Fables virgin

[joegeek]

So I finally plopped down some dough and grabbed about 98 issues of Fables and got the Last Castle TPB thrown in as well.


Are there any other Fable spin offs or tie ins I will need to get a "full grasp" if the happenings in the universe?


The only things I saw were some new Cinderella book and Jack of Fables.

[snarkbunny]

So I finally plopped down some dough and grabbed about 98 issues of Fables and got the Last Castle TPB thrown in as well.


Are there any other Fable spin offs or tie ins I will need to get a "full grasp" if the happenings in the universe?


The only things I saw were some new Cinderella book and Jack of Fables.

Hmmmm. 1001 Nights of Snowfall is about the only addition that may come close. It's not absolutely necessary but it tells pre-Fabletown stories about several of the major characters and the events within do impact from 56 on up to some degree. I think Willingham is decent at making sure the critical information is conveyed within Fables, but the full tales are in 1001 Nights. Plus the art in 1001 is fantastic.

Jack is pretty self-contained for the most part, as in Cinderella.

Have fun reading, let us know what you think.

[joegeek]

Thx, I will grab that 1001 Nights.


Let me ask you this. I have read both sides of the Jack of Fables argument about the merits of the run but I can get the entire run of 1-50 for around $47. Should I grab them just to read them. I mean I should have no problem getting my $ back if I do not like it or finish it and want to give someone else the pleasure.

[edhopper]

Thx, I will grab that 1001 Nights.


Let me ask you this. I have read both sides of the Jack of Fables argument about the merits of the run but I can get the entire run of 1-50 for around $47. Should I grab them just to read them. I mean I should have no problem getting my $ back if I do not like it or finish it and want to give someone else the pleasure.

Jack had a good start and might be worth reading through the Literals crossover. But ultimately it was a disappointing series.

[snarkbunny]

Thx, I will grab that 1001 Nights.


Let me ask you this. I have read both sides of the Jack of Fables argument about the merits of the run but I can get the entire run of 1-50 for around $47. Should I grab them just to read them. I mean I should have no problem getting my $ back if I do not like it or finish it and want to give someone else the pleasure.

I enjoyed the entire run, I thought it was a hoot but there was a tone change after the Crossover. I liked Jack Frost's pulpy adventures but I appear to be in the minority. Mostly JoF appeals to the dark side of me where Jack gets mangled on a regular basis, but be warned, Jack the character is very unlikeable.

[joegeek]

Would you say it us essential if I really line Fables?

I read that the great thing about Fables are the multiple characters instead of focusing on one.


Maybe like a Robin book to Batman?

[snarkbunny]

Would you say it us essential if I really line Fables?

I read that the great thing about Fables are the multiple characters instead of focusing on one.


Maybe like a Robin book to Batman?

Hmmmm - No, I wouldn't. It's a very different flavour than Fables. If you like the tone of Great Fables Crossover issues, then I think you will like Jack. If you like seeing Daffy Duck get abused and smacked around, then you might like Jack, too.

I would go for Peter and Max, the Fables novel and then Cinderella minis if you really like Fables, then Jack.

[joegeek]

Cool, thx a ton

[Adset]

Yeah, the first half of Jack is actually quite good, and probably worth the $47 alone. I thought the back end of the series went downhill, but some people think the quality was maintained throughout. So, you might actually end up enjoying the whole thing, and thus $47 would be a literal steal.

I'd agree that reading Jack isn't critical to enjoying Fables, but he does end up leaving the main book and his solo series picks up the 'what happens next'. It's a decent/sometimes really good companion series.

I thought Cinderella was rubbish. The first one, anyway. Haven't read the second yet. And I, too, would emphasize 1001's awesomeness.

[Samorai_black]

I would go for Peter and Max, the Fables novel and then Cinderella minis if you really like Fables, then Jack.

I agree to this order as well.

[joegeek]

Thanks guys

Here us the $ "my guy" quoted me and he mentioned he could try to get Peter and Max and Werewolves of t's Heartland, whatever that us.


Jack of Fables 1-50 $48
Cinderella Fabletown with Love 1-6 $4.50
Cinderella Fables are Forever 1-4 $4
1001 Nights of Snowfall TPB $8

[andybmcd]

Get Cinderella. Run away from Jack of Fables. It's got about 10 decent issues mixed in with the 50 and that's it. You'll most likely be wasting money.

[snarkbunny]

Thanks guys

Here us the $ "my guy" quoted me and he mentioned he could try to get Peter and Max and Werewolves of t's Heartland, whatever that us.
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Werewolves of the Heartland is the new original Fables graphic novel coming out later this year. It's set after issue 100 and before Issue 102. It's a Bigby adventure.

[ThePhenom]

Thanks guys

Here us the $ "my guy" quoted me and he mentioned he could try to get Peter and Max and Werewolves of t's Heartland, whatever that us.


Jack of Fables 1-50 $48
Cinderella Fabletown with Love 1-6 $4.50
Cinderella Fables are Forever 1-4 $4
1001 Nights of Snowfall TPB $8

That's a good deal.

Peter & Max is definitely non-essential and despite loving Fables I felt like it was a pretty poor novel and extension of the series in general.

[Samorai_black]

@snarkbunny

Since we dont have much talk about Fables here how are you enjoying the Superhero arc and the Cindy mini?

[joegeek]

How long do you guys see the Fables run lasting? It is just my luck that I will get deep into it they will stop the series.

[carabas]

Pretty much until Bill Willingham gets tired of it.

[snarkbunny]

How long do you guys see the Fables run lasting? It is just my luck that I will get deep into it they will stop the series.
Willingham said somewhere they have high level plotting for somewhere between 150-200 done, as in the creative team knows where they are going and they have ideas for what comes after.


@snarkbunny

Since we dont have much talk about Fables here how are you enjoying the Superhero arc and the Cindy mini?

Spoiler free chat - I'm enjoying both.

I don't talk a lot about the current arcs, because I find I almost inevitably get what it going to happen wrong (For example, 105 was happily not what I was figuring would happen), which is one of the things I really enjoy about Fables. So far, SuperTeam feels a lot like "Legends in Exile" or "Sons of Empire" where we are going to look back at it in context and be astounded at how much was set up in it.

I'm REALLY looking forward to getting back to Bufkin :)

The Cindy mini - It's a fun, frothy caper comic. I find it escapist in the good sense of the word. In a very weird way, it reminds me of the Penguins of Madagascar cartoons, where it's not deep but when it's over, I have a smile.

[Adset]

If nothing else, this thread has prompted me to want to re-read Cinderella. I admittedly did not care for it the first time around.

[DeeSnider]

I'm suprised that no one has addressed The Literals crossover. From your original post, it sounds like you picked up the single issues, not the trades. That means in addition to the stuff already mentioned, you might want to grab The Literals mini-series. Basically it's a three issue Fables event comic that crosses over with Jack and the main title. You really won't get the whole picture of what goes on in those Fables issues without the other crossover issues.

Personally, I found it to be the low point of the run, so you're safe completely skipping it, but if you really want the whole picture, or you decided to grab those JoF issues, you might as well pick it up.

[joegeek]

I'm suprised that no one has addressed The Literals crossover. From your original post, it sounds like you picked up the single issues, not the trades. That means in addition to the stuff already mentioned, you might want to grab The Literals mini-series. Basically it's a three issue Fables event comic that crosses over with Jack and the main title. You really won't get the whole picture of what goes on in those Fables issues without the other crossover issues.

Personally, I found it to be the low point of the run, so you're safe completely skipping it, but if you really want the whole picture, or you decided to grab those JoF issues, you might as well pick it up.


Here us what I have

Fables 1-104
Jack 1-50
Literals 1-3
1001 Nights TPB
Cinderella Fabletown 1-6
Cinderella Fables are Forever 1-3

I need Peter and Max still

[snarkbunny]

Here us what I have

Fables 1-104
Jack 1-50
Literals 1-3
1001 Nights TPB
Cinderella Fabletown 1-6
Cinderella Fables are Forever 1-3

I need Peter and Max still


So my recommended Reading order:

Fables 1-47 (End of Rodney and June)
1001 Nights of Snowfall
Fables 48-59
Jack of Fables 1-12 (End of the Vegas story)
Fables 60-82 (End of Dark Ages)
Jack of Fables 13-32? (up to the crossover)
Fables Crossover
Then Rest of Fables,
Rest of Jack,
Cinderella Fabletown 1-6 can be read anytime after 75.
Cinderella - Fables are forever is after 100.

[joegeek]

So my recommended Reading order:

Fables 1-47 (End of Rodney and June)
1001 Nights of Snowfall
Fables 48-59
Jack of Fables 1-12 (End of the Vegas story)
Fables 60-82 (End of Dark Ages)
Jack of Fables 13-32? (up to the crossover)
Fables Crossover
Then Rest of Fables,
Rest of Jack,
Cinderella Fabletown 1-6 can be read anytime after 75.
Cinderella - Fables are forever is after 100.


Wow, thanks for that. I cannot wait to dig in and take a break from Gotham.

[carabas]

Here us what I have

Fables 1-104
Jack 1-50
Literals 1-3
1001 Nights TPB
Cinderella Fabletown 1-6
Cinderella Fables are Forever 1-3

I need Peter and Max stillWhat I don't get is why you just didn't skip a whole lot of hassle (and ads) and bought the trades.

[VGChampion]

What I don't get is why you just didn't skip a whole lot of hassle (and ads) and bought the trades.

Or why he bought everything before reading. What if he doesn't like it?

[joegeek]

The trades would have cost $50 more than I spent.

[EddieO]

Jack of Fables is totally worth the read. Sure, the first half is better than the 2nd half.....but the 2nd half isn't bad, just not as good as the first. Sometimes stories are like that.....I thought the book got better towards the end....

The Cindarella Minis are fun......not needed for the story line really, but they are fun mystery action adventures....for $4 or whatever, you will get your money's worth.

Peter and Max, I liked it.....the few others who read it liked it, except for my wife....the book goddess (she has read over 2500 books, not counting comics). She disliked it....I thought it was a nifty story on an old tale.

Fables is fun and twisted way to look at stuff we grew up on. While Y:The Last Man got me into comics, Fables is my favorite.

Later EddieO

[joegeek]

Got 'em all now except Peter and Max.


I guess I will follow Snark's reading order.


I have read issues 1-4 of Fables and looooove it!

[snarkbunny]

Got 'em all now except Peter and Max.


I guess I will follow Snark's reading order.


I have read issues 1-4 of Fables and looooove it!

Have fun with them. I think they hang together quite well.

[EddieO]

Snarks reading order is right on the money....everything will flow together nicely.....

Later EddieO

[PhilipAMoore]

the best way to describe Jack versus fables is that fables is story about fairy tales Jack was a story about tall tails fables was about European princes and princesses and magic Jack was about the common folk in stories that were exaggerated and built on with characters like Paul Bunion and his blue ox Babe Jack was great series fables still is . Fables is one of those rare series that has not diminished in quality.

[carabas]

the best way to describe Jack versus fables is that fables is story about fairy tales Jack was a story about tall tails fables was about European princes and princesses and magic Jack was about the common folk in stories that were exaggerated and built on with characters like Paul Bunion and his blue ox BabeI see that very different.

"Fables" is a story about the further adventures of various fairy tale characters.
"Jack Of Fables" was at its core a metatextual story about fairy tales and what they are and represent.