Mutant Liberation Front Appreciation

[Monty_Cristo]

poll on the way

i was just feeling nostalgic. so anything M.L.F-related is on topic, here. Who is your favorite member of the M.L.F (and why)? who was the better leader; Stryfe, Reignfire, Moonstar, or other? is it still a viable concept? who should join the team?

note: i left rusty and skids off the poll in part due to space and them being brainwashed.

[Prodigy55]

i like the originals in all their liefeld glory, but dani is my favourite single member.

[Monty_Cristo]

my favorite was Wildside. i liked his buddy relationship wtih Reaper. they both always seemed to be having fun on missions (well until Pantu loses a limb).
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/138710-153589-wildside.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5586/1539462-ws3.jpg

[Monty_Cristo]

i like the originals in all their liefeld glory, but dani is my favourite single member.

i wonder if the others would consider her a member; given that she was a SHIELD spy at the time.

[Rasputin9977]

Man Liefeld sure created a lot of awesome characters. Kirkman is right, Liefeld wad the Kirby of the '90s.

[jstar!!]

So easily Tempo. If she could ever escape that bullet head outfit she might be a villain (?) to watch.

[Prodigy55]

tempo has one of the best costumes ever

[tlp0708]

<3! I can't pick just one though! I love Moonstar, Tempo, Dragoness, and Locus.

[jstar!!]

She looks like a dildo trophy.

[MartinRedmond]

Voted Tempo. I like all of the MLF as villains. They're Rob Liefeld's greatest contribution to Marvel.

I like Nasty Boyz too.

[Monty_Cristo]

tempo has one of the best costumes ever

i like it; simple but memorable.

[Monty_Cristo]

Voted Tempo. I like all of the MLF as villains. They're Rob Liefeld's greatest contribution to Marvel.

I like Nasty Boyz too.

Slab and crew are on-topic, as well. he and Hairbag were unofficial members once Sinister cut them loose.

[Nevets F]

I would have gone with Skids and Firefist, but because of the brainwashing I decided to go with Tempo.

[Jack Flash]

Forearm. Mike rocked. Does anyone remember Tempo's FUGLY costume? Lol. It debuted in that cable miniseries. It was never seen again.

[Jack Flash]

Afro-puff Locus rocked too!

[fortyseven]

I can't choose between Tempo, Feral, Wildside, Forarm, Zero and Moonstar.

[Prodigy55]

no love for sumo? idek who he is!

[Monty_Cristo]

no love for sumo? idek who he is!

he's part of the original asian contingent. he (Jun Tenta), Kamikaze (aka Samurai), and Dragoness all used to hang out; separate from the rest of the group. Kamikaze lost his head. and Sumo was shot in the head. it's kind of sad because, besides Fat Cobra (and that Rising Suns guy), there aren't too many super sumo around. and i wanted to know more about his powers. wiki says that he could increase his mass and density. i never saw any evidence; just him being big and strong. i wonder if he's any relation to Fred Dukes.

http://www.comicvine.com/sumo/29-27461/

[Monty_Cristo]

Forearm. Mike rocked. Does anyone remember Tempo's FUGLY costume? Lol. It debuted in that cable miniseries. It was never seen again.

the heavily armored blocky segmented one? she's lucky she wore it; saved her from getting shot like Reaper and Sumo.

[Monty_Cristo]

I can't choose between Tempo, Feral, Wildside, Forarm, Zero and Moonstar.

i liked Zero up until the point where they outed him as a robot. i was hoping that there was a personality beneath that plain white suit. oh well. :shrugs:
they have Locus as a replacement 'porter.

[Monty_Cristo]

if i could add anyone to the Mutant Liberation Front (after repowering them), it would be Marrow and Abyss. i think they were around the right age and temperament for it. Abyss seems like he'd get along well enough with Reaper.

[Cayman]

Zero is the man!

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l133ovIfIf1qzniqdo1_500.jpg

[Monty_Cristo]

Zero is the man!

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l133ovIfIf1qzniqdo1_500.jpg

i just realized that i have that costume (Zero's) but i didn't draw a circle on mine. i bought it from some weird website that sold spider-man replica costumes, as well. i didn't like how it looked when zipped up (didn't conform well enough to the neck).

[fortyseven]

if i could add anyone to the Mutant Liberation Front (after repowering them), it would be Marrow and Abyss. i think they were around the right age and temperament for it. Abyss seems like he'd get along well enough with Reaper.

Marrow and Abyss did team up with Reaper in X-Factor at one point!

[Monty_Cristo]

Marrow and Abyss did team up with Reaper in X-Factor at one point!

it's just not the same. :(

[ohsnapulon5000]

Tempo clearly was the breakout star of this bunch. She was the MLF's Jean Grey for sure.

I am currently doodling Tempo:First Class. Hope to have it up to read soon.

[MartinRedmond]

Cable, Domino, Deadpool... they ALL suck! The MLF should've gotten all those minis and ongoings.


i just realized that i have that costume (Zero's) but i didn't draw a circle on mine.

Did u at least wear a cup? Zero rocks, so did Thumbelina, Wildside, the racially offensive Kamikaze, Rusty, Skids, the list goes on.

[Swashbuckler]

I love the MLF. Why this group hasn't reformed and terrorized some political person I don't know. I'm sure Feral would up for joining again.

[Prodigy55]

The New Hellions need to be folded into the MLF.

[NewMutant]

MLF is awesome. Come back!

[baltiroo]

Tempo FTW. Always liked her so much.

[Monty_Cristo]

I love the MLF. Why this group hasn't reformed and terrorized some political person I don't know. I'm sure Feral would up for joining again.

i blame M Day scattering everyone.

[Monty_Cristo]

The New Hellions need to be folded into the MLF.

out of them, i'll take Switch and Feral. Tarot will always be hellion or hellfire club-related to me.

[Electric Version]

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/f/ff/Strobe_(Earth-616).jpg

I always thought Strobe looked like Peg Bundy.

[MartinRedmond]

I feel bad I voted for Dragoness when she had 3 votes. So many are left without one.:frown:

[Prodigy55]

out of them, i'll take Switch and Feral. Tarot will always be hellion or hellfire club-related to me.

What about Paradigm? He can be friends with Zero.

[Monty_Cristo]

What about Paradigm? He can be friends with Zero.

he left for outerspace, remember? plus, he/she/it wasn't a mutant.

[Monty_Cristo]

http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/f/ff/Strobe_(Earth-616).jpg

I always thought Strobe looked like Peg Bundy.

maybe that's why she was always such a ***** to Thumbelina.

[Silent Sigh]

I always loved Dragoness' look. Her wings, her mask, etc.

But I just read about her during X-Cutioner's song, I would like to see her more in the X-Books.

[MartinRedmond]

Dragoness was one sexay lady, Silent Sigh. On her first appearance (New Mutants#93)Sam seduced the keys right off her. Which was obviously an excuse for Sam to cuddle up to her and drive BoomBoom mad with jealousy.

I'd post scans but I think thats' the one issue I am missing in my Rob Liefeld collection.

[Silent Sigh]

Dragoness was one sexay lady, Silent Sigh. On her first appearance (New Mutants#93)Sam seduced the keys right off her. Which was obviously an excuse for Sam to cuddle up to her and drive BoomBoom mad with jealousy.

I'd post scans but I think thats' the one issue I am missing in my Rob Liefeld collection.

I'm going to do some research, thanks!!:biggrin:

[Monty_Cristo]

it's a shame that we never got Dragoness' reaction to the deaths of Sumo and Kamikazee. i also wonder why she ended up as Wildside's girlfriend (and dressing like Strobe). that was strange.

[Jack Flash]

What ever happened to Strobe? poor Sumo.

[Ayo]

i liked Zero up until the point where they outed him as a robot. i was hoping that there was a personality beneath that plain white suit. oh well. :shrugs:
they have Locus as a replacement 'porter.

Ugh. Making Zero a robot was such a bad story idea. I really wanted "him" to have some story behind being there.

Anyway, I voted Feral because she's my favorite character in general.

[Klayne]

Paradigm is dead: Ellis killed him during his terrible story with the bio-sentinels in Astonishing.

[ohsnapulon5000]

So easily Tempo. If she could ever escape that bullet head outfit she might be a villain (?) to watch.
i feel the helmet might be a mainstay for the character's general iconic aesthetic if they ever decided to mainstream her. They should at least sleek it up a bit into a collapseable visor of some sort.


Forearm. Mike rocked. Does anyone remember Tempo's FUGLY costume? Lol. It debuted in that cable miniseries. It was never seen again.
this one?
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5586/1539271-tem1.jpg
This is actually my preferred Tempo costume. better than the banana dildo costume she's had for the past few years...

[Monty_Cristo]

i feel the helmet might be a mainstay for the character's general iconic aesthetic if they ever decided to mainstream her. They should at least sleek it up a bit into a collapseable visor of some sort.


this one?
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5586/1539271-tem1.jpg
This is actually my preferred Tempo costume. better than the banana dildo costume she's had for the past few years...

i'm pretty sure he's refering to the one that she wore in the same Cable issues that Sumo died in. it was orange, gold, and bulky.

[BLACKWINGS]

The MLF are long overdue for a momentous return. The X-Men comics are in dire need of better class villians than flu-viruses and Breakworld aliens.

Zero was definitely my favorite - but I've always had a soft spot for others like Tempo, Feral, Reaper, and Forearm. Zero has managed to have my interests from the beginning to the end. From ADAM prototype of tomorrow to an active member of the MLF and Stryfe's personal assistant/computer/library/weapon of today. From activation, to deactivation, to reactivation, to self-desctruction - Zero was just interesting.

[ohsnapulon5000]

Marvel needs to repopulate the 616 with mutants before the MLF makes a proper rentrance to the books. They just don't makea lot of sense if there's nobody to liberate, y'know? Prematurely, we could have Uncanny filled with a 2 dimensional team of terrorists just effing things up becuase the writers need some stock baddies to fight. Tempo deserves better than to be "Chimera'd" back into the X-books.

[TJKernan]

Loved MLF, especially Reaper. The fact he got a lot of face time and fleshed-out in The New Exiles (underappreciated series, go get it) was sweet for me.

I miss that guy.

[BLACKWINGS]

Marvel needs to repopulate the 616 with mutants before the MLF makes a proper rentrance to the books. They just don't makea lot of sense if there's nobody to liberate, y'know? Prematurely, we could have Uncanny filled with a 2 dimensional team of terrorists just effing things up becuase the writers need some stock baddies to fight. Tempo deserves better than to be "Chimera'd" back into the X-books.

I would actually like somebody to come along and "liberate" the 200 mutants standing around on Utopia from dieing a slow and boring death.

[TJKernan]

I would actually like somebody to come along and "liberate" the 200 mutants standing around on Utopia from dieing a slow and boring death.

Agreed, Reaper, Fatale, and Abyss need to come back, round 'em up the ones worth keeping, and get off the Wallpaper Society...

[Monty_Cristo]

Loved MLF, especially Reaper. The fact he got a lot of face time and fleshed-out in The New Exiles (underappreciated series, go get it) was sweet for me.

I miss that guy.

i just like the name Pantu Hurageb.

[Monty_Cristo]

Marvel needs to repopulate the 616 with mutants before the MLF makes a proper rentrance to the books. They just don't makea lot of sense if there's nobody to liberate, y'know? Prematurely, we could have Uncanny filled with a 2 dimensional team of terrorists just effing things up becuase the writers need some stock baddies to fight. Tempo deserves better than to be "Chimera'd" back into the X-books.

hate to break it to you but they didn't do a whole lot of "liberating." it's just a fancy name like "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants." they were a loosely organized terror cell. they basically attacked military and private research installations with an anti-mutant bent. not that i'd be against there being more mutants. but don't get caught up in the semantics of the name. the individual members weren't that deep. they were youngsters (relatively) who were basically looking to use their powers in destructive manners with "fighting for mutankind" as an excuse.

[ohsnapulon5000]

point taken. I think I just wanted there to be more to their actions than there actually was in retrospect. I feel like I remember there being at least the thin veil of pretense that the were actually bringing some mutants amnesty through their actions but yeah...bycnh o' kids wanting to prove a point with their powerz...

Maybe (and this is another investigation into the semantics of the name) Mutant Liberation could stand for the philosophical liberation of Mutant kind, like the Women's Liberation of the 60's etc? A kind of social movement that sweeps a few mutants that eventually leads to more nihilistic exploding of goverment agencies but that is at least more relevant in purpose than it's former incarnation.

I just feel like the X-books are so self referential these days that there is no way that anyone in the 616 would let a agroup with the MLF's name live it out without questioning it's title in accord with it's actions.

[MartinRedmond]

They liberated Rusty and Skids from governmental opression while ASSclops sat on his ass.

[MartinRedmond]

Zero was definitely my favorite

Me too, when I first quit comics, I was excited to buy the Excalibur issues he appeared in, iirc.

http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/30205696326.79.GIF

[Push You Down]

Afro-puff Locus rocked too!

Yep.

I think the MLF could really use a revamp.

[Whim]

a couple times in late X-Force I thought Tempo and Forearm had potential to be heroes or at least good supporting characters. nothing panned out with Tempo. Forearm could have been a good friend to Dani. Dragoness should be around more too. whatever happened to Strobe? last I remember was X-Cutioner's song.

would have liked to have seen more of the team led by Wildside. he always had a good dynamic with Reaper.

[ohsnapulon5000]

Never Forget!
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/181155-178016-mutant-liberation-fr.jpg

[Meehl]

Tempo will be retconned to be a young impressionable Dr. Reyes.

[Pixie_Solanas]

Selby sounds like a real winner.

[MartinRedmond]

They should've gotten their own ongoing by now!:mad:

[ohsnapulon5000]

Bump this 'preciation thread! All night long! YOWWW!

*ahem*
So Wildside basically devovles a person's conscience until they just become inhibitionless animals, right? Limbic, most basic of the basic? how would that work against characters like Emma, Pixie, etc? What do you think that would make them act like?

[ohsnapulon5000]

Most STYLISH band of mutants to come out of the 90's? eh? ehhh?

[MartinRedmond]

MLF+Nasty Boys 4ever

[Monty_Cristo]

Selby sounds like a real winner.

he is. and one of the rare intelligent fat people in comics.

[Monty_Cristo]

Most STYLISH band of mutants to come out of the 90's? eh? ehhh?

i still give that title to the Nasty Boys.

[Monty_Cristo]

Bump this 'preciation thread! All night long! YOWWW!

*ahem*
So Wildside basically devovles a person's conscience until they just become inhibitionless animals, right? Limbic, most basic of the basic? how would that work against characters like Emma, Pixie, etc? What do you think that would make them act like?

Wildside just psionically alters people's senses. it's like a mutant version of LSD; auditory and visual hallucinations, disorientation, loss of balance, etc. Wildside, himself, is an inhibition free animal.

[MartinRedmond]

FXU, UXF, that book should've been the MLF's.

[Prodigy55]

The MLF would kick UXF's ass all day.

[MartinRedmond]

UXF's next hit is most likely some little old lady who looked at them the wrong way. "SHE'S THE REINCARNATION OF BASTION!!!" "SHE'S NOT BLEEDING! It's OIL!! IT'S OIL!!!"

[Flick]

Never Forget!
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/181155-178016-mutant-liberation-fr.jpg

I love Larry Stroman's art. A lot of people hate his stuff and I can see why but I always appreciated it's quirky feel. Would it be fair to call him the Sienkiewicz of the 90's?

Anyways, I voted Tempo but I liked them all for what they were. I always wanted Tempo to join X-Force back in the day just based on Cable offering her a place on the team that one time. I also really enjoy the X-Factor issues where they fight the MLF, because it showed that Heather really did join the team for the right reasons, and it gave her some development when those cookie cutter villains didn't get any.

The X-men need some straight up crazy terrorist villains to even out the other high minded problems they deal with.

[Lyrd]

Tempo then Reaper.

I'd like Tempo to reform the MLF, Forearm to join her.


And Reaper... I just want him to come back so Shatterstar can amputate his other limbs.

[ohsnapulon5000]

i have a feeling that with the way the x-books are going to be spread, there is going to be more of a need for villains to come out of the woodwork. with the ties that the MLF had to the old X-force, I think Remender or PAD could easily re introduce them in either of their books, respectively. Though my money would be on them showing up in X-Factor before UXF.

[Prodigy55]

RIP tempo! Do you think she's dead or just lost somewhere?

[Lyrd]

Though my money would be on them showing up in X-Factor before UXF.

I think this as well. Maybe with some kind of X-Cell story thing.

[fortyseven]

RIP tempo! Do you think she's dead or just lost somewhere?

I like to think that she's with Feral in the afterlife. Feral is trying to make a deal with gods/goddesses to get them ressurected together.

[ohsnapulon5000]

RIP tempo! Do you think she's dead or just lost somewhere?

Apparently...mike carey has stated repeatedly that her death was indeed "real" and is meant to be interpreted that way. which sounds like a bummer but it also kind of sounds like more misdirecting bull. I mean, why would her death be the only one that stuck after the multiple deaths in AoX?
Ghost rider isn't dead is he? Same for domino, etc...

It sounds like he fed her to Rogue, his stupid baby, and was going to use her for an eventual slow burn side story, and then before he had something to do with her- is exiting the book. another dangling plot line.

my guess is she is part of the new little army Magneto is building against Hope. She'll be around (and better than ever) when the time is right. The girl only shows up for the big crossovers anyhow.

[fortyseven]

I mean, why would her death be the only one that stuck after the multiple deaths in AoX?
Ghost rider isn't dead is he? Same for domino, etc...

Those deaths were fake memories.
And Domino didn't die.

[ohsnapulon5000]

I think this as well. Maybe with some kind of X-Cell story thing.

Entirely too many characters from that story line, and that book, have ties to the MLF. plus X-Factor could stand to deal with more mutant centric issues every now and then.

Although with the MLF in UXF, we'd get to see Tempo, Reaper and the gang rendered in some gorgeous Opena artwork with their powersets on full tilt display...

[MartinRedmond]

Who should lead the new MLF? I don't want Stryfe leading it anymore because he's a Summers. Exodus has been proven a fool to many times...

[ohsnapulon5000]

Tempo character development=
http://cdn103.iofferphoto.com/img/item/150/255/725/c6Vsex4TYahi5XI.jpg
+
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r73760wqYIE/TneV1WcOm2I/AAAAAAAATtQ/FVI4pG3w-Yo/s640/young+diana+ross.jpg
frail, tempermental little nutjob with delusions of grandeur? make it so marvel!

Who should lead the new MLF? I don't want Stryfe leading it anymore because he's a Summers. Exodus has been proven a fool to many times...

someone with VISION:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XKWAYv4Ac7o/TqhGlqcHAPI/AAAAAAAAKgM/Sc42wASqayo/s400/empyrean.jpg

[Faded]

Learn more about your favorite MLF-er, Thumbelina (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=12&fldAuto=214) over at uncannyxmen.net!

I bet Nyssane only likes em tall and skinny nowadays. :(

[Monty_Cristo]

Who should lead the new MLF? I don't want Stryfe leading it anymore because he's a Summers. Exodus has been proven a fool to many times...

Johnny Dee. why? because the M.L.F have a history of being taken advantage of. Dee is a bonafide creep. he's also not a mutant; just his conjoined twin. but with him as the behind-the-scenes-guy, it allows more focus on the actual MLF'ers.

[Monty_Cristo]

Learn more about your favorite MLF-er, Thumbelina (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=12&fldAuto=214) over at uncannyxmen.net!

I bet Nyssane only likes em tall and skinny nowadays. :(

something i've always wondered about the name controversy. i remember when first reading those X-Factor issues that revealed Hairbag and Slab's real names that Slab's last name was 'Suggs.' i only remember it because i wouldn't have expected Hairbag to have so ordinary a name as 'Anderson.' but, if you read the actual text, the lawyers are referring to them in a way that suggests that Hairbag's last name is 'Anderson' and Slab's is 'Suggs.' does anyone have a scan? that particular issue didn't survive after i left for college.