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connyves
07-21-2011, 09:20 PM
there the ultimate x-men then why not an age of apocalypse monthly series? After read uncanny x-force 11, i was fascinated about its world and characters.

jarrod
07-21-2011, 09:30 PM
I'd read it. Kurt and Rachel were awesome in UXF11.

Genki Sudo
07-21-2011, 09:32 PM
After reading the anniversary mini that I only got because of Bachalo's art no thanks as that did a huge disservice to the original and it's tie ins

Whim
07-21-2011, 09:47 PM
it wouldn't work. first there's no more Apocalypse and how is AoA without the last A? besides that what made AoA special is literally anything could happen, and it's kinda lost that feel.




if AoA Abyss returned though ..... I'm in.

Shmoo
07-21-2011, 10:02 PM
Ever read the original, if not it is really damn good. It is tough to live up to that and anything after almost feels like a disservice. Especially when you consider the original ending to AoA

Thess
07-21-2011, 10:50 PM
The Age of Apocalypse should have ended with Omega. Anything else is a disservice to the story.

The ending was so poignant.

krisis
07-21-2011, 10:59 PM
The Age of Apocalypse should have ended with Omega. Anything else is a disservice to the story.

The ending was so poignant.

Agreed.

Though, that said, if they're going to exhume the body, it's probably the one alt-universe book I would ever buy regularly.

worstblogever
07-22-2011, 02:12 AM
Sometimes, it's better remembering something fondly. Every time a story goes back to AoA, it seems like some of the luster comes off of it.

Nicoclaws
07-22-2011, 02:17 AM
Sometimes, it's better remembering something fondly. Every time a story goes back to AoA, it seems like some of the luster comes off of it.

UXF is ok for the moment. The only bad thing is it must stick with the Anniversary version that sucked. A lot. Even Bachalo was bad in that thing.

worstblogever
07-22-2011, 02:22 AM
UXF is ok for the moment. The only bad thing is it must stick with the Anniversary version that sucked. A lot. Even Bachalo was bad in that thing.

See, that's what I mean. It's a near impossible feat to top how great AoA was. Even if a writer puts something anywhere close to on par with it, like we're seeing in Uncanny X-Force (so far), you get something that's mediocre.

Let me put it another way, I liked Kingdom Come at DC. I wish they'd never brought it up after the original miniseries. Because the Kingdom, Countdown's use of it, etc. have tried to milk it, but that cow's done outta milk.

You just can't always try and go back.

Thess
07-22-2011, 02:58 AM
See, that's what I mean. It's a near impossible feat to top how great AoA was. Even if a writer puts something anywhere close to on par with it, like we're seeing in Uncanny X-Force (so far), you get something that's mediocre.

Let me put it another way, I liked Kingdom Come at DC. I wish they'd never brought it up after the original miniseries. Because the Kingdom, Countdown's use of it, etc. have tried to milk it, but that cow's done outta milk.

You just can't always try and go back.

This is what I feel. AoA was the highlight of the 90s X-Men (the only good thing) since Claremont left in X-Men 3.

Ditto about Kingdom Come. No revival will measured up.

UXF is good, but I feel this is an AU version of the 'true' AoA.

nate-grey
07-22-2011, 04:55 AM
AOA was just a true inspiration when it came out. Trying get different writers or even the same writers back together again is never going to be quite the same. The greatest classic rock bands haven't really put out decent albums in years. Once the magic is gone it's hard to find again. It's best to move on to the next great idea.

Also, the setup was perfect the first time through with Apocalypse ruling America and the X-Men in a race for time to take him down. Once he was deposed, where do you really go from there? No threat is ever really going to match up to that.

blackphoenix
07-22-2011, 05:06 AM
I hated the 10th Anniversary AoA specials. They were truly lame! Even without Apocalypse, there is no way the AoA Earth--Earth 295--should have been able to restore societal order so quickly!

I don't believe I would support an AoA monthly, even though Apocalypse 295 was reborn in UXF.

Swashbuckler
07-22-2011, 05:53 AM
Only if the series absorbs Nate Grey back into his Homeland where he can never bother me and the 616 universe again.

yanapryde
07-22-2011, 06:06 AM
After reading the anniversary mini that I only got because of Bachalo's art no thanks as that did a huge disservice to the original and it's tie ins

Yes.
part of the brilliance of AoA is its finality.
It was and is a joy to remember, not necessarily continue.
Though revisiting, as done in UXF, has been handled well so far.

The Sword Is Drawn
07-22-2011, 06:19 AM
ONly if it had the right creative team and approach. Rather than just doping it for the sake of it. Like the Anniversary Mini effectively did.

f4faith
07-22-2011, 06:21 AM
Yes.
part of the brilliance of AoA is its finality.
It was and is a joy to remember, not necessarily continue.
Though revisiting, as done in UXF, has been handled well so far.

Still, why go there? They could have gone anywhere some other place Apocalypse ruled. As noted it was the finality that made AoA. Dredging it up will never made it better and we've seen it make much worse. It seems they can't leave well enough alone and lack imagination.

krisis
07-22-2011, 06:25 AM
This could be the first X-topic I've seen a whole first page of posts effectively reach a consensus on.


Only if the series absorbs Nate Grey back into his Homeland where he can never bother me and the 616 universe again.

Haha, sold!

yanapryde
07-22-2011, 06:27 AM
Still, why go there? They could have gone anywhere some other place Apocalypse ruled. As noted it was the finality that made AoA. Dredging it up will never made it better and we've seen it make much worse. It seems they can't leave well enough alone and lack imagination.

Although we've only just begun the AoA business over in UXF, the few interactions have been fun. Psylocke and Sabertooth. Wolverine and Jean and Kurt. Granted, its not over, but....Remender has done a successful job with his title thats really only been met with praise, it seems, so perhaps this brief encounter will continue to be an enjoyable revisitation.

But who knows.

wader0069
07-22-2011, 06:33 AM
Remender is doing a marvelous job touching up on the AoA universe, however it can't last. Eventually it will die out, or something will unravel and not make sense.

I just can't see a good enough book to support a monthly Apocalypse series..... Unless Remender or some other writer does something spectacular to bring the shine back to that world. Also by shine I mean dark creativity it once held...

The Sword Is Drawn
07-22-2011, 06:35 AM
The AoA DID have some great takes on characters. I would certainly LIKE to read more. I'm enjoyimg what little we've had so far in Uncanny X-Force. But the tone of AoA was so specific when it was originally published. And I don't think that many attempts to recapture that have really managed to get close to it.

The anniversaty series in particular was flawed. Totally different tone, and threw in far too many characters who had never been players in AoA, purely because they were in the modern X-Men of the day. It really devalued the original, for me.

If an AoA series were proposed, for me, there would need to be a far clearer overarching pitch. A specific story to tell. And much more of the vibe of the original universe.

JmH Reborn
07-22-2011, 06:39 AM
I see no reason that a book couldn't stand as long as they nerf the amount tie-ins and stuff.

Having Amazing X-Men: Age of Apocalypse as a sole title and let things run wild in a contained book would be something I'd be interested. If they got nearly 100 issues out of Ultimate X-Men, I certainly think AoA has enough stories to tell, with characters that people already know and love. If this UXF issue ends with 616 Apocalypse being revived and perhaps making a permanent home in the AoA, until he is strong enough to invade the 616, I think its a good start. Everyone is back to being fearful

Askani's Flame
07-22-2011, 06:44 AM
Maybe if they explored the building of Apocalypse's control of the world and such (like they did in some of the annuals/omega). Otherwise I feel like it takes away from the shear awesomeness of it's first appearance.

Mr.Logan
07-22-2011, 06:57 AM
The AoA DID have some great takes on characters. I would certainly LIKE to read more. I'm enjoyimg what little we've had so far in Uncanny X-Force. But the tone of AoA was so specific when it was originally published. And I don't think that many attempts to recapture that have really managed to get close to it.

The anniversaty series in particular was flawed. Totally different tone, and threw in far too many characters who had never been players in AoA, purely because they were in the modern X-Men of the day. It really devalued the original, for me.

If an AoA series were proposed, for me, there would need to be a far clearer overarching pitch. A specific story to tell. And much more of the vibe of the original universe.

Agreed,but I think a monthly title could work.Maybe have a reborn Apocalype return or a new villain created for the AoA universe only that has ties to him.I would also throw in the the idea of a fully turned villain Wolverine and Storm as the big adversary to them team.


Then have the X-Men team line up of Magneto,Rogue,Jean Grey,Nightcrawler,Sunfire,Sabertooth,Blink and X-23.

Thess
07-22-2011, 01:08 PM
Maybe if they explored the building of Apocalypse's control of the world and such (like they did in some of the annuals/omega). Otherwise I feel like it takes away from the shear awesomeness of it's first appearance.

This I can see, but have it to still end on Omega. It was that finality with Magneto's departing words to Xavier that made it for me. It was an ode to his dream and his influence like no other.

Slant
07-22-2011, 01:12 PM
Hell no.

AOA should be put out to pasture forever.