When will the Xbooks keep and develop strong alien male characters?

[Valeria Kementari]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/261187-198142-fiz.jpg
Skrull X-Man!!

Why was FIZ the only male alien allowed to join the ranks of the X-Men? Why is it that aliens get ridiculed when joining the X-Men and are considered no more than pets (case in point Lockheed)? Must Fiz and the rest of Cadre K return to the ranks of the X-Men? Why hasn't Adam X, the third Summers Brother, joined the X-Men already?

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/adamxxtreme1.jpg
I'm alien and I am a mutant!

When will Lockheed be granted X-Man status? Why does he keep being referred to as Kitty's Pet when he is far more intelligent and dangerous than most X-Men?

http://www.acmecomics.com/files/lockheed.jpg
He can defeats foes no X-Man can

Why aren't there more male alien X-Men?

[Cancerous]

Okay, i'm all for parody but this is just ridiculous and makes light of people's genuine concerns. Please lock this thread.

[Valeria Kementari]

Oky, i'm all for pardoy but this is just ridiculous and makes light of people's genuine concerns. Please lock this thread.

why are you against alien X-Men? did Fiz do something to you? Why can't we have him in the X-Men again? :confused: And what about Adam X? People love him

[Cancerous]

why are you against alien X-Men? did Fiz do something to you? Why can't we have him in the X-Men again? :confused: And what about Adam X? People love him
Now you're just being an ass.

[DevilishRogue]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/261187-198142-fiz.jpg
Skrull X-Man!!

Why was FIZ the only male alien allowed to join the ranks of the X-Men? Why is it that aliens get ridiculed when joining the X-Men and are considered no more than pets (case in point Lockheed)? Must Fiz and the rest of Cadre K return to the ranks of the X-Men? Why hasn't Adam X, the third Summers Brother, joined the X-Men already?

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/adamxxtreme1.jpg
I'm alien and I am a mutant!

When will Lockheed be granted X-Man status? Why does he keep being referred to as Kitty's Pet when he is far more intelligent and dangerous than most X-Men?

http://www.acmecomics.com/files/lockheed.jpg
He can defeats foes no X-Man can

Why aren't there more male alien X-Men?

How about Warlock? Though I can see him being considered more a synthetic life form.

[Valeria Kementari]

How about Warlocke? Though I can see him being considered more a synthetic life form

he's not an X-Man, he's a New Mutant. Should he be granted X-Man status?

[Cayman]

http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/a_3d/arkon.gif

Marvel couldn't handle the raw, unbridled, sweaty, alien masculinity of Arkon and have shied away from trying.

[Valeria Kementari]

http://www.marveldirectory.com/pictures/individuals/a_3d/arkon.gif

Marvel couldn't handle the raw, unbridled, sweaty, alien masculinity of Arkon and have shied away from trying.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37452/1459714-storm16_super.jpg

should he marry Storm in order to become an X-Man?

[Daniel Mengsk]

Now you're just being an ass.

Wow. Calm down Cancerous, we are talking about fictional characters here.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Valeria Kementari, don't make any more threads like these.

[Filthy Mutie]

Okay, i'm all for parody but this is just ridiculous and makes light of people's genuine concerns. Please lock this thread.
While I agree there are too many of these, the alien spin makes it a little more light-hearted than the others.


Now you're just being an ass.

Easy, tiger. You're very alone here.

[Skaddix]

Warlock is around and Lockheed is coming to ASM.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Easy, tiger. You're very alone here.

He isn't, I agree with him.

But having said that, talk about comics, not each other.

[Valeria Kementari]

Valeria Kementari, don't make any more threads like these.

If people are concerned there aren't enough male characters of a certain ethnicity I can be concerned there aren't enough Asian or Alien characters as well, specially considering they have had even less consideration than some other ethnicities, don't I?

But if that is your wish I'll just confine my concerns to these

[Cancerous]

While I agree there are too many of these, the alien spin makes it a little more light-hearted than the others.



Easy, tiger. You're very alone here.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

[Valeria Kementari]

Why hasn't anyone from the Imperial Guard joined the X-Men yet?

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/imperialguard2.jpg

Shouldn't there be a Shi'ar Liaison? I vote for Starbolt

[Rasputin9977]

What the X-Men really need are hispanic members. They have Sunspot, Rictor and Tag. That's it. Can the real conspiracy be that all the x-writers are from Arizona? Hmmm....

[Daniel Mengsk]

He isn't, I agree with him.


Yeah but isn't personal insults of this kind against Cronin's old rules?

I mean, Valeria and I 'insult' each other all the time but then again we are friends and do it in a friendly manner - calling somebody an 'ass' and for somebody to agree with that sounds kind of harsh to me, but that's just my humble opinion.

[Valeria Kementari]

What the X-Men really need are hispanic members. They have Sunspot, Rictor and Tag. That's it. Can the real conspiracy be that all the x-writers are from Arizona? Hmmm....

Tag is dead and Rictor depowered :frown:

[Ben D]

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/b/b3/Korvus_Head.JPG

[Seresecros]

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Ignore him.

[Cayman]

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37452/1459714-storm16_super.jpg

should he marry Storm in order to become an X-Man?

Yes, for the ongoing Storm and her Brother-Husbands, starring Black Panther, Arkon, Dracula, and Zombie Forge.

[Valeria Kementari]

Yes, for the ongoing Storm and her Brother-Husbands, starring Black Panther, Arkon, Dracula, and Zombie Forge.

don't forget Thor and Namor, they have to be there. She needs an entire harem

[Prodigy55]

Yes, for the ongoing Storm and her Brother-Husbands, starring Black Panther, Arkon, Dracula, and Zombie Forge.

Is that a Marvel/TLC crossover?

[Valeria Kementari]

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/b/b3/Korvus_Head.JPG

Starjammers are not X-Men, should they be? Since he broke up with R'Chel once he found out she was a dinosaur I doubt he'll want to join the X-Men :frown:

[Cancerous]

Ignore him.
Got it. Consider him ignored.

[Ben D]

Starjammers are not X-Men, should they be? Since he broke up with R'Chel once he found out she was a dinosaur I doubt he'll want to join the X-Men :frown:

I want him to join the x-men. I'm one of the few who thinks that RAFOSE is one of the best x-men sci-fi stories ever.

[Valeria Kementari]

I want him to join the x-men. I'm one of the few who thinks that RAFOSE is one of the best x-men sci-fi stories ever.

you should be banned for that :tongue:

[Ben D]

you should be banned for that :tongue:

besides the vulan parts of course. It was also one of the only comic book wars that felt like a war, at least in the start.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Yeah but isn't personal insults of this kind against Cronin's old rules?

Against the rules, but I can sympathise when people are being deliberately baited on race topics.

[Cayman]

Preach it, Warpath!

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt217/daxamike/40394_5-1.jpg

[Valeria Kementari]

Preach it, Warpath!

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt217/daxamike/40394_5-1.jpg

that is why the aliens should be grounded on earth and joining the X-Men. Why has no one offered Starfox a spot?

http://www.hatterentertainment.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/starfox_storytelling.jpg

[Filthy Mutie]

What the hell is that supposed to mean?
I shot at the insult without looking to see if someone was really being an ass (through all of the recent board activity). That was all.


EDIT: My full post got lost in my many browser tabs. To be honest, I'm really not into the X-Men mingling with aliens at all. I make an exception for Adam-X, the X-Treme, because he was created to be a part of the Summers mythos--the son of Katherine Summers and Emperor D'Ken, while Christopher Summers was trying to get the rebellion going. That, and he's !@#$in' AWESOME, BROS.

I make an exception for Warlock, too, but I'm not sure why.

On the whole, X-Men, to me, is about human/mutant relations and the things that come out of those stories--not Limbo and M'Kraan Cyrtsals.

[fortyseven]

I want Korvus to join the X-Men.

[ButterRum]

I'm sorry, but this thread is completely offensive if this is comparison to the black male and Asian male character thread. The reason why diversity seems to be a problem in comics is because of the unfortunate experiences that minorities have faced in society. Aliens obviously aren't real beings in the real life and, therefore, have not experienced the oppression and discrimination that blacks and Asians have faced in the United States.

[Valeria Kementari]

I'm sorry, but this thread is completely offensive if this is comparison to the black male and Asian male character thread. The reason why diversity seems to be a problem in comics is because of the unfortunate experiences that minorities have faced in society. Aliens obviously aren't real beings in the real life and, therefore, have not experienced the oppression and discrimination that blacks and Asians have faced in the United States.

have you scoured the entire universe and can say for certain there is absolutely no intelligent life in another planet other than Earth?

[Daniel Mengsk]

I'm sorry, but this thread is completely offensive if this is comparison to the black male and Asian male character thread. The reason why diversity seems to be a problem in comics is because of the unfortunate experiences that minorities have faced in society. Aliens obviously aren't real beings in the real life and, therefore, have not experienced the oppression and discrimination that blacks and Asians have faced in the United States.

One could argue that European (male) characters are being discriminated on in the comic book too.

[Valeria Kementari]

One could argue that European (male) characters are being discriminated on in the comic book too.

why hasn't Le Peregrine, a known French Mutant, joined the X-Men yet?

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/thumb/f/f4/Peregrine.jpg/406px-Peregrine.jpg

[Count Yoda]

I'm sorry, but this thread is completely offensive if this is comparison to the black male and Asian male character thread. The reason why diversity seems to be a problem in comics is because of the unfortunate experiences that minorities have faced in society. Aliens obviously aren't real beings in the real life and, therefore, have not experienced the oppression and discrimination that blacks and Asians have faced in the United States.

You have never heard of Drake's Equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation) then, eh?

[ButterRum]

have you scoured the entire universe and can say for certain there is absolutely no intelligent life in another planet other than Earth?

Don't be ridiculous. In the comics, aliens are a fantasy and are not supposed to be real people compared to Earth. My main point is that comparing real life discrimination of aliens to real life "races" is just...wrong.

Aliens are supposed to be another "race." I actually don't believe in race, and, yes, there are different ethnicities, but collectively we are human, even though people have separated ethnicites into different races and treat them as if they're from another planet. That's why it's called racism. This is why that comparison is offensive, among other things I can think of.

The problem with a lack of diversity in comics is not a problem of the characters' themselves. The character's aren't real and can't really get hurt. Who can get hurt are the readers and the hurtful ethnic and cultural misrepresentations in comics (and the media because this isn't a problem with only comics).

The argument isn't the question of intelligent life on other planets. You could go there, but it's a distraction point from my main argument, which seems people don't want to touch.

[Cancerous]

have you scoured the entire universe and can say for certain there is absolutely no intelligent life in another planet other than Earth?
You're being facetious. You know exactly why you started this thread.

[Rasputin9977]

why hasn't Le Peregrine, a known French Mutant, joined the X-Men yet?

http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel//universe3zx/images/thumb/f/f4/Peregrine.jpg/406px-Peregrine.jpg
Cause he is French.

[Aguja]

I want Korvus to join the X-Men.

I would have been all for this if he had been handled better. The whole thing with Rachel was so icky. But it would be nice to see a Shi'ar working with the X-Men.

[Valeria Kementari]

You're being facetious. You know exactly why you started this thread.

I started this thread because if people can complaint there aren't enough X-Men of a certain ethnicity I can complaint there aren't enough Alien X-Men. I was always very fond of Fiz and Lockheed for example (not to mention the GREAT Cerise) and I do find it unfair for them to be ostracised and not characterized properly.

[ButterRum]

You're being facetious. You know exactly why you started this thread.

Open discussions about race should be healthy, in my opinion, but unfortunately some people are just stupid about it. The discussions can be healthy to see others' viewpoints on diversity. It shouldn't be an immature conversation where people nitpick the little things that don't count. This is the reason why there should be more conversations about racism - some people just don't get it and become defensive by the people who are offended by the misrepresentations of race. It's too bad people get so defensive with the word "diversity." No wonder there is so much racism in the world.

Anyways, I am getting sucked into an immature argument that probably won't get anywhere, so I should just bail before everything becomes a circular motion of shooting the same arguments against each other.

[Cancerous]

I started this thread because if people can complaint there aren't enough X-Men of a certain ethnicity I can complaint there aren't enough Alien X-Men. I was always very fond of Fiz and Lockheed for example (not to mention the GREAT Cerise) and I do find it unfair for them to be ostracised and not characterized properly.
http://potshot.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/sisko-facepalm.jpg

[Cancerous]

Open discussions about race should be healthy, in my opinion, but unfortunately some people are just stupid about it. The discussions can be healthy to see others' viewpoints on diversity. It shouldn't be an immature conversation where people nitpick the little things that don't count. This is the reason why there should be more conversations about racism - some people just don't get it and become defensive by the people who are offended by the misrepresentations of race. It's too bad people get so defensive with the word "diversity." No wonder there is so much racism in the world.

Anyways, I am getting sucked into an immature argument that probably won't get anywhere, so I should just bail before everything becomes a circular motion of shooting the same arguments against each other.
Very true Aimee. They deflect substantial arguments with immature humor because they'd rather not not confront the problem or talk about it. Notice Valeria had nothing to contribute to the other thread but made this thread in response. Even the moderator knows he'ske is full of it. This is a bait thread. Nothing more. Nothing less. Lets them have their laughs.

[ButterRum]

Very true Aimee. They deflect substantial arguments with immature humor because they'd rather not not confront the problem or talk about it. Notice Valeria had nothing to contribute to the other thread but made this thread in response. Even the moderator knows he'ske is full of it. This is a bait thread. Nothing more. Nothing less. Lets them have their laughs.

Yeah, this thread she be closed.

[Valeria Kementari]

Very true Aimee. They deflect substantial arguments with immature humor because they'd rather not not confront the problem or talk about it. Notice Valeria had nothing to contribute to the other thread but made this thread in response. Even the moderator knows he'ske is full of it. This is a bait thread. Nothing more. Nothing less. Lets them have their laughs.


Yeah, this thread she be closed.

then leave the thread if you are not a fan of Alien characters, I doubt somebody will miss you

[Ms.Lockheed]

I support this thread

Go Lockheed and Cerise!

[Valeria Kementari]

i support this thread

Go Lockheed and Cerise!

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9vl9wUK2w1qbok6ko1_500.jpg

[Ms.Lockheed]

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9vl9wUK2w1qbok6ko1_500.jpg
where the hell is that from??!! I've been trying to find that for a loong time!

[Valeria Kementari]

where the hell is that from??!! I've been trying to find that for a loong time!

New X-Men: Academy X # 1-6

[Ms.Lockheed]

New X-Men: Academy X # 1-6
thanks!!
Once Lockheed is accepted as an official X men this two ladies should Follow

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/Ms_lockheed/Kitty%20and%20Lockheed/Lockheed/wifetobe_issue40.jpg

and
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/Ms_lockheed/Kitty%20and%20Lockheed/Lockheed/lockpuff-1.jpg

dragon love triangle!