Official new 'Superman Returns' movie news!

[Sheldon]

This is so cool!!!!!!
That theme to me is so linked with superman its going to fantastic.

Singer also confirms the Brandon Routh casting news.
I can't wait!

Check it out here (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=18653)

[cmdrbond007]

I'm shocked that he's not using John Ottman.

[Tuan]

Man, this is looking good. They have a director that's competent. An actor who looks like Superman. Now John Williams? Cool indeed.

[Sheldon]

Yes very cool! Whenever I read a great superman story I always hear that theme play in my head.

[Phoney Bone]

>sniff-sniff<

News like this reafirms my faith in America.


(Americuh... ****-YEAH!!!)

[Predator]

Well of course the John Williams theme will be used! To use anything else would be blasphemy to the nth degree!

[Will.S]

Yeah, I'm VERY glad they kept the theme. It's a brilliant one that should be used for all the Superman movies the way the Star Wars themes are. It's equally on par with that one.

[We R. Venom]

its not looking good, the "new superman" looks younger than tom welling. its rediculous.

[olympichero62]

who the F!@K is brandon routh? Is he the next ashton kutcher or something. farmboy from idaho?

[Crowley]

I photoshopped Routh into the suit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/BCrowley/random/NEW-SUPERMAN.jpg

I gave him blue eyes too. I think he looks good.

[Will.S]

its not looking good, the "new superman" looks younger than tom welling. its rediculous.Well Tom Welling looks too old for a 17 year old kid. The dude is like 27 or something, so if you can give him leeway for that I think you can give Brandon the benfit of the doubt.

I'll give him a chance, the dude has a somewhat resemblance to Reeve actually. I think he'll be able to pull it off.

[Tuan]

I photoshopped Routh into the suit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/BCrowley/random/NEW-SUPERMAN.jpg

I gave him blue eyes too. I think he looks good.
That's very good photoshopping. Now I'm more convinced than ever. Where'd you get that pic?

All the pics I've seen from this guy were on his site and 5 years old. I could only imagine how he looks now.

And his site is STILL down.

Sigh.

[Tuan]

Well Tom Welling looks too old for a 17 year old kid. The dude is like 27 or something, so if you can give him leeway for that I think you can give Brandon the benfit of the doubt.

I'll give him a chance, the dude has a somewhat resemblance to Reeve actually. I think he'll be able to pull it off.
He sure does have a resemblance to Reeve.

Plus, Routh just turned 25. And if they wanted to do more films, he's at the right age. I think he looks just as old as Welling though. Not younger.

[SuperManny]

Well it's official. According to today’s major online news sites, and CBR’s “Comics2Film”, Kevin Spacey and Kate Bosworth have officially signed on to join Bryan Singer’s new Superman film. They will be playing Lex Luthor and Lois Lane (respectively, for all you wise guys out there :p ).

I think Kate is a terrific actor and would portray Lois’s aggressive journalistic flair pretty well (Claire Danes would have been good for this part too). Kevin Spacey, as seen in Seven, can act cynical and diabolical –a good Gene Hackman replacement.

Thoughts and opinions?

*wonders who’ll play “Otis”* ;)

[cactusmaac]

Seven really isn't that good an example of Spacey's villain-playing skills.

Swimming With Sharks is recommended viewing.

[Viking Bastard]

Spacey? Heck, yeah. I mean, he's not Clancy Brown, but... Heck, yeah!

Anyone remember the rumours about him being Brainiac in Burton's Supes?

[Yoda]

Kate Bosworth is a good choice for Lois Lane, she's beatiful. I wonder what she looks like with dark hair though. Thank god the rumors about Mischa Barton weren't true.

Kevin Spacey is an excellant choice for Lex Luthor, he's such a great actor. And I wonder what he's going to look like bald?

Now all they need is Topher Grace or Adam Brody for Jimmy Olsen and I'll be a happy man.

[Pinnacle]

Excellent choices in my opinion.

Anxious to see how each looks in their new hairdos.

[RedneckJedi]

Kevin Spacey is an excellant choice for Lex Luthor, he's such a great actor. And I wonder what he's going to look like bald?
Here ya go... I think Austin Powers in Goldmember has been out long enough...

http://mlans.dynip.com/blogpics/2002-08/2002-08-06-spacey.jpg

[Steve]

Kate Bosworth is a good choice for Lois Lane, she's beatiful. I wonder what she looks like with dark hair though.
Not black colored but close enough I guess.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/8_mile/kate_bosworth/8milepre.jpg

Bosworth's fine. Although Claire Danes would've been perfect.

[Headhunter]

...huh, Bosworth? I thought Kirsten Dunst was going to be a really hard sell, but at least she had a bit of non-mainstream work under her belt, and her acting is relatively natural...I'm very skeptical.

Spacey's a decent choice, depending on how he plays it.

[manofsteel]

I think both are excellent choices. I'm really excited by the choices made so far by Singer, and I think Bosworth will do great as Lois.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Agreed. Spacey is the best choice for Luthor that I can think of (right now). As for Kate, she has the looks, but let's see how she portrays Lois.

And wasn't Iceman going to be Jimmy Olsen?

EDIT: Production starts on March 3, in Australia.


SUPERMAN RULES!!!!

[Dark Monarch]

If Spacey can pull of the scheme and manipulation master Keyser Soze than he can pull of Lex Luther!!!

[mckracken]

Not black colored but close enough I guess.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/universal_pictures/8_mile/kate_bosworth/8milepre.jpg

Bosworth's fine. Although Claire Danes would've been perfect.

What the hell is wrong with her mutant cheeks?
And why does Luthor play the villain YET again? Sigh....those stupid comid movies..

[HomerJay]

Kate Bosworth is a good choice for Lois Lane, she's beatiful. I wonder what she looks like with dark hair though. Thank god the rumors about Mischa Barton weren't true.



I echo that sentiment. Thank GOD Singer didn't go with the latest hot young "IT" girl or cast someone completely wrong for the part like Beyonce (remember that rumor?).

I absolutely don't think I could be happier with Spacey's casting. Ever since I read Kevin Smith's Superman Reborn script I thought that Spacey would make a perfect Luthor. If you weren't going for big names, Jason Isaacs would have done well too (would've been perfect for Dr. Doom, IMHO).

[stealthwise]

Blah, though Mischa Barton and Beyonce are horrible choices, Bosworth still isn't a great one.

Anyone remember "Win a Date with Tad Hamilton"? Or "Blue Crush"?

I would have really preferred Claire Danes.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I echo that sentiment. Thank GOD Singer didn't go with the latest hot young "IT" girl or cast someone completely wrong for the part like Beyonce (remember that rumor?).

I absolutely don't think I could be happier with Spacey's casting. Ever since I read Kevin Smith's Superman Reborn script I thought that Spacey would make a perfect Luthor. If you weren't going for big names, Jason Isaacs would have done well too (would've been perfect for Dr. Doom, IMHO).

I remember tha Beyoncé rumor. I found it particularly annoying. But fortunately, it never happened.

As for Kevin's script, I didn't like it. It was like a big joke. And who's Jason Isaacs?

[HomerJay]

I remember tha Beyoncé rumor. I found it particularly annoying. But fortunately, it never happened.

As for Kevin's script, I didn't like it. It was like a big joke. And who's Jason Isaacs?

I never said I really liked Smith's script. It was OK, but "OK" doesn't quite cut it if you're trying to relaunch a Superman franchise.

Bosworth wouldn't be my first choice, but she's 10 times better than most of the names that were rumored.

You know who Jason Isaacs is:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005042/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj 0wfHE9amFzb24gaXNhY2NzfGh0bWw9MXxubT1vbg__;fc=1;ft =5;fm=1
He tends to play his villains a little over-the-top though.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I never said I really liked Smith's script. It was OK, but "OK" doesn't quite cut it if you're trying to relaunch a Superman franchise.

Honestly, that script wasn't even OK to me. But then again, that's just my opinion.

Bosworth wouldn't be my first choice, but she's 10 times better than most of the names that were rumored.

Agreed. What would be your choice? Just curious.

You know who Jason Isaacs is:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005042/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHx0dD1vbnxwbj 0wfHE9amFzb24gaXNhY2NzfGh0bWw9MXxubT1vbg__;fc=1;ft =5;fm=1
He tends to play his villains a little over-the-top though.

Ah, I remember him now. Haven't seen much of his work though.

[LuckItSelf]

I dont really like spacey as Luthor. He's kind of like Jimmy Stewart, in that he's always Spacey. He happens to be a fantastic actor too, but I'm not really too excited about this movie anymore.

[GUTB]

Look. I don't know why some of you seem to be expecting Superman I and II. Singer is not Donner. Singer is a glorified TV direct-to-video director. While better than a random no-name hack, we will not be getting a continuation of the greatest superhero movies ever, we will be getting shallow and forgettable.

[Yoda]

Look. I don't know why some of you seem to be expecting Superman I and II. Singer is not Donner. Singer is a glorified TV direct-to-video director. While better than a random no-name hack, we will not be getting a continuation of the greatest superhero movies ever, we will be getting shallow and forgettable.

What world exactly are you living in? I think you are confusing Bryan Singer with that clown McG. Usual Suspects is probably one of the best movies I have ever seen, the X-Men movies were excellant adaptations and stand right up there with the first two Superman movies as the best comic book movies ever. I think we will be getting a worthy continuation of a classic series of movies.

[Adam Crocker]

Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor? GOLD.

[Nate Grey]

I like the choices. Here's the thing, though:

They casted someone who liked a lot like Christopher Reeve (IMO, at least), right?

So...does this Kate Bosworth talk like one of Marge Simpson's sisters? You know, to get that Margot Kidder effect.

[Justin Davis]

From the Comics Reel on the front page: "The Hollywood Reporter reports that "House" star Hugh Laurie has been cast as Daily Planet editor Perry White."

That is kick ass news to me. I never even thought of him, but he would make a GREAT Perry White. I LOVE House and it really shows his range since I knew him originally from Black Adder.

[Adrian Tullberg]

From the Comics Reel on the front page: "The Hollywood Reporter reports that "House" star Hugh Laurie has been cast as Daily Planet editor Perry White."

That is kick ass news to me. I never even thought of him, but he would make a GREAT Perry White. I LOVE House and it really shows his range since I knew him originally from Black Adder.

Well, Bally Ho with great big brass knobs on ...

[Jeff O.]

*wonders who’ll play “Otis”* ;)

If Otis shows up, I'd like to see him played by Wayne Knight.

[VietN]

I'm "meh" about the news as well.

I would have prefered that rumour of that woman from Lost playing Lois. Almost prefer that Amy Acker rumour ... though I suppose I can imagine her acting her way past some limitations.

Mmm maybe Bosworth could do that too.

OH and Kate Bosworth IS a rising "IT" girl. Saw her on some top 20 list on muchmusic during the holidays.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

From the Comics Reel on the front page: "The Hollywood Reporter reports that "House" star Hugh Laurie has been cast as Daily Planet editor Perry White."

That is kick ass news to me. I never even thought of him, but he would make a GREAT Perry White. I LOVE House and it really shows his range since I knew him originally from Black Adder.

I don't know this guy. Any pics?

[Grant]

I don't know this guy. Any pics?

Here you go (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0412142/Ss/0412142/House3.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Laurie,%20Hugh).

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Here you go (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0412142/Ss/0412142/House3.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Laurie,%20Hugh).

Thank you. I've seen this guy before, but don't remember where.

[Adrian Tullberg]

http://www.totaldvd.net/features/interviews/images/200301HughLaurie.jpg

http://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/columbia_pictures/stuart_little/_group_photos/geena_davis5.jpg

[Adrian Tullberg]

http://valdefierro.com/jnw97b.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1195000/images/_1196221_laurie150.jpg

http://members.lycos.co.uk/yorkat/hpbimg/HUGH%20LAURIE0001.jpg

[666MasterOfPuppets]

He looks more like White in the last picture. How good an actor is he?

[davidboring]

Are you seriously telling me you've never seen Blackadder? He is great!

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Yes.

Seriously. What's Blackadder? Comedy? Drama?

[Adrian Tullberg]

Yes.

Seriously. What's Blackadder? Comedy? Drama?

http://www.blackadderhall.co.uk/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/blackadder/

http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8889/bladder.htm

[Patman]

Hugh Laurie is hilarious as Greg House on "House, M.D." on Fox Tuesdays 9 p.m. (show is returning at the end of January as American Idol is hogging the 2 hour slots on Tuesdays as it launches its 4th season of bad karaoke singing.

I still wanted Rose Byrne for Lois, but I think she was too short for the role.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/troy/rose_byrne/troypres.jpg

[666MasterOfPuppets]

http://www.blackadderhall.co.uk/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/blackadder/

http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8889/bladder.htm

Cool. Thanx for the links. It looks like it was (is?) a really fun series.

[SuperManny]

I'm sure most of you heard already, but Warner Bros. has set the date for the release of the movie to be June 30th, 2006. Sounds like there's a lot of work to be done between now and approximately a year!

By the way, I'm going to retitle the thread so that most Superman casting and production news is allocated to one spot.

Now that the momentum/countdown has started, I can't wait!

[Deathstroke]

And Eva Marie Saint has been added to the cast as "Ma Kent."

[Mon-el]

I still wanted Rose Byrne for Lois, but I think she was too short for the role.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/troy/rose_byrne/troypres.jpg

She's Beautiful Patman. Frankly this is my first time seeing her. I may have seen her before and just not paid attention. Ill check IMDB after this. I agree with your selection she would be a great Lois.

I think I read on the Main Site this week that Sam Huntington was casted as Jimmy Olson.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

According to some sources, there will be no Pa Kent, since Superman Returns happens after the original first two movies.

[VietN]

I read that it was loosely connected to the previous movies. So thats what I'm hoping for.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I read that it was loosely connected to the previous movies. So thats what I'm hoping for.

Yes, it will be connected via "flashbacks" from Clark.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

NOEL NEILL (the original Lois Lane) has been cast for a small role in the upcoming Superman movie. It will be more than a cameo, though.

[Rich L]

Cool. Thanx for the links. It looks like it was (is?) a really fun series.

Blackadder the Second, the Third and Goes Forth, Christmas Carol are pure comedy genius - not a duff episode in them, and the final episode of Goes Forth is amongst the best TV moments ever.

The first series and the 'Back and Forth' special are less great but still better than most of today's sitcoms.

"I shall return...intrafrastically."

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Blackadder the Second, the Third and Goes Forth, Christmas Carol are pure comedy genius - not a duff episode in them, and the final episode of Goes Forth is amongst the best TV moments ever.

The first series and the 'Back and Forth' special are less great but still better than most of today's sitcoms.

"I shall return...intrafrastically."

Hmm... I might give it a shot... If I manage to find some of that around here.

Seems it's a pretty long series.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

BlueTights.Net (http://www.bluetights.net/bulletin_list.php) has a small video from Bryan Singer with updates from the Superman Returns movie. Hopefully, we will have new updates every two or three weeks.

SUPERMAN RULES!!!!

[666MasterOfPuppets]

People, The Superman Homepage (http://www.supermanhomepage.com) has posted pics from the Kent Farm and the crash site sets for Superman Returns. So, take a look and then come back here and post your opinions.

[SuperManny]

For those of you who haven't heard, actor Frank Langella is taking over Hugh Laurie's role as Perry White. Apparently, Laurie's show "House, MD" is starting an early shoot, so now we'll see a different take on the burly editor!

Here's a news link:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/04/05/film.superman.reut/index.html

More on the actor:
http://imdb.com/name/nm0001449/

Thoughts?

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Don't know. I've seen a few movies in which he's been involved, but I don't remember, and I don't know much about him. So I'll just have to wait and see.

[Grant]

For those of you who haven't heard, actor Frank Langella is taking over Hugh Laurie's role as Perry White. Apparently, Laurie's show "House, MD" is starting an early shoot, so now we'll see a different take on the burly editor!

Thoughts?

I was kind of excited to see Laurie but Langella could be interesting.

[Matt]

A breakfast TV show here called 'Sunrise' just did a walk around the Kent Farm set with the director. Not much new, though he did point out that the corn was specifically grown, gave out some plot details that we already know ... nothing special but it was still interesting.
Had a nice shot of the crashed ship, though.

[redlantern2051]

I got to work today, and my colleague beside me, regaled me with tales (quite possibly far-fetched) of the "Sunrise" interview. He claims that Supes crashes twice, once as a baby, and then again, after he has defeated the baddies from Superman 2.

I had not heard this report before. i remember the "Exile in Space" story-where Supes exiles himself after killing the 3 same baddies-is this a reference to that story? ie. Is this an adult Supes returning from the Exile?

Or is my work-mate totally wrong? I'd like to know b4 I hit work tomorrow! :-)

Personally, I think it sounds like a cool idea!

[666MasterOfPuppets]

SPOILERS









The ship, according to Bryan Singer, is the one in which he returns to Earth after an exile in space. I'm ok with that, as long it's not the "travel to Krypton" crap from previous scripts.

[RadioactiveMan]

OK. I have a question about the story. Spoiler alert i guess, so you'll have to highlight,


So Supes is back from a sebatical from what I heard, during which Luther has taken full advantage, and eveyone now hates the MOS's guts. I guess he's gone at least a few years. So where the hell was he? Im pretty sure the movie Superman was only aware of 2 inhabited planets, Earth and Krypton. And if he wasn't on the former, and sure as hell couldn't have been on the latter, was he just on a one man road trip through the cosmos or what?

BTW, how do you reckon Spacey will sell Lex? I mean no offence to Hackman, but after 4 years of Smallville, a comedy Luther would just seem, well, stupid.

[davids]

He returned from krypton. Wanted to see for himself if it was really gone!

[Ramz]

so.... who plays superman?

[SuperManny]

so.... who plays superman?

Brandon Routh will be playing Superman/Clark Kent. Here's a link to his homepage so everyone can picture the guy in the infamous blue tights:

http://www.brandonrouth.com/superman.php

Seems like a good successor!

[The Joker]

OK. I have a question about the story. Spoiler alert i guess, so you'll have to highlight,


So Supes is back from a sebatical from what I heard, during which Luther has taken full advantage, and eveyone now hates the MOS's guts. I guess he's gone at least a few years. So where the hell was he? Im pretty sure the movie Superman was only aware of 2 inhabited planets, Earth and Krypton. And if he wasn't on the former, and sure as hell couldn't have been on the latter, was he just on a one man road trip through the cosmos or what?

BTW, how do you reckon Spacey will sell Lex? I mean no offence to Hackman, but after 4 years of Smallville, a comedy Luther would just seem, well, stupid.

Superman left to go see if he was really the sole survivor of Krypton. Dont ask me how he was able to build a ship that's capable of going that far. Cause I dont know. :o

Spacey will play Lex more like the Post-Crisis version. I doubt we'll see anything comedic in his performance. Atleast not in a Gene Hackman sense. Actually, I've heard that Spacey will play Luthor somewhat creepy as well. Although dont quote me on that, since I'm not aware on how creepy he's supposed to be.
Personally, I think Spacey will carry this film if Routh fails.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

That rumor about Superman wanting to know if Krypton was really gone makes no sense whatsoever. Superman knew for certain Krypton was gone, because Jor-El himself told him (Superman: The Movie). Let's remember that this movie is tied to Superman and Superman II. Even The design for The Fortress will be identical to the Chris Reeve's Fortress.

[cactusmaac]

Yeah it seems retarded for him to make a 6-year round-trip personally.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Yeah it seems retarded for him to make a 6-year round-trip personally.

Perhaps something happened after the events in Superman II, that made him leave Earth in a self-imposed exile.

We'll have to wait and see. Let's remember that Superman Returns doesn't necessarily happen right after Superman II.

[SuperManny]

This pic was taken from the Superman Homepage (www.supermanhomepage.com (http://www.supermanhomepage.com) ), and it depicts Kate Bosworth's appearance as Lois Lane. What do you think, sort of similar to Margot Kidder?

By the way, I hope the movie transitions well Lex Luthor's criminal status to that of the Post-Crisis businessman.....although I have to admit, they're both similar anyway.

*looking forward to the movie*

[dancj]

Looks like it's still set in the 80's then

[The Joker]

I kinda doubt Superman Returns will be set in the 80's.

Singer has stated that the previous Superman films (1 & 2) will be kept in a "vague" history. Which means what happened in the previous Superman films, may not be the essentials. Which in turn, would explain Jonathan Kent's demise being met while Supes is on his voyage to Krypton, rather than state that he died while Clark was still in Smallville.

Just seems really vague, so I doubt this new movie will be set in the 80's. I'm really wondering how vague are Superman 1 & 2 is really supposed to be?

[Sean Whitmore]

The Blue Tights Network (http://www.bluetights.net/) has just put up a small video of flight tests for the movie. Most of it is behind-the-scenes technical stuff, but the very first shot has got me very excited. :)


SEAN

[dancj]

I kinda doubt Superman Returns will be set in the 80's.

I was just going but Lois's blouse

[Tom]

The Blue Tights Network (http://www.bluetights.net/) has just put up a small video of flight tests for the movie. Most of it is behind-the-scenes technical stuff, but the very first shot has got me very excited. :)
That shot looks a little crude for the final film, but one thing I noticed is that the costume seems to be rendered in the traditional red and blue instead of the desaturated version we've seen.

[Tom]

I kinda doubt Superman Returns will be set in the 80's.

Singer has stated that the previous Superman films (1 & 2) will be kept in a "vague" history. Which means what happened in the previous Superman films, may not be the essentials. Which in turn, would explain Jonathan Kent's demise being met while Supes is on his voyage to Krypton, rather than state that he died while Clark was still in Smallville.

Just seems really vague, so I doubt this new movie will be set in the 80's. I'm really wondering how vague are Superman 1 & 2 is really supposed to be?
Well, considering Brando is playing Jor-El, I have to assume it's not that vague.

[The Joker]

Well, considering Brando is playing Jor-El, I have to assume it's not that vague.

But when you consider that Lex Luthor will be pretty much appearing as his "Post-Crisis" self, and not "the greatest criminal mind of all time" "Pre-Crisis" self. One has to wonder how vague this film will actually be. Especially when you consider the fact that Lex had quite a long period of prison time ahead of him at the end of "Superman the Movie".

That bit seems to have been erased with this film.

Ditto on the time of Jonathan Kent's heart attack.

[SuperManny]

Especially when you consider the fact that Lex had quite a long period of prison time ahead of him at the end of "Superman the Movie".
That bit seems to have been erased with this film
Ditto on the time of Jonathan Kent's heart attack.

I think they will essentially fast-forward (i.e. retcon) the time of his arrival by twenty years, making it approximately in the 70's (when the first one was made). Update the cars in the first Superman movie to that time frame and voila, a fixed issue. It's not very hard to do considering that those cars are still around this day and age.

As far as Luthor's prison time goes, even though Superman IV isn't a solid part of the background to this movie, has anyone noticed how Superman in the end says "See you in 20 Luthor" when he drops him off at the prison camp? Now this was filmed in '87; cool coincidence that 19 years later we have a new Superman movie!

*thinks Luthor was released a year early for good behavior* :p

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Kate looks fine. Kind of with a nostalgic nod to previous Lois incarnations.

[Master Darque]

Kate Bosworth ? Meh . Now THIS woman (http://www.comicbookhotties.com/images/lois-lane-teri-hatcher/large/lois-lane-01.jpg) is the best Lois EVER .
Too bad there's no role for Ms Tessmacher (http://www.comicbookhotties.com/images/valerie-perrine/large/valerie-perrine-05.jpg) in this ....siiiigh .

[The Joker]

I agree.

Teri Hatcher is definately the best, as well as most attractive, Lois Lane by far. And I really cant see Bosworth eclipsing her either.

Never knew Ms. Tessmacher posed for Playboy... :eek: :)

[dancj]

Terri Hatcher was a terrible Lois Lane. It was easy not to notice because her terribleness was eclipsed by the incredible smug Dean Cain.

The only good Lois I can think of so far was Margot Kidder.

[bannermanonemillion]

That rumor about Superman wanting to know if Krypton was really gone makes no sense whatsoever. Superman knew for certain Krypton was gone, because Jor-El himself told him (Superman: The Movie). Let's remember that this movie is tied to Superman and Superman II. Even The design for The Fortress will be identical to the Chris Reeve's Fortress.

I think he goes into space to make sure there aren't other Kryptonian criminals out there who might make it to earth and raise hell all over again. If they're out there, he can face them headon without worrying about Earth in the process. Remember in Superman II the reason why Zod and his crew did so much damage was that Supes picked exactly the wrong moment to become human and profess his love for Lois. He was caught totally by surprise and through sheer movie luck managed to get his powers back and start kicking Zod and Co. across town. I'll bet this time he decides to be proactive and seek them out if there are anymore out there.

[The Joker]

Terri Hatcher was a terrible Lois Lane. It was easy not to notice because her terribleness was eclipsed by the incredible smug Dean Cain.

Nope. Cant agree.

If anything, Hatcher could get by on her hot looks.

Actually I think Dean Cain's acting on the show was pretty passive.

To each his/her own. :)

[Master Darque]

Yeah ... til ya hear Margot open her mouth and that raspy Stevie Nicks , cat in a blender voice comes out . What ...did she gargle with razor blades ?
Naw ... the show's writers WROTE some terrible Lois material . If Teri were written as Kidder's Lois was , she'd have been perfect . As it is , she did an ok job and looked incredible doing it .

[dancj]

Maybe you're right. I found Terri Hatcher much more likeable in Desperate Housewives.

[SuperManny]

Never knew Ms. Tessmacher posed for Playboy...

As did Margot Kidder....before landing the Superman job :)

*still waiting on the Noel Neill spread* :eek: ;)

[The Joker]

Yeah I knew about the Margot Kidder spread. Actually my boss was the one who told me about it. One day we were talking about Superman: The Movie, and he mentioned that he used to have the Playboy issue with the Margot spread. He said it wasnt bad, for whatever it's worth. ;) :p

Noel Neill spread? LoL :D

I'm not even sure old Hugh is ready for that one! :eek:

[Rik]

Noel Neill spread? LoL :D

I'm not even sure old Hugh is ready for that one! :eek:

Hey, let's not forget Phyllis Coates!

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/aos-1950s/phyllis10.jpg

[SuperManny]

This link has a collection of movie photos and sketches based on the upcoming Superman movie. This site is from the Superman Homepage and the creator does a fantastic job of maintaining it with all sorts of new Superman info.

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/gallery/gallery.php?topic=superman-lives

I'm sure some of these pictures are floating around the 'net at other sites. ;)

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I think he goes into space to make sure there aren't other Kryptonian criminals out there who might make it to earth and raise hell all over again. If they're out there, he can face them headon without worrying about Earth in the process. Remember in Superman II the reason why Zod and his crew did so much damage was that Supes picked exactly the wrong moment to become human and profess his love for Lois. He was caught totally by surprise and through sheer movie luck managed to get his powers back and start kicking Zod and Co. across town. I'll bet this time he decides to be proactive and seek them out if there are anymore out there.

Now that makes more sense. It would be foolish from him to travel to see if Krypton was really destroyed, don't you think?

Or perhaps something happened after Superman II, that made him leave for a while...

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Maybe you're right. I found Terri Hatcher much more likeable in Desperate Housewives.
Hatcher's Lois was terrible, IMO. And Dean Cain's Superman wasn't any better.

Especially towards the end of the series.

[The Joker]

Now that makes more sense. It would be foolish from him to travel to see if Krypton was really destroyed, don't you think?

Or perhaps something happened after Superman II, that made him leave for a while...

I remember reading somewhere that another reason Superman leaves is because the people in Metropolis now dont trust the Man of Steel. Near the end of 2, Superman flew off while in the middle of a fight with Zod and company. Many people believe that Superman backed away, and felt betrayed by his actions. Though he did defeat Zod and his crew in the fortress of Solitude, Superman's image was already tarnished.

But yeah. It really doesnt make much sense for him to go looking for Krypton when The Godfather has already told him that it's been completely destroyed. Guess Zod's appearance made Supes second guess Daddy. :D

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I remember reading somewhere that another reason Superman leaves is because the people in Metropolis now dont trust the Man of Steel. Near the end of 2, Superman flew off while in the middle of a fight with Zod and company. Many people believe that Superman backed away, and felt betrayed by his actions. Though he did defeat Zod and his crew in the fortress of Solitude, Superman's image was already tarnished.

Hmmm... It could be. But at the end of the movie, he went to the White House and promised the President that he would not be alone again. I don't know. I thought that defeating Zod, Ursa and Non and going to the White house afterwards had cleared things up.

But yeah. It really doesnt make much sense for him to go looking for Krypton when The Godfather has already told him that it's been completely destroyed. Guess Zod's appearance made Supes second guess Daddy. :D

EXACTLY.

[The Joker]

Well the problem with this movie is Singer has said before that the previous films (Superman 1 & 2) will be in a "vague" history.

An example of this is that now it will be said that Jonathan Kent died while Superman was on his voyage to Krypton. Which totally contradicts what happened in Superman: The Movie.

So yeah, I would agree with you that it doesnt make much sense for Supes to tell the president that he would NOT let him down again, and then go off and disappear for 6 years.

I'm still trying to figure out that one.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Well the problem with this movie is Singer has said before that the previous films (Superman 1 & 2) will be in a "vague" history.

An example of this is that now it will be said that Jonathan Kent died while Superman was on his voyage to Krypton. Which totally contradicts what happened in Superman: The Movie.

This I didn't know. Where did you hear that?

So yeah, I would agree with you that it doesnt make much sense for Supes to tell the president that he would NOT let him down again, and then go off and disappear for 6 years.

I'm still trying to figure out that one.

Me too. Perhaps Singer is just taking the core elements from the two movies, and not the whole thing...

[The Joker]

This I didn't know. Where did you hear that?

Heard about it about a month ago. Not sure if it's 100% true, but with the plot that I have heard so far. I wouldnt doubt it.

Me too. Perhaps Singer is just taking the core elements from the two movies, and not the whole thing...

Sounds like a pretty safe bet. But I'm not really a fan of this line of thinking. It's like Singer wants to have his cake, and eat it too.

It's like Singer wants you to watch the previous films, but completely ignore some scenes. It's a sequel, but not really. Just not what I was expecting from a re-boot of a Superman film franchise. :o

[Spike-X]

Now that makes more sense. It would be foolish from him to travel to see if Krypton was really destroyed, don't you think?

Or perhaps something happened after Superman II, that made him leave for a while...
III an IV came out, and he was ashamed to show his face in public?

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Heard about it about a month ago. Not sure if it's 100% true, but with the plot that I have heard so far. I wouldnt doubt it.

Hmmm... Sounds interesting...

Sounds like a pretty safe bet. But I'm not really a fan of this line of thinking. It's like Singer wants to have his cake, and eat it too.

It's like Singer wants you to watch the previous films, but completely ignore some scenes. It's a sequel, but not really. Just not what I was expecting from a re-boot of a Superman film franchise. :o

I wouldn't mind, as long as the essence of the first two movies is there, and as long as it's done right, taking into account that this is not any superhero, but the Superhero. After all, they seem to be subtle changes...

[666MasterOfPuppets]

III an IV came out, and he was ashamed to show his face in public?

It seems that Superman III and IV won't be accounted for. As if they never existed. Perhaps Singer knows that these two movies sucked big time (a pity, really), and wants to erase them from Superman-movie continuity.

Fine by me.

[SuperManny]

Well, now that Comic-Con 2005 has ended, there has been noteworthy buzz about the new Superman movie in the mainstream media. Check out the latest articles from USA Today about reactions from Bryan Singer's appearance; interesting new tidbits!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2005-07-17-comic-con-main_x.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2005-07-17-comic-con-sidebar_x.htm

CBR has also posted a sample from fan reactions to Singer's display of film scenes at the convention:

http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5613

Personally, I'd love to see those clips and if they made the 'net! :D

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Well, now that Comic-Con 2005 has ended, there has been noteworthy buzz about the new Superman movie in the mainstream media. Check out the latest articles from USA Today about reactions from Bryan Singer's appearance; interesting new tidbits!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2005-07-17-comic-con-main_x.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2005-07-17-comic-con-sidebar_x.htm

CBR has also posted a sample from fan reactions to Singer's display of film scenes at the convention:

http://comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=5613

Personally, I'd love to see those clips and if they made the 'net! :D

They will my friend. They will.

Patience is a virtue.

[The Xenos]

It's like Singer wants you to watch the previous films, but completely ignore some scenes. It's a sequel, but not really. Just not what I was expecting from a re-boot of a Superman film franchise. :o


Dammit. Singer is relying too much on Donner's film and not on Superman. There are SO many things to do with the character and what is Singer doing? Just making a disjointed follow up to the first two films from years ago.

Now I liked Superman in those films... and that's about it. I couldn't stand Brando and crystal Krypton. Never cared for Kidder as Lois. Hackman was blah as Luthor. Hell, his characer in Heist was more Lurhor than what ever joke was in the Donner films.

Now I saw the films years after they came out. I knew a little from the comics. I remember seeing them again after getting to know the comics and the recent toon and I was shocked at how.. well.. just weird everyone was. Oh and I freaked out and laughed that they killed Pa Kent. What the hell?!

So now it's years later and we have a new Superman movie.. and it's going to be directly linked with the first two. Bleh. Just bleh.

Plus Lois having a kid while Superman was gone all these years and being all anti-Superman. Blah. Plus I hope to Rao that there is no Son of Superman. It was a good Elseworlds comic. It is a terrible idea for a mass media movie for Superman.

I didn't want an origin story, but I didn't want a continuation. I wish we did have a director who read Superman comics and not be so gung ho for Donnner's films. I actually don't think Singer is much better than Ratner. With the right writer maybe we would have got something fresh and truer to the character instead of jsut sticking to the old movies.

-Xenos

[Hellfan]

I respect Donner and Reeve (RIP), but I personally think it's insane to have the movie even remotely connected to those movies - a franchise from 1978!

What's the target group for this movie? I just don't like the concept. Superman: The movie, is NOT the definite Superman.

Jeez! Hollywood! At least go read the damn comics! :mad:

[dancj]

Oh and I freaked out and laughed that they killed Pa Kent. What the hell?!

In all fairness, Superman's parents were dead in the comics at the time. It was only when John Byrne revamped the character in 1987 that he had the Kents alive during his career as Superman

[The Joker]

Well, I hope for the best. But I honestly have sincere doubt that Singer's Superman Returns will be anywhere near as good as Nolan's Batman Begins.

[trickster]

Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor? GOLD.

The guy who played Lucius Malfoy seems like a better idea, but hey Spacey is pretty good too. I would have liked de Niro though, nobody plays a better jerk than him.

Well, I hope for the best. But I honestly have sincere doubt that Singer's Superman Returns will be anywhere near as good as Nolan's Batman Begins.

Yeah. Body armor is always going to be cooler then a blue tracksuit with blue underwear over the pants. Superman just doesn't look good on screen. And the way they're going at it isn't helping either.

At least I hope they have Doomsday in it, and luckily hopefully Luthor will be a criminal genius and not a clown this time around.

Oh and
Who is Kitty Koslowski?

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-lives/ParkerPosey-tb.html

[Patman]

The guy who played Lucius Malfoy seems like a better idea,

Yeah, Jason Isaacs would have been a good choice for Lex.

[pennywisdom]

Dammit. Singer is relying too much on Donner's film and not on Superman. There are SO many things to do with the character and what is Singer doing? Just making a disjointed follow up to the first two films from years ago. Now I liked Superman in those films... and that's about it. I couldn't stand Brando and crystal Krypton. Never cared for Kidder as Lois. Hackman was blah as Luthor. Hell, his characer in Heist was more Lurhor than what ever joke was in the Donner films. Now I saw the films years after they came out. I knew a little from the comics. I remember seeing them again after getting to know the comics and the recent toon and I was shocked at how.. well.. just weird everyone was. Oh and I freaked out and laughed that they killed Pa Kent. What the hell?! So now it's years later and we have a new Superman movie.. and it's going to be directly linked with the first two. Bleh. Just bleh. Plus Lois having a kid while Superman was gone all these years and being all anti-Superman. Blah. Plus I hope to Rao that there is no Son of Superman. It was a good Elseworlds comic. It is a terrible idea for a mass media movie for Superman. I didn't want an origin story, but I didn't want a continuation. I wish we did have a director who read Superman comics and not be so gung ho for Donnner's films. I actually don't think Singer is much better than Ratner. With the right writer maybe we would have got something fresh and truer to the character instead of jsut sticking to the old movies.

-Xenos
You're exactly right on all counts. I just realized something: When being interviewed, Singer nevers mentions the comics, only the first films. I thought the first films were great in their own way, but a bit too goofy to really nail what I consider to be the essence of the character.

I don't think this film will be as good towards Superman as Batman Begins was to Batman. I just pray that it's more respectful to the character and fans than the first four Batman movies were to Batman.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Well, I hope for the best. But I honestly have sincere doubt that Singer's Superman Returns will be anywhere near as good as Nolan's Batman Begins.

Do you really think so?

What makes you think that way?

[666MasterOfPuppets]

The guy who played Lucius Malfoy seems like a better idea, but hey Spacey is pretty good too. I would have liked de Niro though, nobody plays a better jerk than him.

I hadn't thought of De Niro as Luthor. Sounds really cool.

Yeah. Body armor is always going to be cooler then a blue tracksuit with blue underwear over the pants. Superman just doesn't look good on screen. And the way they're going at it isn't helping either.

Bah. He looks fine to me. The update they made to the suit and the shield was inevitable. I can live with that.

[QUOTE]At least I hope they have Doomsday in it, and luckily hopefully Luthor will be a criminal genius and not a clown this time around.

I pretty much doubt it. I don't think Doomsday will be in this movie. Perhaps in a sequel, but not in this one. As for Luthor, I think that Spacey will play him as a mix of Gene Hackman's and current Luthor.

Oh and
Who is Kitty Koslowski?

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superman-lives/ParkerPosey-tb.html

Supposedly, one of Luthor's henchmen. She was created for the movie, I think.

[The Joker]

Do you really think so?

What makes you think that way?

I dont know. The plot, and Singer obviously being very infatuated with Donner's version ( Kitty Koslowski? :rolleyes: ) come to mind first. Just doesnt really strike me as being anywhere near as great as Nolan's take on Batman was.

It's basically an extention of Donner's film. Which is a great film, but should have been left alone. I remember hearing that when "Batman: Intimidation Game" was announced, it was referred to as being the "real" sequel to Burton's "Batman Returns". Thankfully Nolan (from what I gather) nixed this proposal, and chose to start his version of Batman off fresh. Which reinvigorated the franchise.

A fresh take on Superman (with no "vague" Donner history) would have been nice.

[SuperManny]

Dammit. Singer is relying too much on Donner's film and not on Superman. There are SO many things to do with the character and what is Singer doing? Just making a disjointed follow up to the first two films from years ago.

I respect Donner and Reeve (RIP), but I personally think it's insane to have the movie even remotely connected to those movies - a franchise from 1978!

What's the target group for this movie? I just don't like the concept. Superman: The movie, is NOT the definite Superman.

Jeez! Hollywood! At least go read the damn comics! :mad:

But the question I ask both of you is, why mess with success? Singer's argument is that the majority of us grew up on the Donner movies, and his portrayal won't rely on you to watch the first two. Rather, those that watch Smallville or know another past history of the character as well would be able to jump in. Hence, disjointed. A fresh start is nice but I guess he's trying to dilute the confusion he believes exists with all the different origin stories out there (as opposed to Batman or Spider-Man).

The reason why most of us think Donner's version is the definite Superman is because that movie STILL reflects how Pre-Crisis Superman would of acted and even Post-Crisis (which Byrne himself used the movie as reference). Luthor opinions aside, it's as good as it's going to get in Superman origin movies, I believe.

Wait until the movie is released, I'm sure everyone will be pleased :D

[SuperManny]

According to CBR's Hannibal Tatu, Dark Horizons.com now has posted how the new 'S' shield will look like in full movie poster color.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/shield.php

Cartoony movie poster potential :p

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I dont know. The plot, and Singer obviously being very infatuated with Donner's version ( Kitty Koslowski? :rolleyes: ) come to mind first. Just doesnt really strike me as being anywhere near as great as Nolan's take on Batman was.

It's basically an extention of Donner's film. Which is a great film, but should have been left alone. I remember hearing that when "Batman: Intimidation Game" was announced, it was referred to as being the "real" sequel to Burton's "Batman Returns". Thankfully Nolan (from what I gather) nixed this proposal, and chose to start his version of Batman off fresh. Which reinvigorated the franchise.

A fresh take on Superman (with no "vague" Donner history) would have been nice.

Let's remember that Singer won't use scenes per se from the original Superman movie (except for the Krypton architecture and Marlon Brando). I think he will add his twist to the Superman origin, using the Donner film as some sort of skeleton or basis, but nothing more.

And it still is a fresh take on Superman. If seeing Lois with a child that's not Clark's is not fresh, I don't know what would be fresh, then.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

According to CBR's Hannibal Tatu, Dark Horizons.com now has posted how the new 'S' shield will look like in full movie poster color.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/shield.php

Cartoony movie poster potential :p

Oh yeah. I already saw it, and downloaded it.

Looks really cool.

[SuperManny]

The Superman Homepage (www.supermanhomepage.com) has a great photo of Kevin Spacey in his Lex Luthor costume. Pretty similar to Gene Hackman eh?

Otis!

[Grant]

He looks more Lex then Hackman ever did. The wacky wig idea of Hackman's was pretty awful.

[trickster]

They should really do away with anything related to the movies before. Nolan did it with Batman Begins and the movie was great. No, not great, fabulous! A batfan's wet dream. Someone was smart enough to do away with everything related to the old Batman movies. No more pompous ass Tim Burton director's "visions", no more close-up shots of George Clooney's ass while putting on his rubber pants (or was it Val Kilmer's ass :p), no more Jim Carrey clowning around, no more head-in-the-clouds Bruce Wayne who isn't sure if he's Bruce Wayne or not. Superman needs a new life breathed into him on screen, and it has to be done by wiping the slate clean. They did it with Batman, hopefully they'll do it with Superman.

[Deskad]

They should really do away with anything related to the movies before. Nolan did it with Batman Begins and the movie was great. No, not great, fabulous! A batfan's wet dream. Someone was smart enough to do away with everything related to the old Batman movies. No more pompous ass Tim Burton director's "visions", no more close-up shots of George Clooney's ass while putting on his rubber pants (or was it Val Kilmer's ass ;p), no more Jim Carrey clowning around, no more head-in-the-clouds Bruce Wayne who isn't sure if he's Bruce Wayne or not. Superman needs a new life breathed into him on screen, and it has to be done by wiping the slate clean. They did it with Batman, hopefully they'll do it with Superman.

Thing is, the superman movies actually kept true to superman's character, the batman movies until the recent one did not.

And I agree, Batman begins kicked so much ass it was unbelievable.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

He looks more Lex then Hackman ever did.

Agreed. Although Hackman's performance was pretty memorable.

[SuperManny]

Comics Continuum has an interesting article today, as well as the rest of this week with the rest of the cast and crew of the movie:

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0508/01/index.htm

:D

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Comics Continuum has an interesting article today, as well as the rest of this week with the rest of the cast and crew of the movie:

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0508/01/index.htm

:D

SUPERMAN RETURNS FIRST TRAILER IN THE FALL?!?!?!?!?!?!

HELL YEAH!

Thanks for the link, Manny.

[Titan Slade]

over at www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0509/05/superman.htm

[Pariah128]

Hmm, actually..it isnt as bad as I expected, I daresay he can pull off that costume better than Reeves could, even tho he does look a tad bit small to be superman

Is it just me or does the cape look like its made from leather?

[Norrin Radd]

Yes, better than expected!

[Steve]

Looks good to me.

I like it!

[We R. Venom]

still looks like a damn idiot

[MrPalen]

Yeah the cape looks pure leather which is kind of strange.

As for Routh, I'll have to see him in action. I find him a bit hard to believe in the stills so far... he just looks so young. But who knows.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

The boots are awfull, the way the cape hangs in the neck and the whole neckline is hideous, the tiny \S/ is horrendous, the \S/ in the belt is redundant, the stripshow speedos are too bad for words and replacing red with brown in his suit is just wrong.

Routh looks like a nice guy, though.

[RawShark]

looks like he borrowed Batman's cape,
tried to dye it red,
but it came out muddy brown instead.

[LukeRed5]

Nothing beats Reeves/Superman, but this is good. Hopefully its a good movie.

[Converge]

looks like he borrowed Batman's cape,
tried to dye it red,
but it came out muddy brown instead.

looks pretty red to me. it's a darker red, but it's definitely not "muddy brown"

[PrimalScream]

better than expected.just remember with a hero like supes it aint gonna b as humanised or "realistic" as batman begins.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Agreed. He looks good. Waiting for the trailer in november. I'd bet it will come with the new Harry POTter.

[Steve]

Yeah the cape looks pure leather which is kind of strange.

As for Routh, I'll have to see him in action. I find him a bit hard to believe in the stills so far... he just looks so young. But who knows.
Have you seen the Video Journal # 22 at Blue Tights (http://www.bluetights.net/) yet? It's to your right. From the various clips, I think he looks good. I agree that he does look young though. But it doesn't bother me.

[Phrozen]

Superman is supposed to wear red not maroon.

[acagle7]

It looks good.

[GUTB]

I believe the expression is: "Mad fugly".

I was kind of hoping it was going to be okay. That'll learn me to put faith in mass media hacks.

[Headhunter]

Weak, he:

still looks like a damn idiot
I'm not feeling it at all.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Let's give him a chance. At least Routh is a better choice than Brendan Fraser or Nic Cage. Besides, I think he looks good. We can't compare everyone to Chris Reeve, because if that's the case, we'll never be satisfied with the results.

[dancj]

We can't compare everyone to Chris Reeve, because if that's the case, we'll never be satisfied with the results.

Yup - They'll never cast Superman as well as they did with Christopher Reed. I think they got a young Clark right with Tom Welling and Brandon Routh looks like he could be good.

Let's face it, he can't be worse than the ultra-smarmy Dean Caine

[The Joker]

Routh might be pretty good as the man of steel. But he'll never be Chris Reeve. Also, I sincerely doubt he'll steal the show in Superman Returns.

No. That job will go to Kevin Spacey as Lex. A performance I'm very, very much looking forward to.

[Steve]

Let's give him a chance. At least Routh is a better choice than Brendan Fraser or Nic Cage.
Amen to that!

[Titan Slade]

Amen to that!

Double Amen, double Amen.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Yup - They'll never cast Superman as well as they did with Christopher Reed. I think they got a young Clark right with Tom Welling and Brandon Routh looks like he could be good.

Let's face it, he can't be worse than the ultra-smarmy Dean Caine

Agreed. Tom Welling is and looks too young for the role. And yes, Dean Cain wasn't the best Superman, especially with the goddamn corny dialog he always had with Teri Hatcher.

[SuperManny]

This past week we've had some updates to the progression of the Superman Returns movie. Most notably, the following:

~ Superman Returns will debut in IMAX theatres at the same time as the regular movie theatre screens, just like Batman Begins.

~The website is now up and running as of a week, including new photos, downloads and buddy icons:
http://www.supermanreturns.com

~The Superman Returns teaser trailer to debut at the end of tomorrow's (11/17) episode of Smallville! Click here for a description (spoiler) of the teaser to be shown:
http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=3637

I'm seriously excited about tomorrow night's viewing....! :D

[SuperManny]

According to Superherohype.com and CBR's own Hanibal Tatu, Bryan Singer gave a lengthy presentation to an Ivy League school about his upcoming movie. More details are spilled about Superman's 'new' abilities and effects:

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=3644

Comments? :confused:

[666MasterOfPuppets]

That's cool. Nothing there that makes me doubt about the quality of the movie. Superman Returns is going to obliterate X-Men 3.

[Mia]

I just saw the teaser trailer and I have a few questions. First was that really Brando and was he uttering lines from an old Superman film. Second that bit he was saying about Superman teaching man etc. really made my hair stand up

Not much so that it was a riff off of Christ. But I really have never seen Superman set any kind of example for people. I mean he's a nice guy (I'd marry him), but there is more to being in the world than just 'nice'.

There are superheroes that have inspired me. But Superman has never been one of them. He's always seemed either self-righteous or hopelessly naive to me. I have always seen Superman as seeing the world as he wishes it to be instead as it really is. If Superman was in the business world he'd be eaten alive.

[Logansmiddleclaw]

Yes that was Brando's voice. Yeah, you could make some Christ-like comparisons given what Brando/Supes daddy said. I look at it more from this standpoint: the Kryptonians viewed Earthlings as vastly inferior to them in every way...Jor-El knows that Kal will be superior to humans (at least physically and arguably mentally given his acquired :D knowledge of the universe etc). It would seem only natural to a "superior" being that his son, a member of the advanced and superior Kryptonian race, would go to earth to enlighten the inferior earthlings.

[SuperManny]

A friend of mine that works at a local service shop revealed to me that some of the people that are cranking out the special effects for the movie have stopped by infrequently, and every now and then they spill out some details. I've included his message, along with spoilers below, but it's nothing major to the plot of the story:

Sony people that shop at Sears sometimes pop in and let us know what they've seen because they're doing the special effects just north of your parents' in the studio. Apparently there's an amazing scene where Clark is getting used to his abilities running alongside (bobbing and weaving) traffic and when he told us about that it actually reminded me of the scene where Clark was running alongside the train in the first one.

I knew the same people that wowed audiences with the special effects of Spider-Man are now focused on this project for Warner Bros., so his credibility is pretty good!

*can't wait for the real trailer*

[SuperManny]

There are superheroes that have inspired me. But Superman has never been one of them. He's always seemed either self-righteous or hopelessly naive to me. I have always seen Superman as seeing the world as he wishes it to be instead as it really is. If Superman was in the business world he'd be eaten alive.

Interesting opinion Mia. Could you repost this under the "Superman Returns teaser trailer debut" thread? I'm sure there are others there that will agree and disagree with this statement.

I think it's not so much that he is nice, but the inspiration comes from the fact he can do things us humans can't. On top of that, he's using them for good and the benefit of mankind -he helps and saves people's lives. This motivation is a welcome change from the inescapable greed and corruption that exists not only in the business world, but even among our daily activities.

That's the way I see it, anyway :)

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Agreed. That's the inspiration Superman gives. I don't know what were you looking for in a superhero that could inspire you, Mia.

[Mia]

I think it's not so much that he is nice, but the inspiration comes from the fact he can do things us humans can't.

I don't see anything to admire in someone who has abilties that others don't. Superman is an Alien who can fly and is super fast. Human beings (earthlings) don't have his abilities.


On top of that, he's using them for good and the benefit of mankind -he helps and saves people's lives. This motivation is a welcome change from the inescapable greed and corruption that exists not only in the business world, but even among our daily activities.

That's the way I see it, anyway :)

Yes I agree that is admirable. But Superman is hardly the only person on the planet who uses his abilties to help others. Yes even in the DCU who helps others. He is using his "gifts" and "talents" to help others. The same way other people, say a doctor with his gift of being a medical practioner uses his to cure the sick. There is hardly anything unique in that. As far as I am concerned Superman is doing his job.



Agreed. That's the inspiration Superman gives. I don't know what were you looking for in a superhero that could inspire you, Mia.

The superheroes who inpsire me. Are the ones who have faults, demons and to be frank are sometimes are not very nice or likeable people. But they get past all of that in order to help others.

Bruce 'Batman' Wayne could have taken his trajedy and spent the rest of his life wallowing in self pity. But instead he uses his time and money and skills being Batman preying on those who would victimize the weak. Ditto with Huntress. Here is a woman with serious problems yet she helps others. I could say the same thing for Daredevil and Emma Frost.

Another thing that inspires me about these heroes is that they strive to be the best that they can be. And realise that the world isn't 'black and white' and will do whatever it takes for the greater good. That's what inspires me.

Superman on the other hand, from what I have seen. Is unwilling to do whatever it takes for the greater good. I was turned off by the way he turned his back on Wonderwoman after she saved his life, when she killed Max Lord.

[SuperManny]

I don't see anything to admire in someone who has abilties that others don't. Superman is an Alien who can fly and is super fast. Human beings (earthlings) don't have his abilities.

What about the virtue of making the impossible possible? The reason why we took up making airplanes was because birds inspired us to fly.

Yes I agree that is admirable. But Superman is hardly the only person on the planet who uses his abilties to help others. Yes even in the DCU who helps others. He is using his "gifts" and "talents" to help others. The same way other people, say a doctor with his gift of being a medical practioner uses his to cure the sick. There is hardly anything unique in that. As far as I am concerned Superman is doing his job.

I don't understand how that's not unique. Most people use their talents and gifts for selfish reasons as opposed to selfless. Doctors become doctors and business people start up new companies because of the money involved (not all, but it's a strong factor I'm sure). Better yet, accountants become accountants because it's what they can do best to bring some sort of income home. Now, I'm not saying that's not a good reason (self-preservation), I'm implying that not many people take up roles and use their natural abilities solely for the need of others.

Almost everyone seems to have an altruistic motive, yet Superman's is plain and simple: I just want to help. How's that for a good example for the human race?

If Doctors/Engineers Without Borders or worldly humanitarian acts can't do it.....then something should. :)

Superman on the other hand, from what I have seen. Is unwilling to do whatever it takes for the greater good. I was turned off by the way he turned his back on Wonderwoman after she saved his life, when she killed Max Lord.

That was more of a disappointed attitude versus a complete rejection. Superman figured that Wonder Woman would see that there are other alternatives besides killing someone to save the day. This was a person who was a teammate and had a lot of respect for.

Interesting times for the Man of Steel! :p

[Choppa]

I remember reading that Superman Returns is supposed to be a sequel to Superman II that ignores parts III and IV.

But does anyone else get the feeling that it's not really being clearly stated? I don't think the average viewer would realize that it was a sequel unless someone told them, and I think the idea of him returning after an absense is their way of creating ambiguity as to what 'returns' actually means.

I would think that if it does indeed mean 'returns' in the sequel sense, WB really isn't promoting that much. It seems like the trailer and promotional material is ignoring playing up that angle.

Also, assuming this is a sequel, doesn't that mean that all of the crazy stuff from the first two movies is canon? So that scene where he throws his 'S' shield at that guy in Superman II will have actually happened.

[Maleficentogre]

by returns I beleive they mean return as in supes has been gone from metropolis for a long enough time for the city to forget about him. not sure on the sequel or not but I hope the throwing of the shield is 100% canon.

[Deathstroke]

The movie is reportedly set after Superman II and retcons the third and fourth movies.

[SuperManny]

I remember reading that Superman Returns is supposed to be a sequel to Superman II that ignores parts III and IV.

But does anyone else get the feeling that it's not really being clearly stated? I don't think the average viewer would realize that it was a sequel unless someone told them, and I think the idea of him returning after an absense is their way of creating ambiguity as to what 'returns' actually means.

I would think that if it does indeed mean 'returns' in the sequel sense, WB really isn't promoting that much. It seems like the trailer and promotional material is ignoring playing up that angle.

Also, assuming this is a sequel, doesn't that mean that all of the crazy stuff from the first two movies is canon? So that scene where he throws his 'S' shield at that guy in Superman II will have actually happened.

It's been stated several times by the producers that it is a sequel to the original series. It's supposed to take place sometime between Superman II and Superman III, for us continuity buffs. Technically, it's supposed to spin off from part 2 and carry its own continuity from there (frankly, even they agree that those last two should be ignored, like most fans). However, it will be fresh enough for someone who hasn't seen any of them to understand who Superman is and how his powers came to be.

The current teaser trailer was just made for those Superman fans, and it's not supposed to state exactly what the plot is.

There's a good trailer coming out, rumor has it, during the V for Vendetta movie! :eek:

[Choppa]

Oooookay, you guys basically just restated what I said. Here's the question that I'm getting at:

I would think that if it does indeed mean 'returns' in the sequel sense, WB really isn't promoting that much. It seems like the trailer and promotional material is ignoring playing up that angle.

I know that you addressed this Supernanny, but I want opinions on why this isn't being strickly promoted as a full blown sequel. I know one reason is that it will appear to new viewers that way, but c'mon, this is freakin' Superman! And the original series is so popular, how could promoting it that way hurt?

And my second question:

Also, assuming this is a sequel, doesn't that mean that all of the crazy stuff from the first two movies is canon? So that scene where he throws his 'S' shield at that guy in Superman II will have actually happened.

What are your thoughts about all of that stuff being in continuity?

[dancj]

I don't think anyone outside of comic fans really cares about the continuity angle. They all know who Superman is and they'll watch the film not knowing or caring whether it is a new version or a sequel. It wouldn't surprise me if they contradict the original two films - if nothing else in Kevin Spacey's portrayal of Lex Luthor.

[Choppa]

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised either if the contradicted the first two films either. Doesn't that bother anyone?

[Maleficentogre]

As long as it leads to a great movie I don't care if they "retcon" everything out of the first four movies. I trust singer to make a great movie though.

[Choppa]

Okay so then if no one really cares that the early stuff is ignored, then why even bother saying it's a sequel? It seems like everyone wants a fresh start, so why give a half assed attempt at tying it in with the prevoius movies if it will just piss off fans looking for a real sequel?

[SuperManny]

Okay so then if no one really cares that the early stuff is ignored, then why even bother saying it's a sequel? It seems like everyone wants a fresh start, so why give a half assed attempt at tying it in with the prevoius movies if it will just piss off fans looking for a real sequel?

The fresh start angle was avoided because the producers felt the story was told really well the first time around, 30 years ago. Even the special effects back then still stand out, so why bother starting all over again? Why not make a movie that will even draw out the young fans of the '70s who are now in their 50's?

They say it's a sequel to draw out the Christopher Reeve/Superman fans, and they half-ass it to give the people who didn't like them the impression that this will be a refreshing take. Heck, as far as I know, they're doing the origin story but in flashbacks.......so I'm sure the movie could stand out on its own.

:)

[Adrian Tullberg]

I've already started on the parody ...

Scene: a legal firm. Several people are seated while a lawyer is reading aloud from a document titled 'Christopher Reeve's Last Will and Testiment'.

Lawyer: ... and in closing, I beseech that whomever is in charge of the next Superman movie please strike 'Superman III and IV' from continuity.

Several movie executives turn their heads towards Bryan Singer, who shrugs, and starts tearing half the pages from a movie screenplay.

Singer: Don't know about you, but this saves me a shitload of screentime.

Movie Executive: Ah, what's .... you know, 'continuity'?

Singer takes out a cell phone.

Singer: (on phone) Vanessa? Bryan. Looks like I'll be stuck here for a while. Can you do me a favour and reschedule lunch for dinner?

Movie Executive: Can you use the finger puppets again?

Singer: A late dinner.

***

White: I'm the gruff but lovable Editor of the Daily Planet ...

Singer: Ah Hugh? Sorry about this, but Fox recalled you back for the second season of House. We'll get a replacement.

Hugh Laurie: What? Can't you do something about this? I mean, you are the Executive Producer of the bloody show.

Singer: Hugh, if you don't get on that plane, those guys will come to your trailer and break your leg for authenticity.

Hugh: This never happened at the BBC ... well except that one time when someone dinged Rowan Atkinson's MG.

[Choppa]

^Haha, classic.

[SamuelCollins]

Save for the rerecording of the Williams soundtrack and the use Marlon Brando, should it matter if this film does or doesn't take place in the Donner universe? We already know the origin of Superman. We may debate on things like the color of Ma and Pa Kent's farm tractor, the look of the Daily Bugle, or the correct part of Superman's hair, but we all have the same basic understanding of Kal-El's origin. If this were a true restart, we would have to sit through yet another origin story for the guy (when the first one worked perfectly).

I agree-Brian Singer does seem to be playing fast and loose with aspects of the earlier movies. And although you or I might care a bit about how this relates to the movie's overall continuity, general audiences will not. When you get right down to it, though, its not important in the slightest. Everyone knows that in comics an origin and its design seems to change with each artist and writer. This does not negate the past work, however; it is the artists interpretation of that work. The reader, in the end, has to use his imagination to create a "grey area" when combining all the styles.

As long as you keep it in your mind that the first two movies are the character's general story and that the next movie is done by a new "artist," what does it matter concerning Superman's specific continuity? You could even include 3 and 4, if you ask me (although I believe Singer is ignoring those movies due to the subpar quality and his dislike for Donner's past treatment).

When it is all said and done, the general audience will most likely keep the following in mind: its a new, different superman movie with a new director and is the same old Superman they have come to know and love. In fact, I think the only thing people have any real problem with is the costume and actor. But that, faithful readers, is another story.

[Choppa]

Why would Singer have to include the origin if this movie is intended to stand on its own? It is entirely possible for him to make a stand alone movie that starts with his return. I am confident that most movie goers are going to look at it like that and just fill in his origin with the stuff that they already know. Superman is such a popular character that most people won't mind if the basics aren't rehashed again.

[Damo]

All I know is that a couple of weeks ago I had to explain that Superman was from another planet to a kid.

No, everyone does not know he's an alien.

[Grant]

All I know is that a couple of weeks ago I had to explain that Superman was from another planet to a kid.

No, everyone does not know he's an alien.

I think they are going to touch upon his origin. I just don't think they will spend half the movie telling it.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

the look of the Daily Bugle,

INFIDEL!!!!!!! JUDAS!!!!!

How can you confuse Daily Planet with Daily Bugle???? HUH?!

Just messing with you, man. :D

Regarding Superman Returns being a sequel or not, it's been stated that the first movie will be some sort of vague history. The best interpretation that I can give for this, given the fact that the origin story has been totally reshot (I guess), is that the basics of the origin story in Superman: The Movie will be kept intact: Jor-El's conversation with the council, his sending Kal-El to earth, etc. The same for the Lex Luthor part, except that, perhaps, some things have changed, for the sake of the story: Luthor has had his encounters with Superman, but perhaps not in the same way that they were portrayed in the original movie.

[NotSuper]

I wonder just how much of Krypton they'll show. It seems like they've shot some new scenes.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I wonder just how much of Krypton they'll show. It seems like they've shot some new scenes.

Since Jor-El will be Brando, I pretty much doubt that the scenes in which Krypton is destroyed will be reshot. However, and like I said in my previous post, I think that will remain the same, essentially.

[NotSuper]

Since Jor-El will be Brando, I pretty much doubt that the scenes in which Krypton is destroyed will be reshot. However, and like I said in my previous post, I think that will remain the same, essentially.
They've already showed some new scenes of the planet in the teaser trailer. Nothing major, but it is new. I like that they're using the Donner version of Krypton.

[SamuelCollins]

LOL, master of puppets! I dont believe I did that. You know what's funny? I remember typing it and thinking it sounded weird at the time--I just couldn't figure out why.

By the way, I'm not Judas! And how many times do I have to tell you that I dont know Superman?

I dont know Superman!
I dont know Superman!
I dont know Superman!

[666MasterOfPuppets]

LOL, master of puppets! I dont believe I did that. You know what's funny? I remember typing it and thinking it sounded weird at the time--I just couldn't figure out why.

By the way, I'm not Judas! And how many times do I have to tell you that I dont know Superman?

I dont know Superman!
I dont know Superman!
I dont know Superman!

*LOL*

Hehe, I was just messing with you. Those things have happened to me during conversations I've had.

Keepp hanging out around here, and you will know Supes, my friend.




But still, Daily Bugle?? ;) :p

[666MasterOfPuppets]

They've already showed some new scenes of the planet in the teaser trailer. Nothing major, but it is new. I like that they're using the Donner version of Krypton.

Me too. I heard that Donner's Krypton was something that Singer thought as a sacred thing.

[SamuelCollins]

Yeah, I still feel sheepish...lol. What's funny is that I am a supes fan--I still don't know how I did that.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Yeah, I still feel sheepish...lol. What's funny is that I am a supes fan--I still don't know how I did that.

Hehe, perhaps you were thinking about Spider-Man 3?

[Absalom]

Variety has recently informed that Bryan Singer invited Hugh Jackman to play Jonathan Kent in a flashback-scene for Superman Returns.

[beccagirl33]

hi there,

has everyone checked out the great downloads on the official superman returns site... you should if you want to support the movie! They're free and awesome...

http://supermanreturns.warnerbros.c...uperman_returns

[Spike-X]

Yes I have, thanks Spam Girl!

[Spike-X]

And I gotta say, they're really not that awesome. A few wallpapers and some AIM (who even uses that, anyway?) buddy icons.

[NotSuper]

Me too. I heard that Donner's Krypton was something that Singer thought as a sacred thing.
I've always liked "Crystal Krypton" and the way the Kryptonians acted in the movie. They were alien without being the cliche "cold and unemotional" aliens that we constantly see in movies and TV.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

And I gotta say, they're really not that awesome. A few wallpapers and some AIM (who even uses that, anyway?) buddy icons.

Agree. Although the wp's and the teaser poster are incredibly cool, that part of the site is crying for some updating.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

I've always liked "Crystal Krypton" and the way the Kryptonians acted in the movie. They were alien without being the cliche "cold and unemotional" aliens that we constantly see in movies and TV.

Yeah. Kryptonians looked like the highly advanced civilization they are, with the elaborate vocabulary and stuff.

[Drifter]

Just a heads up to anyone hitting the movies this weekend. You might have to unwilling hand Tom Cruise some of your hard earned cash to get an awsome glimpse of Superman in action.

Heres the News~
ComingSoon.net's Superhero Hype! has confirmed that the new Superman Returns trailer will be enclosed in the can with Paramount's Mission: Impossible III, opening next Friday, May 5th and will also be attached to all prints of WB's Poseidon the following week, on Friday, May 12th.

Warner Bros. has the trailer listed as 2 minutes and 28 seconds. Theaters will have access to it in digital format, so if you have the chance to catch Mission: Impossible III on a digital screen (it's going out to 135 digital theaters), then definitely do so!

Superman Returns flies into theaters, IMAX and IMAX 3D on June 30th.

[stealthwise]

Or you know... I could wait the extra half-day and just see it online.

[Drifter]

Or you know... I could wait the extra half-day and just see it online.

From what I've heard, the trailer wont make its online debut untill the following Friday. Where it will also be attatched to Posiedon.

Also may make appearances before that aswell on weekday entertainment news shows.

But in my opinion atleast, nothin can get you more hyped then seeing the actual trailer on the big screen :D

[stealthwise]

There are tons of people who leak such things, and they're not that hard to get a hold of.

I'd rather not pay $10 just to see a 2.5 minute clip of something that I can easily wait for. Thanks for the info though.

[Damo]

...there's an MI3? >_<

It made Jim Phelps the villain. Jim Phelps. That's the reason nobody from the original TV wanted anything to do with the movie. It's like if Star Trek: The Motion Picture had ended with Kirk betraying the crew to the Klingons, blowing up the Enterprise, and being taken down by a younger more Hollywood-friendly captain. Vey.

Just get the clip online.

[ScottDMSimmons]

It made Jim Phelps the villain. Jim Phelps. That's the reason nobody from the original TV wanted anything to do with the movie. It's like if Star Trek: The Motion Picture had ended with Kirk betraying the crew to the Klingons, blowing up the Enterprise, and being taken down by a younger more Hollywood-friendly captain. Vey.

But to be fair, he DID blow up the Enterprise. And made Scotty help him...

Scott

[Rylon]

If that had been the plot for Star Trek: The Motion Picture, it would have been a lot less boring.

[acagle7]

I think I'll just wait until the full trailer is online.

[Justin Davis]

I'll either see it online or wait to see it before Poseidon as it looks much better than MI:3. Then again, that's not hard to do.

[Sean Walsh]

I'd rather watch it for free a few weeks online from now rather than pay money towards a Tom Cruise movie...

[Connor28]

Whats wrong with Tom Cruise? I thought Minority Report was great!

Waaaaay of topic here.

Good news about the superman trailer, i did find the original a bit frustrating because of the lack of any real action senes, hopefully this one wont be similar.

[spideyrules99]

Good news about the superman trailer, i did find the original a bit frustrating because of the lack of any real action senes, hopefully this one wont be similar.


I thought that about almost all of the Superman movies. They were not that great.
There I said it. The Superman movies were not that great.

[filthysize]

Ahem: http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/superman_returns/superman_returns-tlr2_h.640.mov

[filthysize]

About the trailer: I like it, and I smiled at the cheeseball joke at the end. But what's up with crazy face Luthor? I sincerely hope he's not like that for the entire movie.

[Connor28]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Must.....see.....new.....Superman......Movie......

[shadow of a madman]

I think maybye Spacey's Luthor is a little jokey and emotional(with the yelling,and all)but you can't forget this is just a trailer.A few seconds of footage from a 90 minute movie.I think he's a good choice and I'm looking forward to this immensly.

The fact that Singer is smart enough to keep Brandow as Jor-El inspires great faith.I mean,Marlon Brandow is DEAD!He's passed on,he has ceased to be.He is an ex Brandow.(sorry.Random Python moment)But anyway,it would have been SO easy to re-cast Jor-El.But instead he got permisson from MB's estate,dug up some old footage and dialogue and used Bradnow.Why?Because Marlow Brandow makes a good Jor-El.He had the money that he could put him in their,so he did.Nice:D

And the fact that he used the original music enforces my point.You can't improve on that piece.It's THE Superman music.

This gives me great hope for the film,and I'm dying to see it

[chriskenny]

Superman Returns review. (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23229) Spoilers abound.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

In some ways, I'm kind of glad the film is getting bad buzz, as it keeps my expectations from being too high. This way, when I actually see the movie, I'll likely be pleasantly surprised.

[NotSuper]

In some ways, I'm kind of glad the film is getting bad buzz, as it keeps my expectations from being too high. This way, when I actually see the movie, I'll likely be pleasantly surprised.
I don't see it getting bad buzz. From what I've seen on the various boards and fans in general there's a huge degree of excitement. I've seen people that know next to nothing about Superman talk about this movie--kids, teenagers, and adults. I've seen SOME negative stuff but it's been fairly isolated. Heck, most of the complaints I've seen are either about the costume or the youthfulness of the cast. That gives me a large degree of hope (it kind of reminds me of the initial reaction towards X-Men). But like everything we'll have to wait and see to be sure.

As for Ain't It Cool News, Singer was right when he advised Ratner not to read the site. Granted, we don't know if X-Men 3 will be good or bad, but the advice is still good. That's not to say that a director should ignore the Internet--far from it--but unless a movie is getting panned in at least 7 out of 10 sites, he shouldn't take it too seriously. The first script leaked to the Internet (the one where Krypton doesn't blow up, ect), for example, was nearly universally panned and deservedly so.

That's all I really have to say about the matter.

[chriskenny]

In some ways, I'm kind of glad the film is getting bad buzz, as it keeps my expectations from being too high. This way, when I actually see the movie, I'll likely be pleasantly surprised.


????? I thought it was a very positive review!

[beccagirl33]

Do you all have any thoughts on the video journals on the official site? I think they're pretty great?...

if you haven't checked them out, go to:

http://supermanreturns.warnerbros.co...turns&site=roo
ts

[SuperManny]

Superhero Hype.com has posted the titles of the songs that will be included in the soundtrack of Superman Returns. Thought it would be an interesting addition to this thread:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/supermannews.php?id=4304

;)

[666MasterOfPuppets]

The official one-sheet poster has been published on IGN Filmforce. And a low-quality capture of the THIRD trailer is on YouTube. The International trailer can be seen at Superman Homepage.

[Ravenheart]

Has it been listed anywhere what the length of the movie will be?I checked at IMDB but they don't have anything.I'm guessing between 2 and 2 1/2 hours.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Has it been listed anywhere what the length of the movie will be?I checked at IMDB but they don't have anything.I'm guessing between 2 and 2 1/2 hours.

155 minutes, IIRC.

[iain63]

Tom Welling is so damn hot! I think it'll be a great great movie. Im a superman fanatic and I will definitely see this film myself!!

[dancj]

155 minutes, IIRC.
According to something I read somewhere on this site today (probably Comics Reel) It's currently at 3 hours, but Singer has been ordered to cut it down to two and a half hours

Dan

[666MasterOfPuppets]

According to something I read somewhere on this site today (probably Comics Reel) It's currently at 3 hours, but Singer has been ordered to cut it down to two and a half hours

Dan

A pity. We'll have to wait for the DVD to see the +30 mins that Signer had to cut out.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Tom Welling is so damn hot! I think it'll be a great great movie. Im a superman fanatic and I will definitely see this film myself!!

First, welcome to the boards.

Second: what's Tom Welling got to do with Superman Returns?