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jaxstraww
03-07-2011, 06:26 PM
Anyone know of a resource that lists upcoming 1st appearances of a character? Looking for a comprehensive list for all publishers.
Jeff Brady
03-07-2011, 07:07 PM
Time machines do not exist.
jaxstraww
03-07-2011, 07:16 PM
I would think when they write up the descriptions of the upcoming issues on say Comixology they would say "making their Marve//DC/Independent premier XYZ character. Publishers I'm sure know when a new character is about to hit a book. Just trying to find a resource that says here is next weeks shipping listed included are the following introductory appearances of xyz.
Ronald Bryan
03-07-2011, 07:43 PM
But why? So you can buy the first appearance of the next Adam X? Hoping that you can get that rare first issue starring the next Stilt-Man?
dupont2005
03-07-2011, 07:46 PM
There probably is a resource out there for exactly that exclusive to Marvel and DC, but finding a resource that can even list every independent publisher, let alone upcoming titles and the contents of those titles, is very unlikely.
jaxstraww
03-07-2011, 08:42 PM
But why? So you can buy the first appearance of the next Adam X? Hoping that you can get that rare first issue starring the next Stilt-Man?
Yes. Seems to be some hostility in the replies?
jaxstraww
03-07-2011, 08:43 PM
There probably is a resource out there for exactly that exclusive to Marvel and DC, but finding a resource that can even list every independent publisher, let alone upcoming titles and the contents of those titles, is very unlikely.
I'd be happy with just the main two for now.
Jeff Brady
03-07-2011, 08:46 PM
Yes. Seems to be some hostility in the replies?
Because comics as speculative collecting is a stupid idea, and actually hostile to the comics industry.
Michael P
03-07-2011, 08:47 PM
Yes. Seems to be some hostility in the replies?
Not hostility, just mockery.
Jeremi
03-08-2011, 05:03 AM
But why? So you can buy the first appearance of the next Adam X? Hoping that you can get that rare first issue starring the next Stilt-Man?
That boat has already sailed, if we count Lady Stilt-Man that is. :biggrin:
SUPERECWFAN1
03-08-2011, 06:43 AM
But why? So you can buy the first appearance of the next Adam X? Hoping that you can get that rare first issue starring the next Stilt-Man?
Adam X was the shit ...he was Adam X the X-Treme baby. EXTREME ! :tongue:
You can't be serious with that reply. So your questioning the "why" I should collect books? How about if all the "speculators" stopped buying book?. Would you enjoy $7.00 a book because of the loss of books sold figures dropped? Its not hostile to the industry if they do what they want and last I checked its sell books.
Uhhh ya do realize that back in the early 90's when speculators were at the peak , it did drop off once they left ? Because it popped like a housing bubble and it did hurt the industry. In fact go and look up a sales chart and once the bubble popped it left only those in it for the love of comics and collecting em.
Today the best speculators will do is come in for a hot death issue. Or the Obama issue. But thats few and far between and its said that sales for the death of the Human Torch was kinda...lax. Maybe even the speculators are burnt out now.
In the end if ya look at ICV2 theres not much left of the 90's speculator craze.
And yes as Ronald Byran posted...it did hurt the industry a lot.
Michael P
03-08-2011, 06:48 AM
You can't be serious with that reply.
He's serious.
And don't call him Shirley.
Sabrina_Fried
03-08-2011, 07:48 AM
Have you tried Diamond's Previews magazine? If a forthcoming comic is going to debut a new character worthy of being advertised, the publisher is probably going to mention it in the solicitation copy.
Darrell D.
03-08-2011, 07:55 AM
Here ya go!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=listing+of+first+appearances+of+comic+book+char acters
Was that so hard?
Ronald Bryan
03-08-2011, 11:16 AM
Here ya go!
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=listing+of+first+appearances+of+comic+book+char acters
Was that so hard?
But he doesn't want just first appearances. He wants first appearances that haven't happened yet. All on one site.
jaxstraww
03-08-2011, 12:01 PM
Adam X was the shit ...he was Adam X the X-Treme baby. EXTREME ! :tongue:
Uhhh ya do realize that back in the early 90's when speculators were at the peak , it did drop off once they left ? Because it popped like a housing bubble and it did hurt the industry. In fact go and look up a sales chart and once the bubble popped it left only those in it for the love of comics and collecting em.
Today the best speculators will do is come in for a hot death issue. Or the Obama issue. But thats few and far between and its said that sales for the death of the Human Torch was kinda...lax. Maybe even the speculators are burnt out now.
In the end if ya look at ICV2 theres not much left of the 90's speculator craze.
And yes as Ronald Byran posted...it did hurt the industry a lot.
just so I am clear. speculators in the 90's ramped up issues sold probably making the publishers money since that happens when you sell books. to eventually leave causing a decline in sales causing sales to drop? am I following? because if thats what your saying the speculators did then they did you and the publishers a favor. how is having collectors leave the hobby a good thing? so the purists can enjoy decling sales causing necessary price increases. I will check out the diamond information since that is the only sensible reply. the purists......ha. I love this forum. when they left our inflated sales bubble popped. I blame you speculator. ha...simply to easy.
thwhtGuardian
03-08-2011, 12:22 PM
I think what he was saying that most of the speculators already left because the bubble burst, so if those few who remained decided to leave today it wouldn't have nearly the same effect as it did in the early 90's.
And the bit about speculative collecting today not being worth the investment is an absolute truth. Due to the way comics are produced and the habits of modern readers more copies are likely to survive of any given issue which depreciates the value. The reason why Action Comics #1 sells for so much isn't just because it's the first issue of Superman but rather it's because so few copies exist today because the paper it was printed on was low quality and it was seen as a disposable commodity by consumers at the time meaning that after reading it more often than not it would be given to a friend, colored in or simply thrown out. People just didn't save their comics so now there are few copies which increases the value, but the same isn't true today; comics are printed on better paper so they are more durable and likely to survive longer and they are no longer considered a disposable commodity as most fans save their copies. These practices combined mean that more copies are likely to survive into the future and thus your saved comic will most likely never be worth much more than what you paid for it originally.
SUPERECWFAN1
03-08-2011, 12:35 PM
just so I am clear. speculators in the 90's ramped up issues sold probably making the publishers money since that happens when you sell books. to eventually leave causing a decline in sales causing sales to drop? am I following? because if thats what your saying the speculators did then they did you and the publishers a favor..
They pretty much made the publishers use cheap tactics to appeal and sell to them. There was no favors really at the end because these tactics pisses away a lot of long term fans not in it to buy the latest #1 cronimum cover of Ghost Rider. These long time fans wanted good comics .
The speculators who came in believing they were in the next stock market and gonna cash in big basically inflated things to a huge degree with Image and Valiant. Then watches as the bubble burst on em.
By caving to speculators long time publishers saw older readers say FUCK YOU and walk as well. The industry was left in worse shape after the speculator craze.
how is having collectors leave the hobby a good thing? so the purists can enjoy decling sales causing necessary price increases. I will check out the diamond information since that is the only sensible reply. the purists......ha. I love this forum. when they left our inflated sales bubble popped. I blame you speculator. ha...simply to easy
You can think its silly all you want. But it hurt the industry a lot then. You may think this forum is crazy and lying. But a lot us were there collecting and we saw the effects after the crash of the speculators and numbers take a big hit.
I'm glad people are smart enough to realize todays comics are worthless and not thinking of investments though.
I think what he was saying that most of the speculators already left because the bubble burst, so if those few who remained decided to leave today it wouldn't have nearly the same effect as it did in the early 90's.
Which is true. My main debate here is .,..the speculator market inflated sales to a huge level and companies basically tried appealing to them. It pissed off a lot of older fans and once the bubble burst it hurt the industry a lot.
Ari Gold
03-08-2011, 12:38 PM
They pretty much made the publishers use cheap tactics to appeal and sell to them. There was no favors really at the end because these tactics pisses away a lot of long term fans not in it to buy the latest #1 cronimum cover of Ghost Rider. These long time fans wanted good comics.
But aren't the companies still using these "cheap tactics" to move books?
Variant covers, new #1's, new #200's/600's/.1's, Event-after-Event-after-Event, etc.
SUPERECWFAN1
03-08-2011, 12:45 PM
But aren't the companies still using these "cheap tactics" to move books?
Variant covers, new #1's, new #200's/600's/.1's, Event-after-Event-after-Event, etc.
Yes its true they use some of them. Then it was over drive. Marvel was publishing 125+ comics a month. Valiant was catching fire as was Image.
Event crossovers have been around since the 1980's with Secret Wars and Crisis. The companies use it to stir the small fish bowl thats left. I think Bill Jemas said one good thing. He called it a small fanbase of a couple hundred thousand and companies are always trying to lure them.
And these events do it.
As far as variant covers , .1's and all...I don't see it doin as big. Maybe the speculators know now todays comics are worthless...
thwhtGuardian
03-08-2011, 12:45 PM
But aren't the companies still using these "cheap tactics" to move books?
Variant covers, new #1's, new #200's/600's/.1's, Event-after-Event-after-Event, etc.
No where near to the extant that they once were though, and I wouldn't lump the events into the same group as renumbering and variant covers. I don't really care for most events, but they are still a valid form of story telling and some of them are even interesting, where as the sole purpose of renumbering and variant covers is to attract collectors.
Reptisaurus!
03-08-2011, 02:46 PM
Anyone know of a resource that lists upcoming 1st appearances of a character? Looking for a comprehensive list for all publishers.
No. And I'm fairly sure there isn't one. Sorry. You could start one.
jaxstraww
03-08-2011, 02:53 PM
No. And I'm fairly sure there isn't one. Sorry. You could start one.
I spoke with Diamond today and the rep was pretty sure that Marvel has a listing of upcoming first appearances and I should start by publisher and not look for a comprehensive list.
thwhtGuardian
03-08-2011, 03:08 PM
I don't where the hostility is coming from, no one made any personal remarks about you, the closest anyone came to that was someone said collecting on speculation was a stupid idea...now,unless you are the physical manifestation of that idea than I don't see what got you offended enough to call everyone here a basement dweller.
And yes, they still do variant covers and re-numberings but as was pointed out by SuperE and I they aren't done in any where near the numbers that they were done around the time of the boom...it's doesn't even compare. And crossovers and events, though sometimes written poorly don't fall into the same category as cheap gimmicks as unlike renumbers and variant covers events and crossovers are capable of producing great stories so I don't think Kylun blows anything to shit and I don't think he was trying to either.
To sum, just take a chill. No one here has attacked you so your hostility is really unwarranted.
thespianphryne
03-08-2011, 03:27 PM
Keep it civil, ladies.
Cyberorchidectomies may be less unpleasant than the real thing, but are far uglier.
SUPERECWFAN1
03-08-2011, 08:18 PM
Is it me or did we lose some posts here ? I could have sworn there was something posted ? Is my internet clock hidin posts again ?
Conn Seanery
03-08-2011, 08:30 PM
It's just you. You're all perfectly well-behaved Community members who get along like peas in a pod.
SUPERECWFAN1
03-08-2011, 08:51 PM
It's just you. You're all perfectly well-behaved Community members who get along like peas in a pod.
But I could have swor- (gets pulled away !)
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