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thecrimson
05-11-2011, 03:05 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kz41n4gY-6I/StKapZ-WtnI/AAAAAAAAD9o/5tZ1AuHlvoY/s320/Ultimate+Comics+Spider-Man+%233+1.jpg

And the page before it.

I know it's been awhile since this issue, but I was rereading them and I wanted to see what opinions you guys had on the matter. I didn't know about CBR when I originally reading it, so I never got a chance to ask.

I'll just say that I'm on Peter's side.

Sinx
05-11-2011, 03:16 PM
Any way you can post a bigger picture?

thecrimson
05-11-2011, 03:19 PM
Any way you can post a bigger picture?

I actually had trouble finding this picture, so I don't know.

I'll look for a bigger pic.

wyokid
05-11-2011, 03:26 PM
I actually had trouble finding this picture, so I don't know.

I'll look for a bigger pic.

I'll post links to both pages! My scanner is a beast! and in case you were wondering what I do with my comics is I buy them and then my friend, who's dad has this really expensive scanner, scans them in so I can read them on my iPhone! It's pretty nice! :cool:

thecrimson
05-11-2011, 03:33 PM
I'll post links to both pages! My scanner is a beast! and in case you were wondering what I do with my comics is I buy them and then my friend, who's dad has this really expensive scanner, scans them in so I can read them on my iPhone! It's pretty nice! :cool:

Thanks wyokid! You're the best!

And that sounds awesome using them on the iPhone.

wyokid
05-11-2011, 03:46 PM
Thanks wyokid! You're the best!

And that sounds awesome using them on the iPhone.

It's what I do :cool:

They're kinda big so I linked them to save space!

Page 9 (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg136/Wyokid/ultimate_spiderman_3_009.jpg)

Page 10 (http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg136/Wyokid/ultimate_spiderman_3_010.jpg)

Sinx
05-11-2011, 04:05 PM
I think that Peter's in the clear here. MJ broke up with him in the first place. That means that he's a free man! MJ has no right to be mad at him. She can't expect to break up with him and then he goes celibate for the rest of his life. I think "Queen of Crazytown" was pretty accurate.

Don Yoyo
05-11-2011, 05:45 PM
What I find hilarious and sad is that MJ is berating him for throwing himself at Gwen as soon as they broke up, yet saw nothing wrong when Peter came to her for comfort... the very same night he broke up with Gwen :frown: . I mean, what the hell?

wyokid
05-11-2011, 05:50 PM
"I didn't do anything to you" is the line that got me...I vote MJ

Joseph C.
05-11-2011, 06:56 PM
Sure, it might have been bad timing, but it shouldn't have been MJ's business anyways. She dumped him and Gwen was there to cheer him up. It wasn't like they had a thing going behind MJ's back while they were still dating. The fact that this happened though was a huge sign that MJ wasn't over him as we all know now.

Samorai_black
05-11-2011, 08:57 PM
Im with Peter. MJ broke up with Peter? For what? She was so pissed when Peter was dating the much cooler and superpowered Kitty and in the end Peter proved that he loved MJ so I dotn see why she broke up with him.

I dont what to know the reason because nothing anyone could ever with would make work in my head.

Minerboh
05-12-2011, 10:40 AM
I do not recall reading anywhere that Peter must be the victim of MJ's constant inability to take a solid decision!
I am glad that Peter finally decided to pay back for once!

John Zaleski
05-12-2011, 11:27 AM
peter no contest

thecrimson
05-12-2011, 11:36 AM
peter no contest

Definitely.

Btw, do you think your avatar could cause seizures?

John Zaleski
05-12-2011, 12:04 PM
Definitely.

Btw, do you think your avatar could cause seizures?

its the spidey McEpilepsy mobile!!

thecrimson
05-12-2011, 12:07 PM
its the spidey McEpilepsy mobile!!

Haha, nice one.:biggrin:

Balfro
05-12-2011, 12:10 PM
Considering Peter waited months he's more than clear. This is Highschool relationships we're talking about (1 week on, 1 week on, drama, 2 weeks on, 3 days off, drama, drama, drama, girl experiments, drama, 3 weeks on, drama, etc, etc.) So Peter was being more than kind enough to wait as long as he did. Besides, she broke up with him so she loses all credibility right there.

This is why I liked Peter with Kitty. As much as I like MJ as a character, she comes across as kind of a drama queen at times. I mean she hated Gwen for so long before they finally became friends and Gwen didn't do anything. MJ was just being catty, and despite what girls think that is a major turn-off. Kudos to Peter for even putting up with her let alone giving her 3 chances! Must be the red hair :cool:

Agemoi
05-12-2011, 12:39 PM
Considering Peter waited months he's more than clear. This is Highschool relationships we're talking about (1 week on, 1 week on, drama, 2 weeks on, 3 days off, drama, drama, drama, girl experiments, drama, 3 weeks on, drama, etc, etc.) So Peter was being more than kind enough to wait as long as he did. Besides, she broke up with him so she loses all credibility right there.

This is why I liked Peter with Kitty. As much as I like MJ as a character, she comes across as kind of a drama queen at times. I mean she hated Gwen for so long before they finally became friends and Gwen didn't do anything. MJ was just being catty, and despite what girls think that is a major turn-off. Kudos to Peter for even putting up with her let alone giving her 3 chances! Must be the red hair :cool:

Well you know what they say about carpets, drapes and the like... that, uh, hmm, er, you need them to decorate the room? Hence the carpet matching the drapes? Never understood that one...

ANYWAY!

Well re-reading the ultimate spider-man stuff Kitty was, literally, more catty than MJ ever was. She was constantly paranoid that Peter was mad, or going to break-up with her, and after the whole thing with Morbius she just went APE-SHIT, which MJ never did. I loved the idea of Pete and Kitty, but actually looking back? It was never going to work, which is too bad. Maybe Kitty gets with Jimmy? I kinda like the emotional signicance there.

But Peter is in love with MJ which is why he waited so long. No matter what happens he believes they'll end up together. MJ obviously didnt tell him why or give him a decent reason.. my guess? After ultimatum she thought Pete was dead and had grief sex with another man!!! :eek: But then Pete comes back and blah blah... im sure it wasnt THAT, though... or maybe it was... women are schemey like that... :biggrin:

OrpheusTelos
05-12-2011, 01:33 PM
Peter, it's not even much of a debate. MJ was being one of those "Sitcom Girlfriends" where she was expecting Pete to remain at her beck and call and stay faithful even though she was the one who dumped him.

Balfro
05-12-2011, 01:50 PM
my guess? After ultimatum she thought Pete was dead and had grief sex with another man!!! :eek: But then Pete comes back and blah blah... im sure it wasnt THAT, though... or maybe it was... women are schemey like that... :biggrin:

I doubt she slept with someone else. Remember the Annual about them getting intimate and she was acting distant and getting mad at him because she assumed he would break up with her for not sleeping with him? (Again, she shows her dramatic teen girl side... so you know what? Bendis got it right, lol.) Anyway I really don't think she would have done all that and then just gone and slept with someone else after he "died". But who knows, grief can make people do weird things.

I always just chalked it up to the first time they broke up and she left him because of all the danger surrounding his Spidey life. She probably realized how she felt thinking he was dead and didn't want that to be in her life anymore, especially knowing that he could die for real one day. HINT HINT notice how they get back together right before he really does die? She's gonna wish she stuck with her inkling...

Dexter Fletcher
05-12-2011, 01:50 PM
Im with Peter. MJ broke up with Peter? For what? She was so pissed when Peter was dating the much cooler and superpowered Kitty and in the end Peter proved that he loved MJ so I dotn see why she broke up with him.

It's never been properly explained why they broke up again, it was just a shock tactic to sell the book. I don't think Bendis knew where he was going with it either, hence why Peter and Gwen did a big load of nothing before MJ got back with him.

I just put it down to the fact there both young and young people make dumb decisions sometimes. My wife broke up with me five times in our history together (known her since childhood)

Agemoi
05-12-2011, 02:02 PM
I doubt she slept with someone else. Remember the Annual about them getting intimate and she was acting distant and getting mad at him because she assumed he would break up with her for not sleeping with him? (Again, she shows her dramatic teen girl side... so you know what? Bendis got it right, lol.) Anyway I really don't think she would have done all that and then just gone and slept with someone else after he "died". But who knows, grief can make people do weird things.

I always just chalked it up to the first time they broke up and she left him because of all the danger surrounding his Spidey life. She probably realized how she felt thinking he was dead and didn't want that to be in her life anymore, especially knowing that he could die for real one day. HINT HINT notice how they get back together right before he really does die? She's gonna wish she stuck with her inkling...

Oh i know, im just being a stinker lol The annual definitely showed they both wanted it and how they were dealing with it. I was just going to the extreme of grief that MJ's thinking could've been "omg now I'll never be able to be with him!" as she continues to, well, cry and screw... to put it frankly and bluntly of course, so please excuse me there!

I figured she couldnt take the worrying with him being dead or alive every week so she cut him off again after such a close call. But i cant help but thinking she ran to Mark Raxton for some "comfort." It happens. Wedding crashers? Going to funerals? Yeah. Its dark, but its happens. ANYWAY lol Im just stirring up shit so dont mind me

Balfro
05-12-2011, 02:12 PM
Oh i know, im just being a stinker lol The annual definitely showed they both wanted it and how they were dealing with it. I was just going to the extreme of grief that MJ's thinking could've been "omg now I'll never be able to be with him!" as she continues to, well, cry and screw... to put it frankly and bluntly of course, so please excuse me there!

I figured she couldnt take the worrying with him being dead or alive every week so she cut him off again after such a close call. But i cant help but thinking she ran to Mark Raxton for some "comfort." It happens. Wedding crashers? Going to funerals? Yeah. Its dark, but its happens. ANYWAY lol Im just stirring up shit so dont mind me

Who's Mark Raxton again? Is that Molten Man? I forget what his deal in the UU is.

HolySock
05-12-2011, 02:24 PM
He's the lead singer of the band "Molten Man".

Balfro
05-12-2011, 02:31 PM
He's the lead singer of the band "Molten Man".

Is that what his Ultimate appearance was? That's actually quite brilliant! I love it when certain Ultimaizations aren't just a reimaging of a character but them being reinterpreted altogether. Like how Banshee is a drug in the UU and not a character who screams as a super-power.

Jer
05-12-2011, 03:29 PM
It's pretty easy to see that MJ is just upset because Peter was able to move on and she hadn't yet. That's all that was.

Wolverine12
05-12-2011, 03:39 PM
Peter was right, any dude that sides with MJ needs to turn in his man card (looks at wyokid and holds out hand).

wyokid
05-12-2011, 08:56 PM
Peter was right, any dude that sides with MJ needs to turn in his man card (looks at wyokid and holds out hand).

You guys got man cards??? :eek:

Chris200
05-12-2011, 11:31 PM
You guys got man cards??? :eek:

Every dude has a man card

Wolverine12
05-13-2011, 12:40 AM
You guys got man cards??? :eek:

Lol sometime you crack my shit up man.:biggrin:

Jer
05-13-2011, 08:17 AM
You guys got man cards??? :eek:
We didn't lose them when we were like five. Unlike you.

Joseph C.
05-15-2011, 10:19 AM
Has anyone else noticed the roles of MJ and Gwen were reversed for the Ultimate Universe? In 616 MJ is a party girl, and Gwen is the sweet and innocent one but in the Ultimate Universe MJ is a the nice one and Gwen is a kinda punk rocker chick.

wyokid
05-15-2011, 12:00 PM
We didn't lose them when we were like five. Unlike you.

Well then I only have one thing to say to that!

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/181/punish.jpg


Has anyone else noticed the roles of MJ and Gwen were reversed for the Ultimate Universe? In 616 MJ is a party girl, and Gwen is the sweet and innocent one but in the Ultimate Universe MJ is a the nice one and Gwen is a kinda punk rocker chick.

oh! oh! I did! I did! and I loved it too! :evilsmile:

Agemoi
05-15-2011, 02:19 PM
oh! oh! I did! I did! and I loved it too! :evilsmile:

Lol, that deserves an "amen!" I liked that too. It kinda helped downplay a good guy going for a "bad girl," so to speak. Then again, we've been shown that MJ has that side and could potentially grow into it..

Either way, I just love these characters. I really would be interested in seeing how they grow up and what they're like. I wonder what Bendis could do with that?

Eh, I'll just enjoy what we have lol