subjective though. How does a publisher determine what's a quality book and what's not a quality book if both are selling about the same amount month after month?
(I'm not disagreeing that ASM is a quality book btw.)
http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-comics/attach/1/g180_1263738766.jpg
Quality is subjective, but they determine it by reviews, importance, and acclaim. Right now, ASM has all of that.
Oh, and that image cracked me up! 80 in 4, wow!
RDMacQ
08-10-2011, 11:33 AM
Again?? Can anyone in Marvel count??? :tongue:
http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-comics/attach/1/g180_1263738766.jpg
Which will soon start again with issue #81 sometime in 2012.
dcarner
08-10-2011, 12:09 PM
Again?? Can anyone in Marvel count??? :tongue:
http://cdn.tfw2005.com/transformers-comics/attach/1/g180_1263738766.jpg
I loved that final numbering!! I thought it was great of them to acknowledge that the fans turned a 4 issues mini into a fairly lengthy series.
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