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05-17-2011, 02:54 PM
New "New Mutants" writers Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning answer your emails about new directions, unresolved issues and untapped potential. Plus, exclusive art!


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=32370).

Pixie_Solanas
05-17-2011, 03:02 PM
It's telling that Steve Rogers has higher heels on his boots than the Nu Mutettes.

Skaddix
05-17-2011, 03:06 PM
My god that art. :eek:

Filthy Mutie
05-17-2011, 03:10 PM
I might buy a book called Dani Moonstar: Captain Native America.

Prodigy55
05-17-2011, 03:12 PM
I like the art. Good questions, disheartening answers. Sunspot as Lord Cardinal is one story I wouldn't mind being revisited.

Pixie_Solanas
05-17-2011, 03:15 PM
I like the art.

art was not my cup of tea.

AcesX1X
05-17-2011, 03:15 PM
steve rogers is positively livid in that preview.

Prodigy55
05-17-2011, 03:18 PM
He probably said something racist.

Aguja
05-17-2011, 03:18 PM
Glad to see Moonstar telling Captain America off. Look at him getting in her face reminding her of what the government did to her people. What a troll.

Pixie_Solanas
05-17-2011, 03:21 PM
Glad to see Moonstar telling Captain America off. Look at him getting in her face reminding her of what the government did to her people. What a troll.

Did she bring up the pox-ridden blankets?

Psistorm4472
05-17-2011, 03:26 PM
I have high hopes for the run of these two fine writers. BUT that art ... yeesh. Like was said before me, NOT my cup of tea at all.
And really, it's time to give the New Mutants their own costumes. The matchy-matchy outfits really stand out when every other X-person seems to have their own signature costume.

Imraith Nimphais
05-17-2011, 03:26 PM
My god that art. :eek:

I was interested in NM after Wells and then I saw the artwork prevs. No thank you.

...and Sugarman was the one of the few characters I absolutely hated in AOA...so that's a double negative.

Pixie_Solanas
05-17-2011, 03:27 PM
I hope Steve managed to contain his libido whilst being dressed down by Sacheen Littlefeather.

CMBMOOL
05-17-2011, 03:29 PM
Glad to see Moonstar telling Captain America off. Look at him getting in her face reminding her of what the government did to her people. What a troll.


I got to say, when it comes to People with authority, it seems like they set off something bad within Dani Moonstar. :frown:

Aguja
05-17-2011, 03:30 PM
Did she bring up the pox-ridden blankets?

Probably. It's well known Captain America rubbed small pox on his shield and threw it into numerous settlements.

AcesX1X
05-17-2011, 03:33 PM
I got to say, when it comes to People with authority, it seems like they set off something bad within Dani Moonstar. :frown:

dani has been racist against white people since her first appearance. she is indignant.

Leirus
05-17-2011, 03:33 PM
I think I cand of see what they are going for with the art. But they are most deffinetly not managing to pull it off.

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/r/risso_eduardo/risso_100bullets.jpg

Leandro Fernandez is also argentinian, right?

Prodigy55
05-17-2011, 03:35 PM
dani has been racist against white people since her first appearance. she is indignant.

it's not racist if it's against white people.

Skaddix
05-17-2011, 03:36 PM
Probably. It's well known Captain America rubbed small pox on his shield and threw it into numerous settlements.

Cap is not old enough although if there were Caps before him then they probably did.

AcesX1X
05-17-2011, 03:44 PM
not really sold on DNA just yet.... they called sunspot a "jokester." lol, since when??

Imraith Nimphais
05-17-2011, 03:46 PM
It is probably just me and my rather "specific" art aesthetic, but the X-books as a whole just seems to be all over the place artwise. They are trying out these "new" artists across the board but none of them seem to exactly fit the title they illustrate.

From X-Factor to Uncanny X-men...the artwork all looks and feels "phoned in" without any dynamism and visual impact and story-telling.

I am not saying these guys are talentless, they have talent and potential...they are just not very interesting, visually. Wotever happened to cutting edge visuals to go along with the cutting edge stories for which the X-Men franchise were known?

greyspawn
05-17-2011, 03:47 PM
Who is the blond female?

darknessatnoon
05-17-2011, 03:49 PM
Wotever happened to cutting edge visuals to go along with the cutting edge stories for which the X-Men franchise were known?

Wot do you mean wotever happened? These are cutting edge visuals. Aesthetically aware artists aren't about pleasing or servicing you.

darknessatnoon
05-17-2011, 03:50 PM
I think it's interesting that Steve Rogers has to ask Kitty Pryde's permission to speak with the New Mutants.

Leirus
05-17-2011, 03:52 PM
I think it's interesting that Steve Rogers has to ask Kitty Pryde's permission to speak with the New Mutants.

That is Kitty? Out of the buble and short haired? On the other hand, I do not know who else could she be. I wait eagerly the chance to see her trolling CA.

fod_xp
05-17-2011, 04:03 PM
That is Kitty? Out of the buble and short haired? On the other hand, I do not know who else could she be. I wait eagerly the chance to see her trolling CA.

Kitty's out of her bubble in that Fear Itself issue where Greg Land drew the macro hand crushing some of the X-Men. See the August Preview link in that thread.


I think it's interesting that Steve Rogers has to ask Kitty Pryde's permission to speak with the New Mutants.

Steve Rogers wasn't asking her for permission, he was berating her, Captain America is gay and doesn't respect women. He thinks and treats them like they're all housewives from the 50s.

greyspawn
05-17-2011, 04:17 PM
Kitty's out of her bubble in that Fear Itself issue where Greg Land drew the macro hand crushing some of the X-Men. See the August Preview link in that thread.



Steve Rogers wasn't asking her for permission, he was berating her, Captain America is gay and doesn't respect women. He thinks and treats them like they're all housewives from the 50s.

So Kitty has to babysit both the New Mutants and Generation Hope? I still don't know who the blond female is on one of the preview pages. I thought Magik was under house arrest?

Imraith Nimphais
05-17-2011, 04:20 PM
My guess would be Amara. But it is somewot difficult to tell because of the art.

fod_xp
05-17-2011, 04:21 PM
So Kitty has to babysit both the New Mutants and Generation Hope? I still don't know who the blond female is on one of the preview pages. I thought Magik was under house arrest?

Magma? A Cuckoo? Maybe Emma got some more plastic surgery to look younger.:tongue:

In all seriousness, I guess the identity of Blond-X will be revealed when New Mutants #25 hits the racks.

As for Kitty, They had Henry quit the X-Men, Emma is a pathetic shell of a housewife, Rogue is a complete **** up and Magneto's concubine, so I guess that leaves Kitty to take up the slack.

yanapryde
05-17-2011, 04:51 PM
Its not a female.The one talking with their back to the viewer.
Look at the following preview page.
Pay special attention to the short, whispy hair and compare it to the others in the group.
The coloring is a little...off, but I'm pretty sure, that X-person talking to Cap first.... is Doug.

sigh.:frown:

Pixie_Solanas
05-17-2011, 04:54 PM
I hope Doug is getting ripped a new fresh one.

Arachne
05-17-2011, 06:16 PM
That is Kitty? Out of the buble and short haired? On the other hand, I do not know who else could she be. I wait eagerly the chance to see her trolling CA.


Its not a female.The one talking with their back to the viewer.
Look at the following preview page.
Pay special attention to the short, whispy hair and compare it to the others in the group.
The coloring is a little...off, but I'm pretty sure, that X-person talking to Cap first.... is Doug.

sigh.:frown:

Yep, definitely Doug. The confusion says a lot about the artist, though.

I guess Cap doesn't want to let them investigate X-Man's last known whereabouts. Bastard.

And, yay! My questions got in. Two of them, anyway. Too bad they didn't get much of an answer, though I'm glad to read that the teams relationship with Magneto will be addressed. The others were about what makes Nate interesting and whether the team would get sidelined in their own book again.

theXfactor
05-17-2011, 06:39 PM
The art looks really bad, imo. I hope Fernandez doesn't return after the FI arc.

Regino
05-17-2011, 07:39 PM
Dani Moonstar and Cap are the new power couple.

The_Greatest_Username
05-17-2011, 08:37 PM
I hope Magma actually talks now that DnA are taking over.

Zombie Uatu
05-18-2011, 05:15 AM
Love how the graffiti just openly says "sex" in that one panel. *roll eyes*

Art looks pretty good to me, I don't know what you're all complaining about.

yanapryde
05-18-2011, 05:27 AM
Love how the graffiti just openly says "sex" in that one panel. *roll eyes*

Art looks pretty good to me, I don't know what you're all complaining about.

I believe the complaints stem from uncertainty as to who Captain America was talking to in the first image: Doug or Kitty. A man. Or a woman. This is not a common occurrence in comics. Discerning male from female.

Granted, these pages are unlettered, so the context of their exchange is still unknown, but I'd also like to point out that in the preview page following that, Sunspot's and Magma's facial expressions both give the viewer the impression they've either just soiled themselves or haven't taken their necessary meds yet.

But artistic preference is relative.

Swashbuckler
05-18-2011, 05:32 AM
Captain America is probably telling them all not to waste their time on a piece of garbage like Nate.

BLACKWINGS
05-18-2011, 07:23 AM
Sugar Man.
X-Man.
Blink.
New Mutants.

I'm sold - but my flippin' goodness that art is bad. With so many awesome things happening to this title, I guess I should of assumed there had to at least be one drawback. Sugar Man, X-Man, and Blink are finally returning - but its so disappointing that they won't have a good enough artist to do them justice.

IN-A-SYNCH
05-18-2011, 07:30 AM
Sugar Man looks stupid but he always has.

Filthy Mutie
05-18-2011, 07:34 AM
Regardless of content in the book, the artist's style is simply not at all for me. It's like the art style during Generation Hope's kick-off--it takes me a bit out of the book.

BLACKWINGS
05-18-2011, 07:36 AM
Sugar Man looks stupid but he always has.

Correction : Stupidly Awesome

IN-A-SYNCH
05-18-2011, 07:37 AM
Correction : Stupidly Awesome


Ok we could roll with that lmao!!!!!

ian33407
05-18-2011, 07:40 AM
It is probably just me and my rather "specific" art aesthetic, but the X-books as a whole just seems to be all over the place artwise. They are trying out these "new" artists across the board but none of them seem to exactly fit the title they illustrate.

From X-Factor to Uncanny X-men...the artwork all looks and feels "phoned in" without any dynamism and visual impact and story-telling.

I am not saying these guys are talentless, they have talent and potential...they are just not very interesting, visually. Wotever happened to cutting edge visuals to go along with the cutting edge stories for which the X-Men franchise were known?

I agree a lot with that (and please don't pay attention to the inquisitors on these boards), I would even call the art kinda "neutral", "indicial" (except for X-Factor) and it's like the art-team is defining what will be an A-List Title or not. Why not Mike Deodato onto NW ? Tom Cokker ?

I know it's also a "reader-friendly" decision but I'd like more identity some books, just to make them more distinctive from each others.

BLACKWINGS
05-18-2011, 07:55 AM
Regardless of content in the book, the artist's style is simply not at all for me. It's like the art style during Generation Hope's kick-off--it takes me a bit out of the book.

Maybe "underwhelming" is the better word for it, but I guess I just expected a little more. This is sort of a new beginning for this title. New writers. New direction. New roster. So I would assume that they would want to make a lasting impression with the introduction of this pseudo-new beginning. But this art just leaves a lackluster quality mark all over it.

I'm still stoked about this series. I love Sugar Man, X-Man, and Blink - and they are returning. I love all of the New Mutants, especially Warlock and Cypher - and they are staying (though I'm saddened by Cannonball). So I have plenty to be thrilled about - but art is a major turn-on or turn-off for me when it concerns comics. Bad art can completely ruin a story for me, no matter how good the story is.

Swashbuckler
05-18-2011, 08:14 AM
I'm not bothered by this art at all. I think it's perfectly fine for New Mutants.

Scavenger
05-19-2011, 11:19 PM
I hope Magma actually talks now that DnA are taking over.

She talked...not like any version of Magma I ever read, but speech bubbles were pointed to her

The Lucky One
05-20-2011, 07:19 AM
I think it's interesting that Steve Rogers has to ask Kitty Pryde's permission to speak with the New Mutants.

It is nice of Dani to throw Kitty a bone by letting her be team secretary/gatekeeper. After how rude Kitty was to the Muties at first, that really speaks well of Dani's character. Well done, Mr. and Mrs. Moonstar.

-D

AcesX1X
05-20-2011, 07:21 AM
lol @ dani ranking anywhere over kitty's authority.

yanapryde
05-20-2011, 07:24 AM
It is nice of Dani to throw Kitty a bone by letting her be team secretary/gatekeeper. After how rude Kitty was to the Muties at first, that really speaks well of Dani's character. Well done, Mr. and Mrs. Moonstar.

-D

But TLO(!)...that's not Kitty! Its Douglas.

The Lucky One
05-20-2011, 08:14 AM
lol @ dani ranking anywhere over kitty's authority.

Don't blame me, just because Kitty's toting around an iPad filled with stuff like this:


Ms. Moonstar's Schedule - Monday, May 23

9:00-9:30 - Breakfast. Anole's arm, sauteed well, with scrambled eggs and hot sauce
***NOTE: Ms. Moonstar eats only "Thermonuclear XXX" hot sauce. Medium or mild is for "wimps, commies and girls."***

9:30-1:00 - Rescue mid-'90s characters from obscurity

1:30-1:35 - Kick Hope in crotch. (Note: "Haw!")

2:00-3:00 - 1-on-1 meeting with Mr. Ramsey. Contents unknown; Ms. Moonstar says she'll tell me "when older."

[i]3:00-5:00 - Workout


And so on.

-D

yanapryde
05-20-2011, 08:16 AM
Don't blame me, just because Kitty's toting around an iPad filled with stuff like this:


Ms. Moonstar's Schedule - Monday, May 23

9:00-9:30 - Breakfast. Anole's arm, sauteed well, with scrambled eggs and hot sauce
***NOTE: Ms. Moonstar eats only "Thermonuclear XXX" hot sauce. Medium or mild is for "wimps, commies and girls."***

9:30-1:00 - Rescue mid-'90s characters from obscurity

1:30-1:35 - Kick Hope in crotch. (Note: "Haw!")

2:00-3:00 - 1-on-1 meeting with Mr. Ramsey. Contents unknown; Ms. Moonstar says she'll tell me "when older."

[i]3:00-5:00 - Workout


And so on.

-D

You are SO my favorite poster. ha ha ha

infernohara
05-20-2011, 08:30 AM
Don't blame me, just because Kitty's toting around an iPad filled with stuff like this:


Ms. Moonstar's Schedule - Monday, May 23

9:00-9:30 - Breakfast. Anole's arm, sauteed well, with scrambled eggs and hot sauce
***NOTE: Ms. Moonstar eats only "Thermonuclear XXX" hot sauce. Medium or mild is for "wimps, commies and girls."***

9:30-1:00 - Rescue mid-'90s characters from obscurity

1:30-1:35 - Kick Hope in crotch. (Note: "Haw!")

2:00-3:00 - 1-on-1 meeting with Mr. Ramsey. Contents unknown; Ms. Moonstar says she'll tell me "when older."

[i]3:00-5:00 - Workout


And so on.

-D

LOL. Hot session with Sam around 8 p.m. I assume?

This book is gonna be fire. I really can't wait to see what happens to this group.

Prodigy55
05-20-2011, 10:24 AM
Danielle Moonstar is a vegetarian. Also she'd never do anything with Ramsey. He's a wimp.

Pixie_Solanas
05-20-2011, 10:25 AM
Danielle Moonstar is a vegetarian. Also she'd never do anything with Ramsey. He's a wimp.

Those birthing hips are MAIZE-fortified.

AcesX1X
05-20-2011, 10:27 AM
Those birthing hips are MAIZE-fortified.

rice and beans, too, never forget.

Prodigy55
05-20-2011, 10:27 AM
She doesn't have hips/ass/tits. She is superthin.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/49693-4604-64544-1-x-force_super.jpg

Swashbuckler
05-20-2011, 10:28 AM
Is Moonstar really a vegetarian?

Pixie_Solanas
05-20-2011, 10:30 AM
She doesn't have hips/ass/tits. She is superthin.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/49693-4604-64544-1-x-force_super.jpg

What a god****ed sellout. She's not leaving the res, she's been EVICTED.

jarrod
05-20-2011, 10:31 AM
She doesn't have hips/ass/tits. She is superthin.

She let herself go after being Flatscanned. Don't make me post those Kubert/Dodson covers!

Prodigy55
05-20-2011, 10:32 AM
Is Moonstar really a vegetarian?

Yeah, she said so in X-Force 71.


She let herself go after being Flatscanned. Don't make me post those Kubert/Dodson covers!

Lol, nobody gets her anymore. Miss u Pollina.

Swashbuckler
05-20-2011, 10:33 AM
She must think Wolfsbane is super gross then for eating her dad. Then again, who doesn't think Wolfsbane is super gross.

jarrod
05-20-2011, 10:33 AM
Lol, nobody gets her anymore. Miss u Pollina.
Okay, seriously, why isn't Pollina drawing Uncanny or Legacy right now?

Prodigy55
05-20-2011, 10:36 AM
She must think Wolfsbane is super gross then for eating her dad. Then again, who doesn't think Wolfsbane is super gross.

It's okay for a wolf to eat meat.


Okay, seriously, why isn't Pollina drawing Uncanny or Legacy right now?

RIght?? Has he done any X-book the Angel mini? Pollina/Carey on Roadtrip v2.

jarrod
05-20-2011, 10:38 AM
RIght?? Has he done any X-book the Angel mini? Pollina/Carey on Roadtrip v2.
Pollina on the Spacetrip would've been amazing. I bet he'd even make Korvus hott.

AcesX1X
05-20-2011, 10:40 AM
all it would take is pollina to get me to buy this title again.

jarrod
05-20-2011, 10:46 AM
I'd do Pollina too.


http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/1168621-adam_pollina_super.png

fod_xp
05-20-2011, 10:48 AM
I'd do Pollina too.


http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/33806/1168621-adam_pollina_super.png

Wow, he's good looking. You have exquisite taste in artists jarrod.

The Lucky One
05-20-2011, 11:30 AM
Danielle Moonstar is a vegetarian. Also she'd never do anything with Ramsey. He's a wimp.

You just said two contradictory things. Is she a vegetarian, or does she not like wimps? Make up your damn mind.

-D

The Lucky One
05-20-2011, 11:32 AM
Danielle Moonstar is a vegetarian. Also she'd never do anything with Ramsey. He's a wimp.

Also, I'm calling BS. She dated Justin Pierce, she does too like wimps. That's canon.

-D

Prodigy55
05-20-2011, 11:45 AM
Justin Pierce is a fearless FBI agent. And he doesn't need some dumb Sage knockoff powers to be useful. Deal.

jarrod
05-20-2011, 11:51 AM
I have to admit, I'd prefer Dani/Doug to Dani/Sam at least...

Swashbuckler
05-20-2011, 12:32 PM
Dani/Feral please. Their foreplay during Necrosha was hot and unforgettable.

Norj
05-20-2011, 12:34 PM
You just said two contradictory things. Is she a vegetarian, or does she not like wimps? Make up your damn mind.

-D

Are you saying vegetarians are wimps:frown:

The Lucky One
05-20-2011, 12:35 PM
Justin Pierce is a fearless FBI agent. And he doesn't need some dumb Sage knockoff powers to be useful. Deal.

One has a gun and can't do anything; one has his brain and saves every mutant on Earth.

"Deal," indeed.

-D

jarrod
05-20-2011, 12:55 PM
Dani/Feral please. Their foreplay during Necrosha was hot and unforgettable.
lol. Is Feral doomed to always be a Rahne rebound? ;)

Norj
05-20-2011, 12:57 PM
She's easier to train

AcesX1X
05-20-2011, 12:57 PM
as filthy mutie has pointed out, there is no canon evidence that doug ramsey has any sort of superior "brain" outside of the benefits of his very questionable x-gene ability.

jarrod
05-20-2011, 12:59 PM
as filthy mutie has pointed out, there is no canon evidence that doug ramsey has any sort of superior "brain" outside of the benefits of his very questionable x-gene ability.
He was however a gifted dancer.

Norj
05-20-2011, 01:00 PM
Math is a language that we use to understand the universe thus Doug understands everything.

Pixie_Solanas
05-20-2011, 01:03 PM
He was however a gifted dancer.

Him and Warlock do a sensual paso doble.

AcesX1X
05-20-2011, 01:24 PM
bucket list for new mutant janitorial squad:

penance
threnody
pulse
shola inkosi
skids
gaia

Prodigy55
05-20-2011, 02:09 PM
lol, are all cypher fans delusional?

Apathy Lad
05-20-2011, 02:42 PM
Cypher has fans?

darknessatnoon
05-20-2011, 02:43 PM
Cypher has fans?

Yes. Ex Sage fans driven off by Diana Fox.

Aguja
05-20-2011, 02:53 PM
lol Gaia. Is she even alive?

AcesX1X
05-20-2011, 03:02 PM
lol Gaia. Is she even alive?

sounds like a mystery for dani and x-cleaners!

Aguja
05-20-2011, 03:03 PM
sounds like a mystery for dani and x-cleaners!

She does have the potential to reverse M day if she's still powered.

The Lucky One
05-20-2011, 03:56 PM
lol, are all cypher fans delusional?

You're writing on a message board that doesn't physically exist, to people using names that aren't theirs, about characters who aren't real, with powers that are physically impossible.

If you're not delusional, you're here by accident.

-D

Peter F.
05-20-2011, 11:50 PM
One has a gun and can't do anything; one has his brain and saves every mutant on Earth.

"Deal," indeed.

-D

That stopped being impressive years ago. There are only like 200 mutants left. If Bastion had just dropped a big bomb in the dome during Second Coming we'd be reading about Sentinels right now instead.

c.lei
05-21-2011, 05:08 AM
Yeah, she said so in X-Force 71.



Lol, nobody gets her anymore. Miss u Pollina.

You're the only one. Bleh.

GambitXRemy
05-21-2011, 08:01 AM
She let herself go after being Flatscanned. Don't make me post those Kubert/Dodson covers!

post them post them