Will you go back to X-Men (adj.) when Yost leaves?

[JmH Reborn]

I know the general feeling of X-Men pre-Yost storyline has been deservedly underwhelming. Things have picked up with this story under Yost. I know it isn't firing on all cylinders, but its a good story overall, even though the timing is awkward.

Anyways, with the storyline wrapping up and going back to Gischler (per previous interviews) will you guys be going back to the book under Gischler?

[alf_to_the_rescue]

The only thing that got me to read it was Bachalo.

[darknessatnoon]

That Professor X Jubilee story was the nail in the coffin.

[fortyseven]

That Professor X Jubilee story was the nail in the coffin.

Don't lie. That issue had nothing to do with Jubilee.

[Nicoclaws]

I kinda liked the Lizard arc. But I think Bachalo was the main reason. What the next arc about ?

[Nicoclaws]

The editors haven't told Gischler yet.

The Unchosen, the X-men that neither Gillen nor Aaron want.

[teddyeatsyourface]

I was never a big fan of Gischler's X-men. At least Yost story is somewhat entertaining. It has nothing to do with anything, but still it gets the job done.

[Dudebro McTypo]

Yeah to be honest "X-Men" has be pretty much meh

Yost's arc is average...but so far Gischler's story's have been meh

I hope at SDCC Yost's announces he's back on an X-Book full time

[Pixie_Solanas]

I hope at SDCC Yost's announces he's back on an X-Book full time

Even if his arc to date is just average?

[Chase_Stein]

If and only if the following writers will be writing it: Marjorie Liu or Chuck Kim.

[darknessatnoon]

Is average > meh? Someone please come translate from Big G-ese.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Is average > meh? Someone please come translate from Big G-ese.

Sounds like CBR's "4-stars for everything" rating schema.

[Nicoclaws]

I know the general feeling of X-Men pre-Yost storyline has been deservedly underwhelming. Things have picked up with this story under Yost. I know it isn't firing on all cylinders, but its a good story overall, even though the timing is awkward.

Anyways, with the storyline wrapping up and going back to Gischler (per previous interviews) will you guys be going back to the book under Gischler?

See, I find Yost arc pretty boring. As boring as the vampire arc, if not more. The NYC arc was fun super-heroics with a small group of cool X-men. I'd like that again.

[Filthy Mutie]

Where's the poll? I need to express my displeasure with a Yost-less X-Men using a graph.

[Swashbuckler]

Gischler's X-Men has been a huge yawn. That ProfX issue was awful and like a few have said, only Bachalo brought people in for the Lizard arc. The initial arc could have been so much better, but it had all the wrong beats focused on. Luckily, other writers handled Jubilee's emotions afterward because it was evident Gischler did not want to. The story under Yost is entertaining and may go somewhere I fell at least. The next arc under Gischler doesn't sound too appealing either.

[teddyeatsyourface]

Is average > meh? Someone please come translate from Big G-ese.

Average = Good, enjoyable, nothing to write home about but entertaining nonetheless.

Meh = not bad but not good either, boring, barely worth a look because it's so uninteresting.


I think that's the correct internet comic book forum vocabulary definition.:confused::confused::confused:

[Swashbuckler]

Just double checked, the next arc features the FF, Dr.Doom, Wolverine, Magneto and Dr.Nemesis getting stuck in some weird dimension. Sounds awful. I'm sure some other X-Man who never gets any love will be included as well, like Emma Frost. Doom and Magneto are great characters when done right, but I doubt this off hand unoriginal adventure will highlight them appropriately. There's also no penciler listed on Marvel's site (that I am noticing) so you can tell no one particularly cares.

[Dudebro McTypo]

Even if his arc to date is just average?

He's proven himself in the past


Is average > meh? Someone please come translate from Big G-ese.


Sounds like CBR's "4-stars for everything" rating schema.


Average = Good, enjoyable, nothing to write home about but entertaining nonetheless.

Meh = not bad but not good either, boring, barely worth a look because it's so uninteresting.


I think that's the correct internet comic book forum vocabulary definition.:confused::confused::confused:

Thank you teddy

[Fringe Division]

I prefer Gischler.

[Prodigy55]

i prefer gischler too.

[darknessatnoon]

Thank you teddy

That's "thank you teddyeatsyourface," to you.

[MarvelMaster616]

I really like Yost. He's been one of my favorite X-men writers since he worked on X-Force with Craig Kyle. I love what he's done with the Avengers cartoon. I'm glad he took a shot at another X-books, but he's made it clear already that his primary roles with Marvel are in the animation department. That said, I'll miss his influence on the X-books. I don't know who would follow his lead appropriately. I think Gischler is coming back, but I've been really underwhelmed by his work. It's not bad, but it definitely has room for improvement. I'd like to see Rick Remender get his hands on another book. He's done a fantastic job with Uncanny X-Force. I would love to see his take on adjectiveless. If not him, I think Greg Pak should get another shot at the X-books. He recently finished his Hulk run and he did a respectable job with the Phoenix Endsong and Warsong stories. Why not give him something else? Those are the only two I can think of right now, but I wish Yost would stay on a bit longer. Then again, so long as he keeps making Avengers awesome I'll be content. :cool:

[Pixie_Solanas]

He's proven himself in the past



Ahh, Necrosha!

[Pixie_Solanas]

be honest, has anyone ever read an entire marvelmaster616 post?

He lost me at "I really like Yost!"

[Dudebro McTypo]

Ahh, Necrosha!

One meh arc is forgivable...the rest of X-Force was great

[wader0069]

be honest, has anyone ever read an entire marvelmaster616 post?


Anyways to stay on topic, I love Yost. He writes stories that appeal to me. Not always, but most of the time. The vampire arc was horrendous, and I am not looking forward to Gischler....

[Seresecros]

Ahhh, lapsang souchong.

[darknessatnoon]

Ahhh, lapsang souchong.

Isn't that the tea that Psylocke used to poison Dr. Takaguchi?

[Pixie_Solanas]

Ahhh, lapsang souchong.

I luv Milligan! Emma uses Cerebro to brew her tea. lol. Subtlely deconstructs Xavier's "dream" to its very distilled essence. A light beverage.

[Memphis Raines]

I really like Yost's take on the X-Men, but Gischler has been horrible; he's like the type of low quality writer that they get to write annuals, backup stories, or those free X-Men Pizza Hut comics that they gave away years ago. Don't know if I can take another one of his arcs...

[Seresecros]

I luv Milligan! Emma uses Cerebro to brew her tea. lol. Subtlely deconstructs Xavier's "dream" to its very distilled essence. A light beverage.

No other writers can shun editorial the way Milligan and Morrison do, and get away with it.

[Foon4000]

The only thing that got me to read it was Bachalo.

Put him back on and I'll buy it again. I don't care what the story's about.

Yost is a three stars out of five kind of writer. Not Austen, but nothing to write home about. Gischler's not great either, but he used Storm and Gambit and Dark Beast and made fun of the readership.

[Herring]

Average = Good, enjoyable, nothing to write home about but entertaining nonetheless.

Meh = not bad but not good either, boring, barely worth a look because it's so uninteresting.


I think that's the correct internet comic book forum vocabulary definition.:confused::confused::confused:

I believe this reverses if one is from a cricket playing nation.

[Windrider]

http://images.tzaam.com/full/17f.gif


Just accept the inevitable...as i have





Ugh....this is hilarious....LMAO

[Windrider]

I prefer Yost's writing to Gischler, whom I think is decent (loved that used Dark Beast as a villain), and I'll still buy it.

[The_Greatest_Username]

I really like Yost. He's been one of my favorite X-men writers since he worked on X-Force with Craig Kyle. I love what he's done with the Avengers cartoon. I'm glad he took a shot at another X-books, but he's made it clear already that his primary roles with Marvel are in the animation department. That said, I'll miss his influence on the X-books. I don't know who would follow his lead appropriately. I think Gischler is coming back, but I've been really underwhelmed by his work. It's not bad, but it definitely has room for improvement. I'd like to see Rick Remender get his hands on another book. He's done a fantastic job with Uncanny X-Force. I would love to see his take on adjectiveless. If not him, I think Greg Pak should get another shot at the X-books. He recently finished his Hulk run and he did a respectable job with the Phoenix Endsong and Warsong stories. Why not give him something else? Those are the only two I can think of right now, but I wish Yost would stay on a bit longer. Then again, so long as he keeps making Avengers awesome I'll be content. :cool:

Eh, I didn't really enjoy Pak's X-Men work...Endsong was a good story for setting up Jean's return, but it wasn't that's about it. I'd like to to see Dan Slott or Kathryn Immonen on the X-Men. At least for one arc.

[Talisman]

One meh arc is forgivable...the rest of X-Force was great

??? The silly demon bear shit was horrendous, and bringing in Ghost Rider made no sense whatsoever. And let's not forget Messiah War which was bland, and the bad art all around for the series and I'd say it was a meh series.

[JmH Reborn]

Where's the poll? I need to express my displeasure with a Yost-less X-Men using a graph.

Ask and ye shall receive

[The_Greatest_Username]

Kyle and Yost's X-Force was one of my favorite books of the past decade.

[darknessatnoon]

X-Men First to Last has been great.

[Aguja]

I luv Milligan! Emma uses Cerebro to brew her tea. lol. Subtlely deconstructs Xavier's "dream" to its very distilled essence. A light beverage.

Someone should dig up, I think it was DN@N's, thread about coffee and the X-Men and compare it to the appearance of tea in the books. I wonder if it will correlate with a decline in Xavier and Storm's presence in the books?

I will look for it when I get off work!

[darknessatnoon]

Someone should dig up, I think it was DN@N's, thread about coffee and the X-Men and compare it to the appearance of tea in the books. I wonder if it will correlate with a decline in Xavier and Storm's presence in the books?

I will look for it when I get off work!

lol Storm. get the image from New X-Men of Storm on her hands and knees carrying a cup of green tea for Professor Xavier in her lock-picking teeth. Then get a scan of her telling Armour to get her some green tea, but to get on her hands and knees first.

[Jack Flash]

I am asking nicely. Keep it about comics, not each other.

Also, don't call other posters trolls. It's explicitly against the rules. Stop it.

[Filthy Mutie]

I think there are artists worse than Greg Land currently doing work for Marvel, so that "negative" response is a little misleading. But, no, unless word of mouth gets to me about large improvements to the book.

I've said this before in a review I did of a Yost issue, but: At first I wasn't into 'First to Last' at all, but then it turned a corner and I got on board.

[Aguja]

lol Storm. get the image from New X-Men of Storm on her hands and knees carrying a cup of green tea for Professor Xavier in her lock-picking teeth. Then get a scan of her telling Armour to get her some green tea, but to get on her hands and knees first.

You've made so many threads I can't find it!

[Patrion]

The Vampires were Meh, the Lizards was cool (read: Bachalo FTW!!). I haven't read past that, other than the first issue of the current arc, decided to tradewait it. I liked the Gischler I have read, so I have good faith in the next arc. Also, Yost is one half of the SHIZZNIT!!

[The Black Guardian]

X-Men still hasn't been as bad as Astonishing and Uncanny X-Men.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

No. No way. No how.

Gischler is bloody awful, and his run was far from just being underwhelming it was totally redundant.

Really this book just needs to end. It doesn't offer anything unique. It's surplus to requirements. Especially once Schism is done.

[Nite-Wing]

Yost's run is boring
Gischler's run is boring

In conclusion no one is winning

[xerox-kitty]

I really like Yost's take on the X-Men, but Gischler has been horrible; he's like the type of low quality writer that they get to write annuals, backup stories, or those free X-Men Pizza Hut comics that they gave away years ago. Don't know if I can take another one of his arcs...
I love this quote... but it's worrying because it's true.

The new X-Men series launched badly. It involved Vampires at a time when many comic readers were sick of Twilight & growing tired of True Blood. There was no defined X-Men line-up to differentiate the title from either Astonishing or Uncanny X-Men. All the promotional material seemed to hinge on connecting a few random non-mutant characters to the X-Men (Blade, Spider-Man, Elektra all claiming that "I Am An X-Man") of which we've only seen two characters working alongside, but not joining the X-Men. There were various images featuring X-Man who (over a year later) has only started to appear... in the New Mutants, not in X-Men.

I was suckered into 'trying' the new book. I stuck with it because of Bachalo. Dropped it for all of 1 issue when they returned to vampires, and was suckered back into the book with the presence of Yost... and have enjoyed the story more than both Uncanny books & the New Mutants. But I'm definitely dropping it after Yost leaves.

The 'First To Last' story promised big bad new Neo characters, who were killed off after just a few pages. After that the Evolutionaries have since been an immediate threat that are scarier than anything seen or hinted at in Prelude To/Schism. Sure the story could probably have been wrapped up in fewer issues... but it's been a far improvement on the majority of other X-Titles (aside from Legacy & X-Factor).

[Master of Sound]

X-Men is currently the second best x-series at the moment, so no change needed.

[MarvelMaster616]

Eh, I didn't really enjoy Pak's X-Men work...Endsong was a good story for setting up Jean's return, but it wasn't that's about it. I'd like to to see Dan Slott or Kathryn Immonen on the X-Men. At least for one arc.

Fair enough. I wouldn't mind seeing Dan Slott take a stab at the X-books either. But I'm not entirely sure a book like X-men would be best for his style. He seems to do his best work when he has a small set of characters to focus on like in Spider-Man. The X-books are pretty vast. Not saying that he can't do it, but I think it would be very different. But I would still give it a shot. :biggrin:

[Memphis Raines]

Fair enough. I wouldn't mind seeing Dan Slott take a stab at the X-books either. But I'm not entirely sure a book like X-men would be best for his style. He seems to do his best work when he has a small set of characters to focus on like in Spider-Man. The X-books are pretty vast. Not saying that he can't do it, but I think it would be very different. But I would still give it a shot. :biggrin:

NO!!!! Keep Dan Slott on ASM and let him stay focused on knocking the ball out of the park twice a month in that title!!! Amazing Spider-Man is the best thing Marvel (and arguably super hero comics period) has to offer right now. So please allow Mr. Slott to maintain that focus.

[Dark Phoenix]

I think there are artists worse than Greg Land currently doing work for Marvel,

There are??

[Filthy Mutie]

There are??

Yes.

The fastest example I can produce right now, because I am a little too busy today, is taken from this thread: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=376841

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/af3c942i9240/prv9240_pg4.jpg

[Ziral]

David Lafuente is terrible but I'd take him over Land easily. Land is the worst artist working for the Big two.

I'm giving X-Men one more arc and the .1 issue.

[Ex_]

Maybe someone else will be taking over for ReGenesis? I hope? Maybe CHUCK KIM or JAMES ASMUS.

[Prodigy55]

What? Lafuente is one of the best artists at Marvel. You are retarded.

[Peter F.]

What? Lafuente is one of the best artists at Marvel. You are retarded.

He upgraded the New Mutants costumes. They have zippers now.

[Prodigy55]

That's the best Warlock since Bill S.

[darknessatnoon]

That's the best Warlock since Bill S.

Is Bill S. any relation to Duane S.?

[Prodigy55]

all white people look alike to me *shrug*

[Barachiel]

Far be it from me to expect an objective poll on CBR, but you really should have an option for those of us who never left.

[JmH Reborn]

Far be it from me to expect an objective poll on CBR, but you really should have an option for those of us who never left.

I'd assume that if you were a fan of his work prior to Yost, you were already on board and Yost coming onto the book did not cause you to leave, so answering Yes kinda lumps you in there

[krisis]

I really like Yost's take on the X-Men, but Gischler has been horrible; he's like the type of low quality writer that they get to write annuals, backup stories, or those free X-Men Pizza Hut comics that they gave away years ago. Don't know if I can take another one of his arcs...

I declare this to be truth. PREACH IT.