X-Men SCHISM #1 Review/Spoilers: The TRUTH Finally Revealed!

[Aguja]

A true Jean purist would use Internet Explorer and just ignore everything that's post 2004. That's why Brian M refuses to acknowledge Florida's two championships.

Actually true Jean fans only use Netscape. Other web browsers are too coarse and impure.

[vitruvian]

we need a coalition of lawyers to draft the indictments against the united states. it would have to be a collection of smart men and women who aren't afraid of the president.

vange whedon would be in. she-hulk would need convincing but it's not impossible. would matt murdock be up to it? namor once convinced matt to sue all surface people of crimes against humanity in a new york state court.

I think both Jen and Matt have been disbarred; not 100% sure on Matt, although you'd think it would be a sure thing with everybody and his brother knowing about him running Shadowland. Jen for sure.

Of course, she probably still has standing with the Living Tribunal's courts, the Magistrati. The advantage of bringing an indictment or lawsuit there would be that given the cosmic jurisdiction, a seat on the Security Council won't let you weasel out. The disadvantage? Who knows if building killer robots is even a crime under that code.

[AcesX1X]

i'm pretty sure killer robots are now considered weapons of mass destruction? matt and jen don't need their licenses to draft indictments. they can bring their case to the world's court, where the united states has no jurisdiction.

also, they don't need to officially represent. vange still has her license to practice. also, cable gave sam guthrie a fake license to practice law, so he could even come on as "silent council." matt and jen could help them beef up their case tho.

[MartinRedmond]

Actually true Jean fans only use Netscape. Other web browsers are too coarse and impure.

I thought FireFox was Netscape (Mozilla).

[Skaddix]

i'm pretty sure killer robots are now considered weapons of mass destruction? matt and jen don't need their licenses to draft indictments. they can bring their case to the world's court, where the united states has no jurisdiction.

also, they don't need to officially represent. vange still has her license to practice. also, cable gave sam guthrie a fake license to practice law, so he could even come on as "silent council." matt and jen could help them beef up their case tho.

It would have to go to the Supreme Court, u need special permission to take a case to the SC. Which none of those lawyers have.

Besides there is no treaty on the production of weapons of mass destruction with Utopia or Atlantis so it matters not.

[AnthonyJ]

i'm pretty sure killer robots are now considered weapons of mass destruction?
Only if they also happen to be weapons of mass destruction. Your average Sentinel doesn't seem much different from selling tanks and aircraft.

[Runguy]

I thought FireFox was Netscape (Mozilla).

Well, actually Firefox is an independent company :biggrin:

[AcesX1X]

It would have to go to the Supreme Court, u need special permission to take a case to the SC. Which none of those lawyers have.

Besides there is no treaty on the production of weapons of mass destruction with Utopia or Atlantis so it matters not.

the mutant race does not need a treaty. all it needs is to feel threatened by the united states trying to make them go extinct. and atlantis cares nothing for treaties. they once successfully invaded the united states and held the united nations hostage because the army captured one of their own. they needed no supreme court to get their demands met.

[Aguja]

I thought FireFox was Netscape (Mozilla).

It's an evolution of it but it is unclean. Old Netscape only.

[Skaddix]

the mutant race does not need a treaty. all it needs is to feel threatened by the united states trying to make them go extinct. and atlantis cares nothing for treaties. they once successfully invaded the united states and held the united nations hostage because the army captured one of their own. they needed no supreme court to get their demands met.

Most mutants on Utopia are Americans. They need the US for their resources. Oh and there in US territory. All the US has to do is freeze Worthington and Frost Industries and the X-men are screwed.


Great but current Atlantis does not have such ability especially since Attuma is committing genocide.

As for internet browsers. I use Firefox.

[AcesX1X]

if the x-men were to switch their nationality to atlantean, you wouldn't have legs to stand on skaddix.

[jarrod]

Fuck America. Every mutant should expatriate and join MI-13.

[Dolf334]

Maybe this has already been answered, but in the panel where Emma is cancelling her pedicure, who is the female in all black next to Piotr? Also, what is up with both Hope's and Idie's ass cracks showing up? Idie's right before Logan gives where gift, and Hope's on the panel where Logan, Scott, Hope, and Idie are all lookng at the screen? Thoughts?

[jarrod]

It's Psylocke in her wetsuit.

[vitruvian]

i'm pretty sure killer robots are now considered weapons of mass destruction? matt and jen don't need their licenses to draft indictments. they can bring their case to the world's court, where the united states has no jurisdiction.

also, they don't need to officially represent. vange still has her license to practice. also, cable gave sam guthrie a fake license to practice law, so he could even come on as "silent council." matt and jen could help them beef up their case tho.

Well, the international courts have their own standards for lawyers, but you're right that somebody other than Matt and Jen could be the actual trial lawyers. Still doesn't mean that the whole business wouldn't be likely to get quickly quashed, or that the US would be much inconvenienced even if an indictment or warrant was issued. They'd deny jurisdiction within the US, there's currently no international police force that could come into the country to arrest anybody, and the one that looks ready to be rebuilt is only going forward with US funding and a US director. Afraid it's a no-go unless somebody really felt it was worth starting WWIII over.

[Skaddix]

if the x-men were to switch their nationality to atlantean, you wouldn't have legs to stand on skaddix.

Their companies and banks would still be American.

[vitruvian]

if the x-men were to switch their nationality to atlantean, you wouldn't have legs to stand on skaddix.

If Utopia and Atlantis truly acted like close allies or a unified nation, and conducted their foreign relations and military affairs in concert, they would indeed be a superpower. However, Namor has been strangely reticent about making things that concrete so far, and in the absence of such unity, I don't think either is in that strong a position right now.

[wader0069]

There should be rules against people making crappy reviews like this. Seriously take the time next time to write a decent review please....

[vitruvian]

Fuck America. Every mutant should expatriate and join MI-13.

Or become the first immigrants to and official protectors of New Paris.

[AcesX1X]

Their companies and banks would still be American.

easy to run those companies in the ground, hire same staff under new jurisdiction, new name.

[Seresecros]

Fuck America. Every mutant should expatriate and join MI-13.

The Conservatives are in charge of Britain now. Faiza's been fired and no immigrants are allowed in. The X-Men should go to Russia.

[quillero]

easy to run those companies in the ground, hire same staff under new jurisdiction, new name.

We'll take them. Look at our President:

http://whatisthetrend.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Juan-Manuel-Santos.jpg

We clearly love mutants

[vitruvian]

Their companies and banks would still be American.

Isn't Worthington a multinational?

[Fused]

I found this review hilarious. I did read the book beforehand, though.

[Skaddix]

Isn't Worthington a multinational?

SO what its headquarters is still in the US.

[KusaSan]

WTH with this issue ? Since when Wolverine is saying that children should not wtach this ? And I'm the only one who is shocked by how fast everything happen ? Not a bad issue but there are a lot of weird thing : 6/10. I'm worried by what will happen next. For me Aaron will make Wolverine look good and Scott look bad. I really hope that I'll be wrong.

[KusaSan]

It's Psylocke in her wetsuit.

Monet no ?

[darknessatnoon]

Monet no ?

Monet isn't allowed on Utopia. Cyclops has an extradition treaty with France.

[quillero]

I wonder what KusaSan and his Hitler avatar think of all those countries having sentinels.

[CMBMOOL]

You have to admit in some sense that Wolverine is the cash cow of Marvel and that in some way he views on raising kids in a normal does sort of stems from the guilt he feels over not being able to raise either Daken or X-23 in a proper way.

So in a way his actions sort of stem from his guilt, as he does not want anyone else to feel how he feels now. :frown:

[darknessatnoon]

You have to admit in some sense that Wolverine is the cash cow of Marvel and that in some way he views on raising kids in a normal does sort of stems from the guilt he feels over not being able to raise either Daken or X-23 in a proper way.

So in a way his actions sort of stem from his guilt, as he does not want anyone else to feel how he feels now. :frown:

Why should he feel guilty about x-23? She was created to kill him.

[fortyseven]

There should be rules against people making crappy reviews like this. Seriously take the time next time to write a decent review please....

This was a better review than all the people who just write extremely detailed spoilers so that other posters don't have to go to the store and actually buy the comics.

[Filthy Mutie]

You have to admit in some sense that Wolverine is the cash cow of Marvel and that in some way he views on raising kids in a normal does sort of stems from the guilt he feels over not being able to raise either Daken or X-23 in a proper way.

So in a way his actions sort of stem from his guilt, as he does not want anyone else to feel how he feels now. :frown:

Would you like to talk about something, CMBMOOL?

[vitruvian]

SO what its headquarters is still in the US.

So what, multinationals have all kinds of ways to move cash and assets overseas. The headquarters is probably leased anyway.

[Skaddix]

So what, multinationals have all kinds of ways to move cash and assets overseas. The headquarters is probably leased anyway.

If the US Gov wants to freeze your assets they will freeze your assets.

[Rheged]

If Utopia and Atlantis truly acted like close allies or a unified nation, and conducted their foreign relations and military affairs in concert, they would indeed be a superpower. However, Namor has been strangely reticent about making things that concrete so far, and in the absence of such unity, I don't think either is in that strong a position right now.

Gee, I wonder WHY Namor would be reticent about making anything concrete with the X-Men, who just jot down to New Atlantis and STEAL their power sources without asking. Or are expected to defend the island against the vampires, Sentinels, Evolutionaries, and whoever else the X-Men have ticked off. And let's not forget this:

http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/carlaverock/xmgs001_int_lr_0004-5_crop.jpg

[AcesX1X]

lol! rheged, that's sugar water flowing out of those pipes. :wink:

[Skaddix]

Gee, I wonder WHY Namor would be reticent about making anything concrete with the X-Men, who just jot down to New Atlantis and STEAL their power sources without asking. Or are expected to defend the island against the vampires, Sentinels, Evolutionaries, and whoever else the X-Men have ticked off. And let's not forget this:

http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq300/carlaverock/xmgs001_int_lr_0004-5_crop.jpg

U see something America and Namor can agree.

Scott was right though its stuff like that which show he sucks at Foreign Policy.

[mikeb]

I wonder what KusaSan and his Hitler avatar think of all those countries having sentinels.

That's not Hitler.That is Charles De Gaulle (1890-1970),Leader of the Free French during WWII,Provisional President of France 1944-1946.President of France 1959-1969,Survivor of more than 35 assassination attempts...:tongue:

[darknessatnoon]

Do Atlanteans not shit?

[Bronze Badger]

Do Atlanteans not shit?

The real question isn't whether or not they shit but rather, do they try to eat the shit thinking it's food and then spit it out?

[AcesX1X]

they have advanced technology for that sort of stuff. these are the people who invented cloning when the white man was still crusading around the middle east, you know.

[darknessatnoon]

they have advanced technology for that sort of stuff. these are the people who invented cloning when the white man was still crusading around the middle east, you know.

The white man? Were Native Americans getting around on flying skateboards?

[AcesX1X]

no, the native americans were building vast cities and paved roads throughout central america.

[Rheged]

Do Atlanteans not shit?

I would imagine so. But they also seem to be much more aware of how they impact their environment. So, I don't think they feel dumping sewage is a solution to waste management.

[wader0069]

This was a better review than all the people who just write extremely detailed spoilers so that other posters don't have to go to the store and actually buy the comics.

I believe there is a one week rule before giving away those kind of spoilers. I am just tired of people not putting in the effort to write a decent review. This particular review was short, con jumbled and extremely biased.....

[darknessatnoon]

I would imagine so. But they also seem to be much more aware of how they impact their environment. So, I don't think they feel dumping sewage is a solution to waste management.

Well, it's not like they can light it on fire...

[Rheged]

The real question isn't whether or not they shit but rather, do they try to eat the shit thinking it's food and then spit it out?

Atlanteans aren't fish.

[Jake V]

The real question isn't whether or not they shit but rather, do they try to eat the shit thinking it's food and then spit it out?

They did until snickers bars were outlawed in Atlantis.

[AcesX1X]

dn@N can't support any society who doesn't have the ability to drink wine.

[mikeb]

no, the native americans were building vast cities and paved roads throughout central america.

yeah,until Cortes',Pizarro and Balboa came along...:frown:

[wader0069]

yeah,until Cortes',Pizarro and Balboa came along...:frown:

freakin' white people....

[AcesX1X]

yeah,until Cortes',Pizarro and Balboa came along...:frown:

can u believe those guys?

[darknessatnoon]

yeah,until Cortes',Pizarro and Balboa came along...:frown:

Those societies never got to reach their Mature Form :mad::frown:

[Bronze Badger]

Atlanteans aren't fish.

Stop being ridiculous.

[Jake V]

Those societies never got to reach their Mature Form :mad::frown:

Is there something you'd like to talk about, CMBMOOL?

[darknessatnoon]

Is there something you'd like to talk about, CMBMOOL?

Yeah, why won't Marvel let May Mayday Parker marry an Atlantean fish and them have a mutant spider-fish kid who joins the x-men :mad::mad::frown::frown:

[AcesX1X]

Atlanteans aren't fish.


Stop being ridiculous.

JAM sent me a wonderful article delving into all of humanity's origins as fish. i will have to dig it out.

[MartinRedmond]

Everything comes from the sea, it's how we grew arms, iirc.

[Rheged]

Yeah, why won't Marvel let May Mayday Parker marry an Atlantean fish and them have a mutant spider-fish kid who joins the x-men :mad::mad::frown::frown:

As a young girl, before she was an aunt, May had a HUGE crush on Namor. Canon.

[Rheged]

Stop being ridiculous.

You first.

[Rheged]

Well, it's not like they can light it on fire...

Or leave on it the door step.



dn@N can't support any society who doesn't have the ability to drink wine.

Atlanteans can drink wine. They just have to get out of the water to do so. :smile:

[quillero]

As a young girl, before she was an aunt, May had a HUGE crush on Namor. Canon.

He's not talking about the old hag. He means some obscure elseworld character so it's ok if you didn't get the reference.

[Rheged]

He's not talking about the old hag. He means some obscure elseworld character so it's ok if you didn't get the reference.

I haven't read any of her books, but I know who Spider-Girl is. She's Aunt May's grandniece. I don't think there are any X-Men in MC2, are there?

[darknessatnoon]

I haven't read any of her books, but I know who Spider-Girl is. She's Aunt May's grandniece. I don't think there are any X-Men in MC2, are there?

There are the X-People.

[CMBMOOL]

Why should he feel guilty about x-23? She was created to kill him.

Sorry for not saying this earlier, but what I meant was to recall Post X-force when Wolverine pulled X from the team and had to talk down to her to get the point across about how X-23 should be away from the destruction that they have brought. :frown:

[CMBMOOL]

I haven't read any of her books, but I know who Spider-Girl is. She's Aunt May's grandniece. I don't think there are any X-Men in MC2, are there?

There is Wolverine's biological daughter in the MC2, and her name is Wild Thing and her mother is Elektra. :tongue:

There is also the X-people, the X-men of the MC2 lead by Juliblee, and then there are random Cyclops cameos in some Spider-girl comics. :redface:

[Dudebro McTypo]

Having re-read the issue Quire seems to have a wee bit of a Heath Ledger's Joker streak to it

[Regino]

Everything comes from the sea, it's how we grew arms, iirc.

This is canon b/c Namor is the first mutant.

[AstonishingXMan]

The Sentinels die and Idie is killed. Wolverine finds the doll and because Cyclops didn't CHOOSE TO ACT when he could, Wolvie snaps and thus the rift in the team is born.

[Filthy Mutie]

Sorry for not saying this earlier, but what I meant was to recall Post X-force when Wolverine pulled X from the team and had to talk down to her to get the point across about how X-23 should be away from the destruction that they have brought. :frown:

I was sad when they tried to keep her away from her intended purpose, her reason for existing.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Review nonpareil, Prodigy55.

Was the appearance of Storm and her nagging effectively offset by the direct juxtaposition of the ineffective white doll in the scene prior?


Proof positive BP married a Stormbot.

[Nicoclaws]

I just have ONE question about this theory, but it's an important one.


If Doom has the real Storm, why on earth would he marry the inferior Wanda ?

[Jake V]

I just have ONE question about this theory, but it's an important one.


If Doom has the real Storm, why on earth would he marry the inferior Wanda ?

For her powers. Wanda could make even more Storms. A menage-a-storms.

[Psylocke1902]

So..
- Jus like GAGA, Emmy is a herm, check out the panel where they all watch Sentinels, can totes see a bulge under her panties
- Idie is totes bitch 4 calling out Kitty sleeping w/ Colossus when her costume & PJ are totes slutty
- Uh, Quire just show 'em the darkest secrets of the world leaders, I don't see why that is menacing and need sentinnels, ppl r just butthurt
- Wolvie finally upgrade to brief (jock?) from commando, gud job Merlita
- Great review, just short and the essentials, except 4 the unnecessary lies about Storm

[Nicoclaws]

So..
- Jus like GAGA, Emmy is a herm, check out the panel where they all watch Sentinels, can totes see a bulge under her panties
- Idie is totes bitch 4 calling out Kitty sleeping w/ Colossus when her costume & PJ are totes slutty
- Uh, Quire just show 'em the darkest secrets of the world leaders, I don't see why that is menacing and need sentinnels, ppl r just butthurt
- Wolvie finally upgrade to brief (jock?) from commando, gud job Merlita
- Great review, just short and the essentials, except 4 the unnecessary lies about Storm

How is it an upgrade ??

Yeah, the Quire thing was kinda lame... not even Wikileaks worthy secrets.

[Nite-Wing]

The Sentinels die and Idie is killed. Wolverine finds the doll and because Cyclops didn't CHOOSE TO ACT when he could, Wolvie snaps and thus the rift in the team is born.

A kid getting killed would be the perfect thing to set Wolverine off but this would have been the perfect opportunity to use Kurt's death(if he absolutely had to die).

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Serves me right for not checking on day one, lol.

Anyway, finally picked this up. Still no clear idea where the hell this thing is going, but a great read nonetheless and the art looked great.

Great first post, lol. Doesn't make any sense to anyone who hasn't read the thing, but aside from the Black Panther lie, this was ridiculously spot-on. Good job.

[jade_nova]

I don't understand this issue. Quentin Quire embarrasses people at an international conference and their response is to launch their Sentinels to destroy two hundred people. That strikes me as a bit of over kill and unnecessary.

[krisis]

I don't understand this issue. Quentin Quire embarrasses people at an international conference and their response is to launch their Sentinels to destroy two hundred people. That strikes me as a bit of over kill and unnecessary.

Thank you for summarizing my opinion in a nutshell.

[John Ossie]

I don't understand this issue. Quentin Quire embarrasses people at an international conference and their response is to launch their Sentinels to destroy two hundred people. That strikes me as a bit of over kill and unnecessary.

Quoted in agreement

[Skaddix]

I don't understand this issue. Quentin Quire embarrasses people at an international conference and their response is to launch their Sentinels to destroy two hundred people. That strikes me as a bit of over kill and unnecessary.

They did not launch to attack. They put them on the defensive in their capitols. Scott's going to launch the attack. Although still in overzealous response.

[quillero]

I don't understand this issue. Quentin Quire embarrasses people at an international conference and their response is to launch their Sentinels to destroy two hundred people. That strikes me as a bit of over kill and unnecessary.

Not at all. What Quentin did was way more scary than anything Magneto's ever done. He just walked in an effortlessly ripped a bunch of secrets out of world leaders. He threatened modern world's biggest and most dangerous asset:information. And he didn't even break a sweat. It was a reminder of how powerful and dangerous mutants are.


They did not launch to attack. They put them on the defensive in their capitols. Scott's going to launch the attack. Although still in overzealous response.

How is informing mutants to be prepared equal to launch an attack? Stop projecting your "I hate Scott Summers" fanfiction. Stick to what's on the page.

[Skaddix]

The previews have clearly shown the xmen beating sentinels Round the globe. How about u learn to read

[quillero]

Haven't seen those previews but they just might as well be a response on previous attack. How about you wait till it's published instead of just talking out of your ass.

[Skaddix]

Haven't seen those previews but they just might as well be a response on previous attack. How about you wait till it's published instead of just talking out of your ass.

An attack is still an attack, I did not say the X-men owning sentinels was uncalled for. I just noted that they will attack.

[quillero]

An attack is still an attack, I did not say the X-men owning sentinels was uncalled for. I just noted that they will attack.

You said they would attack first. It might happen. It might not.

[zaionay]

You aren't making sense.


i'm not making sense when your purposely leaving out the "shame" part. CLOTHING AND shame. i didn't say storm is simply ignorant of clothing. this isn't rocket science.


Shamelessly? So you're saying that Africans should be ashamed of their bodies? What kind if attitude is that?


i'm half african so no i wouldn't be saying that.nice try thou

[RLAAMJR.]

So is Storm really a doombot? since when?

[fortyseven]

i'm not making sense when your purposely leaving out the "shame" part. CLOTHING AND shame. i didn't say storm is simply ignorant of clothing. this isn't rocket science.

Storm was not ignorant of clothing and shame. She was ignorant of just shame.

[Arachne]

So is Storm really a doombot? since when?

The X-Office is aware of the Stormbot theory and was making a joke about it, that's all.

[Regino]

This was shaping up to be a really good issue . . . until the kid became the main villain. Everything is really well done initially. The art is good. The storyline is not herky-jerky or jokey; except for the Iceman appearance that was totally forced.

But the Kilgore is a step in the wrong direction. How can you take him seriously when he hasn't suffered? He's a spoiled brat kid, and that's uninteresting.

Poor Idie. She is going to die soon.

[ReaderX]

Yup, she's practically begging to be killed off. She already thinks of herself as an abomination and she will probably burn her powers out all at once as a sacrifice to atone for her sin of merely existing, or somesuch. The doll is just preparation, a last attempt to make us care about emo girl.

[worstblogever]

I just have ONE question about this theory, but it's an important one.


If Doom has the real Storm, why on earth would he marry the inferior Wanda ?

Dr. Doom has in canon harem fantasies, as revealed during the Cabal stories, where while he was talking to Namor, he fantasized about killing Norman Osborn, and then keeping Emma Frost and Loki(the lady one, at the time), chained to his throne, all scantily clad.

Any marriage to Wanda/Storm would just add to his list of concubines.

Ah Doom.

[Angevine]

The storyline is not herky-jerky or jokey; except for the Iceman appearance that was totally forced.

...

Poor Idie. She is going to die soon.

Idie, or Iceman. One of them. There's no point in having both around.

[worstblogever]

Idie, or Iceman. One of them. There's no point in having both around.

Iceman's near immortal, really. Even if you shatter him, he reforms eventually.

Idie doesn't have that advantage, and the fact that her thermal adjustment powers give her some pyrokinetic potential doesn't help. Flame-wielding mutants die A LOT. (Rusty Collins & Pyro being the most famous two).

I don't like Idie's chances of making it out of this alive. Which is a shame, I really like her character and the take on her powers. She makes much more sense to me than Laurie the flying mermaid girl.

[Skaddix]

So really people think they are just pushing Idie so they can kill her? That makes little sense.

Iceman is more likely.

[Nicoclaws]

Dr. Doom has in canon harem fantasies, as revealed during the Cabal stories, where while he was talking to Namor, he fantasized about killing Norman Osborn, and then keeping Emma Frost and Loki(the lady one, at the time), chained to his throne, all scantily clad.

Any marriage to Wanda/Storm would just add to his list of concubines.

Ah Doom.

Well anyway I concur with Dnan that Children's crusade is just gaywitch's fantasy. So the point is moot. Doomitch is less valide than Oromor.

[ExodusCloak]

So really people think they are just pushing Idie so they can kill her? That makes little sense.

Iceman is more likely.

If they were going to kill any of the lights it'd be Velocidad because he's terrible.

Iceman is going to die though,they started making him relevant. That is exactly how Nightcrawlers death went down.

[darknessatnoon]

Tough call. It seems perfectly clear from this first issue that it's Idie who will die, but given the massive scope of her power blasts I can see her being the one who blasts that Giant Sentinel we saw in the uncolored art preview for issue 5, where Wolverine and Cyclops are fighting on the beach. I can't think of an X-Man who has been seen to generate such a massive power blast. So if she does die (if my guess is correct), it wouldn't be until after the schism has taken place, and it really does seem here as if her death would be the trigger for the schism.

[Regino]

Remember when Claremont was like, "I wanna make Mr. Sinister a little kid." An the editors stopped him and everything was good. And then Claremont finally did it in XMF, and it wasn't that good. Well, history has repeated itself. Instead of making a cool villain, we get some little kid. Hopefully, he dies soon.

Iceman is not going to die. He has been the perfect character for the past couple years. Bobby has always stayed in the background and has been devoid of personality. Where the focus has been on Cyke, Wolvie, Mags, Emma and Namor, the wallpaper that is Bobby Drake has maintained his failed identity. They also won't kill him b/c no one would care. If Idie dies, people will say that she is just a kid and be sad. If bobby dies, people will merely shrug.

[Nite-Wing]

Remember when Claremont was like, "I wanna make Mr. Sinister a little kid." An the editors stopped him and everything was good. And then Claremont finally did it in XMF, and it wasn't that good. Well, history has repeated itself. Instead of making a cool villain, we get some little kid. Hopefully, he dies soon.

Iceman is not going to die. He has been the perfect character for the past couple years. Bobby has always stayed in the background and has been devoid of personality. Where the focus has been on Cyke, Wolvie, Mags, Emma and Namor, the wallpaper that is Bobby Drake has maintained his failed identity. They also won't kill him b/c no one would care. If Idie dies, people will say that she is just a kid and be sad. If bobby dies, people will merely shrug.

The villain is a little kid because it sets up an interesting contrast Wolverine is trying to keep the kids out of the fight even though they are actually fighting a little kid. Still this kid is the annoying type of villain people can just hate easily. The point is for you to want to see him dead imo

Iceman is as irrelevant as Nightcrawler was right before he died. It can happen to anyone

[Regino]

The villain is a little kid because it sets up an interesting contrast Wolverine is trying to keep the kids out of the fight even though they are actually fighting a little kid. Still this kid is the annoying type of villain people can just hate easily. The point is for you to want to see him dead imo

Iceman is as irrelevant as Nightcrawler was right before he died. It can happen to anyone

It might be interesting in theory, but I don't think it makes a compelling story. I don't even really want to see him dead. Preferably, Cyke spanks him and sends him back to school. I do want to see him written out, but not because he's evil. I want him dead and gone b/c kids are poor villains.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Tough call. It seems perfectly clear from this first issue that it's Idie who will die, but given the massive scope of her power blasts I can see her being the one who blasts that Giant Sentinel we saw in the uncolored art preview for issue 5, where Wolverine and Cyclops are fighting on the beach. I can't think of an X-Man who has been seen to generate such a massive power blast. So if she does die (if my guess is correct), it wouldn't be until after the schism has taken place, and it really does seem here as if her death would be the trigger for the schism.

Thought it would be Hope hijacking someone else's power and lecturing these two idiots for being such untimely homicidal dickheads.

[StormXPantherQueen]

just finish the issue, it was good, not great ,but good.

Stuff I Liked

1 if Ide is the new lil girl sidekick to logan than i'm pleasantly surprise and loving it.

2 hell fire club. yes been waiting a while for that one.

and sadly that's it.
i kinda like that even logan gets tired of being every where at all times.

and like the scene where Storm Tells Scott not to panic, it wasn't so much as about leadership advice but a diplomatic one.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Idie's death is imminent. She'll be weighed down by fatty, viscous Haagen Dazs coursing through her veins. Cue Logan' emotive response, and scene.

[Skaddix]

Idie's death is imminent. She'll be weighed down by fatty, viscous Haagen Dazs coursing through her veins. Cue Logan' emotive response, and scene.

I doubt it. Still Scott Summers getting more kids killed would hardly come as a shock. I am already cheering for Wolvie but that would take it over the top.

[Regino]

I doubt it. Still Scott Summers getting more kids killed would hardly come as a shock. I am already cheering for Wolvie but that would take it over the top.

Wolvie is so dumb it's hard to root for him. He thinks at a primal level. Logan has no clue what Scott, Mags, Emma and Namor are talking about.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

I doubt it. Still Scott Summers getting more kids killed would hardly come as a shock. I am already cheering for Wolvie but that would take it over the top.

How many, exactly? I'd like to hear it. :confused:


I am already cheering for Wolvie but that would take it over the top.

As opposed to 99,9% of your Cyclops-related posts? :tongue:

[beserkerclaw]

I rather no one died part of me thinks scott could i dont know why idie would except to reinforce logans position on kids dying in battle

[HopeLantern]

We know Wolverine likes young girls, is he setting Idie up to be his latest Kitty, Jubilee or Armor? Or is she going to die and make Wolverine sad and go all Schism-y on Cyclops ass?

You know, I had never thought of that before. It's pretty clear the man needs help.