Darwyn Cooke speaks on New Frontier's collected format

[cactusmaac]

Here.

http://www.millarworld.net/index.php?showtopic=43950&st=20#

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Idea of . . . Absolute Edition . . . with 48 extra pages . . . and DC possibly passing on it . . .

I think my brain just imploded.

[Adam Crocker]

Market research (why does that term make me want to castrate someone)

Because it's the catch-all justification for "Let's do something silly and non-sensical," such as splitting up the collection of New Frontier even though Long Halloween, Dark Victory, and Superman: Birthright got a single HC collection and had hefty page counts.

I could wrap my head around the logic he gave for the bookstores, but after Cact brought up those examples my brain got side-swiped.

[Corrina]

ARGH!!

48 pages of material still out there??? And we can't see it???????????

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

I have all the issues. And I'm going to get both hardcover editions because I love this series that much.

[Clear]

I think DC is exactly right to split it up for the trades based on how they understand the market to act. There's no reason the hardcover edition should be anything other than one book, though.

[ratzo]

And it's not like these are unfamiliar, obscure or brand new characters. This is the DC Universe - the big guns, the heroes everyone knows. So that part about it being an "unproven product" doesn't sit right with me. If Fantagraphics - a smaller pub, with fewer resources - can come out with giant (and I mean HUGE) hardcover Love (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/156097611X/qid=1104868438/br=1-13/ref=br_lf_b_13//103-4977662-5465457?v=glance&s=books&n=4391) and Rockets (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560975393/ref=pd_sim_b_1/103-4977662-5465457?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance) collections, why can't DC do the same with a story featuring the likes of Superman and Batman?

[blackcanary_416]

I'll just get the two books but it is a shame it wasn't released as one volume the way I imagined it would be. Oh well but one great comic!

[The Xenos]

Mass marketing makes me want to castrate people too. Ah, good old DC.

Man, I would be quite interested in that Absolute Edition and I bought all the $7 issues.

-Xenos

[WSLer]

And it's not like these are unfamiliar, obscure or brand new characters. This is the DC Universe - the big guns, the heroes everyone knows. So that part about it being an "unproven product" doesn't sit right with me. If Fantagraphics - a smaller pub, with fewer resources - can come out with giant (and I mean HUGE) hardcover Love (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/156097611X/qid=1104868438/br=1-13/ref=br_lf_b_13//103-4977662-5465457?v=glance&s=books&n=4391) and Rockets (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560975393/ref=pd_sim_b_1/103-4977662-5465457?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance) collections, why can't DC do the same with a story featuring the likes of Superman and Batman?

Because while Love and Rockets has a much smaller fan/circulation base then Batman/Superman etc, they are much more devoted and therefore much more likely to spring for a hardcover, while the Batman/Superman fan is much more of a casual reader/fan.

[ratzo]

Eh... I don't buy that (no pun intended). I suspect that Fantagraphics probably works harder to promote the L&R hardcovers because they're not as well known as Superman, Batman, etc., and as a result, the real mainstream press writes them up. I don't see that same level of promotion by DC outside of the comics industry, at least not for New Frontier. And like Adam Flex said, other comparable mini-series have been collected in a single volume.

[ElijahS23]

To see the extra material on NF!!!!!!!!!! I'm on board w/ ya'll :p
And thanks for that update, Cactus!

[Brian Cronin]

So it's a silly move (note that I think it is a silly move no matter what answer Cooke gave), AND the creator was against it?

Makes sense to me that DC would go that direction.

-Brian

[thehod]

There are some TPB, that, by necessaty, must be spilt. Knightfall, No Mans Land, etc due to the vast size of the story.

However, Hush and New Frontier have no more pages than Long Haloween or Dark Victory, so why the need to spilt? Of course, its down to cash. Two books at fifteen quid a pop is better than one book at twenty five.

I haven't bought or read Hush and while its in two volumes, and bloody thin volumes for fifteen quid, I don't intend to.

I really, really want to read NF, but until its collected, then I'm gonna leave that one alone as well.

[dancj]

I'll get this one anyway - but this habit of chopping stories in half has cost DC any chance of me buying Hush. I think there were one or two Superman stories I'm not buying for the same reason

[Loren]

AARRGGHH!!!

I've been holding out for a hardcover, and the thought that Darwyn Cooke *wanted* a hardcover, an "absolute" edition at that, and was willing to prepare nearly an entire new issue's worth of material for the hardcover, and that DC's response was to say that that wouldn't sell at Barnes & Noble???

Here's my favorite part of what Cooke had to say:

The single issues are considered direct market product, and the version of the series aimed at die hard direct market consumers.

The trades, though available to the direct market, are really geared towards the bookchains and mass consumers.

Market research (why does that term make me want to castrate someone) indicates that Bookstore buyers have a psychological price threshold of about 20 bucks for and unproven product. If they like it, they will pick up volume two, but apparently a single volume would have a price that discouraged many casual (mass market) readers.

Did DC forget that "New Frontier" is primarily a book for people who already read comic books? Comic fans *loved* this book, but I imagine your average Borders reader who happened to pick it up would just think it was nice.

And after all the comparisons to other books, given Cooke's behind-the-scenes info, I think "Birthright" may be the best one. If DC were truly interested in gearing collections toward mass consumers, and keeping prices below $20, then why on earth did they release a $30 hardcover of "Birthright" just two months ago?

For that matter, if this is DC's new policy, then I expect that we'll see no more $25 original graphic novels with 96 pages of material inside. Y'know, like "JLA: Earth 2" or "Selina's Big Score" or others that were infinitely more forgettable.

I wanted a hardcover of "New Frontier" and a tpb of "Birthright." Those would seem like the rational formats to release in. But due to DC's "market research," I'm buying neither book.

Meanwhile, over on Marvel's side of the aisle, they continue to print their oversized hardcovers, and March brings a second $30 hardcover of Busiek's and Perez's run on "Avengers," which is 336 pages long.

Loren

[Clear]

A $40 trade screams "keep out! fanatics only!" to average consumers. That's just reality. I don't know how you or I can consider ourselves to be in a position to refute that. To me, it's just self-evident that a $40 price point eliminates the possibility of an impulse buy or a purchase by a casual reader. The people with hard sales data in their hands, who are paid to do this all day, came to a decision after looking at the facts. I'm not saying that they're infallible. I'm saying that they have a lot more proof in their hands than our "but I waaaant it that way".

The fact that some big trades have been released in the past doesn't mean anything. In fact, it means that DC has tried what you recommend and the tactic came up short after they weighed the data. They've tried it your way and they have reason to believe that the results fell short. I'd think you'd have more grounds to be critical if they had never tried it.

If you want a $60-$80 hardcover single edition, I'm all for that, too. That should absolutely be a single volume, because its audience is the already on the hook. This book is certainly deserving of that treatment, but the chances that someone who hasn't already picked up the single issues will buy that are slim to none, unless you count the tiny number of nutjobs like us that hang out on a comics boards. :p

[RustyShackleford]

Well, count me as someone who subscribes to the $20 threshold and probably would not have purchased New Frontier in one volume for $30 to $40. Not when the same amount of money would get me two other trades or three mangas. That's part of the Barnes & Noble factor that Darwin was probably refering to.

The only purchases I make over $20 are for archives.

[Loren]

If you want a $60-$80 hardcover single edition, I'm all for that, too. That should absolutely be a single volume, because its audience is the already on the hook. This book is certainly deserving of that treatment, but the chances that someone who hasn't already picked up the single issues will buy that are slim to none, unless you count the tiny number of nutjobs like us that hang out on a comics boards. :p

That's really where I stand on this. There should be a hardcover edition for real fans, and trade paperbacks for the bookstore crowd.

And traditionally, DC's approach has been to release a hardcover first, and then release a tpb several months later. It's the same approach that regular books use, putting out a $22 book a year or so before a mass-market paperback.

DC has used this approach with several books even recently. I've already referred to "Birthright." "Hush" was first released in hardcovers, and I believe the same is true of "For Tomorrow." Heck, DC has been releasing hardcovers of "Superman/Batman" story arcs long before tpbs, and I've never heard anybody clamoring for a hardcover of that series.

If DC's plan is to release a hardcover later this year, fantastic. Hopefully it'll have Cooke's extra material. But if they decide to *only* release the two tpbs, I'll be really peeved. It would be poor business to release only an expensive hardcover edition, and I think it's poor business to release only a pair of tpbs.

Loren

[RustyShackleford]

And it's not like these are unfamiliar, obscure or brand new characters. This is the DC Universe - the big guns, the heroes everyone knows. So that part about it being an "unproven product" doesn't sit right with me. If Fantagraphics - a smaller pub, with fewer resources - can come out with giant (and I mean HUGE) hardcover Love (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/156097611X/qid=1104868438/br=1-13/ref=br_lf_b_13//103-4977662-5465457?v=glance&s=books&n=4391) and Rockets (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560975393/ref=pd_sim_b_1/103-4977662-5465457?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance) collections, why can't DC do the same with a story featuring the likes of Superman and Batman?

But it's not like Superman and Batman are the focus of New Frontier, are they? I haven't read it yet so I honestly don't know, but all the preview pages and blurbs I saw over the last year presented a smorgasbord of DC characters. And the cover for Volume 1 puts S+B in the background. If someone really likes Superman and Batman but could care less about the Challengers of the Unknown and the Losers, New Frontier doesn't look like it would be the book for them.

[ratzo]

No, they're not the main focus, but they're undeniably there, as are other familiar characters like the Flash and Wonder Woman and Green Lantern.

[dancj]

And after all the comparisons to other books, given Cooke's behind-the-scenes info, I think "Birthright" may be the best one. If DC were truly interested in gearing collections toward mass consumers, and keeping prices below $20, then why on earth did they release a $30 hardcover of "Birthright" just two months ago?
They managed to bring the last volume of The Invisibles in at under $20 so I suspect the Birthright tpb might be this price too.


For that matter, if this is DC's new policy, then I expect that we'll see no more $25 original graphic novels with 96 pages of material inside. Y'know, like "JLA: Earth 2" or "Selina's Big Score" or others that were infinitely more forgettable.

Maybe we'll get really lucky and they'll keep doing these, but start charging a reasonable price!


I wanted a hardcover of "New Frontier" and a tpb of "Birthright." Those would seem like the rational formats to release in. But due to DC's "market research," I'm buying neither book.

You'll get your Birthright TPB eventually - though I wouldn't hold your breath if Suparman for All Seasons is anything to go by

[dancj]

Well, count me as someone who subscribes to the $20 threshold and probably would not have purchased New Frontier in one volume for $30 to $40. Not when the same amount of money would get me two other trades or three mangas. That's part of the Barnes & Noble factor that Darwin was probably refering to.

The only purchases I make over $20 are for archives.
This is something I really don't understand - the TPB containing the whole thing would have been $30 tops, but you'd rather pay $10 more to get it spread over two volumes????

[Expletive Deleted]

This is something I really don't understand - the TPB containing the whole thing would have been $30 tops, but you'd rather pay $10 more to get it spread over two volumes????That's presuming you know you're going to buy the whole thing, though.

I do sort of see where DC is coming from. If I'm just browsing through Barnes & Noble and see something that I've vaguely heard of that looks interesting, I'm more likely to drop fifteen or twenty dollars on a whim than thirty or more. That's the reason I grabbed THE GOON but held off on the LOCAS and PALOMAR hardcovers despite a certain level of interest. It's an artificial, probably unfair boundary, but there you go.

That said, I don't see why they don't do both. A single volume (preferably in Absolute Edition format) for the direct market, two reasonably priced trades for the mass market.

[outlander78]

$20 Canadian is my cut-off point. There are series I swore I'd never buy (recent example: Batman Murderer/Fugitive) but did when the price was right. I tried the first volume, liked it, and then bought the other three. I hardly ever buy trades over this price line, as it makes the frustration of poor stories (there are many) even greater.

[T Rath]

I have no problem with the two tpbs, and I think New Frontier was head and shoulds above any other series - regular or mini - in 2004. It makes sense to split into $20 volumes. Let's say I'm a parent unfamiliar with comics noodling around B&N. I see New Frontier, with it's kid-friendly art, bright colors and tons of heroes, I might pick it up for the young 'uns. At $20 or less. If it's one book at $30 or more, I'm probably going to put it back on the shelf.

BUT, as a comic fan, I really want a single edition, with all the bells and whistles, oversized like JLA/AVENGERS. Since there's very little that needs to be done to the artwork, except any additional material, I'm at a loss why DC hasn't announced this for the direct market sometime in 2006. Unless they think fans will buy the single issues, the tpbs AND the hardcover. Which, considering the price of the single issues, just ain't going to happen.

Oh well, I still have the singles. And it's still a great story.

[Arune Singh]

Dar onced showed me his unseen art for the series.

DAAAAAAAAAAMN.

He gave me one piece- a profile of EVERY DCU character in the series- and it's stuff like that piece that I wish people saw. Amazing.

[RustyShackleford]

This is something I really don't understand - the TPB containing the whole thing would have been $30 tops, but you'd rather pay $10 more to get it spread over two volumes????

Well, I'm not 100 percent sure that's what the cost would be, or should be. Putting myself in DC's shoes, I couldn't price a complete volume at $30, which is a pretty sizeable chunk of savings for the TPB buyer. Yeah, I understand that the trades are usually a savings from the singles, but we're talking in most cases the equivalent of one or two $2.25 - $2.50 books. A $30 complete volume of NF would be a discount of nearly two $7 issues off the singles. That'd be nice,:D but I can't sit here and say that I'd automatically expect that to be the price.

I'd probably price it at the awkward (but still a good savings) price of $35. Given that whole tangent, I'd say these Volumes 1 and 2 should be $17.95 each.

I think the real nightmare collection(s) for DC will be the 32-issue Seven Soldiers of Victory.

[GUTB]

Some of you seem disturbingly unaware that New Frontier, well...sucks.

01/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #1 (of 6) -- 30,527
02/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #2 (of 6) -- 27,318
03/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #3 (of 6) -- 27,671
05/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #4 (of 6) -- 26,441
07/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #5 (of 6) -- 25,333
09/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #6 (of 6) -- 25,410

That sells less that Birds of Prey, Green Arrow, Adam frikin' Strange and Firestorm! Yes, more people were interested in reading FIRESTORM than this comic! And do you know why? See if you can guess.

[cactusmaac]

Some of you seem disturbingly unaware that New Frontier, well...sucks.

01/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #1 (of 6) -- 30,527
02/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #2 (of 6) -- 27,318
03/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #3 (of 6) -- 27,671
05/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #4 (of 6) -- 26,441
07/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #5 (of 6) -- 25,333
09/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #6 (of 6) -- 25,410

That sells less that Birds of Prey, Green Arrow, Adam frikin' Strange and Firestorm! Yes, more people were interested in reading FIRESTORM than this comic! And do you know why? See if you can guess.

Well yeah, given that each issue cost about $4.50 MORE than any of those other titles, it's not surprising sales were lower.

More from Cooke.

http://www.millarworld.net/index.php?showtopic=43323&pid=978461&st=60&#


As for a sequel to New Frontier, I would say that is unlikely. Never say never, but is unlikely.
I may return to characters from NF now and then for smaller stories. For example, my issue of Solo has a bizarre love Triangle story featuring King Faraday in 50s Cuba.

If a sequel ever does occur, I think people will see that what they thought was Kennedy-worship was simply a very positve nexus on which to end. I do have a second story mapped out in my head, and it would be a dilly, but for now it's just mental gymnastics.

And I've always said, Robinson and Smith nailed it with Golden Age, I've had my shot, and the next era of DC's history is probably better suited to a mad genius like Grant M.

Imagine Grant cutting loose with the era that spawned Doom Patrol, Metamorpho, Hawkman, Eclipso, Creeper,Hawk & Dove, Animal Man, Lenny Bruce, Ken Kesey, Martin Luther King, Mao, Nixon, The Stones, etc. That's the book I'd like to read.

[Brian Cronin]

Some of you seem disturbingly unaware that New Frontier, well...sucks.

01/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #1 (of 6) -- 30,527
02/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #2 (of 6) -- 27,318
03/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #3 (of 6) -- 27,671
05/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #4 (of 6) -- 26,441
07/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #5 (of 6) -- 25,333
09/ 2004: DC: The New Frontier #6 (of 6) -- 25,410

That sells less that Birds of Prey, Green Arrow, Adam frikin' Strange and Firestorm! Yes, more people were interested in reading FIRESTORM than this comic! And do you know why? See if you can guess.

GUTB, the fact that you posted that really makes me think you're just messing with people.

You know, just saying crazy crap to rile people up.

Because no one honestly would make the argument you just made seriously.

No one.

So my only other recourse is to assume that you posted that just to rile people up.

It's the only logical recourse.

On the SLIGHTEST chance that you were actually serious (which I do not believe to be the case, I think you're just messing around), I'll demonstrate some math.

30,000 copies of a $2.50 comic = $75,000

25,000 of a $6.95 comic = $173,750

Yes, there is some additional ad revenues from the $2.50 books, but nothing to make up almost $100,000 more in sales.

-Brian

[Brian Cronin]

In addition, I cannot believe this has escaped me mentioning it, and I apologize for not saying it sooner.

Thank you, cactusmaac, for posing the question to Darwyn.

It was a great question that many people were curious about, even perhaps NON whiny (or was it bitching? I forget) fanboys? ;)

-Brian

[GUTB]

Today's Mystery Challenge: MATH!

Riddle me this Young Challenger -- if a 22 page comic sells for $2.50, and a 66 page comic sells for $7, which of the two generates the most income per page?

Of course the real reason why Frontier sucks because the art flat-out stinks.

[Ian J.N.]

I think DC marketing is mistaken in treating New Frontier like they would a series of books. Books are much more densely packed, and each installment is (usually) a complete story in itself. It's these emotionally satisfying aspects that bring the reader back to buy Book 2.

A better analogy, I think, is dvds. Basically, DC is releasing half a movie, which is.. absurd.

I can understand the rationale of releasing a lower priced graphic novel, but I find that when I impulse buy I opt for the graphic novel with a complete story, even if it is a bit more expensive. Also, if there's two graphic novels containing a story and one (lower priced overall) graphic novel containing a story, I opt for the latter. Surely story completeness should factor into their decisions.

[dancj]

$20 Canadian is my cut-off point. There are series I swore I'd never buy (recent example: Batman Murderer/Fugitive) but did when the price was right. I tried the first volume, liked it, and then bought the other three. I hardly ever buy trades over this price line, as it makes the frustration of poor stories (there are many) even greater.
Fair point - I guess if there's a possibility of you not buying the whole thing then there's a reason to split the story. I still hate it though :(

Dan

(don't reply to GUTB - it's what he wants,
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and relax)

[dancj]

A better analogy, I think, is dvds. Basically, DC is releasing half a movie, which is.. absurd.
Yet still there's Kill Bill and the 2nd and 3rd Matrix films

[cactusmaac]

Today's Mystery Challenge: MATH!

Riddle me this Young Challenger -- if a 22 page comic sells for $2.50, and a 66 page comic sells for $7, which of the two generates the most income per page?

What does that matter?

Printing costs are typically only 15% of the total cover price.


Of course the real reason why Frontier sucks because the art flat-out stinks.

Stop talking out of your rectum.

[The Batman]

while i'd love to see an Absolute Edition or whatever of New Frontier i can understand why DC would choose to release the series as two seperate trades, which i think shows some confidence in the material since they seem to expect people to like the first part enough that they'll buy the second.

also given that i bought this series as the issues came out, or 1/6th of the story at a time, i don't see it as too odd that people might buy it 1/2 a story at a time. then again i doubt that i'm DC's target audience for this trade.

[Brian Cronin]

Today's Mystery Challenge: MATH!

Riddle me this Young Challenger -- if a 22 page comic sells for $2.50, and a 66 page comic sells for $7, which of the two generates the most income per page?

Of course the real reason why Frontier sucks because the art flat-out stinks.

Your point, as cactusmaac mentioned, is off.

But I thank you for the response, it was actually quite civil of a response.

Thanks again!

-Brian

[SirChasm]

Totally off topic here but I wandered into my fine comic shop today and saw a little plastic bag with all 6 issues of new frontier in it for the sum of £9.99! I was wanting to wait for the trade but this seemed to good an offer to pass up! :D

[Brian Cronin]

Totally off topic here but I wandered into my fine comic shop today and saw a little plastic bag with all 6 issues of new frontier in it for the sum of £9.99! I was wanting to wait for the trade but this seemed to good an offer to pass up! :D

Awesome!

-Brian

[Ian J.N.]

Yet still there's Kill Bill and the 2nd and 3rd Matrix films
Each of the above examples stands on its own as an emotionally satisfying movie (for reasons of length, plot, tone, etc). I'd argue that this is because it was a creative decision to split the story and not so much a marketing one.

To clarify, my analogy is dvds--ie. releasing a theatrical movie in two dvd installments.

[outlander78]

By the way - I too wonder why the 48 new pages are being left out. That sounds like a strong draw.

[SirChasm]

Awesome!

-Brian


indeed! :D just finished reading it too - impressive!

[buytradestuff]

I really love this title. I am a Cooke convert. Let me know if they announce a 1-book HC and I'll trade away my floppies and buy the HC. I think the book deserves a better print format than the way it was released.

[Maestro]

I'd settle for the whole thing in one trade. Don't really like DC's hardcovers except the Absolutes.

[Loren]

I just learned that DC is going to collect "Identity Crisis" as a hardcover this September, and a tpb isn't due until 2006. As this will be a 280 page collection, I don't see how they could possibly price a hardcover at $20 or less. "Dark Knight Strikes Again" was of similar length, and it was $30.

So if IC can get a one-volume treatment, priced well above the supposed $20 mark, DC's excuses for "New Frontier" are ringing a lot more hollow.

Loren

[mckracken]

Im tempted to buy 1-6 at 9.99

Might skip that for a hardover. Is there a date set yet?
Are the 48+ pages (is that just sketches or story pages) going in for sure?

[K'Nort]

Im tempted to buy 1-6 at 9.99

Might skip that for a hardover. Is there a date set yet?
Are the 48+ pages (is that just sketches or story pages) going in for sure?

9.99 total? If you haven't read it yet, that's worth it. Would't make investing in a hardcover later on unreasonable.

[Loren]

Look what's getting an Absolute Edition, according to the new solicits:

ABSOLUTE BATMAN: HUSH OVERSIZED HC

Written by Jeph Loeb
Art and cover by Jim Lee & Scott Williams

...This slipcased edition includes BATMAN #608-619 as well as the the 2-page origin of Batman (originally seen only on dccomics.com) and the special story from Wizard: The Comics Magazine...

This Absolute edition includes an all-new cover by Lee & Williams, a Jim Lee Sketchbook, and issue-by-issue commentary by the creative team!
Advance-solicited; on sale September 7 • Oversized, slipcased hardcover • 372 pg, FC, $49.99 US

That's about the length that a "New Frontier" HC would be. And since "Hush" has been out in smaller hardcover and tpb formats for a while now, this renews my hope that we'll eventually see Cooke's book get the same treatment.

Loren

[Lex]

Absolute New Frontier would so kick ass!

[The Xenos]

I second that. If garbage, though nice looking garbage, like Hush can get the Absolute Edition, so can New Fronteir. Wait.. they're putting Hush alongside Watchmen and LoEG?

-Xenos

[Grant]

That's about the length that a "New Frontier" HC would be. And since "Hush" has been out in smaller hardcover and tpb formats for a while now, this renews my hope that we'll eventually see Cooke's book get the same treatment.

Loren

Probably wouldn't be for a while seeing how the second trade came out last week. I'm willing to shell out 50 bucks for if they do it. Cooke's art really merits the oversize treatment.

[stealthwise]

I second that. If garbage, though nice looking garbage, like Hush can get the Absolute Edition, so can New Fronteir. Wait.. they're putting Hush alongside Watchmen and LoEG?

-Xenos

So does this Absolute Edition explain all of the plotholes of Hush?